Part 4: The Dangers Of Taking Insulin | A Conversation With Nick Trigili
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Nick Trigili pulls from his personal experience about the very dark side of PEDS and insulin.
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The conversation revolved around drugs in bodybuilding has always been a deep grey area - and one that the media likes to try and expose and villainize the sport. And while the there are good cases on both sides of the drugs and bodybuilding debate... one specific thing has been coming up more recently in conversation - insulin. With the recent deaths of Rich Piana and Dallas McCarver, rumors have spread about the use of insulin playing a part in their deaths. While this hasn't been proven to be true, even athletes have stated that insulin could be a very dangerous drug to use if not handled correctly.
Following up on Nick Trigili's controversial video showcasing how to correctly inject steroids, we pushed further into the kind of blunt honest truth that Nick has been keen on revealing as of late. In part 4 of our interview series, Nick goes in depth about just how dangerous insulin can be. He talks about the misconceptions (both good and bad) and his personal experience using insulin himself.
Is insulin a drug that should be avoided by bodybuilders? Learn the unspoken truths about this controversial drug in the full episode above!
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450mg TRT dose..is your doctor trying to get you up an elephant’s replacement level? 😆
BJGally Yea an elephants level of test....fucking dumbass
Peak Check 450mg of test should get your blood levels to around 3000 nd/dL (30ng/ml) . This is taken from a scientific report on Testosterone levels of African elephant bulls during mating season. “These musth values were the highest serum androgen concentrations: T was between 19 and 40 ng/ml (average 26.10 ng/ml).” So yeah, FUCKING DUMBASS, levels of a elephant at their highest point.
did you know that in the USA ull get 450-500mg of test for trt. and 250-350 in canada :)
you must have high intelligence (sarcasm)
man's body produces 4-7mg of test per day, so 450mg is elephant's level
Lol Nick is like fuck it, you ask me a question I'll give you the answer, no filter at all .
I am natty and i train like im on all the roids. Flex wheeler said he stopped training after he stopped steroid use because he was so use to the steroid pumps that a natural pump was depressing in comparison. That is truly sad
Iron Shaft I don’t blame flex
If you ever decide to get on cycle and come off you'll know what he means. Not trying to be a dick not if your not on cycle you can't train like your on because when your on it's a whole different level of training you able to do. I was natty for 8 years before I got on. I'm not trying to or telling you to get on just saying there is a big difference
William Hopkins Very true
Thats just Flex. He doesnt represent everybody
Iron shaft : your mom is sad!
"Cough "Dana Linn bailey/ "Cough Mike ohearn"
Brad Boisvert remember when she got her blood work and her test levels were almost non existent. Matt porter showed his blood work after he was off completely and his test levels were about 70 which is lower than what a woman’s is supposed to be. If I remember dlbs were about 30 or less which just shows she’s off the gear. You can’t tell me a women with full pecs and like 10% body fat for years now is natural.
Dianabolin Slin on a Daily
I’ve been a type 1 diabetic for 45 years, I got it at the age of 21. DON’T take insulin, if you overdose it can kill you. Having a hypoglycaemic attack is very frightening and makes you feel like S. You don’t need insulin when your pancreas gland is working perfectly. 45 years on I still have all the feelings in my toes I haven’t lost any. My kidneys still work, I haven’t had a heart attack or stroke, all of got is a bit of background retinopathy in one of my eyes which doesn’t need any treatment and is common in someone who’s had diabetes as long as me. Diabetes still dominates everything in my life the treatment of it has to come first, it’s a living nightmare and it’s not going away, everyday is a battle with it. Bodybuilders who take insulin live in the world of extremely STUPID, they are idiots.
TRT with 400mg‘s a week . Gotta keep those levels natural right babe ?
Gotta confuse the testicles babe
I thought he said 450. That is beyond HRT.
Never gets old.
@@claytonbigzby8173 😂
450mg of Test is not a HRT/TRT dose. No ethical Dr would write a script for that dosage as it would most certainly deliver super physiological levels of Free T.
Barry K bingo 450mg is a BB steroid cycle in every sense of the word, I mean look at him FFS. I am sick of these arseholes hiding behind the TRT word to somehow legitimise what they are doing. It sends a bad message.
Barry K maybe for someone who has been abusing steroids for so long and in ungodly amounts. The damage done to his natural test production is to the point where he actually needs a higher does of test just to get his levels back to normal. Real problem is he might have to be on hrt for the rest of his life.....
Jay busa this is not true, have a look at how much lean muscle mass he is still carrying that’s because of a steroid cycle of Testosterone, not TRT dosage, which he is effectively 3-4 times in excess of a high dose TRT. If his testes were permanently shut down which I highly doubt he still wouldn’t need 450mg unless he wanted to continue carrying muscle mass levels that of a bodybuilder, which clearly he does. End of the day who really cares what he does but just stop calling this TRT, it’s abuse of the term.
Sneaky Foz okay i got you....just figured guys like him would need more...dorian yates is on trt he has to be. He still looks good descent shape looks like a guy that hits the gym but nowhere near what he looked like in his hay day
he is using 450mg of test a week as his "trt'' to maintain his 285 pound size, not just to replace his natty test production. sure if he was an average 160 pound guy he may only need 150mg of test a week to maintain his size and keep test levels in the high normal range, 600-700ng/dl. but he needs to be in the 1400ng/dl+ range to maintain the amount of size he is carrying. So its still really just a type of TRT for him, not a steroid cycle dose at all
Give him a proper chair at least, wtf
Out angling it big time lol
As a type 1 diabetic, humalog starts working in 15 mins but lasts 4 hours. For me I actually see it peak again at the 2 hour mark.
I’m on only 60 mg of test a week and it keeps my levels at 550 . Naturally because of a tumor my test was only 120 for years . At 100 mg my test levels were 1200 . I restrained water and felt terrible . My estrogen went through the roof . Less is more for me
@SMTFITNESS right on I started doing sub q injections in my stomach 40mg twice a week . I really like this protocol so far . It converts to estrogen much less
@SMTFITNESS yes the divided doses plus when you inject into fat it absorbs more slowly which in return causes a more stable release . Also you inject with a diabetic needle it’s painless and doesn’t leave scar tissue like it does when you inject into the muscle itself . Try it you’ll thank me later
@SMTFITNESS for sure
He looks like mr incredible in that chair
He actually does nice catch 😄
I want people to realize the truth. No matter what people say about dosages, don't listen. You do not copy other peoples dosages, do your own blood tests. I am a 4th year medical student, and when I was 25 I found out my natural testosterone level was 68. I went to a doctor, and they immediately started me at 1cc 200mg a week, a nurse practitioner started me on it. When I eventually ended up at my permanent endocrinologist, he stated how ridiculous that amount was and eventually at .5cc 100mg I am at the 700 levels. A TRT dose of 400mg, is specifically overkill, not normal levels even if your natural test is shot. You need to have your own situation tailored from blood tests and doctors. Don't risk your life, testosterone will affect your red blood cells that can cause and pose a risk for heart attacks.
Great interview 👍🏻 Love this guy for speaking openly about that whole seen
Fish eye lenses from the side view is dumb
Nick is great, his channel is awesome. Like his honesty, need more like him
Major shade at Mike O'Hearn haha
Thanks Nick for the Honesty I hope you get your health back!
I've always said its easy to be big and its easy to be ripped, but its really hard to be both and that's a pretty good indicator if their both
I work with a guy that's been on 750mg for 2 yrs straight. He's 27. Fat. He honestly told me that one of his favorite carb sources was lays baked potato chips.
Here's the thing about O'Hearn, and I was one that thought he was a fake natty too. There are multiple sites that do the whole 'is this bodybuilder a natty' thing, that say that, based on multiple factors, O'Hearn is in fact natural, albeit an extremely unusual version of one. One was a pic that they pointed to of him at 14, where he was a ripped, solid 175lbs at below 8% bodyfat, which is genetically impossible for most adults, let alone a 14 year old kid. He had freakish muscle genetics at that young age, and showed signs of being a highly unusual Mesomorph. The other things these sites pointed to is that he has a 30 inch waist, and small traps, despite the fact that he does shoulder and trap workouts like a power lifter. If he was on gear, his traps would be as huge as every other major bodybuilder that is on gear that incorporates a ton of heavy lifting. They also pointed out his skin color, that never has the same flushed look as someone on gear. Finally they said he never tested positive for drugs in contests in which drug testing was stringent. It's fascinating, because, while he sure looks like he could be on something, those sites make a very compelling argument that he isn't.
Adam Robinette lol
Adam Robinette 😂
Some gifted teenagers have naturally higher test levels and test sensitivity which may explain certain early freaks like himself. Being over 35 with no drop off in his physique is impossible without TRT and other PEDs
You look way to old to be this stupid
When I was in school, I was taking a men's health class. Good group of guys 30+ ppl. The more we were honest with one another the more we all learned. One of my buddies in this class shared his story using steroids. He started taking steroids when he was a teenager. Today his system is completely out of wack. My buddy is very emotional almost to the point where he has no hope anymore. All mental strength is gone. He's very sensitive. This guy is covered in tattoos and did prison time. If you were to cross paths with him on the street you wouldn't consider him to be...harmless. After class me and a few others would go to McDonalds and have coffee. I tried to re-ignite a fire for this man, but it was always futile. He's been off of steroids for years and this is what he's left with. Be careful folks.
P.S He took steroids because he was insecure.
once insecure always insecure, steroids were never meant to solve all of his own personal issues
He needs TRT, and or DHEA + PREGNANOLONE, NOW, URGENT!!
YES! Finally someone says the truth about “TRT”… 450 mg a week not this 175 mg BS 🎉
Mike o tren
🤣 450mg a week and he's sad about that, he's used to pumping 2000mg a week or more probably
I always get a kick out of dudes in my age bracket (I'm 55), who clearly are on TRT and possibly gear, who strut around the gym, posing and thinking they are the poop... lmfao!!!! These dudes can't do anything athletic except lift weights.
thanks Nick, 4 beiing so open .
High blood pressure and constant heart palpation!!!! You feel out of breath all the time, and obese.
Why would anyone want that?
I’m not against steroids or people who take steroids but I don’t think I’ll ever do any thing (except TRT one day) because it just looks like a nightmare worrying about the side effects, cycling on/off, paying for cycles and PCT, bloodwork, and the health side effects it just doesn’t sound worth it man
DADDY if you actually have a good understanding of biochemistry and how they actually work they can be used safety with virtually no side effects, problem is that most people who use them are straight idiots who have no clue what they are doing and just listen to the dude they get it from who obviously just wants their money.
UtamfShapes Looks at Rich Piana, looks at your comment, laughs
UtamfShapes I agree it just seems like another thing to worry about. I do t bash people who make that life choice, but for me it’s not something I’d want to take on. Kind of like having kids and someone drops their kids off who are nightmares and says “here, babysit mine too”.
DADDY well I'm definitely not encouraging anyone to do so, like anything its your own choice, I just wish in all honesty that there wasn't so much misinformation out cuz that in itself would save plenty of people who go on Bodybuilding forums and get all their advice from those guys.
@@06livefast lol steroids are about the millionth thing that killed rich piana apparently you never watched his videos and how much fast food and ice cream he ate daily along with infinite scoops of his chemical filled PWOs, cocaine, meth, opiates, heroin lol you name it rich did it
450 mgs of test a week, fuck that is a lot. Normal TRT is 1-200 mgs a month.
Look at all that water he's holding. He could cut that weekly dose in half and look 10x better without losing any muscle, just water.
It's not just water, he also holds fat. I'm on 500mg and lm barely bloated.
Thumbs up for [not] calling out Mike O'Hearn.
Well said! Nicks the man!!!!!!
Someone explain why you would take 450mg test and only workout 1 to 2 days a week.....
im pretty sure he was referring to dlb as the female fitness icon claiming natty
6:24 the truth a lot of people are afraid to hear.
Nick Trigili says truth
Who the FOOK is this guy?450mgs for TRT he’s on a constant cycle. I’d love to see his testosterone levels after eight weeks.a bottle testosterone each month👍
Houston Gottie hes a former IFBB pro
450 definitely isn’t trt regardless of who u are but it’s his thing. I take test on my own at 250mg and I’ll slowly bump up here and there and then return to 250 and just alter my diet to grow more if needed
Ryan Degroot I agree no doctor would prescribe you 450 mg
450mg is a basic trt dosage in the USA, contest cycle is between 7000-10000mg... :)
god, stopp the bs u fukin experts...u know shit. THANK YOU
450mg test , 300 Deca , per week and 80mg of Var. only 8 iu of GH a day but I'm seriously considering running another cycle real soon. 😆😂😬
I fucking love this guy.
Wtf 450 weekly trt?????? Thats more then most ifbb when blast lol
HONEST MAN.
This guy has never been in a division 1 football locker room! Those running backs, wide receivers, and Dbs. Are all under 10% body fat and have crazy separation, vascularity and size! Just look at DK Metcalf for example! 100% natural
I take 1.6 or .8 of trt a week via rx ...damn 400 no ty
Brian Frumps I’ve taken 500-750 on my blasts, 125 on my cruise. I can tell a heap of difference
Why dont these place automatically in order?
A doctor prescribed you 450mgs of test a week. Yeah ok
Nick your wrong.I turn 51 in 5 wks,I have never taken anything,just 35yrs of blasting!
You are a fat dude.
Rich Potato The Best g.m.o Veggie then you need extra strength glasses!
SuperNatty Dude you are soft....no where near 10%bf...hop on a cycle 🚲
mikekoz68 when I start winning bodybuilding contest over the next two years,your going to owe me a apology,you have no idea what your talking about.Arnold Classic will be my amatuer debut!
SuperNatty I hope you do....good luck to you👍
Nice ending there, "a coversation with nick trigili" . Liked the talk though
“ I felt like a little girl” translation- I felt like a bitch
Dana linn...??????!!
He's right my actual legit trt doc fucked up and wrote my 10ml for 10 days not 10 weeks and that went on for 12 bottles where I refilled every 10 days
And he was not any sort of quack just an accident but it got past insurance and pharmacy
I'm a type one diabetic and your description of types of insulin is off. It's "long" acting and short or faster acting. The longer acting is for the basal and the faster is used as a bolus. There are variations to this usage but that's basically it. If you are not a diabetic and you're using insulin for supposed gains then you are an idiot and you will end up regretting it.
Yeah I think he was describing N insulin. R and Humalog just peaks at different times with Humalog having a slightly shorter window of effect. Its definitely not out of your system in 15 minutes. That right there is a lie. It can peak 15-30 minutes after taking it and have a slightly lower peak 1-2 hours later depending on whats in your system already and how your liver reacts.
On TRT now,, 450mg per week.. This is not TRT, it's a low cycle. TRT should be around 30 - 50mg which is what an average male produces. Even if you want to be higher functioning surely 100mg is enough.
Thanks doctor
Come on guys if u dont do trt dont act like you know what mg dose is too much. I take 200 wk and my numbers havent gone up at all . im at 319 after 4 months of trt .my doc doubling mine so do your homework .(brosceince)
Apart from him using mike ohearn for his example, being 40 at 10% bodyfat and pulling 600 isn't impressive if you actually use programming 🙄
imlee888 it is @ 250lbs for someone who is no taller then 6'5
Chris Matlock 90% of the IPF and USAPL masters division would disagree
Humalog stays in your system for up to 3 even 4 hours.
Marius Rohloff no... It's a rapid acting insulin it starts it's action within 15 min stays for 1-2 hrs
Yes its rapid acting but it its still acting on your system for 4-5 hours and longer in some people.
Umm it’s not hyperglycemic!
Was he talking about jeff cavalier
And it doesn't spike your blood sugar. What does this guy actually even know about insulin?
He miss quoted what he's trying to say, but he knows what he means 🙄
30? He looks 48
dam I hope there is a part 5,6,7,8. I can watch all day.. good hard truth 👌
450mg?! How you get a script for that?!
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doctors aren't saints they're murderers who do you think wrote all the prescriptions for the opioids that destroyed the country
Yayaya. That you wanna know : D : D : D
Ugh... A lotta stuff this dude is saying about insulin he's hyperglycemic night naturally so his blood sugar drops if he doesn't eat every 2 hours?
C'mon... if you are "hyperglycemic naturally", you would have been dealing with this likely for your whole life then you would know the correct term is "hypo glycemic" and it would likely be like second nature for him to describe it and use the correct terms two people asking about it dot-dot-dot it's nearly 1 a.m. and I don't feel like pointing out each and every incorrect statement he's made about insulin so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe he was nervous with the camera crew around or something, who knows
Not worth it, if you got bad genetics your increase chance of heart disease and cancer goes through the roof, not to mention testicular shrinkage that can be permanent, if you get off gear you'd swell up like a balloon because of low T.
Simeon panda is watching this video for sure
Build the body with proper training and nutrition. Not drugs.
people are so stupid for getting triggered at his TRT dose. at his size a regular 100-200mg a test a week will not be enough to keep the size he is at now. The more muscle mass you have the higher your test levels have to be to keep that muscle. You people clearly have no understanding in PED's TRT or HRT. For an average person under 6 feet and 200 pounds you can keep your mass to 150-200mg but to keep your mass you need higher doses.
Did he say 450 mg a week????
Yo insulin is used to lower blood sugar
Not spike it
450mg is NOT TRT dose
Dude definitely still blasting😂
Insulin drops your blood sugar and humalog peaks in 15 minutes but still stays in your system for 4 hours!
Right. He is a doofus and hasn't read his documentation properly.
It doesnt peak in 15 minutes, genius
TRT dose is 150 to 200mg. NOT 450 for god sake
100-200.
100 makes mine 1500 the next day down to 600 six days out.
A man over 30 doesn’t need over 800
DIANABOL SLIN ON A DAILY
(DANNA LINN BAILEY)
My doc gave me a 350 mg trt
450 mg is trt?
just realized that the camera effect + tiny chair makes him look big as fuck... angled lie a piana
Doesn't work, next video.
don't use steroid period.
Is that everythingapplepro?
Love Nick, he's keeping it real and it has to be said to shut these Natty 10% 18 in arms with a shredded six pack
Stefany Cohen and Mike Ohearn???? Lol
Nahhhh. Can't be them 😉
@@leoscarpoli1nonly lol your right
So ridiculous to risk your life...for what?!?
The Talking Nerdz for Istagram / FB pic lolo, ridiculous right
ain’t fooling me with that spelling mistake lol
Might consider natty cause they have a script like he considers 450 trt
450mg for trt is so bad ass lol
Dana Lin bailey fake natty
450mg is nowhere fucking near a TRT dose LOL
450mg ffs thats a cycle dose ffs
take care of yourself Nick
Nick,nobody asked any of this, at all. Your not really throwing yourself in the realm of McGregor are you??
All credit to Nick ..for saying its how it is ref .OHEARN......of course no way lllolololol
4:08 dana linn bailey
I’m having I hard time believing this guy 🤔 I think he natural- fake roidy!
Mr incredible in real life
I think this dudes addicted to opiates and Xanax. He mentioned "anxiety" he's dealing with.
7:00
450 test a week isn't trt lol you're on with that much
TRT my ass lol that's twice any script you'll ever get
6:46
Go to the countryside and look at some of those old fokes lifting tons of weight at 4am to clean their barns everyday and look shredded and huge just because they've eaten so we'll ever since they were born and do manual labor all their life . Ppl that don't even know what a steroid is ...
And that's just one example , Como down to Eastern Europe and go to any open air gym (we have tons of those for summer ) and look at 15 yo kids that don't even know what a protein shake is but are scared to hell to drink one , but yet their arms look a lot like yours and they are like 6feet2 ...
So yeah, this guy has no fucking idea of what he's talking about .
trt at 450 !!!!!!!!!!! hmmmmmm