MORE Police Interviews with Stephan Sterns's Dad, Divorce Papers Reveal Past Double Life?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024

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  • @GrizzlyTrueCrime
    @GrizzlyTrueCrime  26 дней назад +67

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:05:48 When Stephan was nine
    00:06:35 CORRECTION: The correct grammar in this sentence is "my son and me" as written 😏
    00:07:06 Double life?
    00:11:55 Chris Sterns police interview (Feb 28th, 2024)
    00:18:15 When Stephan was not at the hotel
    00:26:48 Chris is surprised Stephan drove to North Port, FL that morning
    00:31:00 Did Jenn ever say anything nice about her daughter?
    00:37:00 "A lifetime lying to us"
    00:38:40 Stephan lied about where he changed the tire
    00:39:30 What's the significance of the storage unit?
    00:41:20 "There's been an incident"
    00:44:50 Stephan was run over by a car when he was 8
    00:45:10 Separation anxiety
    00:52:36 "That motherf*" , says Debra
    00:59:35 Stephan stole from his parents
    01:02:35 Stephan's obsession?
    01:15:40 Mr. Grizzly's snark
    01:22:15 Dad says Stephan was physically worn out
    01:26:30 Dad asks if the body was in Jenn's car?! 👀👀👀👀
    01:29:44 Stephan wanted an ex gf to lie still like she was dead?
    01:36:00 Dad is told Stephan has been arrested
    01:43:08 Poodle ambulance
    01:55:30 What Jenn told Debra about the sleeping arrangements that night
    02:10:54 Jenn asking the police for her medication (assertively)
    02:15:55 Closing thoughts & Outro

    • @ouidedbouzoubia858
      @ouidedbouzoubia858 26 дней назад +1

      Maybe he cover her body from their apartment to the vehicle

    • @CamilleDePalo-xi2qj
      @CamilleDePalo-xi2qj 26 дней назад +1

      How does one kno when. To say he: and i" or blank and me..
      .
      # love you maddie ❤

    • @CamilleDePalo-xi2qj
      @CamilleDePalo-xi2qj 26 дней назад +2

      Ty Gisselle!

    • @marycronopulosraz9776
      @marycronopulosraz9776 26 дней назад

      Because Jenn Soto is a moron.

    • @susanmoore7229
      @susanmoore7229 26 дней назад +2

      Why do you get to see all the good stuff (freckle, et Al) and not us? 😁 The more I hear from Chris and Deb, the more I like them. Honest and hard working people 👍

  • @bw988
    @bw988 26 дней назад +345

    The level of nonchalance in all these people is astounding. No tears, no hysteria, no concern. I don't get it.

    • @stephaniepiazzese2602
      @stephaniepiazzese2602 26 дней назад +23

      True Narc behavior. All the way. They haven’t a soul. 😢

    • @amberkarim9239
      @amberkarim9239 26 дней назад +17

      Agree and by letting this mother go .We can't ever get Madeline back but my God what are people thinking all the children are seeing this that may be in simular situations. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO THEM ? And child has been treated so disrespectful in my opinion.

    • @johnchaulk
      @johnchaulk 26 дней назад +11

      The dad doesn’t really know the victim. They lived 2 hours apart and it’s not like they were blood relatives.

    • @user-iz1kz8dq6h
      @user-iz1kz8dq6h 26 дней назад +1

      I don't see it like that at all.

    • @user-iz1kz8dq6h
      @user-iz1kz8dq6h 26 дней назад

      ​@@stephaniepiazzese2602they? They? You are judging the lot of them? Hmmm, I suppose it's possible...

  • @klsb75
    @klsb75 26 дней назад +174

    Replay crew!! A child he KNOWS is MISSING!!! How can he blab so nonchalantly about his career, his houses he’s built, the area… no concern about precious Maddie. These people- ALL OF THEM!!

    • @TheGemini1907
      @TheGemini1907 26 дней назад +16

      Trying to throw them off because he knows way more imo

    • @klsb75
      @klsb75 26 дней назад +1

      ⁠ Do you think so?? I guess that does make sense- it’s all so 🤢

    • @johnmorgun9961
      @johnmorgun9961 26 дней назад +8

      He's providing a statement to the police. There wasn't a close relationship between Maddie and Stern's parents. The parents probably feel some guilt for creating the monster responsible for her disappearance.

    • @MsK_1111
      @MsK_1111 26 дней назад +7

      The officers talked to them all in a very friendly way. Its not like they were just story telling, without the officers asking questions and keeping things pretty light.

    • @veronicarodriguez-kx9wj
      @veronicarodriguez-kx9wj 26 дней назад +10

      Jen never cried

  • @tammiyperin4707
    @tammiyperin4707 26 дней назад +391

    WHYYYYY does not one adult show any sadness for that poor little girl?!??

    • @onemanstrash8233
      @onemanstrash8233 26 дней назад +38

      It’s so bizarre isn’t it? Nobody seems to be concerned about that baby. Her mom nor his parents seem to be SHOCKED at this or concerned about what happened to her. Makes me sick to my stomach!

    • @amberkarim9239
      @amberkarim9239 26 дней назад +30

      I want Jennifer arrested for the other children who are going thru simular situations
      and now they see even if they are unalived the mother is still not arrested. I would like to see new law Madeline Soto law mothers can't pimp their children out and get away with it.But Jennifer you know what they say about karma??????

    • @HermitLady
      @HermitLady 26 дней назад +30

      They didn’t care about her when she was alive, why would they care now?

    • @mandimoo4073
      @mandimoo4073 26 дней назад +6

      Agree. 😢

    • @ponytales707
      @ponytales707 26 дней назад +11

      Not one single tear from any of them! It’s disgusting! Lock them all up for gross neglect- they will surely feel sorry for themselves.

  • @2ndGenBastArd
    @2ndGenBastArd 26 дней назад +109

    Re Stephan's parents: They can talk all they want about Jennifer, but they're the one's that subsidized their 37 year old sons life. He didn't want to work any more than Jennifer did. How about, you're living in our house, so you're getting a full-time job, you're going to support yourself, you're going to drive your own vehicle and maintain it and you're going to help around the house. If you can't/won't, you don't get to live here.
    Re Jennifer: She is an idiot. She didn't pay attention to anything going on for years and made no efforts to protect her daughter. She's just as guilty as he is.

    • @cherylmichaud9294
      @cherylmichaud9294 25 дней назад +3

      Amen!

    • @LorrielleisWright
      @LorrielleisWright 25 дней назад +2

      Thank you!👏👏👏
      🎯🎯👍

    • @jupiterclark8967
      @jupiterclark8967 13 дней назад +4

      Jenn is heavily involved in her murder… she has to be! OR she found out and killed Maddie in a jealous rage…

    • @TheSkatersmum
      @TheSkatersmum 12 дней назад +2

      Also, Stephan's mum was disabled on disability when filling for her divorce, you'd think she'd be more sympathetic...

    • @looking4things669
      @looking4things669 2 дня назад

      👍👍👍💯

  • @macdaddyalexis
    @macdaddyalexis 26 дней назад +165

    It's extreme sad to know this girl was suffering and no one helped her.

    • @sassyfrass4295
      @sassyfrass4295 26 дней назад +4

      down right TRAGIC!

    • @kellyegan9824
      @kellyegan9824 25 дней назад

      She must have been so confused bc that bastard groomed her. He didn’t want the mother he wanted Maddie. It’s awful

  • @Underacactus
    @Underacactus 26 дней назад +59

    Am I the only one slightly stunned Stephan could change a tire? (Without a phone!) 😂

    • @tashastakeonlife4733
      @tashastakeonlife4733 25 дней назад +3

      Did he really have a flat tire or was that his excuse when he was actually dumping the body?! Although his dad did say that Stephan spoke of having issues placing the jack.

    • @Lizzybaby30500
      @Lizzybaby30500 25 дней назад +6

      ​@@tashastakeonlife4733yes the flat tire is how he he got caught

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 18 дней назад +1

      ​@@tashastakeonlife4733That's probably it. The police should have requested to watch him change a tire with no phone and no help. That would have been interesting.

    • @horrorunicorn
      @horrorunicorn 21 час назад

      @@tashastakeonlife4733yes there is phono of ran thru tire in evidence photos

  • @wishingyoupeace
    @wishingyoupeace 26 дней назад +167

    Poor Maddie living with all of these gross people.

    • @tracischraenkler4801
      @tracischraenkler4801 26 дней назад

      All of them. This precious baby had absolutely Nobody. Why isn't this arrogant A hole throwing up and sobbing over a missing young girl. Wtf are these monsters.

    • @tammymakin4751
      @tammymakin4751 26 дней назад +7

      Yes Beyond a horror film

    • @evephelpsmarketing
      @evephelpsmarketing 26 дней назад +12

      It makes me so sad to think that this is happening to some child somewhere as we speak. Ugh.

    • @heavenj7
      @heavenj7 25 дней назад

      Yep! And sorry but I don’t trust anyone who breeds those big ass poodles! 🐩

  • @steviasativa9803
    @steviasativa9803 26 дней назад +75

    His dad hated him before the crime. You can just tell how disappointed and over he was of him.

    • @TheGemini1907
      @TheGemini1907 26 дней назад +10

      Or is he trying to hard to separate himself from the crime he is involved imo all his stories and bs and finger pointing blaming some one else🚩🚩🚩

    • @steviasativa9803
      @steviasativa9803 26 дней назад +16

      @@TheGemini1907it could be both. I could really hear his dad’s disdain for him. He has thought he was a loser for awhile.

    • @MsK_1111
      @MsK_1111 26 дней назад +12

      Yep he only tolerated him to placate mom

    • @GotMySnarkyNanaPantsOn
      @GotMySnarkyNanaPantsOn 26 дней назад

      Narcissists look at their children as a reflection of themselves and SS not projecting the same attributes as them is why they are not impressed with him.

    • @traceymitchell6619
      @traceymitchell6619 26 дней назад +6

      @@TheGemini1907 Yep. Protests just a bit too much

  • @debbieb1320
    @debbieb1320 26 дней назад +99

    As a Mom who has a child who died, this is really hurting my heart. The Mom seems so distant from her precious child.

    • @tracischraenkler4801
      @tracischraenkler4801 26 дней назад +8

      Wiordss don't help but I'm sincerely sorry.

    • @rosemariefritchman5288
      @rosemariefritchman5288 26 дней назад +4

      Sorry for your loss!❤🥰

    • @Weissguys6
      @Weissguys6 26 дней назад +4

      I’m so sorry. So very sorry. 💔🙏❤️

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +4

      It’s Narcissism and Evil
      There are plenty of moms/parents even grandparents/aunts/uncles/cousins etc completely disconnected and detached

    • @looking4things669
      @looking4things669 2 дня назад +1

      I am so sorry to hear of your heartbreaking loss.

  • @lisac2368
    @lisac2368 26 дней назад +39

    Disgusting lack of concern for poor Maddie!!! 😢

  • @cabooseabs6864
    @cabooseabs6864 26 дней назад +465

    The father is just told his son was arrested for SA and given a minute to let it sink in he's "flabbergasted" about his son's "endeavor" of driving back to north port in the middle of the night. It sounds like he isn't surprised his son is a monster, but is surprised his lazy son would actually do a 5 hour drive.

    • @TSUNAMI-MAMI
      @TSUNAMI-MAMI 26 дней назад

      Seems like the only effort Stephan ever made in life was to be a deviant.

    • @dawnatkinson7704
      @dawnatkinson7704 26 дней назад +35

      'Impressed' is what he actually said 😡

    • @ITZCHELSEA2244
      @ITZCHELSEA2244 26 дней назад +9

      ​@@dawnatkinson7704 i mean it is impressive i cant even be in a car for 15 minutes without clostraphobia setting in

    • @XaMarie21
      @XaMarie21 26 дней назад

      😂😂

    • @sherrymason5302
      @sherrymason5302 26 дней назад +67

      The parents are coming off as a wee bit unhinged. I'd love to hear what the elder son has to say

  • @maytheforcebewithyou4313
    @maytheforcebewithyou4313 26 дней назад +68

    SS said his folks are old, deaf, barely alive - made it sound like 80-90 year olds.

    • @knyck5466
      @knyck5466 26 дней назад +13

      Another lie

    • @hazeleyes6725
      @hazeleyes6725 26 дней назад +12

      He said he was living back at home because They (his parents) needed His help as they were getting older. They sound able to me. Lie lie lie

    • @maefreeman6475
      @maefreeman6475 19 дней назад +9

      Yeah he said that they were old & making their end of life plans. Tried to make them sound like they were so old & dying. They sure don’t sound like he tried to make them sound. Everything he said was a lie.

    • @whodat7084
      @whodat7084 6 дней назад +2

      I imagine he went home every time he needed money.

  • @Aries-Athena
    @Aries-Athena 26 дней назад +78

    "I may remove stephans image....as I'm tired of looking at him" 😂😂😂😂😂
    Agreed!!! And, too funny.

    • @Reenym-vs4nk
      @Reenym-vs4nk 17 дней назад +1

      😂😂😂 this I giggled at that too

  • @unapologeticallyauthentic
    @unapologeticallyauthentic 26 дней назад +41

    Poor sweet Maddie❤❤5 years? Jen didnt notice 1 odd behavior in 5 years? Didnt notice mannerisms of MS or SS change? Changes in laundry? She absolutely knew!😡😡😡😡😡

    • @skygodess87
      @skygodess87 26 дней назад +12

      She knew! She turned a blind eye! IMO, at the very least she should be arrested for neglect!! Tho, I believe she knew he killed her girl!

    • @unapologeticallyauthentic
      @unapologeticallyauthentic 25 дней назад +3

      ​@@skygodess87me too... too many inconsistencies

    • @viviansmith5060
      @viviansmith5060 День назад

      She fed her daughter to him

  • @CaseyRhyneXoXo
    @CaseyRhyneXoXo 26 дней назад +227

    Dad has a story for everything but not one true concern for Maddie

    • @wendymiesowitz1897
      @wendymiesowitz1897 26 дней назад +13

      I don't agree; I think Deb and Chris had more concern that JS or SS. and much more helpful and open

    • @Angela410R
      @Angela410R 26 дней назад +11

      Oh Casey, you read my brain cells!!! My goodness he was driving me mad! Thank you for putting the word's into writing ✍️! I no longer suffer in silence😅.

    • @susanjane2498
      @susanjane2498 26 дней назад +17

      A salesman spinning a spiel, UGH! I detest sales people. Most of them anyways, because they rip people off while screwing them. I couldn't and wouldn't want that job ever.

    • @edwinacaparelli9911
      @edwinacaparelli9911 26 дней назад +8

      Is kind of feels that way it doesn't it? Also it seems like they were concerned that she wasn't a good fit for their son, for lifestyle choices and all this but then it's okay for her to have a child? That is crazy to me.

    • @CaseyRhyneXoXo
      @CaseyRhyneXoXo 26 дней назад +10

      @wendymiesowitz1897 Everyone following this case and most people on earth would display more concern than JS and SS.

  • @lesleyrulli850
    @lesleyrulli850 26 дней назад +21

    Stephens’parents and Jen all singing the praises of Stephen and NONE OF THEM showing any concern for Maddie!!! what is wrong with these people??????

    • @MVHomestead
      @MVHomestead 26 дней назад +5

      Truly disgusting and shameful! That poor girl! Hopefully no others suffered around these people😞😫😩

    • @lottaohlsson5018
      @lottaohlsson5018 26 дней назад

      They are idiots without compassion.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +4

      Narcissism and Evil

  • @scary6547
    @scary6547 26 дней назад +68

    I’m sorry, but there is something wrong with the entire Sterns family.

    • @emeraldblue5291
      @emeraldblue5291 26 дней назад +1

      Twisted people are usually created by their parents/upbringing not born

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +11

      Yup
      And the Watts family and the Peterson Family and the Bundy family and Dahmer Family
      The list goes on and on and there’s a common factor with them all

    • @looking4things669
      @looking4things669 2 дня назад

      There's no need to apologize for speaking your truth. They are a bunch of delusional screwballs.

  • @susanjane2498
    @susanjane2498 26 дней назад +38

    I would be so embarrassed and literally sick if I found out my son did what Stefan did. No way in hell I would be acting like its cocktail hour spinning some freaking dumb azz story. 🤮

  • @mrs.kitsch8127
    @mrs.kitsch8127 26 дней назад +71

    Did anybody love this little girl?😢

    • @MicrowaveCheese33
      @MicrowaveCheese33 26 дней назад +5

      It doesn't appear any adults in her life cared or were even slightly concerned or interested in her welfare in anyway.

    • @KatenJace
      @KatenJace 26 дней назад +7

      We all do. 😢😢😢

    • @johnmorgun9961
      @johnmorgun9961 26 дней назад +12

      Her grandfather did. He was very upset.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +1

      Her dog
      Her car
      Her bff
      The now public

    • @janinejensen583
      @janinejensen583 25 дней назад +1

      I’m sure GMA loved her vm

  • @msmg88
    @msmg88 26 дней назад +32

    Just when you think it can't get any worse, Jenn literally only shows genuine concern and worry over her medication. None for her own child. I am so sorry Madeline❤

    • @MsMarple
      @MsMarple 23 дня назад +2

      Not condoning, just saying: if she’s not a past CSA victim, I’ll be very surprised. When will we realize that CSA is the gift that keeps on giving? That makes them numb, blind, tolerant of blurred boundaries, drawn like a magnet to similar sexual situations, etc.

  • @TheVelvetTallow
    @TheVelvetTallow 26 дней назад +165

    Omg I’ve given Jenn every benefit of the doubt-thinking that she was just a naive, gullible, overly medicated woman who was just too out of it to realize what was going on. The father explaining her demeanor over lunch after the phone revelations is a turning point for me. Just too much to explain away now

    • @Lisa-r6u1w
      @Lisa-r6u1w 26 дней назад +12

      Me too

    • @Mimyakko
      @Mimyakko 26 дней назад +25

      @@TheVelvetTallow not to mention that she warned his parents that he would need a lawyer. Like wtf. Not a care in the world about justice for her child

    • @evephelpsmarketing
      @evephelpsmarketing 26 дней назад +11

      It’s very natural to want to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I’ve racked my brain trying to think “maybe she didn’t know?”… but then I think about ALL of the evidence and it’s just very hard to think that something very nefarious was going on here and Jenn was not only knowledgeable, but also possibly involved. 😢

    • @amyhenson1878
      @amyhenson1878 25 дней назад +6

      I have also tried to give her some grace but the more I listen to her the less I believe anything she says.

    • @upcycle4earth393
      @upcycle4earth393 25 дней назад +1

      I though maybe the medications kept her this way emotionless

  • @TrueCrime.and.DeathMetal
    @TrueCrime.and.DeathMetal 26 дней назад +30

    I am flabbergasted at how Jen sounds at the end. I’m a mother of two, both close to her daughters age. I know in my heart of hearts that if something happened to one of them I wouldn’t be able to recall if I had medications. Or what medications even are. God, this woman.

  • @wishingyoupeace
    @wishingyoupeace 26 дней назад +41

    No mother can sleep or eat. Except Jen Soto.

    • @Twistypoo
      @Twistypoo 26 дней назад

      And Katie Proudfoot

  • @tracyafig
    @tracyafig 26 дней назад +30

    Mom suddenly cleaning Stephan's room??? Sounds suss.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад

      Not at all
      The interviews with SS childhood friends say it like it was
      They said the mother paid off a roommate not to report SS to the police for recording his girlfriend without consent
      Had he been reported to the police them and again when the ex girlfriend would have reported to the police and demanded a home check after he confessed to her the child sleeps with him and he gets erections
      Maybe Madeline would still be on earth

    • @teritanner7921
      @teritanner7921 25 дней назад +2

      And the dad said he made SS clean his room before he left Sunday!

    • @lovetohuntlovetohunt6241
      @lovetohuntlovetohunt6241 16 дней назад +2

      I hope his mother wasn't going through his room to try to destroy evidence

  • @kaorisan661
    @kaorisan661 26 дней назад +63

    Never throughout this case so far has Jen EVER looked distressed to me. I’d be beside myself.

    • @mandakinimachiraju
      @mandakinimachiraju 26 дней назад +11

      Exactly!!!!! That’s what freaks me out the most!!! She’s so FINE with it all

    • @onemanstrash8233
      @onemanstrash8233 26 дней назад +7

      She has never seemed upset except for the time she was being interviewed by the TV person when he was in the background cracking his knuckles. Since then she just doesn’t seem upset. Has she resigned herself to Maddie not coming back? Is she blaming Maddie?

    • @kaorisan661
      @kaorisan661 26 дней назад +5

      @@onemanstrash8233 She wasn’t upset then either imo. I know how much I love my children and I know that’s not how I’d react if mine went missing x

    • @maaikemartens6086
      @maaikemartens6086 26 дней назад +1

      @@kaorisan661Yes i would go nuts, i would not know what to do with my self.

    • @DarhaLB
      @DarhaLB 7 дней назад +2

      💯. FOR YEARS!!!

  • @carolmorgan5333
    @carolmorgan5333 26 дней назад +55

    They care more about them damn poodles than poor Maddie😢

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +7

      Poodles, reputation and how they are perceived

  • @bean6157
    @bean6157 26 дней назад +175

    UGH!! I’m so mad again. Stephan’s dad is absolutely unfazed by learning what his son was doing to Maddie. Also Jenn, take your stupid meds inside with you, are you 5? Does someone need to hold your hand all day every day? Guess it’s not surprising she did absolutely nothing for Maddie when she can’t even think it’s probably a good idea to take your bag of meds inside with you when you NEED THEM so badly. Ugh I’m just so disgusted. Also I take meds so it’s not about that at all. It’s about the fact that Jenn is insufferable.

    • @ITZCHELSEA2244
      @ITZCHELSEA2244 26 дней назад +4

      To be honest if that was my son i wouldnt be too phased not everyone is overly emotional

    • @Uponnthree
      @Uponnthree 26 дней назад +8

      he could come off unfazed due to being an ex police officer.

    • @mitchandrews2937
      @mitchandrews2937 26 дней назад +3

      His dad used to be a cop.. so he is just stating facts

    • @Mimyakko
      @Mimyakko 26 дней назад +9

      ​@@Uponnthreehe was only a cop for 2 years though. And wasn't that nearly 20 years ago?

    • @nataliecaltrider9201
      @nataliecaltrider9201 26 дней назад +11

      All she talks about is meds. More concerned about her meds than for her daughter!

  • @Jess-bee
    @Jess-bee 26 дней назад +17

    So many people failed Maddie. These people are all such sickos!!!!

  • @ΣΥΝΗΜΠΙΡΙΚΑΚΗ-ξ2ε
    @ΣΥΝΗΜΠΙΡΙΚΑΚΗ-ξ2ε 26 дней назад +54

    I can listen to you for hours ..love your story telling and your accent.thank you for all you do,sorry to have missed the live ..greetings from Athens Greece..❤

    • @GrizzlyTrueCrime
      @GrizzlyTrueCrime  26 дней назад +4

      Thank you so much!

    • @kimberlyponder9523
      @kimberlyponder9523 2 дня назад

      I just found her yesterday, then woke up at 2 am this morning, couldn't go back to sleep. Pulled this back up & ended up looking her up to see where it came from😅 way to go ma'am, loved reading your story and journey !

  • @Itsjustme115
    @Itsjustme115 26 дней назад +24

    We don’t know this young girl Madeline but I sure think she would approve on how respectful you are covering her case Gizela and how this community cares for her and will not stop until all persons involved in hurting her are held accountable. Being Complicate matters

  • @kaorisan661
    @kaorisan661 26 дней назад +35

    Do NOT stop Yakking G! I love your talk and the way you interact with us all

  • @nolamomma6114
    @nolamomma6114 26 дней назад +5

    I have two daughters, a 12 year old and a 13 year old. I cannot imagine behaving the way Jen has. She was completely neglectful of her daughter… in every single way possible. It’s so sad. That baby deserved so much better. How could she not see a change in her only child? I can’t imagine my husband, the father of my children, wanting to snuggle in the bed alone with our daughters at 12 and 13. And that’s their father.

    • @eh-i1841
      @eh-i1841 22 дня назад +1

      And he was abusing her since she was 8.That woman knew,and condoned it.She needs to be in prison,for ever.

  • @chrispettersson6101
    @chrispettersson6101 26 дней назад +73

    The father says that Stephan had been lying to them all his life yet he had been living a double life himself with "pooh* according to Stephans mother. Not excusing what Stephans done, it's shocking, but what a can of worms!!

    • @betsykendrick8179
      @betsykendrick8179 26 дней назад +16

      Agreed. Sins of the parents made malignant in their offspring. Both parents utterly blind.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад

      @@betsykendrick8179 ☝🏾
      These monsters set the blueprint for their little monster and then the little monster became a bigger monster and the rest is history

    • @JEdwarrd
      @JEdwarrd 20 дней назад +5

      @@betsykendrick8179 Abuse is definitely normalized in their family dynamic. Despite their obsession with image.

    • @jennifers.3818
      @jennifers.3818 13 дней назад +1

      Are Stephans Dad and Mom still married??

    • @jennifers.3818
      @jennifers.3818 13 дней назад +3

      But we have no idea if "pooh" was young or not. I can say in that time, Pooh was a common nickname for boyfriends/girlfriends. It doesnt mean she was underage. Im not going to jump to conclusions about the father being a P without some kind of evidence. Thats a horrible thing to claim. The father is at least speaking out and telling truth on his son. Cheating on your wife isnt even comparable to the things Stephens accused of

  • @pammatheson1651
    @pammatheson1651 26 дней назад +10

    Not once did these parents ask about Maddie🙈😭. Neither did her Mom Jen. Shame We love you Maddie ❤❤❤. We are with you and Angels for you my darling 😇😇😇🤗🤗🤗

  • @annabelwarmington4164
    @annabelwarmington4164 26 дней назад +65

    He's so ingratiating with the police. I find him slimey, and he sounds like he has assumed she's dead at this time. I think Stephan's parents know much more about his behaviour than they let on, and are trying to distance themselves. But his tone! And Stephan's mother cleaning out his room immediately, before he was known to be of interest to the police. They are still enabling him in prison. There's something wrong about them. I'd be investigating his father too, just to be sure he's not involved.

    • @MayaGTK
      @MayaGTK 26 дней назад +14

      🚩🚩🚩think SS’ dad had reason beyond “loaning it to SS” to wipe his phone that day, too…the parents make me recoil 🚩🚩🚩

    • @MayaGTK
      @MayaGTK 26 дней назад +12

      Did dad say they just got rid of Ring Cam day before?

    • @kimberlydeeney5652
      @kimberlydeeney5652 26 дней назад +18

      ​@@MayaGTKHe claims he had Comcast then ditched it, and the Ring Camera was connected to that. He mentions I think a new service, but hasn't got around to rehooking it up. Then adds the mode is sitting on his desk. Too much added on BS in my opinion.

    • @MayaGTK
      @MayaGTK 26 дней назад

      @@kimberlydeeney5652 totally. And that's just one example of many. Lost storage key a year ago, but then says he only learned he lost it a week ago so maybe SS has it. Wipes his phone data clean just before SS’ arrest. Changes Ring cam/providers like 1 day before interview? Where's the old footage tho?Says he got lost finding hotel, so it makes sense SS got lost, too. Then he back tracks & says nah, SS not believable about getting lost. Seems v concerned to tell wife about wellness check coming (3x). SS & KS & MS spend all time up in bedroom, but that's totally “normal” in their fam. These are just the surface things from yesterday to today; loads of classic signs of deception. There's def more here

    • @stellaallbright4750
      @stellaallbright4750 26 дней назад +6

      🎯 BINGO!! 🎯

  • @user-bn7ml1ze2t
    @user-bn7ml1ze2t 26 дней назад +15

    Not one word about that poor girl from his father. Now, i understand why it's all about Stephen because that's how his damn dad RAISED HIM. SELF CENTERED

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +4

      The mother too
      Please go listen to SS childhood friends that spill the beans about these parents and SS through the years
      No one was surprised

    • @MsMarple
      @MsMarple 23 дня назад

      @@NF40375 Thanx for the tip. Is it here on RUclips?

  • @Stargazer7279
    @Stargazer7279 26 дней назад +78

    Having a granddaughter this stuff makes u cringe in your stomach will def be keeping a closer watch

    • @ITZCHELSEA2244
      @ITZCHELSEA2244 26 дней назад

      I lost my sister a few years ago it doesn't make me cringe

    • @onemanstrash8233
      @onemanstrash8233 26 дней назад +1

      @@ITZCHELSEA2244I am so sorry for your loss.

    • @ITZCHELSEA2244
      @ITZCHELSEA2244 26 дней назад +1

      @@onemanstrash8233 it was her fault for drink driving I don't shed any tears for her

    • @johnmorgun9961
      @johnmorgun9961 26 дней назад +2

      The internet has made the world more dangerous for youngsters.

    • @pokefan3989
      @pokefan3989 26 дней назад +4

      @@ITZCHELSEA2244you keep commenting on everyone’s comments, why don’t you just let people comment and feel however they want to feel?

  • @Kas-d5b
    @Kas-d5b 26 дней назад +21

    The Dad just finds out his son may have store a dead body in his storage unit and he tells cop stories?

  • @natesanti
    @natesanti 26 дней назад +199

    The dad is very arrogant and conceited, he says a few revealing things that show his character. He mentioned that his neighbors are renters, when there was no need for this comment, but it revealed his mindset bc my mom would say the same about her neighbors who were renters. He owned his home and believed renters were too poor to buy or beneath him. He mentioned two rich neighborhoods and having friends from those neighborhoods. He mentions two big powerful family names, that he said he hung out with. All of these were never asked about, he just slide them into the conversation.
    This tells me he is very aware of appearances and parents this hyper aware of appearances rarely get their kids help when they know their kid is off. Stefan was probably showing signs as a kid and teen of being capable of doing what he did, but his parents were not about to get him help and let others know their kid was defective. Monsters are often raised by other monsters that never got caught.

    • @alix73
      @alix73 26 дней назад +30

      I agree. Both parents sound very narcissistic.

    • @Mimyakko
      @Mimyakko 26 дней назад +35

      They're definitely narcissists! In her last video about them, the first thing Stephan's parents talk about is their weight loss on Ozempic. Absolutely wild. This happened AFTER this interview, where they know Madeline was assaulted for years and that Stephan was arrested for the SA
      Not to mention, they keep bringing up that they breed poodles like that's something to brag about 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @stephaniepiazzese2602
      @stephaniepiazzese2602 26 дней назад +20

      Yes he seems very full of himself.

    • @stephaniepiazzese2602
      @stephaniepiazzese2602 26 дней назад +20

      You are so spot on. They love being the CENTER,, and the love being respected,admired, recognized for their “ accomplishments. “
      But completly unaware or unable to care what things they have FAILED AT.
      LETS SEE,, how much attention he receives now,,
      And mentioning the “ renter “s?? Yes,, says it all. Like renters are INSECTS 😡😡🥺🥺😳😳

    • @stephaniepiazzese2602
      @stephaniepiazzese2602 26 дней назад +3

      @@Mimyakkothat’s just gross. 🤮🤮

  • @laure26
    @laure26 25 дней назад +4

    The father was most shocked that his son had the ability to get up a 7 am

  • @gigij2158
    @gigij2158 26 дней назад +113

    Dad is a little too chatty for me.

    • @johnchaulk
      @johnchaulk 26 дней назад +5

      Nothing suspicious about that. He’s finding out that his son is a monster and he’s reacting to it.

    • @johnmorgun9961
      @johnmorgun9961 26 дней назад +14

      He's a salesman.

    • @sassyfrass4295
      @sassyfrass4295 26 дней назад +19

      Dad paid JS $66 monthly for SS room #4.
      Dad had a storga eunit which contained an active internet connection and all kinds of computor equioment stacked on a shelving unti.
      Dad stated that SS sure had lot of packages delivered to their home BUT had No JOB.
      SS dad is a former Cop.
      Dad knew imo .... but the chatty was a cover ?
      this whole thing i s looking like illegal activity by many and maybe why MS was not helped by anyone?

    • @evephelpsmarketing
      @evephelpsmarketing 26 дней назад +8

      Yeah, when you are talking about your son going to jail for life or death, why are you making small talk?! 😂

    • @evephelpsmarketing
      @evephelpsmarketing 26 дней назад +2

      @@sassyfrass4295was it $600 or $66? And wouldn’t they be able to check the records for the WiFi connection at the storage unit?

  • @tabbydawn
    @tabbydawn 26 дней назад +11

    G, aside from this case, I just want to say, that I love how plainly you state your boundaries. This is something I'm currently learning. Thank you and take care of yourself! ❤

  • @hoosierhunny5001
    @hoosierhunny5001 26 дней назад +46

    The father never shuts up 😮

  • @socialbutterfly4146
    @socialbutterfly4146 26 дней назад +49

    They have PLENTY on Stephan without Jens testimony!!
    NO PLEA DEAL OR IMMUNITY FOR HER!!!
    She is JUST as guilty!!

    • @Womenswarrior-v3f
      @Womenswarrior-v3f 26 дней назад +3

      I think that too however I think they will want her on the stand identify his genitals in person it has more of an impact on the jury maybe 🤔

    • @alliespillane
      @alliespillane 26 дней назад

      His Mother can ID his penis! Doesn’t need to be Jen

    • @waitaminute2015
      @waitaminute2015 26 дней назад +3

      I don't think they need her to nail him either. I think they just can't prove she knew. Many of these moms choose denial.

  • @donna-w7u
    @donna-w7u 26 дней назад +30

    I don’t hear any concern about the girl ever 😢

  • @thaismagallanes6679
    @thaismagallanes6679 26 дней назад +9

    Thank you for being a voice of justice for Madeline, many mothers shout for justice, Jennsoto is a cunning woman, now they need her, let's wait when she faces the judge, they all knew, Maddie told them.

  • @italiangirl76
    @italiangirl76 26 дней назад +75

    SS 's whole family is unhinged! Not one word of condolences or sadness for Maddie!
    Cold cold, emotionally stunted people!

  • @lindalopez5097
    @lindalopez5097 21 день назад +4

    Justice for Maddie!! Jenn should also be arrested. Thank you for all your research.

  • @sunshiney.333
    @sunshiney.333 26 дней назад +124

    His son is arrested for heinous crimes and he's chit chatting about his career while giggling 😳😳

    • @Truthgirdlz2me
      @Truthgirdlz2me 26 дней назад +7

      Exactly!!

    • @tracyafig
      @tracyafig 26 дней назад +8

      Interesting, right? Me talk. Why?

    • @kimberlydeeney5652
      @kimberlydeeney5652 26 дней назад +16

      Something nefarious with Pop's here. A little girl was murdered for God's sake. That Detective is on to his BS.

    • @gr9515
      @gr9515 26 дней назад +18

      These people come off as psychos. There's no way this is normal

    • @stephaniepiazzese2602
      @stephaniepiazzese2602 26 дней назад +16

      That is what Narcs do. They make EVERY CONVERSATION ABOUT THEMSELVES. EVERY TIME. EVERY SITUATION. EVEN NOW, with a murder of a child. 😢

  • @kgreenhill1981
    @kgreenhill1981 26 дней назад +19

    I don’t understand how Jenn isn’t being charged??? Her negligence is a cause of her child’s death ! It’s sickening

  • @Dustyp3ar
    @Dustyp3ar 26 дней назад +78

    "Was the body in Jen's car?" Chris Stearns .... after being informed his son has been arrested for sezual bat... how did he know Maddie was now a body at this time??!

    • @monroeglam
      @monroeglam 26 дней назад +17

      Parents intuition

    • @sj9410
      @sj9410 26 дней назад +26

      He was a cop....and it's not rocket science

    • @lauram7803
      @lauram7803 26 дней назад +17

      ​@@sj9410 was he really or did he just say he was? Casey Anthony father was a cop also (fr)

    • @chelsea3564
      @chelsea3564 26 дней назад +5

      ​@@sj9410right it's also common sense, he had to get rid of her some how.

    • @21_f_aus
      @21_f_aus 26 дней назад +5

      Even I suspected she was dead, I hoped shecwasn't and she'd be found alive, but knew she's probably dead, so him saying that doesn't surprise me, even I probably would have asked that too...

  • @wishingyoupeace
    @wishingyoupeace 26 дней назад +70

    His use of language “loves the shit out of her” is gross considering this sweet girl is missing. Rough crude language. I hate that Maddie was surrounded by people who appeared capable but were in actuality, perverse & far from warm, nurturing, & loving. 😢

    • @tammymakin4751
      @tammymakin4751 26 дней назад +6

      Yes it's beyond words
      Well said
      She was showing in so many ways
      Help me
      As child victims do
      Notes
      Drawings
      Scared of dark
      So so many sights
      No one cared
      Disgusting

    • @thatswhatshesaid6326
      @thatswhatshesaid6326 26 дней назад +7

      His parents lived almost 3 hours away. They weren’t around Maddie, hardly ever. His perception is that his son loved her. As a parent you would never in a 1 million years ever want to believe your child could do such horrific acts of violence.

    • @Edgeley
      @Edgeley 25 дней назад

      Given SS’s love of an*l s*x “love the sh!t” Is prophetic

    • @tammymakin4751
      @tammymakin4751 25 дней назад +1

      @thatswhatshesaid6326 they new alot about Maddie & her mum
      They stayed over at times at parents
      Stephans mother new when Maddie first started her menstrual cycle
      The parents where yes people to stephan,did alot ,
      His mother cleaned up after him
      His bedroom His washing,he went between the 2 houses
      His mother found a torso doll in his room and who knows what
      Thete opinion of Jenn being unstable
      Both of them sleeping alot,drugs,
      They new alot

    • @skygodess87
      @skygodess87 25 дней назад +1

      @@wishingyoupeace No compassion!!! No class!!!

  • @StarkJerk
    @StarkJerk 26 дней назад +53

    I want to know why they all know the ins and outs of Maddie’s puberty and menstrual cycle? Surely that’s something only she and her mom would really know about. I did notice that Stephan said she’d recently started her period but his parents said she started at eleven and developed quickly?
    Another thing that should be pointed out is that someone like Maddie who has been exposed to things far beyond her years are likely to display signs that are not age-appropriate, through no fault of their own. They often don’t know what’s normal and what’s not. What if, with the fact that she had a crush on a boy, Stephan was worried she’d take things beyond a usual innocent 12/13 year old relationship? She’d likely try to engage in adult behaviours with the boy her age and questions would be raised quickly if that came out. All eyes would soon be on Stephan, mom’s partner who has so much access to Maddie. Maddie at 13 may have just started learning about sex at school or with friends chatting but the things she’d have known would be far more than what is normal for her age. Poor girl.

    • @Lighthouse6104
      @Lighthouse6104 26 дней назад

      Yess I've been saying this! It is so creepy and alarming how many times those 3 bring up Maddie starting puberty! 🤮 I hate these people man 😡 they're all evil.

    • @MsK_1111
      @MsK_1111 26 дней назад

      Actually in this current climate kids know a lot about s€x, have you seen the books they are showing middle school kids? They literally teach them acts some adults have never done.

    • @Twistypoo
      @Twistypoo 26 дней назад +1

      Sometimes girlfriends (meaning Jenn) talk to boyfriends moms. Could be as simple as that. I was always close with mine, especially after 7 years.

    • @StarkJerk
      @StarkJerk 26 дней назад +7

      @@Twistypoo Maybe in a normal situation but they don’t like Jenn and Jenn is barely ever awake or interested in her own child, so I don’t think so?

    • @looking4things669
      @looking4things669 14 дней назад +2

      Their shameless chatter about Maddie's menstrual cycle and refusal to acknowledge boundaries could indicate that child se*ual ab*se has been their toxic family pattern for generations.

  • @sophieh9387
    @sophieh9387 26 дней назад +12

    These deep dives have been incredible!
    Thank you so much!!!

  • @tracyafig
    @tracyafig 26 дней назад +50

    Imo they have enough evidence on Stephan that LE doesn’t need Jenn to testify against him for immunity.

    • @alliespillane
      @alliespillane 26 дней назад +6

      EXACTLY!

    • @MsK_1111
      @MsK_1111 26 дней назад +3

      Theres nothing released by LE to elude to her being star witness.

    • @Twistypoo
      @Twistypoo 26 дней назад +6

      @@MsK_1111then they need to arrest her for negligence leading to the death of a child.

    • @carlenebailey7741
      @carlenebailey7741 23 дня назад +3

      @@Twistypoothey need to arrest her for trafficking her child when she sent her up to sleep with a 37 yo man in a SINGLE BED.

  • @jlob5296
    @jlob5296 26 дней назад +7

    Where is this man’s concern for Maddie?! Nonexistent. Unbelievable..

  • @user-qi4ff5in9z
    @user-qi4ff5in9z 26 дней назад +32

    Jen, being complicit in Maddie’s abuse, would want to keep her daughter as destabilized as possible, and discussing end of the world conflicts would help do that. She would want her daughter to be compliant, and inducing fear in the outside world would do that, plus it would lessen the chances that Maddie would trust any adult enough to report the abuse. Also, Jen and Stephen seem to be fans of big pharma. Keeping Maddie anxious enough o have meds prescribed would give them a source of meds for them to use themselves, or drug Maddie in order to lessen her ability to resist, or possibly remember all the details of her abuse. Poor Madeline deserved so much better.

    • @Truthgirdlz2me
      @Truthgirdlz2me 26 дней назад

      His parents stated their son and Jens relationship was all drug related. Apparently they had been committing prescription fraud from the very beginning. Little Maddie was used for this purpose. Happens all day everyday across this country. 20mg of Adderall would put me in a straight jacket. Sad 😢

  • @leilym961
    @leilym961 26 дней назад +13

    As a mother of a two young men, I feel for his parents, but then again they enabled his behavior, giving him 'spending money' at over 30 or paying his rent?? wth

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад

      Never feel for these parents
      Or Watts’ parents or Petersons Parents or any parents who have any sign of narcissism on the spectrum
      These monsters set the blueprint and raised little monsters then let lose in the world on the innocent

  • @fizizfuzzies
    @fizizfuzzies 26 дней назад +24

    I love your solid boundaries and how gently & kindly you set them. 🥰 P.S. Personal & case-related.

  • @agro2057
    @agro2057 26 дней назад +13

    She shows emotion about her drugs and no emotion about her daughter missing. And then sa’d and then dead!!! That’s the first real emotion I’ve heard from her!

  • @Grizzly-Cat
    @Grizzly-Cat 26 дней назад +29

    Have I told you lately how impressive your coverage is?
    👑❤

  • @socialbutterfly4146
    @socialbutterfly4146 26 дней назад +10

    Thank God that person saw and recognized the car!! That is how they found Madeline 💔💔💔

  • @kimstinson
    @kimstinson 26 дней назад +88

    When I was growing up, opposite genders were not allowed in any room of the house with the door closed. No exceptions. What's the world coming too.

    • @skygodess87
      @skygodess87 26 дней назад +5

      @@kimstinson Rule in our home growing up!! Door must be open!!!

    • @kimstinson
      @kimstinson 26 дней назад +2

      @@skygodess87 Amen

    • @Weissguys6
      @Weissguys6 26 дней назад +2

      It’s still that way in our home!

    • @pikas_palace
      @pikas_palace 26 дней назад +10

      That's weird, most families aren't perverted, it shouldn't be a big deal

    • @jasminefrichtl806
      @jasminefrichtl806 26 дней назад +1

      Unless there's an intruder inside your home & daughter & father are hiding but other than that I agree with you

  • @LG-rescues
    @LG-rescues 26 дней назад +44

    That poor investigator having to listen to all of Daddy's life history!! 🤮

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +2

      ☝🏾

  • @anabanana5333
    @anabanana5333 26 дней назад +35

    Jen and Deborah seem similar in their victim mentality and making their "disabilities" their entire personality. It's interesting that SS gravitated toward Jen after being brought up by DS and that he also was allergic to work. It's also funny to see the distain both women had for each other given they are similar. His dad's work ethic didnt stand a chance against Deborahs incessant coddling and excuses she made for him his whole life (as it seems shes full of excuses for her own abuse and lack of motivation too). He tried to give SS opportunities and instilling some kind of motivation in him but ended up financially taking care of an adult baby boy while resenting it the whole time (at his coddling wife's insistence?). In the end it seems DS, SS AND JS were all reliant on Chris.
    Also interesting that SS became a sneaky, compulsive liar living a double life after what we know about his father's past.
    Very fascinating interviews.

    • @tracyafig
      @tracyafig 26 дней назад +7

      Agree. Similarities for sure.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад

      They set the blueprint
      Two narc monsters raised one plus you stir in more evil with SS free will and you have this outcome
      It’s straight spirtual warfare and they are Godless and sinister

  • @TeaWildflowers
    @TeaWildflowers 26 дней назад +4

    Thank you G for providing us with the additional details in this case in a safe and respectful way. I truly appreciate that you have done your due diligence with the material and are protecting Madeline’s dignity and shielding the young friends. Also I really want the mom in custody for child negligence at a minimum if they don’t have anything else on her. She better not get away from her role in all of this. Justice for Maddie. 💜💚💜💚🦋

  • @libralillyknits
    @libralillyknits 26 дней назад +26

    Why was he even coming there??
    Jen & Stephan hadn’t seen each other in 6? weeks. Jen home 10:30, sent them to bed at 11pm
    So she hasn’t seen her BF in six weeks, sees him for 30 mins, then sends her child daughter to go sleep with him ?

    • @gr9515
      @gr9515 26 дней назад +19

      From the evidence it sounds like she was pimping her daughter out. It's horrible to think of it this way but all the evidence points this way.... She def knew about what he was doing and allowed it. Almost seems like she arranged it....ugh I hate these people. This poor child

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад

      @@gr9515it is horrible to think but it’s reality not fantasy
      None of us should be with our eyes and ears shut off to this because it’s very much real and happens way more often than anyone would like to admit

    • @catherinejoy4588
      @catherinejoy4588 5 дней назад +1

      Just absolutely horrible!! I think just maybe Maddie called Stephen around her birthday and was probably mad at him becuz just maybe she was pregnant!!!!

    • @viviansmith5060
      @viviansmith5060 День назад

      I've wondered about autopsy evidence ​@@catherinejoy4588

  • @Hotmamatlo
    @Hotmamatlo 26 дней назад +11

    The mother wants to find a way to not blame her son. They have coddled him all his life. It’s extremely sad.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад

      It’s evil

  • @catbones1
    @catbones1 26 дней назад +34

    His parents were the perfect subjects in perfecting his grooming and manipulation tactics , growing up .

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +1

      ☝🏾

    • @diannlimo4502
      @diannlimo4502 25 дней назад

      the father and mother style of parenting not at all uncommon in the US. Entitled. Coddled. Gen z Millennials

  • @MortishaPoppins
    @MortishaPoppins 26 дней назад +10

    They didn't like their son and Jen didn't like her daughter

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад

      ☝🏾

  • @877swissmiss
    @877swissmiss 26 дней назад +95

    Wow the dad: „I‘m pissed that he had done this to us“ Still, they don‘t seem to care a bit about Maddie😳?! I get it, he‘s their son and they are disappointed but Maddie was missing, hellooo?! A 13y old child and they know their son did probably something to her, else the cops wouldn‘t be talking to them so extensively investigating SS past, timeline around Maddies disappearance when SS was the last person with her etc. I‘m shocked about this total lack of concern for Maddie‘s wellbeing!! I mean they knew her and even with a child they didn‘t know this would send alarm bells off to me! Literally no one cared although all are talking of quite disturbing things they had witnessed w either SS and Maddie or JS and Maddie! What‘s wrong with these people, I just don‘t get it! They all try to somehow blame Maddie for the disturbing stuff in one or the other way, I find that very concerning and most of all incredibly sad for Maddie!
    I know it‘s easy to judge in hindsight knowing what happend but even without that there‘s so many weird expressions, events, just too many red flags in Maddie‘s environment that i can‘t believe no one suspected what was going on but then listening to these parents I have to wonder about their way of perspective and general attitude towards other human beings. How can they be so relaxed most of the time during these questions when they just learned their son had sth to do with a child‘s disappearance?! At least that they knew at this point and they themselves talked about how weird the „rs“ was their son seemed to have or think to have with Maddie! Aren‘t they connecting the dots or aren‘t they feeling anything or what is it?! I‘m out of words for all the circumstances that made it possible for Maddie to suffer that much without ANYone being there for her except some friends,I‘m glad she had some friends but how the h should she ever trust someone to confide when no one seemed to care about her of the adults and the only one who seemed at times nice (in her perception as a child) was the same person who did all the unthinkable horrific stuff to her!? That must have been so confusing and very hard to cope with in any way!! Absolutely heartbreaking and terrible!! She must have felt so alone, so overwhelmed, no wonder she couldn‘t express to the counselor what it was that made her panic, what the core of her issues were…She jokingly stated SS was weird… She tried to talk about him I guess but couldn‘t say more than that, probably just to overwhelming and confusing, all the emotions and the situation at home😭
    I never felt so desperate about a case where a child was unalived, I almost can‘t take it at times but still coming back to learn more. What a tragic case…

    • @Truthgirdlz2me
      @Truthgirdlz2me 26 дней назад +7

      @@877swissmiss because it's all about Me Me Me, typical narcissist just like his son! Apple didn't fall far from the tree

    • @verapena9465
      @verapena9465 26 дней назад +4

      Right there with you

    • @susanmcstravick
      @susanmcstravick 26 дней назад +3

      The dad acts like it’s just another day. Wtf

    • @eh1702
      @eh1702 26 дней назад +5

      It is so sad that every adult (maybe except Stephan’s father) is putting responsibility onto Maddie for the way her mother and Stephan used her. Even pretending to assign her reluctance to leave the shower in the evenings to “bipolar” rather than being forced to sleep with a middle aged man.
      The worst of it is, Maddie’s friends were very aware she was intensely unhappy. Nobody else seems to have noticed it. Just conveniently medicalised any inconvenient emotions, without considering external causes.
      Probably in future years, as those kids mature, they will realise that some of the things she said had so much more significance than they could pick up on as kids.
      Also some of them may well have known there was something sleazy about the “stepfather”, but also known that no adult was going to take Maddie seriously, that nobody would want to deal with it. Maybe this is why she was taking notes from internet sites; she was trying to figure out how to disclose what was going on without being just dismissed and left at his mercy.

    • @eh1702
      @eh1702 26 дней назад +3

      When your mom instructs you to go take a shower, take your night medicine then go to that room and sleep with a middle aged guy, because she herself “needs good sleep”, it is something that, if you have done it since you can remember, would not at first strike you as wrong. Especially if you sometimes sleep with both. Early on, years before, her mother must have dismissed her complaints, until, when he was doing the most extreme stuff, she knew to not even try to get help from her mother. She was apparently a bright kid: she knew that her mother knew and didn’t want to know. Jen lived off him and he lived off his father. And when he didn’t get financial support from his parents, he just stole from them.

  • @pickyaf3376
    @pickyaf3376 26 дней назад +4

    Replay here!!! Idk if it's been said but 1- Stephan's mom was crying (first day, you can hear it when shes on the phone) 2-the howl a mother makes when there child is killed, is a cry NO ONE can mistake it. Jenn. NEVER. Cried.

  • @mayak1599
    @mayak1599 26 дней назад +23

    Dad wiped his phone before handing it to son, then to LE. They need to check that data, too (if enough to get warrant ... i mean, Stefan had the phone that had the dad's data, right??)

    • @mayak1599
      @mayak1599 26 дней назад +7

      and OMG what else was in that storage unit??

  • @RockPaintingLady
    @RockPaintingLady 26 дней назад +6

    Replay: sterns parents are just happy to have someone to tell their stories

  • @wereallmadhere7921
    @wereallmadhere7921 26 дней назад +24

    I AM VERY VERY VERY SUS OF OLE DADDY DEAR. IF I NEVER SEE THE VIDEO OF STEPHAN ENTERING THE STORAGE PLACE, I WILL BE CONVIENCED THAT DAD KNOWS AND THAT HARD DRIVE WAS HIS.

    • @noway1593
      @noway1593 7 дней назад

      I don’t think so. I think it was Stephen.

    • @viviansmith5060
      @viviansmith5060 День назад

      ​@@noway1593could be a subject they shared an interest in...not unheard of

  • @SisterGoldenHair212
    @SisterGoldenHair212 26 дней назад +4

    *for those of us that are poor, myself battling cancer, I wish that after your membership content could be shown to members even if it is 23/48+ later that us members could see!
    But I still give you a huge Thanks You for all the hard work you put into these cases! You are my favorite TC creator!!! ✌️💯👍❣️

  • @kaorisan661
    @kaorisan661 26 дней назад +35

    Why is the father just having normal conversation now about random stuff and laughing when he’s just been told about his sons arrest?

    • @led2light423
      @led2light423 26 дней назад +4

      Maybe he is in a little bit of shock? Maybe he can’t bring himself to believe it? Maybe - as most parents do - they love their son and their entire perception of a normal day is completely distorted? Just a thought

    • @gr9515
      @gr9515 26 дней назад +9

      He was a cop. He knows damn well what his son was up to. He knew something was up. More worried about cars, where his son would be transported and making sure Jenn made it home than about the harm that was done to this poor child by his monster son.

    • @kimberlydeeney5652
      @kimberlydeeney5652 26 дней назад +10

      ​@@gr9515Exactly. The father is a BS artist. Albeit he was only a cop for two years you know your son is a liar, and a thief. From his own mouth he lied to them for years. He knew, and not once showed care or concern for Maddie in this tape. The Detective is doing a great job feeding his ego.

    • @gr9515
      @gr9515 26 дней назад +7

      @@kimberlydeeney5652 100%! a chatty box giving the circumstances is so weird too. The small talk everything... Just plain weird.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +3

      Narcissism and they are only concerned about their reputation, how they are perceived and what will happen to them or said about them
      That’s all
      It’s all about them
      Say how offended when the cops asked about mental illness and the father goes “me?!?!” And they said no, your son and the father barley knew anything and skimmed over it fast

  • @catbones1
    @catbones1 26 дней назад +13

    I bet the investigators are giving the side eye at daddy dearest ....

  • @vonickles5033
    @vonickles5033 26 дней назад +55

    Those parents suck imo especially the mother

    • @Lou-xq9br
      @Lou-xq9br 26 дней назад +2

      💯

    • @kerrineilson597
      @kerrineilson597 26 дней назад +12

      But think about it…. They are handing their son over to the police. They are giving them all of the evidence, telling them everything Stefan said. They aren’t covering for him. But they love him. They are still his parents. I think they are doing the right thing, but are still blinded by their love for their son. I’ll allow them a little bit of disillusion.

    • @led2light423
      @led2light423 26 дней назад +7

      @@kerrineilson597 agree. Who can say how we would act in their position. I would be in a daze on autopilot until I could take the time to process it in my head. I can’t stand to hear what someone thinks someone else “should” act like.

    • @Lisa-r6u1w
      @Lisa-r6u1w 26 дней назад +1

      ​@@kerrineilson597they're withholding evidence in a missing child case that would catch them a jail cell too

    • @Lisa-r6u1w
      @Lisa-r6u1w 26 дней назад

      ​@@led2light423listen to what you just said

  • @PretzelsAndCornbread
    @PretzelsAndCornbread 26 дней назад +14

    I feel like all the parents did was talk about things to make themselves sound like parents that "would never raise such a disaster of a human" because they're so worldly. But it is exactly what they've done. Listening to them is jaw-dropping. WOW - I feel disgusted listening to them. So dysfunctional.

    • @NF40375
      @NF40375 25 дней назад +2

      It’s straight narcissism on the spectrum
      Nothing new
      Seen it once, seen it a thousand times
      Monsters created a monster
      They set the blue print

    • @ajordan1976
      @ajordan1976 8 часов назад

      They were on hidden true crime last night.
      The things that they said was even more jaw dropping if you can believe that!
      I won't give you the details but beware it enrage you if you go listen.
      The comments were even more enraging!!

  • @alissaakers5422
    @alissaakers5422 26 дней назад +17

    What else could Maddie have told Stephan on Saturday before her party on Sunday that would give him so much anxiety???

    • @Truthgirdlz2me
      @Truthgirdlz2me 26 дней назад +2

      She wasn't going to keep taking Adderall. His drug of choice.

    • @tracyafig
      @tracyafig 26 дней назад +8

      My thoughts exactly...what got him sooo anxious he was asking parents for anxiety medication!! Btw that's a tell that one or both parents may utilize medication for anxiety, otherwise would he ask?

    • @BridgetStaats
      @BridgetStaats 20 дней назад

      Pregnant

    • @Truthgirdlz2me
      @Truthgirdlz2me 19 дней назад

      @@BridgetStaats affidavit would say so

  • @socialbutterfly4146
    @socialbutterfly4146 26 дней назад +7

    She knew!!!
    She knew it ALL!!!

  • @heatherocker4067
    @heatherocker4067 26 дней назад +69

    Maddy didn't actually need to be pregnant to die for it. He could have believed she was pregnant and acted accordingly. Maybe she put the scare into him. It would explain why he was so on edge before he went to Kissimmee that weekend.

    • @missmiss5051
      @missmiss5051 26 дней назад +14

      That's what I was thinking

    • @annabelwarmington4164
      @annabelwarmington4164 26 дней назад

      Yes ​@@missmiss5051, my thoughts too.

    • @ITZCHELSEA2244
      @ITZCHELSEA2244 26 дней назад +6

      My dad wasn't that afraid after i got pregnant cause it wasnt like anyone would be able to know what he was doing

    • @MayaGTK
      @MayaGTK 26 дней назад

      @@ITZCHELSEA2244wdym

    • @annabelwarmington4164
      @annabelwarmington4164 26 дней назад +8

      @ITZCHELSEA2244 I'm so sorry you were in, and had to deal with that situation.

  • @toffeesock
    @toffeesock 16 дней назад +1

    Love the way you made your boundaries clear in such a respectful way, most of all respectful to yourself which is so important ❤

  • @trishemerald2487
    @trishemerald2487 26 дней назад +31

    (Re: "...for my son and me" is in fact grammatically correct. It should be written that way. It should be the same as "for me." )

  • @Kylee737
    @Kylee737 26 дней назад +12

    The roommate saw Stephan washing… there are no sheets on Jen’s bed. Could he have been washing Jen’s sheets, and if so why?

    • @viviansmith5060
      @viviansmith5060 День назад

      I believe she participated in some of the SA while Jen was unconscious

  • @Brrrettt
    @Brrrettt 26 дней назад +19

    Sick today. Now I’m finally home actually really looking forward to hear your voice G. You are changing lives!❤💕

  • @becauseentropy8646
    @becauseentropy8646 26 дней назад +4

    18:17 The way the dad describes talking to Jen, reminds me of how SS described *fake* talking to Maddie when he was *fake* dropping her off at school.
    “I parked and then she opened the door. ‘I love you.’ ‘I love you too.’ ‘Have good day.’ ‘Thanks! You too.’ And then she got out of the car and started shambling towards school.”
    Most people describe their conversations w someone in a narrative structure, by using indicators like “I asked her/then she said/I told him/then he was like/so I said/etc.”
    But I’ve noticed both CS and SS will often just RECITE the conversation back, as if reading a dialogue between two roles in a script or play.
    It doesn’t sound natural. Just recall a recent conversation you had w someone, and try to retell it without using any phrases like “I said, she told me, I told him, etc.” It takes effort to leave out these phrases, especially with the way our brain recalls the memory.

  • @kelvis6717
    @kelvis6717 26 дней назад +29

    35000 photos. Maybe not his “direct victims “ but they are someone’s victim. Someone’s child. That’s just saddening. Hopefully they are investigating deeper.

    • @eh-i1841
      @eh-i1841 22 дня назад

      They will be,that’s for sure.

  • @lisasolis7399
    @lisasolis7399 26 дней назад +12

    If anything, Jen needs to be arrested even if it's just for child neglect, for now.
    Maybe we ALL need to start calling them and telling to get their shit together and arrest the POS mother.

  • @ladymmm100
    @ladymmm100 26 дней назад +63

    I said it once, i’ll say it again: Stephan Sterns had a 13 yr old girlfriend, Jennifer was just her mother.

    • @VictoriaMarch13
      @VictoriaMarch13 26 дней назад +11

      I'm a little confused. Are you saying she was a willing participant or that in his mind she was his gf?

    • @Uncaged_cricket
      @Uncaged_cricket 26 дней назад +20

      An 8,9,10,11, 12 and 13 year old baby girl, you mean

    • @MayaGTK
      @MayaGTK 26 дней назад

      Ya the mother who essentially tr*ffkd / pimped out her daughter to a 37 yo ex bf 🤮Jenn “sent” them to bed together. They had their own room, which SS paid Jenn for. Actually, SS’ father paid for. There’s an even deeper nastiness to this story, I can feel it (no dream tho)

    • @amyq6229
      @amyq6229 26 дней назад +20

      ⁠@@VictoriaMarch13she was a minor no matter the circumstances she was NEVER A WILLING PARTICIPANT

    • @midnightmoon3550
      @midnightmoon3550 26 дней назад +12

      most pics she was asleep...drugged!!!

  • @debsdaughter
    @debsdaughter 26 дней назад +6

    Absolutely right about the first floor, G. Interesting that they have another fridge and microwave on the second floor. Guessing the common areas on the first floor aren’t used much by the roommates.

  • @MayaGTK
    @MayaGTK 26 дней назад +30

    I don’t trust these parents one bit. Not one bit. Don’t take anything they say at face value.

    • @annabelwarmington4164
      @annabelwarmington4164 26 дней назад +9

      I agree. His Dad's a total creep. Talking and laughing about real estate and trying to be one of the boys with the cops. He almost sounds like he's trying to set his son up... There's something very wrong in that house. Maddie is missing at this point, he's telling long-winded stories... wasting time. His folks know something.

    • @carolmorgan5333
      @carolmorgan5333 26 дней назад +5

      I agree 100%

  • @Nancy.B
    @Nancy.B 26 дней назад +7

    I knew there had to be skeletons in this families closet. Snoots 😂 I wonder why the dad stopped working in LE?! There’s a rabbit hole🐇 🕳️

  • @r.dwoodruff501
    @r.dwoodruff501 26 дней назад +17

    Having to re-listen to this live as I missed the first 25 minutes thank you for all you do

  • @trishschultz8563
    @trishschultz8563 26 дней назад +19

    Chris Sterns was only worried about losing business. He didn’t express any concerns for poor Maddie. What a douche bag!

  • @lorisutherland7728
    @lorisutherland7728 26 дней назад +17

    I’m glad the dad was truthful. The problem is that Jenn didn’t think the sex is evil with her daughter. Also if she’s a 13 yr old out trying to get sex . She really needs help. Or she was taught that sex is how you are liked and or can get people to do what you want.
    She is not old enough to say yes . So it’s a crime.

  • @mishmichelle9388
    @mishmichelle9388 26 дней назад +2

    It is interesting that we are all listening and hearing the same audio and interpreting it so differently. Thanks for all your hard work Gisela!

    • @dmh2000
      @dmh2000 26 дней назад +2

      Father is acting as if he’s in charge of the interview

  • @valhershberger1958
    @valhershberger1958 26 дней назад +20

    You do such an amazing job on these cases. Thank you for all your hard work!