I use 4 TP-Link powerline adapters, 2x 8port switches and numerous ethernet cables. Gives me the reliability I need after many WiFi problems. I hasten to add I'm not a gamer so no idea how my system would stand up with games loading.. J
I have Verizon fios gigabit internet so I use their Quantum AC Router and their Actiontec AC extender. I owned them outright no fees and the extender is made with their router so it works similar to mesh router. Verizon have there own mesh routers now with WPA3 security but I won't upgrade until I get ax adapters. My setup still performs great I just change broadcast channels on router and extender to prevent interference. Great as always Brian
I need your help with my school computer one of my sites read stories to me it’s not allowing me to listen to it with my volume all the way up but the volume is working on other sites to
Before I watch this video , I would like to say a mesh network works the best. A power line adapter is good but not good for homes older than 25 years unless you have updated your homes electrical wiring you will see no difference . A wifi extender, won’t help you out if there are too many walls . So a mesh works the best. But the very best option is to grab a 2nd router and place near a dead spot and just hardline all your equipment .
I use powerline ethernet and i’ve encountered no problem when streaming and gaming. Only problem i’ve had is i couldnt get the full speed of my internet as opposed to wifi/wifi extenders but i get the stability of a LAN cable which is great. Have you tried gaming and comparing the stability of mesh vs ethernet powerline?
how much speed degradation did you see when using a powerline ethernet adapter? i have gigabit internet, but the ISP provider router is about 150ft away. i am too worried that my speeds wouldnt even become half that when using powerline adapters.
@@brianv3ntura it depends on how your house/building's electrical is set up. The further away your are from the main power switch the slower it gets. Also if there are fluctuations around your area especially at night when a lot of people are using electricity. In my case the speed is usually halved at night.
Hello sir, I would be interested to know which deco you are using, I’ve just moved house and just using the virgin hub 3.0 and it’s bloody awful, and looking for a better solution.
I use the TP-Link powerline extenders and it does the job, albeit a few reliability and performance problems. I think the mesh network is the ultimate solution, but it shares the same Wifi bandwidth to chat to each other as you use to access the Wifi... the saviour is Wifi 6, I hope.
I tried Powerline, but unfortunately, despite the destination room being right above the router room, turns out they were on separate circuits which degraded the performance greatly. I ended up getting a second WiFi router and then used wireless bridging to connect to the original router. Saw much greater performance than Powerline, though I had to get a separate Ethernet switch, as any Ethernet devices connected to the second router will get reduced performance talking to each other because of the briefing all their packets have to make a trip to the original router first before going to the device plugged in next to them. The ethernet switch fixes this.
@RationalThinker The problem with the second router (ports 5-8) is that (due to how the router's firmware was designed) all its Ethernet ports go through the first router(ports 1-4), even if, for example, you're trying to share data directly between ports 5 and 6 which are physically next to each other. So the packet from port 5 has to travel over WiFi to the first router and then travel over WiFi again to the second router before it arrives at port 6. This naturally slows things down a lot, since the packet is taking an unnecessary detour through the WiFi connection twice. The Ethernet switch fixes this issue. The switch (ports 9-12) is smart enough to know that port 9 wants to talk to port 10, and will send packets directly there, without sending them over the WiFi connection at all. This wouldn't be necessary if my router was smart enough to do this without the extra switch, but it was easier for me to get the switch rather than hunting down new routers that can WiFi bridge.
@RationalThinker At least with my routers, even all non-internet traffic, Windows Folder Sharing for example, would have to go through the first router. So even if I was sending a file between two computers plugged directly into the second router with Ethernet, that file would have to jump over WiFi to the first router, and then jump over WiFi again back to the second router, before it'd get to the other computer. WiFi is way slower than Ethernet, and the file would have to go over WiFi twice because of this issue, hence massive decrease in transfer speed. Having both computers plugged into an Ethernet Switch however, would stop the file from even going to the second router at all, and instead divert it straight to the other computer via Ethernet.
Tp link power line adapter (the one you have) is what I have been using, I have a brand new consumer unit and it’s been brilliant. 95mb upstairs with a Firestick Ethernet adapter which is capped at 100mb. £35 ish and there great!
Looked at Mesh and powerline. Had to go with powerline 2 months ago due to budget. Will do me for now while working from home. Not had one dropped connection yet. Was several times a day on the wi fi only. Doesn't look good when on video meetings! Thanks for the videos, I'm still watching after all this time. ☺ 👍
Hey can anyone advise whether my first attempt to "upgrade" my network would be to replace the router provided by the ISP or should i go ahead to get a pair of mesh router?
Good video. Powerline adapters never work the speeds they advertise even on those who say in the box they do 1Gbps in reality if you get 100Mbps you're lucky. Powerline adapters are only good if you get a very weak wifi connection in your bedroom while the ISP router is in the living room, and that's pretty much it, so don't expect high performance from them. I bought the TP-link AV1000 and learned the hard way.
I've been using power adapters for years and they work great, better than WIFI. And I've found WIFI extenders unreliable, getting a newer router solved that issue. So if your working from home, gaming & have multiple PC's , power adapters was the answer for us.
Wait, so i can replace my Sky's router with my some other better router bought separately and I can still get Internet to work? I always thought i needed the ISP's router for some authentification process or whatever! For a desktop without a wifi receiver, can i still get a Mesh network setup and connect it to one of the mesh hub via Ethernet? Would the speed still be as good as Wifi? Thanks for the video!
Recently I've been trying to get ethernet to the front of my room using the router/modem at the back of my room which is basically my default gateway Would you recommend a mesh or a wifi extender/repeater to get ethernet output without the need of a very long ethernet cable or a switch?
Nice video britec as always 🤗 Can you please clear some of my doubts (1) can we use Iobit softwares like driver booster , iobit uninstaller and advance systemcare currently am using all these three and don't know why my laptop is running slow Should I continue using there it not? And also I used driver pack solutions for downloading of all drivers when I clean installed Windows 10 did I used right method or not?
Trouble, especially with the driver booster. Get rid. It gave me the dreaded blue screen of death. If it had not been for someone’s comment on one of Britec’s videos I don’t know what I would have done. I had been trying various things and then someone mentioned the driver booster causing this problem. Deleted it and all ok.
Great informative video again. I use two Netgear wifi extenders. I am on Sky and can only get 35mb download, which is what they reckon as well, so I don't think spending a lot of money is going to be of any benefit. When I do speed tests with them they are always above 30mb and usually very close to what I get on the router which is connected by an ethernet cable. I did wonder about a better router but again if I am getting all they say I can get then what is the point? The frustrating point in this is I used to live 70 yards away and was on Virgin with a 220mb connections so it would have been worth spending money with that as I used to see quite a drop with the wifi extenders.
I use MOCA adapters too. You can get near gigabit speeds around the house using MOCA 2.0 Bonded or 2.5. Make sure any coax splitters between the two adapters are MOCA compatible. Also be aware that MOCA and satellite tv signals don’t get along on the same cable.
Three things I wish I'd known in computing 1. Laser printers don't dry out making you keep buying new printers. 2. Mesh networks just work great. 3. A comfy chair is the best PC upgrade I did powerline initially because the engineer that installed Internet into our home couldn't put it where I wanted it. So he "solved" my problem buy getting these tiny powerline plugs out of his van and saying, here take these before quickly leaving. I did upgrade to expensive powerlines soon after thinking paying more would get me better results. It did get better but 30mb to 50mb isn't the rush I was hoping from a 200mb package. MESH solved all but I had dismissed WIFI solutions as garbage because I'm a dinosaur. The best thing you can really do is listen to guys like Britec09 who not only gives great advice but does so from a really consumer focused position. He's not an industry guy convincing you a £300 bone china tea pot is what you want when all you really do is make tea with tea bags in cups.
Great video and in my experience with each device has basically been the same as what you showed here. Currently I use a entry level mesh network in the for of a Tenda Nova MW-3 and its great, unfortunately its still connected to my ISP modem/router Eventually I plan to upgrade the mesh to a better system and buy a decent Router, the Router is 1st priority out of the 2.
Actually go with the smallest pack that works for your home. I have a 2500 sf home. I tried a 3 pack but got better speeds with the 2 pack. I have the Orbi 4200 and love it!
Please never use powerline adapters they affect people who are using amateur radio because they cause too much RF interference if you can advocate not using them that would be so much better I also I’m a network engineer so I know what the pitfalls of these power lines are unfortunately they should never of been regulated in the first place they unfortunate cause too much interference
You need to not test garbage powerline adapters, theyre 1000 times better than any wireless extender - chuck a spare wifi router (with DHCP turned off) into one at the end of a house and happy days, neen using that setup for 4 years...most reliable internet ever at that location. Wifi extenders are garbage/snakeoil, easy to sell to the clueless...plenty of fodder there. Plus you have the extender 3 feet form the wifi in a absolute goldilocks zone that wouldnt match real world...so useless "test" there. Most Extenders and Mesh halve the throughput with every hop....again ill take Powerline any day....
What do you guys use? 👍
Currently I use a entry level mesh network in the for of a Tenda Nova MW-3 and its great.
@Miss Kaya Gamers I have my CCTV connected to my mesh network and mines entry level one, works great
I use 4 TP-Link powerline adapters, 2x 8port switches and numerous ethernet cables. Gives me the reliability I need after many WiFi problems. I hasten to add I'm not a gamer so no idea how my system would stand up with games loading.. J
I have Verizon fios gigabit internet so I use their Quantum AC Router and their Actiontec AC extender. I owned them outright no fees and the extender is made with their router so it works similar to mesh router. Verizon have there own mesh routers now with WPA3 security but I won't upgrade until I get ax adapters. My setup still performs great I just change broadcast channels on router and extender to prevent interference. Great as always Brian
I need your help with my school computer one of my sites read stories to me it’s not allowing me to listen to it with my volume all the way up but the volume is working on other sites to
Those powerline adapters you tested have ethernet 10/100 ports, so you won't get higher speeds than 100mb like the others.
Before I watch this video , I would like to say a mesh network works the best. A power line adapter is good but not good for homes older than 25 years unless you have updated your homes electrical wiring you will see no difference . A wifi extender, won’t help you out if there are too many walls . So a mesh works the best. But the very best option is to grab a 2nd router and place near a dead spot and just hardline all your equipment .
2nd router works, but its a bit old school, mesh networks replaced that idea
Never had a problem with powerline Ethernet
I use powerline ethernet and i’ve encountered no problem when streaming and gaming. Only problem i’ve had is i couldnt get the full speed of my internet as opposed to wifi/wifi extenders but i get the stability of a LAN cable which is great. Have you tried gaming and comparing the stability of mesh vs ethernet powerline?
Can you plug a powerline Ethernet adapter in a power strip? That’s the only option I have
You can’t plug it into a strip. It’s gonna make communication between the two devices difficult.
@@kingsilver0536 But some people have said it works fine when it’s plugged into a power strip
how much speed degradation did you see when using a powerline ethernet adapter? i have gigabit internet, but the ISP provider router is about 150ft away. i am too worried that my speeds wouldnt even become half that when using powerline adapters.
@@brianv3ntura it depends on how your house/building's electrical is set up. The further away your are from the main power switch the slower it gets. Also if there are fluctuations around your area especially at night when a lot of people are using electricity. In my case the speed is usually halved at night.
I have the T-Plink Deco mesh network system and I love it. I get full speed not half the speed like you get out of an extender.
Deco mesh network is very good Nick
Hello sir, I would be interested to know which deco you are using, I’ve just moved house and just using the virgin hub 3.0 and it’s bloody awful, and looking for a better solution.
Do you experience high latency/ping spike when using Deco?
I use the TP-Link powerline extenders and it does the job, albeit a few reliability and performance problems. I think the mesh network is the ultimate solution, but it shares the same Wifi bandwidth to chat to each other as you use to access the Wifi... the saviour is Wifi 6, I hope.
Can I plug a tp link powerline adapter in power strip?
@@jumpman2326 yes
I tried Powerline, but unfortunately, despite the destination room being right above the router room, turns out they were on separate circuits which degraded the performance greatly. I ended up getting a second WiFi router and then used wireless bridging to connect to the original router. Saw much greater performance than Powerline, though I had to get a separate Ethernet switch, as any Ethernet devices connected to the second router will get reduced performance talking to each other because of the briefing all their packets have to make a trip to the original router first before going to the device plugged in next to them. The ethernet switch fixes this.
@RationalThinker The problem with the second router (ports 5-8) is that (due to how the router's firmware was designed) all its Ethernet ports go through the first router(ports 1-4), even if, for example, you're trying to share data directly between ports 5 and 6 which are physically next to each other. So the packet from port 5 has to travel over WiFi to the first router and then travel over WiFi again to the second router before it arrives at port 6. This naturally slows things down a lot, since the packet is taking an unnecessary detour through the WiFi connection twice.
The Ethernet switch fixes this issue. The switch (ports 9-12) is smart enough to know that port 9 wants to talk to port 10, and will send packets directly there, without sending them over the WiFi connection at all. This wouldn't be necessary if my router was smart enough to do this without the extra switch, but it was easier for me to get the switch rather than hunting down new routers that can WiFi bridge.
@RationalThinker At least with my routers, even all non-internet traffic, Windows Folder Sharing for example, would have to go through the first router. So even if I was sending a file between two computers plugged directly into the second router with Ethernet, that file would have to jump over WiFi to the first router, and then jump over WiFi again back to the second router, before it'd get to the other computer. WiFi is way slower than Ethernet, and the file would have to go over WiFi twice because of this issue, hence massive decrease in transfer speed.
Having both computers plugged into an Ethernet Switch however, would stop the file from even going to the second router at all, and instead divert it straight to the other computer via Ethernet.
Tp link power line adapter (the one you have) is what I have been using, I have a brand new consumer unit and it’s been brilliant. 95mb upstairs with a Firestick Ethernet adapter which is capped at 100mb. £35 ish and there great!
good explenation, but why did you switch speedtest with every test you've done?
How do these compare to using 2 or 3 routers as a WiFi repeater?
Looked at Mesh and powerline. Had to go with powerline 2 months ago due to budget. Will do me for now while working from home. Not had one dropped connection yet. Was several times a day on the wi fi only. Doesn't look good when on video meetings!
Thanks for the videos, I'm still watching after all this time. ☺ 👍
Hope you enjoy it!
Hey can anyone advise whether my first attempt to "upgrade" my network would be to replace the router provided by the ISP or should i go ahead to get a pair of mesh router?
is ethernet cable speed will be same at all of them?
Good video. Powerline adapters never work the speeds they advertise even on those who say in the box they do 1Gbps in reality if you get 100Mbps you're lucky. Powerline adapters are only good if you get a very weak wifi connection in your bedroom while the ISP router is in the living room, and that's pretty much it, so don't expect high performance from them. I bought the TP-link AV1000 and learned the hard way.
Question, if I use a wifi extender Ethernet port will it perform relatively the same as a powerline adapter ?
Thank you Brian, yet another informative video covering most areas, you always make it easy to follow/understand
I've been using power adapters for years and they work great, better than WIFI. And I've found WIFI extenders unreliable, getting a newer router solved that issue. So if your working from home, gaming & have multiple PC's , power adapters was the answer for us.
Can you plug a power adapter in a power strip?
@@jumpman2326 Nope. Plug it directly into wall socket.
@@ajmeerk But it might work in a power strip
@@jumpman2326 Yes but not recommended.
Just got power adapter last night and I'm getting same speed as with wire. Wifi I had to much disconnects
You saved me time twice in as many months. HUGE THANK YOU
Glad I could help
Wait, so i can replace my Sky's router with my some other better router bought separately and I can still get Internet to work? I always thought i needed the ISP's router for some authentification process or whatever!
For a desktop without a wifi receiver, can i still get a Mesh network setup and connect it to one of the mesh hub via Ethernet? Would the speed still be as good as Wifi?
Thanks for the video!
Can i plug this into a multisocket? With no surge protection?
May I know your connection speed with wire to wire so i can know how much the connection drops
Will the mesh able to pickup my ring floodlight cameras?
Recently I've been trying to get ethernet to the front of my room using the router/modem at the back of my room which is basically my default gateway
Would you recommend a mesh or a wifi extender/repeater to get ethernet output without the need of a very long ethernet cable or a switch?
What did you end up doing ?
Nice video britec as always 🤗
Can you please clear some of my doubts
(1) can we use Iobit softwares like driver booster , iobit uninstaller and advance systemcare currently am using all these three and don't know why my laptop is running slow
Should I continue using there it not?
And also I used driver pack solutions for downloading of all drivers when I clean installed Windows 10 did I used right method or not?
I would not use them.
Trouble, especially with the driver booster. Get rid. It gave me the dreaded blue screen of death. If it had not been for someone’s comment on one of Britec’s videos I don’t know what I would have done. I had been trying various things and then someone mentioned the driver booster causing this problem. Deleted it and all ok.
@@Britec09 please give proper explained reason for this am waiting for your reply
@@quarkyman1 ohh thanks for this what you think about driver pack solutions ?
Best review about the wifi extenders, all around the world 🌎
As an ex network techy, I wonder if this mesh node is just a new name for a Bridge. But with onboard switching.
Mesh is awesome.
can you use a tp powerlink for any router for eg linksys router?
You can use any power line adaptors with any router
I get server lost connection host/server everytime I play my games, and I'm using ethernet cable is there anyway you can help me?
Great informative video again. I use two Netgear wifi extenders. I am on Sky and can only get 35mb download, which is what they reckon as well, so I don't think spending a lot of money is going to be of any benefit. When I do speed tests with them they are always above 30mb and usually very close to what I get on the router which is connected by an ethernet cable. I did wonder about a better router but again if I am getting all they say I can get then what is the point?
The frustrating point in this is I used to live 70 yards away and was on Virgin with a 220mb connections so it would have been worth spending money with that as I used to see quite a drop with the wifi extenders.
Yeah that sounds about right, if you are getting the speed your supposed to, not worth upgrading any further.
What about MOCA adapters?
I will get some Jim and test
If you got an existing cable in the right place, they’re great!
I use MOCA adapters too. You can get near gigabit speeds around the house using MOCA 2.0 Bonded or 2.5. Make sure any coax splitters between the two adapters are MOCA compatible. Also be aware that MOCA and satellite tv signals don’t get along on the same cable.
Very infomative video. Thanks for doing this Brian. I was thinking of getting outlets wifi adapter. But now the Mesh network seem what i looking for.
Mesh is the way to go for sure, they are not cheap, but the coverage is awesome.
I wish you had tested these in games, like Fortnite, PUBG, Valorant, CS:GO, etc.
Three things I wish I'd known in computing
1. Laser printers don't dry out making you keep buying new printers.
2. Mesh networks just work great.
3. A comfy chair is the best PC upgrade
I did powerline initially because the engineer that installed Internet into our home couldn't put it where I wanted it. So he "solved" my problem buy getting these tiny powerline plugs out of his van and saying, here take these before quickly leaving. I did upgrade to expensive powerlines soon after thinking paying more would get me better results. It did get better but 30mb to 50mb isn't the rush I was hoping from a 200mb package. MESH solved all but I had dismissed WIFI solutions as garbage because I'm a dinosaur. The best thing you can really do is listen to guys like Britec09 who not only gives great advice but does so from a really consumer focused position. He's not an industry guy convincing you a £300 bone china tea pot is what you want when all you really do is make tea with tea bags in cups.
Mesh networks is awesome.
Great video and in my experience with each device has basically been the same as what you showed here.
Currently I use a entry level mesh network in the for of a Tenda Nova MW-3 and its great, unfortunately its still connected to my ISP modem/router
Eventually I plan to upgrade the mesh to a better system and buy a decent Router, the Router is 1st priority out of the 2.
Thanks for sharing
is TPLINK DECO M4 2 pack ok?
Yes they are very good. Just make sure it covers your size of house. 3 pack is better
@@Britec09 flat 60m2 :)
Actually go with the smallest pack that works for your home. I have a 2500 sf home. I tried a 3 pack but got better speeds with the 2 pack. I have the Orbi 4200 and love it!
Many thanks for this video! Just what I needed now!
Glad it helped!
Very much indeed!
i just buahgt 1gig internet.... just realised that my powerline adapter only go to 100meg
Please never use powerline adapters they affect people who are using amateur radio because they cause too much RF interference if you can advocate not using them that would be so much better I also I’m a network engineer so I know what the pitfalls of these power lines are unfortunately they should never of been regulated in the first place they unfortunate cause too much interference
They sure do and that also affects performance a lot.
Nice video, i use Tplink Deco m5 3 pack works excellent
Yeah they are very good.
Good to Know.....Thanks.
You're welcome
Power lines suck. Always had issues with them.
"Rooter" LOL
Yep, proper UK pronunciation!
@RAM BAS lovely to see such enlightenment from our Australian friends. Lucky women down under.
Much more beh'a!
Your showing speeds and speeds have nothing to do with good gaming ,, it's all about ping times and wifi suck compared to lanelines
You need to not test garbage powerline adapters, theyre 1000 times better than any wireless extender - chuck a spare wifi router (with DHCP turned off) into one at the end of a house and happy days, neen using that setup for 4 years...most reliable internet ever at that location. Wifi extenders are garbage/snakeoil, easy to sell to the clueless...plenty of fodder there. Plus you have the extender 3 feet form the wifi in a absolute goldilocks zone that wouldnt match real world...so useless "test" there. Most Extenders and Mesh halve the throughput with every hop....again ill take Powerline any day....
At last. Someone talking sense, especially about how uselessly the extender was "tested".
Nice video
please add subtitles in youtube player if you can. thank you
first!
Please test them before you talk 🙄😏