Venom will not be in Spider-Man 4 I promise. Venom finds his Peter Parker in his world and but Peter is a kid. Read the comics about there friendship I know for a fact that’s the story for Venom 3
There’s no way they’ll pick anybody who’s not Venom. It would just be the dumbest decision to not choose Venom! We have been DYING for a Spidey VS Venom movie.
Honestly, I think they’d choose venom, it’s the only good-ish thing that came out of the SSU, and you could do a lot with venom, and he’s a very popular character that people want to see well done, Kraven would be good too, but with the movie coming out and with Sonys multiple reshoots it’s had, I thinks it’s most likely venom
I see your point but i feel like that same reasons of kraven reshoot might be the icing on the cake on why kraven, honestly out of all the ssu kraven did look the best imo, and the fact that Sony is dropping the ball when the have a good character and actor might make it easier for them to give it up what you think?
@@BM-sg1sl that's right. Tom Hardy already went back to his universe, so the symbiote left behind in the MCU, that's a clean slate in of itself! It's brilliant!
@@moontail82 I think the reshoot is exactly why Kraven won’t come, idk if this reshoot is good or not, but knowing Sonys track record (and the recent flop of Madam Web) tells me that whatever Sony is cooking is going to make fans upset, hopefully I’m wrong but again I have no clue what’s going to happen
Spider-Man 4 might feature the return of Michael Keaton's Vulture, Michael Mando's Scorpion and Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin as the antagonists of the movie. Tom Hardy's Venom and Aaron Taylor Johnson's Kraven could easily be in this too.
Makes sense considering whichever character is chosen most likely has alot of history with Spiderman. I imagine it's Kraven considering they would've done Kraven before the villians from other Spiderman films plot was in play with the film
I'm pretty sure the Holland black suit concept art was just something the artist who worked on NWH did for himself. Tweets where he showed it off should still be up.
I think Spider-Man would have to wear the symbiot for a while before we get Venom. Him getting the black suit could happen a lot sooner than you would think. All we have to do is have him fight someone, get his suit wreaked, and go see the Avengers or Fantastic Four and have someone say, "Got a new suit right here for you. Made it out of some cool stuff we found in Mexico."
I think you gotta have the 4th movie be an introduction of peters new cast of characters and the building of those relationships. Then in the 5th movie, Peter comes in contact with the symbiote and we get see how it affects his relationships that were previously shown and possibly if there enough time in the movie, there could be the venom introduction and defeat. Kraven would make the most sense considering venom already has his movies and whole character while Kraven movie won’t be as prominent or popular. And Kraven introduction would lead to a good story with symbiote Peter
Morbius is a cool character in the comics, so if they wanted to just use the character and have no connection to the SSU, I think a reboot with him would be awesome.
I’m sure it’s Venom. Especially because Venom 3 is the last film, so I want Venom to be in the MCU so he can still continue, especially in the Avengers world.
plus you could chuck it up to Vulture getting returned back to the MCU after the events of ACROSS the Spiderverse. Kevin Feige could FIX MORBIUS like he did Electro⚡️
It has been said that Tom Holland's Spider-Man will get the black suit for *_Secret Wars_* and Tobey's Spider-Man will warn him not to give in to the symbiote for obvious reasons.
Kevin is smart he’s letting the Sony movies fail and not helping them purposely bc then he can come in and buy all the Spider-Man villian back or negotiate for them and bring them back better
If Venom is coming I think Scorpion might be the host. He has a vendetta against Spider-Man and he hates Spider-Man to the core. Imagine all that hate used in the symbiote. Also Scorpion became Venom temporarily in the comics.
They need to take it down a notch and give us a street level story. I really want Kingpin, Prowler and Scorpion. Kingpin to tie in Daredevil, Prowler to eventually tie in Miles Morales and Scorpion to tie in that loose end from Homecoming. Since the symbiote is in the MCU, Scorpion can get it instead just to spice things up
The rummers says that ssu univers is on there way to be melted inn to mcu. So spiderman 4 Will have scorpion, mister negative. And Credit 1 vulture and kraven and Credit 2 morlun) venom is hard to say but tom vs tom inn venom 3
scorpion as the first venom symboite in mcu could work....he escapes prision and heads to mexico and comes across the symboite. it makes him into his scorpion persona
I think it’s better to add a New venom in the MCU by introducing a New eddy brock without taking Tom Hardys venom And let Tom Hardys Venom fight with Andrews Spiderman
Here’s my ideal set up for Spider-Man 4. Peter starts at ESU, but he ignores everyone, especially Gwen Stacy after what Peter 3 told him, and he’s been a loner ever since he lost May. He’s working at the Daily Bugle, which he hates. Kingpin has taken over the city as mayor and hires Mac Gargan to become Scorpion and hunt down Spider-Man and Daredevil as they are both getting in his way. Spider-Man gets the Symbiote and pushes away Daredevil’s help, thinking he can’t accept his help otherwise he’s in harms way. Peter realises that the Symbiote is a bad influence after almost killing Kingpin, and removes it, where Mac Gargan then gets it, becoming Venom. Peter gets with Gwen after learning from Matt’s advice to live his life, to protect his friends and not isolate himself. Venom tracks down Peter and tries to kill Gwen, but Peter stops him and destroys the Symbiote. It should focus on the themes of grief, paranoia, isolation and moving on, it’s the perfect ending to MCU Peter’s story, and the perfect point to start a new trilogy. It’s paid off pretty much all that’s been left as loose ends, and subverted audience expectations, but still leaves some things open for further exploration. I’d love to see Spider-Man 5 introduce the MCU’s version of Norman Osborn as Harry Osborn, but not to do the Green Goblin story yet. I’d prefer for Kraven and Rhino to be the main villains of it, which can then lead to the reintroduction of Dmitri from Far From Home as Chameleon in Spider-Man 6, alongside Hobgoblin, and it can subvert audience expectations again by having neither Norman or Harry be the Goblin, and actually just having them be regular people. Hobgoblin could be anyone that realistically could tell a good story, and use Chameleon as a device to throw people off.
Listen this is what you do... Avengers Secret Wars ends with the MCU getting merged with a couple other universes so that the neo-MCU can have mutants and maybe a few SSU characters already integrated. Now cut to Spider-Man 5. You conclude an already set up symbiote story by soft rebooting ATJ's Kraven and adapting Kraven's Last Hunt. This way you can have ATJ without him looking like Quicksilver (since a universe merger might have Evan Peters continuing as Pietro anyway). Oh and as a side note, he has to use a russian accent, anything else is just wrong.
Also, Venom had a Cameo appearance at the end of Spider-Man: No Way Home, post-credits scene. Venom, and Eddie Brock, are transported into the MCU, The Marvel Cinematic Universe. Eddie Brock, and Venom, are confused by where they are and are confused by what is happening to them in the MCU, The Marvel Cinematic Universe. Tom Holland’s, Spider-Man, is on the tv screen, and then Venom looks at the tv screen. He goes up to it, and he says “That guy”???? And then, Venom licks his tongue on the tv screen, on Tom Holland’s, Spider-Man. And then they are both transported back to their Song Universe.
Before I watched this I actually thought it was Kraven. Also the fact that they already got the symbiotic in the mcu I wouldn’t be surprised with that information that the one they want actually is kraven then the black suit just matches what happened in the comics
I want Venom, to come into the MCU, The Marvel Cinematic Universe. I would like to see Venom to met Andrew Garfield’s, Spider-Man. It has to be Venom. Venom, had his own 2 solo movies. So it would make absolutely sense to bring Venom, into the MCU. The Marvel Cinematic Universe.
It’s definitely Venom. I believe what he’s implying as there future in the MCU is probably gonna be Tom getting the Symbiote Suit in Secret Wars and then having his Black Suit storyline.
All I care about with Venom is they use Eddie Brock first. Then if you want to change things up, feel free after at least 3 films where Eddie is Venom. Only one of those needs to be Eddie for the main villain.
For me I think they should choose Venom just for a Tom Holland Spider-Man versus Venom movie. I don't know whether they bring the character and actor or just the character. If they recast Kraven I bet either Jason Momoa or Joel Kinnaman for the role.
It'd be really cool if Venom got his own Marvel Spotlight film, where they can dive deeper into Eddie Brock and his psyche. And of course, Venom has the opportunity to be darker and not hold back when it comes to the rating
Kraven is the most expected and makes the most sense. Venom also makes sense because who host the symbiote can change. Flash also wore it in the comics.
Tbh it probably is Venom cause: - The NWH post credit scene - The Spider-Man 2 game having Venom would still be fresh in people's minds - (SPOILERS) The recent Insomniac leaks mentioning plans of an upcoming Venom game - The third Venom movie - The MCU's set-up to Secret Wars, which is originally where Peter gets the black suit in the comics There's just too much evidence/current buzz around Venom for it not to be him
Im Not Going to Lie I Think Venom 3 would have spiderman in it before spiderman 4 having venom. Would still connect MCU to Venom but Kraven could come to as a trade off of charcaters for both movies
Interesting that Kevin said. A villian who is cool but has a disheartening role.... key word ....disheartening The definition means ...to cause someone to lose confidence or determination. Interesting. Which villian would cause Peter to lose confidence and determination?
Even back to Black Panther 1, Ryan Coogler wanted Kraven teased in that film. They've been wanting to use Kraven for the longest, and they should. The Kraven movie most likely will be bad (but we don't know how it turn out just yet) but knowing Sony, they aren't the best. However, I really want Kraven in the mcu some point.
No no no. I love Tom hardy but they need a fresh new more comic accurate venom/eddie Brock for the MCU. They set up the black goo at the end of NWH. NOT Tom Hardy’s venom. Alan richtson (reacher) would be a great Eddie Brock.
I think it’s most likely kraven Spider-Man NWH was originally supposed to be with kraven and they already have a bit of the venom symbiote making him a obvious choice
I think Feige was talking about Kraven since Venom is already technically part of the MCU. However I honestly wouldn’t hate the idea of Morbius being in the MCU either. NOW HEAR ME OUT!!! Morbius had terrible writing in his movie. Just hire new writers to do him right. I think he’d be a cool villain for Spider-Man to fight. All the MCU has to do is not have the same writers as the Morbius movie
I was thinking it was probably William Dafoe’s Green Goblin. Given what he did in No Way Home I think making him a recurring villain would be the thing to do.
What if its morbius? with blade coming out, we could get a team up after his movie to introduce him or he could show up in the spiderman movie to reveal him (like in the 90s spiderman show)
The reason why they didnt use the full sinister 6 is because sony wants to do a standalone movie for them they wouldnt allow them to be put in a movie now deh
I don't really want any of them facing off against MCU Spidey. But I really do wanna see Hardy's Venom joining The Thunderbolts! 😅🤔 Hardy's Venom and Reynolds' Deadpool together in an R Rated Thunderbolts could be so good! 😫
I honestly believe all these rumors we are hearing about spiderman 4 are just marvels plans for the next trilogy. Not really a single movie but we have the daredevil/kingpin story floating around, we know they have wanted a Kraven movie in the past maybe for 5, and we know they want to use venom. All potential and in my opinion great ideas for a street level spider-man trilogy.
That was what I heard also first like spiderman 4 scorpion, mister negative and kingpin. Spiderman 5 sinmister 6(616 and 688)vulture, scorpion, mister negative, kraven, morbius and kingpin. Spiderman 6 spidergedom morlun. not sure with venom but they say it Will be tom vs tom inn venom 3 and venom Will be on team spiderman inn spiderman 6.(spiderman 6 team Will be tobey, Andrew, tom, miles, gween, venom and Miguel)
I think in spider-man 4, Kingpin should be the main villain. But I think there should be two side villains as well, like scorpion & Chameleon. They set up the sinister 6 with kinpin recruiting both of them. They set up the sinister 6 even more where in spider-man 5 where spider-man faces kraven the hunter and rhino who are then recruited by kingpin to form the sinister 6. Then in spider-man 6 you have Peter, daredevil, miles and black cat vs the sinister 6 who consists of vulture, scorpion, rhino, kravin, Chameleon and morbius. You can even add into the story of kingpin trying to recruite black cat but her turning them down and they hunt her too which is how she joins peter in battle and plus throughout the movie there romantically involved.
They need to makeVenom⚫️🕷🕸 the villian and set up the black suit so Tom🔴🔵🕷🕸 can have the black suit⚫️🕷🕸 when secret wars come out and fight Tobey🔴🔵🕷🕸 and Andrew🔴🔵🕷🕸 when the symbiote starts taking control of him
Kraven was supposed to be in black panther, if they couldn’t get him then why would they want him now. Venom has the black suit in the mcu, again if they wanted to they could’ve had especially with the whole symbiote thing in love and thunder. I honestly think it’s morbius as he contributes to the overall mcu and not just Spiderman, if done right he could not only contribute to Spiderman but also a blade movie and also play a key role in a midnight suns. As much as I hated the movie and character, it’s gotta be morbius
what if it's like this... In Venom 3 he shifts to the TASM universe and he fights Andrew's Spider-Man he kills Andrew's Spidey then in a post credit he shifts back to the MCU again and wanted to find Tom's Spider-Man and then they'll continue this story in the Spider-Man 4 Versus Venom and he kills the Venom and Eddie but the Symbiote gets onto him and the Symbiote carries on to corrupt him during Avengers 5 and Secret Wars.
I honestly think they want Kraven the Hunter. It be awesome to see Kraven as the next villain for Spider-Man 4. But I honestly want to see Scorpion as the next main villain.
I hope it's venom and not morbius.
I was hype Morbius but disappointed
It better be Venom and Brock. Morbius will be a let down. Heck I even want Kingpin.
Venom will not be in Spider-Man 4 I promise.
Venom finds his Peter Parker in his world and but Peter is a kid. Read the comics about there friendship I know for a fact that’s the story for Venom 3
If it is morbius let’s hope blade kills him
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There’s no way they’ll pick anybody who’s not Venom. It would just be the dumbest decision to not choose Venom! We have been DYING for a Spidey VS Venom movie.
Tom Hardy’s venom is not a real villain towards spider man he’s a lame comedian venom
I actualy want morbius
@kobekobe8527 venom can never be evil cause it doesn't suit him anymore, also Sony's venom is more realistic then what you delusional fans think.
@@zanish4404 when did I call Sony’s Venom unrealistic? Don’t put your prejudice on me.
@@zanish4404 shutup insomniac game 2 and spider man the animated series venoms was evil you sound dumb
Honestly, I think they’d choose venom, it’s the only good-ish thing that came out of the SSU, and you could do a lot with venom, and he’s a very popular character that people want to see well done, Kraven would be good too, but with the movie coming out and with Sonys multiple reshoots it’s had, I thinks it’s most likely venom
They wouldn’t use Sonys venom. They would most likely reboot him.
I see your point but i feel like that same reasons of kraven reshoot might be the icing on the cake on why kraven, honestly out of all the ssu kraven did look the best imo, and the fact that Sony is dropping the ball when the have a good character and actor might make it easier for them to give it up what you think?
@@BM-sg1sl that's right. Tom Hardy already went back to his universe, so the symbiote left behind in the MCU, that's a clean slate in of itself! It's brilliant!
@@atavious2491 I honestly wouldn’t mind it if they used the same actor to play a variant eddie Brock in the mcu. That way hardy gets a fair shot.
@@moontail82 I think the reshoot is exactly why Kraven won’t come, idk if this reshoot is good or not, but knowing Sonys track record (and the recent flop of Madam Web) tells me that whatever Sony is cooking is going to make fans upset, hopefully I’m wrong but again I have no clue what’s going to happen
Spider-Man 4 might feature the return of Michael Keaton's Vulture, Michael Mando's Scorpion and Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin as the antagonists of the movie. Tom Hardy's Venom and Aaron Taylor Johnson's Kraven could easily be in this too.
And that is the rummerd with mister negative asweel and mabye morlun as a multiverse treath for spiderman
Makes sense considering whichever character is chosen most likely has alot of history with Spiderman. I imagine it's Kraven considering they would've done Kraven before the villians from other Spiderman films plot was in play with the film
Definitely Venom. He’s already there in the MCU.
I'm pretty sure the Holland black suit concept art was just something the artist who worked on NWH did for himself.
Tweets where he showed it off should still be up.
I think Spider-Man would have to wear the symbiot for a while before we get Venom. Him getting the black suit could happen a lot sooner than you would think. All we have to do is have him fight someone, get his suit wreaked, and go see the Avengers or Fantastic Four and have someone say, "Got a new suit right here for you. Made it out of some cool stuff we found in Mexico."
This movie is sounding more crowded then Superman Legacy, but I'm still hoping their both good
Honestly Venom would be the obvious answer but it could also be The Rhino from The Kraven movie
Ha I forgot he was gonna be in that to be honest
I just want to see scorpion fight Spider-Man
I think you gotta have the 4th movie be an introduction of peters new cast of characters and the building of those relationships. Then in the 5th movie, Peter comes in contact with the symbiote and we get see how it affects his relationships that were previously shown and possibly if there enough time in the movie, there could be the venom introduction and defeat. Kraven would make the most sense considering venom already has his movies and whole character while Kraven movie won’t be as prominent or popular. And Kraven introduction would lead to a good story with symbiote Peter
Morbius is a cool character in the comics, so if they wanted to just use the character and have no connection to the SSU, I think a reboot with him would be awesome.
He did get a 90s run that they could take inspiration from.
Yes I love Morbius in the Spider-Man comics and Midnight Sons
I’m sure it’s Venom. Especially because Venom 3 is the last film, so I want Venom to be in the MCU so he can still continue, especially in the Avengers world.
Personally i think scorpion becoming venom in the mcu would be epic
Something different.
@@codename8750 my be they recast eddie brock and give us Alexender ludwig as venom in mcu
It’s probably gonna be Venom! 👍
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I hope it’s Kraven I need a insomniac Kraven in the big screen
They shouldn't introduce morbius, until they officially introduce blade and vampires
plus you could chuck it up to Vulture getting returned back to the MCU after the events of ACROSS the Spiderverse.
Kevin Feige could FIX MORBIUS like he did Electro⚡️
It’s gonna be Venom. You don’t miss that opportunity on purpose
It has been said that Tom Holland's Spider-Man will get the black suit for *_Secret Wars_* and Tobey's Spider-Man will warn him not to give in to the symbiote for obvious reasons.
man the black suit was never supposed to show up 😭😭 the artist who made the art just had some fun and posted it
Kevin is smart he’s letting the Sony movies fail and not helping them purposely bc then he can come in and buy all the Spider-Man villian back or negotiate for them and bring them back better
If Venom is coming I think Scorpion might be the host. He has a vendetta against Spider-Man and he hates Spider-Man to the core. Imagine all that hate used in the symbiote. Also Scorpion became Venom temporarily in the comics.
They need to take it down a notch and give us a street level story.
I really want Kingpin, Prowler and Scorpion.
Kingpin to tie in Daredevil, Prowler to eventually tie in Miles Morales and Scorpion to tie in that loose end from Homecoming.
Since the symbiote is in the MCU, Scorpion can get it instead just to spice things up
My thoughts are:Kraven, Scorpion, silver sable, black cat, venom and Kraven.
I want to see the mcu version of Morbius his one of my favorite Spider-Man characters
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL HE'S TALKING ABOUT VENOM
We need Venom and morbius and kraven in the MCU. I'd also like to see hobgoblin
The rummers says that ssu univers is on there way to be melted inn to mcu. So spiderman 4 Will have scorpion, mister negative. And Credit 1 vulture and kraven and Credit 2 morlun) venom is hard to say but tom vs tom inn venom 3
scorpion as the first venom symboite in mcu could work....he escapes prision and heads to mexico and comes across the symboite. it makes him into his scorpion persona
I think it’s Kravens and there gunna adapt the last hunt
I think it’s better to add a New venom in the MCU by introducing a New eddy brock without taking Tom Hardys venom
And let Tom Hardys Venom fight with Andrews Spiderman
He probably wants vulture back lol
It's Venom or Kraven. I think its both
Here’s my ideal set up for Spider-Man 4. Peter starts at ESU, but he ignores everyone, especially Gwen Stacy after what Peter 3 told him, and he’s been a loner ever since he lost May. He’s working at the Daily Bugle, which he hates. Kingpin has taken over the city as mayor and hires Mac Gargan to become Scorpion and hunt down Spider-Man and Daredevil as they are both getting in his way. Spider-Man gets the Symbiote and pushes away Daredevil’s help, thinking he can’t accept his help otherwise he’s in harms way. Peter realises that the Symbiote is a bad influence after almost killing Kingpin, and removes it, where Mac Gargan then gets it, becoming Venom. Peter gets with Gwen after learning from Matt’s advice to live his life, to protect his friends and not isolate himself. Venom tracks down Peter and tries to kill Gwen, but Peter stops him and destroys the Symbiote. It should focus on the themes of grief, paranoia, isolation and moving on, it’s the perfect ending to MCU Peter’s story, and the perfect point to start a new trilogy. It’s paid off pretty much all that’s been left as loose ends, and subverted audience expectations, but still leaves some things open for further exploration. I’d love to see Spider-Man 5 introduce the MCU’s version of Norman Osborn as Harry Osborn, but not to do the Green Goblin story yet. I’d prefer for Kraven and Rhino to be the main villains of it, which can then lead to the reintroduction of Dmitri from Far From Home as Chameleon in Spider-Man 6, alongside Hobgoblin, and it can subvert audience expectations again by having neither Norman or Harry be the Goblin, and actually just having them be regular people. Hobgoblin could be anyone that realistically could tell a good story, and use Chameleon as a device to throw people off.
Listen this is what you do...
Avengers Secret Wars ends with the MCU getting merged with a couple other universes so that the neo-MCU can have mutants and maybe a few SSU characters already integrated. Now cut to Spider-Man 5. You conclude an already set up symbiote story by soft rebooting ATJ's Kraven and adapting Kraven's Last Hunt. This way you can have ATJ without him looking like Quicksilver (since a universe merger might have Evan Peters continuing as Pietro anyway). Oh and as a side note, he has to use a russian accent, anything else is just wrong.
Also, Venom had a Cameo appearance at the end of Spider-Man: No Way Home, post-credits scene. Venom, and Eddie Brock, are transported into the MCU, The Marvel Cinematic Universe. Eddie Brock, and Venom, are confused by where they are and are confused by what is happening to them in the MCU, The Marvel Cinematic Universe. Tom Holland’s, Spider-Man, is on the tv screen, and then Venom looks at the tv screen. He goes up to it, and he says “That guy”???? And then, Venom licks his tongue on the tv screen, on Tom Holland’s, Spider-Man. And then they are both transported back to their Song Universe.
maybe The Black Knight's Sword will connect with Venom 😅 even though Gorr'as Necro Sword should have
Would be dope if spider man is fighting kraven and winning and venom attaches himself to kraven giving him an advantage
You can use Morbius for Blade's movie.
Imagine it’s someone we don’t expect, like rhino from Kraven, or Ezekiel sims
Before I watched this I actually thought it was Kraven. Also the fact that they already got the symbiotic in the mcu I wouldn’t be surprised with that information that the one they want actually is kraven then the black suit just matches what happened in the comics
We all want marvel legend Morbius in the mcu
I want Venom, to come into the MCU, The Marvel Cinematic Universe. I would like to see Venom to met Andrew Garfield’s, Spider-Man. It has to be Venom. Venom, had his own 2 solo movies. So it would make absolutely sense to bring Venom, into the MCU. The Marvel Cinematic Universe.
It’s definitely Venom. I believe what he’s implying as there future in the MCU is probably gonna be Tom getting the Symbiote Suit in Secret Wars and then having his Black Suit storyline.
What if Ryan Gosling is the new Eddie Brock????
All I care about with Venom is they use Eddie Brock first. Then if you want to change things up, feel free after at least 3 films where Eddie is Venom. Only one of those needs to be Eddie for the main villain.
It’s definitely venom. They are doing secret wars. Tom Hardy would play the symbiote and Tom Holland would wear the symbiote.
Venom or kraven either one I’m cool with it
For me I think they should choose Venom just for a Tom Holland Spider-Man versus Venom movie. I don't know whether they bring the character and actor or just the character. If they recast Kraven I bet either Jason Momoa or Joel Kinnaman for the role.
It'd be really cool if Venom got his own Marvel Spotlight film, where they can dive deeper into Eddie Brock and his psyche. And of course, Venom has the opportunity to be darker and not hold back when it comes to the rating
Imagine we get Spider-Man 4 and it's Antman and Morbius lmao
Why don’t they just use morbius for the blade movie and Kraven for Spider-Man 4
Kraven is the most expected and makes the most sense. Venom also makes sense because who host the symbiote can change. Flash also wore it in the comics.
Tbh it probably is Venom cause:
- The NWH post credit scene
- The Spider-Man 2 game having Venom would still be fresh in people's minds
- (SPOILERS) The recent Insomniac leaks mentioning plans of an upcoming Venom game
- The third Venom movie
- The MCU's set-up to Secret Wars, which is originally where Peter gets the black suit in the comics
There's just too much evidence/current buzz around Venom for it not to be him
i hope its good but like i think its way cooler to have a grounded spiderman story for once (since it also perfectly services his development)
since its another multiverse type thing
Im Not Going to Lie I Think Venom 3 would have spiderman in it before spiderman 4 having venom. Would still connect MCU to Venom but Kraven could come to as a trade off of charcaters for both movies
Interesting that Kevin said. A villian who is cool but has a disheartening role.... key word ....disheartening
The definition means ...to cause someone to lose confidence or determination. Interesting. Which villian would cause Peter to lose confidence and determination?
They can bring over morbious, in the cartoon spider man confronted him, and it can help connect blade
That's the only reason I can see with them bringing morbious
I think it would be stupid of them not to use the symbiote left behind and just leave it a plothole
Hopefully prowler will be in spiderman 4
Even back to Black Panther 1, Ryan Coogler wanted Kraven teased in that film. They've been wanting to use Kraven for the longest, and they should. The Kraven movie most likely will be bad (but we don't know how it turn out just yet) but knowing Sony, they aren't the best. However, I really want Kraven in the mcu some point.
No no no. I love Tom hardy but they need a fresh new more comic accurate venom/eddie Brock for the MCU. They set up the black goo at the end of NWH. NOT Tom Hardy’s venom. Alan richtson (reacher) would be a great Eddie Brock.
Nope
It would have to be tom age
Plus they have no time to make a new venom
I think it’s most likely kraven Spider-Man NWH was originally supposed to be with kraven and they already have a bit of the venom symbiote making him a obvious choice
Actually nwh was originally about identities with the chameleon, then disney wanted kraven to be wakandan.
The fergalicious five 💀
All of those villains was supposed to be in the amazing spider man universe but they scrapped everything
I think there are reasons for all of them. Morbious is a great character, it’s just the movie sucked. But that could bring Blade officially in.
I think Feige was talking about Kraven since Venom is already technically part of the MCU. However I honestly wouldn’t hate the idea of Morbius being in the MCU either. NOW HEAR ME OUT!!! Morbius had terrible writing in his movie. Just hire new writers to do him right. I think he’d be a cool villain for Spider-Man to fight. All the MCU has to do is not have the same writers as the Morbius movie
King im black would go hard af 😮
I was thinking it was probably William Dafoe’s Green Goblin. Given what he did in No Way Home I think making him a recurring villain would be the thing to do.
What if its morbius? with blade coming out, we could get a team up after his movie to introduce him or he could show up in the spiderman movie to reveal him (like in the 90s spiderman show)
Knull would be a good one to get. Let Sony have their TASM vs Venom movie, but then follow it up with a huge multiversal crossover in the MCU.
They were heavy talking about saving black suit for secret wars. Last I heard.
I just hope Tom Hardy can fight Spiderman at least once to end his story with a bang
Venom but just as the voice.
The reason why they didnt use the full sinister 6 is because sony wants to do a standalone movie for them they wouldnt allow them to be put in a movie now deh
Mister Negative would be cool to have in the MCU & have Randall Park portray him
There I am Gary, there I am.
There's a large possibility that it'll be Venom because of what Tom Hardy's Venom left behind but it'll be cool to see Kraven.
It could be rhino he’s going to be in kraven
Chris! Would have been an easy set up.. films starts off 3 month from part 3. Pete is on Spring Break and comes back with Venom!
I don't really want any of them facing off against MCU Spidey.
But I really do wanna see Hardy's Venom joining The Thunderbolts! 😅🤔
Hardy's Venom and Reynolds' Deadpool together in an R Rated Thunderbolts could be so good! 😫
Morbus is a cool character it’s a shame one shitty movie gives the character a bad rep
I honestly believe all these rumors we are hearing about spiderman 4 are just marvels plans for the next trilogy. Not really a single movie but we have the daredevil/kingpin story floating around, we know they have wanted a Kraven movie in the past maybe for 5, and we know they want to use venom. All potential and in my opinion great ideas for a street level spider-man trilogy.
That was what I heard also first like spiderman 4 scorpion, mister negative and kingpin. Spiderman 5 sinmister 6(616 and 688)vulture, scorpion, mister negative, kraven, morbius and kingpin. Spiderman 6 spidergedom morlun. not sure with venom but they say it Will be tom vs tom inn venom 3 and venom Will be on team spiderman inn spiderman 6.(spiderman 6 team Will be tobey, Andrew, tom, miles, gween, venom and Miguel)
Praying for morbius
Just give me symbiote Tom.
I think in spider-man 4, Kingpin should be the main villain. But I think there should be two side villains as well, like scorpion & Chameleon. They set up the sinister 6 with kinpin recruiting both of them. They set up the sinister 6 even more where in spider-man 5 where spider-man faces kraven the hunter and rhino who are then recruited by kingpin to form the sinister 6. Then in spider-man 6 you have Peter, daredevil, miles and black cat vs the sinister 6 who consists of vulture, scorpion, rhino, kravin, Chameleon and morbius.
You can even add into the story of kingpin trying to recruite black cat but her turning them down and they hunt her too which is how she joins peter in battle and plus throughout the movie there romantically involved.
Fergolicious Five 😂
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I think they should put Kraven, Scorpion, Venom and Green Goblin
But, I want Morbius to Morb in the MCU 🥺
Kraven was supposed to be in black panther, if they couldn’t get him then why would they want him now. Venom has the black suit in the mcu, again if they wanted to they could’ve had especially with the whole symbiote thing in love and thunder. I honestly think it’s morbius as he contributes to the overall mcu and not just Spiderman, if done right he could not only contribute to Spiderman but also a blade movie and also play a key role in a midnight suns. As much as I hated the movie and character, it’s gotta be morbius
what if it's like this...
In Venom 3 he shifts to the TASM universe and he fights Andrew's Spider-Man he kills Andrew's Spidey then in a post credit he shifts back to the MCU again and wanted to find Tom's Spider-Man and then they'll continue this story in the Spider-Man 4 Versus Venom and he kills the Venom and Eddie but the Symbiote gets onto him and the Symbiote carries on to corrupt him during Avengers 5 and Secret Wars.
I honestly think they want Kraven the Hunter. It be awesome to see Kraven as the next villain for Spider-Man 4. But I honestly want to see Scorpion as the next main villain.
I’d love to see both Kraven and Venom in the MCU somehow
It will never happen
@@BobbyMoore2-mp8wbwe're getting venom due to the NWH credits scene.
Bad idea..unless it's Michael Keaton's Vulture
Maybe the Fearsome four ( Kraven Morbius Venom and Vulture) or the Terror Three
My prediction for the next Spider-Man Trilogy
S-M 4: Kraven
S-M 5: Venom
S-M 6: Green Goblin
I’m a new scooper. It’s the spot.