It's really refreshing to see a RUclipsr acknowledge a past mistake with a brand deal like John did here with the cleco chameleon, hell even James Rolfe and Pat the NES punk avoid talking about their regrettable endorsement of the cheetahmen 2 Kickstarter that turned into a scam
Every time I see someone acquire one of these classic gaming brands, it's always an attempt at a quick cash grab with zero thought given to actually reviving the brand in a proper way. I understand John needs to be diplomatic here, so I'll just say that this ColecoVision Arcade is another shameless attempt at cashing in on nostalgia for a long dead brand. So tired of these charlatans.
I don't think they're all crooks. The poor guy who bought the Commodore brand years ago apparently really wanted to bring commodore back and died leaving a real mess for whatever was left of his business, which was a small family run business.
The product appears to be a custom-built MAME arcade cabinet featuring a ColecoVision logo sticker. The cabinet's design is unremarkable and would benefit from a unique aesthetic incorporating ColecoVision colors to create a strong visual impact. As-it stands now, it is quick vanilla. This product targets individuals seeking a pre-assembled MAME arcade machine for home use. The frontend software and emulators employed remain unclear. These elements must be original or properly licensed to avoid backlash from the retro gaming community.
Very few people will be able to afford this thing. I have been hoping for a ColecoVision collection to be released on gaming consoles. That would make more money, and it would be a lot cheaper to produce.
A Colecovision arcade machine sounds intriguing but that mock up is all wrong. 16:9 screen? six button control panel? When I think Colecovision, I think KEYPADS! Those are vital. You could do them I guess in software on screen, but not if this thing is well over $1000.
I know there’s production costs & licensing fees, etc. but in a perfect world for me (as an avid ColecoVision fan since it debut) I would love a retro ColecoVision console similar to the NES Classic. I wouldn’t hesitate buying it if it existed. ColecoVision was a game changer for me despite its controller flaws.
Holy Awesome! Looks Sweet, L0rd knows I cant Afford One LOL My 3 Older Cuz had Everything, but We Played their Coleco & SMURF Rescue Constantly. I Loved that thing over my 7800
I still have my ColecoVision from the 80's I lost a couple games, but I still have Cosmic Avenger. My favorite 80's arcade game was Moon Patrol if I remember correctly Coleco had that game in their collection. I can't remember however it was 42 years ago. I can't believe how old I am.
Moon Patrol didn't come to the ColecoVision until Atarisoft made a (brilliant) port in 2014. There might have been a few prototypes, I have some prototype roms of it at least. But as far as I know there never was a full release back then. The ColecoVision is still my favorite console, the nostalgia and certainly it's estetics wins it over technical specs. The company I formed with my companion 13 years ago actually uses a font very resemblant of the ColecoVision font, just because I wanted to.
So, it's NOT a ColecoVision machine (no cartridge ports to play your original games), but rather a high quality, well built emulation machine that happens to have 40 original ColecoVision titles pre-loaded. USD $2300 + shipping. Basicially a competitor to the Rec-Room Masters machines (which include the cabinet and control deck, but require you to supply a monitor, speakers, and Raspberry Pi or PC).
At 8:10 i died laughing. I´m not married, but the way you have said it, was way too funny. Game on. EDIT: I was 1 year old when the ColecoVision was released in europe in 1983, but it was released at my birth year 1982.
The colecovision library, at the time, was INSANE. The DENSITY of great games is almost unmatched. Probbaly 80%% of the games were EXCELLENT. I beghed mom and dad for Coleco but they had "Already bought the Atari, why would I need a diffeeent machine? They thought of game mahcine as being like a vcr. If the old one worklks, ud ont buy a new one, they are all the same. Never did get one./ Thank god for emulatio so I was finally able to go b ack and replay Pickax Pete which I used to play at buddies house int he 80s
That’s outrageously priced which leads me to believe it will likely be bankrupted in no time. I very much doubt anyone is wanting to spend that sort of money on a Colecovision based arcade. 😅
i think the price on these is really high as well, if i wanted a full sized cab i would probably look at the AT Games Legends cabs which sell for around 600 bones.
They should have made a mini console instead. The one from atgames that came years ago can no longer be found brand new and it even wasn't hdmi enabled.
John, you do a great non-bias approach which is appreciated. The whole "negative views" stuff is getting old it seems for sure like a trend with video game channels right now.
I bought my Colecovision in 1983 from a friend for just $40 ( he got it for free from an arcade TV show) ...he was an arcade junkie and thought the Coleco was a toy compared to the arcades ...in a way he was right...but i got my "dream" console at the time super cheap !
Even if it was $200.. It wouldn't make sense IMO. The ColecoVision was a console.. Made to be played on a TV (CRT specifically). Not an LCD, and especially not a 16:9 widescreen. For $3,000 this is laughable. I love the ColecoVision. I grew up with it as my first console that I really connected with. I had the VCS, but the CV had arcade ports, which much better represented their arcade originals. I was also 9 when it hit, in 1982, and that Donkey Kong pack-in just sealed the deal. :) I have a few original ColecoVision consoles, and about 30 CIB games, and my current favorite way to experience the system is either on the Analogue Sg (Genesis FPGA console), along with an 8Bitdo M30 controller. Kevtris' CV port runs identically to original hardware, even supporting the SGM add-on. This looks great on a modern display when you have the scanlines dialed in just right. Better yet, I also play the CV FPGA core on the Analogue Pocket. It just looks insanely cool on the Pocket display, and I also have the Dock, so I can play it on a TV display. The new Wega (Trinitron) filter looks very similar to my Wega CRT, so that's a nice thing to have. There are many ways to play the ColecoVision these days. Sometimes the cheapest way is the best way, but play however you can and enjoy it. That's the main thing!
Most Colecovision cartridges are affordable. I’d prefer to use that money for the actual console along with a bunch of cartridges. You can probably get most of the entire Colecovision library for that money.
i dont think the colecovision name is actually that tarnished by the chameleon. i think if anything that hurt crowdfunding sites more. i think most people willing to buy an arcade machine probably understands it was someone just getting the license to use for a scam. when it comes to arcade machines in general i've never had the desire. i've never had the space and don't really want to blow 400 on a 1 up to play a handful of games when i can just buy an arcade stick and a poster. i'm more baffled by coleco releasing one because they never had arcade machines as far as i'm aware. its like buying a commodore 64 arcade machine. i'm not saying that its a bad product, but i'm just wondering if there's a better way to use this license. once again i don't really mean this as criticism because this really isn't for me
Some people somehow get MAD when price is too high. They shouldnt. I don/t care what anyone prices for anything, anyone can charge anything, and I can decide, hell no, too expensive , no way would I buy this.
I don't really get mad at high prices for luxury items, I just accept that I can't afford it and move on and if a good portion of people can't afford it and the company can't make a profit from it then the market will correct itself I suppose. It is what it is.
I think, dont compare this to a raspberri pi emulation. A more fair one, compare this to a nice custom designed generic cab, what that ought to cost for those that want a cab. They maybve add a couple hundred on top of that for the software/hardware they put inside. So a couple hundred on top of what a cab ought to cost, is what this ought to cost.
The folks who want it, can't afford it. The people who can afford it, don't want it. I love Colecovision, but it's hard to see this project going anywhere.
If they’re looking at the home arcade consumer, they’ve already shot themselves in the foot. Very few have room for full size machines, & even fewer have that kind of money for one item. And even fewer than that even know what a colecovision is nor are willing to play games that old (trust me I can’t get my kids interested in Atari even with a retron on a new tv).
How can they charge 4 or 5 times as much as Arcade 1up, but all you get is the same games from the ColecoVision Flashback? There is no way a consumer can justify spending this amount for a $35 Raspberry Pi emulator box.
Also they don't have a right-handed joystick. People who actually played Colecovision vision games back in the day mostly played with the joystick right handed. Even though the ColecoVision had ambidextrous joysticks most people played him like righty sticks. Talk about being inaccurate to history. Forcing left-handed joysticks.
That's true, but come on. You can buy a top of the line modern PC for a lot less that can play all the games that you want while an arcade machine for Coleco games is much more expensive.
Starts the video out stating he's not trashing a product then procedes to trash it.. 😂 You obviously haven't built anything before. $2300 is completely reasonable. If it is built as high quality as you claim then you have to pay for that. $500 will get you a trashcade 1up. You said you have a business major so you should know better. And yes we all know the economy sucks right now and nobody has the money to spend but that ain't this company's or products' fault. Maybe they should just sell it at a loss so the poor can play. Sounds like a familiar mantra... A little disappointed in you again John...
Adam was so breoken, such crap, this is a funnny ting, if u turned ON the adam, whle a data tape/software was int he tape player, it would magnetic erase the tape HAHAHAHAHHA
It's even worse than you imagine, the 40 games are the ColecoVision Flashback 40 games, which includes mostly filler, educational games, and some homebrew games, because At Games didn't want to spend the money to license the games people want to play.
It's really refreshing to see a RUclipsr acknowledge a past mistake with a brand deal like John did here with the cleco chameleon, hell even James Rolfe and Pat the NES punk avoid talking about their regrettable endorsement of the cheetahmen 2 Kickstarter that turned into a scam
Colecovison rules! I was 12 back in 1983 and got a paper route just to buy one. I still have it and all my games to this day.
I will be more interested in buying a CollectorVision Phoenix console, if you ever decide to make a new batch of them.
the adam was my family's first home pc. loved it.
I don't know why, but this comment makes past 8 year old me just a little jealous. 😜
Every time I see someone acquire one of these classic gaming brands, it's always an attempt at a quick cash grab with zero thought given to actually reviving the brand in a proper way. I understand John needs to be diplomatic here, so I'll just say that this ColecoVision Arcade is another shameless attempt at cashing in on nostalgia for a long dead brand. So tired of these charlatans.
I don't think they're all crooks. The poor guy who bought the Commodore brand years ago apparently really wanted to bring commodore back and died leaving a real mess for whatever was left of his business, which was a small family run business.
Need to see a game list but may be interested 🤔
The product appears to be a custom-built MAME arcade cabinet featuring a ColecoVision logo sticker. The cabinet's design is unremarkable and would benefit from a unique aesthetic incorporating ColecoVision colors to create a strong visual impact. As-it stands now, it is quick vanilla. This product targets individuals seeking a pre-assembled MAME arcade machine for home use. The frontend software and emulators employed remain unclear. These elements must be original or properly licensed to avoid backlash from the retro gaming community.
Very few people will be able to afford this thing. I have been hoping for a ColecoVision collection to be released on gaming consoles. That would make more money, and it would be a lot cheaper to produce.
A Colecovision arcade machine sounds intriguing but that mock up is all wrong. 16:9 screen? six button control panel? When I think Colecovision, I think KEYPADS! Those are vital. You could do them I guess in software on screen, but not if this thing is well over $1000.
I know there’s production costs
& licensing fees, etc. but in a perfect world for me (as an avid ColecoVision fan since it debut) I would love a retro ColecoVision console similar to the NES Classic. I wouldn’t hesitate buying it if it existed. ColecoVision was a game changer for me despite its controller flaws.
Buy a ColecoVison Flashback. It's the closest thing to what you describe
@@kyuchumimook thanks! Ive heard of it and will see it’s availability
Don't need an old, obsolete system as an arcade machine playing old, outdated software.
Why would you need a subwoofer for Coleco vision games?
They're nuts!🤪
Holy Awesome!
Looks Sweet, L0rd knows I cant Afford One LOL
My 3 Older Cuz had Everything, but We Played their Coleco & SMURF Rescue Constantly. I Loved that thing over my 7800
If the made a countercade that would spark my interest. I have no room for a full arcade
I want a bartop Nintendo playchoice 10 machine but I dont have that kind of money.
looks neat but like you said - that price point….
I still have my ColecoVision from the 80's I lost a couple games, but I still have Cosmic Avenger. My favorite 80's arcade game was Moon Patrol if I remember correctly Coleco had that game in their collection. I can't remember however it was 42 years ago. I can't believe how old I am.
Moon Patrol didn't come to the ColecoVision until Atarisoft made a (brilliant) port in 2014. There might have been a few prototypes, I have some prototype roms of it at least. But as far as I know there never was a full release back then.
The ColecoVision is still my favorite console, the nostalgia and certainly it's estetics wins it over technical specs. The company I formed with my companion 13 years ago actually uses a font very resemblant of the ColecoVision font, just because I wanted to.
Unfortunately this is out of my price range. I love ColecoVision too. Hopefully they continue to grow and expand so the price can go down
So, it's NOT a ColecoVision machine (no cartridge ports to play your original games), but rather a high quality, well built emulation machine that happens to have 40 original ColecoVision titles pre-loaded. USD $2300 + shipping. Basicially a competitor to the Rec-Room Masters machines (which include the cabinet and control deck, but require you to supply a monitor, speakers, and Raspberry Pi or PC).
At 8:10 i died laughing.
I´m not married, but the way you have said it, was way too funny.
Game on.
EDIT: I was 1 year old when the ColecoVision was released in europe in 1983, but it was released at my birth year 1982.
it is running a emulationstation default theme wonder what they are using inside and whos build
The colecovision library, at the time, was INSANE. The DENSITY of great games is almost unmatched. Probbaly 80%% of the games were EXCELLENT. I beghed mom and dad for Coleco but they had "Already bought the Atari, why would I need a diffeeent machine? They thought of game mahcine as being like a vcr. If the old one worklks, ud ont buy a new one, they are all the same. Never did get one./ Thank god for emulatio so I was finally able to go b ack and replay Pickax Pete which I used to play at buddies house int he 80s
Pickaxe Pete wasn't on the ColecoVision though😁 It was on the Odyssey 2 / Videopac. Great game though. Should've been on ColecoVision indeed.
That’s outrageously priced which leads me to believe it will likely be bankrupted in no time. I very much doubt anyone is wanting to spend that sort of money on a Colecovision based arcade. 😅
Damn dude I haven’t seen one of your videos in years. I had no idea you were still around! I was born in 81 too!
i think the price on these is really high as well, if i wanted a full sized cab i would probably look at the AT Games Legends cabs which sell for around 600 bones.
I'd probably make a cab myself, or learn how to. It would be a lot cheaper for sure.
This is obviously intended to play much more than Colecovision. The problem for me is that it comes preloaded with only 40 games.
They should have made a mini console instead. The one from atgames that came years ago can no longer be found brand new and it even wasn't hdmi enabled.
Well, I hope they can break even selling only 5-6 of these…
Since you're part owner of collectorvision why not do another Phoenix run?! 😉
Lucky for me I've still have my original colecovision and it still works
Why don't they concentrate on just making some kinda HDMI Colecevision that plays original carts? I can't imagine a single person buying this
John, you do a great non-bias approach which is appreciated. The whole "negative views" stuff is getting old it seems for sure like a trend with video game channels right now.
Insane price. These companies sure know how to milk the retro crowd dry...
I bought my Colecovision in 1983 from a friend for just $40 ( he got it for free from an arcade TV show) ...he was an arcade junkie and thought the Coleco was a toy compared to the arcades ...in a way he was right...but i got my "dream" console at the time super cheap !
Even if it was $200.. It wouldn't make sense IMO. The ColecoVision was a console.. Made to be played on a TV (CRT specifically). Not an LCD, and especially not a 16:9 widescreen. For $3,000 this is laughable.
I love the ColecoVision. I grew up with it as my first console that I really connected with. I had the VCS, but the CV had arcade ports, which much better represented their arcade originals. I was also 9 when it hit, in 1982, and that Donkey Kong pack-in just sealed the deal. :)
I have a few original ColecoVision consoles, and about 30 CIB games, and my current favorite way to experience the system is either on the Analogue Sg (Genesis FPGA console), along with an 8Bitdo M30 controller. Kevtris' CV port runs identically to original hardware, even supporting the SGM add-on. This looks great on a modern display when you have the scanlines dialed in just right. Better yet, I also play the CV FPGA core on the Analogue Pocket. It just looks insanely cool on the Pocket display, and I also have the Dock, so I can play it on a TV display. The new Wega (Trinitron) filter looks very similar to my Wega CRT, so that's a nice thing to have.
There are many ways to play the ColecoVision these days. Sometimes the cheapest way is the best way, but play however you can and enjoy it. That's the main thing!
$2900 with shipping doesn't seem like a lot to me, just sayin!
Most Colecovision cartridges are affordable. I’d prefer to use that money for the actual console along with a bunch of cartridges. You can probably get most of the entire Colecovision library for that money.
i dont think the colecovision name is actually that tarnished by the chameleon. i think if anything that hurt crowdfunding sites more. i think most people willing to buy an arcade machine probably understands it was someone just getting the license to use for a scam.
when it comes to arcade machines in general i've never had the desire. i've never had the space and don't really want to blow 400 on a 1 up to play a handful of games when i can just buy an arcade stick and a poster. i'm more baffled by coleco releasing one because they never had arcade machines as far as i'm aware. its like buying a commodore 64 arcade machine. i'm not saying that its a bad product, but i'm just wondering if there's a better way to use this license. once again i don't really mean this as criticism because this really isn't for me
maybe 850 range tops
The iiRcade did ColecoVision solid.
Will you ever bring the CollectorVision Phoenix console back?
That is epic!
Great video John
The Colecovision system is totally underrated.
Ladybug baby!
I have one.
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Seems like another case of cool product, but just costs too much.
Some people somehow get MAD when price is too high. They shouldnt. I don/t care what anyone prices for anything, anyone can charge anything, and I can decide, hell no, too expensive , no way would I buy this.
I don't really get mad at high prices for luxury items, I just accept that I can't afford it and move on and if a good portion of people can't afford it and the company can't make a profit from it then the market will correct itself I suppose. It is what it is.
If they even produce one and sell it, it will be better than the Amico.
3k for that no thanks
$2,200? What a joke. You can buy good condition original working arcade cabinets for less than half of that.
I think, dont compare this to a raspberri pi emulation. A more fair one, compare this to a nice custom designed generic cab, what that ought to cost for those that want a cab. They maybve add a couple hundred on top of that for the software/hardware they put inside. So a couple hundred on top of what a cab ought to cost, is what this ought to cost.
The folks who want it, can't afford it. The people who can afford it, don't want it. I love Colecovision, but it's hard to see this project going anywhere.
Show me it in real life Jon come on
If they’re looking at the home arcade consumer, they’ve already shot themselves in the foot. Very few have room for full size machines, & even fewer have that kind of money for one item. And even fewer than that even know what a colecovision is nor are willing to play games that old (trust me I can’t get my kids interested in Atari even with a retron on a new tv).
How can they charge 4 or 5 times as much as Arcade 1up, but all you get is the same games from the ColecoVision Flashback? There is no way a consumer can justify spending this amount for a $35 Raspberry Pi emulator box.
Also they don't have a right-handed joystick. People who actually played Colecovision vision games back in the day mostly played with the joystick right handed. Even though the ColecoVision had ambidextrous joysticks most people played him like righty sticks.
Talk about being inaccurate to history. Forcing left-handed joysticks.
Everyone knows that us gamers are the cheapest people on Earth😂
That's true, but come on. You can buy a top of the line modern PC for a lot less that can play all the games that you want while an arcade machine for Coleco games is much more expensive.
👍🏼👍🏼nice
O valor será de R$13.000,00........
Com R$5.000,00 dá pra montar um fliperama desse sussegado......
You can buy a top of the line PC for A LOT less than what you pay for that arcade machine. WOW.
Starts the video out stating he's not trashing a product then procedes to trash it.. 😂
You obviously haven't built anything before. $2300 is completely reasonable. If it is built as high quality as you claim then you have to pay for that. $500 will get you a trashcade 1up. You said you have a business major so you should know better. And yes we all know the economy sucks right now and nobody has the money to spend but that ain't this company's or products' fault. Maybe they should just sell it at a loss so the poor can play. Sounds like a familiar mantra...
A little disappointed in you again John...
Adam was so breoken, such crap, this is a funnny ting, if u turned ON the adam, whle a data tape/software was int he tape player, it would magnetic erase the tape HAHAHAHAHHA
Overpriced!!!! For emulation
40 games... whats the point, just use emulators coleco has so many great games.
It's even worse than you imagine, the 40 games are the ColecoVision Flashback 40 games, which includes mostly filler, educational games, and some homebrew games, because At Games didn't want to spend the money to license the games people want to play.
I'm sorry but how is this aimed at "hard core" fans when it doesn't replicate ANYTHING a ColecoVision was/is. This is really a fail...
What? No Driving Expansion Module??? Tsk, tsk, tsk…
2k I'm out. might have been in at $500 or lower Ridiculous pricepoint.
Haha this is dumb. I can play colecovision on my RetroPie and anbernic for free lol