Greg Oden’s career R.I.P. 😢 As a Blazer fan, I remember how excited I was that we got him and thought at the time that he was the right choice over KD. There was no doubt about his star potential. And, in hindsight, if the Blazers had KD instead during those early years, they wouldn’t have been in a position to draft Dame in 2012.
Bruh. your production quality, statistical references and supporting factors... even the little extra facts about certin player's kids playing together at the next level. PLEASE BRO may God give you the respect you deserve, and the subs you are GOING TO have. Thank you so much for all you do.
A funny story about Bargnani (I am Italian). He seemed lazy on the court but to be there he worked extremely hard in the previous years. One time he was recovering from an injury and was doing a certain type of "walk" around the court and a staff member said to him "Ok keep doing this until I tell you to stop". The staff member suddenly had to go home for a problem and forgot about Bargnani. Bargnani kept doing that for 4 hours until they closed the gym 😂 Hard worker for sure.
love these videos! great take on Yao too. I remember a camp coach told me Yao made 28 3's in a row pre-draft sessions. truly amazing on and off the field
Me too, even tho I'm not a fan of The Timberwolves. It's just sad when someone who could've easily been in GOAT-discussion gets injured so badly he can't hoop as much as he could anymore...
I became a NBA fan with playing 2K12. It's weird to think Yao and LeBron were drafted only 1 year apart. Since for me, Yao is something "ancient, mystical and old", yet LeBron is still here, "fresh". It's hard to understand and really relate to players and time before yours. As I really appreciate the greats of yesteryears and I'm glad to watch these kinds of vids which chronicle their achievements, I will never get to know them as well as I know LeBron, Kyrie, Steph etc. It's useless and nigh impossible to compare players between eras, unless you've experienced said players passionately first hand.
Agreed to all of this! LeBron lasting this long at this high of a level is literally insane I wish I was alive for the MJ era, I feel like he had more of an impact on people s lives on a day to day basis then LeBron did, MJ was a athletic global icon, fashion icon, and overall highly thought of influencer
Rose is my favorite one. From where he came from, to the dedication, to the youngest MVP, carry the Bulls to the playoffs, to the unfortunate injuries, that 3 point buzzer beater, to the dreads prime Rose coming out one more time to play his best game ever after everything he had been through in life, to his generosity for the youth, and never once getting in trouble. It really should be a movie.
This was a good video it seems like from 2000-2009 was the years they wanted PF and Centers I don't know much but it would be interesting to learn you should make a video of the worst draft class of all time cause outside of Giannis I believe 2013 had Nobody's but anyways keep up the good work and continue making great videos 💯💯💯💯
Brown had other issues, but he did have a lot of injuries, especially after his first few years. It seemed like he had several season ending injuries in Washington and Los Angeles. Then, years later, he signed with the Warriors in the middle of the year, looked like he was starting to find his groove and be a decent defender, and tore a muscle in his chest -- out for the rest of the year.
Correction on the I Promise school: LBJ did not spend a single penny on it. It was built from his foundation and tuition is paid through taxes because it is a public school
D Rose for me too! He is who got me into basketball I had a pair of the D roses from the commercial he made using one of ASAP rocky's songs, I dont remember the name of them but I treated them like gold
No one ever remembers K love and Kyrie going down in 2015. No one was beating them full strength. For every action there's a reaction. Like KD going to Gs in 17
I'm sorry, while it is beyond Oden's control the ability to manage a full season of games and stay healthy does play a factor into an professional career. I don't think it is unfair to call him a bust, just a tragic one: After all, the best ability is availability
People forget way too often how awesome, brutal and fun Dwight Howard was in his prime. If he could have sustained this level, we would be talking today about one of the greatest Centers to ever play the game.
@@wobbafett2464 And yet, he still dominated. Could he have been even better with a more refined post game? Sure. But what's the deal with criticizing greats for what they couldn't do, when they were able to do other things better than everybody else?
@@martinbuhrer3893 you can't be an ALL TIME PLAYER without a RUDIMENTARY/FUNDAMENTAL UNDERSTANDING of the game, he got by on mostly pure athletic gifts with a low basketball IQ on the offensive end, he deserved what happened to him getting blackballed for having a bad attitude
@@wobbafett2464 Why so agitated and extreme, dude? So he was coasting and getting by mostly on being a freak athlete. He still was great in his prime. Is all I'm saying.
Kenyon Martin was the last #1 pick of the previous millenium, not the 1st of the new one. That would be Kwame Brown. About him, some analysts think that it's not that he was missing that "it" factor, it's more because of Michael Jordan's temper, that you quickly mentionned: his toxicity was a good fit for players who stayed in the Bulls, but but was the worst for Brown and prevented him from reaching his full potential while he was still healthy, according to them. As for Greg Oden: yes, he's a bust. He didn't deliver as expected from his place in the draft and that's all what makes a bust. But it was not his fault, he has nothing to reproach to himself. It's not like Sam Bowie, 2nd pick in 1984, who hid his injuries, making the Blazers draft him before Jordan. Anyway, good series. I like that you talk about what they did after their career. It's not often that we see that part of their lives and how they used their experience and renown when they left the court.
Derrick rose was amazing before he got hurt. I saw him live in a game against lob city and he was on " NBA jam" turbo mode compared to everybody else. Damn that dude was fast.
I really like Dwight Howard. He was really good and he always seemed like he was having fun playing the game. That's the kind of dude I wanted to see succeed to prove you don't have to be a jerk like MJ.
My personal opinion is if Greg had regular knee surgery instead if the micro-fracture surgery it might been different outcome on his career? Penny Hardaway and Chris Webber were never the same players after having it done
Lets stop reiterating this narrative that Lebron/Cavs only came back from 3-1 because Green and Bogut didnt play. Hardly anyone ever mentions how the Warriors won a Finals because Love and Irving were injured and they only won because the Cavs were a 1 man show that finals. We're so use to seeking reasons to devaluate what this man has accomplished.
A quick note... Michael Jordan didn't play for the Wizards at the same time he was GM, as that would have been a huge violation of both NBA and players union rules. When he decided to come back to the court and play, he had to both resign as GM and sell his ownership stake in the team. 🙂
Wenmbyama going kill once he get the NBA weight behind him... After all he gone from a elite in the league he played for he is also showing that now.... What you gonna think with Poppavich coaching coaching him and Duncan helping him. This gonna be a disaster in the Western conference... 🏀
I feel bad for Greg Oden minding his own business nowadays and people keeps on labeling him a bust when he is not. He was a not the all-star/superstar player type but he was good at protecting the rim even through injuries.
Your take is why the NBA became a less tougher league too much high drafted players couldn't hang in for the long hall because of mostly injuries and basically just couldn't handle the level of play .
Istg Greg oden is not a bust man it sucks that you used him as the thumbnail😔 he would’ve actually been super good if his body wasn’t breaking down on him
I wouldn't say injury comes down to being unlucky. If you take care of your body, specifically based around a sport, you should be good. I don't know if you need LeBron levels of care, but that proves my point.
This guy....very rich people start foundations and charities to funnel money through them. It's one of the ways that billionaires avoid taxes and create generational wealth. Lebron starting one so early on was a genius move. He didn't do it out of the goodness of his heart.
I don't necessarily disagree that Dwight might belong on the top 75 list... but if you're advocating that, you also have to identify which player you think should be kicked off the list to accommodate Dwight's presence.
Who is that kid with the gray sweater and green baseball cap? He has decent moves maybe a role player on a established team possibly a starter on an medium tier team in the voice of Mel Kiper
Listen, the league picks electric players No1 overall, and these are the players with the playstyles that get injured the most. LeBron is the exception. Thats why whether its a freak of nature, or a flashy guard, these guys get more injured than the rest.
What Shaq did wuz meant 2 b funny....not racist. I don't think u could find 2 dozen black kids in tha U.S. that didn't luv Kung Fu flix. Wu Tang Clan....duh! 🙄🙄🙄
True but Cleveland would of never made it to the finals without lebron lol lebron went back to the finals again with a bum squad so Kyrie definitely needed lebron
jordan wouldn't have won without pippen, durant can't win title without curry, curry can't win title without klay and draymond and many more. everyone needs teammates so yeah if it wasn't for them they can't win a title.
@@LockdownK there’s no reason, I’m sure whenever it’s something someone agrees with, politics is fine. As soon as it’s something they disagree with, it’s a problem.
Well Yao is just a first pick I don't remember him as a headache in his entire stint in the league it's just a hype Tell him who is the current champ in Asia He dominate it.😅
@@LockdownKbargnani right player in the wrong place at the wrong time Switch him with ayton and the suns are champions not Milwaukee Or I'm an Italian simp full of bs
He may not be the biggest, but he's certainly not far, and he's in the conversation. It's unfortunate, and it wasn't his fault, but it's true. He's even said it himself.
I used to love Bogut, being a tall kid starting out in basketball made me dream of getting drafted in the first round... Until I saw his Twitter and the amount of shit he would post... We got into an argument over Australia's vaccine mandates, he made some smartass comments and then blocked me. 10/10 person.
Greg Oden’s career R.I.P. 😢 As a Blazer fan, I remember how excited I was that we got him and thought at the time that he was the right choice over KD. There was no doubt about his star potential. And, in hindsight, if the Blazers had KD instead during those early years, they wouldn’t have been in a position to draft Dame in 2012.
Agreeed^
I agree about Greg Oden, but I don't think it's fair to label professional Athetes a "BUST" if it is caused by an injury it's out of their control.
@@danielfrancis2627 just cause the PICK is a bust, doesn't mean the player is a bust.
@@KatarHero72 I agree with your point of view.
I remember at the time many analysts were saying Durant's skinny body would make him injury prone and because of that Oden was a better choice.
Bruh. your production quality, statistical references and supporting factors... even the little extra facts about certin player's kids playing together at the next level. PLEASE BRO may God give you the respect you deserve, and the subs you are GOING TO have. Thank you so much for all you do.
Preciate you chief!
A funny story about Bargnani (I am Italian). He seemed lazy on the court but to be there he worked extremely hard in the previous years. One time he was recovering from an injury and was doing a certain type of "walk" around the court and a staff member said to him "Ok keep doing this until I tell you to stop". The staff member suddenly had to go home for a problem and forgot about Bargnani. Bargnani kept doing that for 4 hours until they closed the gym 😂
Hard worker for sure.
Thats actually pretty crazy haha, did not expect that
love these videos! great take on Yao too. I remember a camp coach told me Yao made 28 3's in a row pre-draft sessions. truly amazing on and off the field
NGL, I cried when D Rose put up 50 in Minnesota 😂
I think that day was the closest I'm ever came to crying, I really felt that fr fr
Bro same and I bought the jersey. My only rose jersey is from the wolves lol
Same
Me too, even tho I'm not a fan of The Timberwolves. It's just sad when someone who could've easily been in GOAT-discussion gets injured so badly he can't hoop as much as he could anymore...
I watched that game while I was having my lunch, and my food was mixed with my tears. lol
I became a NBA fan with playing 2K12. It's weird to think Yao and LeBron were drafted only 1 year apart. Since for me, Yao is something "ancient, mystical and old", yet LeBron is still here, "fresh".
It's hard to understand and really relate to players and time before yours. As I really appreciate the greats of yesteryears and I'm glad to watch these kinds of vids which chronicle their achievements, I will never get to know them as well as I know LeBron, Kyrie, Steph etc.
It's useless and nigh impossible to compare players between eras, unless you've experienced said players passionately first hand.
Agreed to all of this!
LeBron lasting this long at this high of a level is literally insane
I wish I was alive for the MJ era, I feel like he had more of an impact on people s lives on a day to day basis then LeBron did, MJ was a athletic global icon, fashion icon, and overall highly thought of influencer
Fun fact lebron tried to declare for the draft in 2002 but it was denied due to him being 17 at that time
Great video as always, man. Nice mix of throwback and modern bits.
Preciate it chief!
You really put together an enjoyably interesting video. Good writing, great editing. I subscribed.
I appreciate that! Happy you liked the video
Continue the grind my guy. Day on supporter right here!
You the real goat, good looks my guy!
Deserves more subs! Underrated!
Preciate you fam!
Rose is my favorite one. From where he came from, to the dedication, to the youngest MVP, carry the Bulls to the playoffs, to the unfortunate injuries, that 3 point buzzer beater, to the dreads prime Rose coming out one more time to play his best game ever after everything he had been through in life, to his generosity for the youth, and never once getting in trouble. It really should be a movie.
Congrats mans! Your analysis was so human and putring the spotlight on such nice observations .
20:15 i didn't know that the origin of all Oden's injuries was due to this... his career ruined by all his injuries will always make me sad
This was a good video it seems like from 2000-2009 was the years they wanted PF and Centers I don't know much but it would be interesting to learn you should make a video of the worst draft class of all time cause outside of Giannis I believe 2013 had Nobody's but anyways keep up the good work and continue making great videos 💯💯💯💯
I appreciate it!
ANd its funny you say that I was actually thinking about making a video about that!
Back then people were still used to old way of thinking. That being a dominant big man wins rings
^^
Your commentary is excellent bro and your videos are excellent. Keep up the good work!
Preciate you Justin!
That statement " grinded his butt off" on Dwight Howard sounds differently now. IYKYK.
This era was crazy. This is the last few years when players played ball and went hard. Now I turn on the NBA and I fell like I'm watching CNN.
No cap I feel that also
love the video bro !
Glad you liked it!
w earl fan
Would the spoiler be injuries? Besides Lebron and Kwame almost every other #1 pick succumbed to them
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Brown had other issues, but he did have a lot of injuries, especially after his first few years. It seemed like he had several season ending injuries in Washington and Los Angeles. Then, years later, he signed with the Warriors in the middle of the year, looked like he was starting to find his groove and be a decent defender, and tore a muscle in his chest -- out for the rest of the year.
Correction on the I Promise school: LBJ did not spend a single penny on it. It was built from his foundation and tuition is paid through taxes because it is a public school
Great video, I think d rose is the one that sticks with me the most.
D Rose for me too! He is who got me into basketball I had a pair of the D roses from the commercial he made using one of ASAP rocky's songs, I dont remember the name of them but I treated them like gold
No one ever remembers K love and Kyrie going down in 2015. No one was beating them full strength. For every action there's a reaction. Like KD going to Gs in 17
As always, great content !
Thank you!
just imagine the mid to end 2010s and early 2020s still as a top 10 player in the league so crazy
There's someone on that list who lived up to the hype since his high school days and still plays at a high level in year 20 ;)
Honesty Andrew Bogut's tweets aren't bad at all to be honest
I'm sorry, while it is beyond Oden's control the ability to manage a full season of games and stay healthy does play a factor into an professional career. I don't think it is unfair to call him a bust, just a tragic one: After all, the best ability is availability
People forget way too often how awesome, brutal and fun Dwight Howard was in his prime. If he could have sustained this level, we would be talking today about one of the greatest Centers to ever play the game.
meh, no post moves
@@wobbafett2464 And yet, he still dominated. Could he have been even better with a more refined post game? Sure. But what's the deal with criticizing greats for what they couldn't do, when they were able to do other things better than everybody else?
@@martinbuhrer3893 you can't be an ALL TIME PLAYER without a RUDIMENTARY/FUNDAMENTAL UNDERSTANDING of the game, he got by on mostly pure athletic gifts with a low basketball IQ on the offensive end, he deserved what happened to him getting blackballed for having a bad attitude
@@wobbafett2464 Why so agitated and extreme, dude? So he was coasting and getting by mostly on being a freak athlete. He still was great in his prime. Is all I'm saying.
@@martinbuhrer3893 agitated and extreme? jfknc this generation is so frickin' soft, you're taking my comments as violence are u, sweetie? smfknh
Kenyon Martin was the last #1 pick of the previous millenium, not the 1st of the new one. That would be Kwame Brown.
About him, some analysts think that it's not that he was missing that "it" factor, it's more because of Michael Jordan's temper, that you quickly mentionned: his toxicity was a good fit for players who stayed in the Bulls, but but was the worst for Brown and prevented him from reaching his full potential while he was still healthy, according to them.
As for Greg Oden: yes, he's a bust. He didn't deliver as expected from his place in the draft and that's all what makes a bust. But it was not his fault, he has nothing to reproach to himself. It's not like Sam Bowie, 2nd pick in 1984, who hid his injuries, making the Blazers draft him before Jordan.
Anyway, good series. I like that you talk about what they did after their career. It's not often that we see that part of their lives and how they used their experience and renown when they left the court.
Cincy Kenyon Martin was unreal. If you don’t know much about those late 90s-early 00s Cincy teams you should look them up
Shaq would be furious hearing dwight being called superman 😂😂
Bron was 18 playing ball with grown experienced men😨
Derrick rose was amazing before he got hurt. I saw him live in a game against lob city and he was on " NBA jam" turbo mode compared to everybody else. Damn that dude was fast.
You had to be there to see it, truly a moment in history
I forgot how sorry was Kwame 😂😂😂
dannggg lol
I really like Dwight Howard. He was really good and he always seemed like he was having fun playing the game. That's the kind of dude I wanted to see succeed to prove you don't have to be a jerk like MJ.
Do the number one pick for each decade
Great video👍👍
Thank you again haha
My personal opinion is if Greg had regular knee surgery instead if the micro-fracture surgery it might been different outcome on his career? Penny Hardaway and Chris Webber were never the same players after having it done
One of the biggest what ifs!
Haven't they banned that micro fracture surgery because of what it did to players?
"Shaq's racist jokes?" 🤣
i find it so funny how the travelling king gets so much resepct for his game thats full of travelling hows that make him a super star
Like how your hair travelled so fast. Lol
wherever first drafts go, injuries will follow
Seems to be the trend of the 2000's
Yall try to discredit bron with kyrie shot like he didnt ball out to get it tied in the first place and stopped them from breaking the tie first
Lets stop reiterating this narrative that Lebron/Cavs only came back from 3-1 because Green and Bogut didnt play. Hardly anyone ever mentions how the Warriors won a Finals because Love and Irving were injured and they only won because the Cavs were a 1 man show that finals. We're so use to seeking reasons to devaluate what this man has accomplished.
But that's what happened lol
@@jbyrd87 But Golden State doesn't have that asterisk by their title and no one downplays that title run.
actually I've hear the "kyrie and love were injured" argument 10000000 more times than I've heard the green and bogut were injured@@Legotron
Legit though losing 3 games without Bogut means it hit the team alot.
Greg Oden wasnt really a bust just slowed down by injuries but when he played the man was good.
Yeah
Yao, was fun to watch when health
agreed!
A quick note... Michael Jordan didn't play for the Wizards at the same time he was GM, as that would have been a huge violation of both NBA and players union rules. When he decided to come back to the court and play, he had to both resign as GM and sell his ownership stake in the team. 🙂
Nice video 🎉
Thanks!
This is a good ass list, mostly were great even by #1 pick standards
ngl i waited for you to mention blake griffin as the father of lana's baby but i digress. Good overall video nonetheless big ups my guy
lolll I appreciate you g
Wenmbyama going kill once he get the NBA weight behind him... After all he gone from a elite in the league he played for he is also showing that now.... What you gonna think with Poppavich coaching coaching him and Duncan helping him. This gonna be a disaster in the Western conference... 🏀
The titles would’ve just been switched from 2015 and 2016 no question imo
Oden was the biggest What If's?
I feel bad for Greg Oden minding his own business nowadays and people keeps on labeling him a bust when he is not. He was a not the all-star/superstar player type but he was good at protecting the rim even through injuries.
Boy I completely forgot about that Toronto pick
Andrea was an interesting pick!
Your take is why the NBA became a less tougher league too much high drafted players couldn't hang in for the long hall because of mostly injuries and basically just couldn't handle the level of play .
Kenyon needs to be in the hof ❤...
Best RUclipsr ever
Appreciate it!
Look at Lesunshine, so inspirational
Istg Greg oden is not a bust man it sucks that you used him as the thumbnail😔 he would’ve actually been super good if his body wasn’t breaking down on him
I wouldn't say injury comes down to being unlucky. If you take care of your body, specifically based around a sport, you should be good. I don't know if you need LeBron levels of care, but that proves my point.
Bro Yao got drafted 1 year before Lebron? Thats fucking craaazzzyyy!
Literally insane right!
The bulls didn't throw away Derek they gave him time to recover from his injury he was in the final year of his contract when he was traded to NY.
The problem with Greg Oden's body was it was 60 years old when he got drafted.
0:24 the thing they all have in common is that they played in the NBA and all got drafted 1st overall I bet 😎
Keep it up
This guy....very rich people start foundations and charities to funnel money through them. It's one of the ways that billionaires avoid taxes and create generational wealth. Lebron starting one so early on was a genius move. He didn't do it out of the goodness of his heart.
1:22 K.Mart was Rookie of the year. He did not come in 2nd in that weak draft class
@jaykaynum5569
Mike Miller was the 2001 Rookie of the Year...
Like every video that involves Dwight, another reminder that his absence in the all-time 75 is an appalling choice that should be rectified.
Absolutely! No way Dame or AD should have made it over Dwight! He has 3 DPotY awards!!!
I don't necessarily disagree that Dwight might belong on the top 75 list... but if you're advocating that, you also have to identify which player you think should be kicked off the list to accommodate Dwight's presence.
@@Cyclonus12 easily Dame or AD should not have made it. I really think AD only made it because he is on the Lakers with LeBron.
@@Cyclonus12 I mean, no, I dont.
Who is that kid with the gray sweater and green baseball cap? He has decent moves maybe a role player on a established team possibly a starter on an medium tier team in the voice of Mel Kiper
what timestamp are you talking about?
Bargnani started his career too early. He would fit the playstyle today as a decent 6th man
Listen, the league picks electric players No1 overall, and these are the players with the playstyles that get injured the most. LeBron is the exception. Thats why whether its a freak of nature, or a flashy guard, these guys get more injured than the rest.
Interesting point!
There was a college hoops game? And I missed it!?!
^
Sorry I forgot to comment love this video
Appreciate it!
Was there a guard taken #1 in the 00s? I'm posting this at 02 so I'm guessing
Do the 80s first then the 2010s
80's coming up
Why does Greg Oden back then look older than Lebron now at 39
What Shaq did wuz meant 2 b funny....not racist. I don't think u could find 2 dozen black kids in tha U.S. that didn't luv Kung Fu flix. Wu Tang Clan....duh! 🙄🙄🙄
"he was the NBA"
Jesus Christ loves you
Remember if NBA didn't required to draft 18+ players in the NBA Lebron would've played in the NBA at age 16.
Cleveland wouldn’t have won without kyrie
100%
No shit
True but Cleveland would of never made it to the finals without lebron lol lebron went back to the finals again with a bum squad so Kyrie definitely needed lebron
jordan wouldn't have won without pippen, durant can't win title without curry, curry can't win title without klay and draymond and many more. everyone needs teammates so yeah if it wasn't for them they can't win a title.
And Dallas won’t win with him.
anthony bennet. no doubt.
Its either 2015 or 2016, give and take
No D Rose 🌹 Slander will be tolerated
1st European? Europeans in America rn
Not a good idea to mix politics with sports
why is that?
@@LockdownK there’s no reason, I’m sure whenever it’s something someone agrees with, politics is fine. As soon as it’s something they disagree with, it’s a problem.
rose made me start playing ball
D rose deserve so much a ring
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Are you bust when your body fails you?
Yes. It's unfortunate, but true.
Well Yao is just a first pick
I don't remember him as a headache in his entire stint in the league it's just a hype
Tell him who is the current champ in Asia
He dominate it.😅
Bogut and Bargnani were great players. Injury bugs are just better..
you can say that twice
@@LockdownKbargnani right player in the wrong place at the wrong time
Switch him with ayton and the suns are champions not Milwaukee
Or I'm an Italian simp full of bs
lollllllllllll idk if bargnani would make an impact like that especially since he was not known to play great defense.
So what did they all have in common?
Warriors did not sign Howard sadly
Back to Taiwan he goes
It’s Tim Duncan Yeen getting shit off
Greg Oden is far, FAR from the biggest bust in NBA history.
He may not be the biggest, but he's certainly not far, and he's in the conversation. It's unfortunate, and it wasn't his fault, but it's true. He's even said it himself.
Ok now that's 🧢 on lebron
He wasn't the one to beat when he arrived.
It was kobe until 2011/2012
Chicago wouldn't have won multiple title w/out Scottie
I used to love Bogut, being a tall kid starting out in basketball made me dream of getting drafted in the first round... Until I saw his Twitter and the amount of shit he would post... We got into an argument over Australia's vaccine mandates, he made some smartass comments and then blocked me. 10/10 person.
Bulls nations drose
Idk Cleveland wouldn’t even see the finales without lebron
LeBron a "political activist" lol. He's still on the first page of Malcolm's book
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