As stated, you met Jeff through Heather. Other chumps that came from Heather: Julie, Brandy, Lala, Fortune..and Megan wants to complain about “sharing friends.” Hypocrisy! Seems like Heather has no problem sharing and seeing others succeed!
Megan made Heather feel like EVERYONE hates her secretly. That’s a terrible feeling to think you can’t walk into a room of friends comfortably. So sad for anyone to go through
FACTS I ESPECIALLY DIDNT LIKE HOW SHE TRIED TO THROW EVERYONE ELSE IN THE MIX BY SAYING NOBODY IN THE GROUP REALLY LIKES YOU WHICH TO ME IS REALLY FUCKED UP..
Rick being honest is saying how you feel. Being a bully is saying everyone in the groupfeels that way..... Megan was a bully. She didn't just say "I don't like you" she said "the whole JLL group doesn' like you". That some nasty girl behaviour right there.
Meagan is not “habitually” mean to people nor does she always seek harm on them. Heather is definitely not considered a “vulnerable” person. Calling her a “bully” is not accurate, and a strong word to use for someone who was being honest with her feelings.
I believe Heather could handle the criticism from Megan, it was when she lumped all of the chumps in and that really broke her heart. Can you imagine appearing on JLL thinking you are one of the chumps and part of the group and then realizing that ‘everyone’ has been talking about you behind your back? How humiliating! Heather has always shared about her personal life on Patreon. Why should she protect Megan? Btw, she never asked her fans to go after anyone, she has a loyal fan base of people who are rooting for her but also are fans of JLL.
I can't imagine what it feels like to hear everyone hates you. Especially if it's a group of people that you think you get along with. This should've been a one on one conversation between the two of them. Megan should have said hey Heather, let's meet for coffee. I need to talk to you about something. And there would have been a different outcome.
It was terrible. Megan just couldn’t stop until she “put Heather in her place” which Megan clearly thinks is beneath her. Megan cannot acknowledge the fact Heather has accomplished so much through hard work and hustle. Not riding somebody else’s coattails.
Yeah fuhck Megan and anyone on that show that smiles to her face and talks ish behind her back. I used to watch Jeff on Bravo a hundred years ago but I wouldn't have even known about Jeff's podcast if it weren't for Heather so I'm happy she shared this with us so I won't tolerate all those chirping pick me's on JLL
If you follow Heather at all you know that she was really burned by the lies that Chelsea spread about her. She was not going to let such an unfair event be out there for anyone else to spin. I applaud her for sticking up for herself.
Kelly, if this happened to you, you would not just take it and be silent. You would call the person out in a public forum as you have before regarding Tamra, Heather Dubrow, etc. Heather MacDonald is super upset. I don't even have patreon, but on Juicy Scoop, she started crying. She was also very clear that you guys were not there when this went down so people wouldn't think you were involved in what happened.
@@kellyleventhal Megan should have just met Heather for coffee, and say I need to talk to you about some thing. Having this conversation at your home where there were other people involved, that's where It went wrong. Heather should have waited to put the Patreon out however, I think Heather was playing offense. She told her story before Megan got to tell it. Kelly I know when you say it, it's the truth. I think you'll have to navigate separate friendships. I would never accept an apology from her. I'm not as gracious as you and I'm just too old for this drama. Lol
No way do I believe that Megan didn't have access to a phone to contact Heather, even if her own was "dead". She has kids! You know that she is going to have a way for her kids to contact her. I call BS on that excuse.
They were drinking…. Of course it’s going to come out then, they call the the truth syrup for a reason….. Megan’s way of going about it was wrong yes but if that’s how she feels then that’s fair….
Everyone else can talk about it but not Heather? It happened! She has the right to speak about it. If Megan doesn’t want the repercussions she shouldn’t have been so awful. In todays world we NEVER tell someone, “nobody likes you.” Horrible behavior.
Honestly, Heather had no choice but to get in front of the narrative. She was told everyone at JLL hated her so it’s understandable that she would assume it’d be talked about on the radio show.
LOL! That’s rich. Rick and Kelly criticizing Heather for going public with her story! “Bullying behaviour” in their opinion. 😂😂😂😂😂. Then Kelly slipped and called all the fans “the minions”. Sometimes the truth serum slips out. Signed, an x “minion”.
I laughed when Rick was listing out all the ways that Megan wasn’t a bully- one was “she isn’t bigger and stronger than her”. I think he’s thinking of a cartoon version of a bully 😂
Jeff talks about everything on the radio, he was absolutely not going to keep it private forever. Heather had every right to post a personal story in her Patreon and promote it. You guys do that all the time! Also, it wasn’t a heart to heart if you’re drunk and telling someone you don’t like them. A heart to heart is saying “here’s what bothers me, can we work on this, etc”
I agree 100%. Who would want to hang out at Rick and Kelly’s knowing that if something got out of hand at their house, they wouldn’t step in and end it? Sheesh. Awful.
@@TheRickKellyShow I’m just saying that I would not want that to escalate and especially if it seemed that one person was more the aggressor. But I’m sure it’s a tough spot to be in. I just know Heather and she’s so kind and supportive and I think Megan WAY overstepped 🤷♀️
@@TheRickKellyShow also, I don’t think she had a choice but to share what happened. It would have absolutely been discussed on JLL podcast and she deserved to get her story out there. If Megan wanted it to be a private matter she should’ve talked to Heather in private.
Heather is destroyed in her podcast- my Catholic girls school was nothing like this/ but the inner city public school friends I had described behavior like this /from 4th grade!!! This Megan is 4th grade drunken creep
Exactly. And her sister wasn’t there to defend her. Her sister was there and how embarrassing when someone is telling you that they think all these things of you and they don’t like you. It’s mean
The term “friend poacher” makes my skin crawl. We do not own our friends. We need all the help we can get making real connections in this world. We don’t have to enjoy everybody, but as soon as we start telling others who and how we can approach friendship we become exclusionary. Women can be horrible to each other, especially when they feel ‘their territory’ is threatened. We need to do better. This whole thing is really icky - especially for women in their 50’s who are also raising the next generation.
To Jeff Lewis’s credit, he always seems happy when his friends become friends. It seems childish to be upset when someone enters your friend circle. Like Kelly said, the more, the merrier.
So Meghan took it upon herself to talk on behalf of all this people...at a party....and let Heather know how "they" all felt about her? All negative. Wow! If that is not bullying I dont know what is.
THIS!!!! And then the others sitting there when it started "didn't want to hear it" as these two are saying and "when it the house". Looking for plausible deniability much? Stu sits there nodding his head and pumping Meghan up until she goes so far he got uncomfortable.... now he's crying because us fans are calling him out? Shut all the way up folks. You got exposed.
100 percent bully behavior!! If u are sincerely speaking ur feelings to a friend, the CARDINAL RULE is to NEVER speak for other people which denotes “ganging up mentality” or in simplistic terms: a classic BULLY. Megan sounds like a horrible person!
You guys have clearly chosen sides. By Rick’s own definition in this very video, Heather was verbally bullied and as her host, you and the other guests did nothing to shut it down and instead, left the area so that Heather had to fend for herself with someone that you knew didn’t like her. If no one stepped in to squash it, especially my hosts, I’d feel bullied too - by all of you who watched me cry and did nothing.
But Heather’s own sister was there and didn’t stop it either. She had an ally who didn’t step in, so why are you blaming Kelly and Rick? Besides, Heather and Megan are both grown ass women who should be allowed to work out their problems themselves. To jump in to “fix things” infantilizes them. I agree that Megan was mean and unnecessarily hurtful to Heather, but it wasn’t bullying.
I completely agree. It almost sounds like they were in on it and knew the ambush was going to happen before Heather even knocked on the front door. If I was a host and one guest was bullying another and being downright cruel, I wouldn’t just look around and then slip away because I felt uncomfortable. What about the other guest being unfairly attacked?
You guys met through Jeff, who puts all of his beef out to the public. I love Jeff but Heather had every right to put it out just like he does with his stuff.
Heather is a really nice woman and her podcast is not malicious and Megan was just out of line. I’m in my 40s and this behaviour is just so deplorable. A Women tearing another women down at a nice friendly gathering is straight up mean. Jeff Lewis needs to dress down Megan who works for him for going after his friend and basically throwing him and his team under the bus. No one wants to be dressed down at a party by a drunk women.
This Megan took it upon herself to tell Heather that she doesn't like her and why but to tell her everyone doesn't like her either and why. If these others don't like Heather than let them tell her. I'm glad the whole batch got put in their place. This lady went way over the line. Apologizing doesn't correct anything that has happened. These people aren't little kids apologizing doesn't work. Heather can never go on jeff Lewis again thinking or knowing how others feel about her. Megan was definitely a bully
Rick you’re in the wrong! Heather has every right to share what happened to her just like you and Kelly do about your own life. What Megan did was horrible and she should have apologized immediately! Heather made it clear that she didn’t want her fans to go after any party so I don’t know why you’re thinking she’s trying to get her fans against anyone. Megan is being a Meangirl period !
Sorry but I completely disagree with them defending Megan. You can’t hide behind the argument that Megan wasn’t being a bully because she was being honest about her feelings. It’s about how she did it that makes her a bully. Heather is just standing up for herself, and she’s not doing anything that every other person with a podcast and some personal beef hasn’t done.
I’m no longer interested in podcasts or any entertainment sources from Jeff/Stu/Megan/Rick&Kelly/Mercedes. It’s not bc I’m team Heather it’s bc it’s gone to far from all of you. It happened in your home.
The Heather hive is real and megan grossly underestimated that. Megan’s whole rant wasn’t appropriate. It’s OK to dislike someone that you work with in a professional setting and not tell them to their face. People do it every day it’s called being an adult. Megan actually needed this to knock her off her high horse.
Anyone who has a podcast is gonna speak on what happened to them, Jeff Lewis talks about EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE he has a problem with, as does TAM&TED, as does Kelly. That's just a thing now days😂
I’m seeing that all over now too. Gossip. The one thing I was taught by my mother do not gossip. It backfires, stay far away from it. Just like party phone lines back in the day. Many things should by kept private. Spilling tea is a huge subject now. And people actually pay to hear it. I hope they work it out. Peace & Love
I listen to JLL every single day. I really enjoy Megan and all of “the chumps”. I enjoyed listening to this perspective. But how is what Heather did any different than what Jeff does when he gets into an argument with one of his friends or even just a customer service employee? Heather shares her entire life with her listeners, same as Jeff. Megan, who is an employee of Jeff’s and makes money from his show weekly by him/ them spilling the tea about their personal drama- it’s fair game what Heather did. Every JLL fan knows if Jeff was Heather in this situation, Monday morning he’d be airing out all the drama to his listeners the same way Heather did. (You have to pay for both Patreon and Sirius XM- so technically both are “behind a pay wall”). As a fellow Catholic tribe member, sorry Megan but “an eye for an eye”. 😂🙏🏻
Completely disagree with the take on bullying. Telling someone no one in the group likes you is bullying. It’s isolating Heather so she never feels comfortable around the group again. I guess Megan is getting what she wants. Sounds like a bully to me.
Megan planned this trip. Obviously she did not want Heather on the trip. Heather should not be inviting herself or digging for info. Not bullying at all. Opening your mouth selling the story on your channel is bullying.
@@adk4419 I can understand Megan’s point on the trip, and she could have spoke to her about that without piling on how much she is unliked by her and a whole group of people. Finding out that a group of people are speaking bad about you behind your back while being nice to you in person, is very high school.
Anyone could read in the text from Kelly that Megan was the contact closest to Megan’s friend to ask about going on the trip. Heather must have picked up that Megan might not want her there and asked Patric instead. But if this scenario is close to the truth, why would Heather want to hang out with someone she suspects isn’t keen on her?
Is friend poaching even a thing? I love nothing more than when I introduce a friend to another and they become friends. Plenty of love to go around people. Sounds like Megan blindsided Heather and that’s not okay.
I’ve had so many “ friends “ that act like you’re poaching if you just click with their friends. They get SO SO jealous. It’s like obviously if I’m friends with you , I’d vibe with people your friends with too. I love it when my friends become friends
I love Heather and she’s never mean to anyone and shows up for everything. She’s a hustler and part of her comedy or improv acts is that she does have to mingle and meet people and she’s worked her ass off and if she doesn’t get out and about it would effect her job. She has worked extremely hard and made it far bc of that. Female comics have to hustle way harder than men and other women should support her and if you don’t care for someone you don’t have to talk shit.. either let them know what bugs you privately one on one or be an adult and be cordial. It’s not being fake it’s called being a grown woman and confronting someone while you’re drunk and belligerent is not the way to go. I disagree with Rick for the first time.. Heather has every right to use her platform just like Kelly does. You guys say stuff about personal things that happen everyday which is what you’re supposed to do. That’s why it’s your platform to speak out. Jeff does it also. I’m also sure this puts Jeff in a very uncomfortable position bc he works with both women and likes them both. I hate people that talk shit about others. Not the kind of people I want to be around.
@Stefany Hyer Agree with everything you said. Not right to label Heather's ambition & work ethic this way. Also, it's not right to blast someone without any regard to the impact.
could not agree more!! they all use their platforms (juicy scoop, jeff lewis live, daily smash) to share their personal lives and speak on whatever issues arise around them. it comes off as hypocritical for you guys to be upset with heather for sharing her story on her platform. not to age shame but by 50 years old a person should know not to bring up an emotional conversation while drunk. if meghan didn’t like heather that is completely valid. meghan is entitled to feel however she wants to, but it’s important to how her feelings are expressed. meghan coming from a place of hurt on top of already drinking all day wasn’t the best time to bring up her distain towards heather.
Heather was very adamant about not going after Megan and the Chump crew! She was venting even though she was hurt very badly. She still doesn’t want to hurt anyone else. That is why she said do NOT go after Megan or the Chumps, She also said she resolved her differences with Jeff but it’s still very hurtful.
So basically Megan is jealous of heather entering your friend group and when she becomes close to certain individuals. Why do ppl like Megan think that it’s ok to give their opinion or give someone their character? Who are they to do that ? And why do they think that it’s ok to assassinate someone and hide behind “ I was being honest “ no you have issues and should kept them to yourself. Work on you hun ! Heather going public was from a place of deep hurt and tbh she’s entitled to do so . And unfortunately she has exposed Megan’s true character which will get back lash but that really is Megan’s consequence of her actions and time to reflect on her actions.
I’m sorry but Megan sounds like a not nice person. As an adult, you can’t just expect a friend not to like someone just because you don’t like someone. This Megan needs to grow up.
Okay I must say Kelly and Rick, you guys said it all perfectly and I 100% agree, excellent!! And who is Meghan calling an opportunist??? She hangs onto Jeff Lewis.
8:38 “But Megan’s like Oh God why is SHE here?” To say that about your bosses friend of 15+ years speaks volumes. She’s jealous that Heather infiltrated the group and must have other insecurities for her to attack her infront of a group.
You two were put in a very awkward position. Megan, knowing you are friends with Heather should never had confronted her in front of others. I could say more, as I see them both on Jeff’s podcast. but I’m not going there except to say, ZIP IT both of them. 🤐
Heathers platform is Juicy Scoop, Rick. Heather posting her feelings behind a paywall and telling how she felt is almost expected. I am completely behind Heather because she took the high road and all she did was say mean things were said to her and she never meant to hurt anyone. Heather has every right to talk about her life on whatever platform she wants because that is what her business is, literally her business, JUICY SCOOP, HELLO!!! As a paying Patreon member I would have been mad if she did not say something about it. Megan is clearly jealous for whatever reason and it is ok for her to say Hey Heather I am not really fond of you but it sounds like it went on a little bit too long and a lot more things were said that were personal and mean. Heather has every right to stand up for herself. Why should she shut up about it ? Put Kelly in Heathers place and let me know how that would go down.
Lets us all not forget how she tortured Shannon EVERY chance she got and literally laughed at her crying. Kelly is a huge example of a mean girl and her pretending not to be in front of the man she was able to catch is laughable. After watching her on tv I know what a hypocrite is, bad mom by example is, exhibitionist is, mean girl is, etc. Those are the biggest ones ... don't have all day. Feel so sorry and embarrassed for her daughter.
I was 💯 thinking this! Yuck… I’m so turned off of Kelly now & I actually liked her. They would be slamming anyone that crossed Kelly. Kelly just sounds like such an airhead & Rick sounds like a dope now, just slurping her bath water,
Heather did not bully by going on her podcast. I heard her Juicy Scoop in which she discussed this. Heather just spoke about what happened and Heather's feelings. She did say that, at first Stu, was nodding along with Megan and suddenly Stu changed and told Megan that this was too much. Heather also started that Stu called her to check how she was doing.
It sounds like Megan demoralized Heather. Unless someone has behaved diabolically, there’s no reason to take them apart like that letting them know all the reasons you dislike them. She likely let her know everyone in their friend group disliked her as well. That’s not honesty; that’s just a hateful thing to do. And it is bullying, not just a conversation between two women.
“Her phone was dead”…what?! I laughed every time they said that. It’s 2023, no one has a dead cell phone for longer than they WANT a dead phone. Even if Cali was a week into a statewide blackout, Megan wouldn’t be walking around with a dead phone…🙄
Rick, I respectfully disagree about your assessment of who displayed bullying behavior. Meghan went in hard not only speaking for herself but others. Stating how people talk about Heather behind her back. Perhaps it was the truth, but there can be truth in bullying. It does not make what she did right at all. Why shouldn’t Heather be able to speak her truth. I think you all would do the same on this platform if a similar situation took place.
Everyone who has a podcast doesn't do it for free. This is Heathers job. Off course she would put it on Patreon. I bought her Patreon bc of this so she is smart!
Heather said that she has known Megan for 8 years, has done multiple dinners out, girls' trips and been on Jeff's podcast with her. Heather had NO IDEA Megan disliked her to the extent she does and was IN SHOCK to be on the receiving end of Megan's rant. Heather said that Megan implied that many people that work at Jeff's podcast feel the same way as Megan does about her. During part of Megan's "rejection speech" to Heather, Chef Stu co-signed the charges against Heather - to a point, then stopped. Heather was BLINDSIDED!
@@aylemarshland5609 This is not Stu's fight. Why is he being blamed? What ever side he picked he would be dragged for it. Jeff wasn't there so he should not be criticizing anyone the way it went down. I'm sure he is not happy with Megan's behavior and speaking for the chumps.
I am sure B & J and all of the other cross-over co-hosts will not choose a side. Do you think B&J Bought their own tickets to Adele or to VIP Universal Halloween Horror? Nah
@@KriSmit913 I heard Brandie once say on air that she accidentally butt dialled Heather loads of times and said something that might be innocuous but got my attention, “of all people to butt dial” and said it a couple of times. And MJ has said a few comments about HM which suggested to me she isn’t a fan.
I wanted to add that having a dead cell phone is not excuse for not apologizing. She could have used Ben's phone, your phone, anybody's phone so no excuse.
Yeah, who had a dead phone for more than maybe an hour these days?! It’s impossible to not be able to charge your phone. Perhaps she has the Sunday scaries realizing what an ass she was but is too much of a mean girl to actually want to apologize so she acted like her phone was dead.
Kelly doesn't slither. She was probably giving them the chance to talk it out. Don't say that about Kelly. I could care less about a stupid girl fight. But I love Rick and Kelly.
The hypocrisy...Rick saying Heather is a bully because she went public with her beef...post it on instagram..isn't that what he and Kelly do for a living???
Heather did not tell us to do anything, we heard the hurt in her voice thats all. I also disagree with you guys saying heather is being a bully, completely inaccurate, she was attacked in front of a group and no one stood up for her, that hurts!! So she went to patreon, where she knows is a safe place, unlike at a friends house. Plus Heather is the one who has brought this crew together and now feels shunned at least I think thats some of it.
Completely agree with this comment. When someone comes at you and says "we all think this" feels like gaslighting behavior. Megan agreed that she was "too harsh" but didn't call to apologize but was able to post her fun pics on IG.
They ALL tell their business publicly. Jeff lewis tells everything going on in his life on his radio show everyday. So I'm not surprised Heather spoke about it. I found it after posting this he spoke about it first on Monday on his radio show. Heather has even more right to go talk about it
Rick, Heather did not rally her fans. People have free choice, but its was never mentioned or even hinted at. It's Heather's story and she can tell it. So it's a problem Heather told the world that Megan hates her - omg, the audacity. Heather owes Megan nothing. Hasn't Megan heard the phrase "don't start none won't be none"? Anyone that thinks she has a right to tell you "how I really feel about you" has an exaggerated sense of her own importance. And yesterday when Kelly said she heard Heather was going to post about it on Patreon, you said Heather should talk about it, you hope she does, and then you can talk about it, LOL. So which is it - Heather should talk about it OR Heather is bullying because she talked about it?
To be your age… Speaking like a high school mean-girl trying to justify their actions… I’d be embarrassed for y’all if you weren’t grown. Team Heather. 💜
PS - and final thoughts - what did Megan expect Heather to say or do. “Gee Meghan, thank you for telling me that everybody hates me and they don’t want me on any of their trips and don’t like filming with me.” who cares who has the receipts and who asked who first etc. etc. - someone just tells you off to your face in front of several people and you’re supposed to say “thank you very much I think I’ll leave now”
I don't care who it is, it's inappropriate to bring this to someone's home. I'm surprised Rick and Kelly aren't disappointed in Megan. Rick, sometimes the Thumper rule is the way to go.
Megan wasn’t just sharing her feelings. She was saying everyone talked about and disliked Heather. Y’all are awful to support Megan on this one. I don’t always agree with Heather’s take on things, but she doesn’t deserve what Megan did or your support of what she did. Y’all are awful.
I don’t think you guys have the best interest for Heather either. Instead of trying to settle this, you are bringing out receipts and for what? To paint Heather in a bad light? When a person is already suffering push her down even more. Wow
Heather is a loving person who thought the JL crew was a safe space only to hear that they all hate her and think she’s a rude social climber, how heartbreaking it must have been. But she sounded so strong on her Patreon, I know she will rise above this and soar to even greater heights! ❤️
I know bullies, Megan was mean saying these things. Who cares if Megan was getting stuff off her chest. Why make someone feel so bad, so you can feel bigger and better? WOW!
I just saw a fan post- Stu once said some unkind things about her to me… I met him and Jeff maybe a year ago. Stu was talking to me about Jeff’s Sirius radio negotiation. Heather is one of my favorite guests and told Stu they have such great chemistry on radio they could have a show together. Stu’s response has stuck with me since. He said, “ ugh not heather!! She is sooo competitive.” And told me she’s a social climber, blah blah. I was so shocked he would say that to a ‘fan’. If he’s saying that to me, it means he’s really talking some shit with his friends.
You should tell Heather that story. What a Jeri for saying that to a fan. O don't want to listen to Stuff or Megan anymore. Megan always bragging about her add on to her house and all the famousppl she meets. What hypocrisy . Bullies.
I don’t like Stu I believe he has bad intentions with Jeff and Jeff deserves better. He was doing so much shady shit when they first got together and Megan needs to worry about all her nasty yeast infections and what’s going in and out of her mouth. Maybe she should keep her nasty mouth shut! Don’t come for Heather.. they are both bitches.. Stu and Megan!
People too often use “I’m just being honest” as an excuse to be mean. The truth is, you don’t have to be honest about your feelings to people all the time. You can just distance yourself.
Stu was agreeing with Megan at the beginning. But then it went too far & he felt bad. Stu told Heather that Jeff had told him they couldn’t invite her somewhere bc “no one likes her”. Why say that to Heather? It’s mean. Jeff & everyone tells all their beef to everyone - why can’t Heather? She has every right. Megan can’t apologize for the things she said - there’s no going back from that 💩.
Rick and Kelly on Monday: "Something went down and it wouldn't be right to talk about it. Oh, and it involved Heather". Rick on Monday "I hope she puts it on Patreon because then we can talk about it". Rick and Kelly on Tuesday/Wednesday: "She shouldn't have talked about it on Patreon."
Eeek I don’t think you guys should have spoken on this! Seem more like you’re on Megan’s side, Heather is allowed to share her life just as Jeff does and everyone else with a platform. Megan is a drunk, let’s call a spade a spade. You can share feelings without going low, and if she doesn’t think anything is wrong with her behaviour I’m sure she will do it to you guys too eventually. I guess only time will tell. Love you guys, Juicy Scoop & JLL but this is not right talking down to someone just cause you don’t like them.
Megan put everyone in an awkward position for a long time talking about Heather to their mutual friends. Honestly I'd be upset with Megan for putting you in this situation and not being adult enough to spend time together. She should have had an adult conversation with her sooner and before all of this. I think Kelly handled this situation the best way possible. She didn't let Megan bully her into not spending time with Heather. It seems like Megan wanted all of her mutual friends to choose who they were spending time with (often leaving Heather excluded). That's upsetting.
Why did Megan did it a) in your house where she is a guest and made YOU feeling uncomfortable and b) in front of your guests? Why not being a grown ass woman and say to Heather: “Can I please talk to you in privat?! Wow! Just wow!
It was no “heart to heart”. It was Megan being vicious. Heather shared her personal life, had every right to speak it. I think Rick is being unfair about this, because you two share about your personal life. Heather said Stu was on her side. And she didn’t rally anyone, she said she didn’t want anyone saying anything to Megan.
Youre right, Rick, is totally wrong, Rick has daughters, I feel Rick, bullied Heather twice, once in his home, then when Heather spoke on her patreon.Calling her a bully, unbelievable. Have a good day !
I don't think it's come out how Megan acted after she ran Heather out of the little party. If Megan was crying it was only because she was hammered. I would love to know how much more she told to everybody still there and spun the story that she did nothing wrong
Both of you admitted that you didn’t hear the whole conversation. Heather is speaking from her point of view and she felt blindsided. To say that Meghans phone died and she wanted to call her earlier. Lame ass excuse. What, it takes less than 15 min to charge a phone. Come on.
I agree with most of what you all said. Except, Megan didn’t just speak about how SHE felt. She took it upon herself to be the voice of the “chumps” on FLL, that’s where I think it went left. IMO
And btw, if Meagan is allowed to “be honest”, Heather can do what she wants with it. Rick, you have obviously never really been to therapy- it’s the first rule: You can do what you want, you don’t get to choose how I react to it. When you walked away, you co-signed Meagan’s monstrous behavior. You guys are backtracking & victim blaming. Now we get to react how we want.
Thanks for sharing. Rick. You’re a nice guy but you’re wrong. Heather isn’t a bully. Heather didn’t go public. It was behind a pay wall. I got the scoop from you guys.
Hi Rick and Kelly, that put you guys in a bad situation, but Megan didn't just speak how she felt. If she would have stopped at that it would have been fine, but to tell Heather all the chumps don't like her, and nobody wanted her on the Disney trip, that's where the bullying came in. She said she was speaking for a crowd so yeah, that's bullying .
Jeff rallies people against everyone all day long and Megan encourages it as that is how she makes money, being a bully. Meagan is just a weak mean girl until she is a drunk then she’s a brave mean girl and none of you all shut it down.
We ALL know that if Heather were a man, no one would blink an eye at self promotion, dismissiveness, or conversation dominating moments. Heather is upset bc she has been gaslighted about being left out of attending events. Example: Adele concert. She is on Jeff’s show, confronting him about how she suggested it, then they ignored her texts and went to Adele anyway. Jeff dismisses Heather’s concerns - on his show - & acts like he didn’t know and/or forgot (aka gaslighting Heather). Pretty sure the bullies are Megan and Jeff in this whole thing.
Thank you...that's what I think too. I can actually imagine Jeff telling Megan that somebody needs to tell Heather that you guys don't like her and then sit back and waits.
Megan was completely wrong in this. I understand everything Heather did. This was devastating to Heather. I don’t blame her. She did bully Heather. Her cruel , cringy jealous fueled thoughts were meant to hurt and harm Heather. Not uplift her or share privately how she felt. She could of done it another day just the two of them. If it was so needed. Megan is the bully as far as I see.
16:10 if Heather didn’t RALLY us. She shared just like you share here and Jeff shares on radio. Megan didn’t share feelings. MW wants everyone to unfriend Heather. That’s a bully.
Rick....Heather gave Megan ample time to respond & hopefully apologize. Also, Heater did confirm that Stu, in the end, consoled her, but at first he didn't & that may be where the "bullying" feelings originated. No deadlines here. Its not the newsroom. Heather can say how she feels if she wants & she did not immediately post it. She waited. Megan could have borrowed a phone, if it was important enough. That didn't happen either. And Megan could have always spoke to Heather in private....& that didn't happen either. Sad situation. Don't know why Megan chose to "burn bridges". Megan is the one who calls friends "my people" which shows her true colors. Also, life is not about the number of followers someone has. IMO-Megans actions do not = a "strong woman" at all. How u make people feel is what is the issue.
I think Heather is hilarious and extremely successful. I felt awful for her this morning. I think that Kelly or Rick, being the hosts, should have diffused the situation, and told Megan to go to sleep and the next day they could talk about it calmly. I think leaving the two women with Chef Stu was absurd because, God bless him, he is extremely dense. Oh well, what a weekend for all parties involved!
I like the Rick & Kelly Show. I've been watching it for months -- and will continue to watch. But I have to say I am disappointed by this episode because I don't think R&K were fair to Heather. Personally I don't think it's bad for Heather to talk about what happened on Patreon -- or anywhere else. But let's say it is a horrendous thing to do. That still doesn't undo how poorly Meagan treated Heather by saying negative things to her in a social setting where everyone should feel welcome and treated respectfully. If it is true that Meagan decided to tell Heather about Heather's faults at a social get together, Meagan should apologize -- sincerely --- from the bottom of her heart.I doubt that will happen. I suspect Meagan is too proud to admit she was rude and treated another human with profound disrespect. I also suspect that Meagan is WILDLY jealous of Heather. There really is no other reason she'd be hyper concerned about Heather and whom Heather pays attention to. That's such a shame. On a couple of occasions I've felt jealous -- only to find out later that I really liked the person I foolishly felt envy about. PS Kelly I don't think Heather is particularly sensitive. Fact is she couldn't be a stand-up comedian if she were. I think sometimes people who are insensitive choose to call others sensitive as a deflection. Please don't take that as an insult Kelly. I truly like you and miss you on that stupid show. You are and were great.
I really like and respect how much you’re both trying to be very fair and protect both friendships, while also being honest with both ladies and letting them know their faults in the situation. It’s a very hard situation to be in for you guys! You’re both handling it beautifully…
There is a huge difference between ‘I don’t like you’ and ‘everyone does not like you’. That’s where Megan crossed the line.
Agree
Agree!!!!
Absolutely
Exactly
True! That makes it bullying
As stated, you met Jeff through Heather. Other chumps that came from Heather: Julie, Brandy, Lala, Fortune..and Megan wants to complain about “sharing friends.” Hypocrisy! Seems like Heather has no problem sharing and seeing others succeed!
Megan made Heather feel like EVERYONE hates her secretly. That’s a terrible feeling to think you can’t walk into a room of friends comfortably. So sad for anyone to go through
FACTS I ESPECIALLY DIDNT LIKE HOW SHE TRIED TO THROW EVERYONE ELSE IN THE MIX BY SAYING NOBODY IN THE GROUP REALLY LIKES YOU WHICH TO ME IS REALLY FUCKED UP..
It reached the point of being abusive.
@@polly6281 because you know her … ?
@@polly6281 actually I have met her, bought.
I agree. It will never be the same even after she apologizes.
Rick being honest is saying how you feel. Being a bully is saying everyone in the groupfeels that way..... Megan was a bully. She didn't just say "I don't like you" she said "the whole JLL group doesn' like you". That some nasty girl behaviour right there.
The jealousy is just too much from Megan. What a sad soul
Yep. Multiple people have said Megan is a bitch when they’ve met her in person and this just confirms she’s a miserable, jealous person.
Meagan is not “habitually” mean to people nor does she always seek harm on them. Heather is definitely not considered a “vulnerable” person. Calling her a “bully” is not accurate, and a strong word to use for someone who was being honest with her feelings.
But even Kelly said it’s true, that lots of people don’t like her.
@@christengomez1105 a lot of people don't like Kelly, so?
I believe Heather could handle the criticism from Megan, it was when she lumped all of the chumps in and that really broke her heart. Can you imagine appearing on JLL thinking you are one of the chumps and part of the group and then realizing that ‘everyone’ has been talking about you behind your back? How humiliating!
Heather has always shared about her personal life on Patreon. Why should she protect Megan?
Btw, she never asked her fans to go after anyone, she has a loyal fan base of people who are rooting for her but also are fans of JLL.
I can't imagine what it feels like to hear everyone hates you. Especially if it's a group of people that you think you get along with. This should've been a one on one conversation between the two of them. Megan should have said hey Heather, let's meet for coffee. I need to talk to you about something. And there would have been a different outcome.
It was terrible. Megan just couldn’t stop until she “put Heather in her place” which Megan clearly thinks is beneath her. Megan cannot acknowledge the fact Heather has accomplished so much through hard work and hustle. Not riding somebody else’s coattails.
@@Renee933facts
Maybe Megan was right? The truth hurts!
Yeah fuhck Megan and anyone on that show that smiles to her face and talks ish behind her back. I used to watch Jeff on Bravo a hundred years ago but I wouldn't have even known about Jeff's podcast if it weren't for Heather so I'm happy she shared this with us so I won't tolerate all those chirping pick me's on JLL
If you follow Heather at all you know that she was really burned by the lies that Chelsea spread about her. She was not going to let such an unfair event be out there for anyone else to spin. I applaud her for sticking up for herself.
Good point !
I totally agree.
Yep
Absolutely!!
Yes they r trying to silence a victim typical
Kelly, if this happened to you, you would not just take it and be silent. You would call the person out in a public forum as you have before regarding Tamra, Heather Dubrow, etc. Heather MacDonald is super upset. I don't even have patreon, but on Juicy Scoop, she started crying. She was also very clear that you guys were not there when this went down so people wouldn't think you were involved in what happened.
So true. Kelly would tell it all and stand up for herself. Heather has every right to tell her side.
Exactly!!!
I just said I would’ve done the same thing .
@@kellyleventhal Megan should have just met Heather for coffee, and say I need to talk to you about some thing. Having this conversation at your home where there were other people involved, that's where It went wrong. Heather should have waited to put the Patreon out however, I think Heather was playing offense. She told her story before Megan got to tell it. Kelly I know when you say it, it's the truth. I think you'll have to navigate separate friendships. I would never accept an apology from her. I'm not as gracious as you and I'm just too old for this drama. Lol
I believe Heather should walk away FAST from this entire group of “friends” they aren’t loyal AT ALL.
No way do I believe that Megan didn't have access to a phone to contact Heather, even if her own was "dead". She has kids! You know that she is going to have a way for her kids to contact her. I call BS on that excuse.
Megan is 100 percent wrong. If she had something to say to Heather . it should have been between the two of them .not in your home.
So Right,
Sometimes you gotta take care of Mooch in the moment ! To end the mooches ! PERIOD.
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The lies it obviously it needed to happen
They were drinking…. Of course it’s going to come out then, they call the the truth syrup for a reason….. Megan’s way of going about it was wrong yes but if that’s how she feels then that’s fair….
Everyone else can talk about it but not Heather? It happened! She has the right to speak about it. If Megan doesn’t want the repercussions she shouldn’t have been so awful. In todays world we NEVER tell someone, “nobody likes you.” Horrible behavior.
Agreed. I don't think anyone should be told what Megan said, not even a person's worst enemy. There is no point to it other than to hurt someone.
Honestly, Heather had no choice but to get in front of the narrative. She was told everyone at JLL hated her so it’s understandable that she would assume it’d be talked about on the radio show.
LOL! That’s rich. Rick and Kelly criticizing Heather for going public with her story! “Bullying behaviour” in their opinion. 😂😂😂😂😂. Then Kelly slipped and called all the fans “the minions”. Sometimes the truth serum slips out. Signed, an x “minion”.
I caught that too
I laughed when Rick was listing out all the ways that Megan wasn’t a bully- one was “she isn’t bigger and stronger than her”. I think he’s thinking of a cartoon version of a bully 😂
😅 is😅😅
Jeff talks about everything on the radio, he was absolutely not going to keep it private forever. Heather had every right to post a personal story in her Patreon and promote it. You guys do that all the time! Also, it wasn’t a heart to heart if you’re drunk and telling someone you don’t like them. A heart to heart is saying “here’s what bothers me, can we work on this, etc”
This sounds like high school. At our age we should be past this nonsense.
Man I would not sit the fence on this one. Period. Heather was verbally attacked at your home. She left in tears. Wtf
I agree 100%. Who would want to hang out at Rick and Kelly’s knowing that if something got out of hand at their house, they wouldn’t step in and end it? Sheesh. Awful.
seriously? our home is a happy place. we can't monitor everyone all the time... but we did our best
@@TheRickKellyShow Nah, you witnessed an argument...at your home....then made a conscious decision to walk away and NOT monitor it.
@@TheRickKellyShow I’m just saying that I would not want that to escalate and especially if it seemed that one person was more the aggressor. But I’m sure it’s a tough spot to be in. I just know Heather and she’s so kind and supportive and I think Megan WAY overstepped 🤷♀️
@@TheRickKellyShow also, I don’t think she had a choice but to share what happened. It would have absolutely been discussed on JLL podcast and she deserved to get her story out there. If Megan wanted it to be a private matter she should’ve talked to Heather in private.
Megan literally spoke for a group of people saying everyone hated her and belittled her. That is bullying.
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@@dollymadeson3963 agreed!
Amen. Rick missed the mark here big time
Heather is destroyed in her podcast- my Catholic girls school was nothing like this/ but the inner city public school friends I had described behavior like this /from 4th grade!!! This Megan is 4th grade drunken creep
Exactly. And her sister wasn’t there to defend her. Her sister was there and how embarrassing when someone is telling you that they think all these things of you and they don’t like you. It’s mean
The term “friend poacher” makes my skin crawl. We do not own our friends. We need all the help we can get making real connections in this world. We don’t have to enjoy everybody, but as soon as we start telling others who and how we can approach friendship we become exclusionary. Women can be horrible to each other, especially when they feel ‘their territory’ is threatened. We need to do better. This whole thing is really icky - especially for women in their 50’s who are also raising the next generation.
Right? Sounds like elementary school
To Jeff Lewis’s credit, he always seems happy when his friends become friends. It seems childish to be upset when someone enters your friend circle. Like Kelly said, the more, the merrier.
So Meghan took it upon herself to talk on behalf of all this people...at a party....and let Heather know how "they" all felt about her? All negative. Wow! If that is not bullying I dont know what is.
100% . Amen!
Yep 💯
THIS!!!! And then the others sitting there when it started "didn't want to hear it" as these two are saying and "when it the house". Looking for plausible deniability much? Stu sits there nodding his head and pumping Meghan up until she goes so far he got uncomfortable.... now he's crying because us fans are calling him out? Shut all the way up folks. You got exposed.
100 percent bully behavior!! If u are sincerely speaking ur feelings to a friend, the CARDINAL RULE is to NEVER speak for other people which denotes “ganging up mentality” or in simplistic terms: a classic BULLY. Megan sounds like a horrible person!
Well said Linda 👐🏻
You guys have clearly chosen sides. By Rick’s own definition in this very video, Heather was verbally bullied and as her host, you and the other guests did nothing to shut it down and instead, left the area so that Heather had to fend for herself with someone that you knew didn’t like her. If no one stepped in to squash it, especially my hosts, I’d feel bullied too - by all of you who watched me cry and did nothing.
WELL SAID…THEY HAVE CHOSEN SIDES CLEARLY.I LOVE HEATHER.WILL NEVER WATCH THIS ONE AGAIN
But Heather’s own sister was there and didn’t stop it either. She had an ally who didn’t step in, so why are you blaming Kelly and Rick? Besides, Heather and Megan are both grown ass women who should be allowed to work out their problems themselves. To jump in to “fix things” infantilizes them. I agree that Megan was mean and unnecessarily hurtful to Heather, but it wasn’t bullying.
I completely agree. It almost sounds like they were in on it and knew the ambush was going to happen before Heather even knocked on the front door. If I was a host and one guest was bullying another and being downright cruel, I wouldn’t just look around and then slip away because I felt uncomfortable. What about the other guest being unfairly attacked?
You guys met through Jeff, who puts all of his beef out to the public. I love Jeff but Heather had every right to put it out just like he does with his stuff.
@Jeff Lewis's Staff Sucks BEWARE Meghan I totally agree rick is two-faced
Absolutely
Jeff is NOT siding with Megan. She still hadn't called him when he did his show Monday!! Megan clearly can't handle her alcohol!!!
even tho this is so petty for 50 year olds to be doing you're so right cause Jeff his everything from Gage to Krista etc and I love Jeff
Jeff is the extreme bully - we all know that jeff is the source of meghan's confidence to spew this at heather
Heather is a really nice woman and her podcast is not malicious and Megan was just out of line. I’m in my 40s and this behaviour is just so deplorable. A Women tearing another women down at a nice friendly gathering is straight up mean. Jeff Lewis needs to dress down Megan who works for him for going after his friend and basically throwing him and his team under the bus. No one wants to be dressed down at a party by a drunk women.
Yeah, and listening to Jeff talking about this with Cynthia Bailey, He's soft pedaling Megan's role as the witch.
Jeff might have people worried about how they talk about them behide their backs now.
This behavior is truly deplorable to me too, a woman in my 30s. Can't even imagine what Kelly is thinking calling someone like that her dear friend.
This Megan took it upon herself to tell Heather that she doesn't like her and why but to tell her everyone doesn't like her either and why. If these others don't like Heather than let them tell her. I'm glad the whole batch got put in their place. This lady went way over the line. Apologizing doesn't correct anything that has happened. These people aren't little kids apologizing doesn't work. Heather can never go on jeff Lewis again thinking or knowing how others feel about her. Megan was definitely a bully
And on Brown Jordan furniture no less!!! Oh the travesty!!! (btw that's a dig at Kelli, not Heather or Megan)
We know who Heather is, don’t you worry. We love Heather! ❤
Rick you’re in the wrong! Heather has every right to share what happened to her just like you and Kelly do about your own life. What Megan did was horrible and she should have apologized immediately! Heather made it clear that she didn’t want her fans to go after any party so I don’t know why you’re thinking she’s trying to get her fans against anyone. Megan is being a Meangirl period !
especially when they show private text messages as "receipts"
Sorry but I completely disagree with them defending Megan. You can’t hide behind the argument that Megan wasn’t being a bully because she was being honest about her feelings. It’s about how she did it that makes her a bully. Heather is just standing up for herself, and she’s not doing anything that every other person with a podcast and some personal beef hasn’t done.
Yes she is honestly a bully
Couldn’t agree more 👍
Seriously like Jeff always puts everything on the radio. If it happened to Jeff, he'd put it on the radio. And Kelly would defend him 🙄
I’m no longer interested in podcasts or any entertainment sources from Jeff/Stu/Megan/Rick&Kelly/Mercedes. It’s not bc I’m team Heather it’s bc it’s gone to far from all of you. It happened in your home.
Were you there? Me neither.
The Heather hive is real and megan grossly underestimated that. Megan’s whole rant wasn’t appropriate. It’s OK to dislike someone that you work with in a professional setting and not tell them to their face. People do it every day it’s called being an adult. Megan actually needed this to knock her off her high horse.
Exactly!
Anyone who has a podcast is gonna speak on what happened to them, Jeff Lewis talks about EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE he has a problem with, as does TAM&TED, as does Kelly. That's just a thing now days😂
Just bc you can, doesn’t mean you should!
But he didn’t go into detail just his feelings and hoped they come together and talk.
I’m seeing that all over now too. Gossip. The one thing I was taught by my mother do not gossip. It backfires, stay far away from it. Just like party phone lines back in the day.
Many things should by kept private. Spilling tea is a huge subject now. And people actually pay to hear it. I hope they work it out. Peace & Love
Exactly! Jeff gets a pass because he’s a man! Let’s be honest. Heather is expected to stfu and keep it pretty.
Jeff attacks constantly his Ex Gage and gossips about his on/off BF Stewart. They are the lowest if the low.
I listen to JLL every single day. I really enjoy Megan and all of “the chumps”. I enjoyed listening to this perspective. But how is what Heather did any different than what Jeff does when he gets into an argument with one of his friends or even just a customer service employee? Heather shares her entire life with her listeners, same as Jeff. Megan, who is an employee of Jeff’s and makes money from his show weekly by him/ them spilling the tea about their personal drama- it’s fair game what Heather did. Every JLL fan knows if Jeff was Heather in this situation, Monday morning he’d be airing out all the drama to his listeners the same way Heather did. (You have to pay for both Patreon and Sirius XM- so technically both are “behind a pay wall”). As a fellow Catholic tribe member, sorry Megan but “an eye for an eye”. 😂🙏🏻
Love Heather and disagree with Rick she's not a bully. Megan had ample time to apologize for being really mean to Heather.
Yes a dead phone is no excuse. Nobody lets their phone stay dead all day.
She is being a bully
The excuse of her phone not being charged is what an 11 year old would come up with
She got a brand new BMW she can't even park correctly but forgot to get a phone charger, I am mean, come on . . . try to understand.
@@lino6451 Right‽ It’s 2023! Could she not find the cord for her Cricket flip phone?
It’s important to know who your friends are. ~Heather now knows!
exactly - wouldn't you rather know...
Completely disagree with the take on bullying. Telling someone no one in the group likes you is bullying. It’s isolating Heather so she never feels comfortable around the group again. I guess Megan is getting what she wants. Sounds like a bully to me.
Well said.
Agree
Kelly would know, she is the biggest bully of all
Absolutely!
So there is a bigger bully than Kelly, hmmm.
Team Heather all the way! She should’ve went public with this. She shares her life with her fans and this was something that hurt her deeply.
Meghan is asking everyone else not to invite Heather - that is absolutely bullying.
Lmao no it’s not 😂😂😂 not wanting someone you don’t like at a party you’re throwing is not bullying
Megan planned this trip. Obviously she did not want Heather on the trip. Heather should not be inviting herself or digging for info. Not bullying at all. Opening your mouth selling the story on your channel is bullying.
Everyone needs to grow up, they are like 50 , a mature person would not have a serious conversation when intoxicated
@@adk4419 I can understand Megan’s point on the trip, and she could have spoke to her about that without piling on how much she is unliked by her and a whole group of people. Finding out that a group of people are speaking bad about you behind your back while being nice to you in person, is very high school.
Anyone could read in the text from Kelly that Megan was the contact closest to Megan’s friend to ask about going on the trip. Heather must have picked up that Megan might not want her there and asked Patric instead. But if this scenario is close to the truth, why would Heather want to hang out with someone she suspects isn’t keen on her?
Is friend poaching even a thing? I love nothing more than when I introduce a friend to another and they become friends. Plenty of love to go around people. Sounds like Megan blindsided Heather and that’s not okay.
I’ve had so many “ friends “ that act like you’re poaching if you just click with their friends. They get SO SO jealous. It’s like obviously if I’m friends with you , I’d vibe with people your friends with too.
I love it when my friends become friends
I think friend poaching is when you introduce someone to a “friend” then that friend hangs with that person & leaves you out! Been there!
I love Heather and she’s never mean to anyone and shows up for everything. She’s a hustler and part of her comedy or improv acts is that she does have to mingle and meet people and she’s worked her ass off and if she doesn’t get out and about it would effect her job. She has worked extremely hard and made it far bc of that. Female comics have to hustle way harder than men and other women should support her and if you don’t care for someone you don’t have to talk shit.. either let them know what bugs you privately one on one or be an adult and be cordial. It’s not being fake it’s called being a grown woman and confronting someone while you’re drunk and belligerent is not the way to go. I disagree with Rick for the first time.. Heather has every right to use her platform just like Kelly does. You guys say stuff about personal things that happen everyday which is what you’re supposed to do. That’s why it’s your platform to speak out. Jeff does it also. I’m also sure this puts Jeff in a very uncomfortable position bc he works with both women and likes them both. I hate people that talk shit about others. Not the kind of people I want to be around.
It was on her Patreon, not her regular JS...
@Stefany Hyer Agree with everything you said. Not right to label Heather's ambition & work ethic this way. Also, it's not right to blast someone without any regard to the impact.
Also, Jeff Lewis Live is behind a paywall as well, I’m sure Sirius Xm got more subscribers.
100% agreed!
could not agree more!! they all use their platforms (juicy scoop, jeff lewis live, daily smash) to share their personal lives and speak on whatever issues arise around them. it comes off as hypocritical for you guys to be upset with heather for sharing her story on her platform.
not to age shame but by 50 years old a person should know not to bring up an emotional conversation while drunk. if meghan didn’t like heather that is completely valid. meghan is entitled to feel however she wants to, but it’s important to how her feelings are expressed. meghan coming from a place of hurt on top of already drinking all day wasn’t the best time to bring up her distain towards heather.
Heather was very adamant about not going after Megan and the Chump crew!
She was venting even though she was hurt very badly. She still doesn’t want to hurt anyone else. That is why she said do NOT go after Megan or the Chumps, She also said she resolved her differences with Jeff but it’s still very hurtful.
So basically Megan is jealous of heather entering your friend group and when she becomes close to certain individuals.
Why do ppl like Megan think that it’s ok to give their opinion or give someone their character? Who are they to do that ? And why do they think that it’s ok to assassinate someone and hide behind “ I was being honest “ no you have issues and should kept them to yourself. Work on you hun !
Heather going public was from a place of deep hurt and tbh she’s entitled to do so . And unfortunately she has exposed Megan’s true character which will get back lash but that really is Megan’s consequence of her actions and time to reflect on her actions.
Heather’s shows have brought me nothing but joy. It pisses me off that someone made my sunshine cry.
I’m sorry but Megan sounds like a not nice person. As an adult, you can’t just expect a friend not to like someone just because you don’t like someone. This Megan needs to grow up.
Yes!!!
Sounds like she (M) always sh!t talked Heather and turned people on her a while ago.
For sure!!! Catty as hell it sounds like some high school mean girl shit...ewww
mean drunk...
She’s sounds like something I would rather not say as it’s very impolite …
Okay I must say Kelly and Rick, you guys said it all perfectly and I 100% agree, excellent!! And who is Meghan calling an opportunist??? She hangs onto Jeff Lewis.
8:38 “But Megan’s like Oh God why is SHE here?” To say that about your bosses friend of 15+ years speaks volumes. She’s jealous that Heather infiltrated the group and must have other insecurities for her to attack her infront of a group.
Exactly! Heather is a delight and Megan was always a sour puss on Flipping Out. And she alwys acted like she was too good to be there. IMO
I think a lot of people don’t like her including Jeff. Not because of Megan. Megan should have 🤐 though.
You two were put in a very awkward position. Megan, knowing you are friends with Heather should never had confronted her in front of others. I could say more, as I see them both on Jeff’s podcast. but I’m not going there except to say, ZIP IT both of them. 🤐
Heather is true to herself. She hustled a lot. Meghan Weaver kisses Jeff ass because it’s her payscheck.
Another --thing how dare Heather want to have fun and be with various people. She is a wonderful person. I hope C she never has to see Megan again!
saw this on my google news feed, currently watching, team Heather all the way!
No Rick… Megan was being a mean girl. Heathers Patreon is her personal life. She shares things like that
Heathers platform is Juicy Scoop, Rick. Heather posting her feelings behind a paywall and telling how she felt is almost expected. I am completely behind Heather because she took the high road and all she did was say mean things were said to her and she never meant to hurt anyone. Heather has every right to talk about her life on whatever platform she wants because that is what her business is, literally her business, JUICY SCOOP, HELLO!!! As a paying Patreon member I would have been mad if she did not say something about it. Megan is clearly jealous for whatever reason and it is ok for her to say Hey Heather I am not really fond of you but it sounds like it went on a little bit too long and a lot more things were said that were personal and mean. Heather has every right to stand up for herself. Why should she shut up about it ? Put Kelly in Heathers place and let me know how that would go down.
Yep! Maybe Megan should have thought even more deeply into her decision to attack a woman who runs a successful podcast.
If this had happened to Kelly, you two would have blasted this on the Smash. This sounds like high school, Megan was cruel.
100,
Kelly is being playing like she doesn't get it. Had it happened to her, Look Out!
Lets us all not forget how she tortured Shannon EVERY chance she got and literally laughed at her crying. Kelly is a huge example of a mean girl and her pretending not to be in front of the man she was able to catch is laughable. After watching her on tv I know what a hypocrite is, bad mom by example is, exhibitionist is, mean girl is, etc. Those are the biggest ones ... don't have all day. Feel so sorry and embarrassed for her daughter.
I was 💯 thinking this!
Yuck… I’m so turned off of Kelly now & I actually liked her. They would be slamming anyone that crossed Kelly. Kelly just sounds like such an airhead & Rick sounds like a dope now, just slurping her bath water,
I had the exact thought…you said it perfectly!
Heather did not bully by going on her podcast. I heard her Juicy Scoop in which she discussed this. Heather just spoke about what happened and Heather's feelings. She did say that, at first Stu, was nodding along with Megan and suddenly Stu changed and told Megan that this was too much. Heather also started that Stu called her to check how she was doing.
It sounds like Megan demoralized Heather. Unless someone has behaved diabolically, there’s no reason to take them apart like that letting them know all the reasons you dislike them. She likely let her know everyone in their friend group disliked her as well. That’s not honesty; that’s just a hateful thing to do. And it is bullying, not just a conversation between two women.
“Her phone was dead”…what?! I laughed every time they said that. It’s 2023, no one has a dead cell phone for longer than they WANT a dead phone. Even if Cali was a week into a statewide blackout, Megan wouldn’t be walking around with a dead phone…🙄
I know, right? What a buIIshit excuse.
Rick, I respectfully disagree about your assessment of who displayed bullying behavior. Meghan went in hard not only speaking for herself but others. Stating how people talk about Heather behind her back. Perhaps it was the truth, but there can be truth in bullying. It does not make what she did right at all. Why shouldn’t Heather be able to speak her truth. I think you all would do the same on this platform if a similar situation took place.
I agree
Yes!
Everyone who has a podcast doesn't do it for free. This is Heathers job. Off course she would put it on Patreon. I bought her Patreon bc of this so she is smart!
Heather said that she has known Megan for 8 years, has done multiple dinners out, girls' trips and been on Jeff's podcast with her. Heather had NO IDEA Megan disliked her to the extent she does and was IN SHOCK to be on the receiving end of Megan's rant. Heather said that Megan implied that many people that work at Jeff's podcast feel the same way as Megan does about her. During part of Megan's "rejection speech" to Heather, Chef Stu co-signed the charges against Heather - to a point, then stopped. Heather was BLINDSIDED!
@@janoskydesigns and Kelly used that opportunity to say Heather lied.
@@aylemarshland5609 OK that is crazy. Jeff likes him.
@@aylemarshland5609 This is not Stu's fight. Why is he being blamed? What ever side he picked he would be dragged for it. Jeff wasn't there so he should not be criticizing anyone the way it went down. I'm sure he is not happy with Megan's behavior and speaking for the chumps.
Right. Abd they didn't hear the bulk of it
Also, Megan has stepped over Jeff’s boundary because this has stuffed up Jeff’s show. Heather is as valuable a guest as Brandy and Julie etc.
Heather said on her podcast (I think) today that she won't go back to Jeff Lewis live - poor thing #TeamHeather
Not anymore she said.
I am sure B & J and all of the other cross-over co-hosts will not choose a side. Do you think B&J Bought their own tickets to Adele or to VIP Universal Halloween Horror? Nah
@@KriSmit913 I heard Brandie once say on air that she accidentally butt dialled Heather loads of times and said something that might be innocuous but got my attention, “of all people to butt dial” and said it a couple of times. And MJ has said a few comments about HM which suggested to me she isn’t a fan.
@@Afrosukha My friend that is also a JLL fan noticed a few of those things as well and with Carrie and Monika also.
I wanted to add that having a dead cell phone is not excuse for not apologizing. She could have used Ben's phone, your phone, anybody's phone so no excuse.
I also don’t believe it. Kelly said she was texting Megan all day.
Megan was posting pictures so … was her phone dead.
Yeah, who had a dead phone for more than maybe an hour these days?! It’s impossible to not be able to charge your phone. Perhaps she has the Sunday scaries realizing what an ass she was but is too much of a mean girl to actually want to apologize so she acted like her phone was dead.
In person would have been even better
The chumps know better - as Judge Lauren Lake says “if you don’t know where you chargers are, you don’t know who you are!” 😂
Can't believe Kelly would consider anything private! Team Heather.
If anyone in my home treated my guest in the way Megan treated Heather, I would intervene immediately, not slither out of the room!
Yes and they should have asked Meagan to leave.
Exactly! They knew it was going to go down. Definitely these two are defending Megan.
I agree 100%.
Kelly doesn't slither. She was probably giving them the chance to talk it out. Don't say that about Kelly. I could care less about a stupid girl fight. But I love Rick and Kelly.
I agree. I would put a stop to that real fast and not try to play both sides of the fence.
The hypocrisy...Rick saying Heather is a bully because she went public with her beef...post it on instagram..isn't that what he and Kelly do for a living???
Heather did not tell us to do anything, we heard the hurt in her voice thats all. I also disagree with you guys saying heather is being a bully, completely inaccurate, she was attacked in front of a group and no one stood up for her, that hurts!! So she went to patreon, where she knows is a safe place, unlike at a friends house. Plus Heather is the one who has brought this crew together and now feels shunned at least I think thats some of it.
That's right!
Completely agree with this comment. When someone comes at you and says "we all think this" feels like gaslighting behavior. Megan agreed that she was "too harsh" but didn't call to apologize but was able to post her fun pics on IG.
They ALL tell their business publicly. Jeff lewis tells everything going on in his life on his radio show everyday. So I'm not surprised Heather spoke about it. I found it after posting this he spoke about it first on Monday on his radio show. Heather has even more right to go talk about it
The whole thing sounds cruel. Heather didn’t deserve to be ambushed like that.
Cruel is the word for sure
She had no intent to apologize. Period. Bullies dont apologize. If you don't like someone, tell them in private. Bullies do it publicly.
Rick, Heather did not rally her fans. People have free choice, but its was never mentioned or even hinted at. It's Heather's story and she can tell it. So it's a problem Heather told the world that Megan hates her - omg, the audacity. Heather owes Megan nothing. Hasn't Megan heard the phrase "don't start none won't be none"? Anyone that thinks she has a right to tell you "how I really feel about you" has an exaggerated sense of her own importance.
And yesterday when Kelly said she heard Heather was going to post about it on Patreon, you said Heather should talk about it, you hope she does, and then you can talk about it, LOL. So which is it - Heather should talk about it OR Heather is bullying because she talked about it?
You can be honest with someone without stepping out of line, and Heather said to please not go after anyone. She has the right to tell her piece.
To be your age… Speaking like a high school mean-girl trying to justify their actions… I’d be embarrassed for y’all if you weren’t grown. Team Heather. 💜
PS - and final thoughts - what did Megan expect Heather to say or do. “Gee Meghan, thank you for telling me that everybody hates me and they don’t want me on any of their trips and don’t like filming with me.” who cares who has the receipts and who asked who first etc. etc. - someone just tells you off to your face in front of several people and you’re supposed to say “thank you very much I think I’ll leave now”
I don't care who it is, it's inappropriate to bring this to someone's home. I'm surprised Rick and Kelly aren't disappointed in Megan. Rick, sometimes the Thumper rule is the way to go.
Same, Megan was the aggressor.
Megan wasn’t just sharing her feelings. She was saying everyone talked about and disliked Heather. Y’all are awful to support Megan on this one. I don’t always agree with Heather’s take on things, but she doesn’t deserve what Megan did or your support of what she did. Y’all are awful.
The most unbelievable part for me is that Kelly and Rick don't have iPhone chargers.
Yes !!!! What an idiotic reason not to call. Laughable.
Or, equally ridiculous is no one offered their phone for Megan to call Heather.
I don’t think you guys have the best interest for Heather either. Instead of trying to settle this, you are bringing out receipts and for what? To paint Heather in a bad light? When a person is already suffering push her down even more. Wow
Heather is a loving person who thought the JL crew was a safe space only to hear that they all hate her and think she’s a rude social climber, how heartbreaking it must have been. But she sounded so strong on her Patreon, I know she will rise above this and soar to even greater heights! ❤️
That's awful what Megan said to Heather, but is it true? Does the JL crew dislike Heather?; That's what I want to know.
I know bullies, Megan was mean saying these things. Who cares if Megan was getting stuff off her chest. Why make someone feel so bad, so you can feel bigger and better? WOW!
I just saw a fan post- Stu once said some unkind things about her to me… I met him and Jeff maybe a year ago. Stu was talking to me about Jeff’s Sirius radio negotiation. Heather is one of my favorite guests and told Stu they have such great chemistry on radio they could have a show together. Stu’s response has stuck with me since. He said, “ ugh not heather!! She is sooo competitive.” And told me she’s a social climber, blah blah. I was so shocked he would say that to a ‘fan’. If he’s saying that to me, it means he’s really talking some shit with his friends.
Oh snap. Scam likely strikes again. 🐍
Interesting! Andy Cohen dated Stu and said he didn’t like that he was a social climber.
You should tell Heather that story. What a Jeri for saying that to a fan. O don't want to listen to Stuff or Megan anymore. Megan always bragging about her add on to her house and all the famousppl she meets. What hypocrisy . Bullies.
Lol not Stu. He’s uses Jeff to social climb. Nobody knew who chef Stu before he dated Jeff.
I don’t like Stu I believe he has bad intentions with Jeff and Jeff deserves better. He was doing so much shady shit when they first got together and Megan needs to worry about all her nasty yeast infections and what’s going in and out of her mouth. Maybe she should keep her nasty mouth shut! Don’t come for Heather.. they are both bitches.. Stu and Megan!
People too often use “I’m just being honest” as an excuse to be mean. The truth is, you don’t have to be honest about your feelings to people all the time. You can just distance yourself.
Exactly. Rick is so off base.
Stu was agreeing with Megan at the beginning. But then it went too far & he felt bad. Stu told Heather that Jeff had told him they couldn’t invite her somewhere bc “no one likes her”. Why say that to Heather? It’s mean.
Jeff & everyone tells all their beef to everyone - why can’t Heather? She has every right. Megan can’t apologize for the things she said - there’s no going back from that 💩.
Well said.
Rick and Kelly on Monday: "Something went down and it wouldn't be right to talk about it. Oh, and it involved Heather". Rick on Monday "I hope she puts it on Patreon because then we can talk about it". Rick and Kelly on Tuesday/Wednesday: "She shouldn't have talked about it on Patreon."
Yeah! Wtf?!
Eeek I don’t think you guys should have spoken on this! Seem more like you’re on Megan’s side, Heather is allowed to share her life just as Jeff does and everyone else with a platform. Megan is a drunk, let’s call a spade a spade. You can share feelings without going low, and if she doesn’t think anything is wrong with her behaviour I’m sure she will do it to you guys too eventually. I guess only time will tell. Love you guys, Juicy Scoop & JLL but this is not right talking down to someone just cause you don’t like them.
I said I would’ve done the same thing and talked about it on my platform.
Definitely biased. They even knew Megan hated Heather and still had them together.
Megan put everyone in an awkward position for a long time talking about Heather to their mutual friends. Honestly I'd be upset with Megan for putting you in this situation and not being adult enough to spend time together. She should have had an adult conversation with her sooner and before all of this. I think Kelly handled this situation the best way possible. She didn't let Megan bully her into not spending time with Heather. It seems like Megan wanted all of her mutual friends to choose who they were spending time with (often leaving Heather excluded). That's upsetting.
Why did Megan did it a) in your house where she is a guest and made YOU feeling uncomfortable and b) in front of your guests? Why not being a grown ass woman and say to Heather: “Can I please talk to you in privat?! Wow! Just wow!
It was no “heart to heart”. It was Megan being vicious. Heather shared her personal life, had every right to speak it. I think Rick is being unfair about this, because you two share about your personal life. Heather said Stu was on her side. And she didn’t rally anyone, she said she didn’t want anyone saying anything to Megan.
"We wanted to keep this private." LOL LOL LOL
Rick, you’re absolutely WRONG. If Kelly was in Heather’s position you guys would be discussing it on the daily smash AND your patreon.
I said I would’ve talked about it !! I said that !!!
Exactly. Facts
Youre right, Rick, is totally wrong, Rick has daughters, I feel Rick, bullied Heather twice, once in his home, then when Heather spoke on her patreon.Calling her a bully, unbelievable. Have a good day !
I don't think it's come out how Megan acted after she ran Heather out of the little party. If Megan was crying it was only because she was hammered. I would love to know how much more she told to everybody still there and spun the story that she did nothing wrong
Thank you for your perspective Rick and Kelly, I'm still Team Heather!
Never heard of Meagan Weaver before this, don't care to hear about her ever again.
Both of you admitted that you didn’t hear the whole conversation. Heather is speaking from her point of view and she felt blindsided. To say that Meghans phone died and she wanted to call her earlier. Lame ass excuse. What, it takes less than 15 min to charge a phone. Come on.
I agree with most of what you all said. Except, Megan didn’t just speak about how SHE felt. She took it upon herself to be the voice of the “chumps” on FLL, that’s where I think it went left. IMO
*JLL
Yep, and Jeff said that he hates that. When someone lumps him in and says “ they” all ………
You are 100% correct
No one is that rude to someone by proxy. Megan has always seemed to have an issue with her.
I agree. That, in my opinion, is bullying behavior. I'm sure Megan was "going to call eventually," but it wasn't clearly a priority to her.
And btw, if Meagan is allowed to “be honest”, Heather can do what she wants with it. Rick, you have obviously never really been to therapy- it’s the first rule: You can do what you want, you don’t get to choose how I react to it. When you walked away, you co-signed Meagan’s monstrous behavior. You guys are backtracking & victim blaming. Now we get to react how we want.
Thanks for sharing. Rick. You’re a nice guy but you’re wrong. Heather isn’t a bully. Heather didn’t go public. It was behind a pay wall. I got the scoop from you guys.
Exactly ! I had no idea what went down. And if anything these guys made Megan and themselves look way worse then Heather did.
A mother does not have a dead cell phone for over 24 hours. I don’t agree with Megan’s lame excuse or face to face treatment of Heather.
Heather has the right to tell her side. Sorry but u guys are wrong. If she felt bullied that’s her right to say it. You guys should know that.
Megan is the worst! Glad you and Rick are such good friends to Heather! She really appreciates your friendship. Love Heather!
Hi Rick and Kelly, that put you guys in a bad situation, but Megan didn't just speak how she felt. If she would have stopped at that it would have been fine, but to tell Heather all the chumps don't like her, and nobody wanted her on the Disney trip, that's where the bullying came in. She said she was speaking for a crowd so yeah, that's bullying .
Yup!!! 💯
Jeff rallies people against everyone all day long and Megan encourages it as that is how she makes money, being a bully. Meagan is just a weak mean girl until she is a drunk then she’s a brave mean girl and none of you all shut it down.
ABSOLUTELY!
What would Megan do if someone spoke to her kid that way? She'd tell the story on the podcast!
Facts
💯
We ALL know that if Heather were a man, no one would blink an eye at self promotion, dismissiveness, or conversation dominating moments. Heather is upset bc she has been gaslighted about being left out of attending events. Example: Adele concert. She is on Jeff’s show, confronting him about how she suggested it, then they ignored her texts and went to Adele anyway. Jeff dismisses Heather’s concerns - on his show - & acts like he didn’t know and/or forgot (aka gaslighting Heather). Pretty sure the bullies are Megan and Jeff in this whole thing.
Thank you...that's what I think too. I can actually imagine Jeff telling Megan that somebody needs to tell Heather that you guys don't like her and then sit back and waits.
Megan was completely wrong in this. I understand everything Heather did. This was devastating to Heather. I don’t blame her. She did bully Heather. Her cruel , cringy jealous fueled thoughts were meant to hurt and harm Heather. Not uplift her or share privately how she felt. She could of done it another day just the two of them. If it was so needed. Megan is the bully as far as I see.
Lol a "dead" phone. No one in that house have a charger
16:10 if Heather didn’t RALLY us. She shared just like you share here and Jeff shares on radio. Megan didn’t share feelings. MW wants everyone to unfriend Heather. That’s a bully.
Rick....Heather gave Megan ample time to respond & hopefully apologize. Also, Heater did confirm that Stu, in the end, consoled her, but at first he didn't & that may be where the "bullying" feelings originated. No deadlines here. Its not the newsroom. Heather can say how she feels if she wants & she did not immediately post it. She waited.
Megan could have borrowed a phone, if it was important enough. That didn't happen either. And Megan could have always spoke to Heather in private....& that didn't happen either. Sad situation. Don't know why Megan chose to "burn bridges". Megan is the one who calls friends "my people" which shows her true colors. Also, life is not about the number of followers someone has. IMO-Megans actions do not = a "strong woman" at all. How u make people feel is what is the issue.
You don’t do that around others. It’s like a married couple that yells at each other in public. I’m glad heather stood up for herself…
I think Heather is hilarious and extremely successful. I felt awful for her this morning. I think that Kelly or Rick, being the hosts, should have diffused the situation, and told Megan to go to sleep and the next day they could talk about it calmly. I think leaving the two women with Chef Stu was absurd because, God bless him, he is extremely dense. Oh well, what a weekend for all parties involved!
Heather is standing up for herself.
Yep and they are gaslighting her for telling the truth. No Megan IS a bully and a drunk.
@Bye Mom Why? According to Heather Stu was the only one to stick up for her.
Exactly!!
@Bye Mom Why? He did nothing wrong. Now your being a bully‼️
@Bye MomYOU ARE BULLY
I like the Rick & Kelly Show. I've been watching it for months -- and will continue to watch. But I have to say I am disappointed by this episode because I don't think R&K were fair to Heather. Personally I don't think it's bad for Heather to talk about what happened on Patreon -- or anywhere else. But let's say it is a horrendous thing to do. That still doesn't undo how poorly Meagan treated Heather by saying negative things to her in a social setting where everyone should feel welcome and treated respectfully. If it is true that Meagan decided to tell Heather about Heather's faults at a social get together, Meagan should apologize -- sincerely --- from the bottom of her heart.I doubt that will happen. I suspect Meagan is too proud to admit she was rude and treated another human with profound disrespect. I also suspect that Meagan is WILDLY jealous of Heather. There really is no other reason she'd be hyper concerned about Heather and whom Heather pays attention to. That's such a shame. On a couple of occasions I've felt jealous -- only to find out later that I really liked the person I foolishly felt envy about. PS Kelly I don't think Heather is particularly sensitive. Fact is she couldn't be a stand-up comedian if she were. I think sometimes people who are insensitive choose to call others sensitive as a deflection. Please don't take that as an insult Kelly. I truly like you and miss you on that stupid show. You are and were great.
Wasn’t Heather was told nobody likes you and nobody wants to you around? That’s mean and hurtful especially in front of a group of friends
I really like and respect how much you’re both trying to be very fair and protect both friendships, while also being honest with both ladies and letting them know their faults in the situation. It’s a very hard situation to be in for you guys! You’re both handling it beautifully…
I think a level of kindness when delivering the truth is wonderful. Don’t think that is what happened.
Megan is totally wrong. This is a conversation that should not have been discussed in a group. Megan was " smashed". 😮