Ultimately, an accident-free lesson learned. Thanks to your gut feeling, damage to your narrowboat was averted. Hopefully, the others, who had the same problem, were also successful. Thank you for this video.
@@NarrowboatJourneys You were lucky with that lower paddle, but you also have mad skills to figure out what was wrong fast. And the water goddesses are watching over you so you always land on your feet.
Distracted locking phew ! Lucky Phil. If you had opened both paddles on the lower gate you had a very high risk of sinking your boat ! ! Bloomin heck Phil. Warning close top lock paddles before opening lower gate paddles. Scary Phil. Hope your back is better. Keep safe
Exact same thing happened to a hire boat crew at Hunts Lock Fradley... as in your case the boat gets drawn back via the undertow of the incoming water. They were panicking as I was walking to my mooring and luckily I did exactly as you did dropped the bottom gate paddle before spotting the one top paddle was half open... scary, glad you managed to stop the situation getting worse
This is why I would probably never have the guts to take out a narrowboat, much easier to watch the vlogs. Was so worried about the cats. Hope your back is better now Phil. 🍀
Hi Phil. The racks on this lock were halved quite a while ago. The lock used to be extremely fierce and a steerer was swept off the stern of his boat and killed. Crt then halved the racks.Glad nothing serious happened.
That was a close one Phil! I took our boat through that lock in May and although we were going the other way, up from Kings Lock, I found it was a very fierce lock and could only just control my boat with a line to prevent it slamming into the front gate. I would certainly be cautious when using this lock again!
Just an aside Phil from your episode which has left you with a worthwhile albeit a painful experience. From our time on the canals we often saw hire boaters allowing their young children to open paddles on top and bottom locks straining pulling and heaving the windless. I am afraid witnessing this was like a red rag to a bull as far as I was concerned. And in no uncertain terms did I inform the parents to that effect. If the child slipped and fell in it potentially could drown. Locks are very dangerous places if not given the respect they command.
Hey Phil I experienced the same on the Trent and Mersey - frightening! A couple were admiring ducklings and left one paddle open, but partly my fault for forgetting to check all paddles on entering the lock.
Its easily done my dear......but please don't leave your windlass on the spindle....ever!! That might have been the next crisis!! Thanks for highlighting the error, I shall be more alert to doing the same thing!
t's a popular myth that even the CRT believe! If the ratchet is properly engaged, and fit for purpose. It is practically impossible for it to slip. I do check carefully if it is safe. In this case the paddle was already lowered and so could not slip even if it wanted to.
Crickey! That just shows; it can happen to anybody! The same thing happened to me on a lock on the Leeds-Liverpool in the early eighties. A friend and I were on lock duty while the owner did the driving. Left both paddles open and the water gushed in. Extremely frightening. We managed to rectify matters before the boat was damaged but we got an awful earful from a properly irate owner. It didn't happen again!
Well done for highlighting this, it could have been nasty. There should probably be a reminder notice there, or they could paint the racks a bright colour so it's obvious when they are up.
Phil, we had a similar incident at Grindley Brook, The lock keeper left the bottom paddles open when we were in the middle lock. He dropped us on the bottom. Video will be up soon. Even the experts can get it wrong.
@@NarrowboatJourneys Well don't make a habit of having to produce these sort of videos but when things do happen, it's really a help to see it happen, have it explained, and be advised on how to handle what could easily become an emergency.
Especially on that lock as there were no visual clues as to whether the paddles were up or down. I'm sure I would have spotted it if the rack was longer.
Very easy to do we noticed how short the rachets were when we came that way yesterday. Is that your windlass left on the lower paddle? That can be Very dangerous as well. I hope the back got better quickley, boating and bad backs do not go well together particularly if you are single handed.
It's a popular myth that even the CRT believe! If the ratchet is properly engaged, and fit for purpose. It is practically impossible for it to slip. I do check carefully if it is safe. In this case the paddle was already lowered and so could not slip even if it wanted to.
@@NarrowboatJourneys Yes Phil, it's only on raised paddles that it's dangerous as on a lowered one there is no 'stored' energy to be released if a boat should clout the gate etc!
Wow! It's so easy to nearly trigger an accident. It reminds me of the 'fire triangle' . So with none or just one element there's little chance of an accident, but the fixed equipment is lacking the usual visual cues and there was some distraction. Nobody's fault of course. The third element might have been you not noticing your boat being pulled back or you opening that second gate's paddle. Glad you and crew OK
Scary... Or it could be "old timer's disease" catching up on thee? All far too early in the morning for me anyway ... and all single handed phew! Too much like hard work! So..the question is; How is it that David of 'Cruising the Cut' can get a handy helper ( PoB ) to do the gates for him whilst you struggle on alone? Not fair is it! May I suggest you need to advertise on that thar social media for a gate-hand...paid in cups of tea? You never know, you might get lots of jolly willing winders to join you. Do take care...though it's does seem cruising is becoming more and more perilous every single day, just from watching your vlogs...Do keep safe.
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Ultimately, an accident-free lesson learned. Thanks to your gut feeling, damage to your narrowboat was averted. Hopefully, the others, who had the same problem, were also successful. Thank you for this video.
Good to show this to help other boaters, situation could turn bad so fast. Glad nothing bad happened to your boat.
It would have been bad if I'd raised both paddles on the lower gate instead of just one.
@@NarrowboatJourneys You were lucky with that lower paddle, but you also have mad skills to figure out what was wrong fast. And the water goddesses are watching over you so you always land on your feet.
Thank you for this warning. Glad you got through it alright.
Very glad you shared this as it is a lesson to us all
Distracted locking phew !
Lucky Phil.
If you had opened both paddles on the lower gate you had a very high risk of sinking your boat ! !
Bloomin heck Phil.
Warning close top lock paddles before opening lower gate paddles.
Scary Phil.
Hope your back is better.
Keep safe
I think I would have reacted in time. I was paying attention to the boat in the lock.
Exact same thing happened to a hire boat crew at Hunts Lock Fradley... as in your case the boat gets drawn back via the undertow of the incoming water. They were panicking as I was walking to my mooring and luckily I did exactly as you did dropped the bottom gate paddle before spotting the one top paddle was half open... scary, glad you managed to stop the situation getting worse
This is why I would probably never have the guts to take out a narrowboat, much easier to watch the vlogs. Was so worried about the cats. Hope your back is better now Phil. 🍀
999 times out of a thousand it will be fine. ;-)
Oops. Glad it worked out in the end and well done for admitting the mistake publicly so others can learn from it Phil.
Apparently that lock is notorious. But I didn't have the local knowledge.
Hi Phil. The racks on this lock were halved quite a while ago. The lock used to be extremely fierce and a steerer was swept off the stern of his boat and killed. Crt then halved the racks.Glad nothing serious happened.
They were unusually short. I've only ever been that way twice before so didn't know that. ;-)
That was a close one Phil! I took our boat through that lock in May and although we were going the other way, up from Kings Lock, I found it was a very fierce lock and could only just control my boat with a line to prevent it slamming into the front gate. I would certainly be cautious when using this lock again!
Very slow and gentle with the paddles - just one I think. I'll be going that way again in a few weeks I expect...
Hi, you need to send a message to the crt so they can sort it out or place a sign stating what can go wrong their, great content as always.
Thank you. I've told them about it...
That was very interesting, shows how easy it is to make mistakes, however experienced you are.
Just an aside Phil from your episode which has left you with a worthwhile albeit a painful experience.
From our time on the canals we often saw hire boaters allowing their young children to open paddles on top and bottom locks straining pulling and heaving the windless.
I am afraid witnessing this was like a red rag to a bull as far as I was concerned.
And in no uncertain terms did I inform the parents to that effect.
If the child slipped and fell in it potentially could drown.
Locks are very dangerous places if not given the respect they command.
Even adults struggle to raise some lock paddles. Boating is dangerous! - full stop. ;-)
Hey Phil I experienced the same on the Trent and Mersey - frightening! A couple were admiring ducklings and left one paddle open, but partly my fault for forgetting to check all paddles on entering the lock.
Boating is indeed a dangerous occupation.
Its easily done my dear......but please don't leave your windlass on the spindle....ever!! That might have been the next crisis!!
Thanks for highlighting the error, I shall be more alert to doing the same thing!
t's a popular myth that even the CRT believe! If the ratchet is properly engaged, and fit for purpose. It is practically impossible for it to slip. I do check carefully if it is safe. In this case the paddle was already lowered and so could not slip even if it wanted to.
Crickey! That just shows; it can happen to anybody! The same thing happened to me on a lock on the Leeds-Liverpool in the early eighties. A friend and I were on lock duty while the owner did the driving. Left both paddles open and the water gushed in. Extremely frightening. We managed to rectify matters before the boat was damaged but we got an awful earful from a properly irate owner. It didn't happen again!
Whoops, sometimes we miss things! You, like me - we get back on track.... Thanks for being a good friend x
Just goes to show how easy accidents could happen,take care Phil.
Well done for highlighting this, it could have been nasty. There should probably be a reminder notice there, or they could paint the racks a bright colour so it's obvious when they are up.
I suggested that to them - they did nothing.
@@NarrowboatJourneys Heh... CaRT... gawd bless 'em. Maybe they like fishing upended boats out of locks. ;)
Phil, we had a similar incident at Grindley Brook, The lock keeper left the bottom paddles open when we were in the middle lock. He dropped us on the bottom. Video will be up soon. Even the experts can get it wrong.
I hate Grindley Brook staircase!
I did exactly the same thing on that same lock a couple of years ago!
I have notified the CRT about it but whether they'll do anything remains to be seen.
Thank you for sharing this
Thank you. Videos like this get many more views than my cruising vids. :-(
@@NarrowboatJourneys Well don't make a habit of having to produce these sort of videos but when things do happen, it's really a help to see it happen, have it explained, and be advised on how to handle what could easily become an emergency.
Hi Phil You was lucky there could have been Very Embarrassing, at least the story has a Happy ending, apart from your back.
Thankfully I wasn't there. Probably sunk both to save one.. .I will give you a massage. But think you pull a tendon.....nice boating. Skip...xxoo.
So easy to do if you're distracted while doing a lock!
First time in nearly 30 years.
I think that is a mistake that can be made so easily. Glad nothing too serious happened.
Especially on that lock as there were no visual clues as to whether the paddles were up or down. I'm sure I would have spotted it if the rack was longer.
Very easy to do we noticed how short the rachets were when we came that way yesterday.
Is that your windlass left on the lower paddle? That can be Very dangerous as well.
I hope the back got better quickley, boating and bad backs do not go well together particularly if you are single handed.
It's a popular myth that even the CRT believe! If the ratchet is properly engaged, and fit for purpose. It is practically impossible for it to slip. I do check carefully if it is safe. In this case the paddle was already lowered and so could not slip even if it wanted to.
@@NarrowboatJourneys Yes Phil, it's only on raised paddles that it's dangerous as on a lowered one there is no 'stored' energy to be released if a boat should clout the gate etc!
Wow! It's so easy to nearly trigger an accident. It reminds me of the 'fire triangle' . So with none or just one element there's little chance of an accident, but the fixed equipment is lacking the usual visual cues and there was some distraction. Nobody's fault of course. The third element might have been you not noticing your boat being pulled back or you opening that second gate's paddle. Glad you and crew OK
The rear fender was resting on the cill but the boat had not started to tip. At that point the water flow into, and out of the lock was almost equal.
The one video I've seen a narrowboat sinking was the result of being hung up on the sill.
If you were playing spot the difference you’d never see the difference in the paddles. I hope your back is feeling better.
I'm glad things turned out all right. Bravo for turning this incident into a teachable moment ʕ •́؈•̀ ʔ
I was on the edge of my seat, figuratively. Expecting so much worse, although it was bad enough.
I left out the 10 minutes of pulling on ropes, and did not get video of the rear fender resting on top of the cill.
I can see what you mean, they are not that obvious. One to look out for.
It's so easily done, especially when you are distracted.
Scary...
Or it could be "old timer's disease" catching up on thee?
All far too early in the morning for me anyway ... and all single handed phew!
Too much like hard work!
So..the question is; How is it that David of 'Cruising the Cut' can get a handy helper ( PoB ) to do the gates for him whilst you struggle on alone?
Not fair is it!
May I suggest you need to advertise on that thar social media for a gate-hand...paid in cups of tea?
You never know, you might get lots of jolly willing winders to join you.
Do take care...though it's does seem cruising is becoming more and more perilous every single day, just from watching your vlogs...Do keep safe.
My first senior moment perhaps?
David's got the most subscribers by far, so they all flock to his side! ;-)