OLD vs NEW - The battle of the WINE WORLDs
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2022
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I have used this glass in this Video: RIEDEL Performance Riesling.
I have tasted the following wine in this Video:
2021 Arnaud Lambert Clos de Midi Brézé Loire France - 23 US $
2021 Mullineux Kloof Street Chenin Blanc Swartland South Africa - 16 US $
2019 Mathiasson Chardonnay Linda Vista Napa Valley USA - 30 US $
2019 Wolmuth Chardonnay Ried Sausaler Schlössl Südsteiermark Austria - 22 US $
2017 Peter Lehmann The Barossan Grenache Barossa Valley Australia - 16 US $
2019 Pagos del Moncayo Prados Collecíon Garnacha Campo de Borja Spain - 12 US $
2019 Valérie Courrèges Bois Carmin Cahors France - 30 US $
2019 Colomé Estate Malbec Salta Argentina - 23 US $
The 100 Point Scoring System (from www.robertparker.com):
96-100: An extraordinary wine of profound and complex character displaying all the attributes expected of a classic wine of its variety. Wines of this caliber are worth a special effort to find, purchase and consume.
90 - 95: An outstanding wine of exceptional complexity and character. In short, these are terrific wines.
80 - 89: A barely above average to very good wine displaying various degrees of finesse and flavor as well as character with no noticeable flaws.
70 - 79: An average wine with little distinction except that it is a soundly made. In essence, a straightforward, innocuous wine.
60 - 69: A below average wine containing noticeable deficiencies, such as excessive acidity and/or tannin, an absence of flavor or possibly dirty aromas or flavors.
50 - 59: A wine deemed to be unacceptable.
The Oxford Companion to wine defines the Old World as “Europe and the rest of the Mediterranean basin such as the Near East and North Africa.” Other definitions say only Europe is the old world, but we know today, that the first wine production took place along the borders between Europe and Asia.
The New World describes the rest of the wine world. Wine countries in the Americas, Australia, Southern Africa, Australia, and the eastern Parts of Asia. New World Wine started to be produced after 1500 during the Age of Exploration and the Colonial era when Europeans settles in the new world.
But what is the difference between the two worlds?
When I practiced for the Master of Wine I usually started my blind tasting funneling process wondering: Is this a New World or an Old World wine as there are stylistic differences between the two.
In VERY general terms The Old world has stricter rules and a strong tradition when it comes to viticulture and winemaking. Many old-world regions are dominated by many small producers. The wines are often made more traditionally, premium wine production is more small scale and wines can be less “clean”.
In contrast, The New World is experimenting more and using advances in science to produce wines that are more tailored to meet current market trends. Also, wineries tend to be bigger and might be less focused on small vineyard selections.
Remember - I am generalizing here - but the notion of Terroir, the sense place of a vineyard is more important in the Old World than in the New World. You, therefore, find more references to specific vineyard sites on old-world labels. On the other hand: The grape variety is more important in the New World and is more likely to appear on the label.
Konstantin, you are delivering top notch wine content on a regular basis like no on else. Keep up the good work . I’m looking forward to what’s coming!
Leon seriously has the World's greatest job, and thankfully he does DO a great job as well.
Hehe thanks so much!
Ahaha great quote of LOTR!!
Love how you include when you don't get it right - gives the rest of us hope. Another super video!
When they are at their best, I prefer old world. However, I find new world wines to be more consistent in quality, so I trust them more. I find French wine in particular quite variable in quality from bottle to bottle.
I try both, constantly exploring. Utterly amazed at your ability to recognize wines.
Another banger
Had to give you a like just for the Lord of The Rings reference!
Another great video, quality as always.
You’re right! It’s getting more and more difficult to recognize old and new world, especially after a certain price point! 😁
Fun times! A Salta Malbec- sneaky Leon 😏
Dear Konstantin, Thanks for the great videos. One thing which puzzles me about tasting in general, and especially when consideriing difficult blind tastings- i often have the impression that wine needs "to open up" (breath) after opening etc. You seem to just open, pour and drink. Do you compensate for the fact that the wine has been opened just before? Or is the subtle change of taste etc irrelevant for this purpose of tastings (or even irrelevant at all)?
I guess the first one! Sidenote - I too love The LOTR!
I never ever expected a LOTR reference!! Can you do a live event where we all sit down and watch LOTR to wine? That would be the coolest.
Best wine RUclipsr. Period.
Amazing video, the last wine was quite a surprise!!
Very impressive blind tasting Konstantin, never mind the mixup in the last pairing! I’m learning too, usually I knew the grape varieties before you said it by your deductions
Matthiasson is one of my favorite wineries in Napa Valley. I wish you lived in the US as the wine club is worth the money. They are minimal intervention wineries that makes unique wines for their members. They make an awesome Pinot Meunier that reminds me of a fruiter Gamay. The interesting thing about the wine making is that they mainly use used oak barrels and keep the wines lower in alcohol than most of Napa Valley.
I found this recently and subscribed straight away,wine is not a luxury but living.drinking Quality red everyday is a beautiful thing 🍷😀
Colome makes very good wines in an absolutely unique place, you can feel the altitude in their wines, they start at 1700 meters and reach 3111 metres of altitude! No wonder you took it for European wine!
One world !! Lol 😂 ! Very impressive tasting . In the last round , I saw the shape of the bottle and being from South America I know that very few Argentinian malbecs are bottled in Burgundy shape bottles. But the Salta wines are very fresh and for sure Leon messed with you !!!
true that! Reds from the Salta region are more tannic, potent and structured, not the typical Argentine malbec from Mendoza. The last round was rigged! :)
Do you post videos or bits of them to the other social media platforms? You deserve so much more attention. Without a doubt my favorite wine channel and I just freaking love your palate. If you don’t get famous soon, fire your media person :) unless that’s you, don’t fire you, hire somebody
I love it when he's right and flexes on the wine
I love both. Being from South Africa and spoiled for local choice it is however refreshing to taste wines from other parts of the world.
Very impressive tasting! I am equally impressed with your double bottle pouring.
Hi, when you make your Australien Wine Preview ,don’t forget Tasmania I taste a few wines there and I was Surprised of the Quality.
Thank you so much for the fantastic content best wishes from Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Great! I have at times been pleasantly surprised by Argentinan Malbec. Nice video, thanks Konstantin! Cheers. 🍷👍
Since I live in Italy, north eastern Italy, I can afford the luxury of choosing from a vast range of wines from Italy and bordering countries, and that's probably for the best, the less wine travels the better for the wine and the environment. But if/when I venture to the new world I'll be happy to bear your distinctions in mind. Thanks for another great video.
Would you do a eastern europe wines tasting soon :) ? Especially with local grape varieties like saperavi , feteasca neagra, furmint
I think putting them in all the same bottles would make all your blind tests a lot more fair. seeing screw top or bottle shape and weight have big influences
Niccce catch. Good to see Matthiasson get some love as well as Santa Barbara County (maybe my favorite region in the world). I personally LOVE Aussie Grenache. The last set is TOUGH as younger producers in Cahors are trying to make cleaner wines.
Always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!
Love this and all your videos!! I definitely learn a lot being an amateur wine lover! Please keep the video coming!!
Well done! Depends on what I want, if it's sparkling then definitely old world ,Champagne, Bourgogne, Jura, Cava Brut Nature and of course England. Reds are sort of 50/50 between Italy and Spain or Argentina, rarely from France. And whites are all over the place, dry PX whites from Chile, Chardonnays mainly from New Zealand and north Italy and Rieslings primarily from Germany.
14:58 - Konstantin doing the best smug face I've seen for a while.
I've love to see a follow-up video to this, of how to identify old vs new world wines. I guess most of us watching have picked a lot of it up by now, by I think it'd be great to see it spelled out really clearly. In fact, a whole series of "how to identify" stuff would be amazing, different grapes, old vs new world, different ages (i.e. crianza, reserva and gran reserva) and all the other things that wine has. It's all second nature for MWs but I've found myself just recently being able to start to identfy grape varieties and a few other characteristics and I find it a really interesting topic.
To answer the question: I don't know if I prefer old or new world. Generally I go for reds from Italy and southern France (especially Languedoc) but also South Africa and Australia. Recently I've been getting into Cab Sav and Merlot especially though, which makes me think I should drink more Bordeaux...but the cost of everything (not just wine) makes me think I should not be drinking Bordeaux at all!
I thoroughly enjoyed this blind tasting, you were spot on, picking the regions and grapes, also new & old world. The last tasting seemed like a curveball, but you didn't get it wrong, just reversed, brilliant! Cheers Konstantin, raising my glass of Abeja 2018 Heather Hill Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon from Walla Walla Washington for a job well done.
Love the tasting! I am a bit sad that the worlds are colliding though. I don't go to France or Germany to eat McDonalds and I think each region should have its own flair and character. Personally, I miss the old oaky/buttery California Chardonnays (but then I don't miss the old high alcohol, tannic California monstrosities). I live relatively near the NY Finger Lakes so I am mostly drinking new world Riesling and Gewurztraminers these days but a good old world wine is always worth a taste.
Thank you Konstantin. Your videos are enjoyable for those of us that are casual wine drinkers. I really appreciate your down to earth style.
I think whether you drink mainly Old World or New World wines has a lot to do with your budget, availability, market preferences and what most consumers in your part of the world purchase & drink. For me wines should have elegance, balance, typicity, intensity, complexity and length. I find that most of my wines are Old World wines because they can be found at more reasonable price points. If I want to find New World wines with the above attributes I have to look much harder and pay more per bottle. I also agree the differentiation between Old vs. New World is becoming more blurred now, as winemakers are trying to respect their terroir or keep up with changing consumer preferences. Another great video Konstantin, very fun and educational. Looking forward to the Aussie video, it would be cool if you were to include Aussie wines made from Italian/Spanish/Portuguese varietals, in addition to the "international French" ones.
True, preferences are one thing but they have to meet the budget to make it to the table. Personally I would love for wine to face zero tariffs everywhere to create optionality for the consumers, and compete on quality rather than price barriers and misplaced patriotism. The more there is to try, the better chance to discover something new that feels right.
Love your videos - great knowledge and very entertaining!
We carry the Samur Clos de Midi chenin. I'm laughing, Cahors isn't for the faint of heart.
Great video as always!! Keen for the Australian wine video!!!!
Really interesting blind comparison on the Chenins. South Africa has these days lots of top notch Chenins with a reasonable price tag.
Hi Konstantin,
Another great video. I loved your facial expression when you got the me when got the Argentinian and Cahors wines the 'wrong way round' :-) You're a top bloke for being humble and recognising you are always learning on the wine knowledge journey.
Look foward to your next video.
Tony
p.s would love to see you explore the wines of the Ribera Del Duero at some point?
I love Australian Syrah. I found them very intense, expecially the one from Maclaren Valley. like give a bite to a medium rare rob eye steak...the feeling of blood and rustiness amaze me. very unique
Another great video Konstantin, and here’s a +1 for an Australian special! Hoping you might sneak in some Yarra Valley or Tasmanian Pinot!
Great video as always! Just got to the Americas in WSET3 this week so fit my study schedule perfect! Thanks 🙏
Brilliant as always.
This is very difficult to do! You are amazing.
Hey Konstantin - Wholehearted thanks for your content. It lifts me up when I’m feeling blue.
Glad to hear it!
Another excellent video! I had thought that you would have been at 100K by next year sometime, I think you may be hitting that a bit sooner - and well deserved it is as your channel is easily the most informative and enjoyable one out there! I have been more and more impressed by the new world Bordeaux style blends coming out of Washington State. Although the old world styles are quite compelling, the cost of enjoying them is really becoming off putting as compared with other regions. So if you have not yet done a comparison of old world and new world Bordeaux blends, that may be interesting.
Really insightful! Thank you 🙏🏽
You've seen LoTR 14 times... only 14!!
Those are rookie numbers my friend, gotta pump those numbers up!! 😉
Excellent video.
Geat video. I love trying to guess the wine before you say it based on the description - I got Chardonnay, Australia and Spain this time. Eucalyptus really stands out for me too. Contrats on the 100/100 wine video going viral! Can you please do a video recommending some outstanding but affordable wines for Christmas (when the time is right. Sorry for using the C word so early)?!
Very cool video, you have an exceptionally well trained sensory system along with some excellent deduction skills!
Interesting to see how you got Cahors and Argentina mixed up, I was completely with you based on how you described the wines.
When you do Australia, I hope you include a Pinot from Yarra Valley or somewhere else in Victoria! Looking forward to that video.
Yes please! Or Mornington Peninsula - and maybe some Orange Syrah :)
Gippsland is the best - Bass Phillip, William Downie, Philippa Farr, and Lightfoot!
@@comradesomo Farr is outstanding, and Oakridge is one of my budget favorites.
Riesling from the Clare valley!
Australia episode please! We are more than just Barossa Shiraz!!! Clare valley Riesling (Grosset polish hill), Margaret River Chardonnay (Leeuwin Estate art series) and Cabernet (Cullen dianna madeline), Mclaren Vale Grenache (Yangarra) and Yarra Valley Pinot ( Mount Mary) all amazing
Very nice blind tasting.
I'm also going for the Loire Chenin Blanc.
Ultimately the old world. But I haven't explored the new world that much yet. At least with more quality red wines.
At least as far as old world reds goes, old world wines seem to be more in your face and busy in the sense of being structured and presenting a wine that screams where it's grapes were grown. You can almost taste the wine lineage. Konstantin, if you can, please try the 2019 Details By Sinegal, Cabernet Sauvignon. I just got done reviewing it and thought it was amazing. I paid $25 for the wine but it sells on the internet for $50, I think you will love it.
You are so easy to watch. Thanks guy.
Great video! I am currently loving anything from the Willamette Valley in Oregon both white and reds. I would love to see you do a video on that region.
That was a great video, loved the LotR reference! For me it's more about the country than Old or New, I love Italian & Spanish wines, French less so, from the old and NZ, Aus & Argentina from the New, US less so. It's probably more the styles that I was first introduced to that determine my preferences.
On cocktails, if you don't already have it I highly recommend the Death & Co. Cocktail book (first one not the Codex), it's the best I have though the ingredients can get complex. The best part about it is the layout, it's broken down by spirit then shaken or stirred so finding what you're feeling is easy compared to any other book, + the drinks are delicious.
Colomé wines are fantastic, very interesting blind tasting, cheers from Argentina!
Thank you 😊
Excited for the Aussie video
Have lived in Australia for years now and always stayed away from Peter Lehmann (Klingt auch ein bisschen zu deutsch der Name). It had that mass producer image to it for some reason. Super excited to get a bottle and give it a try, it's super affordable, too. Keen for that episode on Aussie wines.
Both has it's charm !
Total entertainment 💯 as wine should really be 😊
Quite the curveball was thrown at you with those Malbecs.
Greetings from 🇦🇷
Try some Penfolds that are made in different countries (to circumvent import duty maybe?) to see if there’s any terroir and quality difference.
Very entertaining, interesting to see the two worlds moving in different directions and sometimes swopping styles. I’m glad that Australia has finally stopped the over the top showy wines and gone back to a more table wine style.
This is such a good video idea!!
Let's make this happen!
Fight!
would love to see an Australian wine taste test!
Love Colome, they are using whole clusters when they press the wine if I'm not mistaken. Great value Malbec
Fantastic tasting! Outstanding at picking the grapes. To me, old vs new is increasingly more about wine making philosophy than geographical areas. California remains firmly new world but many producers trying to be more old world. New York (Long Island) is very old world in my opinion (very small producers, very focused on terroir, fairly high acidity, not excessive oak). South West of France generally very old world (apparently except this Cahors), while the Languedoc Roussillon is quite new world in style. I find that a lot of Spanish reds are pretty new world in fact. Same for Chile and Australia, while I find Argentina mostly old world (probably best value for money at the moment). Italy is very firmly in the old world in almost every area.
Hey Konstantin, great video! Would love to see a video about wines from Chile! I think there's pretty much beautiful wines. Cheers 🍷
Great reviews as always! I really enjoy your wine channel! Quick question: after open 8 bottles at once, what you do? You drink them all afterwords, give it away, throw all away? What you do? I’m dying to know!!!!! 😊
Thanks
Great tasting.
Quite an interesting tasting. I had a Malbec while visiting Cahors a number of years ago, and found it a bit too tannic for my taste. I obviously need to revisit - at least the wine if not the place.
I drink much more New World than Old World, but I’m value-driven, so I prefer wines from both - like Beaujolais, Chianti, and Australia. There are so many high-quality wines from all regions in 2022 - the best values come from all over.
If you are seeking value in Old World buy from Spain and specially Portugal. Cheers!
Literally there are tons of great values from the old world…. When you want super high quality at good value you have to look outside France and California. But you can absolutely find some amazing wines at affordable prices from literally everywhere! Just realize you’ll have to sift through a bunch of mediocre stuff, but that’s the burden we must bare.
If you like French wines, the Rhone valley has a lot of value, especially if you look outside the most famous appellation of Chateauneuf du Pape. There are a lot of producers who make exceptional Cotes du Rhone in the $18-25 range.
It’s interesting that you mentioned screwtop vs cork for one of the comparisons. It looks like another pair could be distinguished by the same feature. So to blind, might want to use the same bottle type for both
Fun indeed. Lots of challenging change, try some of the new early picked Australian Grenache with can be mistaken for Pinot, the modern looking labels usually indicate that style.
Interesting, thank you! 👍
You should also try some wine from Moravia region. There are quite good Rieslings, Veltlins and Weissbungunder
i was in the saumur region last weeks for vacation. pretty good wines 😀
Obviously you have eben shopping in my favorite onlineshop 😂 Really loved to hear your opinion on those wines!
Great idea to compare new versus old, maybe try old versus new
I finally found Lambrusco, in sainsburys. The tastiest wine I’ve had for a while.
Interesting choice of wines! Australia is not overly known for its grenache, at least compared with other red varietals like shiraz, cabernet, or pinot, and when grenache is used it is mostly in southern Rhone style GSM blends. Peter Lehmann is a producer famed for his shiraz, with that grenache coming in at a very reasonable price here of about $20AUD or €14. If you can find it, some of the very best Australian grenache is made by Cirillo, the grapes for which are grown from possibly the oldest surviving grenache vines in the world, dating back to 1848.
Hey that was a best kept secret. Old vine Grenache is amazing, often showing like Pinot noir in elegance and red fruit spectrum.
“. . . completely messed that up.” Ha! Are you aware how few of us could have even identified the variety in a true blind tasting?
Matthiasson is a lovely small winery to visit.
If you are interested in great cocktail books, may I suggest "The Drunken Botanist" by Amy Stewart. I'm a wine guy first and foremost, then a foodie, then a gardener. This book was a brilliant read about the history and botanicals on which certain spirits are based. Cheers!
Old World with food and New World to socialise with or just chilling in front of the TV... Not a rigid choice by any means, but my go to generalisation...
I love wines from the Old and New World. There are so many crazy delicious wines.
I appreciate your sense of humor! And double fisted pouring is super impressive!
Awesome stuff as always!
Would love to see New York State Finger Lake Rieslings go up against some German ones!
I once attended a tasting of rieslings, gewurz and pinot gris from the US, Italy and Nelson, New Zealand. Absolutely epic. If I recall correctly, some of the US rieslings were from the Finger Lakes.
i wish i was a master of wine as well so i could pour two bottles at the same time.
Colome is a great winery and salta is making some fine wines
love you videos ! but why do you not do white tablecloth? it will bright up the colour off the wine..
Pretty Amazing! wow