Heroic Interview: So Good They Can't Ignore You with Cal Newport
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2016
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Want to get so good they can't ignore you? (Me, too!) Cal Newport tells us we need to shift from a passion mindset to a CRAFTSMAN mindset as we become true masters of our craft and create a ton of value in the world. We do "that" and we'll accumulate what Call calls "career capital" that we can cash in for the ideal setup. Another Big Idea: Figure out how you can deliberately practice!
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Passion doesn't mean only doing something you like, it means consistently working towards a goal. This might involve doing things you don't like, but that is what true passion is.
Don’t mind me, just back for another listen. Need a refresher
listened again and I think there is a lot of commonality in thinking - with so many choices (overwhelm to the point of inactivity), follow what we like to do (a glint of inspiration, at least?) and move forward to gain the experience and skills. Essentially, starting with natural TALENT (not skill) and build SKILLS/the craft. Oh, and setting goals for expansion - which is growth - even if not quantifiable/measurable (?).
Thanks for sharing! -Zak | Team Optimize
Big fan of Cal Newport's work and I enjoy the way you manage the interview great work and thank you!
+LonelyBookaneer Thank you!!
Utterly fascinating amen!
Late bloomer here.
Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
thank you so much
Inspiring talk
The cultural issue is not that people hate work. It's that their work hates them/people feel at odds with their work or antagonized by their job whether it's overstretching their abilities or underutilizing them. When people are misaligned in values or skills to their companies, there's never going to be true passion, so people seek to escape through leisure because they don't know that meaningful work can be a reality or pay the bills.
Also I would disagree that in knowledge work, "nobody" is doing deliberate practice. Ask anyone who works for a tech company in Seattle as an app developer or web designer or advertising/internet marketing professional or even just debuggers at Unity or Microsoft. I think they have to practice new stuff all the time.
Thank you for your insights. For me now there's a disconnect between what I'm good at and get paid to do (my life for the past 40 years) vs. exploring what I'd like to do and finding a way to earn a living doing that, in a joyful productive manner (no manipulating through marketing). I'm believing for revelation in this endeavor.
I'm not sure I understand completly the idea. If I have this passion mindset and say: I want to be a writer, this will bring *me* joy and satisfaction. Then I start putting the work of reading and writing and end up becoming a writer, isn't it the same thing as the craftman mindset?
+SeiryuNanago Your comment caught my eye. I agree with your point. When it comes to building careers that we love and that allow us to achieve a sense of mastery, I think Cal is leaving out massive pieces of the puzzle.
For instance many people who have excelled in all sorts of careers did so because they found something they loved, were naturally good at, and then spent most of their time and energy doing that for a long time!!!
So in my opinion, there's a lot to be said for finding something we're passionate about AND that we have some natural strengths in. Passion + natural ability + long term dedication = excellence at a craft that we love.
Furthermore, I think Cal underestimates how much people are naturally suited to certain crafts / careers. I believe we each have an essential nature and that a big part of our personal growth is discovering the truth of who we are and honouring that in our lives. For instance I've discovered that I'm a natural teacher and I enjoy teaching. So that's one of the main things I do. I'm also a natural coach and enjoy coaching people so that's one of the other main things I do. Teaching + coaching = how I spend most of my time.
One point Cal makes which I do agree with is that to excel in anything we need to cut out a lot from our lives and become quite minimalistic when it comes to how we spend our time. Focusing on just a handful of things consistently is the path to mastery for sure. And as Cal alluded to, this usually means living our lives very differently from how most people live (which also means we reach levels of fulfilment and professional excellence that most people never reach :- )
Awesome interview! Thanks Brian
+BananaMuffin thanks!
love this!!
+Rachelle Bacong Thanks!
Wow - I have some major disagreements, here. Are you equating the person with the "passion" mindset with the purpose driven mindset? The purpose driven person wants to GIVE, not get. And purpose-driven people want to use their gifts - in whatever they choose to do for a career. Building on THAT over time creates (or continues) passion - I'll give you that. You can't build passion from nothing. Did Cal get into computers because of what he could give? or was there a glimmer of interest/inspiration first? If we don't first start with a little bit of connection, or inspiration, or excitement, I don't care what skills you build, it'll fall flat over time. I see it in my clients every......single......day. I'm going to listen again with the intention of how I connect with the information, rather than how I don't. Round two coming up! :0)
Thank you for your comment Lauren!
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If I ever met Cal Newport, I'll probably give the angriest manliest props for teaching me without ever meeting me what I need to do to achieve my objectives. I'll probably tap his shoulder so hard he'll backflip or something.
I'm too passionate, I'll be so grateful that I'll want to hug him and break a rib or something.
It's not about that. Have you ever thought about feeling something so strongly it might shoot out dangerously if it manifests phisically? Also, Prof. Newport is tiny. The solution is, get to a safe distance and do a japanese bow, and pray not to hit him with your head because it would go down with bludgeoning speed because I respect him so hard.
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