Bowling for Columbine (2002) - Marilyn Manson Talks About Fear Scene (7/11) | Movieclips
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Marilyn Manson responds to Moore regarding his feelings about being blamed for youth's violent behavior, and discusses his feelings on the President.
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Filmmaker, author, and political activist Michael Moore trains his satirical eye on America's obsession with guns and violence in his third feature-length documentary, which gets its title from a pair of loosely related incidents. On April 20, 1999, shortly before they began their infamous killing spree at Columbine High School in Littleton, CO, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold attended their favorite class, a no-credit bowling course held at a bowling alley near the school, the same bowling alley which would become the scene of a robbery and triple homicide two years later. While pondering these events, Moore humorously considers the link between random violence and the game of ten pins; along the way, Moore calls on the Michigan Militia (and gets to know some of the models for their "Militia Babes" calendar); spends some time with James Nichols, brother of Oklahoma City bombing accomplice Terry Nichols; visits K-Mart's corporate offices with two teenagers injured in the Columbine massacre as they ask the retail chain to stop selling bullets for handguns; investigates the media's role in the American climate of fear and anger; compares crime statistics in the United States with those of Canada (which, despite higher unemployment and a larger number of guns per capita, manages to rack up a small fraction of the homicides committed in the United States), and questions actor and National Rifle Association president Charlton Heston regarding his appearance at a pro-gun rally held in Littleton a few days after the Columbine massacre, and a similar rally in Flint, MI, after a six-year-old boy killed a classmate with a gun he took from his uncle's house. Bowling for Columbine received its first public screening at the 2002 Ann Arbor Film Festival; the film's official premiere took place a few months later at the Cannes Film Festival.
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Cast: Marilyn Manson, Michael Moore
Director: Michael Moore
Producers: Gillian Aldrich, Chris Aldred, Jim Czarnecki, Kurt Engfehr, Kathleen Glynn, Tia Lessin, Michael Moore, Siobhan Oldham, Charlie Siskel, Wolfram Tichy, Rehya Young, Charles Bishop, Meghan O'Hara, Michael Donovan, Jeff Gibbs
Screenwriter: Michael Moore
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"The president was shooting bombs overseas... yet I'm the bad guy because I sing Rock-N-Roll songs"
Unfortunately, that may be the most underrated and most truest thing I've ever heard.
Hell, his "fear and consumption" analogy was also really good, as well.
Pixelcitizen rock and roll songs he sings about anti Christ and dead body's....
paul sturgess /Exile Sturg SC Your argument is??
Art is suppose to express our emotions and lives. Bad things are part of us and our reality so why shouldn't someone be allowed to express it through art? Does it make someone a bad person for showing us these things in a different light? I don't think so. Clearly Marilyn Manson is a good person even if he sings about terrible things. Shakespeare had a lot of death and misery in his plays yet people renown him for his work.
StorFigge 👏👏
StorFigge art? Try bipolar depression
“I wouldn’t say a single word to them I would listen what they have to say and that’s what no one did”
Marilyn Manson - 2002
User9000 everyone listened to them. They had friends, they had each other. I had no friends in high school, but never did I think of hurting innocent people.
@@eh8262 he was answering the question "the people of Columbine" he wasn't saying listen to the shooters of Columbine. Meaning he would listen to the people mourning the tragedy, at this time when this happened people were passing judgment not focusing on listening to what the people who experienced it first hand had to say and acting on their guidance.
@@adamscott2580nah marilyn was talking about listening to the columbine shooters and how they would have not done what they did if they were better understood. He elaborated on this in other interviews and songs as well I think.
@@eh8262 he said kids and community specifically
Can you people stop commenting the same damn comment.
“I wouldn’t say a single word to them… I would listen to what they have to say, and that’s what no one did.”
That’s the single quote that keeps me coming back to this interview over and over again.
It’s still as relevant as today! These people will never learn!
Now that it is public knowledge that Manson is a malignent narcissist this line reminds me of Patrick Bateman in american psycho talking about saving starving children in africa. Manson probably just is a master virtue signaler..
@@MaxMustermann-zr6kf Yes satanists invert reality, its what their whole religion is about
Same dude same. That quote will forever be in my Mind because he was right. Had someone came to sit n listen to them this whole thing could have been avoided an Manson wouldn't of been Blamed for the shooting. Just because Eric n Dylan listened to his music.
That's Politician's Man, instead of taking Blame for their actions they look for someone to blame for their Mistake. And ever since 1999 school shootings sadly have became a new "Norm" and its sad to say that but its true. . Manson I feel like Spoke the Truth about gun control and he's been right this entire time.
Well, this just goes to show how people can be deceiving. I loved M.M. I don't anymore. And everything else he said is pure crap now.
"keep everyone afraid and they'll consume"
More relevant than ever right now
Yeah, Manson is smart af. I never really thought about how fear breeds consumerism until now but it’s so true. In America the very idea of safety has been twisted into a product to be sold to the people.
'merica
Not looking as good now eh?
It’s been the same for centuries. Some are just now noticing it.
He wasn't wrong. And he still ain't.
Damn I never knew how much I liked Marilyn Manson. The guy's so intelligent.
Matthew Langsdale never judge someone because of there looks
Matthew Langsdale ya
james heyer, that's not a nice thing to say.
Cuddly Jon yeah i know but it was funny. For the record, an empty box of cow shit is just an empty box.
james heyer, I love you.
*If you were to talk directly to the kids at Columbine and the people in that community what would you say to them?: "I wouldn't say a single world to them, I would listen to what they have to say, and that's what no one did".
Pretty much the truth in every tragedy and controversial event up to this day.
Is he jesus, my lord...
The worst part of this is: Since then, the violence continued so much that there were actually high school student survivors who publicly talked about the situation. And they weren't just smart about it, like using the right words, they did with such dignity that it litteraly blew my mind ... What was the reaction of many politicians? They're so young, what do they know about life? ... Which I am personnaly translating as "We do not want to hear you, not interested son, sorry".
So ... The words Marylin Manson, what he described ... man it's still true today, so true that it breaks my heart.
It think it's time we listened, and listened hard to what those students have to say ... especially when they actually take the time and gather the necessary dignity to say it in public.
Do what you want with what I just said, it's just my very own personnal opinion on the subject,
sorry man, forgot to put a like ... my bad
@@daedalusdreamjournal5925 As a student myself, I too wish that people would listen to us. A lot of the time, we are assumed to have done something bad ourselves even though we did not do anything. Not enough people realize that their actions also effects us, that every word people not only says about us but does to us hurts. The sad thing, as I noticed as we got older, we just learned to "go with it." Some of us has started to "agree" with the adults even though we really don't. Just so we get a break. I get it though, you want the best for us, but not always is what you THINK is best, is not what seems to even help us. When the students are alone, especially in my school (there is this one place where we can just sit alone and eat lunch), I do know we talk about how screwed we are in our life. We talked about how we don't know how taxes or banks really work and yet some adults criticize us for not knowing, even though no one even tried to teach us. I am eternally grateful to my computer science teacher for giving us an insight into how some of these things work. Yes, there are always those teens who don't care, just as is there are adults who just doesn't care. Sorry for dragging this on, this might have been much for a small comment on agreeing with you, I just wanted to release something that had bothered me and for sure other teens.
@@someoneawesome7855 by the way ... my apologies, I never meant for my message to tell you "Do this or that" ... just hoping it would give you and you comrades, in any gendre, religion; music genre, game favorites ... or any categories that people like to scorn on people ... sorry what I meant was, no matter who you think you are just "Talk hard" ... your voice deservers to be heard ... and I should really shut my yap right now sorry :(
This man is the definition of "dont judge a book by its cover"
He was way ahead of the times.
This comment has aged poorly, since we know now he's a rapist
dude is a rapist
You should look up the news about him.
@@luns486 What about him?
@@xylophoneize he’s apparently extremely abusive
It's frightening to me that this is from 2002, yet 18 years later, it's still as relevant as ever...
The media has used fear tactics to their full extent now
@@Agonized_Soul I'm not sure I know what you mean?
@@TolaAlfrunKikula he means that the government now has taken advantage of school shootings for there own benefit for false flags and more gun control! Using the power of the media to turn it in there favor and own agenda! Just like with 9/11 they conspired it to invade Iraq for there resources and weapon arms deal for profit..
Are you consuming more?
Its almost like we don't learn a damn thing and we're still buying into the fear narrative
How sad the man who got blamed and attacked for this tragedy is the one who seems to have cared the most. Also, by saying he would have listened to those boys instead of talking to/at them makes him already smarter than 90% of our elected government officials.
Me too Legacy, me too.
@F.u.c.k Go.ogl.e yeah like the politicians aren't corrupt in ur 3rd world country
@@irishpanic that's what you took from his/her comment? Lol you missed his/her point.
@@Superbed3 yeah I totally did...or did I? No I did hahaha
Yes very ironic for sure.
Marilyn Manson is way more intelligent and sane than any politician.
I realize my comment aged poorly.
Lol, basically...
Bethany O'Neal THANK YOU
Right!!
And see how he looks like
Heck, just about anyone is smarter and more sane than politicians.
To this day this interview stays with me … that final quote is everything
I love how intellectual and linguistically composed Marilyn Mason is in interviews. Parents use to freak out about his music and the influence he had on the younger generation at the time. He listened when the parents failed to. He is the a prime example of how you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
manson too smart for them to take him down. legends don’t go down
He took himself down like a big boy
Legends don't get taken down by people. They get taken down by cocaine.
Well, his belly went down and also his man boobs.
It's Candy Time Boys and Girls how brilliant of you to make the shocking discovery that everyone does, indeed, get old. you really knocked that one out of the park
Trying too hard to come up with a good sarcasm ^
LOL
One of my favorite lines by Marilyn Manson and I still use it. "I would of said nothing to them, I would of listened and that's what nobody did."
Have*
Michael Vukovic same, to this day it is still so powerful
Well said Marilyn
I watched this movie today and I agree with Marilyn - so true
They're not gonna do that, too inconvenient, too much work, requires people to actually do something out of their comfort zone
marilyn is the only person i will listen to for interviews. he never gets boring,
The only one? Keep that open mind. 🙄
I agree and he has good points here in this argument
he's an extremly intelligent guy. also w pfp.
despite what is going on with manson rn, what he is saying is truth
Nothing is going on with him really, just made up lies.
Today’s woke mob are every bit as hateful and delusional as religious fundamentalists. They use the same tactics, too.
@@ohwellwhateverr Well said.
@@ohwellwhateverr no they aren’t.
@@cristopherborgstede1199 Theyre worse
that last statement I would listen to those at Columbine is powerful
And that right there is what we need, not this silly gun control crap. Just sit down and lisnten to what they have to say, let them let out their pain, and just be there for someone.
Purity knot sad thing is, your culture is based on greed, fear and stupidity. Just listening to the anger and pain caused by the system based on your culture will not change much overall. And before you whine, your culture is european. You didn't assimilate into or kept any significant parts of the cultures and societies that were here before you.
Duane Elliott Oh trust me I agree with what you have to say. I won't agree with you I obvious this nation is driven by fear and hate. Sadly I don't think it'll change at all it'll probably get worse, and that's the scary part
what a perfect answer
.....well...I was going to like your comment but I didn't want to ruin the 666 likes.....
I'm glad Eminem stood up for him during this time
Got a link?
Mark The Way I am -Eminem
That's what made me respect Eminem! Marilyn didn't deserve this blame!
@@Jamie-rr5me Eminem is amazing!! Gifted artist and authentic person.
@@freddiemercury4evr i never gave him a chance until I heard that song.. Ive seen him in a positive light for years now.. Marilyn is also an amazing man.. I adore the hell outta him!!!
"keep everyone afraid, and they'll consume."
relevant then, and it's relevant now.
And nothing new when you think about it. Controlling people through fear while you take their $ goes as far back as the Roman Empire.
While at the same time claiming to care so much about us. With big hearts of gold while a 1 bedroom house is 250k.
Literally my thoughts as I heard this being said.
Still relevant to this day
Days like today i like to come back and listen to what Manson said during this time period and see how society still hasn’t learned.
Same. It’s so unfortunate that it hasn’t.
They just blame the shooter! Even an interview with classmates the shooter came in with scars on his face from self infliction and all they had to say about him was he was weird! Ignored his cry for help and turned away! I’m not codoning his actions but this is and always the root of the problem but everyone still ignores it only thinking of themselves entirely! Almost 2 decades now and what Marylyn Manson said still relevant to this day cuz we haven’t learned
its as if this came out yesterday and is still almost the same.
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr agree with you, my son went through depression at age sixteen, now eighteen the same age of Sal, and his mom and I took turns to help him with doctors, counseling and whatever took to get him back on track. I know that what happened in Uvalde will never be forgiven and forgotten.But I also as a parents I blame Sal's parents accountable for not helping or taking care of their kid, I wished that Sal would have gotten the help that he needed and he would be alive and the other little kids and school teachers as well I perhaps wished that Sal would have been just an average nobody...but an alive nobody. We need to realize that a lots of kids age eighteen are not ready yet to take adult responsibilities it takes more than just a number to change things and behavior, you're an adult when you act like one, a number doesn't change things. After all how many truly important decisions will you trust to an eighteen year old kid?
The only thing to learn from history is that humans learn nothing from history.
Manson made himself look as strange as humanly possible to get free advertising, but he's the most well spoken and polite person in the room
Unless you look a certain way or do a certain thing, you don’t get a voice. He used it to his advantage to spread straight facts. I’ll always love Manson.
He's well spoken in interviews, but he's not always polite. His music and stage presence is a kind of cathartic release, considering he said he'd be a serial killer if he wasn't a musician. But the world doesn't have another serial killer, and he gives people outlets for their anger, a feeling of belonging for outsiders, so it's good! ... But he has peed on people at a concert, his stage persona is kind of crazy.
@Keandre Rasean Nah, his stage presence is just cathartic release. He's got personal problems with Christianity so he takes it out on holy objects on stage instead of on Christians (you know, PEOPLE) What is shock rock genre if not... shocking? And on off stage, if someone has a problem with him, he's fine. He wouldn't want people that have issues with religion taking it out on the people, so do it at a concert.
Having him like that is just the lesser of two evils I'd take any day.
this did not age well
@@nuckinfuts7610 he's abused and sexually assaulted his ex girlfriends (possibly ex wife?)
Notice who's yelling and who's calm.
Negative Zero good spotting, I didn’t even really notice the tone of voice between the two opinions.
Neither.
I side with manson here but because of his statements, not his tone, i could say stuff that aren't factual in a calm way or in screaming it in a rally but the facts will be there no matter how i speak, sure speaking calmly sounds better because its more professional and educated and thats why we should speak that way, but it really doesn't proof your'e right
Luis Ángel, it does, by itself it doesn’t, but in this context, being calm and reasonable in tone makes it easier to listen carefully and observe the person. If Manson was yelling and angry, his layer of confidence would fade away, as he would be obviously hurt. Keeping a calm tone proves a point by making yourself better than them.
To be fair, one was in an outdoor setting, trying to inspire and persuade a crowd with a speech (like Hitler or MLK) and the other is in a small quiet room with like 2 to 3 people. Accusers also tend to be louder than defendants.
When a singer typically seen as evil is more kind, intelligent, and understanding than 80% of people
Comments that aged well.
Ironic
@@playinsincepong1 It's all lies, he has no charges against him just lawsuits and there is no police investigation.
@@livingdeadgirl8463 Investigation started tho
@@playinsincepong1 if you believe these allegation you haven't understand anything of this at all
He talks in such a calming and almost beautiful manner
People were committing crimes and murder way before video games and music were invented
I'm pretty sure music has existed longer than governments, so that definitely isn't possibly true.
+C R
',:^) Great argument, kid.
+Taco Flaco
Murder is a subcategory of crime, but I don't think C R really cares about that, or any other facts.
+C R
murder
n.
The _unlawful_ killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
+C R
That's not semantics. That's the definition of the word murder. You're just too stupid to know that so you wanted to interject with an inane little "Lol stfu".
If you mean killing in general, that's been around since before humans and human morality, so it's completely irrelevant. I'm sure rhythmic finger-tapping has also been around since before humans though, so music is pretty old.
when he's picking his nails at 2:24 and listening to the question, he already has his answer. He doesn't need to think about it. He's simply waiting for Moore to finish talking
@Damon Krause at that point he had probably already heard that question a few times.
Hahah yeah, I noticed that too...I remember seeing this back in the day and thinking “whoa...clearly he’s been waiting for that question for a while now...”
I noticed this same exact thing. He already knew.
This is a scene from a movie. He probably got the questions in advance and was given time to craft a response.
All you read and wear or see and hear on TV is a product...
Words of wisdom.
Never judge a book by its cover.
You're in a dark alleyway. There's a large naked man holding a butcher's knife and covered in blood. What do you do?
@@user-og6hl6lv7p Ask him why this metaphor reaches so much, probably
@@user-og6hl6lv7p , stick to the argument or walk.
@@user-og6hl6lv7p could be a butcher that had his clothes stolen by a creature of the night and got locked out of his butchers shop
It's sad how this man is so smart, and most people don't notice. I'm not a fan of most of his music, but I love how brutally honest he is. Society needs that.
Manson is just being logical.
Americans simply lack that trait.
his final words are very haunting
Nightchair Records how about now
This would be the scary Manson for me. The one that tells it straight up how it is. The albums are a walk in the park.
So is the testimony of Evan Rachel Wood
And he is 100% right. The parents of both boys who shoot up there school rarely talked to their own children. Its documented in on of the journals a shooter wrote.
@@disintegrateallhumans4800 STFU.
Keep everyone afraid and theyll consume... Goodness me
Jon Groves TRUTH
@@davidf2676 With bread and circuses simply replaced with McDonald's, televised sports, and Marvel movies.
More true now than ever
@@SuperCabrito14 Yup the Wuhanvirus / coronavirus has struck everyone because of the media and it's happening!!
consume more single use plastic gloves, masks, hand sanitiser, paint and plastic for social distancing signs, consumerism is the new religion.
20 years passed and nothing changed, especially the way people look at Marilyn Manson: they still keep mistaking his outrageous stage persona with the real life well-spoken and utterly intelligent man.
Didn’t it come out that he was very abusive towards his significant others?
@@phunkyphresh3799 Still waiting for his day in court. Innocent until proven guilty.
@Phunky proven today he is not guilty!
@@phunkyphresh3799 it was a Hoax set up to extort him every girl says they ex was abusive gaslight narcissist toxic and if they are rich good lord
@@ShakakuKoruna420Same here
May 3rd 2023.
Today is the day a first school shooting has occurred in Serbia. I immediately came to this video, remembering Marilyn's final words in this video.
A sick society breeds sick individuals.
He killed it with that last response
Manson cancelled his shows in Colorado out of respect for the victims of Columbine while the NRA still held a rally.
Oh yeah. I read about that.
And? My cousin was killed by a drunk driver in Franklin County less than two miles from my house on 71 North. Next day I still drove to work in a car and came home and had a beer.
@@bad74maverick1 What I was saying is that the media portrays Marilyn Manson as an influence for school shooters, satanism etc etc, yet he is far from that. It shows that a media scapegoat actually has respect for victims of a massacre in comparison to the NRA
@@romangagne5842 I agree with that. I would say you are right completely. But how is the NRA having a gun show going to change anything, anywhere in the state? The NRA paid for those shows months in advance and people wanted to go to them, so because two rogues who have nothing to do with the NRA just like they have nothing to do with Manson, should others not do something they enjoy?
In the CHAZ an 8 year old girl was murdered, a 14 year old murdered and a 16 year old murdered by people in the CHAZ and no one said, lets stop our protest to observed the tragedies of these murders. So why is the NRA held to a different standard?
@@bad74maverick1 you know the answer to that...
It doesn’t fit the narrative.
Never figured Marilyn Manson would make me actually teary eyed and agree with a statement of his. But here we are
Now rock music has all but disappeared in today's culture, and there's more mass shootings and senseless murders than ever.
Not exactly disappeared, but yeah definitely not as popular as it used to be.
It's all rap crap now.
Its all fake now is what it is, fake personas fake mentality, Make America Metal Again
Rock music also came under fire when it was first introduced in the 1950s because parents feared that youth would be totally corrupted by listening to Elvis and other musicians of that genre.
What music did they listen to during The Crusades? What video games was Hitler playing? What movies was Chairman Mao watching? This is poor logic from feeble minds.
1. Boltthrower. 2. Battlefield 1942. 3. The Hunger Games.
.....I laughed so hard...horribly perfect!.....
@@tehf00n You sir or madam deserve a beer.
You make a good point.
I played overeatch with Hitler he sucks
Such a great documentary. Crazy how much of what is brought up is still relevant 15 years later
johnny cash And probably will 15 years later because Americans don't do anything about it.
What's changed? Our system is designed from the ground up to be predatory,and we're the antelope.
Chantz Risse Sadly yes, now the kids in every school everywhere are protesting the gun issue. Again.
Nobody wants to make guns illegal. We want to properly regulate them it's harder for the wrong people to get them. Get out of your ignorance cage and comprehend that gun control isn't about getting rid of guns.
Because literally nothing has changed. Same gun control arguments, redirecting blame and not listening to the students.
I'm extremely thankful not to be American, the country is a complete joke.
Marilyn Manson is a true artist. He uses shock value to get his messages across various mediums and a lot of it relates to the hypocrisy of the world and what is truth. I watched him in many interviews and he is very well spoken, informed, and highly intelligent. Many tend to think he is evil incarnate but he’s just an artist conveying messages of things considered to be taboo. That was his calling. I may not like or support everything he advocates for or says but I do respect him as an intellectual. He was so spot on about Columbine and his response was the best he could ever provide:
“I wouldn’t say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say and that is what no one did.”
"I would listen to what they have to say, and that's what no one did."
More heart and intelligence than all of the "Christians" in America...combined.
Unfortunately a lot of liberals and Democrats today aren’t any better than the Christian Right wing when it comes to responding to mass shootings. They usually have equally stupid responses when it comes to tragedies like this.
this short interview got me through middleschool, i had a group people id never even spoken to picking on me everyday and it sucked
Bobby Williams Hope you doing better, dude
Been there but instead of this interview, I just drowned the bullying with music and movies.
Thank God for Marilyn Manson 😉
Kevin Shaddler that is horrible, I'm so sorry you had to go thru that everyday. I hope you are in a better situation now and that those people know what they did and how wrong it was.
There's bullies in every school but American schools seem particularly scary. They seem to favour sports types and "jocks" over artistic people, here in Australia it's almost the complete opposite, if you're "arty" or play in a band you're far more likely to be one of the popular kids. If Kurt Cobain had gone to school in Sydney he wouldn't have had anything to sing about, LOL
Manson is in complete control over that interview lol just look at his body language.
Yeah, "hey Michael Moore suck my nuts"
@@shaunpearson7905 are you forgetting that Michael was on his side? basically after the theory of fear and consumption Manson presented to him, the whole documentary focused on that.
@Shion Yeah, Shion's right, it seems like you haven't seen the documentary if you think there's was anything adversarial between Moore and Manson.
Well he’s a lot more interesting and attractive than that tubby gnome Michael moore
Typically cristian satanist non argument
I've met him twice and he was the nicest, humblest guy. Once when he was still a florida boy and once when he was a millionaire in hollywood. Still the same dude.
One cannot be stupid and stay relevant for as many years as he has. He has been through so much controversy. He always rises above it because he is a good person with a wonderful and intellectual brain. More power to Marilyn.
Um have you seen Joe Biden lately? lol You stay "relevant" and in positions of power based on how evil or corrupt you are. Not how smart you are.
Yes!
Isn't he being charged with pedophilia
@@blobcity3591 I have no idea. Probably.
@@blobcity3591No
WHEN MARILYN MANSON HAS HIS SHIT MORE TOGETHER THAN 99% OF AMERICA
bob jones not saying much for Manson america has a lower education rateing then Iraq during the bombings
wow lets not go that far man.
paul sturgess /Exile Sturg SC you mushy brain. Go away.
Mansons aspects and point of view is standard in germany.
😬😬😬
I’m having troubles with trying to consume the amount of intelligence there is in the line “I wouldn’t say a word to them. I would listen to what they have to say and that’s what no one did”
Damn Marilyn. Respect to this guy
@Bingus McDrangus It’s exactly because of that that people should listen to them. It doesn’t mean that if someone isn’t in the right state of mind that people shouldn’t listen to them. I’m not saying we should agree with them, not at all. Just listening to what they have to say might help people understand why they did what they did. The same thing happens with a lot of criminals.
People need a scapegoat because no one wants to be held accountable.
Ultimate irony: Those two Columbine shooters weren't even fans of Marilyn Manson..........and for that matter, nor were they in the "Trenchcoat Mafia"
That's 100% true, according to news outlets, but they picked out a dude who looks scary. And he does look scary. You have to look at that truth, too. He wouldn't have been famous to the teens, that are still children who can't think for themselves. They want to make the people who will scare the crap out of their parents to be famous and someone who can use visual artistry in their concerts that emulate Hitler. Manson was still using murderers in his band to use as stage names. He's not someone I want to look up to, either. Just because he sounds intelligent, doesn't mean that he is.
Been on a Manson kick all day. He's still one of the most articulate musicians/artists when it comes to defending his art and views on Contemporary America. While Moore's documentaries have become somewhat questionable and cliché as far as the liberal agenda is concerned, Manson's words here still ring true, almost 20 years after Columbine.
He seems an extreme personality that got into a bad place. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Brian Warner is a very intelligent man. He is still alive. He keeps his personal life low key he is educated.
ram_man rock
Educated he's not
Educated he is.
He's very educated
Karen Holland the dude has a 185 IQ.
..."he is still alive" made me laugh...the Antichrist never dies....
"I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did." Still gives me chills.
The devil doesn't have a tail and horns. He wears a suit and tie.
Logically you can argue anyone you don't like, don't understand or are afraid of is the devil yet when someone really is a bad person if you like them "they made a mistake" or "its not their fault". You're just proving whats marilyn has said 🤦🏻♀️
_Random_ O.O I take everyone’s faults into consideration but it’s not my job to judge anyone anyways that’s Gods job
@@stevenfely8498 then why are you judging him?
_Random_ O.O this is a verse from a country song. Watching this just reminded me of it
Marilyn Manson, got me through my darkest times, I respect him even more after watching this. I mean I knew he was smart but damn he is so relate able and such a genuine nice person.
Michael Moore: If you were to talk directly to the kids at Columbine or the people in that community, what would you say to them if they were here right now?
Marylin Manson: I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say, and that's what no one did.
Seems like no one has listened since then or ever will listen...
*the concerned father at the podium spoke like a true politician: forgetting facts and reason and just cutting to the deep-seated fear and paranoia in most common people and exploiting it without regard to truth or sense merely for his own agenda*
i love how this shows Manson boiled down to the human he truly is. Beyond his music, beyond the persona he exudes, and even beyond everyones (whether they be fans or haters) expectations of him. He is a down to earth human, and he can think for himself and not have the media or government tell him what hes supposed to be thinking. He sees through all that bullshit and is so easily able to explain how and why most of america are puppets to the control that both factions have over us. And the last thing he said, "I wouldnt say a thing, Id listen to them." It just shows that he knows what the true vaccine was to quell the rage in those young mens hearts. Even today in this world we are so quick to hate those who are unique and themselves....we are so willing to let history repeat itself by only accepting the same carbon copied cloned sheep into our herd instead of look to those who are different and try to understand and accept them for who they are... Kind of why I dont see him as some satanist rock star whos trying to pull kids to the dark side......I just see him as an intellectual, doing what he loves to do, and not giving a damn what anyone thinks or says about him. Hes definitely living the real dream, and i very much respect him for it. I wish I had that kind of courage.
I don't understand why people don't realize musicians are characters. Many of mansons records are "concept albums" they aren't real life. They're a story like a book or a movie.
would it be ironic or an oxymoron to say "Amen" to your comment, or should I just say, "I agree."
Bottom line what you wrote was WELL SAID - bottom line!
@@wonton3338 lmao. Thats a good question honestly. Thank u for the compliment
Gives me chills. Such an intelligent, well-spoken man.
Marilyn Manson says one of the most truest things you'll ever hear. I admire this man. He said one of the most realist things about the columbine incident. Gave me goosebumps and chills on how real he spoke about it. No one listened to them kids when they had something to say. It's so sad and heartbreaking.
I’ve moved around a lot in my 39 years and from my experience it’s the small town, small minded people who promote hate and exclusion. I’ve never met Marlilyn Manson and he never excluded me
“Who has more influence.....I’d like to say me but I’m gonna go with the president”
"I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would listen to what they have to say, and that's what no one ever did" dam straight up truth right there! Hate him or love him, Manson is a very smart man with words if wisdom!
This interview is why Marilyn Manson is a good modern day prime example of this old saying: “Don’t judge a book by its cover.”
This guy is intellgent as all hell. I love his answer to the question of what he would say. To simply listen because that's what no one did.
Coronavirus got me coming back to this interview because people live off of fear and it isn’t as bad as the media proclaims it to be.
121,000 dead in the U.S. in 4 months. Over 4,000 new cases in one day in FL...this is a mutating virus, a deadly contagious pandemic. We have reason to be concerned. Wear a mask. Think it's uncomfortable? Then you really won't like a ventilator.
@@freddiemercury4evr Meanwhile all the mainstream news networks 'This show was brought to you by Pfizer'
there is one line from megadeth who fits perfectly to the military attacks in these days: peace sells... but who's buying?
The mainstream community doesn't get the real meaning behind a lot of metal songs. It's not about spreading aggressions, violence or death, it's very often about revealing problems in our society, but then you are the bad guy by telling them the truth.
people don't want to know the truth and tbh I dont blame them, but once you do learn it, it's very liberating and you realize you can do whatever you want with your life
RESPECT
"I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would listen to what they have to say." Dang...
Creative people will always be scapegoated by the people in power and by the people that want to deflect their issues onto others.
It's sad that people blamed Marilyn Manson for the massacre that happened at Columbine. There were so many other factors that tied into the cause of the massacre and the biggest one that people still fail to take action for is bullying.
Marilyn Manson had really good points in this interview. one of my favorites was when he was asked what would he say if he had the chance to speak with the columbine students, what would he say? he said "I wouldn't say a single thing, I would listen to them, listen to what they have to say because no one did". no one listens until it's too late.
It's a myth that they were bullied.
@@BratWithACamera No it wasn’t. Stop making up lies.
@@BratWithACamera Its literally documented in one of the shooters journals. Even some of the home videos they made they name bullies.
@@Shatamx So your idea of a reliable source is 2 teenagers who brutally murdered 12 people and worshipped Hitler? Seems legit.
@@BratWithACamera of course the shooters themselves are a reliable source! Who better to know why then from the perpetrators. Not only them but even brooks brown (klebolds other best friend) and guys who knew them said the same. I personally spoke to brown back in myspace days and he told me entire stories when i researched this subject for college.
they were bullied they were outcasts. facts. don’t tell me u read that bullshit dave cullen book. that was entirely distorted to sell books
This is why I love Marilyn Manson - he says the deep intelligent statements that shocks his critics. They underestimated him and used him as a scapegoat which was unfair and disgusting. He didn’t supply the guns to the killers or train them in how to kill, these two young men were very disturbed traumatised young men who didn’t get the help they deserved. That’s not Marilyn’s fault that’s the fault of the health system that didn’t support them with therapy and the faculty that taught them but didn’t console them. Marilyn was absolutely right at the end when he said that he wouldn’t talk at all he would just listen because nobody ever bothered or cared and that’s why the massacre happened
That last answer was Golden!
"It's a campaign of fear and consumption . . . Keep everyone afraid and they'll consume"
Exactly what's happening right now in 2020 with COVID-19.
People loading up their trunks with toilet paper. Telling people we have to have mail in voting ballots. It’s all BS. Be aware of the political party who’s focus is on division and suppression of the truth.
“We have it all. Theses people are stupid. Nothing can stop what’s coming. Enjoy the show.” ~ Q
That's what I've been saying to everyone I know. There's been just over half a million deaths from it worldwide and almost 8 million of those that contracted it have recovered. It's the same thing every year. We had SARS, Lyme Disease, Swine Flu, Bird Flu, the list goes on and on. Exactly what's been going on since 1999 and they try to say we're all going to die. You all must buy these products to protect yourself. Just a bunch of sheep, that don't get that this isn't 1918, where Avian Flu killed an estimated 50 to 100 million people worldwide. More than both world wars combined. Even worse was the Black Plague of 1350 that killed half of Europe. Many of those people that stocked up on toilet paper were selling it for $50 a pack on Ebay and Amazon. Same old bullshit every year, just so the big companies can make extra profit and have an excuse to lay off people, or even fire them to hog more money. Really sick how people are so easily mislead. I'm not saying I won't wash my hands and wear a mask when I shop. If the stores want me to, I will. But I still think it's a big hoax to scare people and squeeze more money out of them.
The side of Marylin Manson no one knew about.
Ty Tavarez Well the fans do
And to this day, still no one does.
My goodness I love this man. I’ve watched this interview 1000 times. Glad to have watched him live multiple times.
Keep coming back to this clip :) M.M is a true legend
One guy looks normal and just uses empty phrases that are so simple only the biggest of simpletons woul believe them, and the other guy looks freaky and speaks so eloquently and intelligent, its amazing.
Also to be honest the "normal" guys eyes look empty and mean. He looks like his face is just a mask to hide his cruelty.
Finally Marilyn MAnsons last sentence: "I would listen to what they had to say" is so amazing..
I feel like that guy woud be like the kind of person who when the actual victim's wanna talk he's just gonna say Shh grown ups are talking.
@WaVy Crockett #JizzBoss nah im talking about the republican speaker, who is saying that Marilyn Manson promotes hate... Obviously not talking about Michael Moore
This is the most powerful interview I've ever seen.
A positive outlet for kids to de-stress and feel good about themselves: *exists*
Parents: *"NOPE."*
Who's here after the allegations?
me
Yeah, and it sucks. He makes great points, but then to find out all those allegations? It feels like it invalidates any sound advice he gives in here
Me
Being that you posted this after the allegations surfaced, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that approximately 100% of people that will reply to you will be here after the allegations.
@@tylergodspeed82 Well, I would've posted it before the allegations were made, but the allegations hadn't been made yet.
He knew being rather soft spoken and exhibiting a calm lucid demeanor would contrast his act so beautifully and it really worked extraordinarily well as we see here
“Its a campaign of fear and consumption” absolutely
And its incredibly true today.
Im not a huge fan of Marilyn Manson or his beliefs but he is very educated and intelligent and this is the truth they media and country want to do and think “KEEP EVERYONE AFRAID AND THEY’LL CONSUME”
“I wouldn’t say a single word to them, I would listen to what they have to say. Because that’s what no one did.”
I feel like this way of thinking is even more needed now than it was at the time. Everybody is just trying to get a word in and wants their opinion or point of view to be heard but nobody is actually listening. I feel like that’s only gotten worse with social media because it’s so easy for people to broadcast every solitary thought they have to the entire world. And a lot of that is positive, but I honestly do believe that if everyone talked a little less and listened a little more the world would not be in as bad of a state as it currently is.
"I would listen to what they have to say". That hit a moral string. Right There It Hit Me. "I would listen to what they have to say". Fuck...I'm going to make a difference, I have to.
Neither Eric Harris nor Dylan Klebolt were proven to have even listened to Marilyn Manson. Eric Harris saw himself as a "god" and therefore thought he was more superior to humanity. He diary entries explained that he enjoyed seeing people suffer, just because he thought they were beneath him. The occasional bullying only increased these thoughts and feelings. Dylan was just an angry and confused guy, but not as sadistic as Eric. I truly think if Eric hadn't met him, the shooting might have not happened or Eric would've probably done it on his own. The creepiest part is that Eric and Dylan, had planned this event for months, so this shooting was not a crime of passion or sudden impulse, but instead a methodical and calculating massacre.
are you sure eric went to prom?
@Alexa Christine many people are bullied at school and do not commit mass shootings.
Til this day, this is still happening. Pointing fingers at each other but no solutions.
Marilyn Manson for President !
HMT_Killshot nah trump is the Lord and Savior
YES
haha imagen Marilyn wipe is arse with the american flag for the second time at the inauguration
That would be awesome
Lol nobody would vote for him
Marilyn, i think you've got some couch on your boot.
I can say one thing nobody is perfect Marilyn manson is absolutely very creative and extraordinary person which you won't see often.
marilyn manson is absolutely amazing. i love how he calls things as they are and is honest about it as well. hes a good man
This guy's surprisingly intelligent.
Srujan Aggala Manson is absolutely brilliant.
HMT_Killshot apparently if you don't look like everyone else it's surprising to be intelligent. Shows you how stupid that guy is for making a judgment like that.
I don’t see why it’s surprising.
same
So intelligent he became fat, annoying and irrelevant.
I've listened to Marilyn Manson for years and it's never influenced my violent tendencies or drug use.
"Keep people afraid and they'll consume"
Man, that's deep.
It's still relevant to this day. Like Covid 19 and the media over explore the topic
I am 50 and i LOVE his music. And thats what it is, music. If music can influence bad behavior there were issues BEFORE the first note. Music is always the scape goat for behavior. Its time to stop blaming music for actions. Its a lot like saying a spoon or fork made me fat. Music is an expression. Music is art. You dont hear that Tupoc or Biggie made someone violent. Marilyn Manson is just different and has been made a target for a cause. Plain and simple.
What a good answer at the end! And he answered that question so fast and easy. I can see he's a very smart person.
I went to his concert back in the 90s, hes very brilliant, don’t judge a book by its cover
Love him or hate him, and I do think he's pretty good, but you can't dispute Marilyn Manson's logic.
such a brilliant man and outclasses crappy reporters so many times. manson got me through a tough child hood and negative self image and if it werent for his music i wouldnt be here today
Let's face facts Eric and Dylan were monsters for what they did but those kids were tortured columbine had nothing to do with Manson or video games
I agree, I think it would have happened either way. It's just easier for the parents of the victims to have someone or something to blame.
why would they blame Manson for what happened in Columbine
@@averagegameenjoyer4156, because people just like to point fingers at others.
No, they weren't. They were notorious bullies according to several sources. Have you read Eric Harris' diary? He was a psychopath filled with hate.