Resident Evil: The Complete Timeline

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @dem7556
    @dem7556 4 года назад +809

    No Resident Evil summary is complete without the boulder punching

    • @pepethefrog6809
      @pepethefrog6809 3 года назад +1

      Leon runs away from the Boulder, Chris faces the boulder and punches it! OOGA BOOGA!

  • @Rashed1255
    @Rashed1255 4 года назад +415

    If they didn’t include the boulder punching, this video would’ve been illegal

  • @aphotosyntheticworld
    @aphotosyntheticworld 3 года назад +116

    Gotta love literally 10 seconds spent on RE0.

  • @IAmNonCreative
    @IAmNonCreative 4 года назад +176

    I'm tryna learn all this for re 8 and I'm just starting to think it's impossible without playing the games yourself or listening to this over and over again lol.

    • @igorz4582
      @igorz4582 3 года назад +19

      They're barely relevant to 8,just know who umbrella and chris resfield are play 7 and ur set

    • @gabeschugardt5710
      @gabeschugardt5710 3 года назад +42

      The simple breakdown is this:
      A corporation called Umbrella makes a ton of bioweapons that make zombies and other monsters for military use, but are shut down by the government after their viruses infect a city named Raccoon City and the government has to nuke it to stop the spread. Before they're shut down, all their research on bioweapons gets out into the hands of loads of other people through various means, and three former police officers from Raccoon City named Chris Redfield, Jill Valentine, and Leon S. Kennedy dedicate themselves to stopping the spread of bioweapons around the world, then have various adventures in order to do so.
      That plus the Wikipedia plot of RE 7 should be enough for you to understand RE 8. "Understand" being a relative term here.

    • @bambi.nisseni
      @bambi.nisseni Год назад

      @@gabeschugardt5710 I've watched 3 separate timeline videos and this summed it up nicely. Ofc most people would watch these to see further into the troubles the officers faced.

  • @zayjay26
    @zayjay26 4 года назад +123

    Love that they included the “Resident Evil” title screen voices for the games

  • @jcfed318
    @jcfed318 4 года назад +256

    "after some boulder punching" got me. hahaha

  • @kenyontwing1027
    @kenyontwing1027 4 года назад +222

    Now explain it to me like I am 5 years old

  • @tonyinfinite5174
    @tonyinfinite5174 4 года назад +36

    Umbrella should also count as a demolition company for every self destruct system in every game

  • @baptisedathiest5077
    @baptisedathiest5077 4 года назад +231

    This just makes me want to play all the re games again. Even re6

    • @malpal5825
      @malpal5825 4 года назад +11

      Same,starting with Code Veronica which I have not played in forever.

    • @devinforman8213
      @devinforman8213 4 года назад +8

      Same here I want to play them all in order now.

    • @jeremyroberts8822
      @jeremyroberts8822 4 года назад +5

      mal pal I think I’m gonna wait a lil bit longer before I start replaying them all again because I have a feeling that they are going to do a full remake of code Veronica or atleast I hope they do. I really wanna see that game with modern graphics and a third person over the shoulder perspective

    • @deathclutch8681
      @deathclutch8681 4 года назад +3

      jeremy roberts they are doing RE 4 remake first. And then maybe that? Idk

    • @mcconartist3281
      @mcconartist3281 4 года назад +4

      I replayed them all (bar 6) before RE3 remake came out. 😂

  • @TheStrangePoet3791
    @TheStrangePoet3791 3 года назад +54

    So if anyone important in this franchise dies... they don’t actually die.

    • @thefabicule6775
      @thefabicule6775 3 года назад +9

      Wait till you finish Village

    • @GAZAMAN93X
      @GAZAMAN93X 3 года назад

      @@thefabicule6775 hah. Those guys lame. Not important.

    • @ClearLoki
      @ClearLoki 3 года назад +1

      @@GAZAMAN93X Lol, these old fans that think That new resident evil it's bad

  • @symbolitical4158
    @symbolitical4158 4 года назад +102

    *this video really makes you feel like you're resident evil*

    • @symbolitical4158
      @symbolitical4158 4 года назад +2

      @AggrievedCommenter you're the best aggrieved commenter there is :')

    • @drakonhebi3786
      @drakonhebi3786 4 года назад +1

      mega BIG videogamedunkey vibes over here xd

  • @GrizzlyCheese
    @GrizzlyCheese 4 года назад +176

    since i don’t have a girlfriend, i’m just gonna restart all these games + the revelations series and hopefully re8 will be out once i finish

    • @justice4all190
      @justice4all190 4 года назад +9

      You don't need girldfriend lol.... you need women to make you children. Girls lol.......

    • @casualscrub909
      @casualscrub909 4 года назад +7

      flawed logic and you sound like a blue pill beta

    • @chucke2319
      @chucke2319 4 года назад +4

      Ain't nothing wrong with that RE is always dope to go back to you'll end up realizing you forgot more than you remembered especially if you haven't played for a while

    • @Stryker5757
      @Stryker5757 3 года назад

      Fortnite Battle Royale

    • @emfuji
      @emfuji 3 года назад +2

      Hows it going bro

  • @onewingedgamer96
    @onewingedgamer96 4 года назад +41

    You forgot to mention that Wesker was the one that took out Umbrella in the Umbrella Chronicles.

    • @giovannigiovanni.7220
      @giovannigiovanni.7220 4 года назад +2

      Wesker didn't take out Umbrella.

    • @onewingedgamer96
      @onewingedgamer96 4 года назад +7

      @@giovannigiovanni.7220 He destroyed the Red Queen AI and leaked Umbrella's secrets to the public which brought them down.

    • @giovannigiovanni.7220
      @giovannigiovanni.7220 4 года назад +2

      @@onewingedgamer96 Bro, which male Wesker are you talking about?

    • @newageBoundhippie
      @newageBoundhippie 3 года назад +3

      @@giovannigiovanni.7220 Albert Wesker....Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles, the light gun rail shooters on Wii that mostly retell the events of the series, feature new stories that flesh out come key events. 1 centers on Wesker prior to his fight with Chris & Jill at the Spencer mansion in RE5's Lost In Nightmares DLC ( which involves exactly what he was talking about: destroying the Red Queen AI and exposing Umbrella's secrets. Wesker was done with Umbrella by that point anyway. ), the other is about a mission Leon undertook with Krauser sometime between the events of RE2 and RE4.

  • @prince_kirin7538
    @prince_kirin7538 4 года назад +20

    Thank you for this much appreciated 👍

    • @IGN
      @IGN  4 года назад +6

      No problem! - Dale.

  • @jankdotTV
    @jankdotTV 4 года назад +106

    “Very condensed” means it doesn’t include every single details boys, it’s the broadstrokes

  • @tiredofthebs9
    @tiredofthebs9 3 года назад +10

    All the blood and airborne particles these characters are exposed to still don’t get sick.

  • @WeaponOfMyDestructio
    @WeaponOfMyDestructio 4 года назад +13

    The only thing I can't get is why do these people keep going with these bio weapons when every single time is ended horribly like there's never been a successful attempt.

  • @mayankgupta2955
    @mayankgupta2955 4 года назад +8

    Finally someone did it...
    All in the perfect chronological order to see the whole plot...

  • @real_rumin
    @real_rumin 4 года назад +4

    Resident Evil 4 will always be my favourite game just because I have some many fun memories of it.

  • @TonkarzOfSolSystem
    @TonkarzOfSolSystem 3 года назад +8

    2:15 To be fair Umbrella betrayed Birkin first. They fired him and tried to steal his research when the project was complete.

  • @Elibbb-sx3kg
    @Elibbb-sx3kg 4 года назад +65

    Mr x vs nemesis the only re game that i want to see

    • @extranationrecordsofficial1826
      @extranationrecordsofficial1826 4 года назад +1

      Freddy Vs Jason haha

    • @alejandro10751
      @alejandro10751 4 года назад +19

      Nemesis is a superior version of Mr. X. Has nothing to do.

    • @Fadeddreams5
      @Fadeddreams5 4 года назад +8

      Nemesis IS a Mr.X, only one that has been implanted with a parasite to make him stronger, smarter, and more durable in every way.

    • @justice4all190
      @justice4all190 4 года назад +1

      @@Fadeddreams5 This

  • @BubblyJubbly
    @BubblyJubbly 4 года назад +40

    They actually had the audacity to skip Revelations. I don’t even think they know that it’s canon to the events of RE5.

    • @real_rumin
      @real_rumin 4 года назад +2

      I liked revelations and its second part

    • @jamesrwarzyniak3190
      @jamesrwarzyniak3190 3 года назад +5

      Revalations are probably the best re games in years. Rev2 was amazing! My favorite!

  • @hellish958
    @hellish958 4 года назад +20

    *In short a series carried by a giga chad named "leon" and a boulder puncher named"chris"*

  • @weightycarlos
    @weightycarlos 4 года назад +43

    I just need to know Jill's story after RE5 cause we haven't seen or heard from her in 11 or 12 years.

    • @arotheredone
      @arotheredone 4 года назад +9

      In REvelations 2 there is a secret file where Jill sends a E-Mail to Barry telling him that the scientists are still doing research on her body to check if there is any T-Virus trace on her body

    • @DAT415
      @DAT415 4 года назад +20

      @@arotheredone that's a really long therapy. i just want jill and claire back in the main story.

    • @____________838
      @____________838 3 года назад

      Maybe RE9 will have Jill tutoring Rose?

    • @shap7296
      @shap7296 3 года назад

      @@____________838 wonder if they gonna change the gameplay and let you play as Jedi rose

  • @tobiaspauli
    @tobiaspauli 4 года назад +29

    so you skipped revelations?

    • @deathclutch8681
      @deathclutch8681 4 года назад +6

      He did mention them just didn’t include them

    • @RedHoodOutlaw
      @RedHoodOutlaw 4 года назад +3

      Everyone skipped revelation except its 5 fans including you.

  • @Jacobnelz44
    @Jacobnelz44 4 года назад +48

    You should’ve included the revelations stories especially number 2

  • @Eevivivi
    @Eevivivi 4 года назад +3

    Anyone who’s thinking of getting into this series... do it. The plot is kind of silly but they’re great games.

    • @charlotteweir4955
      @charlotteweir4955 4 года назад

      I just recently got into the series and it's one of the best decisions iv made

  • @J2ojuiced95
    @J2ojuiced95 4 года назад +28

    The revelations games shouldn’t have been left out, as they give a lot of backstory and link quite closely to the main games.

    • @arotheredone
      @arotheredone 4 года назад +3

      @AggrievedCommenter Spamming the same as other comments i see

  • @shivankranjan4748
    @shivankranjan4748 4 года назад +1

    It's explained better than the previous video about RE series

  • @4rlorn
    @4rlorn 4 года назад +4

    3:15 wasn't Jill unconscious during the events of RE2 and woke up days after Leon, Claire and Sherry had left the city? (and not Jill being infected after RE2 like in the video)??

  • @Knoah321
    @Knoah321 3 года назад +3

    Resident Evil series in a nutshell:
    1) RPG to the boss
    2) Escape using helicopter
    3) Self destruction base

  • @janabomalarka5722
    @janabomalarka5722 4 года назад +9

    So in the game there are other virus that cause an outbreak other than the T-Virus but in the movie the story revolves around finding a cure for the T-Virus.

  • @dereksimmons2492
    @dereksimmons2492 4 года назад +12

    My favorite is RE4, what’s yours?

    • @arotheredone
      @arotheredone 4 года назад

      REvelations 2 is my favorite :3

    • @hardthinking
      @hardthinking 4 года назад

      Really close between 4 and 1, but I'll give it to RE1

    • @JarvisCosric885
      @JarvisCosric885 4 года назад +1

      Code Veronica X and RE4 are mine. I also enjoy RE 5, 7, 2 and 3 as well. But my main favorite RE is either Code Veronica or RE4

    • @muhammadnazriadlani2552
      @muhammadnazriadlani2552 4 года назад

      Resident evil 1 and 5

  • @NinjaKnight117
    @NinjaKnight117 4 года назад +5

    I like how these videos come up everytime either a new game comes out or when a new game gets announced. If you haven't seen a RE recap video yet then you've been under a rock.

    • @bcg2398
      @bcg2398 3 года назад +2

      Or just weren’t a fan until recently

  • @jaya_surya_a5118
    @jaya_surya_a5118 3 года назад +4

    Boulder punching & pushing the rock is undeniable....

  • @ROA277
    @ROA277 4 года назад +10

    The franchise that never move forward

  • @aoiyuureisuru7656
    @aoiyuureisuru7656 3 года назад +4

    So there's no real story reason as to why there are Lycans and Vampires running around in the 8th game? They just felt like changing things up?

  • @EhCloserLook
    @EhCloserLook 3 года назад

    Honestly, I feel sorry for people who are spoiling the plot of the games with this video. The RE saga is sooo EPIC. Bar-none best to be experienced first-hand without any spoilers for sure!

  • @commandonate9618
    @commandonate9618 4 года назад +10

    Was actually expecting a resident evil 4 remake then we got 8 extremely exited for it

    • @ChrisGenixYT
      @ChrisGenixYT Год назад +3

      And now you have resident evil 4 remake

  • @arsalansyed123
    @arsalansyed123 4 года назад +5

    Revelations 1 and 2 are also considered main series.

  • @doubtingthomas321
    @doubtingthomas321 3 года назад +2

    Resident Evil returns, and even if you've played all the other games, you might still be wondering what the hell is going on

  • @Imamobile
    @Imamobile 4 года назад

    Wesker didn't inject himself with the actual T-virus but an experimental strain of it. There were plagas in RE5, type-2 plagas. The great majority of the enemies in that game are infected with plagas, only some bosses are actually infected with uroboros. I understand why the Revelations games weren't mentioned here BUT, since this is supposed to be a recap for people interested in catching up for RE8 I have to say, Revelations 2 is super important for understanding Resident Evil 8.

  • @_zry
    @_zry 4 года назад +5

    How about revelations 1 & 2 ?? I heard rumors & read somewhere about Resident Evil Village is a sequel to RE 7 & RE:R2 .. Some said Resident evil Village is Resident evil Revelations 3

    • @arotheredone
      @arotheredone 4 года назад

      It was planned to be REvelations 3 but Capcom changed their mind

    • @_zry
      @_zry 4 года назад +1

      @@arotheredone i see. so is it a sequel to revelations 2 or brand new story? because i cant find my answer

    • @arotheredone
      @arotheredone 4 года назад

      @@_zry I also dont know sorry :(
      It seems that it will be a RE7/REvelations 2 game based game

  • @Fachri444
    @Fachri444 4 года назад +10

    Resident Evil without Leon looks like GTA San Andreas without CJ, they are important characters that are very iconic.

    • @alejandro10751
      @alejandro10751 4 года назад +2

      Yea, RE1, 3, CODE VERONICA, ZERO, Aren t resident evil right??
      Leon fangirls are the worst

  • @AdamAve93
    @AdamAve93 3 года назад

    The original resident evil will always be my favorite. Still play it till this day.

  • @aranerem3767
    @aranerem3767 4 года назад +3

    Resident evil games are the best

    • @DevilFan669
      @DevilFan669 4 года назад

      Aran Erem you got that right that for sure

  • @ryuuotaku35
    @ryuuotaku35 4 года назад

    Thanks for explaining the story

  • @im415again
    @im415again 3 года назад +1

    I had to check comments to make sure this video contained Boulder punching before watching.

  • @chrisredfield8590
    @chrisredfield8590 4 года назад +7

    7:47 you mean Jill Valentine.

  • @gizmo928
    @gizmo928 4 года назад +1

    Village gives off major RE4 vibes

  • @VVV953
    @VVV953 4 года назад

    You didn't include the events from the CGI movies?

  • @xxmr.edoodxx5326
    @xxmr.edoodxx5326 3 года назад

    Was Carlos oliveira in the original res? Or just the remakes to go along with the movies character 🙄

    • @ramasaha409
      @ramasaha409 3 года назад +1

      Yes there were three of them, Jill Valentine, Carlos Oliveira and Barry Burton. But Barry Burton was not included in RE 3 remake.

  • @alejandrooliva8888
    @alejandrooliva8888 4 года назад +12

    To be honest i dont get why they skip revelations 1 & 2

  • @angelchang5194
    @angelchang5194 4 года назад +38

    I wish there was a Paul W.S. Anderson character that we could sacrifice to Mr. X , 😏😏

    • @payne8632
      @payne8632 4 года назад +2

      😂😂

    • @callumgilchrist
      @callumgilchrist 4 года назад +1

      There is...her name is Alice. And she remembers everything 🤣

    • @osvald860
      @osvald860 4 года назад

      Lol wkwkwkw

  • @Cheetowitcheese
    @Cheetowitcheese 3 года назад

    Great Series 👍

  • @jamlamareen9827
    @jamlamareen9827 4 года назад

    I sow this type of RE video 468976544 times. Enough.

  • @devinforman8213
    @devinforman8213 4 года назад

    Revelations 1&2 and that Leon story in darkside chronicles would have been worth mentioning too. Are the movies cannon? The animated ones.

    • @jeremyroberts8822
      @jeremyroberts8822 4 года назад

      Hmmm I’m not sure if the movies are supposed to be canon or not. I think they are

    • @charlotteweir4955
      @charlotteweir4955 4 года назад

      I'm pretty sure the movies are cannon

    • @newageBoundhippie
      @newageBoundhippie 3 года назад

      yes, the animated films are canon as is the upcoming animated series on Netflix. also, in addition to the Revelations games and that Leon & Krauser story in Darkside Chronicles there's the Wesker story in Umbrella Chronicles that actually ties into the fall of Umbrella mentioned at the start of the RE4 part of the video

  • @itzchdedx4986
    @itzchdedx4986 4 года назад +2

    New resident evil gonna be so badass on my ps5 too hyped after the reveal event!

    • @DevilFan669
      @DevilFan669 4 года назад +2

      HC 17758091 and why that

  • @Jason-hl2wy
    @Jason-hl2wy 3 года назад

    What's more complicated resident evil or metal gear solid?

  • @juampiursic
    @juampiursic 4 года назад

    Is there a site, subreddit, a wiki, whatever, to read all about Resident Evil? Are all the titles connected? I really need to play them but I wanna know if everyone of them is connected to each other and if they all need to be played in order to get the importat bits of the story.

  • @Celicagame13
    @Celicagame13 4 года назад +4

    They said almost nothing about RE0

  • @0PTIC5
    @0PTIC5 4 года назад +1

    Were the animated movies supposed to be canon?

  • @adi271
    @adi271 4 года назад +3

    8:06 Jake and Sherry went to China to confront Simmons lmao

  • @fauxpas1650
    @fauxpas1650 3 года назад +1

    the ending of RE village is amazing

  • @FantasyNero
    @FantasyNero 3 года назад

    You forgot Resident Evil The Darkside Chronicles which should be before Resident Evil 4 Storyline

  • @mmcray1688
    @mmcray1688 4 года назад +2

    why would you think revelation series are not important ?

  • @moussi22
    @moussi22 4 года назад +4

    A small mistake you made there. The re5 zombies are not infected by uroboros but an evolved type of the las plagas seen in 4.

  • @albertwesker9592
    @albertwesker9592 4 года назад

    You forgot the umbrella chronicles, darkside chronicles, revelations 1 and 2...
    Since rumor say that alex wesker will be the villain of re 8, putting revelations 2 should be a priority

  • @dashingdreww1185
    @dashingdreww1185 4 года назад +1

    How did Ada survive the fall ?

    • @arotheredone
      @arotheredone 4 года назад

      The true timeline is on Leon B on classic RE2 when Ada is "killed" by MR X, the fall is only an alternate ending on Leon A

  • @WestsideMas
    @WestsideMas 4 года назад

    not nearly enough games with Chris Redfield, my favourite character..

  • @SkyleneEmber
    @SkyleneEmber 4 года назад +1

    IGN you missed LOTS OF DETAILS......... The movies, two revelations game, and hey the list go on

  • @leandromoninio
    @leandromoninio 3 года назад

    any updates about this timeline since re8 has been released?😁

    • @acebrawler2000
      @acebrawler2000 3 года назад

      RE8 takes place 3 years after 7. There you go

  • @wazowskiitime3136
    @wazowskiitime3136 3 года назад +1

    Would love to see Sheva again. Alongside jill or chris again

  • @endryryzal718
    @endryryzal718 4 года назад

    You forgot to mention story about what happen between Leon and Jack Krauser in Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles - Operation Javier, and i don't get why you didn't include story Resident Evil Revelation 1 & 2?

  • @Pfizer980
    @Pfizer980 4 года назад +1

    7:05 why does some boulder punching has to be an important part to be showrn in this GREAT WHOLE synopsis of RE series?😁

  • @drvpgvng
    @drvpgvng 4 года назад

    Why is umbrella chronicles and darkside chronicles only on ps now with subscription on PS4.... isn’t having a ps plus account enough ughh

  • @2KOOLURATOOLGaming
    @2KOOLURATOOLGaming 4 года назад +5

    Was anyone else really sad to look at the chat during the PS5 livestream? People were just whining!

    • @Sonicmask
      @Sonicmask 4 года назад

      When people complain that means they actually like it. Look at cod. Everyone hates it but everyone still buys and plays.

    • @cccoops
      @cccoops 4 года назад

      Sonicmask What?

    • @johnmetax4410
      @johnmetax4410 4 года назад

      There were people spamming Gordon Ramsay and Show us Halo Infinite

  • @fulfilledfantasy.
    @fulfilledfantasy. 3 года назад

    No mentioning of Alex Wesker who probably is the true identity of the main resident evil 8 antagonist Mother Miranda?

  • @lilsabin
    @lilsabin 3 года назад

    where is the milla javovich one ?

  • @jonathanyeeweicheang2178
    @jonathanyeeweicheang2178 4 года назад +1

    So could new Chris be a altered human like Clara Redames?

    • @arotheredone
      @arotheredone 4 года назад

      Maybe, we still dont know what was the B.O.W that Carla developed and Ada destroyed while it was on birth

  • @billysaint4981
    @billysaint4981 3 года назад

    What ever happened to revelations?

  • @Raiderlorian93
    @Raiderlorian93 3 года назад +1

    Capcom needs to remake Outbreak

  • @SanAndreasGaming
    @SanAndreasGaming 4 года назад

    Whats happen to Sheva???

  • @hexywesky
    @hexywesky 4 года назад +4

    Do a half hour or 60 minute version of this with everything, I dare you

  • @umarmistri1122
    @umarmistri1122 4 года назад +1

    We need resident evil code Veronica remake

  • @nomadichippie1930
    @nomadichippie1930 4 года назад

    Since I played the games in order Rebecca chambers was my favorite character for the first couple games, I hope they include her in the reboot series

  • @SpaceDoggoWithCheese
    @SpaceDoggoWithCheese 3 года назад

    Wait so boom boom goes zombie virus.. That i got
    But what is the diffrance between the G T and C viruses?

  • @joshuegv-4492
    @joshuegv-4492 4 года назад +1

    Well, who wouldn't want to dodge bullets just for fun?

  • @neoshenlong
    @neoshenlong 3 года назад

    Well this now expanded a few hundred years into the past

  • @Johan-gn3op
    @Johan-gn3op 4 года назад

    I'm pretty sure Wesker injects himself with the virus to survive the Tyrant attack. A subtle difference but still.

  • @MaskDeSmith
    @MaskDeSmith 4 года назад +4

    Even the title screams "we threw this together with no research just to get views off the back of the RE8 announcement". It's no wonder that people think IGN has become a joke.

  • @millerrich9753
    @millerrich9753 3 года назад

    Wat about revelations 1 and 2?

  • @dennyluu1282
    @dennyluu1282 4 года назад +5

    You forgot about the other dlc in RE biohazards

  • @l3goshi
    @l3goshi 4 года назад

    Maybe the connections will be more explained in re8 and maybe it could be umbrella's new name seeing as how we can see their logo in re8 or maybe not

  • @waboytsif6640
    @waboytsif6640 3 года назад

    Thanks

  • @burntpeople
    @burntpeople 3 года назад +1

    me getting confused with all the viruses
    : Wot

  • @seventhwarlord6872
    @seventhwarlord6872 3 года назад

    You guys out resident evil 3 instead of 2

  • @psycho_maniac1389
    @psycho_maniac1389 3 года назад

    Some of you guys have probably heard/read this, some of you might not.
    But take a very very close look at the resident evil “6” logo
    Doesn’t it look like a giraffe getting head from a person?

  • @random_gamer_guy82
    @random_gamer_guy82 4 года назад

    Dear capcom: code veronica remake next

  • @HotSizzleTV_
    @HotSizzleTV_ 4 года назад

    Anyone know if resident evil 8
    is coming out for PlayStation 4

    • @AfroZenin
      @AfroZenin 4 года назад

      Only for next Gen and pc as far as I know