The Safe and Refillable Butane Canister You Have Been Waiting For, Finally!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Refilling a Butane Canister - What can go wrong? You can refill the Campingmoon TC-35 Refillable Butane Canister safely.
Refillable Butane Canister: CAMPINGMOON Empty Refillable Canister for Backpacking Camping EN417 Lindal Valve 110g TC-35: amzn.to/3SLnYBk
Alternatives:
CAMPINGMOON Empty Refillable Canister for Backpacking Camping EN417 Lindal Valve Silver 35g TC-28: amzn.to/3U5uraw
CAMPINGMOON Empty Refillable Fuel Canister Gas Cylinder EN417 Lindal Valve w/Refill Adapter Propane 1/13-lb Mini Tank TC-28/Z15: amzn.to/49gHnP2
Stove:
Bulin Camping Gas Stove Burner 3500W/3800W/5800W/6800W/18000W Adjustable Ultralight Backpacking Stove Windproof Camp Portable Propane Stove for Camping Hiking Backpack Outdoor: amzn.to/40Eqg6i
Propane Tank:
Flame King 1/4-lb Empty Refillable Propane Cylinder Tank - Reusable & Transportable - Safe and Legal Refill Option - UL1769 Listed Valve: amzn.to/40F1GC3
Flame King Refillable Propane Cylinder and Refill Kit: amzn.to/3ET9CGv
Butane/Propane Adapters:
CAMPINGMOON 3 Outlet Camping Stove Adapter for EN417 Lindal Valve Canister Device Z31: amzn.to/3UPjrwt
Mr. Heater F276133 Bulk Adapter with Acme Nut x 1"-20 Male Fitting: amzn.to/3AbqVR6
CAMPINGMOON Camping Grill Gas Stove Adapter(Safety stand),Input: Butane Canister, Output: EN417 Lindal Valve Z10: amzn.to/3KuDQDz
CAMPINGMOON Camping Grill Propane Gas Stove Adapter, Input: EN417 Lindal Valve Canister, Output: Propane Gas Stove Z20: amzn.to/3nCsHrb
CAMPINGMOON Camping Gas Stove Adapter Convert EN417 Lindal Valve to Butane Gas Stove Z13, Z13/Z16: amzn.to/3U3cXKd
Butane Refill Adapter Isobutane Fuel Canister Isobutane Canister Butane Propane adapter with Exhaust Air Pressure Button / Saver Saves More Money/Great for jetboil fuel Canister EN417 Lindal Valve Canister Shifter / Backpacking Camping Stove Adapter: amzn.to/3KfiHfs
CAMPINGMOON 42.13-inch Multi-function Gas Hose for EN417 Lindal Valve Screw-on Type Canister and Device Z17: amzn.to/40Stgvo
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One amazing thing about this: Filling from the disposable butane cylinder: It works! I just got one of these and struggled to fill it through the adapter/valve thing I already had. The manual says you can just push the disposable cylinder probe into the refillable cylinder valve... (how many products have claimed this before?!!??) and it worked instantly! I could hear the butane flowing in there, there wasn't any leakage I could see, or enough to care about. I got the 35 gr into a cold cylinder easily. I have been fooling around with things like this for YEARS, basically b/c I buy the tall disposable Butane cans by the case and it's so much cheaper, and also it's sitting around. Frankly by this time a number of camp stoves that work from the disposable tall cylinders (I don't have a name for them. They're all from Korea, can we say "Korean Cylinders"? "Iwatani type"? ) that I don't NEED to go this path any more, but some of the miniature camping type burners are so cute, little Titanium things! And of course they have accumulated. I find there are situations where you want a little stove, but just for a few minutes! So I would say these little machined Butane bottles are a dream product. Now what do I do with all the stuff I already accumulated?
We are pleased that you enjoy this butane tank. I noticed that as well with the refill capability. I found that those butane refills work well with this tank in addition to using an adapter with the butane stove tank that you are talking about.
Awesome idea, they need to make titanium ultralight versions of this.
That would be nice.
use a Ethanol burner 😊
Now that would be expensive!! The weight savings wouldn't be worth it!!
@@markweiss2307yea it would! 100%, people pay insane sums for the rare MSR Titanium liquid fuel bottles.
I have reused my canisters many many many many times without ever having any problems...the satisfaction of not needing to buy more crap for me outweighs the benefit of a heavier and more expensive thing....that refillable canister is way too heavy vs its benefit of being more durable. Iv been using the same small iso can for 3 seasons and its totally fine...when it shows signs of wear on the threads ect its extremely easy and cheap to replace + comes full.
Interesting point. Stay safe and thank you for your comments. I totally understand your point.
I believe the issue is not the threads, so much as water getting in the canister, causing it to rust and weaken its structure, leading to a rupture.
@@Mat-kr1nf How would the canister hold pressured gas if water could get inside?
@@NathanHassallmy only believe would be moisture maybe dropped it in the water by accident maybe your food topped over maybe a drink you had fallen. There could be a number of instances or cases where you could possibly have some liquid fallen, my skepticism was pretty high with this as well myself but thinking about it more and more to me out ways to have something that's reliable and constantly refillable without the need of it possibly exploding on me because the canister itself isn't refillable even the 1 lb propane tanks aren't technically refillable but I've seen my friends refill them countless times. There are newer versions now where you can refill them because they're built that way they are slightly more expensive but I believe it's more as if you could put it in the form of a headlamp, would you rather have a rechargeable headlamp or flashlight or a headlamp flashlight that took batteries and if it does take batteries do you want regular batteries that are disposable or do you want rechargeable batteries it's the same thing with the fuel canister. Do you want one the eventually will blow in your face or will be inoperable or do you want one that's quite literally indestructible and it's refillable and safe
@@gh0stEDC we have videos of the refillable propane tanks. We have used the smaller ones for butane, but that is total overkill. For us, it is nice to have a tank for butane with a high quality valve, threads, and aluminium. 30 years from now we will have it. 😀
Neat, but damn heavy for the gram counters. Butane is a VERY safe fuel and not a high pressure fuel like propane. The "non refillable" part, I get, but..... the only worry I would have refilling butane canisters is leakage. I think that can be solved with a simple cap with a sealing washer. Then over pressure with no relief would be your bugaboo. But if I recall correctly, butane is under 50 psi at 110F. Not a major safety issue as long as you don't over fill. Feel free to correct me, please.
@@mikemorgan5015 great comment and you are correct. We purchased this container and use it for long term use. We wanted a sturdy UNEF lindal valve.
We are not using it in our backpack journeys. For that we use the 350 g cooking butane canisters.
We keep this one handy for camping or car trips. The first time we filled this canister was from a lighter refill canister that was laying on the stairs at my kid’s apartment complex.
As of 7-17-2024 they are back in stock on Amazon. I have a few of the small 35g containers, but going on a cross country trip on the Harley, so its back just in time.
This is awesome. They go pretty quickly. Enjoy!
This caught my eye and i needed a look at it. Thanks
@@dadassery7777 you bet.
This tank as i understand it is for refilling butane and not propane. But what about blend? Like a (BUT)80-20 (PROP) blend?
Also love that this little tank has a little tripod mount on the bottom, i have an old tripod that has long legs and that is low to the ground, perfect for this i suppose, no tipping cans and rolling cans for me anymore!
Also, thanks for the informative and educational video. I feel like that many people disregard and do not approach gas tanks with the right safety/etiquette, which can lead to rather nasty incidents.
As long as the blend comes from a commercial source (from another butane tank with a small amount of propane), should be fine. I do not recommend that anybody ever try to formulate their own blends of butane and propane. Doing so is not safe. Thank you for watching the video, and we appreciate your comments and questions.
@@Linus007 I understand what you are getting at, but refilling a "single use" canister is no big deal. They are safe and they are made for repeated use, in the sense they can be screwed on and of many many times. Refilling such a canister a few times, to the same fill level, with same butane/propane mix is completely uneventful, even if its not recommended. Honestly, Id be much more worried filling straight propane (the big green one) in the little campingmoon canister, unless expressively permitted. Vapor pressure of propane is much higher than butane or the usual 70/30 butane/propane camping canister mixes.
@@clickbait4820 Thank you for your comments. We cannot vouch for your process, but we do understand other people’s refill needs. The product that we found fills a unique niche.
@kelvie855 I've done this routinely for years without issue. Refilling with pre blended Isopro type fuels and also blending my own using can style N-butane and standard 1lb LP bottles. Including with this TC-35 tank. When blending your own it's just a matter of measuring your fuel weights and not exceeding a 70%/30% (N-but/LP) ratio.
All season commercial fuel is typically 70% I-butane/equivalent and 30% LP. I-butane has a lower vapor pressure than N-butane and will perform better in colder weather. As such, DIY 70/30 N-butane/LP blend refills will not perform as well as an all season fuel, but is still highly effective at increasing performance and extending the useable temperature range over a 100% N-butane refill.
I do like the idea of a tripod mount on the bottom so I can place a gas lantern up in the air on a tripod. I don't like the idea of a 1 lb fuel canister to take backpacking.
The tripod option is nice. I do think they are a little heavy, but safe. They are selling smaller versions for lighter carry. Check out our other video on backpack, portable propane. We came up with a way to carry a very small propane tank with a butane backpack stove.
Here is that video. It took us months to get to this position to be able to use propane at butane pressures. We came up with a very special regulator. You might enjoy this video.
ruclips.net/video/zbTAU-F4vBY/видео.htmlsi=wjF0aT5AfjVphRQ1
Excellent info. Thanks
@@richardsierakowski1623 we are glad that it helped.
Please note as of 2/2/24 these cylinders are unavailable. Pity, i was going to buy one. Will just keep checking. I personally refill wit GASONE isobutane cylinders. They can be had for 2$ a can in bulk. Not a bad deal. I have 14 of the refillable flameking propane bottles. The 16.4 bottles. I dont like the little beer bottles. EDIT: note, i live off grid so i use propane heat often, propane grills and stoves. The butane appliances are much better for smaller applications. I use a single full size burner butane stove for the old Iron skillet for fish, and for cauldron cooking. I really want a refillable canister.
its a fly by night chinese company, what can you expect
@@Tism_me_timbersI expect one to be available when I want one. I bought a 5g by mistake, thinking it's the big one. Very well made. But too small.
They sold out really quickly. Months ago.
Perhaps there's an issue with the design, so they discontinued it.
Confirmed that they are not available. No issues on our end with the design. Perhaps it did not sell well due to capacity and weight?
Here are some alternatives:
Alternatives:
CAMPINGMOON Empty Refillable Canister for Backpacking Camping EN417 Lindal Valve Silver 35g TC-28: amzn.to/3U5uraw
CAMPINGMOON Empty Refillable Fuel Canister Gas Cylinder EN417 Lindal Valve w/Refill Adapter Propane 1/13-lb Mini Tank TC-28/Z15: amzn.to/49gHnP2
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CampingMoon is not a fly by night company.
They are no longer being produced because the cost of production for such a large single piece tank is simply too high and the profit margin is almost nonexistant. The small number that were available in the US through Amazon was just a single shipment Campingmoon shipped by my request. Those were the last they still had left in their warehouse after the last production run.
It's heavy yet it's made out off aluminum. Drop that thing and it'll crack unlike the one made of steel.
@@LeftOverMacNCheese Definitely be sure not to drop any gas canisters.
I wonder if they have a liner inside of it?
I’m new to this style of burners and fuels, if you use isobutane with a burner to cook, can you also use butane, and/Lp gas?
@@mommat4750 you can use butane and isobutane.
Yes but the reason for Propane is that Butane boils at -1 degree C compared to Propane at -42 C. Basically Butane stops working (stops being a gas) if the temps are below freezing. Propane is at 4 times the pressure of Butane so needs the thicker stronger heavier canisters.
Thank you for the video. Could you provide a link to the scale? Also, what should the canister weigh assuming it was filled with propane?
@@enriquepadilla8826 Yes of course. The scale we use: amzn.to/3yBUiyy
The thank holds 110 grams of butane. We recommend weighing it while it is empty. Write the weight on the tank. Add 110g to the tank weight and that is your limit. You can use the tare feature on the scale. We think it is easier to weigh without using the tare button. The reason is that the tank takes time to fill and your scale will turn off while you fill.
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@@Linus007 Thank you for providing the link and the note about weighing and writing the weight on the canister.
I understand the limit is 110g for isobutane but will this change if I were to fill it with propane? I carry a 5lb propane bottle on my travels and would be easier to refill with propane.
Thanks.
Aluminium. 😅😅😅
Good video, btw.
@@manumanbr thank you.
So, you transfer the contents of a throw-away butane canister to a heavier reusable canister -- and then throw away the first canister. I'm having a problem seeing the advantage.
@@Sirrehpotsirch you can fill it from much larger butane canisters. Another option is to fill it from portable stove canisters that are much less expensive. This type of heavier tank is used for the small camping stoves that screw directly on top of the butane canister . The final option is to consolidate multiple partially filled tank canisters into this one. The point is that this destination canister is much stronger.
Are you able to use the refillable butane canister and refill it with propane instead of butane?
The tank is sold as a refillable butane canister. Filling it with 100% propane would be extremely dangerous. I have filled this canister with commercially available butane sources, such as butane, isobutane, or the butane blends.
The pressure for propane is much higher than the pressure for butane. At room temperature butane is around 200 kPa. At room temperature propane is around 850 kPa.
In the video, a refillable propane tank from flame king was shown. you can purchase the small refillable propane tanks for less than the butane tank that was shown in the video. That is what I would recommend you look at for a potential solution. Listings of those products in the descriptions, so that you can easily find them if you want them.
Good to know! Thanks for the info!@@Linus007
I am so glad that you asked. Initially, I had the same questions, and that is why I put these videos out there. This allows all of you to learn from some of my experiences. This video might help show the size of the propane tank that you might be looking for in the future. ruclips.net/video/leCJq2G4qR8/видео.htmlsi=_oSWTgOzeLOPPCgx
Thanks for sharing the video. In my case, I'm trying to find a more practical and cost-effective way to carry fuel for backpacking. It seems like the solution is to get the refillable butane canister and buy the butane gas to refill it. If that is the way I should go do you know any way of getting larger amounts of butane (like a large propane tank) so I don't have to keep buying the gas canisters to refill it? Alternatively, I am wondering if it would work or be safe to use the small propane tanks instead with an adapter to a backpacking stove since propane is more widely available. What would you recommend?@@Linus007
@@jakeybry9983 ,
For now, we are using restaurant-type butane canisters that are very inexpensive. We transfer the butane to the refillable tank shown here or use a converter to go from the bayonet connection to the lindal valve connection.
We keep the small 50-gram (capacity) propane tanks on hand for cold weather and use a converter to get to the lindal valve connection. The extra 304 grams (fuel plus tank) is worth it in case the butane is not flowing.
If we can ever find a large tank of butane or a refilled in bulk, we will make a video. We searched for months and the only source here in North America seems to be welding shops.
Not refillable because we as the supplier want you to buy more of our product
Interesting but true.
The mayor issue is that the metap for the disposable ones is made cheaper for one use. Is not intended for the strees of pressure up and down several times. Eventually, if you refill them a couple of times, it could blow up. Definitelt they want you to keep buying the replacement. Ia like the pri ter cartridges. But at the same time. Be hones. How many ppl you see online that they should be even driving a car. Imagine those ppl trying to reaload it and leaking gas everywhere with kids and stuff....
Currently almost $60 on Amazon.... lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣
@@paulellsworth7679 wow! Either they are that popular or inflation as increased. Thank you for watching.
I wante to buy thing fir month but still not in stock at amazon like forever
It is taking a long time, but once you see them, pounce on it.
You can use one of the smaller refillable propane tanks:
Propane Tank:
Flame King 1/4-lb Empty Refillable Propane Cylinder Tank - Reusable & Transportable - Safe and Legal Refill Option - UL1769 Listed Valve: amzn.to/40F1GC3
Flame King Refillable Propane Cylinder and Refill Kit: amzn.to/3ET9CGv
@@Linus007 As of 7/17/24 they are back in stock on amazon. I already ordered a couple. Far from cheap.
I can't find it anywhere to buy
We have a link in the video description. Amazon has them in stock.
@@Linus007 the canister in not available, even on the original site of the product campingmoon. It's not available on ali express either.
@@hohoxa currently they have four in stock. a.co/d/gRIlbA0
@@Linus007interesting. They have 28 tanks but no 35. Wonder if they will come back in stock
@@ssing7113 I see the same thing. The 28 model is freely available, but not the 35 model. I suspect that they had a niche product that is no longer available. I have the 28 model tank and I can produce a video of it in a few weeks.
$35 and more EMPTY 🙄
Yeah
NO 😂
Thanks for your comment. It is refillable and made to last. This is why others may like it.
@@Linus007 🤡