As a bugs main if you just run into his shit he is insane plus if you don’t know how to di combos you just die, Cromulons amplifies that times a thousand lmao
hot take perhaps but the pace isnt that bad. it could be tuned up a bit but it feels deliberate, nuanced, and provides a nice tension while watching competitive
Bro for sure. When you actually play the game it feels fine. It's definitely slower than beta but lets be real, beta was obscenely fast, you literally just fly across the screen. This might be a little slow but it's definitely in better taste than beta. People just love to complain. Multiversus community is so toxic for no reason lmao
@@doug2555while I do agree it feels a bit faster in your hands - the issue comes more on the spectator side. the game definitely has a much slower viewing experience than any traditional or platform fighter.
@@daies07 Right, I don't mind from the spectator side. My issue is the people on Twitch and twitter flaming the game because of the speed. You don't flame games you haven't played.
Im really enjoying the game so far, hope it isnt too grindy though. Hohestly these day everything related to gaming is just complaining and hating and hoping for the death of a game so they can complain about a new one.
i just wish it wasn't so zoomed in. i don't think they thought about how making their characters bigger would affect the camera, once they tweak that and the ringout zones i think it'll be in a good place
Fr. I want to play multiverses again but the new update / release is so bloody slow and they took away all the characters I earned in Beta which was more than half of the roster lol. Pain
Fantastic stuff thank you for hosting and great casting by you and PJ. Really enjoying the gameplay of the MvS launch in both 1s and 2s. I hope they get the old controller settings back in to get rid of the ridiculously long input buffer. They said they were putting those options back in so we'll see. PFG has been posting a bunch of stuff on twitter on improvements based on feedback they are planning but we'll see if they come through. I just hope they don't remake the beta again, it was fun but exhausting and died in like a month.
I understand the initial criticism of speed, but the bad thing is that it causes many people to pretend that they even cared about it in the first place. Sometimes I feel that they do it more to join a herd than because it really bothers them. Just because other games are so fast doesn't mean Multiversus has to be the same, and I don't think it's bad that it has its own rhythm, like, sometimes you want to play a game without having to overdose on caffeine.
game speed is not some niche complaint lmao its not unbelievable that its a widespread grievance. no one is saying multi has to be melee fast people just want an increase to base game speed thats it
like i remember the game being so fast it would glitch out and make projectiles disappear and you would randomly get nuke shot across the map. i think the game being (just a little slower) honestly helps with performance and flow of the game
@@generalflood1729 not really A 20 frame move given a 20% speed boost is now a 16 frame move... Shit, maybe 20 is not enough This looks like how playing sephiroth full stoned feels like
Just gonna be honest here: even watching this pro gameplay, there are points where the slowdown is CLEARLY noticeable. The big issue people don't seem to address properly is, even if it still feels okay to play, if it isn't fun to watch it won't succeed. Multiversus WAS fun to watch, even if 2v2 was manic. The devs slowed down the ENTIRE game just so you can see the animations clearly in a game where you are going to animation cancel a lot anyway, and they only had 2v2 in mind. There is a difference between what the company thinks is right and what players and viewers want, and sometimes the best games are those where the devs stopped doing what THEY wanted and listened to the community.
The pace is fine, there's still a lot going on in a small amount of time. Pretty sure banana guard is to mult like Ike was to ult, where people just don't know how to deal with him yet
That means basically nothing. Top comment easily could have been "12 views in 0 seconds, bro fell off". People are sheep. This game has far more glaring issues than the pacing. I don't care if they keep it this pace or revert to beta, if they dont fix the laundry list of missing features, new bugs, no ranked, game constantly crashing, the pace won't matter. Game will be shelved.
Multiversus might be different after this new release, but it looks like Mirrorman has not slowed down one bit! Because good lord, that first set was a MURDER! 😭
@@25Jake So you think Taz = tornado spam and Taz players = spam enjoyers ? I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. I don't care about the tornado, it's ok as it is, I don't want Taz to turn into a boring ass charachter. But his side attack is so bad right now and his projectile is too slow. Taz can be very fun with really cool combos but since launch the character seems weak as fuck compared to the rest of the cast.
Taz is still playable to some degree. JAKE ON THE OTHER HAND HOLY FUCK. But yeah too long of a start up and overpunished for simply committing to normals makes Taz, Jake and Garnet infuriating to play with
@@luigiwiiUU Not that bugs player specifically, the CHARACTER. He only lost because Banana Guard is ALSO broken and his opponent was cracked. Not to mention he only went Bugs one game.
Y'alls thinking the game ain't slow got some serious rose colored glasses on. Even 10% faster would be something. Also, it zooms in so much that some melee attacks are off screen lmao.
@@timnoskill no it's not weird, lots of people like slower gameplay. melee players/viewers not so much. i don't like smash 4 much because it's too slow for me. i was a melee/mvc2/umvc3 player and those games are deliciously fast.
@@BOLDBANGER so its slow for you. cause your used to insanely fast games. the game is not slow for me at all. its actually quite fast compared to what im used to.
@@yoshikagekira1719 i mean i like fast pace too, dont get me wrong- zain and cody gameplay is peak - but also like i do sometimes love a good hbox slow burn game lmao
The game is slow, sure... but is anyone going to talk about the decade-long attack buffering and the fact that you can't switch side and neutral attack anymore? They removed a good bit of quality-of-life features for no reason
Gotta love the forced 30 frame attack buffer, zoomed in camera, slow janky animations, no match stats, and a worse training mode! Thanks player first games, at least we have 4 different currencies now 🙏
My one complaint with some of these characters. You cannot be good at everything. If a character is a vertical god, why does it have fast projectiles that act has a hard deterrent for horizontal counter attack? Why the crutch?
Bugs bunny is still broken, his safe unnecessarily hits you multiple times when it isn’t supposed to, look at the first match for example he went from 0 to 70 from the safe
Kinda wish Wonder Woman wasnt broken, I just like WW, id play her if she were bottom tier, now I gotta get side-eyed for just jumping on a broken character or something.
iron giant has zero answer to most of the cast, with all of their fast/cancellable normals in the air and on the ground. And you see with this top level play, you just NEED to play the better characters to win, which feels bad. Bugs and banana guard are great, but you see the complete bs that is bug's combo game. You can see that the game's not meant for competitive play, where it's laggy, little defensive options besides dodge spam which doesn't work as expected with lag, and the almost infinites off of safe combo starters. Play it casual, have fun. That's all folks.
Projectiles are supposed to have cool downs right? WTF is Gizmo then?! 😂 MVS is fun, most of the time. I may just be bad but some of the damage, knock back and hit boxes on several moves are stupid.
Oh nah that first game was diabolical 😭😭😭
As a bugs main if you just run into his shit he is insane plus if you don’t know how to di combos you just die, Cromulons amplifies that times a thousand lmao
Mirrorman STOLE Taxik’s soul with the safe disrespect kill
i dodge every bugs players personally
@@shortesnameofalltimei cant say he needs a nerf but his kit is too op and then his safes and rockets come back its kinda dumb
It’s not even a skill diff. Taz just can’t keep up. His nerfs from beta made him incredibly mid in the official release
4:40 actual Looney Tunes shit
The entire reason I play bugs is because no one can do dumb shit like he can
Yup
Not to mention the end of Mirrorman Cosolix game 2 around 43:45 where he just kept circling around his holes
2:37 ok that Hoo Hah timing was perfect
I thought that was apart of the game lol
hot take perhaps but the pace isnt that bad. it could be tuned up a bit but it feels deliberate, nuanced, and provides a nice tension while watching competitive
Bro for sure. When you actually play the game it feels fine. It's definitely slower than beta but lets be real, beta was obscenely fast, you literally just fly across the screen. This might be a little slow but it's definitely in better taste than beta. People just love to complain. Multiversus community is so toxic for no reason lmao
@@doug2555while I do agree it feels a bit faster in your hands - the issue comes more on the spectator side.
the game definitely has a much slower viewing experience than any traditional or platform fighter.
@@daies07 Right, I don't mind from the spectator side. My issue is the people on Twitch and twitter flaming the game because of the speed. You don't flame games you haven't played.
Im really enjoying the game so far, hope it isnt too grindy though. Hohestly these day everything related to gaming is just complaining and hating and hoping for the death of a game so they can complain about a new one.
i just wish it wasn't so zoomed in. i don't think they thought about how making their characters bigger would affect the camera, once they tweak that and the ringout zones i think it'll be in a good place
This video goes crazy on 1.5x
Fr. I want to play multiverses again but the new update / release is so bloody slow and they took away all the characters I earned in Beta which was more than half of the roster lol. Pain
@@Calamity4 um sir you shouldnt have lost any chars
@@Calamity4yea i kept everything from beta, including characters
@@oboqbro never had the chars he’s either lying or talking about character rotation of the characters he thought he had 😭☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@Calamity4Are you lying or what? You don’t lose characters.
Fantastic stuff thank you for hosting and great casting by you and PJ. Really enjoying the gameplay of the MvS launch in both 1s and 2s. I hope they get the old controller settings back in to get rid of the ridiculously long input buffer. They said they were putting those options back in so we'll see. PFG has been posting a bunch of stuff on twitter on improvements based on feedback they are planning but we'll see if they come through. I just hope they don't remake the beta again, it was fun but exhausting and died in like a month.
I understand the initial criticism of speed, but the bad thing is that it causes many people to pretend that they even cared about it in the first place. Sometimes I feel that they do it more to join a herd than because it really bothers them. Just because other games are so fast doesn't mean Multiversus has to be the same, and I don't think it's bad that it has its own rhythm, like, sometimes you want to play a game without having to overdose on caffeine.
I never played the Beta, and the speed feels fine, it feels like Smash 4
game speed is not some niche complaint lmao its not unbelievable that its a widespread grievance. no one is saying multi has to be melee fast people just want an increase to base game speed thats it
like i remember the game being so fast it would glitch out and make projectiles disappear and you would randomly get nuke shot across the map. i think the game being (just a little slower) honestly helps with performance and flow of the game
The game's speed matters when paired with the 30 frame input buffer. At times it can make the game feel like moving through mud.
@@austinrobertson7666yeah, remember how you could dodge Batman’s grapple and he would fly off the stage 😂
Thanks for having me Hbox!
Good Matches.They were entertaining.🔥
Definitely not as slow with proper movement, but needs like 20-25% increase in movement speed
general increase in speed, like in every single animation this looks so damn clunky
@@darkdraconisfeels even worse. Animations have insane lag but even worse is the input delay they have. Arya is the worse case of this
20% is a massive amount of speed lol holy hell
@@generalflood1729 not really
A 20 frame move given a 20% speed boost is now a 16 frame move...
Shit, maybe 20 is not enough
This looks like how playing sephiroth full stoned feels like
I feel like the move Ment speed feels fine but maybe that is just me I even prefer it a bit
I feel like this game moves at speeds in the middle between ultimate and melee.
Fast paced with good movement.
Here come the hate comments and crying😂 "ThIS gAMeS wAy tOO SLOw" 🤡
@@25Jakeyea cuddy that's the average assessment. And it is slower whenever you care or not
It’s slower than brawl dude….
I'd say it's more in line with Sm4sh and Brawl.
@@25Jake devs also admitted it's too slow. Changes coming soon scrub
Let us see what competitive multiversus looks like
Maybe let’s not, it kind of sucks
@@yoshikagekira1719 Nah it's fun as hell. I could play Tom for hours
The “beta” had a few tournaments for it
@@owenduffy5745 Agreed
@@owenduffy5745too bad you can never see Jerry with the camera being so shit 💀
Virgin banana guard against Chad Shaggy
Halftime show was wild 😭
Mirrorman actually pulled off some looney tunes shit on that final stock of the 9-stock 💀💀💀
Banana Guard is the new shaggy straight cheese
That was a fun watch! Thanks HBox for the MVS tourney! Hopefully next tournament they'll fix the issue with spectating but I'm sure they will.
This first 5 min match was insane
Just gonna be honest here: even watching this pro gameplay, there are points where the slowdown is CLEARLY noticeable. The big issue people don't seem to address properly is, even if it still feels okay to play, if it isn't fun to watch it won't succeed. Multiversus WAS fun to watch, even if 2v2 was manic. The devs slowed down the ENTIRE game just so you can see the animations clearly in a game where you are going to animation cancel a lot anyway, and they only had 2v2 in mind. There is a difference between what the company thinks is right and what players and viewers want, and sometimes the best games are those where the devs stopped doing what THEY wanted and listened to the community.
The pace is fine, there's still a lot going on in a small amount of time. Pretty sure banana guard is to mult like Ike was to ult, where people just don't know how to deal with him yet
mirror man going ultra instinct on bugs bunny holy
Banana guard is the only character in this game that does smash bros damage. They need to nerf his damage but keep the knock back on his kit.
I won’t lie game 1 makes the game look really good. Once you know what you doing shit goes by fast kinda fire imo.
You know a game is slow when the top comments recommend you to watch the video at 1.25x or 1.5x speed.
Or the people liking that comment are you know, salty like yourself?
That means basically nothing. Top comment easily could have been "12 views in 0 seconds, bro fell off". People are sheep. This game has far more glaring issues than the pacing. I don't care if they keep it this pace or revert to beta, if they dont fix the laundry list of missing features, new bugs, no ranked, game constantly crashing, the pace won't matter. Game will be shelved.
That guy’s song was actually pretty solid. Keep it up, bro ❤
Multiversus might be different after this new release, but it looks like Mirrorman has not slowed down one bit!
Because good lord, that first set was a MURDER! 😭
HEY LOOK ITS ME THE BANANA GUARD WHO WON THE TOURNAMENT! 🍌🍌
W BANANA
That was bananas that's for sure as in this was crazy! JMafia's Banana Guard and Mirror's Bugs Bunny are the stars of the show in this video.
Always funny to me to see hb jump on new smash like games then leave them in the dust every time.
6:05 hungrybox box just hit banana guard
Seeing Banana Guard get bodies is SOOO cathartic!
nO mEtEr No MeTeR
NO METER
Played mirror the other day, dude didn’t smoke me and that’s all I cared about lol I wanted the rematch, but I’m sure I woulda lost again💀
Big W to Hungrybox for letting bro play his song on stream
Mirrorman is making my bugs look like shit
How to enter a multiversus tournament?
Taz got nerfed into the ground. I can't play him anymore 😢
Yeah, he seems really bad right now.
U mean u can't spam his tornado anymore?😂 daaaaarn
@@25Jake So you think Taz = tornado spam and Taz players = spam enjoyers ? I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. I don't care about the tornado, it's ok as it is, I don't want Taz to turn into a boring ass charachter. But his side attack is so bad right now and his projectile is too slow. Taz can be very fun with really cool combos but since launch the character seems weak as fuck compared to the rest of the cast.
TAZ Has been my favorite looney tune since forever so I don't need a spin, but at least a reliable combo or 2😩
Taz is still playable to some degree. JAKE ON THE OTHER HAND HOLY FUCK. But yeah too long of a start up and overpunished for simply committing to normals makes Taz, Jake and Garnet infuriating to play with
How can I get into these tournaments?
You know this game looks inmensely slower when there aren't four players shooting bombs and magic across.
This ruleset really doesn't favor the game.
random but I just found out mark hamill is 72 yrs old and still voiced Joker for this
bro it’s like day 3 😭
that's what i'm thinking but i'm still gonna watch and steal tech👀
Bugs is so unapologetically broken 😭
So true
he didnt even win this
@@luigiwiiUU Not that bugs player specifically, the CHARACTER. He only lost because Banana Guard is ALSO broken and his opponent was cracked. Not to mention he only went Bugs one game.
@@insan3giraff39jmafia is a virgin
The zoom annoy when watching.... gaming not much. But bro watching... claustrophobic
4:41 this is not a game
This is a lore accurate bugs fuckery
Cody plays sick AF in this game too WTF lol
Damn is Hbox serving out the Caster Curse???
so glad the streamer is commentating so we know how many subscribers he is getting.
I actually ran in to mirrorman while I was just casually playing and I beat him sure it was a 2v2 on Dexter’s laboratory but that’s not important
No Finn or Wonder Woman is crazzzzy.
They ass
yeah what wheres me????
HB in that tiger king drip
Woo over an hour video
1:10:07 ngl mirrorman complaining about the stage but you steady abusing that up smash but taz 🤣🤣
1.25 makes it like melee
Oh that just tap square button character is op
When will hungrybox host guilty gear coinbox?
You know the game is slow when 1.25x speed looks better
pretty sure multiversus is bold enough to change the movement three times
I feel like, Joker could be exploided even more, as he is already.
I long for the day I can watch a Hbox video without constant sub-farming and yelling and where it's actually focused on the content itself
taz supposed to be able to eat projectiles. thats dumb he cant eat it
No lie I watched on on 1.25 and it’s better
Mirrorman’s bugs bunny goes crazyyy
WHATS THAT SUB GIFTED SONG YOU GOT ON ??
how do you join these?
Y'alls thinking the game ain't slow got some serious rose colored glasses on. Even 10% faster would be something. Also, it zooms in so much that some melee attacks are off screen lmao.
am i weird for enjoying slow gameplay? like i generally enjoy watching people like dabuz in ult
@@timnoskill no it's not weird, lots of people like slower gameplay. melee players/viewers not so much. i don't like smash 4 much because it's too slow for me. i was a melee/mvc2/umvc3 player and those games are deliciously fast.
@@BOLDBANGER so its slow for you. cause your used to insanely fast games. the game is not slow for me at all. its actually quite fast compared to what im used to.
@@timnoskill its not weird, just a bad opinion and bad taste. But that’s okay, you probably have other traits about you that are good?
@@yoshikagekira1719 i mean i like fast pace too, dont get me wrong- zain and cody gameplay is peak - but also like i do sometimes love a good hbox slow burn game lmao
Shaggy Schwab might not be the best (yet) but he is the most cracked
This game is sooo back let’s fing goooooooo
So the Joker card breaks Bugs missile, but batarang does nothing? lol
ngl 1.5x does hit diff, thanks for the tip
The game is slow, sure... but is anyone going to talk about the decade-long attack buffering and the fact that you can't switch side and neutral attack anymore? They removed a good bit of quality-of-life features for no reason
I noticed how anytime I attack it comes out a second later. Even if I don’t want it too it still comes out
@@TheSackersLoungeyou can cancel it with a dodge
Gotta love the forced 30 frame attack buffer, zoomed in camera, slow janky animations, no match stats, and a worse training mode! Thanks player first games, at least we have 4 different currencies now 🙏
@@ThatsTypical just say you hate people who like the game, it'll go quicker
@@madnard8744 What a weird hasty generalization, where did that even come from?
i dont rly understand why people think the game is slow. brawlhallas competitive scene is pretty interesting and it is like 5x slower
My one complaint with some of these characters. You cannot be good at everything. If a character is a vertical god, why does it have fast projectiles that act has a hard deterrent for horizontal counter attack? Why the crutch?
Cody did good but he’s just too inexperienced with Shaggy
Bugs bunny is still broken, his safe unnecessarily hits you multiple times when it isn’t supposed to, look at the first match for example he went from 0 to 70 from the safe
Man. This game just doesn't feel like hits have any impact at all.
Id say i feel bad for Tax1k but hes a Taz main.
can we talk abt how bros song that he paid for box to playwas actually not bad at all.
13:00 i think banana guard is broken, but this BG player was trash. 80% of his moves he threw were side special
NO METER 🔥🗣️
Kinda wish Wonder Woman wasnt broken, I just like WW, id play her if she were bottom tier, now I gotta get side-eyed for just jumping on a broken character or something.
Oh great another one of these where we get 8 videos on it and then never hear about it again. Cool.
lol you realize you don’t have to watch right
I give the song a 7.8-8
Who else saw mirrorman and realized this is a battle for 2nd place😂😂
bugzvii shouldve won that game 4 idk why his combos were switching direction
0:01
38:21
1:10:45
Mirrorman bugs games
iron giant has zero answer to most of the cast, with all of their fast/cancellable normals in the air and on the ground. And you see with this top level play, you just NEED to play the better characters to win, which feels bad. Bugs and banana guard are great, but you see the complete bs that is bug's combo game.
You can see that the game's not meant for competitive play, where it's laggy, little defensive options besides dodge spam which doesn't work as expected with lag, and the almost infinites off of safe combo starters. Play it casual, have fun. That's all folks.
no way cosolix is on multiverses(he's a #1 lance main in brawlhalla)
wheres void?
pj loves yapping
1.25x is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Everyone runs away against buggs bunny damn is he really THAT good?
Tax losing his mind surely
game feels like its underwater. we need the beta speed back. this reminds me of smash going from stupid fast melee to brawl
Im actually as good as mirroring but I’m unknown I hope I get more attention
IGN: 7.8/10-No fast paced movement
Just a quick tip, cosolix is pronounced cos oh lix. But I find your pronunciation funny.
Projectiles are supposed to have cool downs right? WTF is Gizmo then?! 😂 MVS is fun, most of the time. I may just be bad but some of the damage, knock back and hit boxes on several moves are stupid.
why are there no harley players
There are just not as crazy stro g as the beta
It looks okay.
That guys song was painfully generic mumble lowfi rap about sex and cars