I'd imagine these are nice cameras for my workshop to follow me around doing things etc. A decent optical zoom would be additional killer feature for this.
The shifting in the image also happens with some of the gopro cameras as well. I think it's just a streaming thing because it doesn't seem to happen with hdmi connection.
They're great little cameras. I'll have a follow-up review coming soon. And when you are ready to purchase, don't forget to use my 10% discount code 🙂 Thanks for watching!
Very good and level headed review . I've ordered three of these to augment my multicam set up. I'm particularly keen to see how they respond in a live music coverage set up, variable lighting and all.
12:00 I think webcam's are particularly used in (relatively) low light. Almost always indoors, and rarely in such a good lighting as yours. ISo1600 is very much welcome.
Fair enough. I do think the average user could benefit a lot from learning a bit about lighting. It doesn’t have to be much or expensive to make a significant difference. I’m also planning on doing some lighting videos. But, in any case, being able to use higher ISOs is definitely a pro to this camera and very useful. Thanks for watching!
@@RedFrameTech Absolutely agree. A nice lighting is much more affordable way to improve web/stream cam image quality than investing a fortune in a top-of-the-line camera.
Thank you very much for your perspective! i followed the crowdfunding and was close to ordering. got the obsbot tiny a month before these were announced. same conclusion. an awesome setup for webinars and other small but permanent studios.. not sure if i feel comft. putting those in my hard case.. got to reduce/rethink the setup then 🤔 i would love to see something like a base with the usual ports: HDMI (normal size), SDI, RJ45 (maybe POE?) very tempting...but since i'm already in the switcher world, i just ordered two of those BM micro cameras to extend the existing setup ... I would really love to see a Fullframe EVA ii... should not further think about any setup 🤐
I can see where you’re coming from. The Tail Air doesn’t fit every use case and the BM micro cameras are great from what I’ve seen. A base for the Tail Air with HDMI, SDI etc. is a great idea. Right now, there is a base available, but that’s only for extended battery life and 360 rotation. Thanks for watching!
I want to use it for sports with a firmware update of 120p frame rate!! You never said what the zoom max is and how well it tracks moving objects or how it will work!
I don’t think 120p is going to happen. Would be nice though. And I did show how the tracking works and that it works well. But there was a lot to cover in this review video. I might do a separate one on just the tracking once I received the production unit. Max zoom is 4x (digital).
@@RedFrameTech yeah so digital zoom is grainy and to what extent. The world ia crying for a good sports tracking camera from a distance. I can't believe it's 2023 with out a real one yet. Kinda mind blowing.
@@skyramafoil Agreed! I think it would be a very premium price though for a camera that can do what you want. I think the Tail Air does a good job for its price point
I have not had that happen. Were you recording to the SD card? And what was the ambient temperature? Have you reached out to OBSBOT? There’s a Tail Air Facebook group where you can tell them issues you find. They’re usually quite responsive in my experience.
I'd like to use this for streaming our billiard matches at our club. The contrast and quality is important as well as the ability to focus on the front and back of the table without blur. What are you thoughts? Do you think this would be suitable?
I think it would be suitable. Focussing is easy when using the app. Just tap the screen to focus. A few things to keep in mind though: 1 it’s digital zoom only, so image quality loss when zooming. 2 It needs light for good image quality. 3 If the subject is far enough away from the lens, most of the scene will be in focus anyway, because of the relatively small sensor and short focal length Thanks for watching!
For an NDI enabled, PTZ, tracking camera, it's actually one of the less expensive options on the market. If it's just for talking head kind of streaming without tracking/movement or NDI, yeah, just get a webcam
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@@bake.agencyAwesome! Thank you. I’ll have a follow up review coming soon
I'd imagine these are nice cameras for my workshop to follow me around doing things etc. A decent optical zoom would be additional killer feature for this.
Yeah, optical zoom would be great!
What an intro!
Having this channel makes me want to experiment 😄
The shifting in the image also happens with some of the gopro cameras as well.
I think it's just a streaming thing because it doesn't seem to happen with hdmi connection.
You may very well be right. Probably because of compression
Nice review - thanks for all the work you put into this!
Thank you very much sir! The appreciation is mutual. I have been watching your videos and streams for years!
If i could get the 3kit i would use in livestream conferences, or live music streaming or live radio show on the road. looks awesome.
They're great little cameras. I'll have a follow-up review coming soon.
And when you are ready to purchase, don't forget to use my 10% discount code 🙂
Thanks for watching!
Very good and level headed review . I've ordered three of these to augment my multicam set up. I'm particularly keen to see how they respond in a live music coverage set up, variable lighting and all.
Thanks!
Curious to hear how it goes. I have a live performance to shoot coming up as well where I’ll be using them.
Thanks for watching!
12:00 I think webcam's are particularly used in (relatively) low light. Almost always indoors, and rarely in such a good lighting as yours. ISo1600 is very much welcome.
Fair enough. I do think the average user could benefit a lot from learning a bit about lighting. It doesn’t have to be much or expensive to make a significant difference. I’m also planning on doing some lighting videos.
But, in any case, being able to use higher ISOs is definitely a pro to this camera and very useful. Thanks for watching!
@@RedFrameTech Absolutely agree. A nice lighting is much more affordable way to improve web/stream cam image quality than investing a fortune in a top-of-the-line camera.
Thank you very much for your perspective! i followed the crowdfunding and was close to ordering. got the obsbot tiny a month before these were announced. same conclusion.
an awesome setup for webinars and other small but permanent studios.. not sure if i feel comft. putting those in my hard case.. got to reduce/rethink the setup then 🤔
i would love to see something like a base with the usual ports: HDMI (normal size), SDI, RJ45 (maybe POE?)
very tempting...but since i'm already in the switcher world, i just ordered two of those BM micro cameras to extend the existing setup ...
I would really love to see a Fullframe EVA ii... should not further think about any setup 🤐
I can see where you’re coming from. The Tail Air doesn’t fit every use case and the BM micro cameras are great from what I’ve seen.
A base for the Tail Air with HDMI, SDI etc. is a great idea. Right now, there is a base available, but that’s only for extended battery life and 360 rotation.
Thanks for watching!
I’ll be using it for BTS. Nice video
Great intro !!
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Thanks for watching!
@@RedFrameTech very professional.
Thank you.
love the vid i will be getting one for my ch.
Thanks!
If you use my discount code you’ll get 10% off 🙂
I want to use it for sports with a firmware update of 120p frame rate!! You never said what the zoom max is and how well it tracks moving objects or how it will work!
I don’t think 120p is going to happen. Would be nice though.
And I did show how the tracking works and that it works well. But there was a lot to cover in this review video. I might do a separate one on just the tracking once I received the production unit.
Max zoom is 4x (digital).
@@RedFrameTech yeah so digital zoom is grainy and to what extent. The world ia crying for a good sports tracking camera from a distance. I can't believe it's 2023 with out a real one yet. Kinda mind blowing.
@@skyramafoil Agreed! I think it would be a very premium price though for a camera that can do what you want. I think the Tail Air does a good job for its price point
i wait my Tail Air package ... :-)
Awesome!
It seems to over heat and shut down after 3 to 5 hours of recording. What is shuting it down and will not restart so I assume it is a heat issue.
I have not had that happen. Were you recording to the SD card? And what was the ambient temperature?
Have you reached out to OBSBOT? There’s a Tail Air Facebook group where you can tell them issues you find. They’re usually quite responsive in my experience.
What the field of view of tail air
It has a 23mm ff equivalent lens, so I believe that would be around 75 degrees fov
I'd like to use this for streaming our billiard matches at our club. The contrast and quality is important as well as the ability to focus on the front and back of the table without blur. What are you thoughts? Do you think this would be suitable?
I think it would be suitable. Focussing is easy when using the app. Just tap the screen to focus.
A few things to keep in mind though:
1 it’s digital zoom only, so image quality loss when zooming.
2 It needs light for good image quality.
3 If the subject is far enough away from the lens, most of the scene will be in focus anyway, because of the relatively small sensor and short focal length
Thanks for watching!
Do these come with a good return policy if they dont work well in the studio? I am very curious on these.
As far as I know, yes. And technical support has been very good so far.
www.obsbot.com/static/docs/en/policy/after-sales-policy.html#general-terms
Can it record and stream simultaneously?
Depending on the mode it’s in, yes
Can you connect wirelessly to obs ?
Yes. Easiest way to do that is via NDI
@@RedFrameTech switching from camera to camera in obs is that pretty easy ? Or does show all cameras at once ?
@@YoungWiZdomthe switching is more of an obs thing. You can set the cameras up however you like in obs
For streaming cam it is too expensive, for cam to make nice videos- too bad quality. Conclusion--what for it?
For an NDI enabled, PTZ, tracking camera, it's actually one of the less expensive options on the market. If it's just for talking head kind of streaming without tracking/movement or NDI, yeah, just get a webcam
476 € for streaming cam? No way Rosay!
Like I said