Just got the 124060 No-date Sub. Absolute perfection! They slimmed the lugs and widened the bracelet by 1mm and now it is much better proportioned and a more graceful transition to the bracelet.
I was skeptical too about the larger clasp, but once on the wrist I knew why they went with the larger bracelet and clasp. It's all about the balance of the watch and how it feels on the wrist. It's perfect. Rolex most of had many mockups of different configurations with case and bracelet sizes. They landed on this for a reason, Rolex doesn't just put something out with out tons of thought, research and testing.
As someone who has a smaller wrist, I find the 41 (really just 40.5) way easier to wear compared to the ugly boxy maxi case. The bracelet adjustability is also better than on the old 5 digit reference (I always wore my old 16613 on a strap because the clasp was never balanced when I removed all the links I needed)
I prefer the new 41.. two reasons, the wider bracelet and the better movement... otherwise the older was fine. I have the 126619LB and it's also got some serious heft.. my 126715CHNR was my heavy weight, but it's since been displaced by this beast.
I do the most damage to my watches when I worry about not scratching them. Now I am just like, "don't think about it". Great video. Keep up the good work.
Funny we call the Submariner 'common' and yet it took me 2 years to acquire the 116610LN from my AD with prior purchase history. These are frustratingly difficult to get at retail.
The the previous generation, just before this current version was almost perfect .All Rolex had to do was trim the lugs and the watch would be a master piece . The current 41mm has a slightly wider dial and the wider bracket and chunky clasp makes it not so comfortable . It’s a great watch if you don’t already own a sub but if you do you might want to keep what you got .
I had the 126610LN and swapped it out for the Explorer 124270. I already didn’t care much for the heft on my 7” wrist but the longer clasp was a dealbreaker for me. Thanks for the content, great video.
I have both versions, both are beautiful, but if I have to keep one only I will keep the 40 mm. It looks a hair smaller but for me this tiny bit is very important and believe me this 1 mm makes a lot of deal for the watch mad people like me. Nice video 👍🏻
Interesting topic. I had the 114060, then updated it with the 124060. I have thinner wrists and prefer a loose fit. But with the newer wider bracelet it looks weird so I had to wear snug. The new AR coating it great. But I missed the Maxi dial, especially on the No date the dial gets to naked. So long story short, I sold it and bought back the older one. The 11 gen. is the winner for me.
I have the new sub and it fit amazing right out of the box. The AD said, you’ve got that Rolex wrist.” I was skeptical of the wider bracelet and clasp, but in the 3 weeks I’ve had it, it’s the best fitting and feeling sports watch in my collection alongside the 39mm Explorer, a Seamaster 30mc, and Tudor BB GMt. I think the new sub definitely hit the mark on this.
got the 114060 no date from the AD just a couple weeks before they discontinued the super case models for the new sub. at first i was thinking i got screwed over, but the differences are negligible, very slight.
Great point Ridah. They are all great watches even though they each have something different about them.. Personally I don’t mind the new clasp because I always felt the super case needed a wider bracelet to balance the bigger lugs
I have a little smaller wrist so I do see a difference in the 2 sizes. I like the 40 better than the 41. I know there is not much difference but I feel as though the 41 is flatter on my wrist like I smooshed my 40 almost, lol I know silly.
I own 126610LN and 116613LN and I adore both gens! To be honest personally I don’t care or listen to “watch purist” get what you like and what looks best to you aesthetically, there is no “right answer” also the two tones if you like gold sell under retail box papers, and the 114060 is pretty much at pre pandemic levels. Love that for most models it’s a BUYERS MARKET Again!
Just picked up the new date sub. It’s beautiful and better than I expected. It’s a keeper fire sure. I did have to wait 1 year for it, but it was totally worth it.
I agree, it’s nothing more than nostalgia. It always perplexes me when people say they prefer the previous version of the sub. The 124060 is better in every conceivable way.
Top quality video. I have the 124060 41mm. And I really appreciate how it fits and the quality with which it was made. I’m not qualified to compare with the previous model but as you said besides the bracelet and clasp not much to compare
Actually - GMT II wears DIFFERENT from a Sub, despite of having same case size of 40mm)) It's more comfortable and slightly smaller on a wrist as it has more straight case back profile where Submariner case back pops out more - may be just a 1 mm, but you definitely feel it (I feel the difference at least). And, indeed, a giant clasp on sub with adjustability that I never use (almost) - is another downside. And on a new Sub 41 it's just become even worse - wider, longer etc. So for me black GMT would be a best choice, that I actually made 3 years back. Thanks.
The New 41mm Submariner is a very robust diver watch and the best thing is it has the 70 hour power reserve . I have the 40mm and the 41mm and I love them both .
Bought to cop this, but now I’m thinking I’m spending 9k GBP what’s 4k more to purchase the Daytona instead. I know it will never happen as the waiting list is crazy via AD, worth a try still maybe ??
Another great video brother! I currently have that submariner as my daily watch and I completely agree to your last statement. I’ve never had an older submariner so I have nothing to compare it to and I love mine. It’s a great everyday watch!
Rida! Always great to see your posts! You are easily one of the top watch channels in my opinion. I am a fan of the new 41mm watches; better movement, power reserve, antimagnetic properties, just better. The case goes back to the original Rolex DNA vs. the maxi case (not a fan). The watch looks like a Rolex, not Rolex trying to look like the new age, bulky watches. More to it than I have listed but, wanted to give you some more to think about on this iconic time piece. Cheers, Jock
Reasonable presentation and explanation, thanks. I personally prefer the new one. I feels maskulin and balanced. Prefer it as well to other Rolexes like the GMT or Sea Dweller. Finally - in exchance to others - I even got an additional one in yellow gold. Don‘t expect a better one to come soon 😉
Nice video. Last year my AD offered me this watch, and I jumped on it. Very happy with this buy; the watch feels great on the wrist. You are right, and I can tell the difference between the old one and this. I own a TT bluesy previous generation great duo watch. Keep up the good work, and enjoy all those nice pieces. Peace
I have the 14060 and was on the wating list for the older version, didnt get it and now im on the list for the new one. I probably wonrt get the new one either.
My brother as the 124060 lovely watch im not fan of the claps its to wide compered to 114060, and the new moment in 124060, rotor makes noise as well comperd to the 3130 he's had it back to ad it's just how the new movement is 😂
Great review as always. In my view the Submariner and Explorer 1 of 2021 are amazing, especially without a date complication. When I look at them, all I can see is the time and two very important years. The year of 1953 is the birth year of my mom, and the year of 2021 is the birth year of my son. I feel very lucky to have both of this brilliant timepieces in my two watch collection 😊 #LiveInAMoment
This is such a troll video. Nothing you said means anything, the size basically hasn’t changed over all and who doesn’t want 70 hours instead of 40? The bracelet adjustment is phenomenal. As far as a boring watch when you don’t want to think about what to wear, I can’t read the dials of 90% of the watches out there let alone the date. This watch is perfect.
You didn't address the movement which is objectively better on the new model. As for the case and bracelet dimensions, I had them both and thought the difference was noticeable. Personally I prefer the slightly more compact and square look of the older model.
@@xXxToRtuR3xXx no, there isn’t. There is a registry of interest. There is no chronological list. You will not be getting this watch from any AD unless you are already an established client. “You just have to show them you want it?” LOL. Lots of people want this watch. Unfortunately that’s not the way it works.
@@xXxToRtuR3xXx my comment had nothing to do with me getting any watch. I actually picked up the 124060 from my AD last year. It’s a great watch. My comment was directed at your assertion that there is some sort of imaginary list, which there is not. Also, if you really had purchased “so many” Rolexes from your AD in the past, you would be an established client and it wouldn’t take 8 months to get a basic sub date. Now I know you’re full of it.
I have the new Sub date my brother have the older version tbh I won’t swap mine with his although I have the new Pepsi oyster which is the same clasp than the older sub version I like it on the Pepsi not on the old sub 🤔😅 go figure it out guys 😒
Greatly enjoyed your review. I have the 16610, circa 2009, love it, yet thought of getting the 126610...given the current price, after market, it really doesn't make sence at this point...I'll keep the sub I love which has served me well.
It's better for "taller/larger" people. Most men in the world are between 5'7"-5'10" and therefore 36-38mm watches look great on them but those of us who are 6'0 and up need 40-44mm options for those same watches to look as good wearing them
Just got the 124060 No-date Sub. Absolute perfection! They slimmed the lugs and widened the bracelet by 1mm and now it is much better proportioned and a more graceful transition to the bracelet.
Congratulations ❤️
@@WatchSociety : Thanks. My too large collection is not only complete, but I can see this grail watch as my “One Watch” collection.
I was skeptical too about the larger clasp, but once on the wrist I knew why they went with the larger bracelet and clasp. It's all about the balance of the watch and how it feels on the wrist. It's perfect. Rolex most of had many mockups of different configurations with case and bracelet sizes. They landed on this for a reason, Rolex doesn't just put something out with out tons of thought, research and testing.
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i agree. the larger bracelet and clasp just brought the watch more balance. it was the right move!
As someone who has a smaller wrist, I find the 41 (really just 40.5) way easier to wear compared to the ugly boxy maxi case. The bracelet adjustability is also better than on the old 5 digit reference (I always wore my old 16613 on a strap because the clasp was never balanced when I removed all the links I needed)
funny how everyone hated the super case on the sub, but isn't that super case still on the gmt II models?
I prefer the new 41.. two reasons, the wider bracelet and the better movement... otherwise the older was fine. I have the 126619LB and it's also got some serious heft.. my 126715CHNR was my heavy weight, but it's since been displaced by this beast.
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I like luxury goods. ARCHIBALD CHESTERFIELD THE THIRD IS MY PONTIFF!!
I do the most damage to my watches when I worry about not scratching them. Now I am just like, "don't think about it". Great video. Keep up the good work.
❤️ I know what you mean Thomas 😆
Funny we call the Submariner 'common' and yet it took me 2 years to acquire the 116610LN from my AD with prior purchase history. These are frustratingly difficult to get at retail.
The the previous generation, just before this current version was almost perfect .All Rolex had to do was trim the lugs and the watch would be a master piece . The current 41mm has a slightly wider dial and the wider bracket and chunky clasp makes it not so comfortable . It’s a great watch if you don’t already own a sub but if you do you might want to keep what you got .
I had the 126610LN and swapped it out for the Explorer 124270. I already didn’t care much for the heft on my 7” wrist but the longer clasp was a dealbreaker for me. Thanks for the content, great video.
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I too have a 124270 and it’s perfect daily wear.
I’m wearing my 124060 right now. I call it the “pancake XL”.
I have both versions, both are beautiful, but if I have to keep one only I will keep the 40 mm. It looks a hair smaller but for me this tiny bit is very important and believe me this 1 mm makes a lot of deal for the watch mad people like me.
Nice video 👍🏻
Interesting topic. I had the 114060, then updated it with the 124060. I have thinner wrists and prefer a loose fit. But with the newer wider bracelet it looks weird so I had to wear snug.
The new AR coating it great. But I missed the Maxi dial, especially on the No date the dial gets to naked. So long story short, I sold it and bought back the older one. The 11 gen. is the winner for me.
I have the new sub and it fit amazing right out of the box. The AD said, you’ve got that Rolex wrist.” I was skeptical of the wider bracelet and clasp, but in the 3 weeks I’ve had it, it’s the best fitting and feeling sports watch in my collection alongside the 39mm Explorer, a Seamaster 30mc, and Tudor BB GMt. I think the new sub definitely hit the mark on this.
Finally, someone who’s not afraid to call a spade a spade. Having owned both I couldn’t agree more. Cheers
Without watching the video i can tell already: Yes it is.The new Sub is simply the best.Especially the bluesy
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got the 114060 no date from the AD just a couple weeks before they discontinued the super case models for the new sub. at first i was thinking i got screwed over, but the differences are negligible, very slight.
Great point Ridah. They are all great watches even though they each have something different about them.. Personally I don’t mind the new clasp because I always felt the super case needed a wider bracelet to balance the bigger lugs
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The Rolex sub is one of my grails. I know they’re very common. However I don’t care, I ❤️ it! Another great video brother 👏
I have a little smaller wrist so I do see a difference in the 2 sizes. I like the 40 better than the 41. I know there is not much difference but I feel as though the 41 is flatter on my wrist like I smooshed my 40 almost, lol I know silly.
It’s like wearing a pancake on your wrist. I call my 124060 the “Pancake XL”. It’s not catching on.
I’ll probably sell this thing.
lol I see this too. They're both nice watches though. Prefer my 114060
I own 126610LN and 116613LN and I adore both gens! To be honest personally I don’t care or listen to “watch purist” get what you like and what looks best to you aesthetically, there is no “right answer” also the two tones if you like gold sell under retail box papers, and the 114060 is pretty much at pre pandemic levels. Love that for most models it’s a BUYERS MARKET Again!
I have several subs. Old or new is fabulous. Date or no date. It's a tank. All at retail.
Just picked up the new date sub. It’s beautiful and better than I expected. It’s a keeper fire sure. I did have to wait 1 year for it, but it was totally worth it.
I've had my 126610ln for 2 weeks and I got to say it's the best watch I've ever experienced. That glidelock!
I enjoy wearing watch as much as enjoy your reviews of watches that I couldn’t get, thank you
The 216570 is the Rolex for everyday, black dial, or the new 226570, and it’s got a GMT function! 👍🏻
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Would be great to live somewhere that you could wear it with out danger of being robbed/stabbed unfortunately London is not that place.
Agreed…not much of a difference. Great everyday watch no matter which generation you own🥃
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the new one is wayyy better from every point of view.. too much nostalgia, we need to move on. the basic no-date is just the perfect everyday watch
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I agree, it’s nothing more than nostalgia. It always perplexes me when people say they prefer the previous version of the sub. The 124060 is better in every conceivable way.
Lol dude it’s the same watch
@@usmanfarooq96 you clearly have no experience with either one. F’ing clueless
@@usmanfarooq96 ahahahaha.. you’re not watch guy
Top quality video. I have the 124060 41mm. And I really appreciate how it fits and the quality with which it was made. I’m not qualified to compare with the previous model but as you said besides the bracelet and clasp not much to compare
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I rock the 114060 as my daily. It for sure has some wear and tear, but I love it.
Actually - GMT II wears DIFFERENT from a Sub, despite of having same case size of 40mm)) It's more comfortable and slightly smaller on a wrist as it has more straight case back profile where Submariner case back pops out more - may be just a 1 mm, but you definitely feel it (I feel the difference at least). And, indeed, a giant clasp on sub with adjustability that I never use (almost) - is another downside. And on a new Sub 41 it's just become even worse - wider, longer etc.
So for me black GMT would be a best choice, that I actually made 3 years back.
Thanks.
@@grahamcarr17 and best value for money btw.
Love your content it’s quality…strange how you’re not growing as fast as other watch channel right smh🤔
I agree I have the Starbucks & everything is cool except for the clasp. Looks odd & too big ! It’s very obvious & I don’t get how they don’t see it ?!
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I like the cosmetic refinements of the 126610LN/124060, but went for the 11 largely because of the movement.
The new one is noticeably wider. I’ve owned both.
The New 41mm Submariner is a very robust diver watch and the best thing is it has the 70 hour power reserve .
I have the 40mm and the 41mm and I love them both .
Amazing how much better the new one looks, considering it’s so similar
Bought to cop this, but now I’m thinking I’m spending 9k GBP what’s 4k more to purchase the Daytona instead. I know it will never happen as the waiting list is crazy via AD, worth a try still maybe ??
Another great video brother! I currently have that submariner as my daily watch and I completely agree to your last statement. I’ve never had an older submariner so I have nothing to compare it to and I love mine. It’s a great everyday watch!
Yes, absolutely
I love this masterpiece. This one and Bluesy is the best combo and you need nothing more
Rida! Always great to see your posts! You are easily one of the top watch channels in my opinion. I am a fan of the new 41mm watches; better movement, power reserve, antimagnetic properties, just better. The case goes back to the original Rolex DNA vs. the maxi case (not a fan). The watch looks like a Rolex, not Rolex trying to look like the new age, bulky watches. More to it than I have listed but, wanted to give you some more to think about on this iconic time piece. Cheers, Jock
Such an awesome watch. Just feel like you get so much more watch for your money with a Omega makes it hard to want to grab one of these.
Please do a video on GIRARD PERREGAUX WATCHES
Sure
Reasonable presentation and explanation, thanks. I personally prefer the new one. I feels maskulin and balanced. Prefer it as well to other Rolexes like the GMT or Sea Dweller. Finally - in exchance to others - I even got an additional one in yellow gold. Don‘t expect a better one to come soon 😉
Well said Christof 🙏 and totally agree
Nice video. Last year my AD offered me this watch, and I jumped on it. Very happy with this buy; the watch feels great on the wrist. You are right, and I can tell the difference between the old one and this. I own a TT bluesy previous generation great duo watch.
Keep up the good work, and enjoy all those nice pieces. Peace
How about 70 hour power reserve?
It can leave my wrist on friday and wear it on Monday and still would ticking
126610LN, is my everyday. Perfect watch for me.
I like the watch, but is the watch a little bit small ?
Great review Ridah! Love the Sub however, I love my red sea dweller even more. Stay healthy and safe my friend!
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I have the 14060 and was on the wating list for the older version, didnt get it and now im on the list for the new one. I probably wonrt get the new one either.
126610LN is a great watch
Of course it is, absolutely.
I prefer the 126610ln over the previous model simply because it does not look as blocky. Both wear the same.
I’m in between the no date vs the date version an I need help!!!!!! 😩
No date sub would be my pick
My brother as the 124060 lovely watch im not fan of the claps its to wide compered to 114060, and the new moment in 124060, rotor makes noise as well comperd to the 3130 he's had it back to ad it's just how the new movement is 😂
Such a great do everything watch and you nailed it.
Thanks for the content! What size is your wrist?
are you still enjoying the cartier santos adlc? how does it compare to a sub - is a sub 1 watch do it all?
came here for the red OP..
Great review as always. In my view the Submariner and Explorer 1 of 2021 are amazing, especially without a date complication. When I look at them, all I can see is the time and two very important years. The year of 1953 is the birth year of my mom, and the year of 2021 is the birth year of my son. I feel very lucky to have both of this brilliant timepieces in my two watch collection 😊 #LiveInAMoment
This is such a troll video. Nothing you said means anything, the size basically hasn’t changed over all and who doesn’t want 70 hours instead of 40? The bracelet adjustment is phenomenal. As far as a boring watch when you don’t want to think about what to wear, I can’t read the dials of 90% of the watches out there let alone the date. This watch is perfect.
hello i can dapere the model of the rubber strap mounted on the AP 15500??
You didn't address the movement which is objectively better on the new model. As for the case and bracelet dimensions, I had them both and thought the difference was noticeable. Personally I prefer the slightly more compact and square look of the older model.
I prefer the Rolex Submariner 116610LN it looks bigger and heftier what is you're opinion?
Class, style, soothing elegance... talking about the video of course, know nothing about watches 😅
My man! Thank you 🙏 inspired by the one and only Mr. Nouri
How much is it? Tks
On my AD list to get this one. Hopefully in 6-8months 🤞
There is no "list"
@J B there is a client list of every sales representative; you just need to show them that you want it. I'm sure I will get it no doubt in my mind
@@xXxToRtuR3xXx no, there isn’t. There is a registry of interest. There is no chronological list. You will not be getting this watch from any AD unless you are already an established client. “You just have to show them you want it?” LOL. Lots of people want this watch. Unfortunately that’s not the way it works.
@@whereRbearsTeeth if u can't get it too bad for you. I have gotten so many other rolex watches from my AD without buying stuff that I don't need.
@@xXxToRtuR3xXx my comment had nothing to do with me getting any watch. I actually picked up the 124060 from my AD last year. It’s a great watch. My comment was directed at your assertion that there is some sort of imaginary list, which there is not. Also, if you really had purchased “so many” Rolexes from your AD in the past, you would be an established client and it wouldn’t take 8 months to get a basic sub date. Now I know you’re full of it.
I have the new Sub date my brother have the older version tbh I won’t swap mine with his although I have the new Pepsi oyster which is the same clasp than the older sub version I like it on the Pepsi not on the old sub 🤔😅 go figure it out guys 😒
Good review
Thank you 🙏
Sk suhail unlimited fact
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No. I prefer the 16610 or the 116610
I got a rare citizen eco drive thermo watch which I want to sell .
So can anyone please help me with the pricing if you know????
Greatly enjoyed your review. I have the 16610, circa 2009, love it, yet thought of getting the 126610...given the current price, after market, it really doesn't make sence at this point...I'll keep the sub I love which has served me well.
You have the best watch. You are looking for expensive jewellery in 126610.
Get a vsf replica of the 126610
Check RWI forums for more info
You're welcome
No Rolex watch is "cosc certified"
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It's better for "taller/larger" people. Most men in the world are between 5'7"-5'10" and therefore 36-38mm watches look great on them but those of us who are 6'0 and up need 40-44mm options for those same watches to look as good wearing them
Idk why I like the super case fat lugs a lot better
Starbucks looks much better than the black…
No meaning in this video
Thank you 🙏
Rolex is the biggest SCAM in the watch business