It's the famous soprano Jane Merey singing la Valse Rose. Amazing high Eflat subito at 2:39. She got her beautiful technique from Rosine Laborde and Carlotta Patti, 2 XIXth century legendary singers.
Fascinating. One can only imagine the excitement engendered by the appearance of this technology at the time. The engineerng is amazing to see even now.
bobskie321 All Pathé Centre-start discs and all but the late rim-start types had vertically (hill & dale) modulated grooves. This was a way of circumnavigating the Berliner disc patents owned by The Gramophone Company.
No one seems to notice that the sound box on this unit is facing the groves on the record and not turned at a 90% angle, It's because the groves in this record are cut "up and down" not "left and right" like a modern record.
Pathe records can be played with a steel needle somewhat. but, you need to turn the soundbox facing forward like pathe, so it doesn't ruin it. Try it at your own risk.
There are multiple problems playing these on a modern turntable. First, these inside start Pathe records play at 90 or more rpm; some go as high as 120! Second, the grooves are vertically cut. This is OK, because cross wiring the cartridge and playing in mono will work fairly well. The real problem is that the grooves are both wide and relatively flat. The sound box shown in the video uses a sapphire stylus in the shape of a wide, round ball, and that works well enough to sit in the groove and fill it. You could possibly make a modern stylus to do this but it would be challenging. The grooves are so shallow that even vintage equipment designed to play them will skate across the record if the playing surface is not perfectly level.
@@notthatyouasked6656 Hi! Thank you very much for your reply! Since I posted my question I could experienced it by myself after buying two Pathé Saphyr records and trying to play one of them on my modern turntable. It has been a real failure! Indeed, the needle of the turntable kept sliding on the record, so I didn't play the other one. Later I've found on Instagram a 78 rpm/shellac records community in which people gave me advices and, indeed, playing this kind of records on a modern basic turntable can damage these records. So now I'm saving to buy a much better material.
@@mithrasenkidu9423 It's not likely that you would damage them on a modern turntable with just a few grams tracking weight. You might want to also check out the Talking Machine Forum on the web, also the Antique Phonograph Society's forum. Nice people there will be happy to give you advice on how you can play your records properly. Happy collecting!
Hi @REVOX MANIA, I was wondering if you would permit us to use this footage (or another of your Gramophone videos) for an online theatre play we are doing this month? Of course we would include your name in the credits and a link in the description. Would this be possible?
Back when this record was made there wasn't really an agreed upon standard that everyone followed, and Pathé was particularly deviant. Their records would be cut vertically and also start at the centre of the record, and that's just scratching the surface of the weird products they made.
Tachtig toers 80 TOERS, my job was making phonographs, my name is Guido Claerhout, I live in Belgium? I am an expert in repairing those machines? Reply
What's your suggestion on purchasing these machines I have some 78 rpm vinyls that I want to play. Please respond asap, also are the portable ones are good too?
1- 78s are not made of vinyl, they are made of shellac. 2- This machine will only play vertical cut records. They will not play regular lateral cut 78s. 3- Portable wind-up phonographs, you mean? They are fine for listening to 78s; however, I recommend playing them back electrically on a turntable hooked up to an amplifier.
So with that, what is a vertical and lateral cut? I don't really understand. How do I hook up my 34/48 rpm electronic record player to play my 78 rpm? What is Shellac? I apologize for asking so many questions.
Armani Nguon 1- Lateral cut means the stylus rides in the record grooves side-to-side. Vertical cut means the stylus rides the grooves of the record up and down. 2- There's not a 78rpm option? 3- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellac
Armani Nguon most players will have a 78 option and if not you're just out of luck and would need a new player. Shellac records are very fragile as well and break very easily, more so than glass. If you drop one it's usually gone forever. Edison and pathe records require special players. However, if you don't really look most of what you will find is 40s big band and country records, at least in my experience. I don't collect those and really go out of my way to find early ones, so pathe and edisons shouldn't usually come your way. However if they do NEVER play them on a regular victrola. Most 78s don't play from the inside out either. These are just rare ones from the 1900s and early 1910s
Slightly too fast. You can feel it when she makes her announcement at the beginning. Besides, her voice is too high at the end, like a cat screaming when I stepped on its tail.
It's the famous soprano Jane Merey singing la Valse Rose. Amazing high Eflat subito at 2:39.
She got her beautiful technique from Rosine Laborde and Carlotta Patti, 2 XIXth century legendary singers.
Jane Merey Amazing !!!
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
- The singer
Fascinating. One can only imagine the excitement engendered by the appearance of this technology at
the time. The engineerng is amazing to see even now.
Love this. Thanks so much for uploading it. It is very soothing to listen to. I wish they still sold these today.
I to :)
+Darlos HD You do?
Caramba, bicho velho!! Que máquina antiga fantástica!!
E canta em francês!!!
Parabéns pelo vídeo!!
Was für ein traumhaft wundervoll einzigartig außergewöhnlich schönes Gerät! So ein super tolles hätte ich auch gerne in meiner Sammlung
0:40 The way reproducer is mounted it appears it's intended for vertically cut grooves.
bobskie321 All Pathé Centre-start discs and all but the late rim-start types had vertically (hill & dale) modulated grooves. This was a way of circumnavigating the Berliner disc patents owned by The Gramophone Company.
not a bad sound at all considering
lovely machine, on my want list!
Mine too
02:41 a wine glass breaks
01:20 is where I first spit a little wine. She was just warming up. Then my glass shattered. ;-)
Soprano singer: *does a really high note
Wine glasses: I'm going to kill myself.
Very nice plays the record from the center outward like a CD
nice gramophone! :)
I never knew these played from the inside out!
most don't, this one is pretty cool for that
Typical for Pathé phonographs
magnifique disque Pathé à saphir
I wanted to see this for days weeks month and years to see this gramophone
a good video.i am happy to see ancient things.
These things are like magic, so fascinating
No one seems to notice that the sound box on this unit is facing the groves on the record and not turned at a 90% angle, It's because the groves in this record are cut "up and down" not "left and right" like a modern record.
Yep... the "hill and dale" modulation ...that machine will play Edison records nicely, too.
can I use this videofor my film?
Nice gramophone!
What are these kinds of songs called?genre?
Pickering governor used in this gramophone
Can the footage be used for commercial video?
Olá! O disco Pathé precisa ser reproduzido somente com agulha de ponta especial (safira) ou aceita também a agulha comum de metal? Um grande abraço
Com safira.
Pathe records can be played with a steel needle somewhat. but, you need to turn the soundbox facing forward like pathe, so it doesn't ruin it. Try it at your own risk.
Also, you can put candle wax on the record while it's spinning to reduce wear, I already tried it. but, it does the job.
Can I use this for my project? It would help.. thank you so much
Can you play this kind of records on a current turntable? I wonder.
There are multiple problems playing these on a modern turntable. First, these inside start Pathe records play at 90 or more rpm; some go as high as 120! Second, the grooves are vertically cut. This is OK, because cross wiring the cartridge and playing in mono will work fairly well. The real problem is that the grooves are both wide and relatively flat. The sound box shown in the video uses a sapphire stylus in the shape of a wide, round ball, and that works well enough to sit in the groove and fill it. You could possibly make a modern stylus to do this but it would be challenging. The grooves are so shallow that even vintage equipment designed to play them will skate across the record if the playing surface is not perfectly level.
@@notthatyouasked6656 Hi! Thank you very much for your reply! Since I posted my question I could experienced it by myself after buying two Pathé Saphyr records and trying to play one of them on my modern turntable. It has been a real failure! Indeed, the needle of the turntable kept sliding on the record, so I didn't play the other one. Later I've found on Instagram a 78 rpm/shellac records community in which people gave me advices and, indeed, playing this kind of records on a modern basic turntable can damage these records. So now I'm saving to buy a much better material.
@@mithrasenkidu9423 It's not likely that you would damage them on a modern turntable with just a few grams tracking weight. You might want to also check out the Talking Machine Forum on the web, also the Antique Phonograph Society's forum. Nice people there will be happy to give you advice on how you can play your records properly. Happy collecting!
Beutyful play !
Amo tudo isso ...tudo que for antigo ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Eu também amo.
may i use this video for my content?
Hi @REVOX MANIA, I was wondering if you would permit us to use this footage (or another of your Gramophone videos) for an online theatre play we are doing this month? Of course we would include your name in the credits and a link in the description. Would this be possible?
Amazing I am very impressed know it's thank you g
Merci c'est émouvant. J'ai deux ou trois disques de la marque mais hélas très usés.
I LOVE THIS SONG, what's the name of the disc?
i don't know
La valse rose Sing by Jane Merley
Why on this particular record is it starting where a typical record usually ends?
Back when this record was made there wasn't really an agreed upon standard that everyone followed, and Pathé was particularly deviant. Their records would be cut vertically and also start at the centre of the record, and that's just scratching the surface of the weird products they made.
Tachtig toers 80 TOERS, my job was making phonographs, my name is Guido Claerhout, I live in Belgium? I am an expert in repairing those machines?
Reply
why does it play backwards
It's not playing in reverse, pathe records (not all of them) are centere-start
Ada Jones?
Can I use sections of this video to make my website commercial? I will give the due credits. Awaiting your reply.
i love gramaphones
Name of the song?
not a bad sound at all for 78, so old
Good video bro
Who is this wonderful singer? What's her name?
Jane Merley
What's your suggestion on purchasing these machines I have some 78 rpm vinyls that I want to play. Please respond asap, also are the portable ones are good too?
1- 78s are not made of vinyl, they are made of shellac.
2- This machine will only play vertical cut records. They will not play regular lateral cut 78s.
3- Portable wind-up phonographs, you mean? They are fine for listening to 78s; however, I recommend playing them back electrically on a turntable hooked up to an amplifier.
So with that, what is a vertical and lateral cut? I don't really understand. How do I hook up my 34/48 rpm electronic record player to play my 78 rpm? What is Shellac? I apologize for asking so many questions.
Armani Nguon
1- Lateral cut means the stylus rides in the record grooves side-to-side. Vertical cut means the stylus rides the grooves of the record up and down.
2- There's not a 78rpm option?
3- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellac
Armani Nguon most players will have a 78 option and if not you're just out of luck and would need a new player. Shellac records are very fragile as well and break very easily, more so than glass. If you drop one it's usually gone forever. Edison and pathe records require special players. However, if you don't really look most of what you will find is 40s big band and country records, at least in my experience. I don't collect those and really go out of my way to find early ones, so pathe and edisons shouldn't usually come your way. However if they do NEVER play them on a regular victrola. Most 78s don't play from the inside out either. These are just rare ones from the 1900s and early 1910s
Beautiful
Could someone tell me the song name
La Valse Rose by Jane Merey
If you don't know that.
@@digidoridvideos3672 thank you
@@maxwellgodwin6571 No problem
Look at that 78 rpm!
France language?
Real music!
I THINK THE VINYL IS OF 1986 ,,, IS WRITTEN ON THE VINYL..., MAY BE THE SONG WAS FROM 1906 AND IS RECORDED AGAIN.
its not a vinyl, its a pathe record from 1910 circa, the groove are vertical not lateral, and it can only be played by a pathe machine
1986 is the catalogue number
It's not Vinyl
what's playing?
Exaltasamba
HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR IT
2:39 Callas would love it!
Charles dos Santos Callas? Hahaha she wasn't even born at that time
Qual é o nome do disco
Slightly too fast. You can feel it when she makes her announcement at the beginning. Besides, her voice is too high at the end, like a cat screaming when I stepped on its tail.
Amazing
It's backwards... that's so bizarre.
Trovato ;-)))
Bravo
Meu sonho ter um desses
Tenho um pra vender
Gramofone
Se quiser entre em contato
Abraço de Barra do Piraí RJ 🇧🇷
A M A Z I N G
❤
Great! But too fast. 0,75 speed would be rather accurate i think
👏👏👏👏👏
I Love name n 6
蓄音機の生の音がたまらない
音源はCDプレーヤーに劣り
ますが良い音です
No gramophone, but phonographe
1:20 endless scream 0_0
Layers of Fear!!!!!!!!
Péter Tóth I find it creepy too LOOOL
Creepy???
Creepy Gramophone? ;)
MUITO LEGAL
Adoro
Grett.
Édith Piaf, I think.
Tivit180 No, Édith Giovanna Gassion (later Pills / Lamboukas), the sparrow "Piaf" was not even born! She lived 1915-61.
Roland, Sweden
It is Jane Mérey!!
I have permission to download your video
Çuán yo báĺé es tóy ý téŕeßáďá pŕéßíó¡¡¡¡
what,s playing?
in spotify the name of this song is "the needle drope"