Next Gen KTM 390 will be something to wait for I guess will be 3-4 years ahead of any bike in the current Indian adv market with better practicality & performance
@@rohitashsinghnag2208 womp womp, u can not expect excellent quality, features at cheaper price. RE is pricing Himalayan low but it's coming with few serious problems like right pull, uneven dampening of front suspension, improperly torqued bolts on clutch and engine casing, loose spoke etc. Unlike Himalayan, KTM comes with Fully adjustable suspension. Next gen is going to be based on Dakar Rally platform. And no one has ever done that in this segment. So yeah it's expensive but it's worth it.
@@metaversewr8827 no bro iam talking specifically about 390 adventure X because it gets suspension unit from 250 adventure not the standard 390 adventure
@@ayushman2347 yeah, still it isn't bad? Recently test drive all varients of 390 adventure, they were pretty good, may not be very good for intense off-roading but otherwise decent
In my humble opinion Tubed Tires on a offroad machine are the best, because Tubeless tires require a Rim that has a particular inner shape to stop air from leaking, which is a problem because in many cases you might end up bending the Rim which will empty your tubeless tire.
Be it performance, features, suspension, or handling, the 2025 390 ADV will easily beat the Himalayan 450 in almost all regards. The Indian ADV scene is about to get even more exciting.
However, I also think that it would be a lot more expensive than the Himalayan, and the LC4C makes less torque than the Sherpa 450, so let's see how it turns out to be.
The latest Himalayan 450 is way too better than the previous one..and till date it's the best value for money adv bike to get on market. But it's true that the upcoming ktm 390 adv will set a new level for the Indian market.
Rode the Himalayan for a multi day trip and man this is an awesome machine. The new ADV390 needs to be fantastic on and off road and priced right to compete with the Himalayan.
@@virajvrooms No but priced well doesn’t mean cheap! It just has to be value for money. If ex-showroom is 50k more but has spoke wheels, more power, better electronics, lighter than Himi and is equally capable, that’s a great deal!
@@adr2567 The KTM ADVs won't come cheap. Most genuine accessories fall under power parts which again won't be cheap in India. I don't see the Indian version having a tubeless spoked wheel stock. Had a chance to check the test mule up close in a fuel pump in Chakan a few months ago. The standards are top notch. From welding to plastics to the swing arm.
KTM still has an upper edge, the standard variant is 57k expensive than Himalayan top model, it has a lot of features which makes it the best tourer and an okaish off road machine in the market and honestly off-road shouldn't be much of a concern as how many off roads are there, very few, and yes pot holes don't count any bike can handle them. You get bi directional quick shifter, traction control, cornering ABS and less weight by almost 20kG. Practically speaking KTM is simply way better than Himalayan.
+1 to that, after doing 40 thousand km on adv i can surely say that it is a far better tourer. The difference in price is justified, because of the touring focused features and the light weight.
You're comparing practical all round machine with stand, tank gaurd, engine gaurd, luggage plate and radiator guard which is not standard on ktm adv. Remove all weight will reduce. You should rural district roads nothing less than offroadz when your touring.
@@Rahul-kp6wnNope. Our rural kaccha roads are way better to what you find in the US and Europe. So please stop classifying our rural roads as off roads. Off roads actually mean trails where clear roads don't exist. So just like refinement is not a factor here as per Schumi, off roading is not at all a factor here. The real off roaders are way lighter and torquier than these two. All boils down to which one is a better all rounder. The 390 does things that Himi simply can't dream of. It's agile as a Duke in cities, Comfortable as a GT on highways and Good Soft roader when you are not commuting on tar roads. Himalayan is heavy and stiffer to operate. The only barrier is the price which I don't guess anyone seriously interested in buying the KTM ADV has a problem with. Every owner craves some exclusivity. The price and seat height of the current gen automatically serves as a barrier for most to buy.
390x with tubeless alloy is 15k cheaper than Hima450 in my city, but it looks very weird. I liked the 411 look but this 450 in light color looks bigger
The biggest concern with Himalayan is the reliability of the product. There are lots of issues now coming up like consent issue, bolt issue and many more. This is now the biggest roadblock in buying Himalayan since one definetly need a reliable product which in this comparison is ktm adventure which is from long time in market and is much more reliable then re..
I love that bike. RE simply should have not stopped the 411. With the 450 they have created an incomplete machine. Neither tech loaded like KTMs nor value for money like the 411.
I'm seriously considering getting the Adv X over the new Himalayan by Diwali time. I need an Adv spec bike for touring purposes. I've heard/read a lot of bad things about the new Himalayan for example, the right side pull (which exists on all RE bikes), Tubed tires, overweight and overall build quality. Meanwhile on the other hand people say the Adv 390/250 is just a street bike with Adventure suspension. Not sure what to do now 🥲 might end up buying a Dominar 400 and save myself some good money.
Whichever bike you have on your wishlist, just go and test ride it. Test rides don't last for a while, so consider renting bikes that you liked the and finalize the ones that you liked the most. That really is the only way to find out which bike is suitable for you. I have ridden the Himalayan 450 and I liked its aggressive acceleration style, but the vibrations are kind of a deal breaker for me. I own the CB350 Highness, but since you've mentioned Dominar, I'd recommend that you go ahead with it, because it is quite an underrated machine. Only downside I've heard from the owners is service. Good luck man and let us know which bike you get :)
You really have to 1st write down your requirements, check for showroom & service center, then get info on quality of those service center, finalize an common ground or patch of road with uphill and downhill section where you can TD both bike one after other, then you will have clarity. Also check parking these parking on inlcine or downhill to get idea.
Nows the time _not_ to buy the Adventure 390 at all, Karthik. The new one will be coming soon, and we're expecting that to be great - this one is not (see: ruclips.net/video/_zFkPwTfg_Y/видео.htmlfeature=shared). That makes the Himalayan the one to buy from your list (see: ruclips.net/video/N8ff7xB1Ze8/видео.htmlfeature=shared)
Maybe you should have waited for the new 2025 duke adventure 390 and then compared it with the new himalayan. Then it would have been a better comparison.
@arunabhdas5010 because the present adv 390 borrows the previous gen 390 duke's engine so that's why some people (including myself) often call it duke 390 adventure.
@@Dushyant933 ...true ...bcoz many manufacturers use the same engine in their separate classes of bikes street naked ... ADV......faired sport.....even cruisers .... but the most commonly combined name is " ktm duke adventure "..... You'll never find anyone calling the mt r15....inspite of identical engines..... Gurus can throw more light...
There's no single recommendation for everybody at MotorInc @syedajas3652. What we'd suggest you to do is, make a list of the motorcycles that you're interested in, take test rides of all of them, pay attention to what you feel about each of them, and then come back to us with your observations, if that's necessary! Usually, from your test rides alone you'll know what would work for you! Good luck and do ping us if needed.
There are lots of issues with quality of Himalayan as a product are coming up. For example the cone set issue, even with bike as new as one day old has also been seen with the same. The quality of bolta used are also a question now. Have you come across any such issue?
The only thing that will make me avoid the 390 adventure is the seat height. My height is now 5"7" from 5"6", and it is not enough to get my legs down in the 390 adventure. Also the engine, that could have been tuned for this adventure machine, it's same as the Duke 390 in tune, that should have been differentiated.
We agree with the engine part Taranshu. We're hoping that the next update addresses concerns like this. As for the height, Shumi is of the opinion that it is something you can overcome, if you can take the time to practice patiently. We'd suggest not avoiding it just because of that.
3rd point is absolutely correct 😂. Royal Enfield dont have a rival in their chassis 🤣. Be it UCE Bullet, UCE Classic, Himalayan 411 and this model Himalayan 450. Nice chassis 💥😂👍
Hello MotorInc in today’s date Himalayan also got the option for tubeless spoke-wheel setup so What would you suggest me Himalayan 450 or KTM Adv 390…. Height and weight of both the motorcycles are not an issue for me
We'd pick the Himalayan if you have to get one right now @nadikmayapthomi789, but if you can, wait for the next Adventure. Then test ride both and decide!
I own a 2021 dominar 400 and i love living with it❤ But now Im in the middle of a place where I love both the new adventure x and the new himalayan 452. Im a tall 6.2ft and sub 100kg😅 guy and I use it for daily office commutes, weekend runs 60-70kms mostly in and around the city and do occasional long highway runs. Should I go for the RE or the KTM and if thats KTM, should I wait for the new adventure 390 ?
If u are going to use it as a daily commuter and sometimes little trips to mountains I will suggest ktm because of the smaller front tyre it makes your bike more nimble on sharp turns, it's easy to maneuver while trying to have a race against time while going to office while himalyan will require u too slow down a little bit , but u will surely enjoy the low end of himalyan. If you want to have one bike garage u have to make compromises. But if you are open to two bikes I will suggest Himalayan and Aprilia 457 best pair according to me. As u said u already have dominar and if u want to keep that dominar I will suggest Himalayan, totally different bike different character, u will love switching between Dominar and Himalayan, it will just add a different feeling will doing a daily commute.
There is no fix for that! The chassis seem to be breaking due to the faulty bolts snapping out. You need to keep an eye on those bolts all time and keep tightening with a torque wrench.
Today Himalayan got tubeless now ktm needs an update for engine new 390 and Power to weight ratio ktm will fly ... For touring ktm may be faster theoretically 😅
We didn't. Not that the Adventure is super light, but weight is one thing you can get used to with time. Think about it, Srivatsa, if you think you won't get used to weight, you'll never be able to ride faster/larger/more premium machines, right?
Looks like the Himalayan's chassis breaking was due to improperly mounted crash guards @sarangpathak4623. For the G450, we don't know yet! Will have to wait and see.
Hey Zach! Indian law requires the bikes to have a grille there to prevent the saree, a flowing garment Indian women wear, from going into the wheel/chain etc. So that's why that rack. It's not very heavily enforced so a lot of riders who don't have a lot of saree-wearing pillions will often remove them post purchase
I just got the ADV, because my 50-year-old knees can’t deal with my Duke anymore, especially over long distances. They should have just called the ADV the Tall Edition of the Duke. Because that’s exactly what it is.
@@motorinc we can agree to disagree on this ☺️. I never intend to go offroad -- it's the ergos that I'm after. The Himalayan simply doesn’t work for me -- it doesn't have the sense of speed and control that I've grown used to. The ADV, on the other hand, is a blast. Reminds me of my younger self on the OG 390.
Shumi hasn't found anything wrong during his testing @johmmycheems6139. We've ridden three different units so far and the one we've ridden the longest is at ~2,000km
What about reliability mate, I have used 3 different bikes from royal Enfield personally along with a Honda and a Suzuki and all I can conclude is RE only stands for Rubish Engines.. apart from that RE service guys are less skilled than road side mechanics and maintenance is unreasonably costly..
New himalayan just doesn't look good, atleast the older had some character, this looks bad i guess, I think even scram was a better machine overall. I was thinking of buying this one but now it just doesn't feel right.
Himalayam is too heavy it is bad for an offroader. Honda CRF 300 ralley is a perfect and reliable offroad machine if lauched in India. Himalayans engine is not a proven thing either the chassis. two of My friends having classic 350 UCE resulted in broken chassis. They rented a bike from delhi for touring it also had the same fate. KTM is a proven machine with very good power to weight ratio and feature loaded so worth the money paid.
On paper the ktm has better specs for sure but when it comes to do adv bike things like off-road riding and cruising on the road , ktm throws me over the bar while off-roading and is simply too aggressive naturally for crusing comfortably. In short KTM= street bike with adv clothes HIMALAYAN= Tube tires Choose your poison
Which makes the ADV 390x the most practical decision as of now. (Tubeless setup, settled down vibrations at highway speeds, Himalayan tends to buzz a lot at 90-110, lighter weight to easily move around in city and in trails). The Himalayan should only be considered when it comes with tubeless setup. 🥲
Wish to connect with biking community Cant understand most of the things u guys are saying especially the practical riding experience For now ,all i have now is activa 😅
Happy to have you here @dayanandmayya7730. If you want to know more about motorcycles, keep watching us and feel free to leave us comments when you have questions.
Next Gen KTM 390 will be something to wait for
I guess will be 3-4 years ahead of any bike in the current Indian adv market with better practicality & performance
It's price would also be 3-4 years ahead in terms of inflation in comparison to other bikes 😂😂
5 lac atleast
@@rohitashsinghnag2208 womp womp, u can not expect excellent quality, features at cheaper price.
RE is pricing Himalayan low but it's coming with few serious problems like right pull, uneven dampening of front suspension, improperly torqued bolts on clutch and engine casing, loose spoke etc.
Unlike Himalayan, KTM comes with Fully adjustable suspension.
Next gen is going to be based on Dakar Rally platform.
And no one has ever done that in this segment.
So yeah it's expensive but it's worth it.
@@rohitashsinghnag2208 true but worth it tho, ktm should not discontinue their current models so we have both 3.5 lakh option with the 4 lakh option
@@flexiwing4450itna nhi hoga
Yamaha nhi hai wo
Actaully adventure 390 X would be a better choice if someone is interested in highway touring, office commute and mild offloading.
@@ayushman2347
That's a big misconception, its actually still great, but Himalayan is better obviously
@@metaversewr8827 no bro iam talking specifically about 390 adventure X because it gets suspension unit from 250 adventure not the standard 390 adventure
@@ayushman2347 yeah, still it isn't bad? Recently test drive all varients of 390 adventure, they were pretty good, may not be very good for intense off-roading but otherwise decent
completely disagree
I have KTM 390X for office travel and touring only and happy with it. Just it stalls in busy traffic.
In my humble opinion Tubed Tires on a offroad machine are the best, because Tubeless tires require a Rim that has a particular inner shape to stop air from leaking, which is a problem because in many cases you might end up bending the Rim which will empty your tubeless tire.
@@segsfault true
Yes
Be it performance, features, suspension, or handling, the 2025 390 ADV will easily beat the Himalayan 450 in almost all regards. The Indian ADV scene is about to get even more exciting.
That would be good for consumers @viggtensen4293.
However, I also think that it would be a lot more expensive than the Himalayan, and the LC4C makes less torque than the Sherpa 450, so let's see how it turns out to be.
@@derkonig2292 factsss
I hope ktm go all in on the offroad factor, xpulse simply doesn't cut it anymore
What about price difference
It's simple really,
The Himalayan is a better off-roader while the ktm is a better on-road bike (Mainly handling).
The latest Himalayan 450 is way too better than the previous one..and till date it's the best value for money adv bike to get on market. But it's true that the upcoming ktm 390 adv will set a new level for the Indian market.
I will wait for next gen himalyan
Minimum 5 years wait then
@@AbhishekKumar-yd6ei for what you waiting
I just got a himalyan and its just amazing. Get one
Now that the tubeless spoke wheels are available on the Himalayan, its simply better
KTM ADV is all time best for touring with pillion, suspension and handling is simply superb , torque and top end simply best in it's segment.
Thanks for letting us know @santhosharadhya2045.
Chassis Breaking Of Himalayan Should Also Be Considered. It Had Happened To More Than 1 Person On Exactly Same Spot Is Very Concerning.
We're waiting for more information from Royal Enfield on this @JoelDmello722. Please stay tuned!
Rode the Himalayan for a multi day trip and man this is an awesome machine. The new ADV390 needs to be fantastic on and off road and priced right to compete with the Himalayan.
Couldn't agree more!
The KTM won't come cheap. So stay happy with REs.
@@virajvrooms No but priced well doesn’t mean cheap! It just has to be value for money. If ex-showroom is 50k more but has spoke wheels, more power, better electronics, lighter than Himi and is equally capable, that’s a great deal!
@@adr2567 The KTM ADVs won't come cheap. Most genuine accessories fall under power parts which again won't be cheap in India. I don't see the Indian version having a tubeless spoked wheel stock. Had a chance to check the test mule up close in a fuel pump in Chakan a few months ago. The standards are top notch. From welding to plastics to the swing arm.
@@virajvrooms May not be cheap but can’t see it being exorbitantly priced, they know KTM has a huge market in India for ADV if they price it right.
KTM still has an upper edge, the standard variant is 57k expensive than Himalayan top model, it has a lot of features which makes it the best tourer and an okaish off road machine in the market and honestly off-road shouldn't be much of a concern as how many off roads are there, very few, and yes pot holes don't count any bike can handle them. You get bi directional quick shifter, traction control, cornering ABS and less weight by almost 20kG. Practically speaking KTM is simply way better than Himalayan.
Great, you know what you want then!
+1 to that, after doing 40 thousand km on adv i can surely say that it is a far better tourer. The difference in price is justified, because of the touring focused features and the light weight.
You're comparing practical all round machine with stand, tank gaurd, engine gaurd, luggage plate and radiator guard which is not standard on ktm adv. Remove all weight will reduce. You should rural district roads nothing less than offroadz when your touring.
Why do Indians hate their own brands so much...?
@@Rahul-kp6wnNope. Our rural kaccha roads are way better to what you find in the US and Europe. So please stop classifying our rural roads as off roads. Off roads actually mean trails where clear roads don't exist. So just like refinement is not a factor here as per Schumi, off roading is not at all a factor here. The real off roaders are way lighter and torquier than these two. All boils down to which one is a better all rounder. The 390 does things that Himi simply can't dream of. It's agile as a Duke in cities, Comfortable as a GT on highways and Good Soft roader when you are not commuting on tar roads. Himalayan is heavy and stiffer to operate. The only barrier is the price which I don't guess anyone seriously interested in buying the KTM ADV has a problem with. Every owner craves some exclusivity. The price and seat height of the current gen automatically serves as a barrier for most to buy.
I think 390 adv x brings the two closer in terms of price and hence would make for an amazing comparison!
390x with tubeless alloy is 15k cheaper than Hima450 in my city, but it looks very weird. I liked the 411 look but this 450 in light color looks bigger
HImalayan has tubeless spoke tires now!
When is the full review of HIMALAYAN 450 coming?
It's already out. Maybe not it is member only
It is there in the motorinc first playlist
It is for members only
True true true for the seat comfort of adv 390 it’s the best
Yes, that's one area where it's unbeaten @bikerspiritabi.
The biggest concern with Himalayan is the reliability of the product. There are lots of issues now coming up like consent issue, bolt issue and many more. This is now the biggest roadblock in buying Himalayan since one definetly need a reliable product which in this comparison is ktm adventure which is from long time in market and is much more reliable then re..
Thanks for sharing @abhinavtiwari2003.
It got a tubeless now and the touring seat upgrade costs just 4500 bucks
Not into offroading,. 390adv is best for highway cruising, happy with my adv 390x
Glad to hear that @niranjankn280
Hey shumi! Can we trust the new himalayan chassis?
Old himalayan famous for Notorious chassy breaking issue. Fatal issue
What's ur opinion on yezdi adventure?
I love that bike. RE simply should have not stopped the 411. With the 450 they have created an incomplete machine. Neither tech loaded like KTMs nor value for money like the 411.
Compared to the older Himalayan I found this Himalayan to be tiring on off road, probably because of the top weight of the bike.
Thanks for sharing @akshaydeshmukh7046.
I like the old Himalayan Model than the new one.
Thanks for letting us know @Hello8896-t9x
I'm seriously considering getting the Adv X over the new Himalayan by Diwali time. I need an Adv spec bike for touring purposes. I've heard/read a lot of bad things about the new Himalayan for example, the right side pull (which exists on all RE bikes), Tubed tires, overweight and overall build quality. Meanwhile on the other hand people say the Adv 390/250 is just a street bike with Adventure suspension. Not sure what to do now 🥲 might end up buying a Dominar 400 and save myself some good money.
@reeshavgohain Wait for few months. Hero is launching its 400cc ADV bike.. it might be worth for you
Whichever bike you have on your wishlist, just go and test ride it. Test rides don't last for a while, so consider renting bikes that you liked the and finalize the ones that you liked the most. That really is the only way to find out which bike is suitable for you. I have ridden the Himalayan 450 and I liked its aggressive acceleration style, but the vibrations are kind of a deal breaker for me. I own the CB350 Highness, but since you've mentioned Dominar, I'd recommend that you go ahead with it, because it is quite an underrated machine. Only downside I've heard from the owners is service. Good luck man and let us know which bike you get :)
@@manjugoku6206 maybe in 2025
You really have to 1st write down your requirements, check for showroom & service center, then get info on quality of those service center, finalize an common ground or patch of road with uphill and downhill section where you can TD both bike one after other, then you will have clarity. Also check parking these parking on inlcine or downhill to get idea.
@@sameerkharade7750renting and testing it is actually the best advice someone has given me!!! Thanks a hell lot dude!
updated adv390 spyshots promise a lot, they will make every effort to compete with himalayan coz right❤ now it is a walkover by himalayan
We hope so too @HunterVlog350cc.
Waiting for the next Gen ADV😸🙌🏻
🤞🏾
Which one is best now. Himalayan or Adventure 390
Nows the time _not_ to buy the Adventure 390 at all, Karthik. The new one will be coming soon, and we're expecting that to be great - this one is not (see: ruclips.net/video/_zFkPwTfg_Y/видео.htmlfeature=shared). That makes the Himalayan the one to buy from your list (see: ruclips.net/video/N8ff7xB1Ze8/видео.htmlfeature=shared)
Any new leaks or insights on the launch timeline of the upcoming ADV? The wait is getting crazy now.
We won't speculate and add to the guesswork going on, Saikat.
Which is the best bike in India as of today under 4lakhs for Touring India from Leh to North East to Kanyakumari To rann of Kutch?
Ktm ❤❤❤❤ high quality ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Should I wait for scram 450?
The Scram seems to be nowhere. Been waiting for over a year 😅
KTM 390 R is on the way
Maybe you should have waited for the new 2025 duke adventure 390 and then compared it with the new himalayan. Then it would have been a better comparison.
"Duke adventure 390" which bike is this 😮
We see what you mean but we had to compare it against what's currently being sold as well @Dushyant933. It's the costliest KTM in India.
@arunabhdas5010 because the present adv 390 borrows the previous gen 390 duke's engine so that's why some people (including myself) often call it duke 390 adventure.
@@Dushyant933 ...true ...bcoz many manufacturers use the same engine in their separate classes of bikes street naked ... ADV......faired sport.....even cruisers .... but the most commonly combined name is " ktm duke adventure "..... You'll never find anyone calling the mt r15....inspite of identical engines..... Gurus can throw more light...
I heard that 411 is going to be relaunched in a span of 4 months, kindly confirm.
I think both the Himalayan and vstrom 250 have longer wheelbase than the ktm. But why is motorinc calling it the bigger bike?
The KTM is still the physically taller and larger bike @abhishek3398
Which bike do u suggest under 4 lakhs in every category ?
Like : naked segment, cruiser, cafe racer etc...?
There's no single recommendation for everybody at MotorInc @syedajas3652. What we'd suggest you to do is, make a list of the motorcycles that you're interested in, take test rides of all of them, pay attention to what you feel about each of them, and then come back to us with your observations, if that's necessary!
Usually, from your test rides alone you'll know what would work for you! Good luck and do ping us if needed.
There are lots of issues with quality of Himalayan as a product are coming up. For example the cone set issue, even with bike as new as one day old has also been seen with the same. The quality of bolta used are also a question now. Have you come across any such issue?
Our long termer hasn't had any major issues so far Abhinav.
@@motorinc thanks
The only thing that will make me avoid the 390 adventure is the seat height. My height is now 5"7" from 5"6", and it is not enough to get my legs down in the 390 adventure. Also the engine, that could have been tuned for this adventure machine, it's same as the Duke 390 in tune, that should have been differentiated.
We agree with the engine part Taranshu. We're hoping that the next update addresses concerns like this. As for the height, Shumi is of the opinion that it is something you can overcome, if you can take the time to practice patiently. We'd suggest not avoiding it just because of that.
3rd point is absolutely correct 😂. Royal Enfield dont have a rival in their chassis 🤣. Be it UCE Bullet, UCE Classic, Himalayan 411 and this model Himalayan 450.
Nice chassis 💥😂👍
🤣
The helmet name please 🥺
Himalayan chassis issues have started coming. There reports of chassis bending and breaking. How can you say it has a good chassis?
We're waiting for RE to revert on that - stay tuned
Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 ❤
Make video for Suzuki Vstrom 250 or Yezdi Adventure 350 which one to buy because I like both the bike please
from what ive heard the ktm 390 adventure is a duke in fancy dress with all the impracticalities of offroading a naked.
Basically @60-ish.!
Hello MotorInc in today’s date Himalayan also got the option for tubeless spoke-wheel setup so What would you suggest me Himalayan 450 or KTM Adv 390…. Height and weight of both the motorcycles are not an issue for me
We'd pick the Himalayan if you have to get one right now @nadikmayapthomi789, but if you can, wait for the next Adventure. Then test ride both and decide!
Plz do advise on trk 502 Benelli
Suspension of 390 adventure sw vs himalayan 452?
The Himalayan is leaps and bounds better @shreeramgeedh3931, and yes, that's despite the adjustable suspension on the SW.
Old Himalayan ❤🙇♂️
I own a 2021 dominar 400 and i love living with it❤
But now Im in the middle of a place where I love both the new adventure x and the new himalayan 452.
Im a tall 6.2ft and sub 100kg😅 guy and I use it for daily office commutes, weekend runs
60-70kms mostly in and around the city and do occasional long highway runs.
Should I go for the RE or the KTM and if thats KTM, should I wait for the new adventure 390 ?
I think u should buy nx500 🙂
@@TouringTrailblazer thats way too far for me.
That would burn all my bucks😅
If u are going to use it as a daily commuter and sometimes little trips to mountains I will suggest ktm because of the smaller front tyre it makes your bike more nimble on sharp turns, it's easy to maneuver while trying to have a race against time while going to office while himalyan will require u too slow down a little bit , but u will surely enjoy the low end of himalyan. If you want to have one bike garage u have to make compromises. But if you are open to two bikes I will suggest Himalayan and Aprilia 457 best pair according to me.
As u said u already have dominar and if u want to keep that dominar I will suggest Himalayan, totally different bike different character, u will love switching between Dominar and Himalayan, it will just add a different feeling will doing a daily commute.
NX500
On same thoughts..
2021 domi 400
6ft tall
Obsessed with the re 450 but thinking about upcoming adv 390 and enduro 390.
What about the chasis breaking problem in himalayan. Has it been fixed?
There is no fix for that! The chassis seem to be breaking due to the faulty bolts snapping out. You need to keep an eye on those bolts all time and keep tightening with a torque wrench.
Today Himalayan got tubeless now ktm needs an update for engine new 390 and Power to weight ratio ktm will fly ... For touring ktm may be faster theoretically 😅
Indeed
What's with the tyres why they deecided to go with tube, the earlier himalyans had better looks
We're not sure if we understand this @-humsafar. Please explain?
Dude you forgot about the weight of Himalayan..
We didn't. Not that the Adventure is super light, but weight is one thing you can get used to with time. Think about it, Srivatsa, if you think you won't get used to weight, you'll never be able to ride faster/larger/more premium machines, right?
Which scooter should my dad buy he is 63 and has back pain
Jupiter
Bmw c400gt
Wud recomend a light bike if he wants softer ride .. 100cc also wud be fine... But as scooter only . Activa is soft enough ....
@@shinoy587 he uses the Activa 3g and it is really bad I rode it and it was bad
@@NishanthDamaletry the electrics ather etc. Go for any 125cc offerings. Almost all have decent suspension, also bigger wheels means better ride
I am planning to upgrade my duke 250 2022 model with gen 3 duke 250 , is that good or not ?
What do you hope to gain from this Wajeed? So we understand the plan?
@@motorinc just needed a instrument cluster ,Quick shifter , ride by wire and a cool design which is black and blue
Then yes.
When would the tubeless version of Himalayan 450 be available?
The tubeless spoke rims haven't been approved yet by the Indian Government @FarhanAhmed-nc6ks so it's unknown as of now.
@@motorinc crucial info. Thanks for the same. Now I'm thinking of going aftermarket for tubeless rims.
need Honda nx500 review !!!!
We also need a test bike for that @syedjavidh6848!🤷🏾♂️
What about Himaliyan's bad chassis breaking issue (it breaks near handle) i heard it also happens with new 450 also
Looks like the Himalayan's chassis breaking was due to improperly mounted crash guards @sarangpathak4623. For the G450, we don't know yet! Will have to wait and see.
@@motorinc ohh, I got to know about the reason behind it just now!!! & For 450, yup, let's wait and watch 😶🌫️🤞🏻
Remember folks... U get a center stand for the Himalayan 😂
Why's that important @JackTH3?
@motorinc A motorcycle for the city may not need a center stand, but for one made for the highways? Having it surely makes life easier, doesn't it
The Himalayan also looks way better. IMO
What are those rack things on the rear tires?
Hey Zach! Indian law requires the bikes to have a grille there to prevent the saree, a flowing garment Indian women wear, from going into the wheel/chain etc. So that's why that rack. It's not very heavily enforced so a lot of riders who don't have a lot of saree-wearing pillions will often remove them post purchase
@@motorinc Ive never heard of that, that is super interesting. Thank you for the reply, Keep up the great work!
You're welcome! Thanks!
"Himalayan is unrivalled in chasis "
😅
It is. It still is.
I just got the ADV, because my 50-year-old knees can’t deal with my Duke anymore, especially over long distances. They should have just called the ADV the Tall Edition of the Duke. Because that’s exactly what it is.
That would've ruined the Duke's reputation too! Hopefully the next one justifies its name @angshudasgupta4526.
@@motorinc we can agree to disagree on this ☺️. I never intend to go offroad -- it's the ergos that I'm after. The Himalayan simply doesn’t work for me -- it doesn't have the sense of speed and control that I've grown used to. The ADV, on the other hand, is a blast. Reminds me of my younger self on the OG 390.
Fair enough @angshudasgupta4526. The next one should be even better then!
@@motorinc Time is short, my friend. Can’t wait.
@@angshudasgupta4526Only a matter of few months ig
Can you tell about zontes 350t
Reliability is the only issue. I test rode it and the overall experience was pleasant. Not bad not excellent.
Wat r things where himalayan can do and not ktm 390 adv?
You should switch the places in your question. Pretty sure many wont like the answer on what the KTM is capable of.
Personal opinion Himalayan best Value/Price
Thanks for letting us know @Erick-mt5qh
Himalayan has tubeless tires now…
Really? Since when @surajkalburgi1405?
how reliable is the chassis of himalayan
Shumi hasn't found anything wrong during his testing @johmmycheems6139. We've ridden three different units so far and the one we've ridden the longest is at ~2,000km
My friend's himalayans front wheel got removed while riding when the vehicle was less than a month old. This was a few years ago
@@Rash0tube was it 411 or 450?
@@amitkrupal1234 411
Tubeless tyres tho
More like easy to brake chassis 🙄
Unrivaled in chassis 💀 fr
हिमालयन बाइक 100 कि के बाद सर्विस सेंटर पर जाने की तैयारी करती है ना कि हिमालय पर जाने की😅😅😅😅
I hate the round headlight of Himalayan
I know this is not in the context but a small enquiry about when can we know something about Suzuki 800de ... please
We aren't covering big bikes right now @chandanreddy6080.
We aren't covering big bikes right now @chandanreddy6080.
What about reliability mate, I have used 3 different bikes from royal Enfield personally along with a Honda and a Suzuki and all I can conclude is RE only stands for Rubish Engines.. apart from that RE service guys are less skilled than road side mechanics and maintenance is unreasonably costly..
it's called Himalayan, not Himalyan
It is spelled correctly in this video @stephanos2758.
@@motorinc it is not... show me where in the word there is an "i" or "y" after the L
It is spelled "Himalayan" - the right spelling, in the video @stephanos2758. Not "Himalyan". We can't see where the mistake is on this one.
@@motorinc you are trolling right? every time he says the model he is calling it the himalyan
Oh you meant the pronunciation, gotcha! Thank you for the feedback.
New himalayan just doesn't look good, atleast the older had some character, this looks bad i guess, I think even scram was a better machine overall. I was thinking of buying this one but now it just doesn't feel right.
Thanks for letting us know @madhurchoudhary3095
#390adv❤
Himalayam is too heavy it is bad for an offroader. Honda CRF 300 ralley is a perfect and reliable offroad machine if lauched in India.
Himalayans engine is not a proven thing either the chassis. two of My friends having classic 350 UCE resulted in broken chassis. They rented a bike from delhi for touring it also had the same fate.
KTM is a proven machine with very good power to weight ratio and feature loaded so worth the money paid.
On paper the ktm has better specs for sure but when it comes to do adv bike things like off-road riding and cruising on the road , ktm throws me over the bar while off-roading and is simply too aggressive naturally for crusing comfortably. In short KTM= street bike with adv clothes
HIMALAYAN= Tube tires
Choose your poison
Which makes the ADV 390x the most practical decision as of now. (Tubeless setup, settled down vibrations at highway speeds, Himalayan tends to buzz a lot at 90-110, lighter weight to easily move around in city and in trails).
The Himalayan should only be considered when it comes with tubeless setup. 🥲
+ LC4 from Gen 3 D390. 🙂
😅I have been saying it wrong all this time
Ha bhai bolna kya cha hate hi 😂😂😂
I saw you in pune
This man is actually confuses every review.. also decision making!!
Indian roads are itself mild offroad kind of.. better go for adventure bikes
Where do you come from bruh?
NX 500 enters the chat with 5.9 lakhs !
Jokes on you, it's close to 7.5 lakhs on road...
@@abhishekn9871 It's ex show room price bro
@@kirthivasank2649 then by that logic, KTM 390 adventure's exshowroom price is just 3.38 lakhs...
KTM comes with a time tested reliable motor, only god knows life of RE motor
Never a fan of Royal Enfield bikes, never will be. Royal Enfield is iphone of the bike World.
Thanks for sharing @chingsengdaring!
Shumi in one of your vlogs you told 390 adv is not comfortable .. and now in this you are telling that it's good ..
He's calling the seat better @ddarrrellppagee946, not the bike itself.
Himi looks wayyy better..
Thanks for letting us know @adipardita5232.
Himalayan grown Himalayan
😅
h450 is worth that moneyyyyyy
Himalayan has many many manufacturing issues
@@hewhoexplain6816 Don't buy first batch...
Gs 310 and both this please make on this
Wish to connect with biking community
Cant understand most of the things u guys are saying especially the practical riding experience
For now ,all i have now is activa 😅
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Himalayan 450 looks so much better
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Praise the lord 🙏🏻
Which is the best bike
Of these two? Himalayan.
Tenere 700👌