Having Jimmy and Emily on talking about textiles. I'd love to see an indepth on what makes a good garmet. Best value for money and what to look for etc etc.
Gloves are totally underrated. Messing up your hands in a bike crash can have a serious impact on your ability to work, whether at a computer or physical labor. Healthy hands in general are underrated.
Best ride ever - in China on my first ever bike tour along the Li river (?) in pouring rain. I was soaked, got angry, and all of a sudden I was in this zone where everything flowed into turning the pedals. I felt like I was the water in the river rushing along with it. Perfection.
The 3D printing of metal parts is almost entirely about making stuff that’s impossible to machine rather than reducing cost. You CAN print cheaply but the resolution required for top quality bicycle parts means that the 3D printing machines cost between £80,000 - £250,000 (depending on how fast you need to print). It’s also a labour intensive thing, there’s tons of work to do to turn them from a ‘plate’ of parts to usable parts.
@@gurinderkular7209 agree, with billionaires kids backing them why bother being financially responsible? Just go all out with rubbish collabs & silly social campaigns.
During lockdown I spent a lot of time cycling around my home city at night and enjoying the eeriness of a city centre totally devoid of life - like if everyone just vanished off the face of the earth and I'd been left behind. Beyond just eerie sensations though, it was amazing to be able to cycle down huge roads with silky smooth surfaces and no traffic whatsoever!
Love that... Been doing it for years... head out after midnight on a warm summers night... you feel like batman cruising around the city in the dark :)
Love your chats, I could listen and watch all day.. So laid back and funny as well. Excellent audio cause you use your microphones well and they are obviously good quality. Tanks Emily for your voice as it’s so warm and contrasts the guy’s so well
About Froome - I am leaning towards different fit "systems" used by the teams, based on team budget. If Sky/Ineos had a system similar to what I have seen Jumbo-Visma use, where a precise jig is used to set up each riders bike....and then Israel had a system which relied on written measurements adjusted with a tape measure, that could easily result in an error. Once the error is ridden for a period of time, and a new saddle is added or handlebar combo, the rider has basically "approved" the fit, if they did not complain...then the mech would measures again at some point and use that for future adjustments. In other words, based on my experience of 5 decades of riding and fiddling with my bike... no mechanic had ever set up my bike just right, in fact I never let mechanics work on my bikes without directly supervising or monitoring their work. I just do not trust anyone more than myself to have the appropriate attention to detail. They may have more skill and knowledge about bikes, but that does not rule out errors or mistakes while wrenching. And I've seen more than my share of mechanics making small errors which they then correct, but which end up creating additional problems (albeit minor to them) down the road.
46:05 I've always watched almost every episode of your podcasts on RUclips because I always liked how the video adds photos and Stills of some of the things that you guys are talking about, because, in all honesty, I have NO idea what you guys are talking about sometimes lol. I downloaded an episode previously when I went on a ride, it did keep me entertained but being used to watching on RUclips made listening a different experience. Now, I always listen to your episodes while working it's on Picture-in-Picture mode.
The function of blame is to hide the truth of a mistake. Every time I hear someone blaming, I think to myself, "What is the truth that is trying to be hidden?"
That sounds all very wise, and it may well be true in many cases, but sometimes the blame is just actually on someone or something else, and there is no truth or mistake to hide.
Thank you for addressing the price of cycling kits. Companies like MA@P and P3dal M@fia charge upwards of 150usd for a simple jersey. I also only buy jerseys when on sale, because regular pricing is outrageous.
What Jimmy says about the Rapha Core range is covered really well in the GCN+ documenatry on Rapha. The owner says exactly the same, that the idea is not to give a lesser quality garment but just to cut back on a few features and design touches to give a lower price point. It's worth a watch if you haven't already. In terms of great rides, I've had a few that have been massively memorable. One was in a brief gap in lockdown rules I went to the Lakes to do the Fred Whitton route by myself. Cresting Wrynose as the sun started to set was pretty special and felt like a big achievement. The other was by pure fluke in Mallorca when I realised that the road down Puig Mayor was just about to be closed for the annual hill climb event (the type with fast cars, not fast Feathers). Descending a road that you know is closed to cars with spectators lining each side was pretty awesome and about as close as I'll ever get to a race-day experience. I'm also unlikely to ever beat my time down that segment again!
I think Rapha has great stuff but you can see that their newer stuff is made to save expenses compared to their older stuff. Their new Brevet jersey has removed the big zippered pocket in the rear and the small one up front at the chest. In another review on their page of their insulated Gilet I read that they removed a layer compared to the older model etc
Emily and Jimmi talking about cycling clothing, pricing and quality could make for a very interesting standalone video. They must have a ton of interesting insights.
Francis revealing that the Australia trip wasn't as enjoyable as I thought was pretty eye-opening - it was the first cycling video I watched (aside from "A Bivvy, a Phone and a Drone" by Josh Reid) in 2021 and pretty much got me into cycling. The initial stages of Francis and Chris just going into the unknown was so enjoyable to watch.
I'm from Australia and have to agree with Francis. I rode Perth to Sydney and it is not a great ride. It has some great moment, but also hour upon hour, day open day of open, flat terrain. I did exactly the same thing and look away from the distance markers because it can do your head in. I had one stretch of 3 days riding 8 - 9 hours a day and averaged less than 9kph due to head winds. There are much better places to do a trip in bike tour in Aus.
Loved going up in the north pennines using the waskerly way during first lockdown, glad i wasnt the only one enjoying themselves on two wheels up there ❤
I fully agree with full-finger gloves on gravel but that's only because I recently had a "slid" with half-finger ones and scraped the hell out of my fingers, the parts outside of the glove that is.
Rapha does have some pretty awesome pieces of kit but I really think theyve been riding on a trendy name as of late(not saying their stuff isnt quality), especially here in colorado where some cyclists have a sense of "holier than thou" because theyre wearing rapha kit. I just cant justify the price when I can walk into pearl izumi and get similar quality things for better prices
Unfortunately, Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag was extremely famous in America. My wife at the time loved that song so much. I was forced to see them in concert twice.
Then maybe I should rephrase my comment… they were extremely famous in the Houston Texas area. You couldn’t turn on the radio without hearing it. And the former mentioned concerts.
Foam rollers -- absolutely essential. I've had a nice full one for some time. Just remembered I need to buy a half roller per instructions from PT. I think a lacrosse ball is better than a tennis ball for spot work but the foam roll is needed for getting just a bit of height and balance off the ground with your back.
I have mixed experience with mitts. On one hand, they help avoiding calluses and whatnot, that appear from directly pressure on the skin while holding the handlebar. On the other hand, it feels like you're not as much in the control of the bike, because there's now something in between your palms and handlebar.
Favourite ride: Moonrakers and Sunseekers 300km audax. An overnight audax starting in Bristol in November at 10.30pm: riding through the night down to Bournemouth then back to Bristol through the dawn and day. Conditions were perfect, the terrain is easy going and it was type 1 fun all the way. Also, when I started running again seriously, I got a sports massage to get a couple of issues dealt with and now manage myself with the foam roller so both are under-rated in my opinion.
Talking about a physio to properly fit a bike… I’m just a causal user (frequent rides, but rarely anything more than an hour long ride), but having a person trained as a physical therapist working at the bike shop to properly fit the purchase is a night and day difference, compared to just taking one off the floor and hopping on.
The EF kit and collaborations are seriously fire especially that Giro Palace Rapha kit! But saying that, I won't be caught buying it or wearing it: most cyclists rocking Rapha in my parts are an unfriendly and stuck up bunch. Good luck with customers like that!
Riding during lockdown was bliss. I rode the new forest every other day, 30-60 miles. Barely any cars, European roads, stunning weather. I was worried for my job at the time, but on that bike all the worry went. I've ridden in many places for many years but those rides were something else.
Foam rollers and similar can be both good and bad. The problem is I’ve found when working with patients is that some people think they have to hurt themselves to make themselves better. That’s not to say that rolling, like other body work, isn’t sometimes uncomfortable. But there is a point where the amount of pressure being used becomes detrimental to what’s trying to be achieved.
Great shortlist of songs Jimmi. I’d also find it hard to choose out of that list! If you haven’t heard already (and i’m sure you’d love them) Textures are back 🤟 Love the podcasts and everything Francis & you have built. Cheers 👋
I finished buying Carhartt when they forced their employees to get completely unnecessary, un-tested, highly questionable medical injections vs losing their jobs. F Carhartt.
Rapha going down.😂 Welcome to the fashion world. Thats what you get when you combine , high fashion with cycling gear. You eventually become yesterday’s skinny jeans. Plus your prices were outrageous. Good riddance.
am unfit and only started cycling at 62, so I prefer a more upright position of a flat bar. Can you do a review of entry level specialized and Trek hybrids please?
Funny thing about the gloves, I always use gloves full finger. on XC bike I'm avoiding pads, but on road I'm using Specialized Body Geometry Sport Gel Long Finger Gloves, and I don't have Specialized bike ;) But they are the best for people with fragile carpal tunnel, and on road bike the pressure on CT is quite high. Only in those gloves I'm able to ride comfortable 3-5h rides .
3D printers if they perfectly work can do a lot of work overnight or over a week and SEEM cheap, but they'd be multi-million costing machines that depreciate say a million a year. So per day of work, figure 3000 to run it, for depreciation alone.
I have bought lots of Rapha stuff over the last 12 years or so. What pieces do I still wear of Rapha? My white s/sleeve top that was bundled with arm warmers. Red l/sleeve jersey, & a white gilet. All among the first purchases I ever made. Everything since has faded or worn out. I don't shop there now. [Oh, & GT shoes X Giro colab. Pricey but the best].
Right before Frances said tubular bells I thought the same thing lol and wear gloves all the time I’ve ripped both palms off sliding across asphalt in the rain very painful skin just dangling off raw bloody exposed nerves
I was at the factory of our local cycling apparel brand and they showed me fabrics used by PNS that they use as well - there are just not so many fabric suppliers, so it is easy to end up using same fabrics. You pay extra for design, brand and service - I had to fit and order my jersey in the factory located in a shady industrial area of eastern european town, not fancy sophisticated shop in one of the most expensive capitals of Europe. As far as I know fabric was the same, quality comparable, I had custom design.
I always wear gloves. A) to protect my hands. B) for what ever reason my grips are always super sticky. It's gross to have to peel your hands off when you stop. and Yes, I've tried to clean the grips, Isopropyl, soap and water, Vinegar and water. nothing helps...
True lockdown story.. I was riding on very quiet narrow country lanes in Sussex,. only car I came across all ride.. came up behind me and beeped me to get out of the way!
I was once on a really lovely drive during lockdown. Only other road user I came across was some bloody cyclist who I had to beep at to get them out the way! 😅
The US needs cars because of cars. If cars didn’t exist, there would be no sprawl and you’d be able to walk everywhere without a 6 lane road and 2 massive parking lots between each place you wanted to go.
@@rob-c. I guess that is where things are different. I love living in the country in the woods away from people and all the hustle bustle. I hate the cities with all the crime and crowds and buildings. It is very noisy, tall building block the sun, very limited green areas. THe US has the large cities like London and I stay FAR away from them.
In the beginning Rapha Classic was the base line for the casual rider. It was “cheap” and good value for money. Now it’s too expensive compared to what you get.
after an injury and gaining some kilos I had to buy new kit. Was able to find some cheap stuff on Amazon that actually worked quite well. You do have to be careful and read the reviews and material though. Even got a pair of bibs that had pockets on them, perfect for the turbo.
Rapha is not "cool" anymore. They were unique when everyone else's clothing made you look like you were an energy drink can. But now there are tons of companies that make great kit that is simple.
1 Song: The Same Deep Water As You (the cure) as it would reflect the eternal desolation and sadness of being stuck in a purgatorial landscape as you cry your existence away, stuck in that one song, as it plays on and on and on... bathed in reverb and desolation... how fitting that song would be...
I was on a Rapha randonnée in the Pyrenees (2017) the day the takeover came through to the support staff on last day of riding. Much distress about the sale (and them losing their jobs). I personally think the quality has been hit and miss since then. I always pay full price and have been generally happy with my investment. I hate to think a restructuring will result in even lower quality or a loss of their superb customer support.
Where I live Rapha is the most visible cycling brand for road cyclists. There are so many people with Rapha gear. Seems crazy that they can't turn a profit.
3D print upfront cost quite high, but cheap to print, but impossible to print in "shimano" volumes. You can't really print anything structural from carbon, cause carbon is composite, there is carbon fiber, there is resin...
Not wearing gloves does my head in... If you're going down thats the first point of contact - and literally shredded hands are one of the most common cycling related injuries.
Dirt is softer than tarmac. I always wear gloves on the road bike. I only wear gloves on wet days or somewhere rocky, never on smooth bikepark trails as I prefer the feel without gloving up.
I've driven from Perth to Adelaide and apart from the few highlights its so incredibly boring and the wind off the southern ocean is relentless. Gloves everytime for me even though ive forgotten them a couple of times.
I'm not an accountant but as it was explained to me the Rapha loss is based on amortised goodwill. Basically the Waltons purchased it for a price greater than the value of the physical assets and Rapha are writing this off over 10 years, this will appear as an expense and is basically what is responsible for the losses since they purchased it but doesn't indicate a loss in brand value.
Carbon fiber is used in 3D printing all the time, they use impregnated carbon filament just like any other plastic filament. You wouldn't 3D print a bike, because it is easier and more time efficient to lay large fabric into a mold. All lot of people seem to have odd ideas about 3D printing, it is used when either the shape is too complicated to mold, machine or you need an approximation of the final product and don't want to wait and spend extra money on machining or molding.
Lockdown 2020 got me seriously back into cycling. Despite cycling every day to work, cycling was merely a means to an end- get to work. Lockdown reminded me of how pleasurable cycling could be. Shame cars had to return. I can remember the moment when there were almost NO cars on the road and then lockdown (UK) was relaxed and suddenly cars were back. Chalk and cheese, so I know what Jimmi is talking about regarding the Pennines. Would love to live in that area,.
Well it was nice to see Jimmi at last weeks Rouler, and yes I did get told about his about his new best mate. Though I think he was still in shock from the experience.
Cycling apparel: if you produce in Europe (as Isadore) and pay employees properly, pay taxes and social insurances, and take a bit care of environment, then you cannot sell a cycling jersey for 50 EUR. That is that simple. But these are costs, which are 100 % alright. Not only profit counts.
Regarding Rapha, that lady is completely right: it's about the psychology of the "expensiveness". But this business model is inherently limited to a relatively small market. If you aim to expand your market, then you have to a have a lower priced product range; but that risks hurting the brand prestige (and the psychological effect of expensiveness) and risks cannibalizing your existing customers (some of them migrating to the lower priced products). Funny that the other guy was so excited about the reversible jersey. No pocket is innovation now?! Some people are such easy target for marketing.
Having Jimmy and Emily on talking about textiles. I'd love to see an indepth on what makes a good garmet. Best value for money and what to look for etc etc.
Gloves are totally underrated. Messing up your hands in a bike crash can have a serious impact on your ability to work, whether at a computer or physical labor. Healthy hands in general are underrated.
Agree, I always ride with full finger gloves for that exact reason
Exactly why I ride with heavy-duty winter gloves in the summer.
True that!
I lost my grip and wrecked when I forgot my gloves. Gloves are underrated!
Gloves always. Also Double wrap your bars. Comfort for fondos and long leisurely rides in the drops or tops. Even with Flat bars I wear gloves.
Best ride ever - in China on my first ever bike tour along the Li river (?) in pouring rain. I was soaked, got angry, and all of a sudden I was in this zone where everything flowed into turning the pedals. I felt like I was the water in the river rushing along with it. Perfection.
The 3D printing of metal parts is almost entirely about making stuff that’s impossible to machine rather than reducing cost. You CAN print cheaply but the resolution required for top quality bicycle parts means that the 3D printing machines cost between £80,000 - £250,000 (depending on how fast you need to print). It’s also a labour intensive thing, there’s tons of work to do to turn them from a ‘plate’ of parts to usable parts.
Everytime Jimmi says "my new best mate" we watch Francis die inside a little bit😢
As someone who has been.in business for 30 years, I could nearly guarantee Raphas loss is just constructive accounting to avoid company tax.
All well and cool but at some point cash flow is going to catch up. But if the investors are willing to pony up the money then all is fine.
More likely they are being hollowed out by finance guys loading them up with debt.
100% 😂
What does you being in business have to do with Rapha's business?
@@gurinderkular7209 agree, with billionaires kids backing them why bother being financially responsible? Just go all out with rubbish collabs & silly social campaigns.
During lockdown I spent a lot of time cycling around my home city at night and enjoying the eeriness of a city centre totally devoid of life - like if everyone just vanished off the face of the earth and I'd been left behind. Beyond just eerie sensations though, it was amazing to be able to cycle down huge roads with silky smooth surfaces and no traffic whatsoever!
Love that... Been doing it for years... head out after midnight on a warm summers night... you feel like batman cruising around the city in the dark :)
Song: Shine on your crazy diamond. 25 mins long and it's Pink Floyd.
Love your chats, I could listen and watch all day.. So laid back and funny as well. Excellent audio cause you use your microphones well and they are obviously good quality. Tanks Emily for your voice as it’s so warm and contrasts the guy’s so well
I love how Emily has become more involved over time in the podcasts. She's great.
About Froome - I am leaning towards different fit "systems" used by the teams, based on team budget. If Sky/Ineos had a system similar to what I have seen Jumbo-Visma use, where a precise jig is used to set up each riders bike....and then Israel had a system which relied on written measurements adjusted with a tape measure, that could easily result in an error. Once the error is ridden for a period of time, and a new saddle is added or handlebar combo, the rider has basically "approved" the fit, if they did not complain...then the mech would measures again at some point and use that for future adjustments.
In other words, based on my experience of 5 decades of riding and fiddling with my bike... no mechanic had ever set up my bike just right, in fact I never let mechanics work on my bikes without directly supervising or monitoring their work. I just do not trust anyone more than myself to have the appropriate attention to detail. They may have more skill and knowledge about bikes, but that does not rule out errors or mistakes while wrenching. And I've seen more than my share of mechanics making small errors which they then correct, but which end up creating additional problems (albeit minor to them) down the road.
49:01 Most of the time, I have music playing in the background whenever; but there's something about quietness too. It's serene
46:05 I've always watched almost every episode of your podcasts on RUclips because I always liked how the video adds photos and Stills of some of the things that you guys are talking about, because, in all honesty, I have NO idea what you guys are talking about sometimes lol.
I downloaded an episode previously when I went on a ride, it did keep me entertained but being used to watching on RUclips made listening a different experience. Now, I always listen to your episodes while working it's on Picture-in-Picture mode.
The function of blame is to hide the truth of a mistake. Every time I hear someone blaming, I think to myself, "What is the truth that is trying to be hidden?"
That sounds all very wise, and it may well be true in many cases, but sometimes the blame is just actually on someone or something else, and there is no truth or mistake to hide.
Thank you for addressing the price of cycling kits. Companies like MA@P and P3dal M@fia charge upwards of 150usd for a simple jersey. I also only buy jerseys when on sale, because regular pricing is outrageous.
Basic Endura is good
What Jimmy says about the Rapha Core range is covered really well in the GCN+ documenatry on Rapha. The owner says exactly the same, that the idea is not to give a lesser quality garment but just to cut back on a few features and design touches to give a lower price point. It's worth a watch if you haven't already.
In terms of great rides, I've had a few that have been massively memorable. One was in a brief gap in lockdown rules I went to the Lakes to do the Fred Whitton route by myself. Cresting Wrynose as the sun started to set was pretty special and felt like a big achievement. The other was by pure fluke in Mallorca when I realised that the road down Puig Mayor was just about to be closed for the annual hill climb event (the type with fast cars, not fast Feathers). Descending a road that you know is closed to cars with spectators lining each side was pretty awesome and about as close as I'll ever get to a race-day experience. I'm also unlikely to ever beat my time down that segment again!
Jimmy, Judith is like my go-to A Perfect Circle song. It just hits in all the right spots.
I think Rapha has great stuff but you can see that their newer stuff is made to save expenses compared to their older stuff. Their new Brevet jersey has removed the big zippered pocket in the rear and the small one up front at the chest. In another review on their page of their insulated Gilet I read that they removed a layer compared to the older model etc
I never figured out why people would pay 200€ for a jersey... You get very good quality for less than half
Froomey needs that good olde Sky/Ineos juice 😂 bike fit is his smallest problem.
Or the purple drink they’re all drinking nowadays
@@okantichrist beetroot?
Great episode this week, really enjoyed it all.
Emily and Jimmi talking about cycling clothing, pricing and quality could make for a very interesting standalone video. They must have a ton of interesting insights.
Francis revealing that the Australia trip wasn't as enjoyable as I thought was pretty eye-opening - it was the first cycling video I watched (aside from "A Bivvy, a Phone and a Drone" by Josh Reid) in 2021 and pretty much got me into cycling. The initial stages of Francis and Chris just going into the unknown was so enjoyable to watch.
I'm from Australia and have to agree with Francis. I rode Perth to Sydney and it is not a great ride. It has some great moment, but also hour upon hour, day open day of open, flat terrain. I did exactly the same thing and look away from the distance markers because it can do your head in. I had one stretch of 3 days riding 8 - 9 hours a day and averaged less than 9kph due to head winds. There are much better places to do a trip in bike tour in Aus.
That one was fun to watch, but I could definitely feel the suffering and monotony of it.
The boys are dripping 😍
Loved going up in the north pennines using the waskerly way during first lockdown, glad i wasnt the only one enjoying themselves on two wheels up there ❤
I fully agree with full-finger gloves on gravel but that's only because I recently had a "slid" with half-finger ones and scraped the hell out of my fingers, the parts outside of the glove that is.
Rapha does have some pretty awesome pieces of kit but I really think theyve been riding on a trendy name as of late(not saying their stuff isnt quality), especially here in colorado where some cyclists have a sense of "holier than thou" because theyre wearing rapha kit. I just cant justify the price when I can walk into pearl izumi and get similar quality things for better prices
Unfortunately, Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag was extremely famous in America. My wife at the time loved that song so much. I was forced to see them in concert twice.
Oh, weird! In that Vice documentary they were in, the band themselves said they didn’t take off in America 😂
Then maybe I should rephrase my comment… they were extremely famous in the Houston Texas area. You couldn’t turn on the radio without hearing it. And the former mentioned concerts.
A few years ago I started wearing Neopro kit. Good price, fits great, feels nice, and doesn't fall apart.
I just got their thermal jacket for $80 - fits pretty snug but the quality seems pretty good. Hopefully it lasts a couple of seasons!
I went and saw Wheatus in a small Dublin gig pub a few years ago it was an amazing show. Very much worth it!
Thanks Jimmy for the suggestions. Now added to playlist and shared
Cycling in lockdown was wonderful … empty roads and sunny days
I have no idea why, but your "Fluff Up of the Week" intro makes me smile every time.
Foam rollers -- absolutely essential. I've had a nice full one for some time. Just remembered I need to buy a half roller per instructions from PT. I think a lacrosse ball is better than a tennis ball for spot work but the foam roll is needed for getting just a bit of height and balance off the ground with your back.
Song: Welcome to the Pleasure Dome by Frankie goes to Hollywood. Bit like Tubular Bells as it has layers.
I have mixed experience with mitts. On one hand, they help avoiding calluses and whatnot, that appear from directly pressure on the skin while holding the handlebar. On the other hand, it feels like you're not as much in the control of the bike, because there's now something in between your palms and handlebar.
I really like Raphas design language, but their stuff is just too expensive for me therefore I am more a AGU kit guy ^^
Design language is boring and dull?
@@sempi8159 simple and straight forward instead of like a desk in the last row of class in school
@@flyt129 do you like apples design language?
@@sempi8159 No, everything too "round" and silver for my taste. I like the early material design versions.
@@flyt129 do you like teslas Design language?
Favourite ride: Moonrakers and Sunseekers 300km audax. An overnight audax starting in Bristol in November at 10.30pm: riding through the night down to Bournemouth then back to Bristol through the dawn and day. Conditions were perfect, the terrain is easy going and it was type 1 fun all the way. Also, when I started running again seriously, I got a sports massage to get a couple of issues dealt with and now manage myself with the foam roller so both are under-rated in my opinion.
Talking about a physio to properly fit a bike… I’m just a causal user (frequent rides, but rarely anything more than an hour long ride), but having a person trained as a physical therapist working at the bike shop to properly fit the purchase is a night and day difference, compared to just taking one off the floor and hopping on.
Really enjoy this podcast format. 👍
The EF kit and collaborations are seriously fire especially that Giro Palace Rapha kit!
But saying that, I won't be caught buying it or wearing it: most cyclists rocking Rapha in my parts are an unfriendly and stuck up bunch. Good luck with customers like that!
Thanks for the mention of Adelaide! Norton summit road
Riding during lockdown was bliss. I rode the new forest every other day, 30-60 miles. Barely any cars, European roads, stunning weather. I was worried for my job at the time, but on that bike all the worry went. I've ridden in many places for many years but those rides were something else.
@Cade Media. Thanks for discussing my foam roller suggestion. Great episode again this week.
Bert!!!! Made me laugh so much, so so very much. Made my day.
And me!
Foam rollers and similar can be both good and bad. The problem is I’ve found when working with patients is that some people think they have to hurt themselves to make themselves better. That’s not to say that rolling, like other body work, isn’t sometimes uncomfortable. But there is a point where the amount of pressure being used becomes detrimental to what’s trying to be achieved.
The cord jacket goes crazy
Any links for Jimmy’s experimental metal pods?
Mitts are utterly under-rated. Protection if you lay it down, especially commuting, a little extra padding.
agree on the gloves, some people don't ride them off-road because it helps them driving the bike in the technical terrain
Great shortlist of songs Jimmi. I’d also find it hard to choose out of that list! If you haven’t heard already (and i’m sure you’d love them) Textures are back 🤟 Love the podcasts and everything Francis & you have built. Cheers 👋
How come you don’t introduce Emily at the beginning? Rude!
I am French and lived 6y in UK One day, during a conversation, someone asked me if I was Welsh. Best compliment ever !
The opposite has happened to me.. on the other hand the French think I'm Belgian
I think I'm going to go back 5yrs and watch the Project USA stories.
I would love to have James on the podcast. Please!
That Death Valley ride, did you do the Whitney Portal descent?
Really digging the Carhartt flannel, Francis
I finished buying Carhartt when they forced their employees to get completely unnecessary, un-tested, highly questionable medical injections vs losing their jobs. F Carhartt.
Fluff up of the week, Jimmy's list of ONE song.
Rapha going down.😂 Welcome to the fashion world. Thats what you get when you combine , high fashion with cycling gear. You eventually become yesterday’s skinny jeans. Plus your prices were outrageous. Good riddance.
am unfit and only started cycling at 62, so I prefer a more upright position of a flat bar. Can you do a review of entry level specialized and Trek hybrids please?
Funny thing about the gloves, I always use gloves full finger. on XC bike I'm avoiding pads, but on road I'm using Specialized Body Geometry Sport Gel Long Finger Gloves, and I don't have Specialized bike ;) But they are the best for people with fragile carpal tunnel, and on road bike the pressure on CT is quite high. Only in those gloves I'm able to ride comfortable 3-5h rides
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3D printers if they perfectly work can do a lot of work overnight or over a week and SEEM cheap, but they'd be multi-million costing machines that depreciate say a million a year. So per day of work, figure 3000 to run it, for depreciation alone.
I have bought lots of Rapha stuff over the last 12 years or so. What pieces do I still wear of Rapha? My white s/sleeve top that was bundled with arm warmers. Red l/sleeve jersey, & a white gilet. All among the first purchases I ever made. Everything since has faded or worn out. I don't shop there now. [Oh, & GT shoes X Giro colab. Pricey but the best].
For Jimmy… how about “Slave” (the live version at Rockefeller Music Hall) from Leprous?
Right before Frances said tubular bells I thought the same thing lol and wear gloves all the time I’ve ripped both palms off sliding across asphalt in the rain very painful skin just dangling off raw bloody exposed nerves
Pez got me back into riding after a chat backstage at an Anastasia concert in Munich.
I've torn up my hand through a pair of gloves during a relatively slow speed crash. Couldn't imagine how bad it would have been without them.
i see most gloves in bike build videos..... not sure if its mostly cause it looks cool....
Tubular Bells - brilliant choice.
I was at the factory of our local cycling apparel brand and they showed me fabrics used by PNS that they use as well - there are just not so many fabric suppliers, so it is easy to end up using same fabrics. You pay extra for design, brand and service - I had to fit and order my jersey in the factory located in a shady industrial area of eastern european town, not fancy sophisticated shop in one of the most expensive capitals of Europe. As far as I know fabric was the same, quality comparable, I had custom design.
I always wear gloves. A) to protect my hands. B) for what ever reason my grips are always super sticky. It's gross to have to peel your hands off when you stop. and Yes, I've tried to clean the grips, Isopropyl, soap and water, Vinegar and water. nothing helps...
True lockdown story.. I was riding on very quiet narrow country lanes in Sussex,. only car I came across all ride.. came up behind me and beeped me to get out of the way!
I was once on a really lovely drive during lockdown. Only other road user I came across was some bloody cyclist who I had to beep at to get them out the way! 😅
@@rob-c. 😂
@@SuperTaylor68 Couldn’t resist 😀
Great music choices Jimmy!
Wheatus was big in the states for that song. It was a big hit here.
Living in the US and living about 15 to 20 miles away from any "town" cars are needed. The good about where I live is empty roads to ride my bike on.
The US needs cars because of cars. If cars didn’t exist, there would be no sprawl and you’d be able to walk everywhere without a 6 lane road and 2 massive parking lots between each place you wanted to go.
@@rob-c. I guess that is where things are different. I love living in the country in the woods away from people and all the hustle bustle. I hate the cities with all the crime and crowds and buildings. It is very noisy, tall building block the sun, very limited green areas. THe US has the large cities like London and I stay FAR away from them.
In the beginning Rapha Classic was the base line for the casual rider. It was “cheap” and good value for money. Now it’s too expensive compared to what you get.
after an injury and gaining some kilos I had to buy new kit. Was able to find some cheap stuff on Amazon that actually worked quite well. You do have to be careful and read the reviews and material though. Even got a pair of bibs that had pockets on them, perfect for the turbo.
Rapha is not "cool" anymore. They were unique when everyone else's clothing made you look like you were an energy drink can. But now there are tons of companies that make great kit that is simple.
Haha. That's the best description of what a traditional cyclist looks like.
1 Song: The Same Deep Water As You (the cure) as it would reflect the eternal desolation and sadness of being stuck in a purgatorial landscape as you cry your existence away, stuck in that one song, as it plays on and on and on... bathed in reverb and desolation... how fitting that song would be...
I was on a Rapha randonnée in the Pyrenees (2017) the day the takeover came through to the support staff on last day of riding. Much distress about the sale (and them losing their jobs). I personally think the quality has been hit and miss since then. I always pay full price and have been generally happy with my investment. I hate to think a restructuring will result in even lower quality or a loss of their superb customer support.
Where I live Rapha is the most visible cycling brand for road cyclists. There are so many people with Rapha gear. Seems crazy that they can't turn a profit.
They are also the most visible round our way. But I have to say, I am Mr Rapha Archive sale. I'm not at all surprised they can't turn a profit.
Being woke costs a lot
@@buzzman4860 What is this even supposed to mean?
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@@jaunedroiteEvery time I’m cycling on the road and see someone wearing Rapha gear, I cringe inside and also feel slightly sorry for them.
3D print upfront cost quite high, but cheap to print, but impossible to print in "shimano" volumes. You can't really print anything structural from carbon, cause carbon is composite, there is carbon fiber, there is resin...
Not wearing gloves does my head in... If you're going down thats the first point of contact - and literally shredded hands are one of the most common cycling related injuries.
They heal though
They don't always heal fully though...
Mathieu van der Poel has entered the chat….
Some day all 3D printers will organize and go on strike!
Dirt is softer than tarmac. I always wear gloves on the road bike. I only wear gloves on wet days or somewhere rocky, never on smooth bikepark trails as I prefer the feel without gloving up.
I've driven from Perth to Adelaide and apart from the few highlights its so incredibly boring and the wind off the southern ocean is relentless. Gloves everytime for me even though ive forgotten them a couple of times.
I'm not an accountant but as it was explained to me the Rapha loss is based on amortised goodwill. Basically the Waltons purchased it for a price greater than the value of the physical assets and Rapha are writing this off over 10 years, this will appear as an expense and is basically what is responsible for the losses since they purchased it but doesn't indicate a loss in brand value.
Carbon fiber is used in 3D printing all the time, they use impregnated carbon filament just like any other plastic filament. You wouldn't 3D print a bike, because it is easier and more time efficient to lay large fabric into a mold. All lot of people seem to have odd ideas about 3D printing, it is used when either the shape is too complicated to mold, machine or you need an approximation of the final product and don't want to wait and spend extra money on machining or molding.
If you want a really cool ride across southern England you should check out the Southern Divide. Lands end to Kent, about 50% off-road/gravel.
Lockdown 2020 got me seriously back into cycling. Despite cycling every day to work, cycling was merely a means to an end- get to work. Lockdown reminded me of how pleasurable cycling could be. Shame cars had to return. I can remember the moment when there were almost NO cars on the road and then lockdown (UK) was relaxed and suddenly cars were back. Chalk and cheese, so I know what Jimmi is talking about regarding the Pennines. Would love to live in that area,.
Totally agree with Francis' car comments 🙏
I’ve got a Quirk. The 3D printed bits make it look pretty special.
Well it was nice to see Jimmi at last weeks Rouler, and yes I did get told about his about his new best mate. Though I think he was still in shock from the experience.
Explosions in the Sky - Your Hand in Mine
It can get me super excited and pumped up, or make me cry like a little baby.
What happened to Attacus, they don't seem to be releasing much? They make the best clothing I've worn in cycling.
He said they got burnout and want to slow it down
@@sempi8159 Fair enough. I hadn't seen it and couldn't find a clear answer. Hopefully come back.
Cycling apparel: if you produce in Europe (as Isadore) and pay employees properly, pay taxes and social insurances, and take a bit care of environment, then you cannot sell a cycling jersey for 50 EUR. That is that simple. But these are costs, which are 100 % alright. Not only profit counts.
I love Jimmy's short list of favorite songs! I have a similar list with most of the same bands but different songs. 😁
It s important wearing Rapha at your postings on instagram.
Regarding Rapha, that lady is completely right: it's about the psychology of the "expensiveness". But this business model is inherently limited to a relatively small market. If you aim to expand your market, then you have to a have a lower priced product range; but that risks hurting the brand prestige (and the psychological effect of expensiveness) and risks cannibalizing your existing customers (some of them migrating to the lower priced products).
Funny that the other guy was so excited about the reversible jersey. No pocket is innovation now?! Some people are such easy target for marketing.
Never been a fan of Rafa, but I picked up some MTB trousers in the sale and they are far better quality and fit compared to the normal MTB brands.