Some people are providing helpful advice. Others aren't helping the situation at all. He could have done some things different, but overall it looks like he got the job done well enough for it to work. Life is a learning curve and there's always plenty more to know how to do.
I'll will be laying a slab under my house tomorrow- my first time with this sort of work. this video has helped me by giving me confidence on dealing with finishing it. this video is valuable to me. thanks.
Check out Odell complete concrete for better example this guy did it the hard way, Odell had several videos where he pours slabs, you can tamp doing the pour as you screed, not as shown here.
I'm a second generation concrete finisher and have been placing and finishing for a little over 10 years and I am just going to say every bit of that is wrong. Always pour wet enough that you can work it but not to wet because it weakens the strength of the concrete. Tap the forms beforw yoy screed or do anything for that matter while its still wet. After screeding your slab flat throw that crap you were tamping with in a dumpster take your bull float and run it opposite way you screed so that you get it flat and work the board lines out and push the cream where needed not in the same direction you screed. Then fix your edges with a mag. Use a 4' Fresno to slick it and then touch up your edges not try to board something that big with a 12" steel square trowel. And never hold your trowel at that high of an angle. Always low. You don't need to keep a broom finish wet for 7 days. Typical concrete is normally almost 3000 psi within 24 hrs
Thank you I’m a union journeyman finisher and I was thinking the same thing we never do anything this guy did for one it should be flat off the screed and second we vibrate any edges or columns or anything else that would need vibrated and we use trowel machines to finish and we never keep it wet for 7 days lol the only thing he did right was kneel on them boards but didn’t trowel right I can hear the chatter he was leaving behind
Did this how to video honestly start with him watering down An already Struck off Slab? The holes hes putting in with the Hand and Bull float. Call this guy puddles
I both have finished concrete and now drive a concrete truck. I never seen anyone do concrete like this. Both union and non-union. You couldn't use this slab for a trailer.
Read some of the comments sorry people treat you like that I'm an old concrete guy I can tell you worked hard are trying to do the best job you can but you turned out good the more you do it the more tricks you learn yes used to trowels get a pair of aluminum kneeboards hit it a couple times Peach Pass will take you about 15 minutes 2 when capping your forms 2 not get honeycomb do it right after you pour when you did it it was too late the mud was too hard same with camping do it right after you pour and fill your holes from your boots by filling the holes with your boots you waited too long in the mud was too hard those are just some tricks you learn hope this was helpful from an old concrete guy
This is more of a home help kind of video, this guy does not do this for a living that much is obvious, he's the kinda guy that does his own repairs and builds at home, but is 100% not an expert, he makes a heck of a lot more work for himself.
If I was your friend ... i wouldn't have helped you either. you would have work the shit out of me and everyone else for nothing. don't worry though this slab will never last
I'll comment on this one too. Get mad if you want. But all these comments should teach you something. If you are not a pro, don't put up instructional videos online.
Bud you tried like hell coming from a 4th generation concrete finisher you really tried your best but next time have a couple extra hands to help rake while u rod do not use jitter bug the new chemicals we have in concrete today theres no need for jitter bug just fill while rodding and u can always tell a green horn by how he hold his trowl lol turn the trowl around grab the handle backwards u have more control and leverage by grabbing the trowl backwards good luck brother
His troweling aggravated the shit outta me I wanted to take it from him through the phone and tell go clean tools and find that sky hook until 5:00 kmsl
never spray water on top of uncured concrete ! bad info here ! if this is to be exposed to the elements I give it about 1 year before it starts Spaulding ! thanks for showing people how to not do a foundation !
my neighbor is a foreman at teichert concrete. he sprayed water on his driveway religiously in the week after it was poured...during curing. It still looks great. edit: oh and by the way, it's "spalling"
@The bomb no your wrong water is not the cure. Wow you know nothing it will cause Spaulding if you place water on top of already wet concrete. You buy what is called curing compound and you spray that on top of the finished concrete. And then after 28 days the concrete is at its strongest and will only continue to cure and get stronger as time goes on.
If it is too hot outside, concrete can cure too fast and overheat. It is a chemical reaction that causes heat. Especially in Alabama during the summer months, we will pour in the morning and by the afternoon the concrete has set up enough where we put sprinklers on to cool the concrete off. If concrete is not cooled off it can cause it to crack and weaken. But we do it on slab pours.
Wow,,,this Guy shouldn be aloud to post somthing like that,,,,First trowing water on the slab is wrong, there is good chance of scalling,,,,Passing the bull float over and over is wrong too,,,use you bull float to hide the stone from the concrete, level your slab and get some Cream out,,,,ounce it s all done,,,Waiting time, then you go on with a hand float and 20 inches trowel to finish it,,,,,
Got to be the worst and long winded way to lay concrete ever, and the set up of shutters why are the supports sticking up above the edge of the shutters preventing you being able to screed and tamp, and the hole you filled lol, I HOPE THIS IS NOT YOUR DAY JOB! check out Odells complete concrete this guy knows concrete!
WOW ANOTHER BAD VIDEO FLOAT USED WRONG AND ALL THOSE VOIDS IN THE CONCRED ARE FROM HIM NOT SCREEDING IT CORRECTLY OR WALKING ON IT LIKE A DING DONG. LABORS SHOULD NOT DO JOBS ON THEIR OWN THEY NEED A FOREMAN OVERSING THE JOB!!! SMH
,,I think it would be better next time if you skipped the jitterbug,,,,and bull floated earlier you would be able to work it and fix the highs and lows,,,and vibrate the forms when you put it in, not once it sets up...alot of homeowners wouldn't even have tried it, good to see your willing to...good luck with your future projects
its not even funny how wrong this is, as soon as you screed you should bull float over it. that hand tamping bullshit makes no sense. moral of the story, pour at a workable slump and know how to use your tools
I have always consolidated the concrete along the forms by using a vibrator or, with even better results, jabbing it thoroughly (you can feel when it is mixed) with a stick or shovel. I found that to be much more effective. I see some criticism of the jitter-bug method of finishing, but it works really well for lower slump mixes.
your slab has lots of ruts because you made them with your boots at the beginning you should have made the mix wetter that way the concretye would literally find its own level tamping lightly would leave the concrete nice and level you have worked hard for nothing
I have no idea about any of this. Never worked in construction, never even built anything really. And yet, here I am, fascinated by both the video and the comments where everyone is saying this is wrong!
Also, broom finishes(video point 10:44 min.) are exterior finishes only. You need address IBC so any: would be , bs, get rich quick, scammers, etc. aren't taking peoples money and leaving them with shit to deal with. facebook.com/WilliamsConstServices/?ref=br_rs
George Greb don't know where to start. could've poured it just little wetter- waited too long jitter bug or tamp it then try and bullfloat it. would not have had holes to fill if he would have jitterbugged it sooner. when finishing the floor he should rub it out with a mag float before running the trowel over the floor. rubbing it with a float will bring the cream up to give the trowel something to finish He should use a larger trowel - I used 18 in trowel for 20 years on most floors only used a smaller one on steps. he probably left a lot of chatter marks. needs to learn how to move his knee boards. should finish on both sides then front of himself. if you learn how to move your knee boards. you could have that floor finished in 15 min and have it it like a piece of glass. takes time to learn how to finish but once you do it's not hard. he worked way to hard on that project. also it shouldn't matter what kind of use the floor is getting. should always be the best you can give. he mentioned he finishes according to the usethe floor gets not good way to do it
George Greb nothing like this, screed then bullfloat then leave it the fuck alone until it finishes bleeding. Work all that water back in and it will be weak as shit and peel and craze. Guy is as stupid as they come, that "slab" is junk and it was braced like a child anyway. Great work! But what do I know, pour a floor a day and live off of it, when I say you look like you should be in jail it's probably just me
Excellent series and detail. Thank you for taking the time to post. You made mentioned of the chemistry, measurements, formulas and above and beyond just pouring and watching the finish product. Probably the best video on You Tube for Concrete from start to finish... Great job.
Some people are providing helpful advice. Others aren't helping the situation at all. He could have done some things different, but overall it looks like he got the job done well enough for it to work. Life is a learning curve and there's always plenty more to know how to do.
I'll will be laying a slab under my house tomorrow- my first time with this sort of work. this video has helped me by giving me confidence on dealing with finishing it. this video is valuable to me. thanks.
Tell the plant to send you an 8 inch slump add you a shit ton of water mix it good and let it flow lol
Check out Odell complete concrete for better example this guy did it the hard way, Odell had several videos where he pours slabs, you can tamp doing the pour as you screed, not as shown here.
Totally destroyed the slab after tamping stiff mud.
Im an average concrete finisher. This guy makes me look like a fucking god
😂😂 to avoid honey comb you have to tap it way before he did
He almost had honey combs on top of his slab smh. Concrete don't wait for no one lol
I'm a second generation concrete finisher and have been placing and finishing for a little over 10 years and I am just going to say every bit of that is wrong. Always pour wet enough that you can work it but not to wet because it weakens the strength of the concrete. Tap the forms beforw yoy screed or do anything for that matter while its still wet. After screeding your slab flat throw that crap you were tamping with in a dumpster take your bull float and run it opposite way you screed so that you get it flat and work the board lines out and push the cream where needed not in the same direction you screed. Then fix your edges with a mag. Use a 4' Fresno to slick it and then touch up your edges not try to board something that big with a 12" steel square trowel. And never hold your trowel at that high of an angle. Always low. You don't need to keep a broom finish wet for 7 days. Typical concrete is normally almost 3000 psi within 24 hrs
Joshua Atkins spot on!
Thank you I’m a union journeyman finisher and I was thinking the same thing we never do anything this guy did for one it should be flat off the screed and second we vibrate any edges or columns or anything else that would need vibrated and we use trowel machines to finish and we never keep it wet for 7 days lol the only thing he did right was kneel on them boards but didn’t trowel right I can hear the chatter he was leaving behind
Nice job soaking it down before you finish, real A+ work there buddy
What did I just watch this guy is doing everything all wrong lol
Gustavo Lopez yes I did! I wouldn’t hire this guy to pass me bags of Quikcrete.
Did this how to video honestly start with him watering down An already Struck off Slab? The holes hes putting in with the Hand and Bull float. Call this guy puddles
His knee boards still have the new sticker on top lol
I both have finished concrete and now drive a concrete truck. I never seen anyone do concrete like this. Both union and non-union. You couldn't use this slab for a trailer.
Read some of the comments sorry people treat you like that I'm an old concrete guy I can tell you worked hard are trying to do the best job you can but you turned out good the more you do it the more tricks you learn yes used to trowels get a pair of aluminum kneeboards hit it a couple times Peach Pass will take you about 15 minutes 2 when capping your forms 2 not get honeycomb do it right after you pour when you did it it was too late the mud was too hard same with camping do it right after you pour and fill your holes from your boots by filling the holes with your boots you waited too long in the mud was too hard those are just some tricks you learn hope this was helpful from an old concrete guy
This is more of a home help kind of video, this guy does not do this for a living that much is obvious, he's the kinda guy that does his own repairs and builds at home, but is 100% not an expert, he makes a heck of a lot more work for himself.
If anyone is watching this to learn how to finish concrete please don't follow these steps seems like he just learned how
It's gonna take like 3 weeks to dry... to be on the safe side.. I'll let it dry 4 weeks...
Great job!
if you can't do that while placing and not screed, you might as well as find another job bud.
How Not to Build a Slab Foundation
There's no way that's even remotely flat..
wow, this is only good to show how NOT to do it
Hitting the side is a little late
If I was your friend ... i wouldn't have helped you either. you would have work the shit out of me and everyone else for nothing. don't worry though this slab will never last
I'll comment on this one too. Get mad if you want. But all these comments should teach you something. If you are not a pro, don't put up instructional videos online.
Thank you people really underestimate concrete and it's an expensive mistake
no clue how to finish concrete
Ya I do if for a living.. this guy is way off LOL
Michael is right.
You didn’t even Fresno it? Bro, do you even finish?
These comments are hilarious. Poor guy.
some people are dumb and some actually prove it by making a video !!
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Bud you tried like hell coming from a 4th generation concrete finisher you really tried your best but next time have a couple extra hands to help rake while u rod do not use jitter bug the new chemicals we have in concrete today theres no need for jitter bug just fill while rodding and u can always tell a green horn by how he hold his trowl lol turn the trowl around grab the handle backwards u have more control and leverage by grabbing the trowl backwards good luck brother
His troweling aggravated the shit outta me I wanted to take it from him through the phone and tell go clean tools and find that sky hook until 5:00 kmsl
I want an update lol
Buy some sliders bro and used a funny trowel. Come on.
never spray water on top of uncured concrete ! bad info here ! if this is to be exposed to the elements I give it about 1 year before it starts Spaulding ! thanks for showing people how to not do a foundation !
my neighbor is a foreman at teichert concrete. he sprayed water on his driveway religiously in the week after it was poured...during curing.
It still looks great.
edit: oh and by the way, it's "spalling"
Float pole not long enough . I was also told adding water weakens the concrete.
Adding water to concrete weakens it
@The bomb no your wrong water is not the cure. Wow you know nothing it will cause Spaulding if you place water on top of already wet concrete. You buy what is called curing compound and you spray that on top of the finished concrete. And then after 28 days the concrete is at its strongest and will only continue to cure and get stronger as time goes on.
If it is too hot outside, concrete can cure too fast and overheat. It is a chemical reaction that causes heat. Especially in Alabama during the summer months, we will pour in the morning and by the afternoon the concrete has set up enough where we put sprinklers on to cool the concrete off. If concrete is not cooled off it can cause it to crack and weaken. But we do it on slab pours.
Lol...one handed finisher...half pay...use your hand float to lean on... anyway this guy is fired
He means well...
Wow,,,this Guy shouldn be aloud to post somthing like that,,,,First trowing water on the slab is wrong, there is good chance of scalling,,,,Passing the bull float over and over is wrong too,,,use you bull float to hide the stone from the concrete, level your slab and get some Cream out,,,,ounce it s all done,,,Waiting time, then you go on with a hand float and 20 inches trowel to finish it,,,,,
Stop walking on it. I see wholes every where.
Got to be the worst and long winded way to lay concrete ever, and the set up of shutters why are the supports sticking up above the edge of the shutters preventing you being able to screed and tamp, and the hole you filled lol, I HOPE THIS IS NOT YOUR DAY JOB! check out Odells complete concrete this guy knows concrete!
WOW ANOTHER BAD VIDEO FLOAT USED WRONG AND ALL THOSE VOIDS IN THE CONCRED ARE FROM HIM NOT SCREEDING IT CORRECTLY OR WALKING ON IT LIKE A DING DONG. LABORS SHOULD NOT DO JOBS ON THEIR OWN THEY NEED A FOREMAN OVERSING THE JOB!!! SMH
Worse than a rookie concrete laborer nvm a finisher. Vibrate during your pour not when it's hard as a rock
No handles on the bow float what a noob.
,,I think it would be better next time if you skipped the jitterbug,,,,and bull floated earlier you would be able to work it and fix the highs and lows,,,and vibrate the forms when you put it in, not once it sets up...alot of homeowners wouldn't even have tried it, good to see your willing to...good luck with your future projects
this guy is not to be taken seriously
its not even funny how wrong this is, as soon as you screed you should bull float over it. that hand tamping bullshit makes no sense. moral of the story, pour at a workable slump and know how to use your tools
You have no idea how to finish a concrete slab water buddy water u cant work like that
Didnt have to walk out after you put the concrete in.you could of worked it in with thw bull float..just saying.
This guy is a clown
I have always consolidated the concrete along the forms by using a vibrator or, with even better results, jabbing it thoroughly (you can feel when it is mixed) with a stick or shovel. I found that to be much more effective. I see some criticism of the jitter-bug method of finishing, but it works really well for lower slump mixes.
your slab has lots of ruts because you made them with your boots at the beginning you should have made the mix wetter that way the concretye would literally find its own level tamping lightly would leave the concrete nice and level you have worked hard for nothing
my god it getsworse towards the end
LOL
Worst finishing video I've EVER SEEN!!! DO NOT DO THIS!
Try watching a "how to", rather than making one
He needs some helpers. He's losing it.
Not bad for a beginner, but no real concrete layer would do it this way
Wonder where his machines at
I have no idea about any of this. Never worked in construction, never even built anything really. And yet, here I am, fascinated by both the video and the comments where everyone is saying this is wrong!
You should’ve tamped that thing 30 minutes ago. Plus the mud was way to dry. It’s going to crack within a year..........
You should invest in a fiberglass float. Much easier to work with and it brings the cream up.
Excellent simple little tutorial on finishing concrete, great work man, thanks 👍
Nothing about this is right 🙄🙄🙄 don't listen to any of this LOLOL
Thank you so much for your tips and calculations. I learned a lot.
Should be using sliders not kneeboards
Also, broom finishes(video point 10:44 min.) are exterior finishes only. You need address IBC so any: would be , bs, get rich quick, scammers, etc. aren't taking peoples money and leaving them with shit to deal with. facebook.com/WilliamsConstServices/?ref=br_rs
Jesus that's a packed slump
Wtf is this guy doing?
this is not how u pour or finish concrete
Michael Stensgard then why don't you enlighten us to your vast wisdom
George Greb don't know where to start. could've poured it just little wetter- waited too long jitter bug or tamp it then try and bullfloat it. would not have had holes to fill if he would have jitterbugged it sooner. when finishing the floor he should rub it out with a mag float before running the trowel over the floor. rubbing it with a float will bring the cream up to give the trowel something to finish He should use a larger trowel - I used 18 in trowel for 20 years on most floors only used a smaller one on steps. he probably left a lot of chatter marks. needs to learn how to move his knee boards. should finish on both sides then front of himself. if you learn how to move your knee boards. you could have that floor finished in 15 min and have it it like a piece of glass. takes time to learn how to finish but once you do it's not hard. he worked way to hard on that project. also it shouldn't matter what kind of use the floor is getting. should always be the best you can give. he mentioned he finishes according to the usethe floor gets not good way to do it
The fact of the matter is, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
George Greb nothing like this, screed then bullfloat then leave it the fuck alone until it finishes bleeding. Work all that water back in and it will be weak as shit and peel and craze. Guy is as stupid as they come, that "slab" is junk and it was braced like a child anyway. Great work!
But what do I know, pour a floor a day and live off of it, when I say you look like you should be in jail it's probably just me
Larry Iwema Very informative, you don't have a how to video do you? Or one you'd recommend, with useful information.
Excellent series and detail. Thank you for taking the time to post. You made mentioned of the chemistry, measurements, formulas and above and beyond just pouring and watching the finish product. Probably the best video on You Tube for Concrete from start to finish... Great job.
Carlos Joel Garcia no
LOL this guy is a turkey. Worked twice as hard for a worse product.