00:00:00 Intro 00:04:01 March 6th, 2024 Police Interview starts 00:09:40 They say Jenn was a bad influence on Stephan 00:15:40 Chris was support Stephan financially 00:23:59 Stephan wanted an ex to lie still (as if she were dead)? 00:28:50 Discussing Jenn 00:34:05 Boys at school or Stephan's story? 00:38:19 Why didn't Stephan drive his car to visit? 00:43:45 Stephan was extremely stressed on Saturday, Feb 24th, 2024! 00:55:00 "I think he was rehearsing it on me" 00:56:55 His several visits to the dumpster and calling his dad 01:03:40 Stephan's abduction theory 01:13:50 Jenn and Stephan wanted Chris to come to the hotel 01:22:13 Chris was worried about Stephan just wandering around 01:22:31 "It's part of his lie" 01:41:20 Their explanation for blood in the vehicle 01:48:10 Sleeping arrangements 01:57:25 Stephan has an older brother in the Navy (11 years older) 02:11:30 Stephan's first love 02:17:00 Mother upset about friends calling in to RUclips shows 02:17:40 "Saved him" 02:27:30 Jenn said Chris needs to get Stephan a lawyer 02:30:14 Jenn's demeanor was similar to what they knew, not concerned for Madeline 02:39:00 They don't know why he was in the St. Cloud area 02:41:15 Debra's dream about what happened 02:44:45 "The fall guy" 02:52:50 Debra talks about the Laundries 02:55:00 Debrief and Outro Comment below what stood out to you? FULL CASE PLAYLIST: ruclips.net/p/PL0cYrgj38mhp8jbDI-QRMLrcFMxL-BTLJ
Amazing how the parents didn’t think any thing of Maddie also sharing their bed, as a couple, between them & their dogs. This is the least alarming thing in the entire case. It’s not unusual, & even Vinnie Politan, Nancy Grace, & many other parents all claim to still share the bed with their children. Many children sleep or co-sleep with their parents, especially “free range” parents who don’t like their children in cribs or “cages” as they claim.
Just unbelievable Jens. Demeanour from the first interview to today’s police interviews is so unreal. I would be in the fight zone,and you would hear me cry and scream. All of these people are so unbelievable their emotions are heartless.
This kooky mom claims that JS “took” SS on a depression spiral with her… woman open your eyes 👀 your son is NOT a victim. The ONLY victim in this case is poor Maddie.
@junebuchholtz28 7 she sure doesn't sound like it . This isn't an underage relationship the monster sodomized then killed a child she had paid off a former roommate not to tell on Stephan .
Leave the mom and dad alone…the parents now know and at least they are being cooperative and giving them everything they need! I actually think the father seems like a nice guy! I’m sure his parents are torn apart…why do they have to cry in front of the cops! This is not their first interview thus far, they have been interviewed many times before this! His son is not the character of the father! I’m sure someone will attack me in the comments about the parents but there’s always someone. This just happened also and his mother is digesting that her son is a monster so let her be! Who cares, it’s about Maddy losing her life to a monster & Jen is the one who should be bat sh** crazy learning her daughter has been murdered & sexually abused!
@@Milanitalia4581 attack ? well aren’t you doing the very thing you just asked others not to do to you. We all have a right to our opinion. I have mine - you have yours. I won’t try to shut you down if you don’t try to shut me down. Deal?
Yes. By every single adult in her life. How do you not notice for 5 years that a child in your family is uncomfortable around somebody? Like what the hell. The poor girl had dark circles under her eyes. That doesn't just happen for no reason
Yes, completely failed! Even after her death the people who were supposed to be close to her don‘t show any grief but throwing around blame to each other, SSs parents pointing to Jenn instead of even grasping that their son is responsible anyway for Maddies total misery, even if it wasn‘t him who killed her, what he had done til that point😱😱?!? I don‘t hear a word about Maddie gone forever, no word about the horrific childhood she had because of their son!! No matter what bad mother Jenn was-which is tragic and very very sad of course- it was him who abused her in the worst imaginable way and probably him who killed her. The parents sure are aware he has a very strong motive w all the abuse!? Terrible to witness how the ones close to Maddie don‘t even seem to care now😭 ( I‘m not talking about her friends of course! And maybe her grandparents from Jenns side are sad, Idk, not heard from them yet but I‘m a little worried that they could be just slightly different…I hope not, I hope Maddie had at least there a bit homelike times when she was w the grandparents!!
Yes it's beyond sad Begging her nanda crying not to go hone Poor Maddie His parents knowing he's sick, Maddie mum not Evan a birthday gift, she had not a single adult with any kind of duty of care No one,her mother is just so so vile,her daughter was a born Lazy
What annoys me is that SS's father keep saying that his son had an inappropriate relationship with Maddy. No Sir, no he didn't. An inappropriate relationship is between a boss and his secretary or a married person and the neighbour or a prisoner and a guard.... not between a drugged child and a fully grown man! What SS did was use an innocent child as a s-x toy, what he did was pure evil. There was no relationship! And inappropriate doesn't even come close.
How horrible was is it to learn that Jenn called Stephans' Dad to tell him he needs to get Stephan a lawyer NOW after learning they found pictures of HIM SAing HER daughter . Why would she want him to get legal representation after she learned what be did to HER child????
This was the WORST betrayal of Maddie, when I learned this information I was literally sick to my stomach. I had given Jenn the benefit of doubt, her pill popping, bi-polar, lazy, neglectful self, after learning she was still sticking up for SS then I knew her soul is as black as her daughters killer.
She got tired of being sodomized it's extremely painful and a male homosexual act , Jenn sees nothing wrong with him doing that to her child so she doesn't have to just to keep a scrounge not even a real man .
This mother is so hard core when it comes to Maddie and what a bad parent Jen is, judging, judging, judging, meanwhile she bails her son out of his messes all the time. She’s totally his enabler. A lot of projection from her. I call “crazy” on you mama.
she admitted that her son had problems. And it makes sense that only troubled women were interested in him. I see no reason to criticize these parents for yelling their perspective since it should matter very much to learning anything from this horrible case.
She cant be all bad, she knew better than to let madeline sleep in SS room. She knows what he's about if you listen to her snarky comments about *both* SS and JS. Glad his parents have spoken what sounds like the truth. ...of course they're going to send him candy and books. But they're also going to help getting him convicted too.
If I didn’t know Stephen was a grown man I’d think his parents were talking about a 16 year old!!!! His parents certainly treated him like he’s a baby boy
Jen never put Madeline first. That poor kid was dragged around and left to sleep wherever and with whomever. She was never properly cared for. Jennifer needs to be held accountable
Yes! That's neglect! She should definitely be charged with serious neglect. If she wasn't so neglectful that poor girl would have never gone though this horrible end. Not an ounce of mom in the Bi*0tH
I said this the day that I heard where they lived. You could just picture this would be the exact same interview. Had they talked about their little baby and not have hide. I’m barely into this interview and they’re making me just sick
“I don’t think she had many friends at school”, I don’t think she was a very social person”, “she was showing signs of bipolar disorder”… well that’s what happens when a child is sexually abused for YEARS. And she wasn’t bipolar, she had PTSD I’m sure.
I unfortunately had to learn somebody I was close to had abused a child my first reaction was no it’s not possible but it only took a few seconds to sink in that kids don’t just make stuff like that up. I feel guilty all the time for that initial reaction I can’t imagine putting this much effort into ignoring the clear signs
The best part of this whole interview was the end when mom said she's getting email, text and phone calls that's she's a horrible mom... guess what lady you failed as a mother!!!!!
When she says "I have seen that child cry" I thought she was going to talk about Maddie, not her grown son. The Father also describes " his inappropriate relationship" just sickening. It was CSA, don't try to downplay what your Son did to Maddie. Gisela I just wanted to thank you for your channel.
It’s interesting they’ve given him so much support in jail and since getting more information because his dad seems to have been really skeptical of him and seems aware that he was a loser who couldn’t do anything for himself (which makes me think mom was the main enabler and dad was the wallet trying to make him get it together). As a former cop, he also obviously knew anything he said could be used again Stephan and I’m sure he suspected they were building a case against him for the murder, and he still didn’t really hold back
This was my favorite interview so far. Very informative. Mr. Sterns was a cop for 2 years and has no patience with Stephen and Jennifer's life style. Stephen is still their son, but they don't like him and I think they have been afraid of him. Thanks, G!
I think so too. It sounds easy to kick out your feckless load of a son...but that's the point at which perpetual losers like him slaughter the parents who have supported them and put up with all their crap. So many examples (i. e. Joel Guy Jr...). They knew he had a gun, that if they kick him out he'd be homeless except for Jen. Then she kicked him out (kinda). They were on eggshells. He intimidated them and they kept quiet to preserve what peace they had. They are both smart people. The dad seems really nice n the mom is... interesting. We see what lil Stephen is capable of, they were right to be afraid.
What's weird is not only Jenn's reaction to Stephen abusing her daughter but HIS and his wife's reaction. NOT NORMAL in ANY way. They are just like her - I don't hear them condemning him, they are blaming Jenn more than they are him. THEY are also prioritizing their son more than Maddie - at a few points his Mommy was even sexualizing Maddie as if she tempted him. He abused her from the time she was 8 - he had 1700 videos of himself doing it and 35,000 of other CP and Mommy feels sorry for him. Heinous.
Yes!! And it’s wild that she only talked to Jenn about how weird it was to let the child sleep with Stefan. She didn’t think she should tell her own son not to sleep in the same bed as a child??? The mother is disgusting.
For people to ask you to stop interrupting is ridiculous. Obviously that is the whole point of this channel! I learn so much more this way, than I would listening to the entire thing without interruptions. My brain tends to wander, and your "interruptions" are what keep me on track. LOL. You and Gavin Fish are my favorite, and I enjoy the content. Those people must not realize just how difficult it is to obtain this information, not to mention a case that is still open and in it's prime. Thank you for your hard work!
I'm so glad you consistently kept a picture of Maddie up so that nobody forgets who the real victim in the story is I just love her little baby picture she was so adorable I mean she was at 13 too but she looks so cute as a baby and a young girl
Maybe that's what he felt like .Maybe that's why he felt more on Matties level because his parents treated him like a child as well. Of course he should have known better ,but psychologically how can any adult find little kids as sexual beings I just can't understand that 😢
She's fawning over everything her precious child ever did. Lady, snap out of it. You gave birth to someone who turned into a monster and a murderer. The worst kind. She is still enabling him in jail.
I trained/raised cadaver dogs. You are 100% correct in your assumption that if Stephan went back to Maddie's body to cover it better, once he returned to the car and touched it or the doors, the dog would alert. And your viewer who commented about the gate being left open when Maddie's body was dumped, they were also right. I live here locally, and the land owner said that he was heartbroken and would never forgive himself for leaving the gate open.
If the dogs didn't indicate on the fathers car is it possible she was actually alive but just heavily drugged when he first dumped her and he actually strangled her when he went back in Jens car? (just to make sure) and who changed her from her PJs to clothes. She would have peed herself when she died, it happens, where did that happen could the dogs pick that up?
The fact that they knew what their son had done to Madeline during this interview and they show absolutely no sadness, remorse, or grief for her at all is interesting… I cannot imagine being in their shoes and I’m sure their feelings are all over the place but, the lack of empathy for Madeline hurts my heart🥺
I am now 63 years old. I've had many years, my whole life of years learning about why my stepfather did what he did, growing up I spent my whole life really trying to come up with a reason my stepfather would hurt me, give me this burden to carry . One thing, important is that this cannot be the first time he's done this . A lot of the comments are from people who have never lived this life. I didn't live the life of a predator I was a victim of the predator , and also my mother allowed it, I've gone full circle with it. My life is consumed with. Sorry, I'm getting off track. Stefans stepdaughter wasn't his first victim. I believe I'm 100% right. I lived with a perpetrator. So I don't understand why his parents don't seem to realize they raised him. He didn't suddenly become this man that does this. He was molded into this man he became. Growing up in your household something was lacking. Your parents don't want to take responsibility for the product they produced. Something was wrong at your house Common sense tells me that
I disagree. Sometimes you as a parent can do everything right but a child can grow up to be a psychopath, sociopath etc. It's an issue with the brain development and the parents are not the only ones who influence their child's development in general. I'm not saying this the case with Stephen and his parents but in general.
The father seems very aware of the type of son he has and the mom sounds ignorant and delusional. She refuses to accept the fact that her son is a monster!
SS did not have an overly inappropriate relationship with Maddie. These two sicken me. His Mother and Father are playing down the fact this was the sexual abuse of a child, NOT A BLOODY RELATIONSHIP. I hold these two partly to blame because they have raised an enabled this monster.
These parents are absolutely disgusting. How dare they frame their son SA’ing Maddie as an ‘inappropriate relationship’; in the context of mom referring to sweet Maddie as ‘precocious’, it’s clear you’re blaming a child for the sickening atrocities committed by YOUR SON. This mom is more outraged by his vaping than his sick, predatory perversion.
Thanks Gisela for all your hard work! I am a replay watcher. I agree that you should keep up all your commentary during watching videos. Its Your Channel. I know its tough. Keep up the great work. ❤🤗
He did have a stepbrother, i believe. I've seen this father interviewed. He sure is impressed with himself. He loves the sound of his own voice. He loves telling of his hometown of Winter Park, which used to be a very affluent city in central Florida. He is really proud of that!
@Osage80 yes infuriating, stomach turning, Maddie had no one ,helpless She was screaming I'm being hurt Drawings,telling friends,no doubt begged her mother no I don't want him hear Crying at her Nanna,she didn't want to go home I think she was exposing him Mum helped him In my opinion, His parents new him They didn't look out for the child in his care either Every adult in her life failed her
They don't care about Maddie Just there boy No companion at all Just want to take care of his needs Throw $$$ where ever needed His dad's quite to say I payed over and over If it wasn't for his parents he wouldn't of been able to pay the share of rent There's no way these parents didn't no he was sick They where in every part of his life Mum cleaned his room They let him stay with a child If they have grandchildren Bet he's never aloud alone
In one of his police interviews, Sterns made it sound like he was living with and a caregiver for his aged parents. _They look like they're in their 50s or 60s!_
Ty for ALWAYS putting the victim first and foremost. Having said that. I can't help but feel... his mother is disgusting. The apple doesn't fall far, for sure
Some people are annoying while giving commentary during videos, but not this lady. She's awesome. She's also the only one I can watch/listen to for hours at a time🙌
I appreciate you, Gisela. I have adhd and struggle focusing on lectures. Your voice, though, keeps me engaged. I could probably learn more math if you taught some classes😂. Love u. Take care.
@@user-lq9es6wm9s I agree completely. I admire wanting to help an adult child that has some difficulties. I’ve kept my profession and independence living with a brain tumor until 3 yrs ago and then TBI, is not easy and if someone with disabilities gets support, cool for them. But the purpose of helping someone is seeing them progress, he is stagnated in the life of a teenager, even their interactions with him and getting all stressed out about where is he going and what is he doing. He is an adult, he also has to take responsibility for his actions. Seems like they both were living the same life, because Jen was living in her dad’s house, that is comfortable, but still she needed to make more money from renting the rooms, instead of giving her daughter the privacy she deserved and still her parents and sister were always taking care of Maddy. Might sound harsh, but if she cannot take care of her child, maybe she shouldn’t have custody. Is so sad that Maddy paid the price for these two entitled people.
These parents are so hateful. Just because of the way they talk about Jen and her mental illnesses, no I dont like Jen at all but why are they talking like they're all high and mighty... putting people down for their mental illness. I dont like anyone in this situation!
This mother is something else. Evidently, she thinks her creepy son with his cold, black, dead eyes is a real catch. Yeppers, the son she raised who has a penchant for children. Every word she uses to describe JS is filled with such bitterness. It sounds like she was/is jealous of JS.
2:25:48 Jen telling Stephan's dad to get him a lawyer NOW. She knew!!! She knew everything from the get go and that's why she protected him all throughout the interviews. Despicable.
Omg this mother is tiring to listen to. These two created an entitled man child and they’re STILL enabling that behaviour. Mom will defend him no matter what and blame everyone else and dad seems tired of him but still does things like pay his way. In my opinion they’re not even surprised, they knew their son was a monster.
@@Truthbetold2024-u3q I don’t think she is, I think she just wants to remind ignorant to it all so she can still view her precious boy as just that. She knows full well he’s a failure at life, a criminal, a killer and a predator… and she’s still pretending he’s a good boy.
@@Truthbetold2024-u3qshe will have a total meltdown when it goes to court and every despicable action of her beloved son is made public, oh the shame, what will the neighbours say??? Reality will soon kick in. Bless little Maddie , Rip ❤
G, thank you for sparing us seeing that pic from her notebook. I saw it on Vinnys show & it was so horrible. Thank you for always keeping things so respectful to the victims & their families
The dad mentioned hanging out with people from two very wealthy neighborhoods, this tells me they were willing to cover up for their son in order to prevent him embarrassing them in their well to do circle of friends. The mother never held him accountable and the father provided for him well beyond an appropriate age. The parents were very worried with appearances.
@@AmandaGillooly They showed they were not willing to commit a crime. You are confusing not willing to commit a crime by hiding evidence, with being a good person. They showed they are willing to cooperate with police AFTER a child went missing. Stop for a moment and think WHY they were able to say they wouldn't put anything past Stefan? Because they KNEW he was a monster and as long as nobody else knew about it, they were fine. People this concerned with appearance WILL ALWAYS cooperate with police, otherwise people will see and start to talk if they didn't.
Thank you, God for that man that called in and he is a saint and he should be definitely called into court as a witness obviously. If it wasn’t for him, I don’t know where this would be right now. God bless you for seeing him. We are truly blessed to have yousee that and be where you were supposed to be that day.
REGARDING CADAVER DOG >>> Fact: a body has to be dead for at least 3 hours before a cadaver dog can pick up a scent. I believe Madeline was drugged. I think he killed her in the car and that's when he put her in the trunk. Then, at some point, he drove her out and put her in that field. He takes the Nissan and goes back out to that location in the middle of the night. By now, Madeline has been deceased long enough and he touched her or did something with her and picked up the scent. In the video, you'll notice the dog hits on the driver's door of the Nissan. That's just one possible theory as to why the cadaver dog hit on the Nissan and not the monster's car. I know someone who did body recovery with a cadaver dog for 20+ years. I asked them if a body had to be dead for a certain amount of time because I too was confused about why the dog didn't hit on his car.
Do u think pehaps all the other scents in that car may have over took the scent of death. The father said that car was used to transport sick and injured poodles. Maybe vomit, feces and dog blood could perhaps confuse the cadaver dog? That's what I was thinking perhaps. What I'm more baffled by is the fact that Stephan walked out of a complex of condos with a human that couldn't walk, had to be carried, and nobody saw or videoed it. I personally work 12 hour night shifts and sometimes get off early and/or late so I'm moving through my neighborhood at all hours, hours most people are sleeping and there will still be people out walking their dogs or leaving or entering their homes. It's surprisingly active even at 3am.
It angers me so much when they talk about the 'inappropriate relationship' Stephen and Maddi had. They did not have a relationship. He was a predictor ABUSING a CHILD !!!!!!!! Stop making it sound like it was anything else. 😡😡
Yes technically speaking when someone has this kind of interaction it’s called “inappropriate relationship”! It should have been the opposite interaction of an adult being protective and kind to a child
Sorry for so many comments but I have THOUGHTS, this case triggers me. 😂🫣 Stephan is only sad because he’s going to prison forever and his eight year reign of terror on a young child has come to an end. He was living his best life while Maddie suffered and Jenn failed at life. This mother has a holier than thou attitude that I can’t stand. She isn’t ok with vaping but is seemingly alright with her son being a filthy predatory monster.
This is the first case I’ve ever actually taken notes about, because I really believe that justice cannot be done without Jenn being part of that picture. Stephan’s parents (mom esp.) blame all of his issues on his TBI. They are LUCKY he didn’t pull a Chandler Halderson on them, and by their comments I think they know that. I think they are glad it was Maddie instead of them. They are equally disgusting and vile, and I need the strongest palette cleanser of all time now.
I agree if they had tried to make him do anything he might have wound up wanting to kill his parents just like Chandler Halderson and Guy his first name escapes me but he killed both of his parents as well
@@calico-kat-mom6204Joel guy jr? Put his mamas head in a pot. Can you imagine giving birth to and nurturing a human being that could do that to you. And I agree, SS totally capable and it was bound to happen
@@calico-kat-mom6204there are a bunch. Joel Guy JR is who you’re thinking of. Matt Orchard covered him recently and mostly went over JG Jrs journal of “plans”. Bonkers incriminating and just stupid.
These two are the most insufferable people I’ve ever heard. Wow… I’m so disgusted. That poor girl never stood a chance with the 4 of these lunatics surrounding her. Maddie, I hope you’ve finally found some much deserved peace, beautiful girl. I’m sorry all of these fools failed you so miserably. 💔💙
❤️ wrenching Not a single adult helped her Maddie own insight into her own trauma at 12,in her writings ✍️ To take her self of medication Knowing it was because of this vile perverted child torturers So sad Crying at her nanbas begging not to go home No gift from mum Why bother ,your being murdered If there was a charge for the parents enabling & happy for him to go there ,pay his way Needing the break They should be charged For there part in her torturers abuse perverted wants His ultimate turn on playing dead my God No one kept her safe Then there's a young boy in the house to
Sleep apnea sufferers have a breathing mask and oxygen they have to wear during sleep…. If he was diagnosed. True insomnia is not sleep apnea more likely he took the quiet solitude to do his disgusting activities
Which he probably didn't have either. He just stayed awake do "extra curricular " while his parents were asleep and had to sleep during the day . Because if he had apnea why would a.m. sleep or p.m. sleep make a difference 🤔
She wasn't loved unconditionally and protected in life, but I hope she knows she has an army ready to protect her now. 😢 G, thank you for the respect you have shown Maddie. ❤
I literally gasped out loud when you said his parents lived in the same town as the Landry family bc the whole time I watched this they were exactly who I thought of. Know who else? Casey Anthony’s parents. Holy moly.
@@melsafken764I know. They said "career path" and I had to laugh. Stephan Sterns and career path in the same sentence seems like a little bit of a reach!!
00:00:00 Intro
00:04:01 March 6th, 2024 Police Interview starts
00:09:40 They say Jenn was a bad influence on Stephan
00:15:40 Chris was support Stephan financially
00:23:59 Stephan wanted an ex to lie still (as if she were dead)?
00:28:50 Discussing Jenn
00:34:05 Boys at school or Stephan's story?
00:38:19 Why didn't Stephan drive his car to visit?
00:43:45 Stephan was extremely stressed on Saturday, Feb 24th, 2024!
00:55:00 "I think he was rehearsing it on me"
00:56:55 His several visits to the dumpster and calling his dad
01:03:40 Stephan's abduction theory
01:13:50 Jenn and Stephan wanted Chris to come to the hotel
01:22:13 Chris was worried about Stephan just wandering around
01:22:31 "It's part of his lie"
01:41:20 Their explanation for blood in the vehicle
01:48:10 Sleeping arrangements
01:57:25 Stephan has an older brother in the Navy (11 years older)
02:11:30 Stephan's first love
02:17:00 Mother upset about friends calling in to RUclips shows
02:17:40 "Saved him"
02:27:30 Jenn said Chris needs to get Stephan a lawyer
02:30:14 Jenn's demeanor was similar to what they knew, not concerned for Madeline
02:39:00 They don't know why he was in the St. Cloud area
02:41:15 Debra's dream about what happened
02:44:45 "The fall guy"
02:52:50 Debra talks about the Laundries
02:55:00 Debrief and Outro
Comment below what stood out to you?
FULL CASE PLAYLIST: ruclips.net/p/PL0cYrgj38mhp8jbDI-QRMLrcFMxL-BTLJ
Love that you timestamp every video!
I appreciate all you do G!!
Your such a hard worker!
@@GrizzlyTrueCrime That's Ted Bundy and he blamed it all on porn.
Amazing how the parents didn’t think any thing of Maddie also sharing their bed, as a couple, between them & their dogs. This is the least alarming thing in the entire case. It’s not unusual, & even Vinnie Politan, Nancy Grace, & many other parents all claim to still share the bed with their children. Many children sleep or co-sleep with their parents, especially “free range” parents who don’t like their children in cribs or “cages” as they claim.
Just unbelievable Jens. Demeanour from the first interview to today’s police interviews is so unreal. I would be in the fight zone,and you would hear me cry and scream. All of these people are so unbelievable their emotions are heartless.
You're so thorough & your attention to details are phenomenal. Grade A, 1st Class content creation 👏👏🏆 👏👏
This kooky mom claims that JS “took” SS on a depression spiral with her… woman open your eyes 👀 your son is NOT a victim. The ONLY victim in this case is poor Maddie.
She does know that now
Or the fall guy .
@junebuchholtz28 7 she sure doesn't sound like it . This isn't an underage relationship the monster sodomized then killed a child she had paid off a former roommate not to tell on Stephan .
Leave the mom and dad alone…the parents now know and at least they are being cooperative and giving them everything they need! I actually think the father seems like a nice guy! I’m sure his parents are torn apart…why do they have to cry in front of the cops! This is not their first interview thus far, they have been interviewed many times before this! His son is not the character of the father! I’m sure someone will attack me in the comments about the parents but there’s always someone. This just happened also and his mother is digesting that her son is a monster so let her be! Who cares, it’s about Maddy losing her life to a monster & Jen is the one who should be bat sh** crazy learning her daughter has been murdered & sexually abused!
@@Milanitalia4581 attack ? well aren’t you doing the very thing you just asked others not to do to you. We all have a right to our opinion. I have mine - you have yours. I won’t try to shut you down if you don’t try to shut me down. Deal?
Maddy was not bipolar, she was angry because of the trauma and nobody protecting her from a predator.
Agreed! She probably had a lot of trauma symptoms 😢
They were talking about Jen Soto being bipolar, not Maddie.
I totally agree 😢 Maddie was drugged and abused every night that animal/Monster Demon _was in that room number 4!!!
I agree too. She probably had effects from the forced medication doses too on top of abuse and neglect.
@@SiegridHart I believe it was Jenn who said she thought Madeline was beginning to exhibit bipolar features.
I’m just shocked that everyone treated this 37 year old man like he was a 3rd grader. It’s definitely a red flag.
Seems like a Psy OPP
That poor child was FAILED miserably.
Yes. By every single adult in her life. How do you not notice for 5 years that a child in your family is uncomfortable around somebody? Like what the hell. The poor girl had dark circles under her eyes. That doesn't just happen for no reason
YES and YES. Holy crap the more I hear the more angry I get.
Yes, completely failed! Even after her death the people who were supposed to be close to her don‘t show any grief but throwing around blame to each other, SSs parents pointing to Jenn instead of even grasping that their son is responsible anyway for Maddies total misery, even if it wasn‘t him who killed her, what he had done til that point😱😱?!? I don‘t hear a word about Maddie gone forever, no word about the horrific childhood she had because of their son!! No matter what bad mother Jenn was-which is tragic and very very sad of course- it was him who abused her in the worst imaginable way and probably him who killed her. The parents sure are aware he has a very strong motive w all the abuse!?
Terrible to witness how the ones close to Maddie don‘t even seem to care now😭
( I‘m not talking about her friends of course! And maybe her grandparents from Jenns side are sad, Idk, not heard from them yet but I‘m a little worried that they could be just slightly different…I hope not, I hope Maddie had at least there a bit homelike times when she was w the grandparents!!
Yes it's beyond sad
Begging her nanda crying not to go hone
Poor Maddie
His parents knowing he's sick,
Maddie mum not Evan a birthday gift, she had not a single adult with any kind of duty of care
No one,her mother is just so so vile,her daughter was a born
Lazy
The mum looking no where for her daughter
No where wtf
Wow a corner in the kitchen for a bedroom
What annoys me is that SS's father keep saying that his son had an inappropriate relationship with Maddy. No Sir, no he didn't. An inappropriate relationship is between a boss and his secretary or a married person and the neighbour or a prisoner and a guard.... not between a drugged child and a fully grown man! What SS did was use an innocent child as a s-x toy, what he did was pure evil. There was no relationship! And inappropriate doesn't even come close.
Exactly!!
It’s still an inappropriate “relation” he’s older. They speak differently.
Yes, exactly. Thank You 👏👏👏👏 say it louder for the people in the back... this sick mf
AMEN!
@StonedBarbiee it's pedophilia
G- I admire your patience with the complainers. I wouldn't change a thing about what you do ❤
How horrible was is it to learn that Jenn called Stephans' Dad to tell him he needs to get Stephan a lawyer NOW after learning they found pictures of HIM SAing HER daughter . Why would she want him to get legal representation after she learned what be did to HER child????
This was the WORST betrayal of Maddie, when I learned this information I was literally sick to my stomach.
I had given Jenn the benefit of doubt, her pill popping, bi-polar, lazy, neglectful self, after learning she was still sticking up for SS then I knew her soul is as black as her daughters killer.
Desperate for a guy. The child was a pawn to keep a man. Imo
She got tired of being sodomized it's extremely painful and a male homosexual act , Jenn sees nothing wrong with him doing that to her child so she doesn't have to just to keep a scrounge not even a real man .
@@2Ryledyep and part pay rent
She couldn't be bothered Maddie
Just a porn as you said
Not Evan a birthday present
Beyond sad
Right? They would be needing to get me a lawyer if i heard that my boyfriend did those things to my child.
This mother is so hard core when it comes to Maddie and what a bad parent Jen is, judging, judging, judging, meanwhile she bails her son out of his messes all the time. She’s totally his enabler. A lot of projection from her. I call “crazy” on you mama.
And they do a whole lot of softening the abuse by refusing to even use the word, describing it as "inappropriate relationship" YUCK
Mom has some soul searching she needs to do…
The Mom of Stephan is 50% wrong….about her own son
she admitted that her son had problems. And it makes sense that only troubled women were interested in him. I see no reason to criticize these parents for yelling their perspective since it should matter very much to learning anything from this horrible case.
She cant be all bad, she knew better than to let madeline sleep in SS room. She knows what he's about if you listen to her snarky comments about *both* SS and JS. Glad his parents have spoken what sounds like the truth. ...of course they're going to send him candy and books. But they're also going to help getting him convicted too.
If I didn’t know Stephen was a grown man I’d think his parents were talking about a 16 year old!!!! His parents certainly treated him like he’s a baby boy
They've been enabling Stephan since childhood.
@karenbraughton3179 They realized he had a TBI and intellectual differences, but it's sad that he got access to (a) child(ren) . . . Devastating. . .
YES!
@@looking4things669yes
They are a part of the problem
Thank you for keeping Maddie in the focus.
Jen never put Madeline first. That poor kid was dragged around and left to sleep wherever and with whomever. She was never properly cared for. Jennifer needs to be held accountable
100%
Yes! That's neglect! She should definitely be charged with serious neglect. If she wasn't so neglectful that poor girl would have never gone though this horrible end. Not an ounce of mom in the Bi*0tH
All these adults.
Zero sensibility.
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@@monicamazzei-l1r I know but apparently she wasn't a good influence on Stephen. We're talking about full grown adults lol
I think there’s room to suspect that the mother always knew and possibly was responsible for the unaliving to keep her from telling.
Thank you for going through this with us and continuing the conversation about beautiful Maddie 🤍
Brian Laundry's parents would be perfect companions to these two. They both raised precious, sensitive boy-men who could do no wrong.
Yes!!!! This is such a great point. They are so so similar
They would be BESTIES! 🤮
I said this the day that I heard where they lived. You could just picture this would be the exact same interview. Had they talked about their little baby and not have hide. I’m barely into this interview and they’re making me just sick
They are probly all friends because they all live in north port 😂
Debra is mispronouncing the dirty Laundries name on purpose it's not Landry .
“I don’t think she had many friends at school”, I don’t think she was a very social person”, “she was showing signs of bipolar disorder”… well that’s what happens when a child is sexually abused for YEARS. And she wasn’t bipolar, she had PTSD I’m sure.
Yes. Ptsd definitely
Agreed
Along with depression etc
Horrible people
Just disgusting. My ex’s mom is the same. Idk if it’s really total denial or just evil
Victim blaming a child is crazy.
Is anyone else astounded by how relaxed AND judgy the mom is?? It seems like they're talking about a traffic violation not the murder of a child!!
I unfortunately had to learn somebody I was close to had abused a child my first reaction was no it’s not possible but it only took a few seconds to sink in that kids don’t just make stuff like that up. I feel guilty all the time for that initial reaction I can’t imagine putting this much effort into ignoring the clear signs
Yeah, and the fact that Madeline slept in the bed with her! She's probably a predator also because that's no appropriate!
SUCH Interfering Parents!!! They've never all owed Stephen to let loose of the Apron Strings...totally unbearable!
Definitely!
She makes me such 🤮
INAPPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIP!?!? She was a child!! The parents are aweful
The best part of this whole interview was the end when mom said she's getting email, text and phone calls that's she's a horrible mom... guess what lady you failed as a mother!!!!!
You're right .. she definitely deserves to get harassed about a murder she didn't commit. You must be parent of the year
and every word she said, she proved everyone’s point lmao!!
When she says "I have seen that child cry" I thought she was going to talk about Maddie, not her grown son. The Father also describes " his inappropriate relationship" just sickening. It was CSA, don't try to downplay what your Son did to Maddie. Gisela I just wanted to thank you for your channel.
Mr. Sterns mention of Stephan “rehearsing the story” is illuminating!
💥Boom💥 I thought the same thing!
He was never buying his idiot son's BS!
@@RadMc02same
caught that tidbit tooo, many more on both sides
It’s interesting they’ve given him so much support in jail and since getting more information because his dad seems to have been really skeptical of him and seems aware that he was a loser who couldn’t do anything for himself (which makes me think mom was the main enabler and dad was the wallet trying to make him get it together). As a former cop, he also obviously knew anything he said could be used again Stephan and I’m sure he suspected they were building a case against him for the murder, and he still didn’t really hold back
You’re the best channel!!! Everything about what you do draws us all in!!! Thank you!!!!
This was my favorite interview so far. Very informative. Mr. Sterns was a cop for 2 years and has no patience with Stephen and Jennifer's life style. Stephen is still their son, but they don't like him and I think they have been afraid of him. Thanks, G!
I think so too. It sounds easy to kick out your feckless load of a son...but that's the point at which perpetual losers like him slaughter the parents who have supported them and put up with all their crap. So many examples (i. e. Joel Guy Jr...). They knew he had a gun, that if they kick him out he'd be homeless except for Jen. Then she kicked him out (kinda). They were on eggshells. He intimidated them and they kept quiet to preserve what peace they had. They are both smart people. The dad seems really nice n the mom is... interesting. We see what lil Stephen is capable of, they were right to be afraid.
2 years??? Who is a cop for a whole 2 years??? 😮😮😮
Think he was a Sheriff
How was this guy a cop? He hasn't the balls to confront his own son.
These parents make good snowflakes IMO
Not sure how they live with themselves
What's weird is not only Jenn's reaction to Stephen abusing her daughter but HIS and his wife's reaction. NOT NORMAL in ANY way. They are just like her - I don't hear them condemning him, they are blaming Jenn more than they are him. THEY are also prioritizing their son more than Maddie - at a few points his Mommy was even sexualizing Maddie as if she tempted him. He abused her from the time she was 8 - he had 1700 videos of himself doing it and 35,000 of other CP and Mommy feels sorry for him. Heinous.
Right!! THEY CREATED A MONSTER!
You said it, clearly!!
Exactly absolutely disgusting
Yes!! And it’s wild that she only talked to Jenn about how weird it was to let the child sleep with Stefan. She didn’t think she should tell her own son not to sleep in the same bed as a child??? The mother is disgusting.
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I really enjoy listening to your commentary. Please keep sharing your thoughts, opinions, and insight with us.
For people to ask you to stop interrupting is ridiculous. Obviously that is the whole point of this channel! I learn so much more this way, than I would listening to the entire thing without interruptions. My brain tends to wander, and your "interruptions" are what keep me on track. LOL. You and Gavin Fish are my favorite, and I enjoy the content. Those people must not realize just how difficult it is to obtain this information, not to mention a case that is still open and in it's prime. Thank you for your hard work!
Thank you! I wonder sometimes if people don't understand why one might start a channel....surely not to sit in the corner quietly for 2 hours 🤣
Well said G 😜
I agree 👍👍💯 Gavin Fish .❤
@@GrizzlyTrueCrime
Maybe they want to hijack all the info you paid for, without your voice?
Yeah same I need the interruptions too...
I'm so glad you consistently kept a picture of Maddie up so that nobody forgets who the real victim in the story is I just love her little baby picture she was so adorable I mean she was at 13 too but she looks so cute as a baby and a young girl
Yes, I appreciated that as well. 💕
Yes!!!!
Love your commentary Gisela, don't listen to anyone else now. Keep up the good work...
Never heard of a parent of a missing kid eating and sleeping…
@@mandakinimachiraju yep - right on ,,agree 100 percent
Exactly!!!
Right I thought same
Exactly. Especially in the first few weeks. People have to tell them to eat and force them to get any rest.
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Stefan and his Mum have the same ‘look at me I’m a victim’ story. It’s sickening. Watching on catch up from Australia. Thanks Gisela ❤
i appreciate so much that you dont use foul talking
@@lisasin6239 toughen up!!!
Sounds like his parents are describing a 15 year old teenager not a 37 year old man!
Maybe that's what he felt like .Maybe that's why he felt more on Matties level because his parents treated him like a child as well. Of course he should have known better ,but psychologically how can any adult find little kids as sexual beings I just can't understand that 😢
Is it not astounding! They cannot be this clueless. That officer must have been OMGoodness!
Complaining about his behaviour all the while enabling him.
FREAKING SICK! The parents keep saying his son had an inappropriate relationship with Maddie! NOOOO HE WAS R3PING & SEXUAL ABUSING HER!!! 🤨
that is the meaning of innapropriate in this case?
@@syritasdoneitgoodytwoshoes2471 we need to call it for what it is! It wasn't a "relationship" it was R3pe!
@@syritasdoneitgoodytwoshoes2471something wrong with u. Far from inappropriate.
It's disgusting illegal and sick
@@khaleesio2513💯
You're commentary was spot on today. Those parents, especially, mom ... Geez
She's fawning over everything her precious child ever did. Lady, snap out of it. You gave birth to someone who turned into a monster and a murderer. The worst kind. She is still enabling him in jail.
I LOVE how Dad said I think he wanted to try out his story on him first. It worked on Dad but not on the police.
The Mother
Murder? -Meh
Vaping? -Absolutely Not! 😲
@@notthesame8991 and they're shooters or hunters. They kill defenceless animals. I'd rather vape than murder other living things.
I agree, she's mad as a box of frogs but in regard to the vape she is annoyed because it's jenns medical MJ vape and she is anti 420/MJ
SUCH Interfering Parents!!! They've never all owed Stephen to let loose of the Apron Strings...totally unbearable!
YASSSS!!!?? WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES YOU CALLOUS COW
SA? -meh
bisexual? -absolutely not!
You are so precious and so entertaining to watch and listen to. You are one in a million G!
I trained/raised cadaver dogs.
You are 100% correct in your assumption that if Stephan went back to Maddie's body to cover it better, once he returned to the car and touched it or the doors, the dog would alert.
And your viewer who commented about the gate being left open when Maddie's body was dumped, they were also right. I live here locally, and the land owner said that he was heartbroken and would never forgive himself for leaving the gate open.
Oh that's awful....it's certainly not his fault! Stephan just would have gone somewhere else...🙏
If the dogs didn't indicate on the fathers car is it possible she was actually alive but just heavily drugged when he first dumped her and he actually strangled her when he went back in Jens car? (just to make sure) and who changed her from her PJs to clothes. She would have peed herself when she died, it happens, where did that happen could the dogs pick that up?
@norellemaher2956
Exactly
Peeing and releasing everything in the bowels occurs, as well as other things.
So Sad.....
This interview is enabling parents 101
Thank G for all u do. I’ve been playing catch up . Thank you 😊
The fact that they knew what their son had done to Madeline during this interview and they show absolutely no sadness, remorse, or grief for her at all is interesting… I cannot imagine being in their shoes and I’m sure their feelings are all over the place but, the lack of empathy for Madeline hurts my heart🥺
No fluctuating in their tones or voices at all fur little Maddie 🤦🏻♀️ so cold hearted imo - where’s the empathy?!?!
Well they blame Jen and Maddy is Jen's daughter so they likely blame her to. So sad either way she was a child.
@@valoriewarehime167yeah, denial.
@@ElizabethButters1111 agree! It is absolutely insane!
They’ve covered up for him before. Per ex friend
His mom is blaming Jen because she cannot look at herself.
unbelievable does she think she is mother of the year
She is the definition of a hypocrite! So bizarre!!! This interview literally clarifies why Stephen is the way he is…. No further explanation needed!!
Common tactic distract away from personal guilt, enabler...co-dependent parenting! Destructive!
the projection is INSANE! like, look in a mirror fr
It’s not her fault…it’s HIS and his alone!
I am now 63 years old. I've had many years, my whole life of years learning about why my stepfather did what he did, growing up I spent my whole life really trying to come up with a reason my stepfather would hurt me, give me this burden to carry . One thing, important is that this cannot be the first time he's done this . A lot of the comments are from people who have never lived this life. I didn't live the life of a predator I was a victim of the predator , and also my mother allowed it, I've gone full circle with it. My life is consumed with. Sorry, I'm getting off track. Stefans stepdaughter wasn't his first victim. I believe I'm 100% right. I lived with a perpetrator. So I don't understand why his parents don't seem to realize they raised him. He didn't suddenly become this man that does this. He was molded into this man he became. Growing up in your household something was lacking. Your parents don't want to take responsibility for the product they produced. Something was wrong at your house Common sense tells me that
I disagree. Sometimes you as a parent can do everything right but a child can grow up to be a psychopath, sociopath etc. It's an issue with the brain development and the parents are not the only ones who influence their child's development in general. I'm not saying this the case with Stephen and his parents but in general.
The father seems very aware of the type of son he has and the mom sounds ignorant and delusional. She refuses to accept the fact that her son is a monster!
SS did not have an overly inappropriate relationship with Maddie. These two sicken me. His Mother and Father are playing down the fact this was the sexual abuse of a child, NOT A BLOODY RELATIONSHIP. I hold these two partly to blame because they have raised an enabled this monster.
I dont want to sound morbid...but im so invested in seeing the trail
Maybe Stephan was so tired all the time because he was up all night doing his filthy deeds and stalking on the internet
These parents are absolutely disgusting. How dare they frame their son SA’ing Maddie as an ‘inappropriate relationship’; in the context of mom referring to sweet Maddie as ‘precocious’, it’s clear you’re blaming a child for the sickening atrocities committed by YOUR SON. This mom is more outraged by his vaping than his sick, predatory perversion.
THERE SICK! MAN!
So true!
@@tsnodl Yes, I thought mum was blaming Maddie. This started when Maddie was eight years old for goodness sake. Look at the facts Mrs Sterns.
@@tsnodl yep she is victim blaming
Debbie reminds me of my mom (who was a Debbie) an abusive, rage filled woman. Venomous.
You can hear it in her voice.
Thanks Gisela for all your hard work! I am a replay watcher. I agree that you should keep up all your commentary during watching videos. Its Your Channel. I know its tough. Keep up the great work. ❤🤗
Oh wow, thank you so much! Love, Gisela
Didn’t they see all this before he was 37 years old? If he didn’t have a job or college out of high school what was he doing?
Parents are codependent 😮
He was a career leech that was his profession a filthy sadistic basement dweller.
That mom even enables him in her dreams. She created a psychopath
He looks exactly like her.
He did have a stepbrother, i believe. I've seen this father interviewed. He sure is impressed with himself. He loves the sound of his own voice. He loves telling of his hometown of Winter Park, which used to be a very affluent city in central Florida. He is really proud of that!
You are not only a responsible reporter, but are a moral human being!
I could never get through this case without you and your commentary. Thank you so much, GIsela.
Just discovered your channel. You are so entertaining and informative.
@@klm4446 Just discovered this Channel as well. THE best I’ve listened/watched, so far. Thx G.
Im sorry she is looking out for HIM when HE abused her daughter?!?! Unbelievable!
Yes! It’s disgusting.🤢
The WORST betrayal of Maddie.
Standing up for your daughter’s murderer??? I now know Jenn is as soulless as SS.
@Osage80 yes infuriating, stomach turning, Maddie had no one ,helpless
She was screaming I'm being hurt
Drawings,telling friends,no doubt begged her mother no I don't want him hear
Crying at her Nanna,she didn't want to go home
I think she was exposing him
Mum helped him
In my opinion,
His parents new him
They didn't look out for the child in his care either
Every adult in her life failed her
They don't care about Maddie
Just there boy
No companion at all
Just want to take care of his needs
Throw $$$ where ever needed
His dad's quite to say I payed over and over
If it wasn't for his parents he wouldn't of been able to pay the share of rent
There's no way these parents didn't no he was sick
They where in every part of his life
Mum cleaned his room
They let him stay with a child
If they have grandchildren
Bet he's never aloud alone
how can they call it an "inappropriate relationship"?! and he's "the fall guy"?!
In denial!! S A abuse!
Thank u for meeting with us. "Our Pleasure" Stefans dad replies.....WTF ???😊
Weird!
Thats not even weird.. it’s just a common thing to say..
In one of his police interviews, Sterns made it sound like he was living with and a caregiver for his aged parents. _They look like they're in their 50s or 60s!_
Right! They are active and healthy, still working and busy...busier than him! He's just making up excuses to not look more like the loser he is.
Yes, he made them sound ancient! oh my word!
I think that was SS way of trying to seem caring and responsible- which he was neither.
I see a pattern of manipulation, by Steph.
They are in better shape than both Jen and SS. At least they can stay awake for an interview.
Ty for ALWAYS putting the victim first and foremost. Having said that. I can't help but feel... his mother is disgusting. The apple doesn't fall far, for sure
Thanks so much for your comprehensive deep dives, into this and the other stores you cover and share with us. Keep up the excellent work.
I pray Jen is held accountable. Poor beautiful Maddie was failed by many.
Yes - keep giving your commentary. Ignore those clueless people.
Amen to that!!
Some people are annoying while giving commentary during videos, but not this lady. She's awesome. She's also the only one I can watch/listen to for hours at a time🙌
💯💯💯 I'm here for the commentary 💓✨☺️
I appreciate you, Gisela. I have adhd and struggle focusing on lectures. Your voice, though, keeps me engaged. I could probably learn more math if you taught some classes😂. Love u. Take care.
His parents sound so enabling.
You think? Lol!
@@lhr8833 Right!! They pay his rent and his phone!! They are a big part of the problem!!
This leads right back to their parenting
@@user-lq9es6wm9s I agree completely. I admire wanting to help an adult child that has some difficulties. I’ve kept my profession and independence living with a brain tumor until 3 yrs ago and then TBI, is not easy and if someone with disabilities gets support, cool for them. But the purpose of helping someone is seeing them progress, he is stagnated in the life of a teenager, even their interactions with him and getting all stressed out about where is he going and what is he doing. He is an adult, he also has to take responsibility for his actions. Seems like they both were living the same life, because Jen was living in her dad’s house, that is comfortable, but still she needed to make more money from renting the rooms, instead of giving her daughter the privacy she deserved and still her parents and sister were always taking care of Maddy. Might sound harsh, but if she cannot take care of her child, maybe she shouldn’t have custody. Is so sad that Maddy paid the price for these two entitled people.
Look @ the mother...such a glowing Narcissist!!
His father knows! Not because he has details but because he knows his son!
i agree! same with mom
Love your comments lady! So right on!
These parents are so hateful. Just because of the way they talk about Jen and her mental illnesses, no I dont like Jen at all but why are they talking like they're all high and mighty... putting people down for their mental illness. I dont like anyone in this situation!
she had refused support in her video interrogation, she was questioned as to her personal care, and parenting styles.
@@msherman2888 I still dont support people talking down on people with mental illnesses lol
This mother is something else. Evidently, she thinks her creepy son with his cold, black, dead eyes is a real catch. Yeppers, the son she raised who has a penchant for children.
Every word she uses to describe JS is filled with such bitterness. It sounds like she was/is jealous of JS.
Thank you for all you do for the community ❤
2:25:48 Jen telling Stephan's dad to get him a lawyer NOW.
She knew!!! She knew everything from the get go and that's why she protected him all throughout the interviews. Despicable.
@@silviamtz8961 🤮🤮👍🏼
The WORST betrayal of poor Maddie. Jenn’s is a soulless monster just like her daughter’s killer.
Omg this mother is tiring to listen to. These two created an entitled man child and they’re STILL enabling that behaviour. Mom will defend him no matter what and blame everyone else and dad seems tired of him but still does things like pay his way. In my opinion they’re not even surprised, they knew their son was a monster.
The mom is oblivious to her son’s wrongdoings. She’s so dumb!
@@Truthbetold2024-u3q I don’t think she is, I think she just wants to remind ignorant to it all so she can still view her precious boy as just that. She knows full well he’s a failure at life, a criminal, a killer and a predator… and she’s still pretending he’s a good boy.
Well she gave him her entire face. She's probably so proud of her creation. Eww.
@@Truthbetold2024-u3qshe will have a total meltdown when it goes to court and every despicable action of her beloved son is made public, oh the shame, what will the neighbours say??? Reality will soon kick in. Bless little Maddie , Rip ❤
G, thank you for sparing us seeing that pic from her notebook. I saw it on Vinnys show & it was so horrible. Thank you for always keeping things so respectful to the victims & their families
LOVE your intelligent, respectful and informative commentary. Please don't stop!
The dad mentioned hanging out with people from two very wealthy neighborhoods, this tells me they were willing to cover up for their son in order to prevent him embarrassing them in their well to do circle of friends. The mother never held him accountable and the father provided for him well beyond an appropriate age. The parents were very worried with appearances.
They showed the opposite..they quite literally gave the police everything even the bad. Not sure how you are coming to that conclusion at all
@@AmandaGillooly They showed they were not willing to commit a crime. You are confusing not willing to commit a crime by hiding evidence, with being a good person. They showed they are willing to cooperate with police AFTER a child went missing. Stop for a moment and think WHY they were able to say they wouldn't put anything past Stefan? Because they KNEW he was a monster and as long as nobody else knew about it, they were fine. People this concerned with appearance WILL ALWAYS cooperate with police, otherwise people will see and start to talk if they didn't.
Thank you, God for that man that called in and he is a saint and he should be definitely called into court as a witness obviously. If it wasn’t for him, I don’t know where this would be right now. God bless you for seeing him. We are truly blessed to have yousee that and be where you were supposed to be that day.
REGARDING CADAVER DOG >>> Fact: a body has to be dead for at least 3 hours before a cadaver dog can pick up a scent. I believe Madeline was drugged. I think he killed her in the car and that's when he put her in the trunk. Then, at some point, he drove her out and put her in that field. He takes the Nissan and goes back out to that location in the middle of the night. By now, Madeline has been deceased long enough and he touched her or did something with her and picked up the scent. In the video, you'll notice the dog hits on the driver's door of the Nissan. That's just one possible theory as to why the cadaver dog hit on the Nissan and not the monster's car.
I know someone who did body recovery with a cadaver dog for 20+ years. I asked them if a body had to be dead for a certain amount of time because I too was confused about why the dog didn't hit on his car.
wow!!! great info thanks for sharing!!!
I didn’t hear that sweet maddie was thrown in the trunk…horrifying!!!
Do u think pehaps all the other scents in that car may have over took the scent of death. The father said that car was used to transport sick and injured poodles. Maybe vomit, feces and dog blood could perhaps confuse the cadaver dog? That's what I was thinking perhaps. What I'm more baffled by is the fact that Stephan walked out of a complex of condos with a human that couldn't walk, had to be carried, and nobody saw or videoed it. I personally work 12 hour night shifts and sometimes get off early and/or late so I'm moving through my neighborhood at all hours, hours most people are sleeping and there will still be people out walking their dogs or leaving or entering their homes. It's surprisingly active even at 3am.
Thank you for sharing this information.
G you’d be a great investigator!! you’re thorough and totally invested … love it!!
i love how respectfully and kindly you speak about the case and how you keep shining a like on MS’ story, so tragic, so horrible
You're great. Your commentary makes a big difference. It always helps to hear another's perspective.
It angers me so much when they talk about the 'inappropriate relationship' Stephen and Maddi had. They did not have a relationship. He was a predictor ABUSING a CHILD !!!!!!!!
Stop making it sound like it was anything else. 😡😡
Yes technically speaking when someone has this kind of interaction it’s called “inappropriate relationship”!
It should have been the opposite interaction of an adult being protective and kind to a child
Sorry for so many comments but I have THOUGHTS, this case triggers me. 😂🫣
Stephan is only sad because he’s going to prison forever and his eight year reign of terror on a young child has come to an end. He was living his best life while Maddie suffered and Jenn failed at life.
This mother has a holier than thou attitude that I can’t stand.
She isn’t ok with vaping but is seemingly alright with her son being a filthy predatory monster.
@@StarkJerk you and me both! 🤦🏻♀️ I get so furious when children are victimized. I just can’t hold my tongue.
Keep going it is frustrating
You’re terrific. Keep talking.
Watching again for everything that I may have missed. 😢Thank you for your hard work ❤️
This is the first case I’ve ever actually taken notes about, because I really believe that justice cannot be done without Jenn being part of that picture. Stephan’s parents (mom esp.) blame all of his issues on his TBI. They are LUCKY he didn’t pull a Chandler Halderson on them, and by their comments I think they know that. I think they are glad it was Maddie instead of them. They are equally disgusting and vile, and I need the strongest palette cleanser of all time now.
I agree if they had tried to make him do anything he might have wound up wanting to kill his parents just like Chandler Halderson and Guy his first name escapes me but he killed both of his parents as well
Interesting theory
@@calico-kat-mom6204Joel guy jr? Put his mamas head in a pot. Can you imagine giving birth to and nurturing a human being that could do that to you. And I agree, SS totally capable and it was bound to happen
@@calico-kat-mom6204there are a bunch. Joel Guy JR is who you’re thinking of. Matt Orchard covered him recently and mostly went over JG Jrs journal of “plans”. Bonkers incriminating and just stupid.
Completely agree with you. The length of time that the police has taken to take action against mom is just mind blowing.
Commentary please!!! I love your commentary. ❤
Just wanna add that I love your commentary! Feels like we’re having a discussion. It’s quite nice.
We definitely want to hear your commentary G. That's why we tune into you, its specifically for your insights and thoughts. Don't hold back!
Love your Podcast! You do such a excellent and intelligent job! Thank you for all your information and comments that are insightful 👍
These two are the most insufferable people I’ve ever heard. Wow… I’m so disgusted. That poor girl never stood a chance with the 4 of these lunatics surrounding her. Maddie, I hope you’ve finally found some much deserved peace, beautiful girl. I’m sorry all of these fools failed you so miserably. 💔💙
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Its infuriating hearing them blabber on and on 😒
@@Lighthouse6104Narcissists all suck.
Such a sad, sad case. Poor Maddie.
❤️ wrenching
Not a single adult helped her
Maddie own insight into her own trauma at 12,in her writings ✍️
To take her self of medication
Knowing it was because of this vile perverted child torturers
So sad
Crying at her nanbas begging not to go home
No gift from mum
Why bother ,your being murdered
If there was a charge for the parents enabling
& happy for him to go there ,pay his way
Needing the break
They should be charged
For there part in her torturers abuse perverted wants
His ultimate turn on playing dead my God
No one kept her safe
Then there's a young boy in the house to
😂 screaming from his room, Ma bring the meatloaf! 😂😂 one of my faves.
Insomnia is not sleep apnea. Just because you have sleep apnea doesn’t mean you’re insomniac
True. I'm an expert at this point 😂
No joke I thought that same thing the first time I heard this the last live.
Sleep apnea sufferers have a breathing mask and oxygen they have to wear during sleep…. If he was diagnosed. True insomnia is not sleep apnea more likely he took the quiet solitude to do his disgusting activities
Which he probably didn't have either. He just stayed awake do "extra curricular " while his parents were asleep and had to sleep during the day . Because if he had apnea why would a.m. sleep or p.m. sleep make a difference 🤔
Sleep apnea doesn't affect the times you sleep either you have sleep apnea whether you sleep during the day or night! Lol
You’re doing such a great job! Thank you so much for the respectful coverage. Glad to be a part of this community.
This is by far my favorite channel❤️
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
She wasn't loved unconditionally and protected in life, but I hope she knows she has an army ready to protect her now. 😢 G, thank you for the respect you have shown Maddie. ❤
You are amazing! Thank You for everything you do!!
I literally gasped out loud when you said his parents lived in the same town as the Landry family bc the whole time I watched this they were exactly who I thought of.
Know who else? Casey Anthony’s parents. Holy moly.
Just where a man who enjoys children should work… Disney
A LOT of predators work for Disney. 😡 It’s an easy place for them to access children. Absolutely disgusting 🤢
And the parents were hoping this job would straighten out Stephen's life. Riiiight.
Was he ever a Disney character? Just the thought makes me want to never stop vomiting.
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@@melsafken764I know. They said "career path" and I had to laugh. Stephan Sterns and career path in the same sentence seems like a little bit of a reach!!
Your commentary separates you from others I love your accent keep it up