"Met Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley has defended his decision to ban officers from wearing the thin blue line badge." If it is a ban, why are officers still choosing to wear the badge? If I was banned from driving, would I be able to drive still??
@@leavemyrightsalone in a normal company situation, if I disobeyed my boss I would expect to be sacked. The blue line is abused by some constables and can be considered as defacing the flag and a gang badge to support constables in their wrong doing, protecting their own. The comparison comes straight from the USA where it is considered by the US citizens as a blatant gang badge. The badge basically goes against the appearance of impartiality of the UK force.😎
This is a gang badge and it's disgusting some officer's where it. The fact they deface the Union Flag its disrespectful to every serving and fallen Armed services personnel. Totally disgusting.
One of the memories from my generation is of a line of British marine's or paras carrying full kit stretching off to the mountains in the distance as they prepared to yomp 56 miles to Port Stanley in order to take it back by force from the Argentines. The rear marine/para was flying a union jack flag above his backpack. Many many people lost their lives in that conflict in order that the union jack could be hoisted over Port Stanley. The people who wear that thin blue line badge are despicable, ignorant and obviously from a different generation. I personally would not converse with anyone wearing the thin blue line except to tell them what I think of them and then walk away.
I’ve questioned many “what’s that badge” the response I’ve had from 37 constables is “ I’m not sure, don’t really know , etc!” Not one yet has told me the correct answer! And the answers I normally get is “ takes too many hours” really!
The simple answer to this is refuse to engage with any constable that has a thin blue line badge on. Full stop period. In the street. Or in an interview under caution. If you are interviewed under caution and the constable is wearing a thin blue line badge. State for and on the record that you will not be answering any questions from an officer you feel is part of a gang within the police. You feel that they are not going to be impartial or fair. And keep stating that.
@240hz-0- that is what it's meant to be, but it's very clear that those who wear it are 9/10 the worst of the bunch and do wear it to let the other corrupt constables know they have their back
@@240hz-0-it’s all about the gang they are disrespecting our British forces, who have died, been disfigured and mental damaged by fighting in wars for them to be able to ware our uniform, they fought for our flag the real British flags for what cops who disrespect, hurt and take our rights away from their own people. We the people don’t like it, what about the people who have died or murder in there care, just saying the truth were is their badge 🤷
@@240hz-0- Sadly, YOU are mistaken. The Thin Blue Line is a symbol used by law enforcement, originating in the United Kingdom but now prevalent in the United States, Canada, Australia, Belgium, Switzerland and Poland to commemorate fallen and to show support for the living law enforcement officers and to symbolize the relationship of law enforcement in the community as the protectors of the community from criminals and victimization. i.e. it is NOT just about representing "the fallen officers who have died in the line of duty." It's YOU, therefore, that needs to look it up!
Interesting investigation, Ace! I feel a lot of police standards have slipped - you see a lot of scruffy, gum-chewing, hands-in-pockets, shifty thugs in auditing videos, and I remember being held to a higher standard when I was 11 at school. I think it's a bit distateful to modify the Union Flag, but I'm not that worried - some people seem to confuse loving a flag with being patriotic. Police are free to support whatever charities and causes they want - put stickers in their cars or lockers or on their own clothes, no problem. But the whole point of the uniform is to make them identifiable as a trusted crown servant to the public. The message that this thin blue line badge sends to me is that they will always prioritise looking after each other over doing what's right - so "gang badge" maybe isn't a bad name for it.
Oh they turned up at my bro house after we were filming the police cars council house and mp building in atherstone. We were there for ages they could have came out. So to me that was intimidation tactics. If that’s not gang behaviour 🤔🙄😡
At last, somebody explains what the badge is ? It has been commented on a lot regarding auditors but never explained as to what it represents. Another extremely informative video, Thank you .
5:50 No information held means there is no policy or memo or guidance or rule that specifically bans the badge or allows it. Therefore the only thing that applies is the law. So therefore the TBL badge is not allowed.
I am not a fan of any flag that has the colours changed. Personally, I see this as a mark of disrespect to all emergency and military personnel who have served in any capacity. To serve your country is to sacrifice you everyday freedoms, to expose you to mentally damaging and distressing situations, and lastly to potentially sacrifice you life and limb for country. These sacrifices are significant and should be honoured and respected always. Secondly, the ‘thin blue line’ on a bleached flag has direct links to far right movements and the black slave trade/American Civil War. Due to these direct references/links, it makes the patch a political one, which goes against the code of conduct of a police officer as they must be always seen as politically impartial and can cause serious offence to people. Thirdly, the symbology of the patch demonstrates an attitude of separation from the police to the public - creating a ‘us vs them’ perception which suggests that they cannot be impartial in anything, which raises concerns when dealing with criminal matters. Lastly, should a member of the public walk through the high street wearing a N*zi Flag patch, they would likely be arrested and charged with causing alarm and distress or worse, be charged with a hate crime. Is this action not the same as the police officers wearing a thin blue line? Are they not to wearing a patch of an organisation/political group whom they wish to support? Of course not…. So why can the police behave in the us very same way and not be punished…. Answer, the police protect their own as the badge suggests…..
I thought the thin blue line badge was for officers who died in the line of duty... Which tbh annoyed me considering how many die in police custody... But I do think its a gang badge and some police forces response makes me think they know this but don't want you to dig to much so they fobbed you off... Very interesting video Ace I really enjoyed it 😊
The poppy is another interesting thing. You have the Royal British Legion red poppy. There is the Peace Pledge Union white poppy. And a few other colours. I remain neutral, but do question if they are only lower to wear one particular poppy, and if so that would show bias.
Sir Mark Rowley 'supposedly' outlawed the wearing of thin blue line' badge. Nothing for certain though. Even if he has done then I doubt whether all Chief Constables would comply. A very worthy issue here Ms Ace and thank you very much for raising this matter. I would not be at all surprised if nothing results from your questions. I fail to expect any sort of resolution to be reached. Very interesting indeed if you should learn anything further upon this subject. Thank you again and good luck!!
I have no idea what the deal is with the thin blue line on Dutch police uniforms. I don't think they have permission to wear it on the uniform. At least I haven't seen it yet The reason that the Royal Military Police and the police do not wear a Dutch flag on their uniforms is to radiate independence.
All police are different in the way they interact with the public. So the difference response from the FOI doesn't surprise me. Unhelpful twats everywhere, good and bad everywhere. Loving your work Ace 😜 stay safe out there ✌️
Thanks Ace, for all your work. I'm not too worried about the thin blue line patch, as long as I can still wear my union flag underpants. Cheers from Bali.
Their uniform and, more importantly, their attitude tells me all I need to know about the "gang" that is the police, Police need to remember they have discretion for a reason, If you meet someone who has made no mistakes, you have just met someone who has made nothing. And police bully and coarce more than educate, you can see this during some (but not all audits) AND THATS WHEN THEY KNOW THEY ARE BEING FILMED, theoreticaly their best behaviour.
@@John-lp5xh 😂 ask SVR about his conviction and jail time for fraud when he used to be a conveyancing lawyer. He's a thief and a fraudster. Ironic he targets law abiding citizens like myself 😉 Anyways, welcome to my channel! 😊
Anything other than what if issued by the police force shouldn't be worn it shows disregard for public opinion and also looks very unprofessional , I would also like to add that all Tattoos should be covered up while on duty due to them giving the wrong impression of the persons professionalism . Pony tails by mails should also be banned .
Regardless of the reasons why they say its a charity badge I personally think it defaced the Union flag. Which through the history of our country people fought and died for. Why not use the proper colours of our flag with a black line rather than all black . The important issue though is the Police behaviour in our communities. Interesting vid Ace.
Look into maritime law , I guarantee they’ll not be able to wear the Union Flag without doing some sort of Oath or declaration before it and I dont mean their attestation of office.
The badge i think should be changed from looking like a Union Jack , to a symbol representing the job there are in like the coat of arms from the county the police are working for
The issue is its a union jack. Sonits diminishing our flag. If it were just literally a blue line or a generic patch i dont think anyone would be bothered...maybe im wrong. Its different in the US in what it represents (debatably)
I am against them wearing the thin blue line badge. I understand it is to do with the charity, but why not wear it underneath their uniform. It should always be the Union Jack, so sad they have to deface it. Thank you for finding out, I am a new subscriber and my first female Auditor. Looking forward to following your channel.
Provided it is used to promote a charity and nothing else, I can't see it as a problem. We can all have mental health issues at some time in our lives ( me included ) and it's not a nice thing to go through!!
Why can't they use the blue police lamp to symbolise their charity? I'm sure each branch of the emergency services have a lamp or other symbol they could use for their charity. Out of respect the Union flag should stay red, white and blue.
I would get it if the badge was monochrome, as a “tactical” badge, much like the olive green and black version worn on armed forces camouflage gear, but any line that has been added does deface the flag somewhat. I also fail to see how single £5 purchases can sustain the claimed aims of the charity, bearing in mind that there will be a manufacturing and shipping cost from the supplier. If they can be bought cheaper on eBay, how would that benefit the charity they are seeking to support?
I think you should copy the positive responses into a reply to the fob offs and ask them to reconsider. You could also add in the question, if it's not designated uniform, are their warrant cards valid?
Warrant Cards are part of a Police Officers "appointments" and as such have to be carried whenever they're on duty. It's sometimes referred to as a "breif" short for "brief warrant" as the full Warrant is a lengthy document which would be impossible to carry around.
Members of public killed in police custody or shortly afterwards each year, between 220 and 300. Police Constables killed in the line of duty each year is between 1 and 3. I think the police need to remember that they cost more than any one of the 3 armed services., indeed they cost about half of all 3 combined, that is imbalanced and they do not prioritise the crimes the public ask them to, almost never attending domestic burglaries, abusing stop and account as well as Section 1 of PACE and Section 43 of the Terrorism act and section 50 of Public Order. All three parts of these legislations should be amended or scrubbed, ask your MP to lobby for that to happen if you are in the UK.
obviously the rank and file has no problems with there force members wearing it,even the upper brass. Ive seen sgts and inspectors wearing them. It offends members of the public and if a member of public let u know (members of the force) u should remove it. i personally believe it should not b worn, especially since members of public c it as a gang badge.
Although i agree with 90% of the comments i have to just say fir me personally i do agree that they should get support via trained colleagues for the state of there mental health, they do an extremely demanding job and are outnumbered greatly when it comes to issues like rioting , these people leading the riots are just thugs with one intension only using bricks concrete baseball bats or anything else they can lay there hands on, even when making arrests of repeat offenders they get outnumbered by many neighbours . Its the same for our other emergency services, i know one thing for sure that as soon as we need desperate help which one of us would refuse to call them, and if i hear you saying not me as your reading this ghen there must be something wrong with your thinking, the police force as corrupt as some of them maybe is the only designated group that are put in place to try to protect us and the streets we live in, i have seen the fear in there faces when under a brutal attack and yet they stand there as this THIN BLUE LINE its all we have guys, so i dont have an issue with them wearing a symbol of the flag as it shows support for this country all they do is represent there own service by a colour, we are making a mountain out of a molehill, there are far more important issues to worry about, this is just my own point of view, its not intented to upset anyone or cause arguments this world without me making more, well done to Cheshire police for a brief but clearer understanding of why our officers choose to were this badge, and thanks Eileen ( i love that name😂) for your huhe efforts to get some understanding on this matter,
ridiculous argument. Why is it that they are questioned for wearing a badge in support of colleagues yet fully accepted for them to wear a poppy. Ive never seen anyone (auditors) have a go for officers wearing a poppy.
I'm going to have to catch up later if this is still on. I don't have a problem with a silhouette of the union flag and the line representing the service, I don't see it as a thin blue line between crime and not crime, as the others don't mean a thin red line etc, I'm more concerned about their behaviour and lack of police.
I think it should be a personal choice if you wish to wear this badge at the end of the day it’s supporting mental health within the police force and I know a lot of people don’t like the police and you are entitled to your opinion but there are many other services and charities that use the union Jack in this way, but I don’t hear you complaining about them. At the end of the day They’re just human beings supporting colleagues suffering with mental health the people in the comments who are slagging the police off are the first ones to go running to the police. Not a gang badge look up the correct meaning first before you start chatting crap.
You alright? Came on here to check on you...with it being the height of summer, I'm guessing there are plenty of bush needs trimmed around these commercial properties. Also, the origins of the term "the thin blue line" is tied to the purported "duty" of all cops to stick by their compatriots - even when it's known that laws are being broken and citizens are being abused. The original meaning was especially popularized in the press around the time of NYPD Det. Frank Serpico, who was shot in the face in February 1971, while on duty and whose cries for help were summarily ignored by his fellow policemen, who were teaching him a lesson on exposing police corruption in the press over the preceding years. More recently, there was a huge expose into corruption in the LAPD, especially its Rampart Division (late 1990s and 2000s), Australian legistrature creating the "Royal Commission into Police Corruption" in 1994, and the UK's "Operation Tiberius" in 2002. While the investigations are infrequent, we can guarantee that the concept of a "Blue Line of Silence" and a "Thin Blue Line" absolutely still exist to this day. Every time you see an individual officer publicly investigated for long-standing criminal activities, you KNOW there were other, "good cops", who stood by and did nothing. Once upon a time, the U.S. Code had a section governing proper use and display of the US Flag. That law has since been revoked, but maybe the U.K. has something similar about flag defacement while on official duties?
Good. There's nothing wrong with being woke. The problem is with the bigots who are trying to trash the word because they're scared of being seen as racist and/or homophonic and/or sexist etc which they invariably are. The bigots tried to do the same with political correctness.
The thin blue line patch is a patch to recognise all fallen officers who have died in the line of duty. I’d love someone to explain to me what makes it a gang badge. All police officers wear the same badge, their force crest, does this get the same response? After all it shows the are all members of the same constabulary so is that also a gang badge? I don’t get the mentality of people.
@markbrennan9821. I can't explain why the term "gang badge" came about, sir, but it is NOT only in recognition of "fallen officers", but also for police officers dealing with mental health issues.
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Also the Met Police commissioner banned the thin blue line badge.
"Met Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley has defended his decision to ban officers from wearing the thin blue line badge."
If it is a ban, why are officers still choosing to wear the badge?
If I was banned from driving, would I be able to drive still??
@@leavemyrightsalone in a normal company situation, if I disobeyed my boss I would expect to be sacked.
The blue line is abused by some constables and can be considered as defacing the flag and a gang badge to support constables in their wrong doing, protecting their own. The comparison comes straight from the USA where it is considered by the US citizens as a blatant gang badge. The badge basically goes against the appearance of impartiality of the UK force.😎
@@sapankhurst2015 Agreed!!!
Banned, but they still wear it🤯
@@neilrichardson3986 Anarchist!!!
Simple answer is it’s not stores issue therefore it’s not permissible to be worn!
Neither is a poppy which seems to be acceptable double standards
This is a gang badge and it's disgusting some officer's where it.
The fact they deface the Union Flag its disrespectful to every serving and fallen Armed services personnel.
Totally disgusting.
Yp. Defacing our flag is the worsed bit.
You think armed services died for a union Jack?
Lol...
Flag shaggers are an embarrassment
@@nomorewars1366 love the trans and gay pride union flags..!!
One of the memories from my generation is of a line of British marine's or paras carrying full kit stretching off to the mountains in the distance as they prepared to yomp 56 miles to Port Stanley in order to take it back by force from the Argentines. The rear marine/para was flying a union jack flag above his backpack. Many many people lost their lives in that conflict in order that the union jack could be hoisted over Port Stanley. The people who wear that thin blue line badge are despicable, ignorant and obviously from a different generation. I personally would not converse with anyone wearing the thin blue line except to tell them what I think of them and then walk away.
They clearly weren't comfortable answering the question because they know its a gang, them against us.
How about a badge for those people who have been killed by cops , or died in custody.
GMP simply can't find anyone sufficiently senior prepared to take responsibility. That's quite shocking really.
I’ve questioned many “what’s that badge” the response I’ve had from 37 constables is “ I’m not sure, don’t really know , etc!” Not one yet has told me the correct answer! And the answers I normally get is “ takes too many hours” really!
The simple answer to this is refuse to engage with any constable that has a thin blue line badge on. Full stop period. In the street. Or in an interview under caution.
If you are interviewed under caution and the constable is wearing a thin blue line badge. State for and on the record that you will not be answering any questions from an officer you feel is part of a gang within the police. You feel that they are not going to be impartial or fair. And keep stating that.
The Thin Blue LIne means that police officers will protect each other no matter what they have done, so you can see the problem here.
no it doesnt the thin blue line in the patch represents the fallen officers who have died in the line of duty, look it up :)
@240hz-0- that is what it's meant to be, but it's very clear that those who wear it are 9/10 the worst of the bunch and do wear it to let the other corrupt constables know they have their back
@@240hz-0-it’s all about the gang they are disrespecting our British forces, who have died, been disfigured and mental damaged by fighting in wars for them to be able to ware our uniform, they fought for our flag the real British flags for what cops who disrespect, hurt and take our rights away from their own people. We the people don’t like it, what about the people who have died or murder in there care, just saying the truth were is their badge 🤷
@@240hz-0- Sadly, YOU are mistaken. The Thin Blue Line is a symbol used by law enforcement, originating in the United Kingdom but now prevalent in the United States, Canada, Australia, Belgium, Switzerland and Poland to commemorate fallen and to show support for the living law enforcement officers and to symbolize the relationship of law enforcement in the community as the protectors of the community from criminals and victimization. i.e. it is NOT just about representing "the fallen officers who have died in the line of duty." It's YOU, therefore, that needs to look it up!
@@tirokopita that's the 1 team freemasons ethos
the thin blue line badge to wear. Black and blue are the usual colours after being in the presence of the police..
Usually say its for falling officers and auditors always ask about the people who die in custody. They hate that question
Interesting investigation, Ace! I feel a lot of police standards have slipped - you see a lot of scruffy, gum-chewing, hands-in-pockets, shifty thugs in auditing videos, and I remember being held to a higher standard when I was 11 at school. I think it's a bit distateful to modify the Union Flag, but I'm not that worried - some people seem to confuse loving a flag with being patriotic. Police are free to support whatever charities and causes they want - put stickers in their cars or lockers or on their own clothes, no problem. But the whole point of the uniform is to make them identifiable as a trusted crown servant to the public. The message that this thin blue line badge sends to me is that they will always prioritise looking after each other over doing what's right - so "gang badge" maybe isn't a bad name for it.
Good report ...
Yardley ski is the auditor to watch for his brilliant audits on the thin blue line badges 😅
I enjoy watching his videos 😊
Defaced police service, defaced flag! A match?
It should be called THE THIN BLUE SLIME BADGE.
An apt description.
Oh they turned up at my bro house after we were filming the police cars council house and mp building in atherstone. We were there for ages they could have came out. So to me that was intimidation tactics. If that’s not gang behaviour 🤔🙄😡
The obfuscation regarding a simple question is quite telling.
They avoid giving a simple Yes/No answer. What are they hiding ?
Well done Ace... I wish more people had your courage....
It shows Rowley has lost control of his minions.
Rowley never had control in the first place, taking over from other lightweights like Carresida Mydick
So Staffordshire police don't know what a "statutory" time deadline is?
At last, somebody explains what the badge is ? It has been commented on a lot regarding auditors but never explained as to what it represents. Another extremely informative video, Thank you .
5:50 No information held means there is no policy or memo or guidance or rule that specifically bans the badge or allows it. Therefore the only thing that applies is the law. So therefore the TBL badge is not allowed.
Our flags not called the Union Jack its called "the Union flag" its only called the Union Jack when its on a Ship
There's a comment reply which contradicts that opinion, apparently it changed.
@@AceAudits there's no contribution its facts sorry love your work
GMP seem incapable of investigating crimes. Do you really expect them to be able to conduct an internal investigation?
Thicko Blue Line
Loved the Miss E. Dover
Guessing the 'E' is for Eileen
@@andrewgarner2224 yes 😂
@@AceAudits I think I know your brother Ben.
Thin blue line is a slap in the face to the flag!
Cheers from outback Oz 🦘🦘 Ace.
I am not a fan of any flag that has the colours changed.
Personally, I see this as a mark of disrespect to all emergency and military personnel who have served in any capacity.
To serve your country is to sacrifice you everyday freedoms, to expose you to mentally damaging and distressing situations, and lastly to potentially sacrifice you life and limb for country.
These sacrifices are significant and should be honoured and respected always.
Secondly, the ‘thin blue line’ on a bleached flag has direct links to far right movements and the black slave trade/American Civil War.
Due to these direct references/links, it makes the patch a political one, which goes against the code of conduct of a police officer as they must be always seen as politically impartial and can cause serious offence to people.
Thirdly, the symbology of the patch demonstrates an attitude of separation from the police to the public - creating a ‘us vs them’ perception which suggests that they cannot be impartial in anything, which raises concerns when dealing with criminal matters.
Lastly, should a member of the public walk through the high street wearing a N*zi Flag patch, they would likely be arrested and charged with causing alarm and distress or worse, be charged with a hate crime.
Is this action not the same as the police officers wearing a thin blue line? Are they not to wearing a patch of an organisation/political group whom they wish to support? Of course not….
So why can the police behave in the us very same way and not be punished….
Answer, the police protect their own as the badge suggests…..
I personally don’t think it is appropriate to wear any kind of patch regardless when they are on duty.
Shouldent that be the THICK BLUE LINE BADGE.
Nice work Ace..
Outstanding work 👏
It's a very handy I.D marker that the wearer isn't impartial looks after his own and will lie and deceive to do so.
Im still undecided-great content again!
My opinion on this is that the average person doesn't care because it doesn't affect them
All opinions are good to hear! Loving the variety in the comments!
@@AceAudits for sure lol! I'd like to see you try some hot sauce or something hahah
I think they should wear a streaky bacon patch 🤗🥳🥰
Bureaucracy gone mad!
I thought the thin blue line badge was for officers who died in the line of duty... Which tbh annoyed me considering how many die in police custody...
But I do think its a gang badge and some police forces response makes me think they know this but don't want you to dig to much so they fobbed you off...
Very interesting video Ace I really enjoyed it 😊
Not got a problem with it at all !!!
Oh by the way Ace, great to see ya back!
Well there clearly failing in there mission!
as far as i know they are not supposed to wear them on duty or face write ups for uniform errors from higher ups if they do.
I can picture them using this as an excuse to get rid of the poppy.
The poppy is another interesting thing. You have the Royal British Legion red poppy. There is the Peace Pledge Union white poppy. And a few other colours. I remain neutral, but do question if they are only lower to wear one particular poppy, and if so that would show bias.
Sir Mark Rowley 'supposedly' outlawed the wearing of thin blue line' badge. Nothing for certain though. Even if he has done then I doubt whether all Chief Constables would comply.
A very worthy issue here Ms Ace and thank you very much for raising this matter. I would not be at all surprised if nothing results from your questions. I fail to expect any sort of resolution to be reached. Very interesting indeed if you should learn anything further upon this subject. Thank you again and good luck!!
Another good one by ace...look out for the new kid on the block Sam kibble young and fearless 😅
I think the tattoos are probably a more interesting topic than a badge.😊
Eileen Dover and Scott Chegg are both lovely people.
Lots of truck drivers are killed at work but they dont wear thin blue truck badges.
I have no idea what the deal is with the thin blue line on Dutch police uniforms.
I don't think they have permission to wear it on the uniform.
At least I haven't seen it yet
The reason that the Royal Military Police and the police do not wear a Dutch flag on their uniforms is to radiate independence.
Personally I don't agree with any line badge , if any it should be the union only in the correct colours .
I feel sorry for the people that thought Eileen Dover was your real name. Should we tell them that BP's name isn't actually Bill Payer either?
😂
No, they’re not. They’ve been told by the chief of the met police, to remove it as it offends the public
All police are different in the way they interact with the public. So the difference response from the FOI doesn't surprise me. Unhelpful twats everywhere, good and bad everywhere. Loving your work Ace 😜 stay safe out there ✌️
Nice Video, very informative
So much for transparency.
ITS A UNION FLAG NOT UNION JACK! A Union Jack is flown by the Royal Navy on the jack staff….
THEY MIGHT BE ROWAN ATKINSON FANS HE HAD A SERIES CALLED TTBL{DOUBT IT THO}
Thanks Ace, for all your work. I'm not too worried about the thin blue line patch, as long as I can still wear my union flag underpants. Cheers from Bali.
Their uniform and, more importantly, their attitude tells me all I need to know about the "gang" that is the police, Police need to remember they have discretion for a reason, If you meet someone who has made no mistakes, you have just met someone who has made nothing. And police bully and coarce more than educate, you can see this during some (but not all audits) AND THATS WHEN THEY KNOW THEY ARE BEING FILMED, theoreticaly their best behaviour.
I'm here from street video reviewer, he gave you a thorough psych evaluation, wanted to see what it was all about
@@John-lp5xh 😂 ask SVR about his conviction and jail time for fraud when he used to be a conveyancing lawyer. He's a thief and a fraudster. Ironic he targets law abiding citizens like myself 😉
Anyways, welcome to my channel! 😊
@@AceAudits oh!! 😯 Well there you go. Hi ace I watched your chep one first, very good
@@John-lp5xh ❤️
Anything other than what if issued by the police force shouldn't be worn it shows disregard for public opinion and also looks very unprofessional , I would also like to add that all Tattoos should be covered up while on duty due to them giving the wrong impression of the persons professionalism . Pony tails by mails should also be banned .
Regardless of the reasons why they say its a charity badge I personally think it defaced the Union flag. Which through the history of our country people fought and died for. Why not use the proper colours of our flag with a black line rather than all black . The important issue though is the Police behaviour in our communities. Interesting vid Ace.
Look into maritime law , I guarantee they’ll not be able to wear the Union Flag without doing some sort of Oath or declaration before it and I dont mean their attestation of office.
The badge i think should be changed from looking like a Union Jack , to a symbol representing the job there are in like the coat of arms from the county the police are working for
The issue is its a union jack. Sonits diminishing our flag. If it were just literally a blue line or a generic patch i dont think anyone would be bothered...maybe im wrong. Its different in the US in what it represents (debatably)
Did you ask the NPCC if there is a policy/guidance on this issue?
Not yet
Why don't they wear a patch in memory of Sarah Everard?
I am against them wearing the thin blue line badge.
I understand it is to do with the charity, but why not wear it underneath their uniform.
It should always be the Union Jack, so sad they have to deface it.
Thank you for finding out,
I am a new subscriber and my first female Auditor.
Looking forward to following your channel.
Provided it is used to promote a charity and nothing else, I can't see it as a problem. We can all have mental health issues at some time in our lives ( me included ) and it's not a nice thing to go through!!
♥️
I thought cheif constable said NO
Why can't they use the blue police lamp to symbolise their charity? I'm sure each branch of the emergency services have a lamp or other symbol they could use for their charity. Out of respect the Union flag should stay red, white and blue.
Maybe should be asking Andy Burnham
I would get it if the badge was monochrome, as a “tactical” badge, much like the olive green and black version worn on armed forces camouflage gear, but any line that has been added does deface the flag somewhat. I also fail to see how single £5 purchases can sustain the claimed aims of the charity, bearing in mind that there will be a manufacturing and shipping cost from the supplier. If they can be bought cheaper on eBay, how would that benefit the charity they are seeking to support?
I think you should copy the positive responses into a reply to the fob offs and ask them to reconsider. You could also add in the question, if it's not designated uniform, are their warrant cards valid?
Warrant Cards are part of a Police Officers "appointments" and as such have to be carried whenever they're on duty. It's sometimes referred to as a "breif" short for "brief warrant" as the full Warrant is a lengthy document which would be impossible to carry around.
The people running away are the ones not paid to do a job they know what they sign up for
Members of public killed in police custody or shortly afterwards each year, between 220 and 300.
Police Constables killed in the line of duty each year is between 1 and 3.
I think the police need to remember that they cost more than any one of the 3 armed services., indeed they cost about half of all 3 combined, that is imbalanced and they do not prioritise the crimes the public ask them to, almost never attending domestic burglaries, abusing stop and account as well as Section 1 of PACE and Section 43 of the Terrorism act and section 50 of Public Order. All three parts of these legislations should be amended or scrubbed, ask your MP to lobby for that to happen if you are in the UK.
obviously the rank and file has no problems with there force members wearing it,even the upper brass. Ive seen sgts and inspectors wearing them. It offends members of the public and if a member of public let u know (members of the force) u should remove it. i personally believe it should not b worn, especially since members of public c it as a gang badge.
Ace where are you? Where’s the new vids!
Next week 😊
@@AceAudits You've been missed!
Sir mark Rowley said no, but some of his officers still wear them.
Although i agree with 90% of the comments i have to just say fir me personally i do agree that they should get support via trained colleagues for the state of there mental health, they do an extremely demanding job and are outnumbered greatly when it comes to issues like rioting , these people leading the riots are just thugs with one intension only using bricks concrete baseball bats or anything else they can lay there hands on, even when making arrests of repeat offenders they get outnumbered by many neighbours . Its the same for our other emergency services, i know one thing for sure that as soon as we need desperate help which one of us would refuse to call them, and if i hear you saying not me as your reading this ghen there must be something wrong with your thinking, the police force as corrupt as some of them maybe is the only designated group that are put in place to try to protect us and the streets we live in, i have seen the fear in there faces when under a brutal attack and yet they stand there as this THIN BLUE LINE its all we have guys, so i dont have an issue with them wearing a symbol of the flag as it shows support for this country all they do is represent there own service by a colour, we are making a mountain out of a molehill, there are far more important issues to worry about, this is just my own point of view, its not intented to upset anyone or cause arguments this world without me making more, well done to Cheshire police for a brief but clearer understanding of why our officers choose to were this badge, and thanks Eileen ( i love that name😂) for your huhe efforts to get some understanding on this matter,
Gang badge as far as public veiw it... simple answer....
ridiculous argument. Why is it that they are questioned for wearing a badge in support of colleagues yet fully accepted for them to wear a poppy. Ive never seen anyone (auditors) have a go for officers wearing a poppy.
Because the poppy doesn’t offend them…
Wearing a swastika would cause offence and the person would be charged. How’s this any different?
I'm going to have to catch up later if this is still on. I don't have a problem with a silhouette of the union flag and the line representing the service, I don't see it as a thin blue line between crime and not crime, as the others don't mean a thin red line etc, I'm more concerned about their behaviour and lack of police.
Can you contact the Chief Constable of GMP for a response
May be a good option to try
My comment got removed because it spoke the truth about the badge of -----
@@CHILLDOUTMAN ? That's odd. What was it?
Apparently my comment breached community guidelines. Looks like a cop didn't like it
Aah OK, it could also be RUclips's system that scans for things. Thankfully it doesn't happen too often.
0:14 Ughhhhh! Not your voice Ace!🤣👍
Well done on getting the facts
Go get them 👍🏻
I think it should be a personal choice if you wish to wear this badge at the end of the day it’s supporting mental health within the police force and I know a lot of people don’t like the police and you are entitled to your opinion but there are many other services and charities that use the union Jack in this way, but I don’t hear you complaining about them.
At the end of the day They’re just human beings supporting colleagues suffering with mental health the people in the comments who are slagging the police off are the first ones to go running to the police.
Not a gang badge look up the correct meaning first before you start chatting crap.
TELL THEM TO FOXTROT OSCAR
It’s not part of their uniform n Thus should not be allowed. Why not a Micky Mouse Club Badge? Same Logic.
OH no my dream girl is just a made up person ,there never was an Eileen Dover I'm gutted LOL🤣. Keep it up Ms Mystery I love it
Pol say, "it's for dead pol while on duty" not mental health.
Missing your drone videos.
Hopefully they will resume soon .Take care
If they are so proud of the gang badge why not wear it on their civilian clothes or car badges on their cars
My guess is for safety reasons
You alright? Came on here to check on you...with it being the height of summer, I'm guessing there are plenty of bush needs trimmed around these commercial properties.
Also, the origins of the term "the thin blue line" is tied to the purported "duty" of all cops to stick by their compatriots - even when it's known that laws are being broken and citizens are being abused.
The original meaning was especially popularized in the press around the time of NYPD Det. Frank Serpico, who was shot in the face in February 1971, while on duty and whose cries for help were summarily ignored by his fellow policemen, who were teaching him a lesson on exposing police corruption in the press over the preceding years.
More recently, there was a huge expose into corruption in the LAPD, especially its Rampart Division (late 1990s and 2000s), Australian legistrature creating the "Royal Commission into Police Corruption" in 1994, and the UK's "Operation Tiberius" in 2002.
While the investigations are infrequent, we can guarantee that the concept of a "Blue Line of Silence" and a "Thin Blue Line" absolutely still exist to this day.
Every time you see an individual officer publicly investigated for long-standing criminal activities, you KNOW there were other, "good cops", who stood by and did nothing.
Once upon a time, the U.S. Code had a section governing proper use and display of the US Flag. That law has since been revoked, but maybe the U.K. has something similar about flag defacement while on official duties?
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Everywhere is woke. You can't stop it.
Good. There's nothing wrong with being woke. The problem is with the bigots who are trying to trash the word because they're scared of being seen as racist and/or homophonic and/or sexist etc which they invariably are. The bigots tried to do the same with political correctness.
blue line remmber the fllen police officer's who died in the line of duity that is my take on the blue line ace ;0) victoria police we have that
The thin blue line patch is a patch to recognise all fallen officers who have died in the line of duty. I’d love someone to explain to me what makes it a gang badge. All police officers wear the same badge, their force crest, does this get the same response? After all it shows the are all members of the same constabulary so is that also a gang badge? I don’t get the mentality of people.
@markbrennan9821. I can't explain why the term "gang badge" came about, sir, but it is NOT only in recognition of "fallen officers", but also for police officers dealing with mental health issues.