Pastors Man Kush, Mr. T on Mama Ida Odinga's comment on churches - The Wicked Edition episode 244

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2022
  • Are Churches becoming too many in Kenya? Should there be a theological threshold to be met before opening a Church? Pastor Man Kush and Apostle Mr. T on #TheWickedEdition for this and more.
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  • @chumbaadams6933
    @chumbaadams6933 2 года назад +197

    lost my job last month it wasnt easy but am sure God is gonna open doors to me and many other youths tryna make it here.. amen

    • @stephenlocho9278
      @stephenlocho9278 2 года назад +7

      Things will work out bro.

    • @JLosific
      @JLosific 2 года назад +9

      King'ori I dare you to Ask Pst T if theyre from the same Offspring with Jaymo ule msee🤔

    • @wambui6048
      @wambui6048 2 года назад +2

      What God cannot do does not exist

    • @Mancho_Hiuhu
      @Mancho_Hiuhu 2 года назад

      Stay strong bro ...God will make way

    • @achiadennis8056
      @achiadennis8056 2 года назад +1

      I've blessed you will have new job soon in the Mighty Name of Jesus

  • @maryannwanjiru402
    @maryannwanjiru402 2 года назад +16

    The womb that carried this man Pastor T is blessed..Very intelligent, God fearing and full of wisdom at his age. May you live long Pastor T and may God continue to ordain and direct your step always 🙏

  • @vincentogallo1210
    @vincentogallo1210 2 года назад +78

    I have never seen a more serious youthful pastor than Pastor T. Teachings are on point 💪

    • @alicemwangi445
      @alicemwangi445 2 года назад +1

      Pst T, keep it up I like the way you are responding with Godly wisdom, may you continue to sour higher in fear of God

    • @romaniajuliet5506
      @romaniajuliet5506 2 года назад

      Read on you own some of the things he preachers are not inline with God's word

    • @HLMM_KE
      @HLMM_KE 2 года назад

      By the way I beleive Kush is just making jokes for populism.

    • @truth7796
      @truth7796 2 года назад

      @@romaniajuliet5506 Tell us those things please

    • @brendakerora1707
      @brendakerora1707 2 года назад

      @@truth7796 following too 😊

  • @directordal544
    @directordal544 2 года назад +186

    UKILETA MR. T KWA SHOW, SI YOU JUST MAKE IT ONE HOUR MAZE🤗, TUKO NA BUNDLES🙏🏾

  • @faithbreezy628
    @faithbreezy628 2 года назад +28

    I have seen Mr.T come from KBC presenter in the gospel show Angaza to a great man of God,full of wisdom and knowledge,God bless you Me.T

  • @janemuriuki4452
    @janemuriuki4452 2 года назад +58

    Whenever I listen to Pastor T. I leave everything and pay attention to his teachings. He is a vessel and a Gem rarely found. God bless Him and increase his wisdom which is already on another level.

    • @kawirajoykenya
      @kawirajoykenya 2 года назад +1

      Sure sure

    • @cathythuo8606
      @cathythuo8606 2 года назад

      You and me both! I love that he adapts his language to his listeners. That's how you win souls to Christ!

    • @perisnjeri1780
      @perisnjeri1780 2 года назад +1

      @@kawirajoykenya 2

    • @perisnjeri1780
      @perisnjeri1780 2 года назад

      @@kawirajoykenya 0oi8u7 n2y

    • @gillianzohnert2323
      @gillianzohnert2323 Год назад

      Yes, wisdom puts out of his mouth

  • @antonywarari3281
    @antonywarari3281 2 года назад +63

    Pastor T 🙌, may God raise many more like you! Shalom.

  • @damarisndanu6655
    @damarisndanu6655 2 года назад +32

    I never get tired of listening to Pastor T.He has wisdom

  • @t-plus177
    @t-plus177 2 года назад +36

    Faith brings what money cannot bring, faith is more important than money. Very important words from Mr. T

    • @collincewire6675
      @collincewire6675 2 года назад +2

      Funny how Africans are brainwashed.. faith is bulshit

    • @Brian-zc3si
      @Brian-zc3si 2 года назад +1

      hahahahaha..you are funny i tell you..

    • @t-plus177
      @t-plus177 2 года назад +1

      @@collincewire6675 nothing like brainwash, Faith is real men, I know one day you'll understand.

    • @moussaokoth5007
      @moussaokoth5007 2 года назад

      Utakula Faith? Nonsense!

    • @phelixonyango6067
      @phelixonyango6067 2 года назад

      @@moussaokoth5007 faith is that thing that pushes you to work hard and have a better future......
      How do you know you'll be great tomorrow.??

  • @stevenadogo3774
    @stevenadogo3774 2 года назад +25

    Pastor T is one bright guy. I wish to meet him some day

  • @gladwelltailor
    @gladwelltailor 2 года назад +21

    Loved the way Pastor T and Pastor Kuria represented the church and answered questions. Great show Dr kingori📖💪🏽😇🙏🏽

  • @kmwangi5
    @kmwangi5 2 года назад +29

    Pastor T : Amen, you are intelligent man of God and also you have a calling. We need more of you to change the destiny of our dear country .

  • @cheruiyotfestus6944
    @cheruiyotfestus6944 2 года назад +51

    Thi duo is a perfect match, they can come up with a gospel radio station where Man Kush does the comedy part of the spiritual warefare and Mr T on the serious and we'll be all covered.
    what a nice show!!

    • @kawirajoykenya
      @kawirajoykenya 2 года назад

      Wisdom👊👊👊🔥🔥

    • @edddelarocka9753
      @edddelarocka9753 2 года назад +1

      There's nothing comedy about the word of God my friend.

  • @starsapphire2544
    @starsapphire2544 2 года назад +55

    Kuna mse anacheka vibaya sana..its not the first time.. Has Kingori instructed the guy to be laughing like that?😂

  • @ericonchiri6825
    @ericonchiri6825 2 года назад +16

    We love to hear from pastor T and man kush...bring him more often

  • @cecymartins4133
    @cecymartins4133 2 года назад +7

    Pastor T is so mature with strong faith walai. He's going places

    • @justinamusyoka4986
      @justinamusyoka4986 2 года назад

      No faith in counterfeit doctrines,thats brainwash. It will take Africa long to realise Africa was the cradle of civilisation,not Europe.

  • @immaculatemwangi6784
    @immaculatemwangi6784 2 года назад +7

    I love pastor T ,he has powerful message Kush I love you so much God bless you guys

  • @ignatiusmayaka6570
    @ignatiusmayaka6570 2 года назад +20

    Man Kush makes the conversation harder by the minute.

  • @evansmutuma909
    @evansmutuma909 2 года назад +31

    a proud catholic who loves MR T,,,,,,,you are a GEM

    • @gabrielnyanga8155
      @gabrielnyanga8155 2 года назад +4

      Should be a proud Christian!

    • @akinyi5368
      @akinyi5368 2 года назад +1

      there's no difference other than the denomination ....we are all Christians

    • @akinyi5368
      @akinyi5368 2 года назад

      brotherman jivunie imanii yako katika Kristu zaidi na zaidi....God bless you

    • @alicemwangi445
      @alicemwangi445 2 года назад

      Pastor T keep it up

  • @robertmahali5891
    @robertmahali5891 2 года назад +41

    This is the team... Pure wisdom from this Gentlemen

  • @simbabosayatv9507
    @simbabosayatv9507 2 года назад +57

    We need Man Kush and etheist together in the house....

  • @jonimohha6204
    @jonimohha6204 2 года назад +34

    Pastor T would vie for president one day

  • @LynnDarc
    @LynnDarc 2 года назад +12

    Christ is for us all and is coming soon let's REPENT and walk in Obedience to God's decrees and Laws. Be blessed

  • @simonnjorogegitau5163
    @simonnjorogegitau5163 2 года назад +63

    Man Kush is one of the reasons why the Church is never taken seriously.

    • @faithbreezy628
      @faithbreezy628 2 года назад +4

      Christianity is not about a religion it's about your faith/relationship with God,you can be saved and not go to church,just know how you communicate with God

    • @reagandissi6846
      @reagandissi6846 2 года назад +1

      True, the guy jokes alot

    • @rileyhigz1
      @rileyhigz1 2 года назад +2

      Church should never b taken serious.it has lied to sooo many.kush ni mtrue

    • @collincewire6675
      @collincewire6675 2 года назад +1

      And it shouldn't be

    • @charitymuiga5209
      @charitymuiga5209 2 года назад

      Absolutely

  • @hillarynjogu2135
    @hillarynjogu2135 2 года назад +24

    If this is a debate of who is better of the two,did you realise we are all parts of one body,but different gifts? The hand can never do what the mouths does

  • @wambokimani682
    @wambokimani682 2 года назад +33

    These two great men, can never get tired of listening to them......they spit facts n great wisdom!!!

  • @nelisasifaofficial
    @nelisasifaofficial 2 года назад +6

    Wisdom unleashed ✅
    Pastor T I can listen to you all day. You ooz nothing but wisdom without fail! May the Lord expand your territory 🙏🏽

  • @mvictor3987
    @mvictor3987 2 года назад +2

    I started the ministry with only 2 members but now we are more than 300 still growing slowly,man kush has said it all with man T, blessed man kush ad man t

  • @mercymumtelvin986
    @mercymumtelvin986 2 года назад +16

    Very insightful show 💞💞..Big up to Pst Mr T and Pst Kuria...kingori big up yourself...

  • @laviniakagonya5163
    @laviniakagonya5163 2 года назад +23

    Pastor T has this kind of wise words....so calm. So relieving to hear him speak

  • @antonywarari3281
    @antonywarari3281 2 года назад +13

    It's a satire, a weekend edition carries such a devine wisdom!

  • @belovedofgod.2517
    @belovedofgod.2517 2 года назад +8

    Wisdom reloaded Apostle Tee and Pastor Tee thumbs up and more grace.

  • @trucksbypaul5867
    @trucksbypaul5867 2 года назад +3

    By now the country knows who we want to listen too , mahali Pastor T yuko views are unedited 💪💪💪

  • @geraldlugz3983
    @geraldlugz3983 2 года назад +2

    Always looking forward to anytime Mr.T would open his mouth 👄 to speak!
    He has never disappointed! Never Once!
    Sober & sound always!

  • @AgnesGeorge3666
    @AgnesGeorge3666 2 года назад +4

    Great guy Mr pastor man kush ..life need easy and laughter ..he can't grow old coz he don't take things hard in his heart .and he forgive quickly his life is beautiful ..only wen you know a clean heart is great ,you will love man kush more ..pastor Tee is my all time eye opener ,he has alot of knowledge and wisdom and he is humble as well.may God bless you both men of God and take you higher we are listening to you both all the time in diaspora but hatuma number zenu tugesupport the ministries..give and don't expect ..God will cater your needs 24/7

  • @evangelistgrace5278
    @evangelistgrace5278 2 года назад +5

    Church of God in Kenya should preach in the right gospel of God in their Altar's of God. I full support my Ida in her comments about the church! We have seen preacher's telling us the way they planting seeds all over the nations!!!!!! Church needs cleansing!

    • @whitneykimberly29
      @whitneykimberly29 2 года назад

      I partiallt support her...naona hata nigerians wamefika huku kama missionaries pia nao...na wanaitisha offerings za madollars

  • @taxmanb3294
    @taxmanb3294 2 года назад +11

    God bless the two servants of God. Dr. K. May God bless your work.

  • @lucywambui7306
    @lucywambui7306 2 года назад +3

    Mr T!never fails. Always delivers!

  • @happeningske
    @happeningske 2 года назад +3

    I love the sound teachings of Pastor T....Man Kush should not attack others in his Faith...is he in a divided Kingdom???..always, Pst. T manages to rise above and deliver Jesus' gopsel with truth and poise. God bless you. Always looking forward to your shows Dr. King'ori!!! Keep it up, stay for another 20years!!!! :D

    • @dekimchannel8515
      @dekimchannel8515 2 года назад +1

      Don't worry madam about man kush....it's because your understanding is low compared to his teachings...I feel sorry for you.

  • @gikonyondishu808
    @gikonyondishu808 2 года назад +14

    Tupee Unedited ya this episode, Man Kush and Mr. T are a vibe

  • @254collins
    @254collins 2 года назад +9

    Mr T, u have me as a new fan, what you said is powerful

    • @justinamusyoka4986
      @justinamusyoka4986 2 года назад

      He said there are those called and those trained pastors. If there is a called man or woman,he should first teach us the name of our creator other than the title,second person name "God and LORD " which are used by all religions referring to different deities.

  • @rosendunge4217
    @rosendunge4217 2 года назад +5

    Waa i do really love ❤ 😍 💖 ❣ 💕 this wise men of God, they're full of wisdom. Dr and Bishop kuria and pastor T mwangi much love ❤ 😍 💖 men..team kambas we love ❤ both of you

  • @vincentjuma7017
    @vincentjuma7017 2 года назад +3

    When I sAw Mr t I knew we shall be wisdominated

  • @joanmakena1607
    @joanmakena1607 2 года назад +6

    Amazing ...Dr 5 , apostle T and man kush....I love the wisdom

  • @andysaharan
    @andysaharan 2 года назад +14

    Mr. T🔥🔥 always kinging with the wisdom when it comes to matters religion

  • @youngpuffy1730
    @youngpuffy1730 2 года назад +10

    This show should be for more than 1 hour😀😀

  • @robaimakungu2810
    @robaimakungu2810 2 года назад +1

    Wow! I love the wisdom bestowed on brother T.More annointing from Almighty.

  • @judiechemu1303
    @judiechemu1303 2 года назад

    Pastor T...May God bless u I love ur teaching n u always put the nail on the head...blessings man of God.

  • @mr_lambistic406
    @mr_lambistic406 2 года назад +6

    A very good question kingori ,, only few people in isreal believe in jesus Christ

  • @ruthnyambura3826
    @ruthnyambura3826 2 года назад +3

    May God be with you servants of the most high

  • @benardouma5102
    @benardouma5102 2 года назад +7

    Kush most of them are opened for business, there are these being broadcasted in some tv channels, the pastor soends half of the day asking for sadaka, and even claiming or rather say demanding that believers paying money to get prophecies. Many churches are rising but they are not really praying

  • @andrixmwema8064
    @andrixmwema8064 2 года назад +7

    Pastor T is my spiritual Dad... I every day follow his preaching

    • @faithombeva7801
      @faithombeva7801 2 года назад

      He also has Bible study from Mon to Fri 8pm and midnight prayers everyday Friday,

    • @lorinablessings1051
      @lorinablessings1051 2 года назад

      Wakenya acheni hizi maneno ya spiritual dad,daughter, mum etc....just call him,pst.t....imetosha

    • @andrixmwema8064
      @andrixmwema8064 2 года назад +1

      @@lorinablessings1051 and what is your problem with them Called spiritual ... Could you be the Angel Michael?
      Kindly Don't give much thought to what is above your concern..

    • @elizabethwanjiku1733
      @elizabethwanjiku1733 2 года назад +1

      @@lorinablessings1051 i remember nilipohamia nai and i joined a certain church after two sundays i got to meet the pastor almost same age with pastor T,, the moment he called me "my daughter" was my last journey imade to that church.. sipendi huo utoto.. am a daughter of the most high

    • @zakkan9474
      @zakkan9474 2 года назад

      Nkt..

  • @peterndwiga234
    @peterndwiga234 2 года назад

    I love the wisdom within pastor tee, more grace pasie and God continue to increase you.

  • @denisireri5184
    @denisireri5184 2 года назад +20

    🤣🤣kingori you are Kenyan Trevor Noah...I am fan of both of you. Si ualike Trevor akuje atese hku maze😂😂😂

  • @sharzmagamu8335
    @sharzmagamu8335 2 года назад +2

    I love their wisdom

  • @achiadennis8056
    @achiadennis8056 2 года назад +6

    They want to bring evil darkness in Kenya but God is with us we will win in the Mighty Name of Jesus Amen

  • @brianstelix8982
    @brianstelix8982 2 года назад +3

    I believe in God so much. Isaiah was a prophet who said to the Lord, oh God, am I am hear, send me for I am Available to go for you.
    Who are always ready to work for God not themselves? The Bible says that, if I find know one is here to go for me, I will raise a man to go for me.
    Let's not let the lord use another generation or another man while we are still available.
    The two Men of God (Mr. T and Mr. ManKush) gave their lives to Him who seats upon the throne and that's why, they will speak in boldness about the way, the truth and the life that is Jesus Christ the Lord.

  • @iannjg
    @iannjg 2 года назад +3

    One of your best episodes Dr.Kingori and Team. Awesome Show.

  • @SilantoA
    @SilantoA 2 года назад +3

    Mama Ida was so right…if you are not trained then make use of your calling under a ministry with trained theologians or this calling must just have its own church?! Tuache ulafi kwa jina la Mungu

  • @francisndungu
    @francisndungu 2 года назад +3

    Pastor T. I would love to hear more from you

  • @teresiamumbi8572
    @teresiamumbi8572 2 года назад +3

    I have learned something from pst T am blessed

  • @okeyokenawino6809
    @okeyokenawino6809 2 года назад +2

    Dr Kingori kindly invite Pastor Johnson Kibali pastor of the Methodist Church Embakasi to talk more on Salvation

  • @user-dw3he6xd5f
    @user-dw3he6xd5f 2 года назад +1

    mr T you are my best pastor i like how you define success

  • @beatricewanjohi568
    @beatricewanjohi568 2 года назад

    Mr T young and brilliant...Kuria ni kuvumuliwa tu!

  • @benzbimmer8288
    @benzbimmer8288 2 года назад +1

    This is what I define as good professional journalism and a touch of comic reality served really well.. nice work mr. King"0ri

  • @duncankairegi8700
    @duncankairegi8700 2 года назад +10

    We need this pastors every time

  • @mercybarmao7193
    @mercybarmao7193 Год назад

    Pastor T ,oozing wisdom ...this man is gifted

  • @gillianzohnert2323
    @gillianzohnert2323 Год назад

    Praying the gift of tongue so I can understand this.

  • @bubba7360
    @bubba7360 2 года назад +1

    Man Kush should be an entertainer, the word of God is no joke, you can't serve two masters and please all. Choose one.

  • @faymumbingugi7391
    @faymumbingugi7391 Год назад

    The two pastors are still my best

  • @joseky254
    @joseky254 2 года назад +2

    That was an educative conversion.👏👏👏👏

  • @johnmarkochieng7742
    @johnmarkochieng7742 2 года назад +7

    The two gentlemen are a vivid example of denominational shackles.

  • @devinahmatoke3136
    @devinahmatoke3136 2 года назад +1

    Pure wisdom.

  • @MichaelMengo
    @MichaelMengo 2 года назад +12

    I came here but the comments are very clear. My main question to those who say the work of God is a calling, what if i decide i was called to be an engineer and build bridges that kill people? We have to have structures to govern and protect the populace

    • @smartonlineworker7324
      @smartonlineworker7324 2 года назад +1

      The main question is "Are you doing it for God?" The word of God says in whatever you do, do it as if you are doing for God.

    • @MichaelMengo
      @MichaelMengo 2 года назад +2

      @@smartonlineworker7324 That is a very straw man argument. There are rules even in nature for a reason to create checks and balances. Most theology school offer scholarships so no excuse is there not to gain an education to lead a church.

    • @evanskyule
      @evanskyule 2 года назад +5

      Spiritual matters can only be understood through the spirit.

    • @Mastermind_007
      @Mastermind_007 2 года назад +4

      "Calling to be engineer"😂 calling of God is about spirituality. Engineer is about learning and teaching.
      So that example cannot be used to measure the calling

    • @gavanamannu6961
      @gavanamannu6961 2 года назад

      And even God gave the commandments as a form of governance. It's like a Constitution . And the book of Proverbs , talks about knowledge.

  • @babaangel7584
    @babaangel7584 2 года назад +1

    Mr T is a young visionary gent

  • @littlelloyd3930
    @littlelloyd3930 2 года назад +40

    This guy, Mr. T is a theological intellectual who can move a religious conversation. Kudos. Mankush can go back to Churchill show.

    • @wanjirukarago9308
      @wanjirukarago9308 2 года назад +1

      True 💯

    • @noeltheliberalmillennial4886
      @noeltheliberalmillennial4886 2 года назад +1

      He is actually the most miseducated person when it comes to “theology”

    • @littlelloyd3930
      @littlelloyd3930 2 года назад +3

      @@noeltheliberalmillennial4886 I am not a theologist but from the conversation above,it's vividly clear who explains the concept well.Such places aren't for comedians! It's like comparing a pilot and a wheelbarrow pusher, indifferent.

    • @NjorogeMathu
      @NjorogeMathu 2 года назад

      Yep, kush is just a noisy hornbill who survives on people stupidity

    • @rileyhigz1
      @rileyhigz1 2 года назад +2

      @@noeltheliberalmillennial4886 😲😲😲

  • @barakapendo6807
    @barakapendo6807 2 года назад +7

    The madvd pause was gold🤣💪🙌

  • @janebjornstrom296
    @janebjornstrom296 2 года назад

    very powerful teachings learning everyday

  • @maureenchepngeno7281
    @maureenchepngeno7281 2 года назад

    Pastor Tee is always speaking out wisdom

  • @jobwangombe7475
    @jobwangombe7475 2 года назад +1

    Mr. Tee you are right God bless you

  • @lukemwangi2524
    @lukemwangi2524 2 года назад +8

    Finally !!! I win👍👍👍👍

  • @annshee7884
    @annshee7884 2 года назад +1

    Hapo kwa Germany is so true!! They know that Depression is their Main Diagnostic!!!

  • @elvoohkorir7239
    @elvoohkorir7239 2 года назад +2

    That band is something else 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @moseskimanimacharia
    @moseskimanimacharia 2 года назад +3

    Doctor king'ori your shows are lit bro

  • @ggman6939
    @ggman6939 2 года назад +1

    Pure wisdom

  • @mosesomwera7881
    @mosesomwera7881 2 года назад

    may GOD bless the servants of GOD 🙏🙏

  • @newtonsimba7930
    @newtonsimba7930 2 года назад

    Great insight men of God.

  • @marychristiansen2990
    @marychristiansen2990 2 года назад

    Both very intelligent in a different manner, kudos en respect

  • @wilsonkidagisa9038
    @wilsonkidagisa9038 2 года назад +15

    I can see the friendship between the two n strong

  • @anthgaks
    @anthgaks 2 года назад

    Pastor T,that's very insightful

  • @lucymwai7645
    @lucymwai7645 2 года назад

    Hapo pastor Mwangi, hujasema vizuri coz ata Africans we are very poor tuna kosa ata shilingi moja ya Panadol. In Africa we are humble coz we don't have saa hii Kenya wetu watu wengi sana wanakufa na njaa na mgojwa.

  • @e.s.t.a.r
    @e.s.t.a.r 2 года назад

    Insightful conversation

  • @waynegatere1931
    @waynegatere1931 2 года назад

    Good pastors. I love you guys❤❤❤

  • @samuelnjoroge6067
    @samuelnjoroge6067 2 года назад +3

    Our constitution has stated correctly there is freedom of worship

  • @margaretwangari9617
    @margaretwangari9617 2 года назад

    Hey! Pst T's way of answering is on another level #professionalism

  • @gracew7460
    @gracew7460 2 года назад +2

    Christianity is not a religion but a relationship.

  • @msaniinguruhsimon5523
    @msaniinguruhsimon5523 2 года назад

    Man kush you have wisdom

  • @monicahcomfort723
    @monicahcomfort723 Месяц назад

    Pastor T God keep you

  • @mefirst7832
    @mefirst7832 2 года назад +1

    Ngapenda hio bendi 🙌🙌

  • @NjorogeMathu
    @NjorogeMathu 2 года назад +5

    I wish Kenyans were so bitter about few number of schools and hospitals per area as they are bitter about regulation of churches. But the other thing is, if we educate our people and give them better jobs, the number of churches will reduce.

    • @rileyhigz1
      @rileyhigz1 2 года назад +1

      😂😁😂😂but even learned people get conned by churches!

    • @NjorogeMathu
      @NjorogeMathu 2 года назад +1

      @@rileyhigz1 we will always have a few stupid people but lack of desperation will eliminate need for church. like i have never prayed since 2015 because money has been able to solve over 99% of my problems

    • @rileyhigz1
      @rileyhigz1 2 года назад

      @@NjorogeMathu coincidentary same 2015 i realized church doesnt add any value in my life nikaacha kwenda!

    • @rileyhigz1
      @rileyhigz1 2 года назад

      @@NjorogeMathu very tru.the only working system in africa is religion due to desperation.economy,political .....doomed

    • @justinamusyoka4986
      @justinamusyoka4986 2 года назад

      But we need to research the truth to restore the black mind,how we lost to this manmade religions and our role since creation.
      Our story was hijacked and hidden.A white Jesus is white lie.