Totally agree with the bomber talk, absolutely need a different game mode And yes, the ta152h is a good turn Boi and I dunno why Americans still don't get it, I litterally teleport on enemy fighters back if they ignore me
Ta 152 is really vulnerable to overshoots due to it keeping energy so well. Those corsairs could've pulled a big sneaky on you if they were a little better
0:51 the length of the wings is meant to reduce induced drag, that's part of why it has such good energy retention. High altitude planes need big wings, but aspect ratio has no direct effect on max altitude or maneuverability at high altitude.
In case of the Ta 152 "high" altitude would mean 12-14k, where it was considerably faster than any (!) ww2 fighter, not even the P47M coming close, the problem is, that 4-6k, where most of the fighting takes place is merely medium alt for the Ta
I did 790kph at 6000m in a straight line with the K-4 I did dive from 7000m though but I chased a b-17 down with 790 in the speedometer without losing speed
I adore the Ta152, it is just good at everything- it can get higher than everyone thanks to its air spawn, it has good speed, dive speed, rip speed, doesn't lock up too much, has good turn rate with flaps, good guns and good energy retention.
@@ahmadnajhan897 Pick fun vehicle combo to play, in my case it's usaually Puma, ju87g and bf109 E-something or panther D and do335 (non premium). Just play, have fun and don't look at sl count, after a while you should have good amount.
Yes yes, the Ta series is the successor of the Fw190 series, Antons-Doras-Tas, Focke Wulf was the company and Kurt Tank was the designer, the Ta is a homage to Mr Tank. just like the bf109 is the me109, just another name for the same product.
Spit the ta 152 was designed for high altitude interceptor because the normal fw 190 and bf 109 couldn't reach the atitlude that the American b29 could reach
OK...Lets translate: "I love playing my interceptor. Strong bombers means other players will play interceptors too, and more players need more exp pinatas." Gaijin: " So we need more xp pinatas and the volunteer motivation to be one."
Acccthhually! The A-5 is one of the if not the best planes tier for tier in the game imo. A total of 4 20 mils and since the buff from god knows when it can turn with spits when you have flaps out. Which you can att any speed. It just shreds the opposition at 4.7....
Great video. i like your videos because post game play commentary allows for a more in depth discussion because the player isnt focusing on the gameplay. Also spitflyers understanding of air combat and the meta of war thunder is expert level... something a player like me can understand ;) keep up the expert commentary ps: g55s is pay to win
Just got this thing and the turn rate is awesome with Combat Flaps. At the BR you get a bunch of people you can club. One of the few German planes I had enjoyment playing! Unfortunately the Ju 288 C spam is so bad that you end up losing a lot of the times... By the way, this plane wasn't too bad being stock while I played it...
Honestly I always thought that the TA was a bootleg to the Dora (FW 190 D13), although I would recommend to use the Dora but you need golden eagles. So just get the TA instead if you can’t afford the Dora that’s my recommendation
I have played hundreds of games in air realistic and have seen all of one game be won/lost because of the airfield being bombed. Whenever bombers win games its because they get a map where ai tanks kill each other, bleeding tickets, and just run endlessly.
I dont have premium, it took me 18 games to spade the spit mk24 (15 to get the performance and gun mods, the last 3 were just for the bombs and rockets). Stock grind isnt too bad tbh
i fly the p51h and i agree, i make the ta turn idont try to energy fight it. Usually i can outturn the ta with flaps and i can outdive and run it if need.
The c3 is for when you cant aim thats why you get thos eextra guns not worth the performance loss its a true to heart bnz though id admit with that engine shes got
@@franz643 "The c3 is for when you cant aim" You got me there, mate. But it has less to do with the extra guns and just I love the Mk 103 and despise the Mk 108.
@@Moonbearonmeth but as long as you keep high alt not mid im talking rb high alt (; it can climb higher than some jets and yes having that high velocity 30mm is nice but ive mastered the h1 low velocity i usually use only 30s no 20s on bombers as long as you shoot it like ground aa its a easy hit and then 20s for fighters with 30s cus fighters lol hope i dont run into you itll be a interesting battle
So a few things, this is gonna be a long comment but please bear with me. 1) what are your GeForce control panel settings? I see your steady 60fps and I'm assuming you aren't using VSYNC cause who uses that lmao. 2) to fix bomber I believe in a lot of things but since everyone won't agree with increasing bomber durability I'd say buff AI gunners again. Fully upgraded gunners only open up reliability at .21km and if we know anything you are long dead by then. Historically gunners were trained to fire from 1km out. They don't have to be snipers but just squirt a little to ward off fighters. (even though they are litterally paper in game right now ever since helicopters dropped with their new tail DMs) 3) I'm gonna introduce a controversial question. Which does not only apply to the planes I mention. Why does the ta152 get an airspawn and the p47 not? In my experience they are more or less the same mind set in flying so why can't a ta152 pilot spawn on the ground like the rest of us? I own both these planes btw and played them extensively.
Nothing wrong with using vsync,it caps fps at 60 and drops to 30 if they fall lower,adaptive vsync is better if you dont want it to fall to 30 but get tearing instead. Im on max graphics 1080p 60 fps using adaptive vsync from Nvidia panel in case it drops,which doesnt happen
I beleive because from my own expierience spitfires have no problems getting to ta altitude and I have never seen a ta out manuever a spit the p47 once at alt is faster from my expierence in the p47 I have 0 issues outrunning and out manuevering tas and once the ta hits below 5000m any american plane will catch you and .50 cal freedom you from 1.2 km away if you do not have the alt advantage in a ta unless your fighting the biggest moron on planet earth your probably going to die just like in the fw 190 but this is my own expierence
Problem with bomber is you fly straight and press space bar a few times, there is no reason to reward nearly non-existant skill with anything from my point of view, just give them there own game mode where you can only research bomber lines and keep them away from a gamemode where the majority wants to fight pvp style
Uhhh...you SURE its the bombers man? Cuz the last 3 times I was on that map nobody go to do shit thanks to the AD4s. It really doesn't take more than a few ground targets popped by AD4s to start a cascade effect where the AI will force a GF victory and even a half ass AD4 pilot can easily get 4-6 right off the bat just diving on the target, a decent one can get nearly a dozen.
You realize that you out stalled a F8F at low alt that dove from heaven? XD either the F8F is so shit, like I knew if was bad but not that bad, or the Ta152 is too OP, which actually is
Spit i don't want to be offensive, but do you have allergies/chronic cold? It sounds like you are struggling to breathe a bit and I'm sorry if that's not the case, i don't mean to mock. I had the same issues, just thought I'd try to find out since I've been wondering for a while.
My throat dries out really easily and I dont drink water or take breaks while talking for 15 mins so it sounds shit after a while. I do get hayfever really easily and have asthma but I dont think it plays a massive role in that. Also I have a massive nose so my voice can suddenly sound really nasal
The flight model on this thing is completely broken. The real machine was much better, it had the same if not better maneuverability that we see in game and at high alt it should be literally twice as fast. Basically, Gaijin should fix it and give Germany a 6.3 fighter.
Dude you have to be on crack, it already has the best maneuvering energy retention out of any prop in the game. I've stalled out spitfires by going into a spiral climb after a hard turn
Im so sick of all the bloody bomber hunters, They literally make bombers completely useless and just a money sink for us bomber mains, no profit what so ever and a massive repair bill, Not to mention that only the Axis gets Air defence fighters, or at least ones that don't cost 25k
@@Henry-uq1hl in what way does it perform better i didnt know you can out turn spits in the c3 thats wild man sure its got a better engine but thats literally it if you need more guns then your aim is off i get 3 to 7 kills a match in that h1 dont believe look at my stat card same name in game as youtube
The ta 152 is a piece of shit in real life. It had fatal flaws almost none of the new features worked on it. It had the fw 190 d9 engine in it. I don't want to go through the bullshit sourrounding this plane.
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Totally agree with the bomber talk, absolutely need a different game mode
And yes, the ta152h is a good turn Boi and I dunno why Americans still don't get it, I litterally teleport on enemy fighters back if they ignore me
It doesn't turn all that way if you dog fight a spitfire you'll probably die it just has UFO energy retention in turns
ive outturned spits before, its magic i swear @@georgegeorge9361
@@theborg6024 hmm that's interesting I never dared to dog fight spitfires still never will, only energy fight that's all
@@georgegeorge9361 you can easily fight a spitfire at high altitude by doing vehicle loops.
@@georgegeorge9361 yeah i also beat a couple of spits in prolonged turnfights. bad pilots maybe?
Ahem.
*coughs violently*
Hmmmmm...
Stop dying
Yeah we all know Doras are the best
George George For UKoctane, Antons are the best...
@@dskpgsoe9008 facts and logic doesn't care about his feeling though
-Ben shakiro or whatever
Ta 152 is really vulnerable to overshoots due to it keeping energy so well. Those corsairs could've pulled a big sneaky on you if they were a little better
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Laughs in Gear Airbrakes
@@spindash64 laughs in knowing what pulling up is
@@Suo_kongque laughs in broken f4u4b that can dogfight anything
@GETEHR WOLF they're dumb
0:51 the length of the wings is meant to reduce induced drag, that's part of why it has such good energy retention. High altitude planes need big wings, but aspect ratio has no direct effect on max altitude or maneuverability at high altitude.
In case of the Ta 152 "high" altitude would mean 12-14k, where it was considerably faster than any (!) ww2 fighter, not even the P47M coming close, the problem is, that 4-6k, where most of the fighting takes place is merely medium alt for the Ta
Btw the tempest mk 2 is SOOOOO Good at diving... dive at a shallow -5 to - 10 degrees and u can get around 800kph
I did 790kph at 6000m in a straight line with the K-4
I did dive from 7000m though but I chased a b-17 down with 790 in the speedometer without losing speed
The best one is def the fw 189. Best lowtier "bomber"
Pretty good video the Ta is pretty TAlented. No bully plz
How can I bully that
8:10 it’s to prevent over reving the engine, If you over rev an engine it can damage so components of it such is piston failure.
Me: (Dives)
Engine: (Ight imma head out)
Welp the best Fw 190 is A-5/U12.
Ta 152 H-1 was based on Fw 190 D-13 as long as I know :)
Yup the A-5/U12 ja probably my recently most played prop, its awesome. The only reason though I play the Ta less is the repair cost
Nah, D13 all the way
I dont like 190 A because of theyr terrible turn and climb, i prefere the 109f
@@davidecarucci1073 Bf109 G2 is great, Fw190s are really unforgiving planes but with enough discipline you can make it work
@@toast2300 i tried the k4 and after 2 games im liking it, i expect the mk108 balistic to be worse
I adore the Ta152, it is just good at everything- it can get higher than everyone thanks to its air spawn, it has good speed, dive speed, rip speed, doesn't lock up too much, has good turn rate with flaps, good guns and good energy retention.
They repair cost is just ridiculous with 30k I just can’t afford it
Yeah, I remember when i got this plane I was broke and couldn't play it haha. Now i dont care, I have almost 5 million
@@melo3814 got tips?
@@ahmadnajhan897 for sl or this plane?
@@melo3814 sl been struggling for a few years now
@@ahmadnajhan897 Pick fun vehicle combo to play, in my case it's usaually Puma, ju87g and bf109 E-something or panther D and do335 (non premium). Just play, have fun and don't look at sl count, after a while you should have good amount.
Yes yes, the Ta series is the successor of the Fw190 series, Antons-Doras-Tas, Focke Wulf was the company and Kurt Tank was the designer, the Ta is a homage to Mr Tank.
just like the bf109 is the me109, just another name for the same product.
I used to dog fight spit fires in this
Spit the ta 152 was designed for high altitude interceptor because the normal fw 190 and bf 109 couldn't reach the atitlude that the American b29 could reach
4:57 look at the enemy team, are assists worth more than kills now?
Probably got some crits on another plane, thats why his score is higher
OK...Lets translate: "I love playing my interceptor. Strong bombers means other players will play interceptors too, and more players need more exp pinatas."
Gaijin: " So we need more xp pinatas and the volunteer motivation to be one."
Yeah that’s not what he said
He said quite the opposite really
I love both ta152's, favourite props in game.
Hey spit_flyer,
Can you do another video on this plane with the new updates in place.??
i died many times because the prop decides to stop midair in the D-13, and you cant make it start again sometimes
Acccthhually! The A-5 is one of the if not the best planes tier for tier in the game imo. A total of 4 20 mils and since the buff from god knows when it can turn with spits when you have flaps out. Which you can att any speed. It just shreds the opposition at 4.7....
Great video. i like your videos because post game play commentary allows for a more in depth discussion because the player isnt focusing on the gameplay. Also spitflyers understanding of air combat and the meta of war thunder is expert level... something a player like me can understand ;)
keep up the expert commentary
ps:
g55s is pay to win
Thanks man
God the way that F4U was flying made me angry.
Just got this thing and the turn rate is awesome with Combat Flaps. At the BR you get a bunch of people you can club. One of the few German planes I had enjoyment playing! Unfortunately the Ju 288 C spam is so bad that you end up losing a lot of the times...
By the way, this plane wasn't too bad being stock while I played it...
And here i am in my he 51 :(
But M1A1 tho :/
Just grind realistic with your He-51, wait... 2 years ago.
Please revisit this since it's battle rating changes. It doesn't change much but not many people know about this amazing plane.
Honestly I always thought that the TA was a bootleg to the Dora (FW 190 D13), although I would recommend to use the Dora but you need golden eagles. So just get the TA instead if you can’t afford the Dora that’s my recommendation
When a supermarine spitfire sees it it turns into a stupidmarine shitfire.
I have played hundreds of games in air realistic and have seen all of one game be won/lost because of the airfield being bombed. Whenever bombers win games its because they get a map where ai tanks kill each other, bleeding tickets, and just run endlessly.
Get two NC.223.3 bombers in a squad and go around. One guy uses 5 bombs for each base, then both use the rest on AF. Win in 5 minutes lol.
@@zrspangle If there is a SINGLE interceptor in the entire game all the bombers are finished.
I dont have premium, it took me 18 games to spade the spit mk24 (15 to get the performance and gun mods, the last 3 were just for the bombs and rockets). Stock grind isnt too bad tbh
I think, because of the way RB are played, the only fw good for me is the A1.
Otherwise, in EC battles, the later versions are better
Best German fighter in my opinion. You can toy with P-51H and stupid Spitfires. Oh and B-17 is just a candy for you in the 5. minute of the match. :D
I'm pretty sure the p-51h is quicker. It could outrun it. And I have been able to beat the Ta-152h in my mk 24 spitfire.
The best fokke wolf is clearly the spitfire LF Mk IX
This is the first fw I have seen with combat flaps lol
demage model of bombers needs to be fixed u hear a lot of stories of surviving ability of b17 and in wt it takes usually 1 pass to take them out
My personal favourite is the d13
The main reason why this thing is really strong is because of it's MER.
A P51 does not catch up as long as you do with landing flaps
i fly the p51h and i agree, i make the ta turn idont try to energy fight it. Usually i can outturn the ta with flaps and i can outdive and run it if need.
@@mails5054 Indeed, the Ta 152 H has an advantage in a stall fight.
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How many time did that Bf109 K-14 clown totally miss his every run?! that's just sad.
G14 or K4?
@@zrspangle Oh man a K-14 would be a wet dream in this game, 6.3 with MW-50, much better than the P51H...
@@JoelLinus k4 already has MW50. There was no K14, only a K6 with 30mm flush in the wings as opposed to gun pods.
Germany has the most fun and interesting planes.
I am not able to do any defensive manuvers my plane locks up and crew passes out
Hey Spit,
can you do a video on the fw-d13. I swear that plane has been nerfed to the fuck house.
Only problem I have with that thing is it's wobly and can't get guns on target that's why I prefer c3 but that one is better no doubt about that
Everything regarding the engine control is automatically controlled by a mechanical computer in the 190
It was indeed based off a Fw 190 Dora.
Now it is in 6.3 competing with early jets
What about the c 3
it’s a amazing that u can play at that ping
ahhh, everyones favorite excuse =p
i wanna see you flying it against jets
Next could you fly out the Lancaster there is on that fly in my home town
I can try but it's garbage and a bomber
@@Spitflyer yeah but its pretty impressive to look at
as a bomber player, that hurts
What does “EC” mean?
It means Enduring Confrontation
I'll be honest, I'd still rather take the C-3 any day of the week.
I like turney bois so it's pretty much down to personal preference
The c3 is for when you cant aim thats why you get thos eextra guns not worth the performance loss its a true to heart bnz though id admit with that engine shes got
@@franz643 "The c3 is for when you cant aim"
You got me there, mate.
But it has less to do with the extra guns and just I love the Mk 103 and despise the Mk 108.
@@Moonbearonmeth but as long as you keep high alt not mid im talking rb high alt (; it can climb higher than some jets and yes having that high velocity 30mm is nice but ive mastered the h1 low velocity i usually use only 30s no 20s on bombers as long as you shoot it like ground aa its a easy hit and then 20s for fighters with 30s cus fighters lol hope i dont run into you itll be a interesting battle
So a few things, this is gonna be a long comment but please bear with me.
1) what are your GeForce control panel settings? I see your steady 60fps and I'm assuming you aren't using VSYNC cause who uses that lmao.
2) to fix bomber I believe in a lot of things but since everyone won't agree with increasing bomber durability I'd say buff AI gunners again. Fully upgraded gunners only open up reliability at .21km and if we know anything you are long dead by then. Historically gunners were trained to fire from 1km out. They don't have to be snipers but just squirt a little to ward off fighters. (even though they are litterally paper in game right now ever since helicopters dropped with their new tail DMs)
3) I'm gonna introduce a controversial question. Which does not only apply to the planes I mention. Why does the ta152 get an airspawn and the p47 not? In my experience they are more or less the same mind set in flying so why can't a ta152 pilot spawn on the ground like the rest of us? I own both these planes btw and played them extensively.
Nothing wrong with using vsync,it caps fps at 60 and drops to 30 if they fall lower,adaptive vsync is better if you dont want it to fall to 30 but get tearing instead. Im on max graphics 1080p 60 fps using adaptive vsync from Nvidia panel in case it drops,which doesnt happen
@@andreipulosul1492 there is slight input lag with VSYNC
I beleive because from my own expierience spitfires have no problems getting to ta altitude and I have never seen a ta out manuever a spit the p47 once at alt is faster from my expierence in the p47 I have 0 issues outrunning and out manuevering tas and once the ta hits below 5000m any american plane will catch you and .50 cal freedom you from 1.2 km away if you do not have the alt advantage in a ta unless your fighting the biggest moron on planet earth your probably going to die just like in the fw 190 but this is my own expierence
@@CRL_One to be fair if you are flying attackers, on most maps they can end a match if no one intercepts them
Problem with bomber is you fly straight and press space bar a few times, there is no reason to reward nearly non-existant skill with anything from my point of view, just give them there own game mode where you can only research bomber lines and keep them away from a gamemode where the majority wants to fight pvp style
Uhhh...you SURE its the bombers man? Cuz the last 3 times I was on that map nobody go to do shit thanks to the AD4s. It really doesn't take more than a few ground targets popped by AD4s to start a cascade effect where the AI will force a GF victory and even a half ass AD4 pilot can easily get 4-6 right off the bat just diving on the target, a decent one can get nearly a dozen.
uuuhhh yeass the outro
Sees video.....ok time to get TA-152
Reeds card, sees insane repair cost......ah.......time to get premium.
all hail the glorious slenderplane!
Love your videos 💙
You realize that you out stalled a F8F at low alt that dove from heaven? XD either the F8F is so shit, like I knew if was bad but not that bad, or the Ta152 is too OP, which actually is
I once stalled an f8f with an i-225 so bad it couldnt pull up from a loop and nailed the ground
The Ta 152 H has the best energy retention in the game because of the wing shape.
You say the ta 152 is op when allies have very good counterparts as well
The MER is just so broken...
Weird lookin D-13
Good day ladies and gents and welcome back to war thunder
What surround headsets do you use?
Audio Technicas baby 😎
The Ta 152 is very pwetty OwO
You just insulted every single Fokkeh
A L T I C H E W D
Hey what are your PC specs?? X
Should be in channel description
@@Spitflyer awesome thanks !
tnx god i chose it im researching it right now :3
TAURUS don’t worry you won’t like it unless you put a shit to. Of money into silver lions to even fly this thing
Spit i don't want to be offensive, but do you have allergies/chronic cold? It sounds like you are struggling to breathe a bit and I'm sorry if that's not the case, i don't mean to mock. I had the same issues, just thought I'd try to find out since I've been wondering for a while.
My throat dries out really easily and I dont drink water or take breaks while talking for 15 mins so it sounds shit after a while. I do get hayfever really easily and have asthma but I dont think it plays a massive role in that.
Also I have a massive nose so my voice can suddenly sound really nasal
@@Spitflyer
>massive nose
Are you of the jew gender
Honestly, why does this thing have an air spawn?
Because it cant climb and needs altitude
Seriously, why does this thing have an airspawn?
Interceptor
It's climb rate is worse than some 4.0s
We need the Fw-190 Zwilling
Change my mind
It's already ingame as a rare premium
nvm I read Bf 109
but no, fake plane
Spit_flyer oof
Senpai noticed me
My B17 is hurting
F4U4B is too expensive to fly
the outwo cwushed my heawt uwu
Hahaha
Tell that to napalm
Napalm will never be happy with Germany. I've been through this several times with him 😂 it's not worth it anymore hahaha
@@Spitflyer he thinks he is an amazing pilot and every time he does it's the plane fault
He he doesn't even realize his stupidity
(Cockpit episode 1)
The flight model on this thing is completely broken. The real machine was much better, it had the same if not better maneuverability that we see in game and at high alt it should be literally twice as fast.
Basically, Gaijin should fix it and give Germany a 6.3 fighter.
yeah fuck you
Dude you have to be on crack, it already has the best maneuvering energy retention out of any prop in the game. I've stalled out spitfires by going into a spiral climb after a hard turn
@@Averagedude2024
I know, the real life machine really was quite an amazing design. It is pretty ridiculous.
@@skylerwilliams1097 if anything, the in game model might be over powered
@@Averagedude2024
The in game plane is definately good and I enjoy flying it, but it doesnt behave like the real plane, thats what I am getting at.
Im so sick of all the bloody bomber hunters, They literally make bombers completely useless and just a money sink for us bomber mains, no profit what so ever and a massive repair bill, Not to mention that only the Axis gets Air defence fighters, or at least ones that don't cost 25k
13:57 Had me wet
Do a venom video
I'd rather not damage myself anymore thanks :p
In short it should be 8.7
I missed the stream
i saw you in a game you where flying the mig 19 :D
i crit u but then a teamate stole my kill lol
Spit, I destroyed your F-100 a few weeks back. Soz bruh :P
C-3 is much better than H-1. Nearly the same performance with much better armament.
take a good look at the stat card, then come back
I dont think he has the ta 152s..
@@franz643 I have both,jackass and in my hands the C-3 performs better
@@Henry-uq1hl in what way does it perform better i didnt know you can out turn spits in the c3 thats wild man sure its got a better engine but thats literally it if you need more guns then your aim is off i get 3 to 7 kills a match in that h1 dont believe look at my stat card same name in game as youtube
i was playing with u u were in a mig 19 it was so cool
Hahaha glad you enjoyed
Focke *
Niene niene niene
If you dont fly with schrage musik you are not playing germans correctly.
The ta 152 is a piece of shit in real life. It had fatal flaws almost none of the new features worked on it. It had the fw 190 d9 engine in it. I don't want to go through the bullshit sourrounding this plane.
C3 better )))
Spit...you need to stop sending waves of imbred ``8 people chasing a b17`` wannabes to my favorite planes...that is all
I mean, on this map they need to die for me to win
yeooow👍👍👍
360p squad
germany is op