A Brief History of Homestuck

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  • Опубликовано: 12 апр 2021
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    Wide Eyes - Tape Machines
    Swagger Swagger - Lucas Pittman
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    Nite Glo - Molife
    Stay Another Day - Spectacles Wallet and Watch
    Stakes - Rospigg
    Walking in the Rain - Zoë Blade
    Let Me Tell You About Homestuck - Allegra Rosenberg
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    CORRECTION: A small section of this video referred to Daniel Kelly as a former contractor. This was incorrect; Kelly is a Kickstarter backer who was asked to be an investor.
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Комментарии • 14 тыс.

  • @SarahZ
    @SarahZ  3 года назад +2753

    Followup here: ruclips.net/video/gsM9bQvpt_c/видео.html

    • @safegourd
      @safegourd 3 года назад +36

      omg im early :o

    • @draxzor
      @draxzor 3 года назад +38

      This is wild

    • @Eve.v
      @Eve.v 3 года назад +63

      GIRL YES I JUST FINISHED IT I'M STILL REELING

    • @theresakulpa3004
      @theresakulpa3004 3 года назад +60

      Just finished, came back for a rewatch to bump that view number up even higher! Let's gooooo

    • @hellohello-ic4dh
      @hellohello-ic4dh 3 года назад +14

      OH BABYYYY sarahhh these people omg. youre my fave haha big love

  • @manuelafaria6703
    @manuelafaria6703 3 года назад +6468

    • I didn’t know what homestuck is about
    • I watch a 2 hour video about homestuck
    • I don’t know what homestuck is about

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 года назад +620

      • I didn't know what homestuck is about
      • I read a 7 year comic
      • I still don't know what homestuck is about

    • @blacksesamecandies
      @blacksesamecandies 3 года назад +70

      ^This, pretty much this.

    • @AdamTopCommenter
      @AdamTopCommenter 3 года назад +73

      Well, I'm glad it's dead because aesthetically it was an exploded baby diaper to the eyes.

    • @paulacifu
      @paulacifu 3 года назад +1

      Same

    • @endergamer.mp4
      @endergamer.mp4 3 года назад +7

      @@nukiradio I stopped on act 5 cuz i didnt like it at the start and now that I watched this, i might resume reading it

  • @astrobees
    @astrobees Год назад +6517

    My brother was OBSESSED with homestuck in his early teens, but he never let me read it because he thought it wasn’t appropriate for a little kid. I sneakily opened it up on the family computer anyways, read one page, and found it completely incomprehensible to my tiny mind. That night two tornadoes hit my town and destroyed part of my house. I like to think that somehow, some way, homestuck was responsible.

    • @PlumbG64
      @PlumbG64 Год назад +656

      John Egbert was trying to save you

    • @chiefofthesky
      @chiefofthesky Год назад +356

      one of the top five best stories i’ve seen written in a youtube comment

    • @shinyskunk
      @shinyskunk Год назад +137

      This is one of the best comments I've ever read.

    • @ArcstoneBionicle
      @ArcstoneBionicle Год назад +143

      I'm not sure where I thought this comment was going, but it sure wasn't there.

    • @ruler_of_everything
      @ruler_of_everything Год назад +176

      IT WAS JOHN
      HE DID THE WINDY THING

  • @approachingetterath9959
    @approachingetterath9959 Год назад +3045

    trying to understand homestuck when you've never been a part of it is probably what older generations feel like trying to understand memes and internet culture

    • @Someone-rl8ii
      @Someone-rl8ii Год назад +115

      Legit, I've been watching fanmade homestuck content out of context and the original media looks so complicated

    • @lakshaykochhar6799
      @lakshaykochhar6799 Год назад +50

      @@Someone-rl8ii At this point, maybe reading the near million words web-comic/flash animation, might be not so bad.

    • @jacobs7764
      @jacobs7764 11 месяцев назад +2

      It's terrifying

    • @SamanthaLaurier
      @SamanthaLaurier 8 месяцев назад +25

      I tried to explain one character to a friend and ended up giving a ramshackle, nonlinear summary of the entire comic. In response, I was sent that Always Sunny gif of the guy with the conspiracy board. And that's fair, I *felt* insane trying to explain ectobiology.

    • @abel6298
      @abel6298 7 месяцев назад +2

      Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ♥‎

  • @Meeks831
    @Meeks831 Год назад +2107

    The most Homestuck thing that ever happened in my life was my partner who cosplayed Dave Strider cheating on me with another Dave Strider. Like... COME ON

  • @OverlySarcasticProductions
    @OverlySarcasticProductions 3 года назад +31216

    Started this video thinking "finally I'll be able to understand what the hell Homestuck is" and instead I learn I'll NEVER be able to understand what the hell Homestuck is -R

  • @goofchunk
    @goofchunk 3 года назад +3124

    shoutout to the audible employee who sat through a feature length movie with of homestuck lore just to make sure its safe for sponsorship, godspeed.

    • @Tirgo69
      @Tirgo69 10 месяцев назад

      They're probably an asshole anyway they work for Amazon.

    • @Draeckon
      @Draeckon 9 месяцев назад +138

      There are worse jobs to have. I wouldn't mind being able to do something like this for a living.

    • @eicha41624
      @eicha41624 6 месяцев назад +102

      I mean, here we are listening to it for free like suckers, when we could be getting paid

  • @Account_Not_Applicable
    @Account_Not_Applicable 2 года назад +1275

    Sarah has talked about Sherlock, Supernatural, Homestuck...
    All we need is one on Doctor Who and one on Hetalia, and I get a Bingo on my Tumblr Bingo Card

    • @patrickrodriguez9124
      @patrickrodriguez9124 Год назад +79

      She just dropped a vid on the pro life episode of doctor who, does that count enough for your bingo?

    • @xxcallmeniaxx3272
      @xxcallmeniaxx3272 Год назад +47

      Ahhh Hetalia don't remind me

    • @1kaz1
      @1kaz1 Год назад +36

      @@xxcallmeniaxx3272 I have never seen Hetalia in any form other than fan content and I remember wanting to see it so it feels like it isn't a real thing hahaha

    • @coldslaws
      @coldslaws 10 месяцев назад +5

      begging please not hetalia

    • @jeremiahvires7864
      @jeremiahvires7864 9 месяцев назад +7

      Dear god i forgot about hetalia

  • @AgentofChaos315
    @AgentofChaos315 Год назад +988

    Minor correction: Megalovania wasn't created for Homestuck, Toby Fox first made the song to serve as the final boss music for an Earthbound ROM hack he made as a teenager

    • @StardustCorvid
      @StardustCorvid 10 месяцев назад +15

      I thought he made Megalo Strike Back for the ROM, then Megalovania spawned from *that*

    • @ArcanaIX
      @ArcanaIX 10 месяцев назад +63

      ⁠@@StardustCorvid
      Over way around, Megalovania was made for the ROM hack, Megalo Strikes Back was a sequel song made for I Miss You, an Earthbound tribute album, years later. Fittingly enough, that very same album also contains a version of Fallen Down, Toriel's theme.

    • @StardustCorvid
      @StardustCorvid 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@ArcanaIX Ahhh gotcha. Thanks

    • @lolmeowajarchive
      @lolmeowajarchive 6 месяцев назад +5

      Thankyoooou, its always bothered me so much that she says its from homestuck

    • @Evnyofdeath
      @Evnyofdeath 5 месяцев назад +6

      And he only made it because he wanted to use Megalomania from Live a Live and couldn't figure out how to import it

  • @rachelsyrup
    @rachelsyrup 3 года назад +19361

    My hobbies include watching 2+ hour dissertations on fandoms I was never even in.

    • @krh6239
      @krh6239 3 года назад +1818

      It's like watching a garbage fire on the other side of the street.

    • @millythecookiez
      @millythecookiez 3 года назад +131

      same!

    • @janeeyre1990
      @janeeyre1990 3 года назад +645

      I remember coming across Homestuck hate in my early days on the internet, but not understanding what any of it was about.
      This video answered an almost decade old question I'd forgotten I'd asked.

    • @chewychibi03
      @chewychibi03 3 года назад +8

      Okay? Lol

    • @Zipzapadam
      @Zipzapadam 3 года назад +268

      Yes! Literally dont know anything about Homestuck except the name but Sarah Z is a treasure and i will watch the whole thing

  • @celestialbr0nze
    @celestialbr0nze 3 года назад +3016

    if homestuck had come out more recently i swear there would be a page of vriska saying "gaslight, g8keep, girl8oss"

    • @scarecrow41
      @scarecrow41 3 года назад +189

      as someone who still sporadically consumes homestuck content, I have definitely seen her drawn saying that on multiple occasions, as well as fanart and cosplay tiktok of jane saying it

    • @cheekybananaboy3361
      @cheekybananaboy3361 3 года назад +33

      i understand the first 8 but the second one wtf. girleightoss

    • @ThAlEdison
      @ThAlEdison 3 года назад +134

      @@cheekybananaboy3361 8 looks like a capital b, so was part of Vriska's typing quirk

    • @onlyanuli
      @onlyanuli 3 года назад +5

      @@cheekybananaboy3361 boss

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo 3 года назад +129

      @@cheekybananaboy3361 Vriska's typing quirks in Homestuck were...
      1) repeat vowels 8 times ("oh maaaaaaaan"
      2) Replace B with "8"
      3) Replace anything that sounds like eight with "8"
      The vid doesn't really mention it, but every troll had a typing quirk and Vriska had arguably one of the easiest ones (most of the main trolls had easily readable quirks). It's weird that the quirks carried on when they would actually talk in-person but... eh whatever.

  • @brittballsVLOGS
    @brittballsVLOGS 6 месяцев назад +330

    Hotel housekeeper here!!! When I first started my job, there was an anime convention that was being held nearby and I personally cleaned a room with blueish gray body paint rubbed off all over the sheets, I saw them walking around the hotel earlier that day but was unfamiliar with their character so I shrugged it off and did my job. It wasn’t until RIGHT NOW that I realized they were doing a homestuck cosplay!! Thanks for this upload!

    • @angelina1071
      @angelina1071 3 месяца назад +20

      this is such a funny niche memory and realization to have

    • @MrsHyde1018
      @MrsHyde1018 2 месяца назад

      That paint probably clogged the shit out of their pores. I’m honestly shocked that you’d find any on the sheets unless they were true, unclean degenerates. 🤡😂

    • @projectasher1
      @projectasher1 28 дней назад +2

      This is so fucking funny I'm dying lmao

  • @GalacticPossum
    @GalacticPossum Год назад +751

    I'm a con vendor. I've never had a HS fan be outright rude--most were very nice--but as a group, they are by far the most inconsiderate. Damaging merch or people's clothing with their paint. Putting wet items in vendor tables. Leaving hairy gray messes in bathrooms. Taking up walkways. They'd station themselves in front of tables to talk, preventing anyone else from looking at merch. If asked to move, they'd sometimes try to migrate BEHIND VENDOR TABLES. None of it was malicious, just... Clueless. Sweet people for sure, most of them, but so many needed to pay attention to others.

    • @zamalamahama4894
      @zamalamahama4894 10 месяцев назад +55

      Ah that sounds like they’re more victims of group mentality than anything, slowly erasing away the perceived personal responsibility the individuals would usually give themselves. It would make sense that homestuck fans would get that reputation since there were so many of them, much easier to fall into a group mentality.

    • @SoulDevoured
      @SoulDevoured 9 месяцев назад +27

      Part of my job is cleaning bathrooms and homestuck cosplayers sound like pain.
      Compac purple bathroom cleaner is very good at cleaning sharpie btw.

    • @heavengriffin4866
      @heavengriffin4866 4 месяца назад +15

      Someone who is a devoted fan of a webcomic that is longer than the KJV Bible is probably not someone who gets out all that much.

    • @baintreachas
      @baintreachas 4 месяца назад +3

      what’s the most considerate fandom?

  • @ohworm1169
    @ohworm1169 3 года назад +5010

    i love the use of the word brief for this 2 hour long video

    • @ersatzandartifice
      @ersatzandartifice 3 года назад +177

      considering the comic's length? it fits.

    • @pantslesswrock
      @pantslesswrock 3 года назад +34

      I mean, it is accurate
      Also, your avvy is from Shark Tale and that is good

    • @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
      @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 3 года назад +53

      @@ersatzandartifice it is the former longest work of fiction in the English language

    • @Beccx_a_ryan
      @Beccx_a_ryan 3 года назад +2

      I was about to say!

    • @Granas3
      @Granas3 3 года назад +23

      NGL, thought this was only 40 minutes, then I saw your comment and realised that was the UPLOAD time

  • @meameam
    @meameam 3 года назад +10282

    I love how Sarah makes a Tumblr fandom sound like an ancient, puzzling and terrifying civilization, that has left us many artifacts and its dreadful reputation

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried 3 года назад +507

      It basically was in its prime

    • @KazKindred613
      @KazKindred613 3 года назад +305

      I mean... you’re not wrong lmao

    • @gargamellenoir8460
      @gargamellenoir8460 3 года назад +62

      She's the Ken Burns of the internet.

    • @AoiiHana
      @AoiiHana 3 года назад +175

      as someone who was on tumblr up until seven months after the nsfw ban,
      *she’s right.*

    • @AlabasterTen
      @AlabasterTen 3 года назад +62

      That could literally backfire so badly if Tumblr becomes popular again

  • @gamsougher3574
    @gamsougher3574 Год назад +503

    the fact that you received personal correspondence from hussie free of charge after this video in the context of the kickstarter tiers is unbelievably funny

  • @emilybarclay8831
    @emilybarclay8831 Год назад +1633

    When I was around 12 in 2012, nearly a decade before I realised I was sex repulsed, I made a tumblr account and almost immediately saw a gif of pottery that turned into porn. That single post horrified me so much that I never went on tumblr again, and i think that one pottery porn gif saved me from this because Homestuck is 100% the sort of thing I would have been into as a young teen. So I want to thank that person who terrified 12 year old me with porn for saving me from the objectively darkest timeline I could have gone down

    • @Loreboar0
      @Loreboar0 Год назад +137

      As an asexual who was terrified by stories of Tumblr growing up, I find this much too relatable

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Год назад +92

      @@Loreboar0 it’s the same reason I stay off twitter, I’m just not interested in having to dodge pron like I’m Neo

    • @boohooter23
      @boohooter23 Год назад +68

      @@emilybarclay8831 There was a porn ban in 2018 which largely contributed to why twitter became the new Tumblr in terms of the stereotypical user. Everyone left Tumblr for Twitter!

    • @Live_Laugh_Loathe
      @Live_Laugh_Loathe Год назад +28

      As someone who is aroace this is the most relatable thing I've read

    • @Niqua10023
      @Niqua10023 Год назад +2

      I had one way older than you. But, I didn't have that problem too much. Maybe I knew where to go and not too. Idk? 😐 I don't use it anymore

  • @firstkeepitreel
    @firstkeepitreel 3 года назад +13543

    As someone who *was not* in the homestuck fandom, seeing a 2+ hour video titled "A brief history of homestuck" explains enough by itself

    • @TheSilversepiroth
      @TheSilversepiroth 3 года назад +224

      To make a long story short, ignore any surrounding info (especially where fans are concerned) and make your own opinions

    • @katu8478
      @katu8478 3 года назад +92

      as someone in the fandom, i agree.

    • @FoolOfTheStars
      @FoolOfTheStars 3 года назад +31

      @@katu8478 you are chill

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 3 года назад +53

      I just assumed they were the current trendy anime fandom at the time. And that most of the people in troll cosplay were just the same old cosplayers who hopped onto whatever was the new bandwagon and didn't particularly like the IP itself. My friend referred to this group as the Narutards.

    • @sandia2225
      @sandia2225 3 года назад +12

      Heard about Homestuck today. So its just some webcomic?

  • @maia_gaia
    @maia_gaia 3 года назад +3492

    In all my years on Tumblr, I avoided learning anything about Homestuck beyond the name itself. I didn't even know what type of media it was. I wore that fact like a badge of honor.... Until today. Today, I will watch this 2 hour long video and learn about Homestuck because Sarah Z cannot be denied.

    • @daveprice5911
      @daveprice5911 3 года назад +104

      the fandom is a mess but it's actually worth reading

    • @almudenasouto3485
      @almudenasouto3485 3 года назад +12

      same

    • @rexpants
      @rexpants 3 года назад +39

      I got into it just last year, best decision of my life

    • @KellyJoule
      @KellyJoule 3 года назад +43

      Im in the same boat. Never would have imagined it destroyed its own reputation from a problematic af video game kickstarter

    • @Weebslayer13
      @Weebslayer13 3 года назад +83

      Lmao this is me to a T, I've seen some pictures and cosplays that were forced upon my eyes in my years of tumblr but I refused learn the distinction between homestuck and that sans game, but alas, today is the day I learn lol

  • @Katie-gr6qq
    @Katie-gr6qq 2 года назад +761

    I went to my first con in 2016, and knew as soon as the trolls showed up, to avoid them at all costs. I just went to a con a few days ago, and the three Homestuck cosplayers I saw were sitting in a corner, talking quietly. It felt surreal to see something change so much.

    • @amagimofumofu6549
      @amagimofumofu6549 Год назад +83

      I remember going to a con in 2018 and seeing a trio of trolls getting ignored constantly when asking to take cosplay pics to other cosplayers . Furries seem to have taken their place in terms of invasive force in anime/video game conventions

    • @cawingcrows2072
      @cawingcrows2072 Год назад +20

      Homestucks talking quietly?
      Impossible, didn't happen /j

    • @cyberpunk-2O77
      @cyberpunk-2O77 Год назад +2

      Why so discriminatory.

    • @cryforhelp7270
      @cryforhelp7270 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@amagimofumofu6549That's really sad :(( they wanted to have fun at the con and got denied...

    • @kimberlyscheyhing9114
      @kimberlyscheyhing9114 9 месяцев назад +15

      i go to the same convention every year (minus the year it didnt happen for c*vid lol) and i can attest, there will always be at least one group of homestuck cosplayers but they always mind their business. back in my day we chugged off of a strangers bottle of faygo and sang “you cant fight the homestuck” so loud you could hear it across the convention center
      its crazy how much things have changed but i certainly dont think its changed for the worse

  • @ozziepants4963
    @ozziepants4963 Год назад +399

    Holy shit, I made an entire focaccia bread listening to this.

    • @Sing_A_Rebel_Song
      @Sing_A_Rebel_Song 5 месяцев назад +4

      Was it good?

    • @gekigami1791
      @gekigami1791 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@Sing_A_Rebel_Songuh, duh, its focaccia!

    • @Ppppftt
      @Ppppftt 3 месяца назад +3

      I'm dropping this random useless info on you: focaccia is considered pizza and not bread in Italy

  • @redactedredacted6656
    @redactedredacted6656 3 года назад +4197

    there are 2 types of people in the world; people that think a 2 hour video cant be described as brief and people that are familiar enough with Homestuck to know 2 hours is as brief as we're going to get

    • @dull_demon4717
      @dull_demon4717 3 года назад +100

      I've read homestuck and only now realize how far behind i am in reading because 2 hours still doesn't seem brief

    • @MissPoplarLeaf
      @MissPoplarLeaf 3 года назад +123

      Yeah I think it took me reading a couple of hours almost every day for about a month, to get through the entire thing. And I'm a fast reader. AND that's not even touching on the fandom shit, just the comic itself.

    • @fadhil5749
      @fadhil5749 3 года назад +33

      @@MissPoplarLeaf same and I can't stop reading, only stopped to eat or sleep then read homestuck, repeat.

    • @CJCroen1393
      @CJCroen1393 3 года назад +61

      3rd category: People who think 2 hours is _too_ brief for Homestuck.

    • @cometgravity
      @cometgravity 3 года назад +76

      when she mentioned on twitter that the video was 2 hours and 12 minutes and once i knew for sure it'd be about homestuck my first reaction was "oh that's not nearly long enough"

  • @queeftamer4205
    @queeftamer4205 2 года назад +4233

    I was bullied in middleschool for NOT being into homestuck. I live in the worst timeline

    • @kernium
      @kernium 2 года назад +144

      Now you get bullied for being into MLP, you indeed live in the worst timeline.
      Edit: Never make jokes, people cannot stand it.

    • @queeftamer4205
      @queeftamer4205 2 года назад +241

      @@kernium damn is it 2012? We’re having brony discourse?

    • @queeftamer4205
      @queeftamer4205 2 года назад

      @@kernium and now you get bullied for your cringe ass RUclips channel

    • @kernium
      @kernium 2 года назад +43

      @@queeftamer4205 No, I was just making a joke. But apparently you can't take those well.

    • @kernium
      @kernium 2 года назад +9

      @A Catalan Liam Maybe, but we can all agree that that person's anger management is piss poor.

  • @GreatBooker
    @GreatBooker 9 месяцев назад +141

    This is one of my comfort videos, I’ve watched at least fifty times. And every single time, Sarah saying “Dante Basco, who played Zuko from the Zutara ship” fucking annihilates me.

  • @alejoparedes2388
    @alejoparedes2388 Год назад +313

    Nobody's talking about Big Joel's perfect impersonation of Andrew Hussie and that's a shame because it's perfect.

    • @ishuboshi
      @ishuboshi 3 месяца назад

      omg when/where

    • @ishuboshi
      @ishuboshi 3 месяца назад +1

      oh my b I'm like 20 min in lmaoo

  • @Chxbearie
    @Chxbearie 3 года назад +2921

    Man, that was the culture huh? Being the awkward kid alone at a convention sucks until you find the dark corner of the con center where the Homestuck kids your age are, then you're treated like family until you leave. I hope that kindness and openness never dies and finds itself in another fandom prone to awkward kids :,)

    • @grace-yp3sv
      @grace-yp3sv 3 года назад +149

      boy do i have news for you about the dream smp once quarantine is over

    • @elokin300
      @elokin300 3 года назад +50

      @@grace-yp3sv honestly both fandoms are pretty similar

    • @SolveForX
      @SolveForX 3 года назад +7

      You always do such a fantastic job. Probably the only channel I could legit sit and watch for the length of a film. Haha

    • @ilexdiapason
      @ilexdiapason 3 года назад +43

      @@grace-yp3sv i am SO excited to turn up to insomnia in a red and white shirt and get Mobbed

    • @DeathbyButterflies1
      @DeathbyButterflies1 3 года назад +9

      @@grace-yp3sv came here to say this lmao

  • @lizablee
    @lizablee 3 года назад +3919

    If you take a shot every time Sarah says 'suffice it to say', you will time travel to 2012 and wake up in a bath that is a mix of sharpies and 70% alcohol.

    • @adrianmalmstrom2771
      @adrianmalmstrom2771 3 года назад +80

      Everyone time I hear that story I start dying of laughter, you just made it like 10x better-

    • @phia486
      @phia486 3 года назад +8

      Lmfao

    • @gazeboist4535
      @gazeboist4535 3 года назад +38

      It do suffice tho

    • @namingisdifficult408
      @namingisdifficult408 3 года назад +39

      @@gazeboist4535 it do be sufficing

    • @2partepoxy
      @2partepoxy 3 года назад +16

      I went back to early 2012 once. Then I took an arrow in the knee.

  • @billveusay9423
    @billveusay9423 7 месяцев назад +117

    "The two epilogues are 190 398 words long"
    Just checked for comparison, the Fellowship of the Ring is 187 790 long

  • @mana7047
    @mana7047 2 года назад +675

    30:14
    Vriska, in D&D terms, is a murderhobo, in every way. She is the stereotypical edgy rogue who says they're chaotic neutral when, in fact, they're chaotic evil because they just killed some random villager's family just because they looked at them funny. However, I still like Vriska because her past actually explains a lot as to why she's a massive bitch.

    • @wolfgangervin2582
      @wolfgangervin2582 Год назад +57

      As someone who has not read Homestuck, the discourse around Vriska seems to be the webcomic equivalent of the whole 'Griffith did nothing wrong' discourse/meme.

    • @yurifairy2969
      @yurifairy2969 Год назад +48

      @@wolfgangervin2582
      It's not quite the same situation. Vriska was essentially a child soldier, she didn't know any better. Griffith knowingly hurt his loved ones for power.

    • @wolfgangervin2582
      @wolfgangervin2582 Год назад +4

      @@yurifairy2969 Yeah, saying he's just the worst is a massive understatement.

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 Год назад +9

      ​@@wolfgangervin2582 or Homura discourse in the PMMM fandom

    • @LunarLocust
      @LunarLocust Год назад

      ​@@yurifairy2969 the people who say Griffith did nothing wrong have an 'ends justify the means' mentality.
      Sure, he fed the band of the hawk to demons, and graped casca, and destroyed the island and genocided everyone living there. But the world is temporarily under his authoritarian control!

  • @red4081
    @red4081 3 года назад +1565

    "vriska is a good person and a bad character" sounds like "nobody killed jfk, his head just did that"

    • @slug3157
      @slug3157 3 года назад +101

      I would say that she’s a good character and a bad person

    • @slug3157
      @slug3157 3 года назад +42

      commented this before getting to that point in the video oops

    • @snowflaker3608
      @snowflaker3608 3 года назад +138

      I feel like “good person but bad character” could be used for mary sues, as they could be the perfect person with no flaws. Good person, but not a good character. Not a great way to describe Vriska.

    • @Michijoy
      @Michijoy 3 года назад +4

      @@snowflaker3608 Very true!

    • @sethg6157
      @sethg6157 3 года назад +20

      I love the idea that it just did that lol Like it sounds like something a dystopian government would say when a popular revolutionary figure suddenly died lol "No we did not shoot him in the head with a sniper rifle from a near by roof top. His head just did that. We are not accepting any further questions on this matter!" lol

  • @FileCode1459
    @FileCode1459 3 года назад +3312

    toby fox working on homestuck before releasing undertale and therefore bringing homestuck fans to play undertale really explains A LOT actually

    • @Ephraim225
      @Ephraim225 3 года назад +175

      That man is a tactical mastermind. Now if only writing were his other strong suit.

    • @Drekromancer
      @Drekromancer 3 года назад +34

      @@Ephraim225 ouch

    • @lordbander8767
      @lordbander8767 3 года назад +28

      @@Ephraim225 wait why? Is he a bad writer?

    • @juice3287
      @juice3287 3 года назад +295

      @@lordbander8767 idk i thought undertale had a good story

    • @Drekromancer
      @Drekromancer 3 года назад +23

      @@juice3287 same

  • @TeamOuid
    @TeamOuid Год назад +311

    I worked for WeLoveFine which had the Homestuck merch license. Met Andrew, met his stalker, got lore checked too many times to count, and got paid to read Homestuck and come up with merch/find talented fan artists. Great to see this kind of video about something that was such a HUGE part of my career being a professional geek.

    • @chiefofthesky
      @chiefofthesky Год назад +4

      that’s so cool! not the constant lore checking 😂 but the rest is. and cool that you found this video, i hope those you shared it with liked it too

    • @anecro
      @anecro 5 месяцев назад +2

      If I was able to create good art back then I'd definitely work hard to get the attention of someone like you. Homestuck was such a core building block to who I am, I just wasn't old enough to properly engage with the fandom and experienced art community then. Finally at a point where I can feel confident about my abilities and it seems possible to me now to reach artists like Xamag and Ikumaru, top tier Homestuck fan artists that shaped the way I draw. Anyway, thank you for your service, it's so cool seeing echoes of my childhood still going around wondering about Homestuck.

  • @vecna2101
    @vecna2101 2 года назад +458

    "Twitter is a hellsite made to cater to everyone's worst sensibilities"
    Z, Sarah, 2021

    • @CJCroen1393
      @CJCroen1393 Год назад +5

      Sarah speaks the truth.

    • @vecna2101
      @vecna2101 Год назад +10

      @@CJCroen1393 And now the end times's come.

    • @dachel683
      @dachel683 Год назад +8

      It's only gotten worse

    • @Ornithopter470
      @Ornithopter470 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@dachel683This is incorrect, it hasn't gotten worse, it's just you're more aware of it now. Tumblr has always been a terrible website.

    • @perpetuallyconfused09
      @perpetuallyconfused09 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Ornithopter470 why are you talking about Tumblr?

  • @MxPokirby
    @MxPokirby 3 года назад +3878

    People who don't know Homestuck: "A *_brief_* history? It's over 2 hours!"
    People who know Homestuck: "A *_brief_* history? And it's only 2 hours?!"

    • @keevr.3902
      @keevr.3902 3 года назад +100

      Honestly, I was expecting her to delve into major fan stuff like Guidestuck and all that gjfjfjfkd

    • @artsy2502
      @artsy2502 3 года назад +27

      @@keevr.3902 and what's that now?

    • @ollieollieoctopus4035
      @ollieollieoctopus4035 3 года назад +71

      For me, as someone who knows like half of it: “a brief history? It’s two hours!!! Wait actually that makes sense” *click*

    • @sjhsoccer
      @sjhsoccer 3 года назад +73

      I joined the fandom during the Omega pause, so basically as it was ending, so I was so happy to finally have answers that no one would give me till now.

    • @keevr.3902
      @keevr.3902 3 года назад +46

      @@artsy2502 Guidestuck? It's a fancomic for Homestuck that imagines a SBURB session with humanized versions of Becquerel, Lil Cal, the Harlequin doll, and Jaspers. It along with Heinoustuck were hosted on MS Paint Fan Adventures (shortened to MSPFA) and were two really big ones on the site at the height of the time. Now, Guidestuck has a sort of successor a la Homestuck^2 (called Guidestuck^2), and I *think* Heinoustuck has one too? Both run by fans of the two comics wanting to continue where they were left off since both of them went inactive for a long time.

  • @mikevillegas9416
    @mikevillegas9416 3 года назад +3738

    I believe Sarah has been on every single fandom ever to have existed

    • @amapola9202
      @amapola9202 3 года назад +496

      That’s what being on Tumblr in 2011-2014 felt like

    • @MissPoplarLeaf
      @MissPoplarLeaf 3 года назад +284

      You've heard of Superwholock, get ready for Superwholockstucktaleceler

    • @meyes5671
      @meyes5671 3 года назад +156

      waiting for the fnaf video

    • @meepmorpmupt
      @meepmorpmupt 3 года назад +156

      She wasn't in the Hetalia fandom (and as someone who was in it I envy her)

    • @coolfinel
      @coolfinel 3 года назад +85

      I doubt she was in the Thomas the Tank Engine fandom (yes, that’s a thing).

  • @ursadabear2810
    @ursadabear2810 8 месяцев назад +56

    The description of Yiffy elicited an involuntary bodily response. I cringe yet feel a primal, subconscious horror that makes my spine crawl.
    As if I were looking into the eyes of Cthulhu Himself… and He dabbed.

  • @christineherrmann205
    @christineherrmann205 9 месяцев назад +154

    Little did Sarah know, comparing Hussie to Musk was prophetic.

    • @christineherrmann205
      @christineherrmann205 7 месяцев назад +17

      @@abel6298 used to be a lector. Try again. 🙄

    • @die_sel
      @die_sel 7 месяцев назад +4

      Wait what happened-

    • @jamesrutley1009
      @jamesrutley1009 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@abel6298Why KJV specifically? What’s wrong with NIV or ESV?

    • @Froggediah
      @Froggediah 6 месяцев назад

      @@jamesrutley1009KJV is outdated, read NIV or ESV

    • @Froggediah
      @Froggediah 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@christineherrmann205that’s fine, ignore that guy.

  • @bradleyemery
    @bradleyemery 3 года назад +2955

    Q: "Sarah, when is the Homestuck video?"
    Sarah: "I'm not making one."
    Also Sarah:

    • @dnd402
      @dnd402 3 года назад +188

      proof she is making two, get ready for the Candy version of the video

    • @aegisScale
      @aegisScale 3 года назад +24

      @@dnd402 nothing like introducing bullshit half-canonicity to top off videos covering Homestuck!

    • @uilsoum875
      @uilsoum875 3 года назад +90

      "I was actually using a really advanced techinque called LYING"- Sarah

    • @MissPoplarLeaf
      @MissPoplarLeaf 3 года назад +21

      @@uilsoum875 y'know at first I was surprised to see a Technoblade quote here, but then I was like wait... I'm on the Weird Internet History Lady Channel. What am I saying.

    • @ilexdiapason
      @ilexdiapason 3 года назад +9

      @@MissPoplarLeaf i thought i was just too obsessed for reading the quote in a techno voice, but no, it is a techno quote, good

  • @chrisdray5325
    @chrisdray5325 3 года назад +2416

    "If I had a nickel for every time Tumblr fans speculated that a bad ending wasn't the real ending, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice"
    - Sarah, probably

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 3 года назад +197

      Three nickels
      Happened with Supernatural too

    • @katara2021
      @katara2021 3 года назад +74

      Attack on Titan fandom

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 3 года назад +71

      @@katara2021 and The Promised Neverland too

    • @FullMoon2503
      @FullMoon2503 3 года назад +53

      Voltron too

    • @kyarikatari1225
      @kyarikatari1225 3 года назад +76

      Aight, we got 6 nickels now..... we're rich ✨

  • @garfocusalternate
    @garfocusalternate 9 месяцев назад +76

    The weird thing about Vriska for me is my first girlfriend when I was 13 was a massive Vriska roleplayer and used her text quirk all the time, at a time when I knew zero about Homestuck. So when I finally got around to reading it years later Vriska just reminded me of that relationship and made me nostalgic.
    My second girlfriend was also really into cosplaying Jade too so basically when reading the comic I have pretty strong romantic associations with two Homestuck characters. This is what it was like being a teen in the 2010s.

  • @EnsignGeneric
    @EnsignGeneric 2 года назад +177

    I wouldn't say "favorite," but my strongest memory of the Homestuck fandom is of using a custom instant messenger program themed after the one the characters use. I ended up connecting with a person who I was certain was my then-girlfriend and having a couple hours of vaguely flirtatious conversations before finding out the next day that she hadn't been online that whole night. So, that's a thing I get to remember forever.

    • @yurifairy2969
      @yurifairy2969 Год назад +19

      wow that's fucking creepy

    • @cyberpunk-2O77
      @cyberpunk-2O77 Год назад +7

      Pesterchum, you mean?

    • @EnsignGeneric
      @EnsignGeneric Год назад +23

      ​@@cyberpunk-2O77That's the one. Though creepy encounters aside, I gotta hand it to whoever made it, there are much less complicated acts of fandom devotion than writing a whole instant messaging program. What a weird time that was.

    • @matthewsteele99
      @matthewsteele99 3 месяца назад

      Id use MSParp

  • @jamesmooney3472
    @jamesmooney3472 3 года назад +960

    Do I know a single thing about homestuck? No
    Am I willing to watch a two hour video dissecting it? Absolutely

    • @rendy1222
      @rendy1222 3 года назад +37

      Ah fellow cultured man
      Or you just need something long and easy to digest because you afraid to be alone with your own thought

    • @hannahalexia
      @hannahalexia 3 года назад +56

      When Sarah was like "you've heard of this before" about the trolls I was like 'no I haven't' and then she said "you've seen this before" and I was still like 'no I haven't' then she was like "you've definitely seen this before" and finally I was like well I guess if Sarah says so, I must have seen it before.

    • @rachelmarie1530
      @rachelmarie1530 3 года назад +1

      Me too

    • @ScabiousGarde
      @ScabiousGarde 3 года назад +16

      My only interaction with Homestuck was talking with some people covered in grey hanging out at the mall, very odd thing to run into. Glad I now have context for that like a decade later

    • @deltatin2758
      @deltatin2758 3 года назад +3

      This comment is me

  • @THATGuy5654
    @THATGuy5654 2 года назад +240

    I love it when Big Joel does voice work for other videos. Anytime he reads something like what what we got here, you can just hear his laughter bubbling underneath. In his soul, he's a jolly little chaos goblin, just happy to have gotten a seat in the splash zone.

  • @RougeHimbo
    @RougeHimbo Год назад +534

    It always kinda came across as like a fluid combination of furries, lgbtq,and pure undiagnosed autism.

    • @RougeHimbo
      @RougeHimbo Год назад +118

      Like where all the theater kids with adhd let loose.

    • @painfulVeracity
      @painfulVeracity 9 месяцев назад +18

      That’s pretty damn accurate, actually.

    • @munchiehan5237
      @munchiehan5237 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@RougeHimbosugimoto PFP?

    • @sucasica3845
      @sucasica3845 7 месяцев назад

      Lmao

    • @mmaantj
      @mmaantj 3 месяца назад +1

      Like everything on tumblr

  • @FredrikKnudsen
    @FredrikKnudsen 3 года назад +11118

    Thank you for making this so that I didn't have to.

  • @TheVellure
    @TheVellure 3 года назад +444

    When Sarah Z said "the voice actor of Zuko from the ZUTARA SHIP" instead of "Avatar: The Last Airbender" I had a brief out-of-body experience

    • @ehhh888
      @ehhh888 3 года назад +8

      Wait... I didn't even noticed, it seemed so normal to me.

    • @soupforfree
      @soupforfree 3 года назад +13

      it hit me like a gunshot jesus chr-

    • @lucilleballs2291
      @lucilleballs2291 3 года назад +7

      God I hate Zutara

    • @kittyelgato4246
      @kittyelgato4246 3 года назад +1

      @@lucilleballs2291 me too, but I was dying in shrieks when I heard Sarah and actually went back to laugh even more heartedly

  • @miajohnson4025
    @miajohnson4025 11 месяцев назад +66

    i never read homestuck, but my birthday is april 13th, and i have strong memories of being incredibly upset in middle school because my friends cared more about celebrating homestuck than my birthday

    • @Trickster-Roxy
      @Trickster-Roxy 4 месяца назад +3

      that actually sucks

    • @TheSilentPr0tag0nist
      @TheSilentPr0tag0nist Месяц назад +2

      This does suck...but it's still kinda funny

    • @lKlynI
      @lKlynI 22 дня назад

      Let’s switch birthdays because I share my birthday with both Jojo Siwa and Nikocado Avocado 🗿

  • @Surrealgo
    @Surrealgo 2 года назад +78

    The Vriska quarantine stuff reminds me of my days on Amino. When I was in the Tangled: The Series fandom, everyone was obsessed with Varian, to the point that the amino had to make a rule called “no Varian weekends” or whatever. There was a featuring thing where basically the people in charge could pick posts to go at the top of everyone’s feed, and on weekends they would refuse to pick anything that was about Varian.

  • @Melphisto_
    @Melphisto_ 3 года назад +850

    "I don't watch movies, they're too long for me to emotionally invest myself into them."
    *Sarah Z, Jenny Nicholson, or Folding Ideas making hours-long content about media & early 2010s fandom shit*
    > Me: Invest emotionally.

    • @fightingfitz214
      @fightingfitz214 3 года назад +17

      never mind Jenny Nicholson watching every Land Before Time movie

    • @garbledsand-which2321
      @garbledsand-which2321 3 года назад +5

      This is me utterly. Its just more thoughtful and in many ways more engaging.

    • @zyaicob
      @zyaicob 3 года назад +1

      Add Lindsay and Knowing Better to this list

    • @sta._rina
      @sta._rina 3 года назад

      Theyre more personal versions of doccumentaries

  • @TalkingVidya
    @TalkingVidya 3 года назад +5623

    Calling Zuko "The guy from the Zutara Ship" it's an absolute power move

    • @QJ89
      @QJ89 3 года назад +90

      Oh no!
      I don't wanna touch that one!

    • @FaintBastard
      @FaintBastard 3 года назад +19

      BSHAHAHAHA

    • @spill.urguts
      @spill.urguts 3 года назад +35

      It destroyed me

    • @ThemedNumber02
      @ThemedNumber02 3 года назад +216

      Thank goodness she didn’t mention that weird spin-off fanfic Avatar: The Last Airbender

    • @stevencorniel5262
      @stevencorniel5262 3 года назад +10

      Danny? The hell are u doing here?🤣🤣🤣

  • @EarlyOwOwl
    @EarlyOwOwl 10 месяцев назад +41

    There was a time I only knew homestuck as "that one comic Toby Fox worked on a little". Now the more I learn about it the scarier it becomes.

  • @Cherryxarts
    @Cherryxarts Год назад +133

    As someone whos in some way known of homestuck for a while but never engaged in the fandom/ read a single page of it, the fact that a Toblerone has the power to change 10 years of story is something that I find impressive just as I find it mind boggling

    • @sjahvsnavsb3365
      @sjahvsnavsb3365 Год назад

      LOL how did it?

    • @Cherryxarts
      @Cherryxarts Год назад +30

      @@sjahvsnavsb3365 it didn't that much since the person who did end up finding the Toblerone only asked for the protagonist to be made trans. But Hussy literally said anything could be requested, someone could have requested the entire plot changing and it would have

    • @sjahvsnavsb3365
      @sjahvsnavsb3365 Год назад +3

      @@Cherryxarts ohh that must be where the june egbert headcanon came from

    • @yurifairy2969
      @yurifairy2969 6 месяцев назад +2

      Just goes to show you how little Hussie gave a shit about homestuck at that point

  • @rattyeely
    @rattyeely 3 года назад +591

    So you're telling me the end of Homestuck was bad, but fans were hoping the epilogue would fix that, but then the epilogue was bad, but then fans were hoping Homestuck 2 would fix that, but then Homestuck 2 was bad.

    • @deborahamos5401
      @deborahamos5401 3 года назад +17

      yEs

    • @redaether9671
      @redaether9671 3 года назад +79

      Not just bad, it was always worse somehow

    • @krawlzdraws6645
      @krawlzdraws6645 3 года назад +61

      Each iteration got progressively worse, it's a wonder how they managed to even get this far

    • @Link-ho8yq
      @Link-ho8yq 3 года назад +24

      While it has blatant issues, I'd still consider HS^2 an improvement over the Epilogues... The Epilogues were pretty much End of Evangelion.

    • @PassTheMarmalade1957
      @PassTheMarmalade1957 3 года назад +29

      *Secret Good Fourth Sherlock Episode*

  • @DPadGamer
    @DPadGamer 3 года назад +6069

    I'm about an hour and twenty minutes in and im still wondering... did they ever get unstuck?

  • @arthurdurham
    @arthurdurham Год назад +44

    Ooooh that explains it. Something about Undertale I never understood was its initial backer support or developed its obsessive fandom started from seemingly nowhere.
    More mainstream game media tends to depict Toby Fox as some random guy who came up with a unique game idea and it exploded into a phenomenon due to luck and "determination". His work on Homestuck usually relgated to a small tidbit.
    And I think this has largely to do with our general cultural obsession to perpetuate the myth of the self made success story coming from nothing with no help mixed with those outlets' lack of knowledge of what HS is (tbf I've watched a few videos and still barely do myself).
    But it makes so much more sense that he was not only a decently significant part of an established media property, but literally had a close personal relationship with the owner of it.
    And that there was this ravenous fanbase with already years of built up experience and desire to create fan work and alternate universes just chomping at the bit for anything even related to HS.
    Not to undermine Toby or Undertale, I absolutely adore the game, it's one of my favorites. But it just explains a lot to me that he had way more to work with than just luck and a good idea.
    He had a proven style to work from, community support, and probably even a push from Hussie or WhatPumpkin in general.
    And even more interesting it being essentially an alternate universe version of HS with more broad mainstream appeal and a successful Kickstarter with little to no drama; except it happened adjacent to HS in real life.

    • @christopherschneider2968
      @christopherschneider2968 5 месяцев назад +2

      Huh! Its true. Most Articles i could find write about his ROM Hacks with only Kotaku having made these connections ('The Undertale Drama' and 'what homestuck was')

  • @plasmafruit210
    @plasmafruit210 11 месяцев назад +43

    I will never forget the marriage proposal that I witnessed at my first homestuck meetup. It was gamtav.

    • @yurifairy2969
      @yurifairy2969 6 месяцев назад +6

      i hope theyre happy

    • @gekigami1791
      @gekigami1791 4 месяца назад +3

      They are absolutely divorced now 😁

    • @wolfkitty42
      @wolfkitty42 5 дней назад

      Which one had the ring?

  • @deej_dobalina
    @deej_dobalina 3 года назад +3197

    i already felt like homestuck was a "you had to have been there" kind of thing, knowing that its literally impossible to even read the damn thing the same way ever again is just so in line with homestucks branding

    • @planetsliveinsidethemoon1600
      @planetsliveinsidethemoon1600 3 года назад +193

      I wasn’t even that into Homestuck (I was... ten to twelve? I was a Homestuck fan, not a Homestuck Fan with a capital F, if that makes sense) and I remember my extremely stoic, VERY into Homestuck friend called me crying about the Game Over update (where everyone died) and... man, you really DID have to be there.

    • @austinwalker240
      @austinwalker240 3 года назад +70

      @@planetsliveinsidethemoon1600 I was in, like my 20’s when the game over flash happened and had the same interaction with a friend that was REALLY into it. I had know idea what was happening but tried my best to, like comfort her about it. I eventually did read Homestuck a little later on and she got the same call from me basically. 😂

    • @jared20089
      @jared20089 2 года назад +99

      It's not really LITERALLY impossible, thankfully the unoffical MSPA reader is super good and has everything archived, able to play HS as-is. The games and Flashes and everything - it's great.
      It's definitely missing the whole "reading along with the fandom" thing though, sadly.

    • @strangecitizen
      @strangecitizen 2 года назад +32

      Read the "Problem Sleuth" instead. It's not as long as Homestuck and it really delivers that fun surreal plot feel. Minus the trolls.

    • @PrederNationteam74
      @PrederNationteam74 2 года назад +17

      *Hmm, sounds like Red Vs Blue, where ya had to be there. (Spoiler) I was there when season 13 finished and church died. So that broke me and nothing as ever the same. It's upsetting that they fired Joel VA FOR CABOOSE.*

  • @Blobzy64
    @Blobzy64 3 года назад +763

    "dril was doxxed by the credits of a homestuck game" was not something i expected to learn today

    • @nightshadetq2453
      @nightshadetq2453 3 года назад +62

      no one has talked enough abt the whiplash of dril's involvement in this video

    • @lronjack
      @lronjack 3 года назад +10

      We all kinda collectively decided it didn't happen because it's more fun that way

    • @didiercollard
      @didiercollard 3 года назад +20

      I am so curious as to how people knew. Was he credited as "dril" AND his real name?

    • @AviTheEnby
      @AviTheEnby 3 года назад +5

      @@didiercollard I have the same question

  • @roseghouled_
    @roseghouled_ Год назад +108

    I got into homestuck cause my older sister told me to ‘avoid the grey cosplayers’ when I went to a local anime con in 2012, cause ‘they’re aggressive’ and my friends and I created a punch buggy game where we’d punch each other every time we saw a homestuck. Then after the con I immediately went and read it LOL the cosplayers were so good and I was curious haha

  • @falleithani5411
    @falleithani5411 Год назад +63

    Watching this just made me deeply grateful that my method of choice for consuming Homestuck was to visit the site once a year and binge the whole archive every time, and to never interact with the fandom, nor bother with any release schedules or previews.
    I barely noticed the gigapause, was completely oblivious to the controversies and debates among the fandom, and I backed Hiveswap on Kickstarter at one of the lower tiers without ever once regretting it.
    For the record, I was a bit disappointed by Collide, but I liked the ending.

    • @zmaj12321
      @zmaj12321 9 месяцев назад +11

      Reading Homestuck years after it ended over one summer definitely felt like the right decision.

    • @tuesdaysellers1545
      @tuesdaysellers1545 5 месяцев назад +3

      same. liked the comic but the fandom seemed rabid and unappealing to me

    • @christopherschneider2968
      @christopherschneider2968 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@tuesdaysellers1545 Right? Like i was there i read the previous comic of the creator (the detective one) and within months it had an cultish following that was a bit scary...

    • @Homodemon
      @Homodemon 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think that's the objectively best way to interact with any media nowadays...
      Fuck media as a community activity, fuck that shit, I just wanna catch up with this thing I've been hearing about in peace and decide for myself if I like it or not or if I should continue.
      Happened to me back in 2016 when I decided to start reading MHA, I NEVER touched the fanbase, I just binged like 5 chapters everyday until I began following it weekly and then I stopped when it got boring and that's it. The only bad experience I had with that thing was discovering I wasn't enjoying the series all that much.

  • @rulesofrose
    @rulesofrose 3 года назад +4986

    this hits different knowing that andrew hussie begrudgingly watched this video after weeks of putting it off despite someone they're associated with literally threatening legal action over it

    • @FCHenchy
      @FCHenchy 3 года назад +142

      Buck wild.

    • @paweave9562
      @paweave9562 3 года назад +33

      wait what. Hussie did something wrong?

    • @FCHenchy
      @FCHenchy 3 года назад +192

      @@paweave9562 There's a follow up video now. I think there's a pinned comment for it.

    • @paweave9562
      @paweave9562 3 года назад +26

      @@FCHenchy Idk, my english is not that good to watch this shot without a headache ;3; Just explain itt. Did hussie do something bad or other people involved in homestuck not him?

    • @fallenwarlock2418
      @fallenwarlock2418 3 года назад +505

      @@paweave9562 My English is not that good either but I’ll try to explain. They (Andrew uses all pronouns) and the studio behind Hiveswap sent legal threats to Sarah because of her video, “asking” her to delete it and apologize for spreading misinformation. Turns out, there isn’t misinformation, at least they never said what information is wrong, they just swear to god that the bad things about the development of Hiveswap (people not being credited, being fired without warning and the general delay of the game) are fake because the source of these informations are “bad people”. Sarah spent weeks talking to Andrew trying to understand what those false informations are, but they never answered, they just kept running back and forth about how some people that used to work with them are bad and how these people convinced their co-workers that Andrew and the whole development were messy and bad. Also, they accidentally confirmed a lot of the bad things that happened during the development of the game, like not crediting a person just because they believed that this person was talking bad things about the company after being fired without warning. A “funny thing” about this whole situation is that Andrew took weeks to watch this video that they claimed that has misinformation, they were talking to Sarah FOR WEEKS about THE VIDEO without having watched THE VIDEO

  • @lyiarlyiar
    @lyiarlyiar 3 года назад +2113

    hearing Sarah Z discuss Homestuck in excrutiating depth for two hours makes me feel seen, not in a comforting way, but like im butt naked and embarassed.

    • @maiarustad5062
      @maiarustad5062 3 года назад +18

      Im the 413th like and I wanted to say that

    • @generallytrash
      @generallytrash 3 года назад +18

      so glad I'm not the only one experiencing. I have been laughing for 2 hours as a means of coping with the absurd pain every word in this video fills me with

    • @AgentSteffi
      @AgentSteffi 3 года назад +13

      Well, your profile pic is Shinji, so I guess you are used to it, lol

    • @Jasmin-yh9ou
      @Jasmin-yh9ou 3 года назад

      funny hospital dude

    • @coleserfass3101
      @coleserfass3101 3 года назад +9

      hey, at least you’re not doused in vodka and sharpie

  • @rotomfan63
    @rotomfan63 2 года назад +188

    protip: if you want to make a series belong to the fandom, PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN OR CREATIVE COMMONS NOT ONLY LET SOME FANS MAKE THE NEW CANNON

    • @placeholderdoe
      @placeholderdoe Год назад +7

      EXACTLY!

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 6 месяцев назад +5

      I think it's pretty obvious that Hussie didn't want Homestuck to belong to the fans. Like at all. The fact he's made comments about disliking most fan canon, suggests that he won't be letting go of overall control over the canon anytime soon.

    • @anecro
      @anecro 5 месяцев назад

      @@medes5597 Homestuck's out of his hands now anyway. He's retired. He moved on to new projects after Homestuck, like psycholonials, bringing back his recognizable artstyle and Homestuck references but that's it. Viz Media owns Homestuck now and they aren't planning on using the IP any time soon.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@anecro while viz media owns homestuck, I'll be shocked if hussie doesn't have a creators deal allowing him creative input and veto on anything they do. Just based on the fact Hussie has been involved to some degree in every Viz Media homestuck project suggests that.
      Also homestuck 2 still exists and was being updated again last I bothered to check.

  • @jonbomb1480
    @jonbomb1480 2 года назад +63

    The HomeStuck 2 Company: *HUSSIE WAS ABLE TO CREATE THESE COMIC ANIMATIONS WHILE CRUNCHING, WITHOUT ANY MONEY GIFTED TO HIM; USING A BUNCH OF RANDOM MSPAINT DRAWING TOOLS!*
    The HomeStuck 2 Creators: _I'm not Hussie sir._

  • @tothestd4222
    @tothestd4222 3 года назад +742

    the way she so boldly says “zuko from the zutara ship” makes me lose it

    • @arthurtaylor725
      @arthurtaylor725 3 года назад +18

      I'm dying that hit me in the face

    • @kathleencarroll5645
      @kathleencarroll5645 3 года назад +15

      100% my favorite part of the video!

    • @theheadlesshat5887
      @theheadlesshat5887 3 года назад +16

      i had to pause the video and come look for a comment talking about it bc holy shit fjkksjhfkdsj (is she wrong tho)

    • @VRBOAT
      @VRBOAT 3 года назад +1

      Timestamp?

    • @acehealer4212
      @acehealer4212 3 года назад

      What a move.

  • @shimmerence
    @shimmerence 3 года назад +736

    "i hate redemption arcs that start and end with the character doing one grand gesture and then dying" Literally what they did with Kylo Ren I'm still mad

    • @heatherysnicket
      @heatherysnicket 3 года назад +18

      lmao when she said that I literally thought "i could make my own YT channel/podcast ranting about Star Wars" because I still regularly discuss with my friends how TROS ruined the entire sequel trilogy

    • @randomwerewolf1099
      @randomwerewolf1099 3 года назад +24

      Well, he was only copying the original terrible redemption arc of Darth Vader (there, I said it, Vader has a terrible redemption arc, come at me)

    • @claramujo
      @claramujo 3 года назад +14

      @@randomwerewolf1099 why would you say something so controversial and yet so brave

    • @septiquaddoubleyou4019
      @septiquaddoubleyou4019 3 года назад +5

      @@claramujo I mean... they aint wrong tho.

    • @AlexAzureOtaku
      @AlexAzureOtaku 3 года назад +5

      I have never been as grateful for fan created media as I was the minute after I exited the theatre after that fiasco.

  • @LakeGael
    @LakeGael 2 года назад +96

    Honestly I'm still just mad that the one cosplay I got the most following for (10k+ on tumblr) was Dave fucking Strider. Literally just a t-shirt, some red cons, aviators, and an ok sense of humor. It started because I was making cosplay gifs in my room during a thunder storm and this clap of thunder scared the SH!T out of me and I had been recording a gif that turned into a gif of me attempting to put my aviator shades on and being scared shitless by nature. I posted it because it was just amusing?? Then it blew up and lead to an ask blog, con panels, massive friend circles, etc. I'm now over 30, have worsening mental health, and never leave my apartment. I kind of try to forget and pretend my homestuck days never happened, but I can't ignore the flashbacks I got every 2 minutes while watching this video.

    • @anecro
      @anecro 5 месяцев назад +7

      Dude, you probably made tons of people smile with that gif. Hell, I've probably seen it. Just know that you matter and have the potential to rule everyone around you. I'm just 22 and feel nostalgic about the Homestuck days in 2016, I went down a mental health spiral right after it ended and for a lot of years after that before I finally learned to be social and not scared of intimidated by other people / my literal self and the problems I thought I'd bring with me to new relationships. You can improve in seconds if you want to, never too late to break out of a bad cycle.

  • @DioShiver
    @DioShiver 11 месяцев назад +41

    I am halfway through the video and this development hell is so fun to me. Like, dude, you can't blame the team of developers for doing nothing and placing it all on them, because, you know, you can't just give them some money, say goodbye and then come back after a year asking where your game is. This is YOUR game, your responsibility, you can't just hand out money to some people without actually working with them and checking on them, even if the team is fucking around it's your job as a client to check on them and tell them not to fuck around. Your job to schedule and to harass them into working, because it is you in the first place who needs this game to be done. Like, if they weren't making any progress, how couldn't you notice for months? If you had bad expirience, maybe stop giving them money? I am working in the game industry and this is SO common for a client to fuck around and not to give you any information and then blame it on the team, this is so frustrating. Even if Odd Gentlemen screwed him over (which I honestly doubt) I can't see why it isn't Hussy's own stupidity, lack of involvement and carelessness, 'cos come on, it's your responsibility to get shit done. Especially considering how poorly Hussy treated the previous stage of development where he made no updates whatsoever for months, I'm siding with Odd Gentlemen on this one. I never new what homestuck is but this shit made me MAD so I'm ranting about it in the comment section of two year old video, look what you've made me do, Hussie!

    • @OctEddie
      @OctEddie 6 месяцев назад +4

      The way Hussy’s own self-ran studio basically imploded leans evidence that this is all due to Hussy’s own actions.

  • @lovelydaze413
    @lovelydaze413 3 года назад +3244

    having been a person who stayed home a lot since i was a child, growing up reading homestuck i thought faygo was a fake soda that the webseries made up for years up until the summer before i went to high school in 2015 and when i tell you i lost my shit when i went to family dollar and saw shelves full of faygo im not even joking. i felt so dumb when i talked to my friend about how they made faygo from homestuck real and looked like the biggest fucking idiot.

    • @evantheboss9202
      @evantheboss9202 3 года назад +163

      Bro I was in the exact same place as you when I was younger, when I found out Faygo was real, I fucking lost it, I had actually thought that they made the drink specifically from Homestuck

    • @eileengaleen2845
      @eileengaleen2845 3 года назад +51

      clearly you are not from Detroit

    • @elbruces
      @elbruces 3 года назад +50

      I knew about Faygo because apparently Insane Clown Posse fans, aka "Juggalos" are really into it. Hence her reference at 40:57

    • @lovelydaze413
      @lovelydaze413 3 года назад +4

      @@eileengaleen2845 im from newark nj lol

    • @eileengaleen2845
      @eileengaleen2845 3 года назад +20

      @@elbruces what with the faygo and the facepaint there are some similarities between juggalos and homestucks lolol

  • @derogatory69
    @derogatory69 3 года назад +882

    desperately slow scanning all the AX cosplay group shots you include this video, whispering “please sarah I’m 34, I have a family now, they cant know what I did”

    • @tananario
      @tananario 3 года назад +53

      I felt that.

    • @starry-mantle
      @starry-mantle 3 года назад +104

      me, who was in the hetalia fandom: "there are worse things."

    • @tmbcyberman
      @tmbcyberman 3 года назад +29

      I woulda felt that, except I married a fellow Homestuck and we both own it (waiting for the day our kids are old enough to enjoy it)

    • @derogatory69
      @derogatory69 3 года назад +64

      @@tmbcyberman my wife and i used to roleplay vriska and kanaya on livejournal, some shame goes too deep to own

    • @tmbcyberman
      @tmbcyberman 3 года назад +12

      @@derogatory69 We cosplayed Gamzee and Jade and embraced everything. But no hards from me.

  • @misterskeleton1397
    @misterskeleton1397 2 года назад +256

    I often wonder how my life would've changed if I read Homestuck when my high school pal tried to get me into it...

    • @armageddongirl612
      @armageddongirl612 2 года назад +40

      probably for the worst

    • @shanelbryant5638
      @shanelbryant5638 2 года назад +39

      As someone who dated a homestuck fan in high school- for the worse

    • @cyberpunk-2O77
      @cyberpunk-2O77 Год назад +9

      For the better. But people will ironically and edgily say for the worse because that's the kind of fandom it was.

    • @joebot86
      @joebot86 7 месяцев назад +1

      I was into homestuck in highschool, it changed very little.

    • @gonzoss3998
      @gonzoss3998 4 месяца назад +1

      Yup, probably for the worst. I got obsessed over a girl who was into it, so I started reading it. Some bad decisions later and I was writing a fan session fanfic. I used to see those memories as nostalgic but now I don't ever want to remember my time as a Homestuck fan.

  • @heyyou2720
    @heyyou2720 16 дней назад +5

    I lived in the mspa forums in their heyday around 2012. I learned a lot from the trans kids in particular who were figuring out their genders through homestuck. I also loved the work of a few fan artists and musicians in the community. It was a time and place where it felt safe to be weird and a little edgy and dramatic. I don't actually remember a lot about the comic itself. I guess the real homestuck was the friends we made along the way.

  • @alvodisco
    @alvodisco 3 года назад +872

    my exposure to homestuck was kind of like having a neighbor who played very loud music that I couldnt really make out but was very aware of

    • @Maskami
      @Maskami 3 года назад +37

      fuck this is so legit it hurts

    • @oliviamontemayer7089
      @oliviamontemayer7089 3 года назад +11

      That's really accurate too...

    • @honeyhannijung
      @honeyhannijung 3 года назад +9

      Huh. Yes, this is also my experience with Homestuck.

    • @youaremydarlin3620
      @youaremydarlin3620 3 года назад +4

      how did you put into words what i’ve been feeling for nine years

  • @RyelynCaster
    @RyelynCaster 3 года назад +1988

    Sarah Z: A Brief History of Homestuck
    Also Sarah Z: *two hour long video*

    • @yebkamin
      @yebkamin 3 года назад +135

      she did say brief

    • @yunnuc
      @yunnuc 3 года назад +6

      I didn’t even notice until now

    • @IsaacIsaacIsaacson
      @IsaacIsaacIsaacson 3 года назад +110

      for homestuck, thats brief

    • @user-tj7sh8wx1x
      @user-tj7sh8wx1x 3 года назад +51

      I noticed that and thought, "That sounds right, for a brief Homestuck summary".

    • @sopranophantomista
      @sopranophantomista 3 года назад +2

      "Brief"

  • @batteredthem
    @batteredthem Год назад +57

    This video answers a lot of questions I didn't know I had, particularly about the Undertale fandom. Knowing that Toby Fox was someone in the Homestuck sphere and that a crap load of Homestuck fans gravitated to Undertale when it was released makes the entire Undertale fandom make so much more sense, and honestly it's suuuuper easy to see. In no other fandom do you have as many people invested in making OCs as Homestuck and Undertale. There are so many Sanses you can't blink without crashing into one.

  • @blueisasomedancer
    @blueisasomedancer 2 года назад +58

    I love seeing a deep dive and deconstruction of a fandom I was WILDLY into as a teenager. When I was 16 a friend and I went to a 'Homestuck Prom' where I went as "humanstuck!Fancy!Vriska....aka me in a black wig and blue dress I had on hand. It was just a community center with a sensory friendly coloring room and a rec hall dance area but we had an absolute blast and I will never forget being a teenager screaming "Thnks fr th Mmrs" at the top of my lungs with a hundred other people.

  • @Cattyclysm
    @Cattyclysm 2 года назад +1982

    "imagine you're a devoted Homestuck fan" please don't make me do that

    • @The_Obsessed
      @The_Obsessed 2 года назад +11

      Agreed.

    • @crazydragy4233
      @crazydragy4233 2 года назад +5

      Most of us don't need to xd

    • @greatsquare6028
      @greatsquare6028 2 года назад +39

      Some of us live the nightmare that you dread

    • @Cattyclysm
      @Cattyclysm 2 года назад +48

      @@greatsquare6028 and I mourn you every day

    • @Man-ej6uv
      @Man-ej6uv 2 года назад +3

      i’ve suffered enough

  • @rainymeadows3447
    @rainymeadows3447 3 года назад +2578

    "A lot of former Homestuck fans moved into the Danganronpa fandom"
    ...from what I've seen of the Danganronpa fandom, I hate how much sense that makes.

    • @c.r.4985
      @c.r.4985 3 года назад +69

      Oh god youre right

    • @KingOfSharksYuriy
      @KingOfSharksYuriy 3 года назад +146

      The Steven Universe fandom as well.
      I will never ever go anywhere near those fandoms.

    • @l1ghtd3m0n3
      @l1ghtd3m0n3 3 года назад +200

      Obviously the Undertale fandom also drew Homestuck people. It’s basically the immediate successor, as was said.
      Now though there hasn’t been a project with the same spark for quite some time as the internet moves to be more corporation-centered.

    • @figs-oliomedley
      @figs-oliomedley 3 года назад +12

      oh god oh fuck I didn't know this was a common thing
      I feel called out ಠ_ಠ

    • @monbub
      @monbub 3 года назад +31

      I used to be in the danganronpa fandom. I'm so glad I left before it became cursed and cringy af

  • @DarkestMirrored
    @DarkestMirrored Год назад +21

    Problem Sleuth deserves so much more attention, honestly. I stumbled across it fairly early on and excitedly followed it to the conclusion. It was a big deal when Homestuck surpassed it in length.

  • @icarus7198
    @icarus7198 Год назад +19

    Well it’s 413, time for my annual rewatch

  • @Imps603
    @Imps603 3 года назад +1370

    this is the equivalent of falling asleep and suddenly waking up in 3045 in the middle of a war in a battlefield and no one absolutely speaks a language you understand

    • @NobodyHere951
      @NobodyHere951 3 года назад +34

      Rip Van Winkle has entered the chat

    • @christiangottsacker6932
      @christiangottsacker6932 3 года назад +18

      "I am a foreigner in a foreign land."
      -Shrek 1852

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 года назад +9

      Starter, that sounds like a prompt to a VERY INTERESTING roguelike!
      Or a VERY DIFFICULT one...
      XD

  • @Kunori
    @Kunori 2 года назад +245

    To me, the issues with the introduction of gender stuff in Homestuck can be summed up with the fact that I came away from the epilogues feeling they had been written by a very subtle transphobe who was pretending to be pro-trans to slip in anti-trans ideas.

    • @auraguard0212
      @auraguard0212 Год назад +20

      You mean a Tumblrite trying to get with the times?

    • @cyberpunk-2O77
      @cyberpunk-2O77 Год назад +31

      Shame you had that happen. It helped me realize I was nonbinary, and gender was sort of ephemeral and silly.

    • @aspwned
      @aspwned 9 месяцев назад

      i've never read homestuck or played any of the games, but hearing about how a character has... amab dog genitalia... it really doesn't feel very pro-trans, despite what intentions they may have had. it feels more like those people who say that teens are identifying as cats and schools are putting litter trays in the bathrooms or similar. it's also just. really weird?? borderline zoophile content imo
      although the stuff vriska seemed fine to me and i quite like the subtext that was added in her dialogue. it feels natural (as natural as homestuck can be) and i think a lot of trans people can relate to "falsifying" an online identity when they're questioning/confused.

    • @aspwned
      @aspwned 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@cyberpunk-2O77 i'm glad it helped you :D

  • @Yakutie
    @Yakutie 10 месяцев назад +206

    The Vriska hate is so unjustified…. God forbid women have hobbies

    • @elizabethgem2102
      @elizabethgem2102 9 месяцев назад +5

      She also did bad things 💀

    • @Yakutie
      @Yakutie 9 месяцев назад +78

      @@elizabethgem2102 ok and? Those are her hobbies 🙄

    • @enviisyk
      @enviisyk 9 месяцев назад +70

      REAL i support women's rights as well as women's wrongs 😁

    • @nerdporkspass1m1st78
      @nerdporkspass1m1st78 6 месяцев назад

      SHE KILLED PEOPLE?????

    • @perpetuallyconfused09
      @perpetuallyconfused09 6 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah guys like everyone makes mistakes

  • @myceliiumz
    @myceliiumz 3 года назад +1666

    homestuck was incredibly odd for me, since i read it on my own in late 2017 - early 2018 with ZERO involvement or knowledge of the fandom at all: essentially just raw unfiltered homestuck with no outside influences. i didn't know any discourse or any drama, just a cool webcomic that i read and then finished. and so when i tried to look at the state of the fandom once i was done reading i was.......... incredibly put off. it was like going to a hotel, having a nice time, then looking out the window and realizing all the other guests have been setting beach towels on fire and fighting each other for the last week without you noticing

    • @baltofarlander2618
      @baltofarlander2618 3 года назад +27

      I had similar experience

    • @hache4329
      @hache4329 2 года назад +16

      Same experience for me down to the time

    • @popilikitt5173
      @popilikitt5173 2 года назад +54

      Same here. Being a recent Homestuck fan is a... Peculiar experience

    • @strangecitizen
      @strangecitizen 2 года назад +36

      Yeah. There's a lot of things that basically require you to ignore their fandoms in order to be enjoyable.
      I have read Homestuck I think in 2015 until the hiatus break. Never engaged with the community and I don't regret it.
      Also I think that the Problem Sleuth is better, at least I enjoyed it more personally.

    • @melody120021
      @melody120021 2 года назад +10

      Same. I read it around 2016, I think, because a friend was into it and I finished it without looking at the fandom to avoid being spoiled only to look at the fandom afterwards and just going... :0 !!!?!?!!

  • @Uptomyknees
    @Uptomyknees 3 года назад +4499

    ok so I've actively avoided knowing anything about homestuck for like nine years and i watched all of this and was not able to glean even a hint of what actually happens in the story. but then you got to the part where you mentioned something called "cascade" as a highlight, so i paused this video and went and watched that and holy shit. i'm high as fuck and that was like a dorky anime acid trip just blowing my fucking mind. the music is incredible. i feel satisfied that, having watched this video and now watched cascade while i'm high, i've basically experienced homestuck to the amount i'm comfortable with.

    • @trivynium
      @trivynium 3 года назад +294

      Homestuck is where even if you read it you still can't understand shit

    • @Miksho7
      @Miksho7 3 года назад +214

      This was an extremely unexpected interaction to witness as I finished this feature-length video about a fandom I never really connected with while sipping my morning tea. The internet is a hell of a thing.

    • @kylesmith564
      @kylesmith564 3 года назад +34

      @@trivynium not true, it just covers the lead up to the big events in a largely scattered way that is tied up beautifully in those moments like cascade.

    • @BromanderShow
      @BromanderShow 3 года назад +8

      yo watch Wake too real talk

    • @oddbirdMusic
      @oddbirdMusic 3 года назад +157

      Honestly, not a bad way to experience homestuck. Imagine if the first 800 pages of Harry Potter were him buying school supplies, followed by just the dramatic climax of whichever three books you liked best (whether or not they have anything to do with harry potter, or indeed fiction), then a twelve minute fully animated music video of an anime apocalypse and-or battle with god, and then it somehow starts smoothly segueing into someone's phd thesis on what is either deconstructive art criticism or philosophical metacognition, where they specifically are trying to prevent you from figuring out which of those two things it is. Also something about chess, faygo, and pumpkins. Watching just the music video covers most of the highlights.

  • @PaleVoyager
    @PaleVoyager Год назад +28

    Great essay! one small correction, though. Toby Fox's song Megalovania wasn't originally used in Homestuck. It WAS used in Homestuck, but it was originally used in Toby Fox's Earthbound Halloween Rom Hack.

  • @reneablackheart9563
    @reneablackheart9563 Год назад +52

    I got into this comic in 2018 and made it exponentially harder for me to make friends lmao.
    Im kidding it actually made middle school more fun cause I got my friends to experience this acid trip with me after all the craziness of the fandom had died down already, so we got to enjoy it in its purest form without things like the sharpie bath happening all the time

  • @elleblythe8355
    @elleblythe8355 3 года назад +898

    Sarah, describing the finale of homestuck
    Me, noticing we’re only halfway through: 👁👄👁

    • @Prinny_421
      @Prinny_421 3 года назад +2

      It's homestuck... I found it typical lol

  • @Smieska_13
    @Smieska_13 3 года назад +625

    I was in the Hetalia fandom during 2010 at the height of homestuck and boy let me tell you the fandom wars between the two. Then after a few years, both fandoms were considered cringey af and ended up uniting in their shared existence. It's a beautiful thing to witness.

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried 3 года назад +35

      I was in the Hetalia fandom during that time. What a time to be on Tumblr during all that

    • @taursula
      @taursula 3 года назад +51

      do you remember the personifications of homestuck and hetalia (and maybe superwholock? idk ik there was another one)? because i sure do and i hate it

    • @janavalencik9317
      @janavalencik9317 3 года назад +11

      I remember when Russia/Gamzee and Romano/Karkat were a thing-

    • @merlumili
      @merlumili 3 года назад +19

      @@taursula oh god, fandomstuck. I'm legit having war flashbacks.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 3 года назад +4

      @@janavalencik9317 Oh my god

  • @cowcannon8883
    @cowcannon8883 Год назад +32

    During peak honestuck, I'd say the creative part of the fandom is like touhou. Its everywhere once you know what to look for. And the fandoms mix a bit with toby fox and others being touhou fans themselves.
    I found homestuck through toby from undertale, probably a common thing. Then because im also a weeb youtube recommended me touhou music and i fell down that rabbit hole after i did with homestuck. Its funnier that i found touhou music in my playlist way before i even know what homestuck was let alone touhou.

  • @GoldenPandoria
    @GoldenPandoria Год назад +17

    The most important part of creating a story is knowing when to finish it. We never needed a Homestuck 2. I honestly think everything went downhill from there. But I refuse to let it tarnish the sweet memories I made back then thanks to it.

  • @LemonMoon
    @LemonMoon 3 года назад +1886

    I think it’s very important for videos like this and Jenny Nicholson’s Bronycon video to exist so that future people’s will know what the fandom experience was like for dead fandoms.

    • @madmanvarietyshow9605
      @madmanvarietyshow9605 3 года назад +95

      Seconding this. As a former Brony the future must know about our cringe fandoms.

    • @neelyiguess3376
      @neelyiguess3376 3 года назад +28

      Very true. I was always super confused (and still am a bit) on why people liked it and how the fandom got to the extreme level it was

    • @sta._rina
      @sta._rina 3 года назад +26

      I loved that video as a former pegasister and it actually was the 1st time i learned about the fandoms origins

    • @zosiak3818
      @zosiak3818 3 года назад +20

      So I was a Pegasister/Brony in the mid-2010s (got bored with it and left around 2017, maybe). It hurts so much to see it referred to as a "dead" fandom. Ouch.

    • @Yesnomu
      @Yesnomu 3 года назад +59

      "It was kinda cringy, but what fun thing isn't?" Words to live by.

  • @spectre9340
    @spectre9340 3 года назад +625

    We had Johnlock, Destiel, the Once-ler and now THIS? ✋😭
    Ma'am, I don't think you are aware just how much of this I've repressed for years only for you to forcibly pull them out of the dark recesses of my mind.

    • @friendbreakfast
      @friendbreakfast 3 года назад +19

      John(Egbert)lock

    • @FunnyFany
      @FunnyFany 3 года назад +17

      It's therapy. Come to terms with your dark history and forgive past you for the cringe. It's over now. You survived.

    • @paolapereira1104
      @paolapereira1104 3 года назад +7

      Oh honey I'm not surprised. She is a tumblr god

    • @somechray3718
      @somechray3718 3 года назад +8

      Wait until she covers Hetalia

    • @Cassandra659
      @Cassandra659 3 года назад +1

      @@somechray3718 oh god no 😂 i recently donated my old hetalia t-shirts and had war flashbacks when i pulled them from the depths of my closet

  • @starsgambit412
    @starsgambit412 Год назад +24

    All jokes aside I was surprised that there was no mention of the troll songs by PhemieC when discussing the early fanworks, I still listen to them to this day

    • @nicluvsyou237
      @nicluvsyou237 8 месяцев назад +3

      me too omg their music is amazing especially for being a college student with little music experience

  • @Andrewbert109
    @Andrewbert109 10 месяцев назад +24

    It's so weird watching this cause i had no idea of this thing's existence before this video but she's 100% correct I've seen the Vriska character with the eye patch all over the place before and I'm sure I've seen more of them too just never knew what they were from so it's bananas to find out it was this big

  • @Izzy-uz1cf
    @Izzy-uz1cf 3 года назад +600

    "vriska did nothing wrong" walked so "light yagami did nothing wrong" could run

  • @zander...k.7968
    @zander...k.7968 3 года назад +589

    I unironically live for 2+ hour videos that are titled as "brief histories." Bonus points if they're about something I never had an interest in before

    • @khatunamezvrishvili6211
      @khatunamezvrishvili6211 3 года назад +8

      SAME

    • @endedge3069
      @endedge3069 3 года назад +17

      Same I never read homestuck but I watched this whole thing

    • @emilynorthrip2528
      @emilynorthrip2528 3 года назад +1

      @@endedge3069 same i just watch anything sarah makes lol

    • @sharkofjoy
      @sharkofjoy 3 года назад

      oh I didn't look at the timestamp on this and I'm only half an hour in.

    • @aarontheperson6867
      @aarontheperson6867 3 года назад

      @@sharkofjoy you still watching? lol cuz i am

  • @mayhemMaryam
    @mayhemMaryam Год назад +19

    i love this because there's still so many people into homestuck and it just will not die, ive been into homestuck for so much of my life and im going to a homestuck meetup this weekend to a convention, and i hosted a small homestuck meetup tcc 2023 !! i literally will not let homestuck die as much as we all want it too, its been my special interest since i first got into it, i think homestuck might be forever eternal especially because of the reqieum cafe collab and all of hiveswap :D

    • @schwiftyjerry666
      @schwiftyjerry666 Год назад +1

      i actually only just got into it a couple of weeks ago so not only is the fandom still alive but it's managing to get new fans too! I feel a bit sad that I didn't get to participate in the fandom back when it was huge so it's nice to know that it still has a bit of a community.

    • @isthatawormwildbowreferenc4562
      @isthatawormwildbowreferenc4562 10 месяцев назад +4

      havung homestuck as a spinterest or hyperfixation hurts because whenever i bring it up everybody else is like ‘ew’😢😢

  • @pyzovy
    @pyzovy 2 года назад +38

    I wasn’t on social media when all of this was happening, and I understand how weird and toxic and confusing this was but,, I just imagine a bunch of teenagers having the time of their life being so involved in a fandom. Like, idk I wasn’t even really around but I just imagine people getting so excited and having so many emotions over this and it makes me all fuzzy inside lol

  • @boudicathebrave
    @boudicathebrave 3 года назад +557

    Justin McElroy saying out of nowhere "Vriska did nothing wrong" activated me like a sleeper agent. Sucker punched back a decade.

    • @mayborneflower
      @mayborneflower 3 года назад +13

      Were you out buying groceries after getting punched?

    • @slithra227
      @slithra227 3 года назад +8

      as taako too :(

    • @cheer90099
      @cheer90099 3 года назад +17

      @@slithra227 the best part is that, as far as I can tell from this video, taako would absolutely be the little shit to say that

    • @Solanuma
      @Solanuma 3 года назад +12

      today i found out that i follow one of the people who bought the jumbotron to make him say that
      small world

    • @missybarbour6885
      @missybarbour6885 3 года назад +1

      What's crazy is that episode of MBMBAM is from 2018!