I was looking for a video on this topic because of severe arthritis I have developed in my hands. I’m not at all interested in riding an automatic transmission motorcycle, but I found myself going on shorter and shorter rides due to arthritic pain that I thought might leave me stranded some day simply because I couldn’t pull in the clutch. This technique will take a lot of the pressure off my left hand and hopefully enable me to enjoy long back roads riding again. Thanks for the info. As usual, you explained it thoroughly snd concisely.
This channel is really helpful to me, a bikeless eurobro 😥 its really helping me to get ready for that sweet sweet day I get to completely screw up the rest of my life with dank whoolies and turbo busas. Thanks papa Yam!
eurobro... do whatever it takes to get urself a bike! even a 250 if need be. there's nothing in this lifetime that equates to the freedom of an open road, full tank and U & ur bike. @ 43 I waited too long but now... nothing can stop me from riding! best of luck & be safe!
I am a new rider a I have accidentally done this several times and all I could think was I'm really messing up my clutch... thank you for this video...it has helped me more than you know
I clutchless upshift almost exclusively. I can do it on downshift too but it's much more difficult so I don't do it very often. I think it's a useful skill to learn both ways as if you are ever stuck with a snapped clutch cable and no way to fix it you can still get home with relatively little drama. You'll still have trouble setting off and stopping without a clutch thought.
@@Dominus_Potatus Downshift you really need to know your speed/bike and match the revs when you downshift, once you get good at it, it is pretty much a blip of the throttle.
@@Dominus_Potatus It's basically the opposite of upshifting. You're slowing down so you give it some throttle and downshift. It's much harder to get right.
@@Dominus_Potatus it's easier to think of it in terms of load on the transmission. You can shift either way as long as the transmission is unloaded. Under acceleration or constant speed force is being transferred from the engine through the transmission to the rear wheel. Under decelleration the force is transferred in the opposite direction. Therefore when you switch between the two conditions there is a short period of time where the transmission is unloaded and you can shift without the clutch. If you're accelerating, you therefore need to let off the throttle briefly to achieve this. You can then up or downshift as you like. Equally, if you're slowing down, you have to blip the throttle to start accelerating again in order to shift. Again you can up or downshift. The only difference between the two is that when upshifting, the engine will always end at lower revs after the shift, whereas with downshifting it will be higher revs. This means that you need a lot more finesse to downshift successfully, or your engine will be suddenly brought up to higher revs, which is not smooth or good for the engine. So when downshifting you need to consider the ending revs. If you're decelerating you need quite a bit of throttle. If you're accelerating you need to drop off the throttle and get back on it pretty hard to match revs. All of this happens in a fraction of a second so it requires you to know your bike well, and it's all about feel.
Clutch-less shifted for most of the life of my current bike. 2008 Harley Street Glide with 140,000 miles and original clutch. It can be done on any bike. Also not mentioned, clutch-less shifting extends the life of you clutch if done right, as there is no engage and disengage of the clutch for every shift. Kind of like engine braking extends the life of your brakes :)
CLUTCHES AND BRAKES ARE WEARABLE, REPLACEABLE, CHEAP PARTS, TRANSMISSIONS AND ENGINES ARE NOT. TO EACH HIS OWN THO... JUST TIME THOSE SHIFTS RIGHT.. AND YOUR GOOD I GUESS.
Its not as "easy" on your transmission, but gears are a lot stronger than you would think. I had my transmission refreshed at 95k miles and they said my gears were fine. Maybe the smaller components dont like it...?
@@HJZ75driver If wet clutches are used sparingly, not abused and don't have a lot of aggressive slipping apllied they will last quite a long damn time. However to just flat out say they don't wear is inaccurate at best. The basic principle of friction = wear should give you a hint. A clutch is more than JUST friction plates and wear occurs in common spots throughout the assembly, though the design does play a large part in more or less wearing of certain parts. ruclips.net/video/O2BFS7pYc_0/видео.html That is an excellent example of a clutch whos plates are all still within spec after 300,000 miles! There is still wear but most is in other areas of the basket. Wore to the point it needs replacing (as he says the plates could have actually been re-used!) Maybe things like this is where you get the idea that they don't wear but it is definitely a misconception.
Until recently, I was the owner of several motorcycles: 2006 HD CVO Screamin' Eagle Fat Boy, 2004 Honda VFR, 1972 Honda CB 350-F. Having sold everything, including my 1993 Mazda Miata, I now retain only the '04 VFR which is ridden daily (36k miles) and clutchless upshift almost exclusively since purchasing new. I did try this several times on the Harley, and I'll just say this; you'd better be good, I'm talking flawlessly good, at clutchless upshifting on a Harley. They have, especially the 103ci SE engines, incredible torque and, well, Harley transmissions, know what I mean? I blew out a low gear that I cannot definitively attribute to my shifting routine, but HD's aren't the most forgiving rides. I can thrash the VFR all day without issue. The Harley, not so much. Oh, the '72 CB 350-F, no issues with this exercise at all, same as the VFR.
Except a semi-auto is still an auto and won't let you change gear if it detects you're gonna do a very bad shift. That's why I stick with manual in both cars and bikes.
@@Player1original No semi-auto on bikes is a manual shift with a centrifugal type clutch that you don’t manually engage. You will still have a shifter, you will still have 1 down 4 up 1 down 5 up etc, just no lever on your left bar or clip on.
@@muddytiresmtb7415 What? Ummm, no were talking about clutchless manuals/centrifugal clutches. Sequential transmissions are a whole other thing entirely; that would be where there is no pattern to the shifting, up shift is just up and downshift is just down. That’s what a sequential manual gearbox is. What we are talking about is like on a Honda 250 EX or something, a clutchless manual aka centrifugal clutch because it does indeed have a clutch you the rider just aren’t modulating it manually.
"this displeases lord rossi and tbh It's not aerodynamic." I literally almost spit out the water i was drinking when you said that. lession learned don't drink anything while watching clammy plub
This guys is hilarious! And informative. I ride clutchless on my Yammie R3 and just got an R6 which I will set up for track days only. Planning to install Quick Shifter on that bike. Thanks Dude!
Clutchless upshifting on the r3 is quite smooth after 2nd gear haven't tried clutchless downshifting though..can't get it quite right..I'll revmatch like a boss all day long though!
I've been riding for the past 20 yrs & have been using clutch-less shifting without even knowing that its a technique. For a fact, I learnt how to do it when my clutch cable popped out & had to reach home riding clutch-less. Of course I had to get a little momentum only for the 1st gear, the rest was a breeze. Now I ride a KTM Duke 390 & I do clutch-less mostly 4th, 5th & 6th. I've also been following Ari & I miss him... Thanks for the video.., been following you too
Hey Yammie. I clutchless up shift on my CB1300 so when I had the opportunity to ride a 2018 CBR1000RR I found using the quick shifter a piece of cake however using the downshift with autoblipper took a bit of getting used to. Once I got used to it it was great but I still like using the clutch to rev match on my 1300. Liked your video. Cheers
I added the optional Yamaha Quick shifter to my 2017 R6 weeks after taking delivery and loved it so much I wanted the ability to downshift also so I went and installed FTECU setup. My god!!! I use the system everyday I go out!!! It is a god send!!!
Clutchless upshifting is like a dream. You litterally just release a little bit of throttle, hit that shiftlever and pull that throttle again. - Downshift; revmatch and pop-crackle your way down to the preferred speed :)
Sad that so many people are watching motorcycle videos who don't have bikes. Save up like $2k and buy a cheapie on KSL/Craigslist/Ebay, it doesn't matter how nice your bike is, it matters that you experience it... safely.
I started on a $300 ninja 250 that wasn't pretty and didn't run when I got it, but learned a lot about bikes, rebuilt the engine, and for $500 had a running machine. Then went to a $1000 Katana 600, now an 06 FZ1. :) Started cheap, but the addiction took over and I now have quite a bit invested.
You don't seem to understand that the predominant age group for this channel isn't fully fledged adults, but young adults and teenagers. Plus saving up "like 2k" for a bike isn't all that easy in much of the world. Then there's other costs, and pleople that are detered by the risks, family members, and all that jazz.
@@ThaSideWeed True, you can get in cheaper often, especially where saving that much up is more of a challenge, but the risk and family pressure is a big one, especially for the younger would-be riders, who need the family to give the bike the OK to get off the ground. Plus a reasonable helmet and gear is a good investment when you start, since you're likely to need/use them more (in the protective rather than just worn sense), and that adds to the $$$. Then road/registration costs, basic insurance, etc etc.
I clutchless shift my 2019 goldwing and my gixxers all the time without issue. I don it on my Toyota Tacoma as well without issue. As long as you do it properly it wont hurt anything.
Careful on the Tacoma. You can do it on the bikes because they are sequential transmissions. The Tacoma doesn’t have a sequential trans, and uses synchronizers to match everything up. You can destroy the synchros by not using the clutch.
I own a 2021 tao tao tbr7 with a few choice upgrades. I absolutely love clutchless shifting. I haven't been riding on the road for long but I used to ride dirt bikes years ago and it's something I used to do on my dirt bike as well. It's always felt smoother, more natural, and I'm even convinced it allows me to go accelerate a hair quicker.
i went from clutchless shifting on my yamaha vstar 650, to quick shifting and auto blipping on my ducati diavel v4, and im 100% sold on a quick shifter/auto blipper. it does feel a little like a semi auto bike, but i still get the exact same enjoyment out of it as i did without the quickshifter/autoblipper
Clutchless shifting is awesome! Thanks to the RUclips motorcycle community for turning me on to it. Fantastic way to shave a second or two off your 0-60 or 1/4 mile time. Couple of suggestions: try on your sub $3k beginner bike first. Also, know that you need to commit to a WOT situation and from 2nd gear on up. Can’t go clutchless on 1 to 2 shifts. Lastly, don’t take to redline until you’ve got a feel for it. Missing a shift at redline (putting back into same gear) doesn’t look, sound or feel cool in any way.
I didn't know that you can clutchless with any bike... until I saw your video... It really changes my ride style. If I want it fast, I do not use clutch. If I just want to enjoy, using clutch deliver smooth transition.
WOOOOW son, I grew up with a standard clutch as you explained perfectly, and believe clutchless shifting will damage my gearbox, I have also ridden a bike with a slipper clutch, but that's a different story! I believe the clutch was designed with the gearboxes life in mind and not using the clutch may gain a second or two on a track but I believe the transmission was designed BY the manufacturer to be used WITH a clutch. I do realise a quickshifter is a different story but why change over 100 years of tried and tested riding. ps loved the video mate:)
My friend has a cbr600rr with over 10k miles and has never had an issue with his transmission, his older brother with an R1 taught him that from the get go and he passed that on to me after I had about 2k miles on my cbr1000rr I gotta say 6k miles later clutch less upshift and downshifts make faster more responsive riding when accelerating and decelerating, its amazing on a sportbike and you should definitely try it out! 👌👍
I personally don't like any kind of shifting/clutch assistance on my faster motorcycles but I really love the Auto-Clutch on my Harley. There is nothing more enjoyable than an automatic clutch that turns my Harley into an Piaggio scooter while standing on the red light or stuck in the traffic 😂 Be prepared for one important thing while buying or letting install such an little "helper".. There are a few kinds of auto-clutch models that work differently. For example my Auto-Clutch is only kicking in if I'm in the first gear and the engine RPM is on idle. If I'm already driving, then I have to switch by myself from the first into the second gear and so on.
Advice, stay away from a Dynojet or sensor pressure switch QS...I used one of these on my Daytona 955i as I already had a PC3 sitting there doing nothing as I use Tune ECU 10181 map w/o SAI..The QS I used worked in both reverse and standard...You install the sensor in line with the shift rod. Either in between the rod, or at either end at the tie rod end. So you'll need to buy a new shift rod, Dynojet will help you with that. Then you set the fuel kill times by ,milliseconds. It is easy peasy to use if your have a PC3 or 5 as the software is there on Dynojets website for you to use.and download . If your bike has shift linkage. tie rod ends and a rod...it feels very notchy, and adjustment must be spot on to activate the sensor . It worked best when I was really super firm w/ the shift lever. You can also play with the fuel kill times..which helps , but mine always seemed notchy to the point it was annoying and I sold it. I then installed a Healtech, which works perfectly. It's a strain gauge system which is super sensitive to any touch on the lever. it senses movement on the shift linkage, shift bracket, shifter arm etc..it kills the engine using ignition. So you can mount it anywhere on the shift lever, rod, bracket..It works too good when compared to the Dynojet. The difference is you plug a set of wire leads/connectors between the spark plug coil stick leads and coil stick. Then find a ground,,,plug the leads into the Healtech brain box, mount that... and find a power lead as per instructions. You set shift via an app from Healtech. It works 10x better then a sensor pressure switch...a bit more expensive..around $310 vs $180 for the Dynojet but if your use the DJ you must have a Power Command 3 or 5. The Healtech is a hoot, especially with a triple..you just snick thru the gears WOT...the only downside, any pressure on the shift lever will kill the engine for that set period of time..so you cannot blip when downshifting...On the positive side, when you shift, the Healtech cuts the ignition, but not fuel for milliseconds, after the shift is completed, there's a little bit of extra fuel left in each cylinder, so you get a cool little pop as the fuel is re-ignited..Very Cool ! This is a very quick over view ...Need more info check out Dynojet and Healtech tutorials and customer videos on install.
The quick shiftier on my Ducati 1299 S sounds like an automatic up shifting ! Local driving, i never use quick shift up or down . Expressway, is where i love it !
Just started watching three days ago. Awesome channel yammy. Subscribed. I ride a sweet 2006 Honda cbr1000rr. Put alot of years and elbow grease on this baby.
Years ago racing KTMs in MX, we only used the clutch to stop and never used the brakes. We would bang down gears in the corners and cltchless upshifts. Never broke a tranny. Was sponsered so didnt have to worry about repairs anyway!
Well, the main reason for a clutch isn't to disconnect power to the rear wheel per se, it's for one (obviously) to be able to drive off but once you are moving, the clutch is used to not fuck up your gearbox by shifting into another gear with the load of the entire engine on the gears. As the Teeth are only partly engaged, the load is transmitted through a far too small contact patch, resulting in considerably higher pressure and stress and it will drastically increase the wear on the gear, that is why a quickshifter cuts the ignition rather than closing the throttle, which is a much greater reduction in load to the gears than simply lifting off. The best example for this difference is this: if you lift of the throttle, there is still enough firepower, that you only slowly decelerate. However if your engine were to completely stop ingition, you'd feel like your rear wheel is about to lock. Ask Racers what happens, if your engine completely stops working mid corner. Or this: if you have the clutch pulled in, and you rev your bike, compare the speed in which the revs drop when simply lifting off compared to switching off the engine. I wouldn't recommend doing that at full revs to your bike, but this is just for explanations sake. So please don't shift clutchless, it WILL drastically increase wear and you'll have gear sand slushing around your 'box. I bet if you were to drain the Gearbox oil from a motorcycle that's been shifted without the clutch for a long time, the oil will look like fairydust has been dropped into it. I may just be an engineering student, but basic technical mechanics tell you that this is a rather stupid idea to have.
If you have a tricky upshift, try making a heel and toe pedal; a good stomp with the heel is so satisfying. Never miss 3rd again! Use some sense and it should be the best value for money mod` ever.
I shifted into 6th without my clutch on my little CBR125R quite by accident the first time. So I decided to try it on purpose and holy fuck! I do it all the time now, and the quick ass up shifts still make me melt a bit inside. I absolutely love it! I'm even nailing 1st to 2nd :)
Been upshifting clutchless for a year on my 05 R6 and its brilliant to do and downshifting isn't hard but you know ALL about it when you don't get it right so if you haven't got a quick shifter stick to just the upshifts!
I did clutchless shifting unknowingly at times and wondered what did I do wrong. Now I know, I was doing the right thing. Now, I just need to do it knowingly
haven't had the opportunity to try a quick shifter but you hit the nail on the head for me with the sometimes I wanna bang gears and sometimes I use the clutch and shift at normal speed hey yammie you keep giving us stats on people without a bike that follow you. you should do a survey and find out stats on experienced riders that follow you I'm wondering how much of a minority I am. I've been riding street almost 14 years now. started on a 1985 honda 350 enduro then at 18 made the insane jump to an r1 but I still have that r1 and haven't been down on it yet. got my second track day coming up in a few weeks too. she ain't babied. anyways this rambled on but ya love the content keep it up.
Quick-shifter is almost Throttle by wire. There will be a time when: computer says no.. Have I used it? No. Am I willing to try ? Sure, at least to know how does it feel. As for clutch less shifting.. Depends on the day and the RPM (means that somehow I'm late for work) and I just love it. Seems the whole bike agrees with me as well. Long live the TRUE mechanics and skill
I don't think the quick shifter ecu cuts the ignition, but instead the fuel. I am pretty sure it cuts the fuel for a few miliseconds. If it were to cut the ignition, unburned gasses would enter the exhaust and cause a pretty loud backfire when the spark comes back on. Try it by pressing the emergency stop kill switch while riding on an older motorcycle. Those turn off the ignition only. It's kind of fun to do in tunnels.
Clutchless shift almost every ride on my 636. Only do it in slow traffic like you mention or if I just want to by habit. I do have a 520 vortex conversion but just my way of having fun. Also find it great on the track IMO.
Going clutchless is simple and easy, apply and hold a little pressure on the shifter lever, let off the throttle and click it shifts all easy like. There is no need to force it. The gears will shift when they want. Up shift every time without it becomes second nature.
I used to shift cars without the clutch all the time but haven't really started with my bike yet.. except for one time when I forgot to pull the clutch lol
yay i'm a fancy dude, clutcless up- and downshifts on the daily R1, but yeah imma get a translogic intellishift quickshifter (QS), too bad my bike isn't recent enough to install an autoblipper or i'd probably get that too. not all QS cut the ignition, there are different types but most of them do that. some, like the dynojet which operates in conjunction with a powercommander actually cut fuel injection so create the same unloading of power, the thing that translogic does so differently is that it doesn't cut ignition, but it adjusts the timing of it to reduce and restore power smoother. these QS are used in moto3 and moto2 and are according to translogic and a bunch of grand prix riders the absolute closest you can get to the seamless shifting a motogp bike has, because those have physically different gearboxes it's impossible to create such a smooth shift on a streetbike but it's dang close. i've also found that a lot of motorcycle manufacturers use translogic qs as their "from factory" equipment.
Biscotti rider checking in, I use the clutch when putting around town and QS when riding hard. Sometimes fun to make some pop pops with a termi no baffle on decel with the QS downshift. No autoblipper on the Supersport S
I use clutch-less shifting on my dirtbike all the time and it feels just as smooth as using the clutch, I up and down shift clutch-less and really the only reason to use the clutch is to go super slow or if your a beginner and still learning, I will note that on my Honda shadow 759 street bike I use the clutch 100% of the time.
There's no mention of clutchless down shifting? Do you ever do that? I do occasionally. It's a fine art to master but is info that could be shared to the young squids that want to know. As always, good content. Love to watch your vids! Take care, ride safe 😁
it's not blipping to rev match at all, because as Talen states, you cannot rev match a higher rev as that does put power to the system... or loads the system You are blipping purely to release power from the trans.... or unloading the system, so that you can shift... When down shifting you really don't want to blip too much throttle or it will be quite a snap....
I always used the clutch until I learnt how to drive a road ranger gear box. Seems much smother without the clutch on all my bikes going up or down. Never used a quick shift, looks cool.
I am riding for 3 and half years now. doing clutchless shifts for more than 2 years now. It's more fun on twistys or hilly areas where I have to keep changing gears quickly.. and few months back I was talking to my friends and found out it's not a common practice and I thought damn.. and then on you tube also read funny and dumb comments on videos of clutchless shifting and then only found out that its done by very few people.
I’ve been almost exclusively clutchless shifting since about 3 months into riding. I absolutely love it. Considering getting a quick shifter on my Street triple though.
Your first video saved my ass when I started riding. Three weeks into riding my bike I got an air bubble in the clutch line while I was out of cell service and in a remote area. Not knowing what was wrong besides my clutch not working, I used the information from your video to slam those gears and get myself to the next town and a garage. Once it wasn't a matter of being stranded on the roadside, I practiced doing it all day. Now I do it whenever I gotta whoop up on that Harley bro in the next lane.
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I love that you admit when you make a mistake, and that you put it right when you do.
Admirable quality.
I was looking for a video on this topic because of severe arthritis I have developed in my hands. I’m not at all interested in riding an automatic transmission motorcycle, but I found myself going on shorter and shorter rides due to arthritic pain that I thought might leave me stranded some day simply because I couldn’t pull in the clutch. This technique will take a lot of the pressure off my left hand and hopefully enable me to enjoy long back roads riding again. Thanks for the info. As usual, you explained it thoroughly snd concisely.
This channel is really helpful to me, a bikeless eurobro 😥 its really helping me to get ready for that sweet sweet day I get to completely screw up the rest of my life with dank whoolies and turbo busas. Thanks papa Yam!
If not done exactly right, you will destroy your gearbox. Shift forks can't handle a sudden shock, nor can the gear dogs. This takes experience.
Sarcasm: spell it...
@@Yvolve as I don't yet have a bike I won't be trying this for some time! But maybe one day I will be able to do it.
eurobro... do whatever it takes to get urself a bike! even a 250 if need be. there's nothing in this lifetime that equates to the freedom of an open road, full tank and U & ur bike. @ 43 I waited too long but now... nothing can stop me from riding! best of luck & be safe!
@@jamestoh3522 Learn on a POS that wouldn't look twice at, saves a lot of money!
Officially out of the bikeless bros club 😎
Congrats man. I got out this july
Congratulations man. Hope you're riding good.
I literally got out this Saturday 😂
🤟🏻🤟🏻
Are you somebody that we just used to know now..
I am a new rider a I have accidentally done this several times and all I could think was I'm really messing up my clutch... thank you for this video...it has helped me more than you know
"help my pp is glued to my belly button" 0:04 😂
Did you replay the first 5-10 secods so you would get 10 mins
Haha, I watched it 5 times because I thought my phone is freaking out and playing same part again so I was reversing to see if it'll play normally xd
its.not.replayed
RUclips actually changed their rules so midrol ads are at 8-minute videos now
I was like wth lmao
I clutchless upshift almost exclusively. I can do it on downshift too but it's much more difficult so I don't do it very often. I think it's a useful skill to learn both ways as if you are ever stuck with a snapped clutch cable and no way to fix it you can still get home with relatively little drama. You'll still have trouble setting off and stopping without a clutch thought.
Really? How yo downshift clutchless??
Whrn upshift, I let go the throtle for a moment, and give the throttle again.
How to do downshift?
@@Dominus_Potatus Downshift you really need to know your speed/bike and match the revs when you downshift, once you get good at it, it is pretty much a blip of the throttle.
@@Dominus_Potatus It's basically the opposite of upshifting. You're slowing down so you give it some throttle and downshift. It's much harder to get right.
@@cherrypieforever Oh... so you throttle first then downshift?
@@Dominus_Potatus it's easier to think of it in terms of load on the transmission. You can shift either way as long as the transmission is unloaded.
Under acceleration or constant speed force is being transferred from the engine through the transmission to the rear wheel. Under decelleration the force is transferred in the opposite direction. Therefore when you switch between the two conditions there is a short period of time where the transmission is unloaded and you can shift without the clutch.
If you're accelerating, you therefore need to let off the throttle briefly to achieve this. You can then up or downshift as you like.
Equally, if you're slowing down, you have to blip the throttle to start accelerating again in order to shift. Again you can up or downshift.
The only difference between the two is that when upshifting, the engine will always end at lower revs after the shift, whereas with downshifting it will be higher revs.
This means that you need a lot more finesse to downshift successfully, or your engine will be suddenly brought up to higher revs, which is not smooth or good for the engine. So when downshifting you need to consider the ending revs. If you're decelerating you need quite a bit of throttle. If you're accelerating you need to drop off the throttle and get back on it pretty hard to match revs.
All of this happens in a fraction of a second so it requires you to know your bike well, and it's all about feel.
Clutch-less shifted for most of the life of my current bike. 2008 Harley Street Glide with 140,000 miles and original clutch. It can be done on any bike.
Also not mentioned, clutch-less shifting extends the life of you clutch if done right, as there is no engage and disengage of the clutch for every shift. Kind of like engine braking extends the life of your brakes :)
CLUTCHES AND BRAKES ARE WEARABLE, REPLACEABLE, CHEAP PARTS, TRANSMISSIONS AND ENGINES ARE NOT.
TO EACH HIS OWN THO... JUST TIME THOSE SHIFTS RIGHT.. AND YOUR GOOD I GUESS.
good for your clutch, not great for your transmission... i used to do it but i've had a change of mind...
motorcycle clutches dont wear, as they’re a WET clutch (No...Ducati bros not you), They very rarely wear out. sitting in an oil bath
Its not as "easy" on your transmission, but gears are a lot stronger than you would think. I had my transmission refreshed at 95k miles and they said my gears were fine. Maybe the smaller components dont like it...?
@@HJZ75driver If wet clutches are used sparingly, not abused and don't have a lot of aggressive slipping apllied they will last quite a long damn time. However to just flat out say they don't wear is inaccurate at best. The basic principle of friction = wear should give you a hint. A clutch is more than JUST friction plates and wear occurs in common spots throughout the assembly, though the design does play a large part in more or less wearing of certain parts. ruclips.net/video/O2BFS7pYc_0/видео.html That is an excellent example of a clutch whos plates are all still within spec after 300,000 miles! There is still wear but most is in other areas of the basket. Wore to the point it needs replacing (as he says the plates could have actually been re-used!) Maybe things like this is where you get the idea that they don't wear but it is definitely a misconception.
Until recently, I was the owner of several motorcycles: 2006 HD CVO Screamin' Eagle Fat Boy, 2004 Honda VFR, 1972 Honda CB 350-F. Having sold everything, including my 1993 Mazda Miata, I now retain only the '04 VFR which is ridden daily (36k miles) and clutchless upshift almost exclusively since purchasing new. I did try this several times on the Harley, and I'll just say this; you'd better be good, I'm talking flawlessly good, at clutchless upshifting on a Harley. They have, especially the 103ci SE engines, incredible torque and, well, Harley transmissions, know what I mean? I blew out a low gear that I cannot definitively attribute to my shifting routine, but HD's aren't the most forgiving rides. I can thrash the VFR all day without issue. The Harley, not so much. Oh, the '72 CB 350-F, no issues with this exercise at all, same as the VFR.
David Semick because it doesn’t have enough power to dent any gears hahahahaha.
So a quick shifter is like having a semi automatic well you know right as I was typing this he answered me
Except a semi-auto is still an auto and won't let you change gear if it detects you're gonna do a very bad shift. That's why I stick with manual in both cars and bikes.
@@Player1original No semi-auto on bikes is a manual shift with a centrifugal type clutch that you don’t manually engage. You will still have a shifter, you will still have 1 down 4 up 1 down 5 up etc, just no lever on your left bar or clip on.
Not trying to sound mean but its called a sequential transmission
@@muddytiresmtb7415 What? Ummm, no were talking about clutchless manuals/centrifugal clutches. Sequential transmissions are a whole other thing entirely; that would be where there is no pattern to the shifting, up shift is just up and downshift is just down. That’s what a sequential manual gearbox is. What we are talking about is like on a Honda 250 EX or something, a clutchless manual aka centrifugal clutch because it does indeed have a clutch you the rider just aren’t modulating it manually.
@@muddytiresmtb7415 I don't think i've ever seen someone so lost and confident at the same time
"this displeases lord rossi and tbh It's not aerodynamic." I literally almost spit out the water i was drinking when you said that. lession learned don't drink anything while watching clammy plub
Same. Also that fact at the ending cracked me up aswell😂😂
This guys is hilarious! And informative. I ride clutchless on my Yammie R3 and just got an R6 which I will set up for track days only. Planning to install Quick Shifter on that bike. Thanks Dude!
Clutchless upshifting on the r3 is quite smooth after 2nd gear haven't tried clutchless downshifting though..can't get it quite right..I'll revmatch like a boss all day long though!
Been shifting clutchless for a long time on my dirt bike, it's so satisfying!
I've been riding for the past 20 yrs & have been using clutch-less shifting without even knowing that its a technique. For a fact, I learnt how to do it when my clutch cable popped out & had to reach home riding clutch-less. Of course I had to get a little momentum only for the 1st gear, the rest was a breeze. Now I ride a KTM Duke 390 & I do clutch-less mostly 4th, 5th & 6th. I've also been following Ari & I miss him... Thanks for the video.., been following you too
Hey Yammie. I clutchless up shift on my CB1300 so when I had the opportunity to ride a 2018 CBR1000RR I found using the quick shifter a piece of cake however using the downshift with autoblipper took a bit of getting used to. Once I got used to it it was great but I still like using the clutch to rev match on my 1300. Liked your video. Cheers
I love to clutches shift it just feels amazing banging through the gears as fast as possible
I added the optional Yamaha Quick shifter to my 2017 R6 weeks after taking delivery and loved it so much I wanted the ability to downshift also so I went and installed FTECU setup. My god!!! I use the system everyday I go out!!! It is a god send!!!
The best videos are the ones that start with dialogue loops LOL
Clutchless upshifting is like a dream. You litterally just release a little bit of throttle, hit that shiftlever and pull that throttle again. - Downshift; revmatch and pop-crackle your way down to the preferred speed :)
man love that you're repping the isle of man on your brake fluid bottle.
Sad that so many people are watching motorcycle videos who don't have bikes.
Save up like $2k and buy a cheapie on KSL/Craigslist/Ebay, it doesn't matter how nice your bike is, it matters that you experience it... safely.
I started on a $300 ninja 250 that wasn't pretty and didn't run when I got it, but learned a lot about bikes, rebuilt the engine, and for $500 had a running machine. Then went to a $1000 Katana 600, now an 06 FZ1. :)
Started cheap, but the addiction took over and I now have quite a bit invested.
You don't seem to understand that the predominant age group for this channel isn't fully fledged adults, but young adults and teenagers.
Plus saving up "like 2k" for a bike isn't all that easy in much of the world.
Then there's other costs, and pleople that are detered by the risks, family members, and all that jazz.
@@ThaSideWeed Fair point on saving up a couple grand - I just found myself working young and having a good job by the age of 20.
@@ThaSideWeed Cool
@@ThaSideWeed True, you can get in cheaper often, especially where saving that much up is more of a challenge, but the risk and family pressure is a big one, especially for the younger would-be riders, who need the family to give the bike the OK to get off the ground.
Plus a reasonable helmet and gear is a good investment when you start, since you're likely to need/use them more (in the protective rather than just worn sense), and that adds to the $$$. Then road/registration costs, basic insurance, etc etc.
I clutchless shift my 2019 goldwing and my gixxers all the time without issue. I don it on my Toyota Tacoma as well without issue. As long as you do it properly it wont hurt anything.
Careful on the Tacoma. You can do it on the bikes because they are sequential transmissions.
The Tacoma doesn’t have a sequential trans, and uses synchronizers to match everything up. You can destroy the synchros by not using the clutch.
I own a 2021 tao tao tbr7 with a few choice upgrades. I absolutely love clutchless shifting. I haven't been riding on the road for long but I used to ride dirt bikes years ago and it's something I used to do on my dirt bike as well. It's always felt smoother, more natural, and I'm even convinced it allows me to go accelerate a hair quicker.
Yammie Noob notifications always put a smile on my face!
Dyno jet quick shifter on my ZX14R,I love it
Just watched your other (old) video last night. Woke up today and saw the new vid like "Didn't I just watch this?!". Nice follow up!!
i went from clutchless shifting on my yamaha vstar 650, to quick shifting and auto blipping on my ducati diavel v4, and im 100% sold on a quick shifter/auto blipper. it does feel a little like a semi auto bike, but i still get the exact same enjoyment out of it as i did without the quickshifter/autoblipper
Finally, something advertised that i can fully stand by. THANK YOU BYEBYE PUBES AND MANSCAPED ❤
Clutchless shifting is awesome! Thanks to the RUclips motorcycle community for turning me on to it. Fantastic way to shave a second or two off your 0-60 or 1/4 mile time. Couple of suggestions: try on your sub $3k beginner bike first. Also, know that you need to commit to a WOT situation and from 2nd gear on up. Can’t go clutchless on 1 to 2 shifts. Lastly, don’t take to redline until you’ve got a feel for it. Missing a shift at redline (putting back into same gear) doesn’t look, sound or feel cool in any way.
Yammie dude
Brightening my mood
Here on this Wednesday afternoon.
Nah it’s 10 in the morning
Bring back It came from Craigslist
Same
Oh u so had a chance to put the Jar Jar Yousa buy a Turbo Busa Poem in the video at the beginning...
Clutchless shifts are amazing. So peaceful.
Clutch less shifting for dayssss, it's so satisfying to downshift without a clutch!! I love you papa yam
Dude these videos are sick keep them up. I look forward to them
I didn't know that you can clutchless with any bike... until I saw your video...
It really changes my ride style.
If I want it fast, I do not use clutch.
If I just want to enjoy, using clutch deliver smooth transition.
Sport bikes and sport naked bikes shift smoother without the clutch.
WOOOOW son, I grew up with a standard clutch as you explained perfectly, and believe clutchless shifting will damage my gearbox, I have also ridden a bike with a slipper clutch, but that's a different story!
I believe the clutch was designed with the gearboxes life in mind and not using the clutch may gain a second or two on a track but I believe the transmission was designed BY the manufacturer to be used WITH a clutch.
I do realise a quickshifter is a different story but why change over 100 years of tried and tested riding.
ps loved the video mate:)
My friend has a cbr600rr with over 10k miles and has never had an issue with his transmission, his older brother with an R1 taught him that from the get go and he passed that on to me after I had about 2k miles on my cbr1000rr I gotta say 6k miles later clutch less upshift and downshifts make faster more responsive riding when accelerating and decelerating, its amazing on a sportbike and you should definitely try it out! 👌👍
Omg so many nice decent videos all the time from gummy cube☺. I can't handle it anymore😅. I'll soon need a "to do" list for those😂
I personally don't like any kind of shifting/clutch assistance on my faster motorcycles but I really love the Auto-Clutch on my Harley. There is nothing more enjoyable than an automatic clutch that turns my Harley into an Piaggio scooter while standing on the red light or stuck in the traffic 😂
Be prepared for one important thing while buying or letting install such an little "helper"..
There are a few kinds of auto-clutch models that work differently.
For example my Auto-Clutch is only kicking in if I'm in the first gear and the engine RPM is on idle. If I'm already driving, then I have to switch by myself from the first into the second gear and so on.
Clutchless shifting cars and bikes and loving it
One thing I've noticed, and one of the main reasons I've subscribed, is that you can make fun of yourself right along with everyone else you mock.
2005 gsxr 1000. Use clutch for taking off from stops,, and WHEELIES. Thanks Yammie noob
Advice, stay away from a Dynojet or sensor pressure switch QS...I used one of these on my Daytona 955i as I already had a PC3 sitting there doing nothing as I use Tune ECU 10181 map w/o SAI..The QS I used worked in both reverse and standard...You install the sensor in line with the shift rod. Either in between the rod, or at either end at the tie rod end. So you'll need to buy a new shift rod, Dynojet will help you with that. Then you set the fuel kill times by ,milliseconds. It is easy peasy to use if your have a PC3 or 5 as the software is there on Dynojets website for you to use.and download . If your bike has shift linkage. tie rod ends and a rod...it feels very notchy, and adjustment must be spot on to activate the sensor . It worked best when I was really super firm w/ the shift lever. You can also play with the fuel kill times..which helps , but mine always seemed notchy to the point it was annoying and I sold it. I then installed a Healtech, which works perfectly. It's a strain gauge system which is super sensitive to any touch on the lever. it senses movement on the shift linkage, shift bracket, shifter arm etc..it kills the engine using ignition. So you can mount it anywhere on the shift lever, rod, bracket..It works too good when compared to the Dynojet. The difference is you plug a set of wire leads/connectors between the spark plug coil stick leads and coil stick. Then find a ground,,,plug the leads into the Healtech brain box, mount that... and find a power lead as per instructions. You set shift via an app from Healtech. It works 10x better then a sensor pressure switch...a bit more expensive..around $310 vs $180 for the Dynojet but if your use the DJ you must have a Power Command 3 or 5. The Healtech is a hoot, especially with a triple..you just snick thru the gears WOT...the only downside, any pressure on the shift lever will kill the engine for that set period of time..so you cannot blip when downshifting...On the positive side, when you shift, the Healtech cuts the ignition, but not fuel for milliseconds, after the shift is completed, there's a little bit of extra fuel left in each cylinder, so you get a cool little pop as the fuel is re-ignited..Very Cool ! This is a very quick over view ...Need more info check out Dynojet and Healtech tutorials and customer videos on install.
High strung Yammie is hilarious though! It’s why your vids are entertaining. Don’t back off the throttle too much.
The quick shiftier on my Ducati 1299 S sounds like an automatic up shifting ! Local driving, i never use quick shift up or down . Expressway, is where i love it !
Just started watching three days ago. Awesome channel yammy. Subscribed. I ride a sweet 2006 Honda cbr1000rr. Put alot of years and elbow grease on this baby.
Years ago racing KTMs in MX, we only used the clutch to stop and never used the brakes. We would bang down gears in the corners and cltchless upshifts. Never broke a tranny. Was sponsered so didnt have to worry about repairs anyway!
Not to be confused with an override in an atv which is better for racing. No ignition interrupt👍
Well, the main reason for a clutch isn't to disconnect power to the rear wheel per se, it's for one (obviously) to be able to drive off but once you are moving, the clutch is used to not fuck up your gearbox by shifting into another gear with the load of the entire engine on the gears.
As the Teeth are only partly engaged, the load is transmitted through a far too small contact patch, resulting in considerably higher pressure and stress and it will drastically increase the wear on the gear, that is why a quickshifter cuts the ignition rather than closing the throttle, which is a much greater reduction in load to the gears than simply lifting off.
The best example for this difference is this: if you lift of the throttle, there is still enough firepower, that you only slowly decelerate. However if your engine were to completely stop ingition, you'd feel like your rear wheel is about to lock. Ask Racers what happens, if your engine completely stops working mid corner.
Or this: if you have the clutch pulled in, and you rev your bike, compare the speed in which the revs drop when simply lifting off compared to switching off the engine. I wouldn't recommend doing that at full revs to your bike, but this is just for explanations sake.
So please don't shift clutchless, it WILL drastically increase wear and you'll have gear sand slushing around your 'box.
I bet if you were to drain the Gearbox oil from a motorcycle that's been shifted without the clutch for a long time, the oil will look like fairydust has been dropped into it.
I may just be an engineering student, but basic technical mechanics tell you that this is a rather stupid idea to have.
OMG it works. Smooth.
If you have a tricky upshift, try making a heel and toe pedal;
a good stomp with the heel is so satisfying. Never miss 3rd again!
Use some sense and it should be the best value for money mod` ever.
I shifted into 6th without my clutch on my little CBR125R quite by accident the first time. So I decided to try it on purpose and holy fuck! I do it all the time now, and the quick ass up shifts still make me melt a bit inside. I absolutely love it! I'm even nailing 1st to 2nd :)
Clutch-less shifting on KLR 650 very often, feels amazing but still love a good clutch feel :D
Been upshifting clutchless for a year on my 05 R6 and its brilliant to do and downshifting isn't hard but you know ALL about it when you don't get it right so if you haven't got a quick shifter stick to just the upshifts!
love the edit fail lmfaoo big fan, had me rewinding for 30 seconds askin if im trippin
2:58 Love the plessure plate!
I was thinking i was nuts lol
I did clutchless shifting unknowingly at times and wondered what did I do wrong. Now I know, I was doing the right thing. Now, I just need to do it knowingly
1:22 "it's not aerodynamic" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 laughed so hard
I do clutch less shifting just for fun though but usually at lower speeds, at higher speeds I trust the clutch because it gives me more control.
I've done clutch less up and down shifting, tried a few bikes with quick shifter, but I prefer to use the clutch
yammie be yammin' it... keep em coming!!!
haven't had the opportunity to try a quick shifter but you hit the nail on the head for me with the sometimes I wanna bang gears and sometimes I use the clutch and shift at normal speed hey yammie you keep giving us stats on people without a bike that follow you. you should do a survey and find out stats on experienced riders that follow you I'm wondering how much of a minority I am. I've been riding street almost 14 years now. started on a 1985 honda 350 enduro then at 18 made the insane jump to an r1 but I still have that r1 and haven't been down on it yet. got my second track day coming up in a few weeks too. she ain't babied. anyways this rambled on but ya love the content keep it up.
I miss this yammie noob so much 💔
Quick-shifter is almost Throttle by wire. There will be a time when: computer says no..
Have I used it? No. Am I willing to try ? Sure, at least to know how does it feel.
As for clutch less shifting.. Depends on the day and the RPM (means that somehow I'm late for work) and I just love it. Seems the whole bike agrees with me as well.
Long live the TRUE mechanics and skill
My notification screams papa yam alot these days, good to see that a a nice channel and one of my favourites is doing so good❤ keep rocking brother🤙🤘
Narration has a Spiderman vibe it's awesome
Can’t wait until I get a bike
I don't think the quick shifter ecu cuts the ignition, but instead the fuel.
I am pretty sure it cuts the fuel for a few miliseconds. If it were to cut the ignition, unburned gasses would enter the exhaust and cause a pretty loud backfire when the spark comes back on.
Try it by pressing the emergency stop kill switch while riding on an older motorcycle. Those turn off the ignition only. It's kind of fun to do in tunnels.
Not that I didn't understand what yoy said but the last video made everything clear... Don't sweat papa
Me🙋, Clutchless shifts and rev matching downshifts on a 160 😂😂, probably the loveliest thing about bike.
I have a 2015 GSXR 1000 I installed the quick and lawd it’s awesome
Yammie speaking french ... 😍😍😍 headass
Wait until he frech kiss you...
I see, so the same holds for clutchless shifting in a car. Thank you Papa Yam!
Clutchless shift almost every ride on my 636. Only do it in slow traffic like you mention or if I just want to by habit. I do have a 520 vortex conversion but just my way of having fun. Also find it great on the track IMO.
"Also find it great on track", lol can u ride? The reason u have the clutch is so you can hold the throttle open while shifting
Without a jungle downstairs? Zohan disapproves...
Yerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr what’s a plessure plate Yam?
just found out today my bike can clutchess shifting. after 5000 km .... greetz from austria
Got 1 on my r1 and I dig it
Been upshifting clutchless for a gazillion years. Keith himself told me it was ok on his bikes.
Lol papa yamy really likes his trimph boys
A sweet little yam in the sunlight! 😂 NO bike car guy i watch every damn upload!
Going clutchless is simple and easy, apply and hold a little pressure on the shifter lever, let off the throttle and click it shifts all easy like. There is no need to force it. The gears will shift when they want. Up shift every time without it becomes second nature.
This is the best advice for new riders. Never force it, do this and you'll learn how to do it properly just by feel.
Helped me a ton! Thanks boss
I used to shift cars without the clutch all the time but haven't really started with my bike yet.. except for one time when I forgot to pull the clutch lol
The search “help my pp is glued to my bellybutton” in the RUclips search box at the beginning 😂😂😂
yay i'm a fancy dude, clutcless up- and downshifts on the daily R1, but yeah imma get a translogic intellishift quickshifter (QS), too bad my bike isn't recent enough to install an autoblipper or i'd probably get that too. not all QS cut the ignition, there are different types but most of them do that. some, like the dynojet which operates in conjunction with a powercommander actually cut fuel injection so create the same unloading of power, the thing that translogic does so differently is that it doesn't cut ignition, but it adjusts the timing of it to reduce and restore power smoother. these QS are used in moto3 and moto2 and are according to translogic and a bunch of grand prix riders the absolute closest you can get to the seamless shifting a motogp bike has, because those have physically different gearboxes it's impossible to create such a smooth shift on a streetbike but it's dang close. i've also found that a lot of motorcycle manufacturers use translogic qs as their "from factory" equipment.
0:04 "help my pp is glued to my bellybutton"
Biscotti rider checking in, I use the clutch when putting around town and QS when riding hard. Sometimes fun to make some pop pops with a termi no baffle on decel with the QS downshift. No autoblipper on the Supersport S
Termi no baffle on decel?
@@tooomuchfuzz termignoni exhaust with baffle removed, makes beautiful crackling pop under deceleration.
I use clutch-less shifting on my dirtbike all the time and it feels just as smooth as using the clutch, I up and down shift clutch-less and really the only reason to use the clutch is to go super slow or if your a beginner and still learning, I will note that on my Honda shadow 759 street bike I use the clutch 100% of the time.
There's no mention of clutchless down shifting? Do you ever do that? I do occasionally. It's a fine art to master but is info that could be shared to the young squids that want to know. As always, good content. Love to watch your vids! Take care, ride safe 😁
@@talenarian you can rev match you just have to learn how to blip your throttle correctly
it's not blipping to rev match at all, because as Talen states, you cannot rev match a higher rev as that does put power to the system... or loads the system
You are blipping purely to release power from the trans.... or unloading the system, so that you can shift...
When down shifting you really don't want to blip too much throttle or it will be quite a snap....
I always used the clutch until I learnt how to drive a road ranger gear box. Seems much smother without the clutch on all my bikes going up or down. Never used a quick shift, looks cool.
You really had to mention Ari? Now I miss them again
Shubham Sangle he’s doing stuff for motor trend now buddie!!!
@@1993whitenoise but it's paid content and I'm broke af :(
He's back
I am riding for 3 and half years now. doing clutchless shifts for more than 2 years now. It's more fun on twistys or hilly areas where I have to keep changing gears quickly.. and few months back I was talking to my friends and found out it's not a common practice and I thought damn.. and then on you tube also read funny and dumb comments on videos of clutchless shifting and then only found out that its done by very few people.
2:57 "Pleasure plate"
I’ve been almost exclusively clutchless shifting since about 3 months into riding. I absolutely love it. Considering getting a quick shifter on my Street triple though.
Try that in a car
So, everyone is letting him get away with saying "pleasure plate"....
Your first video saved my ass when I started riding. Three weeks into riding my bike I got an air bubble in the clutch line while I was out of cell service and in a remote area. Not knowing what was wrong besides my clutch not working, I used the information from your video to slam those gears and get myself to the next town and a garage. Once it wasn't a matter of being stranded on the roadside, I practiced doing it all day. Now I do it whenever I gotta whoop up on that Harley bro in the next lane.