Season 7 HermitCraft was peak Iskall. Him, Mumbo and Grian were such a good trio. I didn't care for Vault Hunters and wished he'd stuck with HermitCraft. Shame things shook out this way. I know this isn't much, but given Minecraft RUclipsrs, at least it wasn't minors.
@@lamarckleland5731 Nobody here has any say over who is on hermitcraft --- stop yelling "cancelled" at everything, 99% of the people closest to him, who have way way way more information about the accusations... "cancelled" him. Also READ the comments you're replying to... The comments are: "at least it wasn't minors." the other was: "its sad that the bare minimum is people not talking to minors, why is the bar so low"....nobody is accusing him of doing anything with a minor.
Since it’s the internet, I won’t be immediately jumping to conclusions. However, him not saying anything and leaving the server immediately is the biggest red flag for me.
tbf, that's exactly what a lawyer would reccomend him to do. It's outdated advice with how fast things spread on the internet if you don't have an immediate reaction, but most lawyers would rather you stay silent than make the case more complicated
@@broski7792 Yeah, I am a lawyer and that is what I recommend. It's not outdated, it's the best course of action. Also Iskall had already been talking about quitting Hermitcraft since at least two years, this was just the last straw for him.
@@lamarckleland5731 lol you're a lawyer, where? He's not even being accused of anything illegally civillian nor criminally... for being a lawyer how do you not know this. Hermitcraft, which is a brand, each individual members are brands, they literally make money with ads, and partnerships.... can CHOOSE not to associate with him without him being a criminal. Nobody anywhere has accused him a a crime so WHAT are you talking about "lawyer"? Was that word a type you're a iskall fan, spamming comments being a fan.
@@justmarcus33 I never mentioned anything you are talking about. Go calm down. I only said it has proven to be best not to haste to make any videos apologizing or trying to explain yourself when everybody is against you. Also, lol what are you even to judge anyone else?
@@lamarckleland5731 You literally said: "Yeah, I am a lawyer and that is what I recommend. It's not outdated, it's the best course of action. Also Iskall had already been talking about quitting Hermitcraft since at least two years, this was just the last straw for him." I'm saying nobody has mentioned legal issues... why are you confused? What does being a lawyer, not being a lawyer, remaining silent have to do with something completely unreleated to a legal issue? Why are you confused?
Fair point should’ve been clearer on that just weird that he chose to resign after allegations Following that other hermitcraft members such as mumbo and grian removed association with him too Thanks for the feedback
I feel like there is definitely more than just this. I agree it’s creepy and a power trip, but for everyone to drop him so quickly and turn their backs I just feel like there is more to it. I’m also wondering why stress left aswell. This entire situation just feels off and missing a piece.
I know him and stress were close so it’s not unlikely that she’s just taking time for herself and focusing on the important stuff, like her family. Plus it’s not unlikely that there is more to it that we don’t know yet but also it’s still understandable that the hermits and VH staff just wouldn’t want to be involved with him anymore, it’s a huge violation of trust and just plain gross. I really think it’s important to not compare this to other situations involving much more heinous stuff as that will devalue the impact that this has had on the people around it. If anything this should make people realize how truly awful those other situations are since this is still a fully valid and warranted response.
I remember back when he was doing in person vlogs with stress and the way he was talking and trying to hug her, the way she was reacting and the nervousness in her voice.. I said right there and then that he was some creep who pushes weird handsy boundaries with women and made them uncomfortable. We’ve all had weird guy friends with the “where’s my hug?!” Attitude though
They aren't a couple, iskall and stress have both just been doing MC content together a long time and technically he contributed to her getting on the HermitCraft server. Stress has also resigned along with Iskall as of right now.
I did notice that he just disappeared, but honestly after Mumbo took off half of hermitcraft season 9, I thought it was something similar. Not a big deal. I will say that I’m reminded of Joel’s interaction with him, and now I wonder if Joel knew something or if he was just being Joel. It’s hard to tell and we may never get an actual answer. Until more comes out, other than being creepy, I’m not sure he did more than most cheaters. Which sucks For the people who were involved, but do I think it was enough for him to be removed from the hermitcraft server? Yes. They have to protect the brand and impressionable kids. I think it’s responsible and respectful that he did so on his own. We will probably never see him on hermitcraft again but he could still make content. Sjin does. (Whole different can of worms there and just an example)
😂 I totally forgot about Mumbo being gone for a while during Season 9! It was quite a long season, and he came back later, so I had forgotten. It also has only happened once with Mumbo since I started watching his Hermitcraft videos at the beginning of Season 6. For Iskall, it's been a pattern! He wasn't around much at the end of Season 7, was gone most of Season 8, then he was there for a while at the beginning of Season 9, but later was gone for a long time, only coming back briefly or having a video talking about coming back, but he never really did. Then in Season 10, he had a lot of videos in the beginning, but now hasn't had an upload in 4 months, and the videos before that were 6 months ago! I'm honestly glad I don't have to wonder about when Iskall will come back anymore. The Joel's secret admirer thing was weird. At first it seemed like a funny bit, but later was excessive. I knew there were things that had felt off, thinking back to watching his Season 10 videos, but I hadn't thought of anything specific. The situation with Joel was probably one of those things. Things that felt over the top or made me uncomfortable. Although I was initially surprised by the news of his resignation, I wasn't shocked by the accusations, considering his behavior in Season 10.
The whole Joel thing was weird too, in hindsight. I thought it was adding to the whole bit of everyone being obsessed with Joel, but he was kinda over the top with it.
i've seen a few comments like mine so i'll keep it short i understand cheating on his partner is very bad, infidelity always will be. but that makes his partner a cheater, it's hard to paint yourself as a victim who fell prey to a predatory youtuber when you admit he was not actually invading your boundaries, by my opinion the fact it's stated he flirted, and she flirted back, means his advances were not only never shot down but reciprocated. sure you can say "she was in emotional distress and wasn't thinking straight at the time" but i really don't think that means we can act like Iskalls a monster, i'm not a "youtubers can do no wrong" person i've seen controversies time and time again, i'm just saying before treating this man with the same level of harshness you'd give a actual predator or pedophile, or in this case them calling him a "creep" which is just rude. we should treat him like a dude who cheated on his partner, it's still deserving of shame but calling the "other woman" a victim just makes no sense. for what it's worth he dun effed-up...but when we're living in a time when minecraft youtubers are being shot down like fish in a barrel for horrendous acts MAYBE just maybe we could direct some of that hate to actual creeps who try to take advantage of women not just online but IRL too. thanks that's all, if you read it i'm fine with criticism as long as you're not trying to call me a simp or something, i think we should actually evaluate this situation legitamately though before banishing him to the realm of dead channels.
I never said iskall was a monster He was making weird sexual advances to his moderators, which is creepy behaviour. Never said iskall was a predator or claimed he was one I was just reporting what was said online and why he was removed from the server
He was being extremely flirty and sexually inappropriate to his employees even though they were extremely uncomfortable with it. A lot of people were on Iskall's side saying, "Oh well they're adults they could have just said something and moved on." But the people who he was talking to were his employees. They couldn't say anything in fear of losing their jobs. He specifically targeted his employees knowing he had power over them. Absolutely disgusting if you ask me.
Yeah Ikr. I don’t wanna jump into conclusions but when I read the evidence on the google doc one of the alleged “victims” posted (I also read Mef’s testimony btw), the person was just rolling with it, If she was feeling uncomfortable in the first place the best plan of action is set barriers straight away, she was just changing the subject of conversation instead of saying “I’m not interested” or something to reject the flirtatious texts from iskall. I know there were other “victims” involved and allegedly some sexting too, but I assume it was fully consensual from the parties involved, if not this would have happened much sooner and it would probably be worse than it is now. Also the evidence is from some old ass texts from a year ago. IMO This got way more out of hand than I assumed, yeah it sucks that he cheated, yeah he is unprofessional and kind of a douche for doing that with his employees,but as far as we know no crime was committed so yeah.
@ There is defo stuff we haven’t seen given how the hermits and co have reacted. Hbomb spoke very strongly about it and Tango said he was very happy to do it when he removed an iskall head from one of his builds.
Iskall is now another case in the long list of why trying to date your fans never works. There is always a 99.99% chance it will blow up in your face. If you ever find yourself with a significant online following, try to seek relationships with people who don't know who you are.
@@felix8885jkl thanks for the feedback Felix, considering iskall left as soon as he was confronted his actions speak louder than words, if he was innocent why wouldn’t he come out saying hey I’m innocent and this isn’t true? If he makes a response I will talk about that as well however if he wasn’t guilty why would hermitcraft completely try to disassociate with him, have close friends turn on him and other people come forward about his patterns of behaviour? I said iskall is guilty of the current allegations based on the doc I linked below which provides evidence
Its more than one side. More than one person has come out, granted most of them want to stay anon. But honestly seeing all the hermits react. I kinda trust their judgement on this.
Yea I agree what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent I really hope iskalls side comes out soon whether he’s guilty or not
@@NotParallax That's exactly why you shouldn't say he is guilty. We don't have his side of the story. In these kinds of situations, a lawyer would always warn you to stay silent instead of inmediately releasing a statement, response or apology. He will eventually give a response. I'm clearly not claiming he is innocent, but from a legal standpoint you can't condemn him of anything yet just for the content
People like you are really exaggerating this. There’s no need for that cliche “exposed RUclipsr” thumbnail with “CREEP” written over his eyes. He was just a bit flirty, that’s all we know. And if he was being too flirty, the people he was doing this to should have asked him to stop. If they did, it would be strange of them to have not mentioned it. If he actually did cheat on someone, that’s a different story.
I dare you to walk up to your creepy friend and tell them to stop harassing you. I guarantee they'll keep at it regardless of what you say. I can't imagine victim blaming anyone regardless of how severe the actions were. People like you make it hard for real victims to be believed because you think a simple "Stop it" will make someone leave you alone
@@ShortManRob That's not an accurate summary of this guy's take. More like "Saying something doesn't always work or help." Which is a way more reasonable take. There are plenty of people with zero respect for boundaries or that get really hellbent on whatever it is they want.
It's completely relative on the situation whether or not an attempt at doing something would change the outcome of the situation. Because of this, I'd say it's always worth it to try and persist at it for a time. Have a long talk with the weirdo and see if that works as well, bc you could attempt to plant seeds of good in 'em. The correct answer is somewhere in the middle of rob and liku's statements
I still think this is blown out of proportion. Like all that should’ve been said is stop Iskall instead of expecting him to read thoughts through the internet but maybe I just don understand it
I can see it both ways... For the information we get and have it looks out of proportion.. But mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls deleting stuff makes me think otherwise.. Esp mumbo as they are good friends and most season played together close... so there is more to it then they tell us and for us to guess..
Based on Tango’s reaction, where he removed an iskall head from his build and said “happy to have done that”, whatever he did is worse than what we know.
I agree with you honestly, the drama part come from the fact that he his well know making any bad thing blow out of proportion. Look even if I don't agree with the whole cheating stuff, it not something uncommon, plus we don't know really know the current state of his private life. Lot of relationship turn cold and in a lot of case that also a reason why someone look around for either a new partner or just for adult need. Doesn't make it okay to do it, it doesn't excuse the action in a committed relationship but not all relationship work. Everyone change and everyone get different need. Relationship that last a lifetime are rare. Just it would be better to break up or discuss thing with you partner before looking around while keeping the relationship... Maybe he been a bit creepy about some of the stuff he said but at the same time it seem like he was flirting around, what an adult can do, if he didn't force himself and think he had something with someone... Is it really that bad ? Honestly if the person was into the flirting part that could been perfectly okay and nobody seem to have commented saying they weren't interesting from the little bit of conversation we have... We said victim but victim of what exactly ? Getting flirt on ? If that the extend of the thing he did, he doesn't deserve having his hard work destroyed. My overall issue with the drama is that the only bad thing I see here is him cheating on someone, but this blow out of proportion and make the person he flirt with "Victim" of "Creepy comment" which is... flirting, between... 2 adult. As long nothing else than flirting happen which soo far is the Copy paste conversation we see on every video. We didn't see anything about the "Victim" asking him to stop and him continuing or making "REALLY creepy comment" like... it pretty tamed, it not like he said anything "wild" in that copy pasted conversation either. So honestly, idk why people try to make something has tame as that and turn him into some kind of monster. We lack context but the RUclips drama train already hit, he might have been remove simply because they don't want to associate themselves with the drama and some people have a really strong opinion about cheating. When you are a public figure, anything can get out of proportion for the sake of pity internet point. People will go up to create fake drama and destroyed someone life and\or reputation for the sake of attention.
I think the hermits remaining mostly silent and just trying to distance themselves and Hermitcraft him him as much as possible is the right move. They don't won't to attract any more attention from this then necessary. They want to clear the air some by saying no minors are known to be involved and that Stress isn't involved, but don't want the drama. I remember the controversy of TinFoilChef saying something that was quite homophobic, but while some views absolutely blasted him, some others explained that being gay isn't how he said. TFC made a public apology that was pretty well excepted. From what I remember, Xisumavoid (the HC admin) and ZombieCleo were among the biggest defenders of his apology, while most stayed out of it, avoiding the drama. Cleo is bisexual by the way, so their public forgiveness really means something. (R.I.P TinFoilChef) My point for saying all of this is that this isn't the first time that Hermitcraft has faced drama, and probably won't be the last, but they seem to be really good at dealing with it. (I think that there was a couple other times too, but I haven't seem anything pre-season 6.) I think a huge part about why that is is that they are all adults. Some have a more childish demeanor, like Grian, but you can be a child at heart even though you're still a mature adult. There's nothing wrong with that.
I don't really understand the claims in the document from Kassi. She calls herself and other people "victims". Victim of what exactly ? Flirty chat or is there something else. Cause as far as I can tell, trying to flirt with someone isn't a crime, or is it ?
She was saying that Iskall took advantage of her basically whilst he was in a romantic relationship at the time His behaviour isn’t criminal it’s just weird and creepy
The way I view it is that it was sexual harassment, probably. In my opinion, what the messages were were pushing boundaries. Even Kassi says that she felt as though the messages were a bit too strong, so that's probably the stance she and others took.
😂 mb I still feel as though hermitcraft would’ve done it either way and removed him They’re removing any association with him Main points of the video were just showing what was said Thanks for the feedback!
@@NotParallax this is the kind of thought that gets innocent people hurt Even if he turns out to be guilty this is a wrong point of view to have Do better
@@NotParallax There's such a thing as "innocent until proven guilty". It is unjust to assume someone is guilty without enough information. I'm not even criticizing hermitcraft to confront him about the allegations, he was the one to leave after all, and hermitcraft wants to keep a family friendly brand, so, it's normal for them to be so cautious.
@@malpheus4299 I appreciate the feedback However what he did was creepy Making sexual advances to your discord moderators isn’t an ok thing to do period, minor or not. And he also left the server as he was confronted by others. I was simply documenting the allegations My intention wasn’t to create a false narrative or paint iskall as a predator which I did state in the video :)
having etho and mumbo in the image kinda makes this eem like they were involved. given that they arent, might want to remove them or make them look "regretful" somehow.
@@yggdrasil75 mumbo was involved he made a statement on twitter I was just using recognisable skins to show that it’s hermitcraft related since iskalls face is covered up I go over everything in the video :) not tryna be bias or create a false narrative
So iskall is getting canceled for flirting? With an adult? Not minors? I don’t see what wrong? And then when confronted he leaves and stress goes with him? Yeah something is missing, this don’t make sense imo
So viewers know it’s about the hermit craft situation Was gonna put mumbo and grian but grians skin is red and blends in with the background Mumbo also made a statement about the situation on twitter
9 minutes and 42 seconds of so many words and so little communication. I must have missed the big reveal plot twist that made him a ‘creep’ as per the thumbnail. Shitty-hate farming clickbait.
for hermitcraft this is a good thing. Iskall85 allways was that one friend that shows up at the beginning of a project when hype is high and you get a lot of attention. But as soon as you have to put in the work you can see him avoiding it. Also he was that Hermit that constantly was lying, to his fans, to his friends and other hermits, and shrugging it off with the standard : i was just joking. Watch hermit interactions with him, no matter what he does or says, most hermits do not trust him, because they know how he is. At last if there is no attention and no more entertainment because of new lies ( people stop interating with you when you are allways just making stuff up) he will go away, leaving hermitcraft behind and jump to vault hunters to get his kicks. It does not even matter what happened now, because for a long time Iskall was that one friend, noone would fully enjoy to interact with.
Honestly, I stopped watching his videos because I got bored of it. And now his builds are on season 10. Hermitcraft and stress monster is also gone. I mean I didn't really care for that person either. No big deal to me.
I hope everyone dont take it to serious for now.. We only hear 1 side of the story and a small part of it... So yes we can say they where adults so speak up and dont be a victim... but we dont know the whole story... So take all this with a grain of salt... For me i am hanging towards its worse then we think as hermicraft removing him when asking,, mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls removing there stuff with him.. is not a small thing... esp when i think that mumbo distance himself from iskall... they where close friends and did allot together... big youtubers (in my mind) distance them from him does make me feel that something is more wrong. But please dont attack iskall, Video's like this make some people haters and take it out on the content creator (iskall) what makes the hater more evil then what happend. I have seen video's like this before where afterwards it was not even as close as people thought but in the mean time they did assault the creator and destroyed someone's live over something they did not do... and you cannot turn that back. Let them solve it themselfs.
They probably just removed him since they are family friendly. From what we've seen he's committed no crimes, especially doesn't need to be cancelled for it
people still defend him, there's enough evidence to find if you do a little digging, but it's a good thing the hermits kicked him off, all i'm gonna say.. I liked iskall at the beginning but you could see his decline about 6 months ago already, never expected this though... so yeh just ignore the blinded fanbase or those who have no morals, indeed several have cut ties with iskall for "reasons".
Thanks for your comment! I’m not attacking iskall as a person or a content creator he was a bit of a creep towards his discord mods, based on the evidence shown in the original document. I simply just wanted to document and archive the allegations as well as give a brief summary of the situation to people who are unaware I appreciate your feedback
Mumbo only specified because the first message about the controversy was vague, Iskall was never branded as a predator thanks to Mumbo's specification, but if he was it would have been false speculation.
Yeah it’s interesting for sure I clarified in the video that he isn’t a pedophile I was just going over why he was removed from hermitcraft and what others said about him If there’s anything more I’ll come out w a video going over his response (if he does)
this was new news for me i was a huge fan of Iskall85. I guess it is true then the celebraties are always will be on the wrong side of the table of becoming a preditor ...
We’re still yet to hear his side of the story He wasn’t a predator taking advantage of minors But it’s crazy to see how quickly he was removed from things following these allegations
From what we can see in the document and knowing the hermits of hermitcraft recieved more SS about the sexual harrasment I think it is safe to assume Iskall is unfortunatly a predator even if minor's weren't involved.
I'm not understanding the alleged victim. So, the person started having intimate conversations with Iskall, and she(/he) seemed to enjoy those conversations (even including "flirtition"). So, if this is the case, if I understood this part correctly, why would she(/he) become so uncomfortable when he started taking things to another level? Something's off with this story. If you voluntarily feed a certain type of feelings in another person, then you should expect that person to want more of those feelings. It would be very different if the person making the allegations never tried to have "conversations that included flirtation, and shared love for minecraft, and hopes and dreams", and the Iskall would start approaching this person inappropriately. Maybe I'm understanding this wrong, though
His response was Leave server once confronted I covered what was said by the victims and what was goin on Wasn’t calling iskall a predator Just a creep
Might be a little unrelated, but iskall’s little “flirty” interactions with Joel always felt weird to me, but looking back this makes it so much worse…
girlie when did i say it was a crime?! 😂 it just felt a little weird to me. all i’m saying is that there is clear evidence of him making people feel uncomfortable and he has done things wrong. the hermits wouldn’t have taken it this seriously if it was nothing. i personally think he is guilty but not much info has come out. there’s no need to get so defensive just because i think an interaction seems a little weird now.
Just disappointed in him like many of his followers and fans. I think Iskall wanted out from HC for a longer time. He did hint on it many months til a year earlier but it was more or less reading between the lines. Probably the best he could do was to resign and take all the drama with him out from Hermitcraft.
Explain what I’ve done wrong here? I didn’t accuse anyone of anything The allegations from alleged victims is sexual harassment and making weird sexual advances to them We still haven’t got iskalls response yet and all he’s done is leave the server once confronted
victim is a strong word to throw around here without proof its hard to make a judgment. Nothing mentioned is that bad odd or creepy at best but with scattered ''proof' missing many things out i think its best to wait.
Its not hard to just say "im uncomfortable" he was a great youtuber also they are all adults shit like this happens a lot he may have had feelings for said people the "victims" hang out with him on a daily basis of course that may spark some sort of connection. Like the X posts said their is no victims just this generation is doomed and people het hurt so easily
I never heard of him so whether or not he's guilty or not idk. Possibly ? If not minors. I guess it's creepy and gross at most. Fame, and just discord corrupts people. Eveyrone is just so willing to exploit others. So nasty.
Right ss they are allegations and yes theres proof there isnt proof of the person saying they were uncomfortable in any messages from what I have seen from this maybe je didnt understand it was sprt of "wrong" as he technically opened up he had feelings for someone but i dunno jot my place to say
What a laughable video. "Studied for years to come"? These girls are "victims" of what?! Flirty chat??? What did he do again that required cancelling? All of that for cheating? Why are you blowing this out of proportion?
Harassment - The act of continuing to do things that upset or discomfort someone who has shown that they are upset or made uncomfortable by said things. Iskall would continue to engage in inappropriate behavior even after one victim would change the subject. Also if you don't think cheating in a long term relationship of any sort is a scummy move then you really need to readjust that standard of yours. Also if you payed attention or did any research at all it was more than "flirty chat" it was emotional manipulation and sexting.
@@awesomoose7822 Uh.. His scummy behaviour is that - scummy and that's it. It doesn't call for cancelling, Grian removing "Iskall" from titles of videos from 6 years ago, the Hermitcraft and his modding community disowning him, or "studying for years to come." "If I paid attention" or "did any research"? I did pay attention and this video is as much research as I am willing to do on this blown-out-of-proportions topic. They weren't even minors. Losen up, people.
@@Ziad3195 agreed, Iskall wasn't even that bad of a person. People are taking this too far just because of how much P*EDO talk been going on this year. A lot of people think all famous people are creeps just to make DRAMA without PROOF
if iskall was an OF girlie getting simp boys to pay for her lifestyle and leading them on, then it would just be considered normal internet and literally wouldnt even be talked about.
There's a big difference between only fans and a minecraft youtuber. It has nothing to do with his gender. If one of the female hermits started an OF, she would probably be removed as well. What he did wasn't illegal, but it's not the type of community Hermitcraft wants to build where the creators are using their power dynamic to pressure fans or mods to sext over Skype.
@@thexanderthemander both prostitute themselves out to simps who throw money at them hoping to be the "special" one. none of this came to a head until one of the simps felt aggrieved that their simping wasnt solo.
Hitting on a mod is normal. She says no you move on. She gives interest you keep going. I don't need to know what was said or talked about in details as many things can be said at any given time that seem odd days or weeks later... call me daddy type of things in the moment are fun but weird when looked at weeks later.. if she is a employee vs a fan also changes things. I have no issues with celebrities having sex with fans as why not vs a employee who is stuck showing up to work and you have power over their income. There is a clear difference. If he was making sexual advances at a fan over and over again and she kept replying, taking his calls, calling him... well you can see in his mind she must like it as she keeps showing up around me. If she was a employee there is no flirting down ever. You can flirt up and see if there is interest but as a boss those under your rule are off limits.
I hope that iskalls side comes out because I’m sick of RUclipsrs going on and acting guilty until proven innocent whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty takes two sides of a story to make a final judgement in my opinion.
dc if a minor was involved or not i never really cared if the person was being a pedo or not for me like most crimes are the same and adultery is disgusting he should be jailed if adultery is against the law where he lives.adultery breaks the trust people have in you its the highest form of betrayal a person can do
Season 7 HermitCraft was peak Iskall. Him, Mumbo and Grian were such a good trio. I didn't care for Vault Hunters and wished he'd stuck with HermitCraft. Shame things shook out this way. I know this isn't much, but given Minecraft RUclipsrs, at least it wasn't minors.
iskall mumbo grian was season 6
@@MissingGrape they were a pretty involved trio in S7 as well
its sad that the bare minimum is people not talking to minors, why is the bar so low
@@nikei8869 Iskall was not involved with minors. The bare minimum for canceling someone is at least knowing what he is being accused of.
@@lamarckleland5731 Nobody here has any say over who is on hermitcraft --- stop yelling "cancelled" at everything, 99% of the people closest to him, who have way way way more information about the accusations... "cancelled" him. Also READ the comments you're replying to... The comments are: "at least it wasn't minors." the other was: "its sad that the bare minimum is people not talking to minors, why is the bar so low"....nobody is accusing him of doing anything with a minor.
Since it’s the internet, I won’t be immediately jumping to conclusions.
However, him not saying anything and leaving the server immediately is the biggest red flag for me.
tbf, that's exactly what a lawyer would reccomend him to do. It's outdated advice with how fast things spread on the internet if you don't have an immediate reaction, but most lawyers would rather you stay silent than make the case more complicated
@@broski7792 Yeah, I am a lawyer and that is what I recommend. It's not outdated, it's the best course of action.
Also Iskall had already been talking about quitting Hermitcraft since at least two years, this was just the last straw for him.
@@lamarckleland5731 lol you're a lawyer, where? He's not even being accused of anything illegally civillian nor criminally... for being a lawyer how do you not know this. Hermitcraft, which is a brand, each individual members are brands, they literally make money with ads, and partnerships.... can CHOOSE not to associate with him without him being a criminal. Nobody anywhere has accused him a a crime so WHAT are you talking about "lawyer"? Was that word a type you're a iskall fan, spamming comments being a fan.
@@justmarcus33 I never mentioned anything you are talking about. Go calm down.
I only said it has proven to be best not to haste to make any videos apologizing or trying to explain yourself when everybody is against you.
Also, lol what are you even to judge anyone else?
@@lamarckleland5731 You literally said: "Yeah, I am a lawyer and that is what I recommend. It's not outdated, it's the best course of action.
Also Iskall had already been talking about quitting Hermitcraft since at least two years, this was just the last straw for him."
I'm saying nobody has mentioned legal issues... why are you confused? What does being a lawyer, not being a lawyer, remaining silent have to do with something completely unreleated to a legal issue? Why are you confused?
Correction: Iskall was not removed from Hermitcraft, he resigned.
Fair point should’ve been clearer on that just weird that he chose to resign after allegations
Following that other hermitcraft members such as mumbo and grian removed association with him too
Thanks for the feedback
@ Yeah, I think he did was horrible and should have been removed, but he left when questioned
Tbh just leaving after allegations is more sus lol
That's just what they say for PR reasons.
Ehhhhhhh. Its more like "You don't fire me, I quit!"
Very small detail but, iskall does not mean "is cold" it means "ice cold". "Is" is Swedish for ice and "kall" is cold.
Thanks lol I also noted that his birthday was the 30th of December Ty for clearing up
I feel like there is definitely more than just this. I agree it’s creepy and a power trip, but for everyone to drop him so quickly and turn their backs I just feel like there is more to it. I’m also wondering why stress left aswell. This entire situation just feels off and missing a piece.
I know him and stress were close so it’s not unlikely that she’s just taking time for herself and focusing on the important stuff, like her family. Plus it’s not unlikely that there is more to it that we don’t know yet but also it’s still understandable that the hermits and VH staff just wouldn’t want to be involved with him anymore, it’s a huge violation of trust and just plain gross. I really think it’s important to not compare this to other situations involving much more heinous stuff as that will devalue the impact that this has had on the people around it. If anything this should make people realize how truly awful those other situations are since this is still a fully valid and warranted response.
Oh hell naw 😭, the Minecraft RUclipsr curse is real 💀
There aren’t minors involved that we know of yet
It’s still sad to see established creators taking advantage of power dynamics like that though 😔
@@NotParallax watch minors are involved in this
@@Titanic-wo6bq I sure hope not
I remember back when he was doing in person vlogs with stress and the way he was talking and trying to hug her, the way she was reacting and the nervousness in her voice.. I said right there and then that he was some creep who pushes weird handsy boundaries with women and made them uncomfortable. We’ve all had weird guy friends with the “where’s my hug?!” Attitude though
Aren't they couple though? I heard they were.
They aren't a couple, iskall and stress have both just been doing MC content together a long time and technically he contributed to her getting on the HermitCraft server. Stress has also resigned along with Iskall as of right now.
I did notice that he just disappeared, but honestly after Mumbo took off half of hermitcraft season 9, I thought it was something similar. Not a big deal.
I will say that I’m reminded of Joel’s interaction with him, and now I wonder if Joel knew something or if he was just being Joel. It’s hard to tell and we may never get an actual answer.
Until more comes out, other than being creepy, I’m not sure he did more than most cheaters. Which sucks For the people who were involved, but do I think it was enough for him to be removed from the hermitcraft server? Yes. They have to protect the brand and impressionable kids.
I think it’s responsible and respectful that he did so on his own.
We will probably never see him on hermitcraft again but he could still make content. Sjin does. (Whole different can of worms there and just an example)
what interaction?
What interaction
I don't watch Joel, so I kinda want to know what the interaction was bewteen the two.
😂 I totally forgot about Mumbo being gone for a while during Season 9! It was quite a long season, and he came back later, so I had forgotten. It also has only happened once with Mumbo since I started watching his Hermitcraft videos at the beginning of Season 6.
For Iskall, it's been a pattern! He wasn't around much at the end of Season 7, was gone most of Season 8, then he was there for a while at the beginning of Season 9, but later was gone for a long time, only coming back briefly or having a video talking about coming back, but he never really did. Then in Season 10, he had a lot of videos in the beginning, but now hasn't had an upload in 4 months, and the videos before that were 6 months ago! I'm honestly glad I don't have to wonder about when Iskall will come back anymore.
The Joel's secret admirer thing was weird. At first it seemed like a funny bit, but later was excessive.
I knew there were things that had felt off, thinking back to watching his Season 10 videos, but I hadn't thought of anything specific. The situation with Joel was probably one of those things. Things that felt over the top or made me uncomfortable.
Although I was initially surprised by the news of his resignation, I wasn't shocked by the accusations, considering his behavior in Season 10.
The whole Joel thing was weird too, in hindsight. I thought it was adding to the whole bit of everyone being obsessed with Joel, but he was kinda over the top with it.
i've seen a few comments like mine so i'll keep it short
i understand cheating on his partner is very bad, infidelity always will be. but that makes his partner a cheater, it's hard to paint yourself as a victim who fell prey to a predatory youtuber when you admit he was not actually invading your boundaries, by my opinion the fact it's stated he flirted, and she flirted back, means his advances were not only never shot down but reciprocated. sure you can say "she was in emotional distress and wasn't thinking straight at the time" but i really don't think that means we can act like Iskalls a monster, i'm not a "youtubers can do no wrong" person i've seen controversies time and time again, i'm just saying before treating this man with the same level of harshness you'd give a actual predator or pedophile, or in this case them calling him a "creep" which is just rude. we should treat him like a dude who cheated on his partner, it's still deserving of shame but calling the "other woman" a victim just makes no sense. for what it's worth he dun effed-up...but when we're living in a time when minecraft youtubers are being shot down like fish in a barrel for horrendous acts MAYBE just maybe we could direct some of that hate to actual creeps who try to take advantage of women not just online but IRL too. thanks that's all, if you read it i'm fine with criticism as long as you're not trying to call me a simp or something, i think we should actually evaluate this situation legitamately though before banishing him to the realm of dead channels.
You can't be a cheater when you're single.
I never said iskall was a monster
He was making weird sexual advances to his moderators, which is creepy behaviour. Never said iskall was a predator or claimed he was one
I was just reporting what was said online and why he was removed from the server
Cheating on a partner is fucked but I don't understand why they're calling themselves victims, what did he do exactly?
He was being extremely flirty and sexually inappropriate to his employees even though they were extremely uncomfortable with it. A lot of people were on Iskall's side saying, "Oh well they're adults they could have just said something and moved on." But the people who he was talking to were his employees. They couldn't say anything in fear of losing their jobs. He specifically targeted his employees knowing he had power over them. Absolutely disgusting if you ask me.
who am i to judge, i have done worse things if u ask me, so idgaf
@@mmwmwwThat’s a bad look for you tbf
Yeah Ikr. I don’t wanna jump into conclusions but when I read the evidence on the google doc one of the alleged “victims” posted (I also read Mef’s testimony btw), the person was just rolling with it, If she was feeling uncomfortable in the first place the best plan of action is set barriers straight away, she was just changing the subject of conversation instead of saying “I’m not interested” or something to reject the flirtatious texts from iskall. I know there were other “victims” involved and allegedly some sexting too, but I assume it was fully consensual from the parties involved, if not this would have happened much sooner and it would probably be worse than it is now. Also the evidence is from some old ass texts from a year ago. IMO This got way more out of hand than I assumed, yeah it sucks that he cheated, yeah he is unprofessional and kind of a douche for doing that with his employees,but as far as we know no crime was committed so yeah.
@ There is defo stuff we haven’t seen given how the hermits and co have reacted. Hbomb spoke very strongly about it and Tango said he was very happy to do it when he removed an iskall head from one of his builds.
Iskall is now another case in the long list of why trying to date your fans never works. There is always a 99.99% chance it will blow up in your face. If you ever find yourself with a significant online following, try to seek relationships with people who don't know who you are.
it may work when you are trying to date only one of your fans...or emplyees......
I had no idea about this whole situation and I'm glad you were able to make a video to share what happened! This was quite the surprise for me
This is just hate farming... We only know ONE SIDE OF THE STORY SO FAR but how you paint iskall is already guilty. Man youtubers this days
@@felix8885jkl thanks for the feedback Felix, considering iskall left as soon as he was confronted his actions speak louder than words, if he was innocent why wouldn’t he come out saying hey I’m innocent and this isn’t true?
If he makes a response I will talk about that as well however if he wasn’t guilty why would hermitcraft completely try to disassociate with him, have close friends turn on him and other people come forward about his patterns of behaviour?
I said iskall is guilty of the current allegations based on the doc I linked below which provides evidence
Its more than one side. More than one person has come out, granted most of them want to stay anon. But honestly seeing all the hermits react. I kinda trust their judgement on this.
Yea I agree what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent I really hope iskalls side comes out soon whether he’s guilty or not
@@NotParallax That's exactly why you shouldn't say he is guilty. We don't have his side of the story.
In these kinds of situations, a lawyer would always warn you to stay silent instead of inmediately releasing a statement, response or apology. He will eventually give a response. I'm clearly not claiming he is innocent, but from a legal standpoint you can't condemn him of anything yet just for the content
People like you are really exaggerating this. There’s no need for that cliche “exposed RUclipsr” thumbnail with “CREEP” written over his eyes. He was just a bit flirty, that’s all we know. And if he was being too flirty, the people he was doing this to should have asked him to stop. If they did, it would be strange of them to have not mentioned it. If he actually did cheat on someone, that’s a different story.
I dare you to walk up to your creepy friend and tell them to stop harassing you. I guarantee they'll keep at it regardless of what you say. I can't imagine victim blaming anyone regardless of how severe the actions were. People like you make it hard for real victims to be believed because you think a simple "Stop it" will make someone leave you alone
@@MersuneLiku "Say nothing, because it wouldn't help anyway" L take
@@ShortManRob That's not an accurate summary of this guy's take. More like "Saying something doesn't always work or help." Which is a way more reasonable take. There are plenty of people with zero respect for boundaries or that get really hellbent on whatever it is they want.
It's completely relative on the situation whether or not an attempt at doing something would change the outcome of the situation. Because of this, I'd say it's always worth it to try and persist at it for a time. Have a long talk with the weirdo and see if that works as well, bc you could attempt to plant seeds of good in 'em. The correct answer is somewhere in the middle of rob and liku's statements
@@awesomoose7822 doesn't help he held power over them, being their boss and such.
I must know why Etho is in the thumbnail.
Clickbait: recognisable hermitcraft character
What’s an SMP?
Survival Multiplayer
game mode where everyone is on survival mode and they all play together on one server
Bro is getting a video idea 💀
Is this getting a video idea
S urvival M ulti p layer
I still think this is blown out of proportion. Like all that should’ve been said is stop Iskall instead of expecting him to read thoughts through the internet but maybe I just don understand it
We don't know the full story. I'm worried it's serious.
I can see it both ways... For the information we get and have it looks out of proportion.. But mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls deleting stuff makes me think otherwise.. Esp mumbo as they are good friends and most season played together close... so there is more to it then they tell us and for us to guess..
Based on Tango’s reaction, where he removed an iskall head from his build and said “happy to have done that”, whatever he did is worse than what we know.
I agree with you honestly, the drama part come from the fact that he his well know making any bad thing blow out of proportion.
Look even if I don't agree with the whole cheating stuff, it not something uncommon, plus we don't know really know the current state of his private life. Lot of relationship turn cold and in a lot of case that also a reason why someone look around for either a new partner or just for adult need. Doesn't make it okay to do it, it doesn't excuse the action in a committed relationship but not all relationship work. Everyone change and everyone get different need. Relationship that last a lifetime are rare. Just it would be better to break up or discuss thing with you partner before looking around while keeping the relationship...
Maybe he been a bit creepy about some of the stuff he said but at the same time it seem like he was flirting around, what an adult can do, if he didn't force himself and think he had something with someone... Is it really that bad ? Honestly if the person was into the flirting part that could been perfectly okay and nobody seem to have commented saying they weren't interesting from the little bit of conversation we have... We said victim but victim of what exactly ? Getting flirt on ? If that the extend of the thing he did, he doesn't deserve having his hard work destroyed.
My overall issue with the drama is that the only bad thing I see here is him cheating on someone, but this blow out of proportion and make the person he flirt with "Victim" of "Creepy comment" which is... flirting, between... 2 adult. As long nothing else than flirting happen which soo far is the Copy paste conversation we see on every video. We didn't see anything about the "Victim" asking him to stop and him continuing or making "REALLY creepy comment" like... it pretty tamed, it not like he said anything "wild" in that copy pasted conversation either.
So honestly, idk why people try to make something has tame as that and turn him into some kind of monster.
We lack context but the RUclips drama train already hit, he might have been remove simply because they don't want to associate themselves with the drama and some people have a really strong opinion about cheating. When you are a public figure, anything can get out of proportion for the sake of pity internet point.
People will go up to create fake drama and destroyed someone life and\or reputation for the sake of attention.
@Anonyomus_commenter which video was this?
I think the hermits remaining mostly silent and just trying to distance themselves and Hermitcraft him him as much as possible is the right move. They don't won't to attract any more attention from this then necessary.
They want to clear the air some by saying no minors are known to be involved and that Stress isn't involved, but don't want the drama.
I remember the controversy of TinFoilChef saying something that was quite homophobic, but while some views absolutely blasted him, some others explained that being gay isn't how he said. TFC made a public apology that was pretty well excepted. From what I remember, Xisumavoid (the HC admin) and ZombieCleo were among the biggest defenders of his apology, while most stayed out of it, avoiding the drama. Cleo is bisexual by the way, so their public forgiveness really means something. (R.I.P TinFoilChef)
My point for saying all of this is that this isn't the first time that Hermitcraft has faced drama, and probably won't be the last, but they seem to be really good at dealing with it. (I think that there was a couple other times too, but I haven't seem anything pre-season 6.)
I think a huge part about why that is is that they are all adults. Some have a more childish demeanor, like Grian, but you can be a child at heart even though you're still a mature adult. There's nothing wrong with that.
Silence is what brought us here in the first place because so-called victims were too cowardly to give Iskall an answer.
I don't really understand the claims in the document from Kassi. She calls herself and other people "victims". Victim of what exactly ? Flirty chat or is there something else. Cause as far as I can tell, trying to flirt with someone isn't a crime, or is it ?
it's a power dynamic problem
Iskall did nothing wrong
She was saying that Iskall took advantage of her basically whilst he was in a romantic relationship at the time
His behaviour isn’t criminal it’s just weird and creepy
@@NotParallaxI get that, cheating is horribly wrong and he was being a creep, but I don’t think they should be considered “Victims”
The way I view it is that it was sexual harassment, probably. In my opinion, what the messages were were pushing boundaries. Even Kassi says that she felt as though the messages were a bit too strong, so that's probably the stance she and others took.
0:27
''as he was removed from the smp''
3:32
''Iskall chose to resign''
Forgot to get your facts in order before hitting record, eh?
😂 mb I still feel as though hermitcraft would’ve done it either way and removed him
They’re removing any association with him
Main points of the video were just showing what was said
Thanks for the feedback!
It was just a poor attempt at rizzing up someone, I dont understand the reaction
Not sure you can just claim someone is "guilty" before all facts are known.
@@dannyc7839 100% but if someone wasn’t guilty wouldn’t they come out and be like hey guys I did not do this
Why leave once confronted?
@@NotParallax this is the kind of thought that gets innocent people hurt
Even if he turns out to be guilty this is a wrong point of view to have
Do better
@@NotParallax There's such a thing as "innocent until proven guilty". It is unjust to assume someone is guilty without enough information. I'm not even criticizing hermitcraft to confront him about the allegations, he was the one to leave after all, and hermitcraft wants to keep a family friendly brand, so, it's normal for them to be so cautious.
@@NotParallax
@@NotParallax cause thats the smart decision
Seems pretty inflamatory to do the thumbnail this way. Stop farming content off speculation and treating this topic like free views.
@@malpheus4299 I appreciate the feedback
However what he did was creepy
Making sexual advances to your discord moderators isn’t an ok thing to do period, minor or not.
And he also left the server as he was confronted by others.
I was simply documenting the allegations
My intention wasn’t to create a false narrative or paint iskall as a predator which I did state in the video :)
having etho and mumbo in the image kinda makes this eem like they were involved. given that they arent, might want to remove them or make them look "regretful" somehow.
@@yggdrasil75 mumbo was involved he made a statement on twitter
I was just using recognisable skins to show that it’s hermitcraft related since iskalls face is covered up
I go over everything in the video :) not tryna be bias or create a false narrative
just get to the point...
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@@lvo1004 I see what you did there lol
Good lord man, he had an affair with another adult get over it.
I'm gonna miss seeing iskallman pop up and hook everyone up with things
Wow, that was some quick editing! Keep it up:)
Thanks! 😁
His record is definitely ice cold now.
So iskall is getting canceled for flirting? With an adult? Not minors? I don’t see what wrong? And then when confronted he leaves and stress goes with him? Yeah something is missing, this don’t make sense imo
Why is Etho and Mumbo on the thumbnail?
So viewers know it’s about the hermit craft situation
Was gonna put mumbo and grian but grians skin is red and blends in with the background
Mumbo also made a statement about the situation on twitter
9 minutes and 42 seconds of so many words and so little communication. I must have missed the big reveal plot twist that made him a ‘creep’ as per the thumbnail. Shitty-hate farming clickbait.
Its gonna be weird for the hermits for a bit.
The fact that Mumbo and Grian removed Iskalls name in their video title, feels like theres more into this allegations... Not just cheating...
for hermitcraft this is a good thing. Iskall85 allways was that one friend that shows up at the beginning of a project when hype is high and you get a lot of attention. But as soon as you have to put in the work you can see him avoiding it. Also he was that Hermit that constantly was lying, to his fans, to his friends and other hermits, and shrugging it off with the standard : i was just joking. Watch hermit interactions with him, no matter what he does or says, most hermits do not trust him, because they know how he is. At last if there is no attention and no more entertainment because of new lies ( people stop interating with you when you are allways just making stuff up) he will go away, leaving hermitcraft behind and jump to vault hunters to get his kicks. It does not even matter what happened now, because for a long time Iskall was that one friend, noone would fully enjoy to interact with.
Me when I bank off the misfortune of others with a clickbait thumbnail and low effort video
Man the Minecraft curse continues 😢
Honestly, I stopped watching his videos because I got bored of it. And now his builds are on season 10. Hermitcraft and stress monster is also gone. I mean I didn't really care for that person either. No big deal to me.
it’s actually really sad to see another youtuber turned out to be another bad person:(
Iskall85 to Iskall69
I hope everyone dont take it to serious for now.. We only hear 1 side of the story and a small part of it... So yes we can say they where adults so speak up and dont be a victim... but we dont know the whole story... So take all this with a grain of salt...
For me i am hanging towards its worse then we think as hermicraft removing him when asking,, mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls removing there stuff with him.. is not a small thing... esp when i think that mumbo distance himself from iskall... they where close friends and did allot together... big youtubers (in my mind) distance them from him does make me feel that something is more wrong.
But please dont attack iskall, Video's like this make some people haters and take it out on the content creator (iskall) what makes the hater more evil then what happend.
I have seen video's like this before where afterwards it was not even as close as people thought but in the mean time they did assault the creator and destroyed someone's live over something they did not do... and you cannot turn that back.
Let them solve it themselfs.
They probably just removed him since they are family friendly. From what we've seen he's committed no crimes, especially doesn't need to be cancelled for it
people still defend him, there's enough evidence to find if you do a little digging, but it's a good thing the hermits kicked him off, all i'm gonna say..
I liked iskall at the beginning but you could see his decline about 6 months ago already, never expected this though...
so yeh just ignore the blinded fanbase or those who have no morals, indeed several have cut ties with iskall for "reasons".
Thanks for your comment! I’m not attacking iskall as a person or a content creator
he was a bit of a creep towards his discord mods, based on the evidence shown in the original document.
I simply just wanted to document and archive the allegations as well as give a brief summary of the situation to people who are unaware
I appreciate your feedback
So now messaging people flirtatiously online brands you as a predator? This is the most petty version of cancel culture I’ve seen in a while…
Mumbo only specified because the first message about the controversy was vague, Iskall was never branded as a predator thanks to Mumbo's specification, but if he was it would have been false speculation.
Yeah it’s interesting for sure
I clarified in the video that he isn’t a pedophile
I was just going over why he was removed from hermitcraft and what others said about him
If there’s anything more I’ll come out w a video going over his response (if he does)
Yo, what the fuck happened?!
I worked for iskall85, he's a freaky bro...
What’d you do
Fake
this was new news for me i was a huge fan of Iskall85. I guess it is true then the celebraties are always will be on the wrong side of the table of becoming a preditor ...
We’re still yet to hear his side of the story
He wasn’t a predator taking advantage of minors
But it’s crazy to see how quickly he was removed from things following these allegations
From what we can see in the document and knowing the hermits of hermitcraft recieved more SS about the sexual harrasment I think it is safe to assume Iskall is unfortunatly a predator even if minor's weren't involved.
Iskall Means Ice Cold
@@hubbeplays yeah thanks for that meant to say ice cold but said is cold by mistake in the takes lol 🙏
@ ye nice!
Oh come on... iskall was my favorite hermit for so long...
First HermitCraft Exposed???
I'm not understanding the alleged victim. So, the person started having intimate conversations with Iskall, and she(/he) seemed to enjoy those conversations (even including "flirtition"). So, if this is the case, if I understood this part correctly, why would she(/he) become so uncomfortable when he started taking things to another level? Something's off with this story. If you voluntarily feed a certain type of feelings in another person, then you should expect that person to want more of those feelings. It would be very different if the person making the allegations never tried to have "conversations that included flirtation, and shared love for minecraft, and hopes and dreams", and the Iskall would start approaching this person inappropriately. Maybe I'm understanding this wrong, though
Why are we calling them victims if they were all adults who knew what they were getting into and could exit any moment?
Maybe wait for his response next time before making a vid for some cheap views with a copycat thumbnail 🙄
His response was
Leave server once confronted
I covered what was said by the victims and what was goin on
Wasn’t calling iskall a predator
Just a creep
Might be a little unrelated, but iskall’s little “flirty” interactions with Joel always felt weird to me, but looking back this makes it so much worse…
How?? What has he done wrong? He just sent flirty messages to people and acts flirty to Joel. How is that bad? Flirting is not a crime!
girlie when did i say it was a crime?! 😂
it just felt a little weird to me. all i’m saying is that there is clear evidence of him making people feel uncomfortable and he has done things wrong. the hermits wouldn’t have taken it this seriously if it was nothing. i personally think he is guilty but not much info has come out. there’s no need to get so defensive just because i think an interaction seems a little weird now.
@@savalavaloy3549He was very over the top about it…
LoL his theory of everyone needs to "Play to win"
Didn't go so well 😂😂😂
Just disappointed in him like many of his followers and fans. I think Iskall wanted out from HC for a longer time. He did hint on it many months til a year earlier but it was more or less reading between the lines. Probably the best he could do was to resign and take all the drama with him out from Hermitcraft.
What are you even disappointed about? Crazy how much you're overreacting
I got here before your video blew up! Great breakdown👏
weirdly enough i watched all of this on my accord maybe i just prefer simple editing good work
Nah bro I hold you hostage to watch all my vids
Oh no adult was flirting with a adult , no way. It's such a brain dead cancel attempt
So what is the accusation? I don't get it. Flirting? Allegations of what exactly? I honestly don't know what is going on.
I think cheating on his wife? This guy is the worst drama youtuber ive ever seen
Explain what I’ve done wrong here?
I didn’t accuse anyone of anything
The allegations from alleged victims is sexual harassment and making weird sexual advances to them
We still haven’t got iskalls response yet and all he’s done is leave the server once confronted
Damn, this is sad. I used to love watching Iskall… :/
I just don't understand how is it so hard to just be a decant human to others and self?
victim is a strong word to throw around here without proof its hard to make a judgment. Nothing mentioned is that bad odd or creepy at best but with scattered ''proof' missing many things out i think its best to wait.
Well, hermitcraft has added people to the server so he's not really a loss. I don't miss him
Its not hard to just say "im uncomfortable" he was a great youtuber also they are all adults shit like this happens a lot he may have had feelings for said people the "victims" hang out with him on a daily basis of course that may spark some sort of connection. Like the X posts said their is no victims just this generation is doomed and people het hurt so easily
I never heard of him so whether or not he's guilty or not idk. Possibly ? If not minors. I guess it's creepy and gross at most. Fame, and just discord corrupts people. Eveyrone is just so willing to exploit others. So nasty.
He flirted with some girls 💀
Exactly bro, people using words like "victim" is crazy
Right ss they are allegations and yes theres proof there isnt proof of the person saying they were uncomfortable in any messages from what I have seen from this maybe je didnt understand it was sprt of "wrong" as he technically opened up he had feelings for someone but i dunno jot my place to say
If Iskall was gay, would there have ever been any drama?
😢
What a laughable video. "Studied for years to come"? These girls are "victims" of what?! Flirty chat???
What did he do again that required cancelling? All of that for cheating? Why are you blowing this out of proportion?
Harassment - The act of continuing to do things that upset or discomfort someone who has shown that they are upset or made uncomfortable by said things.
Iskall would continue to engage in inappropriate behavior even after one victim would change the subject.
Also if you don't think cheating in a long term relationship of any sort is a scummy move then you really need to readjust that standard of yours.
Also if you payed attention or did any research at all it was more than "flirty chat" it was emotional manipulation and sexting.
@@awesomoose7822 Uh.. His scummy behaviour is that - scummy and that's it. It doesn't call for cancelling, Grian removing "Iskall" from titles of videos from 6 years ago, the Hermitcraft and his modding community disowning him, or "studying for years to come."
"If I paid attention" or "did any research"? I did pay attention and this video is as much research as I am willing to do on this blown-out-of-proportions topic.
They weren't even minors. Losen up, people.
@@Ziad3195 agreed, Iskall wasn't even that bad of a person. People are taking this too far just because of how much P*EDO talk been going on this year. A lot of people think all famous people are creeps just to make DRAMA without PROOF
@@anthony_scotia1586 Pedo talk this year? I am unfamiliar
I know stuff abt Mumbo Jumbo
if iskall was an OF girlie getting simp boys to pay for her lifestyle and leading them on, then it would just be considered normal internet and literally wouldnt even be talked about.
There's a big difference between only fans and a minecraft youtuber. It has nothing to do with his gender. If one of the female hermits started an OF, she would probably be removed as well. What he did wasn't illegal, but it's not the type of community Hermitcraft wants to build where the creators are using their power dynamic to pressure fans or mods to sext over Skype.
@@thexanderthemander both prostitute themselves out to simps who throw money at them hoping to be the "special" one. none of this came to a head until one of the simps felt aggrieved that their simping wasnt solo.
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Hitting on a mod is normal. She says no you move on. She gives interest you keep going. I don't need to know what was said or talked about in details as many things can be said at any given time that seem odd days or weeks later... call me daddy type of things in the moment are fun but weird when looked at weeks later.. if she is a employee vs a fan also changes things. I have no issues with celebrities having sex with fans as why not vs a employee who is stuck showing up to work and you have power over their income. There is a clear difference. If he was making sexual advances at a fan over and over again and she kept replying, taking his calls, calling him... well you can see in his mind she must like it as she keeps showing up around me. If she was a employee there is no flirting down ever. You can flirt up and see if there is interest but as a boss those under your rule are off limits.
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I hope that iskalls side comes out because I’m sick of RUclipsrs going on and acting guilty until proven innocent whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty takes two sides of a story to make a final judgement in my opinion.
He was confronted then resigned
That screams guilt to me
dc if a minor was involved or not i never really cared if the person was being a pedo or not for me like most crimes are the same and adultery is disgusting he should be jailed if adultery is against the law where he lives.adultery breaks the trust people have in you its the highest form of betrayal a person can do
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