My brother had a Yamaha DT125 1974 and the weight was around a 100kg with 14HP. He drove that in the beginning of the eighties. Very nimble and faster than the Mash Falcone 125 I have now which is around 130kg. So now they are down on power and weighing more. Better brakes and lower fuel consumption that well. This would be very good when it came as a 400cc to 500cc one as well.
Another informative review, it's great that you are also riding and reviewing the 125cc class. The bike does have presence that belies its cc and seems a cracking package for the price, my only concern would be how the finish holds up over a typical winter as reviewers on its bigger brother the T380 have commented that the finish wasn't holding up very well.
@dave: Check out the Missenden Flyer’s review of the Sinnis range, he wasn’t very complementary. The press bike they lent was already rusting if I remember correctly
@@grahamhiggins1 That must have been one of the reviews I watched. He did also review the Sinnis Scrambler a couple of years back on a long term test through the winter and that seemed to hold up quite well. That bike could have come from a different factory or the ACF 50 that Mr Flyer sprayed had been applied early enough and did its job.
Lovely bike, very pleased with mine. There is a drilled metal plate in the airbox which restricts airflow, if you remove it (very easy as it is not fastened in) the bike livens up a bit and pulls better especially on inclines! Even though it is a 125 you could go anywhere on it. As you say it is comfortable and has good road presence, it will happily sit all day at 50-55mph!
@@samcrosby9255 Remove the seat and unscrew the airbox cover. remove the air filter and you will see the plate. Just take it out and replace the air filter!
Great review Mark. For me it would be woefully under-powered and far too low geared even for a 125. It doesn't weigh that much so clearly there is a lot of aerodynamic drag because given its engine power it should achieve at least 65 MPH in windless conditions and approaching 70 downhill. I notice you are not far from the red line even in 6th at 55 mph, which suggests Sinnis were desperate to compensate for poor performance by lowering gear ratios to almost absurd values. Something needs to be done to the front shape, crash bars and other draggy parts of the bike, or better fueling. It's shockingly slow for a liquid cooled 12+ hp bike. Despite the "upgraded" engine I reckon this is even slower than the previous version.
its probably geared really low that's why have to rev its nuts off .. id go up a couple of teeth at front then it should be far less and slightly increase top speed as a bonus
Well if I was looking for a 125 I would certainly consider that one, if you can forget that it's chinese it's good value and you can't beat that red. Great stuff Mark.
That looks like a good bike for the money. I like the extras built into the price, like the crash bars, centre stand and panniers. I daresay like a lot of 125s, if you're servicing it via the dealer it'll be expensive, but nothing there you couldn't do or learn yourself. I'm sure I saw a review of one of these where there was a lot of corrosion at quite a low mileage...can't remember which review...so ACF50 it and give it a fighting chance👍 Thanks for another enjoyable review.
Great review as always Mark. The Sinnis terrain 125 is a no brainer. Cheap to run and maintain, but the Sun at this time of the year is a real killer. It's low intensive and a is a motorcyclist nightmare. Cheers.
Lovely review of yet another bike I've never heard of! Always love your Dorset coast routes too. Haven't been there for a long time but I do love Dorset and the New Forest (used to live in Southampton - within easy reach 😁) - Oh, always mean to say too, I'm exactly the same height as you so that always works well for me!
We don't get these in the States AFAIK - I don't think they'd be ideal anyway with the high speeds on many roads here - but it's still fascinating to learn more about them especially since I grew up in Asia where small bikes like these are everywhere. This one looks like amazing value for money with the included panniers and ample crash protection. I wouldn't buy one here in the US but sounds like they'd be a cracking rental bike if you were in Asia doing a motorcycle tour :)
Good. I cannot see the dash on this video, especially driving into the sun. Also, when riding in slippery conditions, I am a bit doubtful about the C.B.S.?
Actually spoke to someone a couple of weeks ago who has one of these. Can't remember if he has the front crash bars on his bike, but he definitely has a tail box or two to carry his stuff. It should really have a 200cc engine considering its weight and all the gubbins attached to it IMO. I learned to ride on a Honda CG125BR about 25 years ago. IIRC that had about 10-11bhp but weighed only 109kg kerb weight, including a centre stand, so this is very heavy for what it is. But at least this has an analog rev counter, just like the best middleweight adventure bike, the V-Strom 650 :)
Size opens it up to bigger riders who want a cheap around town commuter which is better IMO than a scooter or riding a small 125 that makes you like a mountain on a mole hill.
I realy wanted to love this bike but after owning the older aircooled model and the new one i was bitterly disapointed. I went back to my old honda vara. It was Just to underpowerd and unreliable for me..
Ludicrous crash bars. I find adventure bikes cluttered at the best of time, but on a 125, it's all just too much. With a low-capacity bike you want it as stripped back as it can be to save weight. Only in my opinion. In Thailand 125s tend to be 150/155s. That extra 25 cc makes such a difference. Shame about the learner laws in GB. If I was buying a small runaround here, it would be a Yamaha Exciter 150, then I'd do something about the suspension. The Exciter is an under-bone, weighs next to nothing, and they fly. Another very good review. I have given you the sprocket size for the 390 on the last video.
Hi Mark hope you're well. Nice looking bike and great review however got to disagree about it being a good commuter as those wide panniers would stop you getting through the smallest gaps which is what commuting is all about.If you took the panniers off you would still have the wide pannier holders there. Build quality looks good apart from that horrible weld on the swing arm on the off side of the bike. Great learner bike though.
Hi sidkee ...they are both quite decent quality...both are made in China ...I think for comfort I'd go for the super light as it's a cruiser but as an all rounder the sinnis is very well equipped Me I'd go for the sinnis Cheers mark
Well I've gotta say the Chinese bikes are certainly bringing out some nice lookin bikes in this market and this one has all the protection as standard too and luggage cool .Look out the rest I say if they get it together in the bigger bike market they will certainly shake things up on the price front . Cheers Mark : )
opposite for me. passed the theory and failed the practical. you have a foreign name, so if you came to the UK then it makes sense that you'd struggle adopting our highway code
Bear in mind this bike is not a great performer uphill, according to this guy: He mentions it at about 1 minute in ruclips.net/video/4Hm9Qx6Cl3o/видео.html
Interesting but Oh so dangerous - would a kid like all the toys and whistles for nothing or a serious high quality plodder worth something one day? The marketing campaign loads of Folk are falling foul of destroys truly serious bike manufactures and dealers margins!
I know chinese bikes are changing and coming on, but a 4 few years ago one of the students at college I worked at in automotive donated his 1 year old chinese bike ( make escapes me) and the lecturers tore down his bike and also a 10yr old yamaha ybr 125 which was cosmetically challenged itself. A comparison was made. Both the chassis, forks chain etc and the engine suspension and gearbox were like chocolate, very soft and not built to last. The Yamaha was cosmetically bad but had many years left in it. I am sure one day the chinese will probably overtake the japs like they did the Brits. But i would never but one until convinced. I have a 16yr old Yamaha and its still beautiful and mechanically superb. However parts hard to come by. This is future no spares!,!!!
My brother had a Yamaha DT125 1974 and the weight was around a 100kg with 14HP. He drove that in the beginning of the eighties. Very nimble and faster than the Mash Falcone 125 I have now which is around 130kg. So now they are down on power and weighing more. Better brakes and lower fuel consumption that well. This would be very good when it came as a 400cc to 500cc one as well.
thanks jay
Another informative review, it's great that you are also riding and reviewing the 125cc class. The bike does have presence that belies its cc and seems a cracking package for the price, my only concern would be how the finish holds up over a typical winter as reviewers on its bigger brother the T380 have commented that the finish wasn't holding up very well.
Thanks Dave ...yes I guess you need to keep on top of services and cleaning with these then cheers mark
@dave: Check out the Missenden Flyer’s review of the Sinnis range, he wasn’t very complementary. The press bike they lent was already rusting if I remember correctly
@@grahamhiggins1 That must have been one of the reviews I watched. He did also review the Sinnis Scrambler a couple of years back on a long term test through the winter and that seemed to hold up quite well. That bike could have come from a different factory or the ACF 50 that Mr Flyer sprayed had been applied early enough and did its job.
I've ordered exactly the same one same colour it's arriving next Wednesday 👍
Lovely bike, very pleased with mine. There is a drilled metal plate in the airbox which restricts airflow, if you remove it (very easy as it is not fastened in) the bike livens up a bit and pulls better especially on inclines! Even though it is a 125 you could go anywhere on it. As you say it is comfortable and has good road presence, it will happily sit all day at 50-55mph!
Where is this plate? And is that for the liquid cooled model?
@@samcrosby9255 Remove the seat and unscrew the airbox cover. remove the air filter and you will see the plate. Just take it out and replace the air filter!
Great review Mark. For me it would be woefully under-powered and far too low geared even for a 125. It doesn't weigh that much so clearly there is a lot of aerodynamic drag because given its engine power it should achieve at least 65 MPH in windless conditions and approaching 70 downhill. I notice you are not far from the red line even in 6th at 55 mph, which suggests Sinnis were desperate to compensate for poor performance by lowering gear ratios to almost absurd values. Something needs to be done to the front shape, crash bars and other draggy parts of the bike, or better fueling. It's shockingly slow for a liquid cooled 12+ hp bike. Despite the "upgraded" engine I reckon this is even slower than the previous version.
its probably geared really low that's why have to rev its nuts off .. id go up a couple of teeth at front then it should be far less and slightly increase top speed as a bonus
Well if I was looking for a 125 I would certainly consider that one, if you can forget that it's chinese it's good value and you can't beat that red. Great stuff Mark.
Thanks James yes the red looks great 👍
That looks like a good bike for the money. I like the extras built into the price, like the crash bars, centre stand and panniers. I daresay like a lot of 125s, if you're servicing it via the dealer it'll be expensive, but nothing there you couldn't do or learn yourself. I'm sure I saw a review of one of these where there was a lot of corrosion at quite a low mileage...can't remember which review...so ACF50 it and give it a fighting chance👍
Thanks for another enjoyable review.
Cheers Alan ...these are popular 125 s and they sell lots apparently :)
Great review as always Mark. The Sinnis terrain 125 is a no brainer. Cheap to run and maintain, but the Sun at this time of the year is a real killer. It's low intensive and a is a motorcyclist nightmare. Cheers.
Yes Colin the sun 🌞 was annoying low at times during my ride
Cheers mark
Or Motron X-nord 125 on the continent. Just bought one. As always a good review!
A couple of these were ridden across Mongolia and Teapot One took one around the UK! Mine arrives this week!
Great choice ...yes I saw the teapot vid !
Look at the service intervals oh dear
Think I'd just diy once it's out of warranty ...mainly just a 1 litre oil change and a check over :)
Cheers mark
Lovely review of yet another bike I've never heard of! Always love your Dorset coast routes too. Haven't been there for a long time but I do love Dorset and the New Forest (used to live in Southampton - within easy reach 😁) - Oh, always mean to say too, I'm exactly the same height as you so that always works well for me!
Thanks Daniel 😄
Good review as always Mark :-) Love to see a review of the new Fantic Caballero 125 Rally or the Mash 125 :-)
Thanks ...I'll keep those in mind :)
Would have liked to see a full throttle demonstration, but maybe I did....LOL....Thanks Mark........Sal : )
Looks amazing for a 125
We don't get these in the States AFAIK - I don't think they'd be ideal anyway with the high speeds on many roads here - but it's still fascinating to learn more about them especially since I grew up in Asia where small bikes like these are everywhere. This one looks like amazing value for money with the included panniers and ample crash protection. I wouldn't buy one here in the US but sounds like they'd be a cracking rental bike if you were in Asia doing a motorcycle tour :)
Hi thanks for the comment...yes these sort of bikes are quite popular here in the uk ...with our busy roads and high fuel prices cheers mark
Well Done Mark. Great Cinematography. Well delivered. 👍🏻
Thanks my pleasure ☺️
Great little bike. I'm sure it will fly off the shelves. Nice real world review as ever mark
Thanks Christopher ☺️
Good. I cannot see the dash on this video, especially driving into the sun. Also, when riding in slippery conditions, I am a bit doubtful about the C.B.S.?
Actually spoke to someone a couple of weeks ago who has one of these. Can't remember if he has the front crash bars on his bike, but he definitely has a tail box or two to carry his stuff. It should really have a 200cc engine considering its weight and all the gubbins attached to it IMO.
I learned to ride on a Honda CG125BR about 25 years ago. IIRC that had about 10-11bhp but weighed only 109kg kerb weight, including a centre stand, so this is very heavy for what it is. But at least this has an analog rev counter, just like the best middleweight adventure bike, the V-Strom 650 :)
Thanks Steve 😁
Great vid Mark !
Although i have a feeling that this 125 is a bit too big for it's power...
Thanks James ...yes it's big for sure 😃
Size opens it up to bigger riders who want a cheap around town commuter which is better IMO than a scooter or riding a small 125 that makes you like a mountain on a mole hill.
@@MTBrider26 yes definitely Richard :)
Mark keeps on delivering, cheers! 👍
Thanks my pleasure 😊
I realy wanted to love this bike but after owning the older aircooled model and the new one i was bitterly disapointed. I went back to my old honda vara. It was Just to underpowerd and unreliable for me..
Ludicrous crash bars. I find adventure bikes cluttered at the best of time, but on a 125, it's all just too much. With a low-capacity bike you want it as stripped back as it can be to save weight. Only in my opinion. In Thailand 125s tend to be 150/155s. That extra 25 cc makes such a difference. Shame about the learner laws in GB. If I was buying a small runaround here, it would be a Yamaha Exciter 150, then I'd do something about the suspension. The Exciter is an under-bone, weighs next to nothing, and they fly.
Another very good review.
I have given you the sprocket size for the 390 on the last video.
Yes thanks nik for that info ☺️
Ps 390 is wicked fun 😊👍
Yes thanks nik for that info ☺️
Ps 390 is wicked fun 😊👍
@@markpulling12 I'm glad you like it. They are surprisingly quick, and they really handle.
Hi Mark hope you're well. Nice looking bike and great review however got to disagree about it being a good commuter as those wide panniers would stop you getting through the smallest gaps which is what commuting is all about.If you took the panniers off you would still have the wide pannier holders there. Build quality looks good apart from that horrible weld on the swing arm on the off side of the bike. Great learner bike though.
An excellent review, as always. Questions re. top box - is it removable and will it take a full face helmet? Thanks.
Hi Graham yes it will take a full face helmet but it's not removable quickly
You need to remove bolts from memory
Best wishes mark
Very nice senna 125 bike mark with boxes on bike already cool thanks for super review class mark keep safe 💙👍
Cheers Andrew ☺️
Looks like a small V strom🤣🤣 Great for beginners! Thank you for great and objective review.
Cheers Michael 😃
If your tall for your height😉 would this be a bike for a taller rider quite nice looking too 👍🏻
Mah guy really said red is the fastest colour XD, I agree
Another great vid Mark👍
Cheers Kevin 🙂
Thanks for the video. Which bike in terms of comfort, quality and reliability you recommend the keeway Superflight 125 or the T125 - TERRAIN 2021.
Hi sidkee ...they are both quite decent quality...both are made in China ...I think for comfort I'd go for the super light as it's a cruiser but as an all rounder the sinnis is very well equipped
Me I'd go for the sinnis
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Many thanks Mark. Highly appreciate your kind response.
Well I've gotta say the Chinese bikes are certainly bringing out some nice lookin bikes in this market and this one has all the protection as standard too and luggage cool .Look out the rest I say if they get it together in the bigger bike market they will certainly shake things up on the price front . Cheers Mark : )
Thanks I've ridden lots of Chinese bikes lately and I'm impressed with them all ...they ride well but just need tlc to keep them in shape ;)
@@markpulling12 I reckon that will improve too cos the early Japanese bikes were similar in a lot of ways in the early days : )
Hi Mark - just wondered your thoughts on the government announcing the UK won’t allow any sales of internal combustion motorbikes after 2035 ??
I’ve got a 2016 ksr moto grs 125 and would love to see a review and your opinions on the bike.
Thanks Oliver 😃
greetings mark.
Hi khris ... many thanks
Can't curry another person because the authority made it really hard to pass the test. The theory test
opposite for me. passed the theory and failed the practical. you have a foreign name, so if you came to the UK then it makes sense that you'd struggle adopting our highway code
Bear in mind this bike is not a great performer uphill, according to this guy:
He mentions it at about 1 minute in
ruclips.net/video/4Hm9Qx6Cl3o/видео.html
Interesting but Oh so dangerous - would a kid like all the toys and whistles for nothing or a serious high quality plodder worth something one day? The marketing campaign loads of Folk are falling foul of destroys truly serious bike manufactures and dealers margins!
You couldn't get over an indicated 50mph. Yet you talk of 70.
70 mph is the absolute max of this bike...I was cruising and running in as it's brand new
Cheers mark
I know chinese bikes are changing and coming on, but a 4 few years ago one of the students at college I worked at in automotive donated his 1 year old chinese bike ( make escapes me) and the lecturers tore down his bike and also a 10yr old yamaha ybr 125 which was cosmetically challenged itself. A comparison was made. Both the chassis, forks chain etc and the engine suspension and gearbox were like chocolate, very soft and not built to last. The Yamaha was cosmetically bad but had many years left in it. I am sure one day the chinese will probably overtake the japs like they did the Brits. But i would never but one until convinced. I have a 16yr old Yamaha and its still beautiful and mechanically superb. However parts hard to come by. This is future no spares!,!!!
Thanks for the comment...I wonder what make his bike was ..
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 hi mark I rang the college as its still there. Jialing 125🤷