Would love a DOF 24. Surely couldn't be that hard for them to set up for next year. I also wondered if you could be Owner. Buy a club, set budgets, set a personal wealth. I've thought about it too much...
Awesome first video. Peruzzi looks like a great choice for your head coach, I found with Worthing and Birmingham getting the right Assistant is absolutely the most important decision as DoF. Looking forward to part 2 😊
That's an interesting concept, and I'll be keeping a close eye on it. It shouldn't be that technically difficult to make a DoF-mode in football manager, since you can already choose most of the responsibilities, so all the game would have to do would be allow you to take a DoF job formally, and then lock out some manager responsibilities if you do.
I’ve always wanted to do this. The problem that always gets to me is not being able to hire actual managers that become available. I hope they create a DOF mode where you can actually have that freedom.
I thought of you when this was posted. You deserve a lot of credit for the concept since you're the first person I saw do it. I hope Fm makes it into a real game mode where you can be an owner or director of football.
Great idea. Been playing FM since FM06 and just realized that since I am German, I kind of always played as a DoF. Historically, head coaches (what you would call manager) get only a small amount of input in transfers and probably none into recruiting, scouting etc. So playing a football management sim as a German was always playing as a coaching DoF
For your assistant to do well you need to think of them as a manager in terms of the attributes, e.g. tactical knowledge, level of discipline, motivating and determination. Adaptability is important too.
@@Clayts When you were looking at the Assistant Manager profiles, you should have looked at the Manager tab on the left rather than assistant manager tab
This is awesome. I was just thinking about this last week, and wish this was an option in the actual game, where you could sign actual managers/head coaches.
When you finally get into it, you realize how little control you really have playing more as a DoF. First time I did it I 'compromised' by still controlling tactics and lineups but using instant result to sim matches. Once you find your feet (and an assistant with really high tactical knowledge) it can be really fun to do. I mean my favorite part of FM is scouting and developing anyway. Maybe I might give this type of save another go when I'm done with my current one. Good video mate.
Little tip for ne 1 following this save and 2 not full into the workpermit trap that clayts has fallen into if you load a league that starts 2 weeks b4 England starts you can use that country as your main country so the game starts on that date meaning you can have your assistant manager start just after pre season starts. If my memory is correct Czech Republic maybe a country to use
Yeah something I’ve thought about… I actually think we’ll get enough that will will organically start to take on coaching/assistant roles as we progress. Like gerrard/lampard often become coaches anyway.
The Baseball sim game, Out of the Park Baseball actually has this mode: you can choose whether you take a role of GM(director of baseball-ish), Manager, or both. I want that system for FM too!
I would love a version where we could play as players agents, negotiate deals, having to fulfill the players wishes, convince other players to become our clients, having to convince our players to sign with a club that pays a high agents fee and all of that stuff. Could be rlly fun imo.
this should be a game mode, where you can hire/fire coaches too just like the assistants. but where you can make the club vision and set expectations... has genuine potential, maybe a little bit too much considering SI's limited game development over the years
I've flipped my Brighton save in to this about 4 weeks ago to try it for a season. Really enjoying it so far! Get a skin that allows for 'instant result' though - much easier than going on holiday each time.
As a Spurs fan I came here hoping to escape the grim reality that is this season. Not sure you've helped 🤔 but I'll be back to see how this goes. Fun take on a save, can see this catching on. 😁
I'm a Arsenal fan and I would really like to test this with arteta as my assistant.. But I guess i need editor for that or maybe maybe change some files to get the assistant in my team to actually be the "manager" so you actually can sign manager's thats looking for a New job
In some of my saves my assistant became the manager of the year.. because i leave matches to him as i go on holiday but i chose the starting 11 and the tactic
@@Clayts yeah I guess you're right, even though you could select the assistant's favorite tactic and make him choose the team. But maybe going on holiday creates more diverse tactics and team selections.
If Peruzzi doesn't work out maybe don't give up on the concept but change it slightly and start using the editor to "sign" the manager that you would like (whitin reason) for the assistant role.
Yeah I thought about this! In a couple of seasons you can usually pick up some more esteemed managers as assistants as well - the gerrards or Lampards of the world. If things go pear-shaped let’s turn it into a DOF Journeyman!
I think I do more silly than be DOF. I have given all the match day responsibilities to the assistant coach and all the negociating to the Dof. I just select who we target for player and staff hires, and who we offer contract extensions too. Been doing it for years. I tell them what training to do though.
Would have gone for the Dutch guy who was probably de Boer’s assistant at Palace. Vio must surely play for set pieces and not much else? Not sure there’s merit on having a set piece coach in charge!
You can set yourself as unable to be fired with the editor (I think) and that would then let you truly be the director of football and hire/fire as you need.
Hey @clayts - I have a quick question - I've started a Charlton DoF save - brought in a manager. I've set the tactic to his preferred formation and style of play - he's flying, we are 5 games in and top of league one. However, I still seem to have to watch each game and 'accept' substitution suggestions. How do I avoid this? I'm pretty sure i've given him as much control as I can - do you just go on holiday for the day?
Main issue i forsee is that you sign good players and promise them regular starter, but your Ass Man decides he wants to start others most of the time and they get pissed at you.
Yeah it’s definitely a fine line, I’m trying to under promise as much as I can when doing contracts and keeping the squad small to avoid too much unrest
Emerson Royal is actually a very good defender in real life, he's just not great going forward. Although from what I have heard and seen he has improved recently
@@williamcross210 True. But I also don't want to fully credit Conte for this, Emerson has worked to improve himself. Pretty sure he paid money from his own paycheck to improve. He seems a very determined player!
Yeah potentially, quite like the challenge at this point and I reckon we’ll organically get some managers that will be interested soon. Seen plenty take coaching roles before.
Just a little constructive criticism but when you were recruiting your Assistant (Manager) you had the Assistant Manager stats highlighted and not the Manager stats which you'd prefer to look at if they're doing that job.
The wisest move was removing Stellini. In real world on 23/04/23 under his management Spurs lost 6-1 to Newcastle, that was one of the most embarrassing matches as a Spurs supporter of 37+ years I had to endure.
@@Clayts That's all good then! - You're pretty good at giving credit where due from what I've seen, I've just enjoyed his series too and it's a brilliant and really different idea for a save
@@Clayts Looking forward to watching, especially doing it in a Prem environment - I really enjoyed the DOF Southampton series (skipped the Newcastle one as I'm a Mackem, sorry), so can't wait to have another series of yours to watch.
It definitely would, I’ve left the editor turned on in case this is something we might want to do but I’m tempted to wait and see, I think some managers will be available to sign as coaches or assistants eventually.
It’s my stream save - I do videos here for each season, we’ve just finished the next season, I recorded the script for it last night and I’m in the process of editing it.
@@Clayts sometimes i still got fired even with full control 🤣. But i found that it depends on expectation, team level, board, etc. Do you plan to go to full season holiday? What if there are conflicts like team dynamics, contracts, minutes played, etc?
Nah I’m not holidaying, I’m just holidaying the game days. And I’ve put all of the other responsibilities over to the assistant too so he’s dealing with it!
This is an #InAngeloWeTrust train.
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Would love a DOF 24. Surely couldn't be that hard for them to set up for next year. I also wondered if you could be Owner. Buy a club, set budgets, set a personal wealth. I've thought about it too much...
Not much to do though but fun idea though
@yvngxchrxs there's a Baseball sim called Out of the Park that does sports team ownership to crazy detail.
There’s an idea for a video.. let’s take it to the next degree, custom DB, become an owner
Totally agree, so many workarounds needed to play as the Director of Football at the moment
Football Tycoon. Creating stadiums and facilities, networks, affiliations, academies, sponsorships, even entertainment around the ground
Awesome first video. Peruzzi looks like a great choice for your head coach, I found with Worthing and Birmingham getting the right Assistant is absolutely the most important decision as DoF. Looking forward to part 2 😊
Kirk! You’re a Legend! DoF save has me dying for more episodes to come out. Amazing channel, I’m doing a sunderland moneyball save
@@jonschwarze6 awesome, good luck with Sunderland!
That's an interesting concept, and I'll be keeping a close eye on it. It shouldn't be that technically difficult to make a DoF-mode in football manager, since you can already choose most of the responsibilities, so all the game would have to do would be allow you to take a DoF job formally, and then lock out some manager responsibilities if you do.
I’ve always wanted to do this. The problem that always gets to me is not being able to hire actual managers that become available. I hope they create a DOF mode where you can actually have that freedom.
Fantastic to see one of the bigger FM youtubers trying out this type of save. Good luck Clayts! Stick at it, it's loads of fun (and really hard!)
We need another Birmingham episode quick
@@Beastmode_Jr. haha! I'm on it 😊
I thought of you when this was posted. You deserve a lot of credit for the concept since you're the first person I saw do it. I hope Fm makes it into a real game mode where you can be an owner or director of football.
I'm really enjoying the moneyball DOF save. Its something I'm getting to try myself
Was disappointed he didn't get a mention.
Great idea. Been playing FM since FM06 and just realized that since I am German, I kind of always played as a DoF. Historically, head coaches (what you would call manager) get only a small amount of input in transfers and probably none into recruiting, scouting etc. So playing a football management sim as a German was always playing as a coaching DoF
If the season performance got bad. Whom is gonna get fired?
The amount of times I wish I could play as a different job in FM makes a save like this super intriguing I really enjoyed it!
For your assistant to do well you need to think of them as a manager in terms of the attributes, e.g. tactical knowledge, level of discipline, motivating and determination. Adaptability is important too.
Yep 👍
@@Clayts When you were looking at the Assistant Manager profiles, you should have looked at the Manager tab on the left rather than assistant manager tab
@@williamcross210I was still looking at all of the relevant attributes on the coaching tab though.
This is awesome. I was just thinking about this last week, and wish this was an option in the actual game, where you could sign actual managers/head coaches.
Peruzzi he's a safe pair of hands! Great concept... especially when this goes t*ts up and turns into a journeyman!
You’ve gone for “when” there and not “if” I see…
Nice one bro! About the Trustfull part: He was assistent manager of Frank de Boer at Inter, Atlanta en Crystal Palace.
When you finally get into it, you realize how little control you really have playing more as a DoF. First time I did it I 'compromised' by still controlling tactics and lineups but using instant result to sim matches. Once you find your feet (and an assistant with really high tactical knowledge) it can be really fun to do. I mean my favorite part of FM is scouting and developing anyway. Maybe I might give this type of save another go when I'm done with my current one. Good video mate.
100%! It’s the not being able to pick even the system that feels so alien!
Bout would have been an excellent choice then?
@@williamcross210 what?
Little tip for ne 1 following this save and 2 not full into the workpermit trap that clayts has fallen into if you load a league that starts 2 weeks b4 England starts you can use that country as your main country so the game starts on that date meaning you can have your assistant manager start just after pre season starts. If my memory is correct Czech Republic maybe a country to use
Fun idea for a save.
I think using the in game editor to force ‘proper’ managers into the assistant role would be cool, as long as kept realistic.
Yeah something I’ve thought about… I actually think we’ll get enough that will will organically start to take on coaching/assistant roles as we progress. Like gerrard/lampard often become coaches anyway.
The Baseball sim game, Out of the Park Baseball actually has this mode: you can choose whether you take a role of GM(director of baseball-ish), Manager, or both. I want that system for FM too!
I've done exactly this in previous version but kinda forgotten about it. You've inspired me to give it another go when I finish my current game.
We need more stuff like this (DoF and player agent "saves") It was so fun watching you and the other guy play it, I wish it was part of the FM.
Maybe SI can make defenders nd GKs not be complete crap before they try a new mode of play
You having a bad day?
I would love a version where we could play as players agents, negotiate deals, having to fulfill the players wishes, convince other players to become our clients, having to convince our players to sign with a club that pays a high agents fee and all of that stuff. Could be rlly fun imo.
this should be a game mode, where you can hire/fire coaches too just like the assistants. but where you can make the club vision and set expectations... has genuine potential, maybe a little bit too much considering SI's limited game development over the years
Don't know about anyone else bit when game 1st loads new save the amount of great head of youth development staff and they are happy been coaches etc
Just started my own DOF at Chelsea got Ricardo carvahlo as the assistant, cool narrative
Bryan Klug used to be an outsanding AssMan in previous FM editions (haven’t checked him out in 23, but I doubt he’s regressed).
The goat!! He's my go to assistant manager and his attributes are still insanely good 👍
Wish someone can make a mod so you can be own clubs or be in the board or DOF like this would be mad fun
I've flipped my Brighton save in to this about 4 weeks ago to try it for a season. Really enjoying it so far! Get a skin that allows for 'instant result' though - much easier than going on holiday each time.
Love to hear it! Instant result will stay take into account your team selection and tactics is the only issue. I want to have absolutely no influence
@@Clayts Yeah I went for a more political approach admittedly 😂
Such a cool concept!
#InPeruzziWeTrust #VioOut
Hope this becomes a series cause I'm going to be dropping a like and a sub right now
And upload frequently 😅😅 please
have you asked your manager to recommend a signing? Be interesting to see if he wants anyone
Oooh great idea! I’ll include that in a future vid.
As a Spurs fan I came here hoping to escape the grim reality that is this season. Not sure you've helped 🤔 but I'll be back to see how this goes. Fun take on a save, can see this catching on. 😁
This so should be an option in future FMs, then at least you can have a choice.
I'm a Arsenal fan and I would really like to test this with arteta as my assistant.. But I guess i need editor for that or maybe maybe change some files to get the assistant in my team to actually be the "manager" so you actually can sign manager's thats looking for a New job
In some of my saves my assistant became the manager of the year.. because i leave matches to him as i go on holiday but i chose the starting 11 and the tactic
Trustful was De Boer's assistant. For a very brief time at Palace.
I was defo thinking of de Boer when I said Koeman! My bad!
Maybe you could use a skin with instant result and you wouldn't need to go on holiday for every game. Cool save game concept!
If I instant result, I need to pick the team and tactics, if I holiday it leaves it all to the assistant
@@Clayts yeah I guess you're right, even though you could select the assistant's favorite tactic and make him choose the team. But maybe going on holiday creates more diverse tactics and team selections.
Really like the idea. As much as I'd like to feel sorry for you after those results, your choice of club has prevented that.
If Peruzzi doesn't work out maybe don't give up on the concept but change it slightly and start using the editor to "sign" the manager that you would like (whitin reason) for the assistant role.
Yeah I thought about this! In a couple of seasons you can usually pick up some more esteemed managers as assistants as well - the gerrards or Lampards of the world.
If things go pear-shaped let’s turn it into a DOF Journeyman!
I think I do more silly than be DOF. I have given all the match day responsibilities to the assistant coach and all the negociating to the Dof. I just select who we target for player and staff hires, and who we offer contract extensions too. Been doing it for years. I tell them what training to do though.
Would have gone for the Dutch guy who was probably de Boer’s assistant at Palace. Vio must surely play for set pieces and not much else? Not sure there’s merit on having a set piece coach in charge!
that first Firmino goal was a no look finish for sure
Rlly cool ngl, would love more of this!
Looking back, removing Stellini was a genius move lmfaoo
nice one never thought have doing this looks fun
HAve been wanting this role to be on Fm for years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love the flowers for SYC, what a man
a DOF game would be so cool, including like sponsorship meetings!
Tbh at some clubs, the dof doesnt get a say in sponsorships as thats more the commercial manager or ceo that has that in their remit
You can set yourself as unable to be fired with the editor (I think) and that would then let you truly be the director of football and hire/fire as you need.
An alternative way would be to appoint one of your coaches as head coach and then let the assistant stay as the assistant.
Great choice in Angelo. Always my go to assistant manager
Great idea for a save. Might not be a long one though 🤣🤣
I've done this for a few years now for other clubs in my main save, just to keep things more interesting as AI recruitment can be poor.!
Me when I see you sacked Stellini Straight away
"Can't believe you done that".
I watched the reaction to the first result at least five times 🤣🤣🤣
As a spurs fan I wish you would've gone Perez it would've been so perfect
is there anyway i can download your skin? or is it not published and only you use it? also great video, loving this concept
Hey @clayts - I have a quick question - I've started a Charlton DoF save - brought in a manager. I've set the tactic to his preferred formation and style of play - he's flying, we are 5 games in and top of league one. However, I still seem to have to watch each game and 'accept' substitution suggestions. How do I avoid this? I'm pretty sure i've given him as much control as I can - do you just go on holiday for the day?
Did this with Chelsea and got brian kidd as assistant manager
Interesting concept. I'd only do this if i could hire Nigel Pearson or Gennaro Gattuso as manager and neither would take the number 2 :(
IRL Gattuso is a poor manager
@@williamcross210 he did well at Napoli I thought
You need to think about a goalkeeper too and strengthen your wingbacks too
Agreed 👍
Add a second user unemployed. Then have them watch the TH games, that way you can see the live game without playing it.
Great advice, that's been a gamechanger for my save
Question: I should turn the responsibility for team selection off, right? Trying to do this in FM21
They should add also buying team on Fm so you can used the money that you made over the years on FM
Main issue i forsee is that you sign good players and promise them regular starter, but your Ass Man decides he wants to start others most of the time and they get pissed at you.
Yeah it’s definitely a fine line, I’m trying to under promise as much as I can when doing contracts and keeping the squad small to avoid too much unrest
PLEASE make this a series 🙏🙏
Emerson Royal is actually a very good defender in real life, he's just not great going forward. Although from what I have heard and seen he has improved recently
Conte is very good at getting WBs to play better
@@williamcross210 True. But I also don't want to fully credit Conte for this, Emerson has worked to improve himself. Pretty sure he paid money from his own paycheck to improve. He seems a very determined player!
Could you not use the In Game Editor to put in whosever you like? Could then put Poch in the role for example.
Yeah potentially, quite like the challenge at this point and I reckon we’ll organically get some managers that will be interested soon. Seen plenty take coaching roles before.
Just a little constructive criticism but when you were recruiting your Assistant (Manager) you had the Assistant Manager stats highlighted and not the Manager stats which you'd prefer to look at if they're doing that job.
Yeah I know, I wasn’t looking at them, 😂 I was just looking at motivating and the style of play really
you should make this a series
The wisest move was removing Stellini. In real world on 23/04/23 under his management Spurs lost 6-1 to Newcastle, that was one of the most embarrassing matches as a Spurs supporter of 37+ years I had to endure.
How do you add the player pictures to the tactics screen? Is that a skin?
How do I do this? I would love to give this save a go.
I played for 4 seasons like this. You cant be sack if team doing OK because game treats assist manager as main if you holday true season games.
Yeah exactly - the problems arise when the team doesn’t do so well!
The Spursiest start that Spurs ever had
Gianni Vio is Tottenham's set piece specialist 😂
He isn’t in my game any more 😂
@@Clayts the vast majority of Tottenham's goals have come from set pieces so with him managing without a set piece, basically screwed 🤣
I love to do the opposite every year. The Head coach challenge
Yeah - I’ve done a few saves like that, it’s good fun!
I’ve had this idea for a while as well
Would like a FM game but we are the owner of a club
Idk if going on holiday helps. Maybe you need to sit through the matches and leave it to him
You can’t do that I’m afraid
Is there a link that i can download so i can play Director of Football my self?
@Games Tell Stories currently running a very, very similar series - if the idea was spotted from him, give him a bit of credit!
It wasn’t 🤷♀️
@@Clayts That's all good then! - You're pretty good at giving credit where due from what I've seen, I've just enjoyed his series too and it's a brilliant and really different idea for a save
Yeah I’ll always try! I’ve seen him here in the comments, I’ll have to check out his series and maybe pick up some tips!
@@Clayts best tip I can give is stay away from Birmingham City 🤣
@@Clayts Looking forward to watching, especially doing it in a Prem environment - I really enjoyed the DOF Southampton series (skipped the Newcastle one as I'm a Mackem, sorry), so can't wait to have another series of yours to watch.
Trustfull was an Assistant to Frank de Boer
Yep 👍
PES 12 had this mode.
Would it be possible to use the editor to hire a manager like Mourinho as an assistant ?
It definitely would, I’ve left the editor turned on in case this is something we might want to do but I’m tempted to wait and see, I think some managers will be available to sign as coaches or assistants eventually.
Will be a shame as you won’t really get any proper managers coz they wouldn’t want the assistant job.
Gowannnnnn 💪🤘
Im sure Koeman was only at Soton and Everton?
Yeah he was - confused him with de boer!
Should get the assistant manager to recommend a new coach
Hey Clayts Conte will no longer be Spurs Head coach as u well know Its Dan Daven1 from your twitch channel chat from Banbury near Coventry
How do we do this ourself
Do you have a link for your skin please? :)
Jesus pèrez was poch assistant at spurs
i play fm games as dof from 1998
Spurs need all the help they can get
#ClaytsOut 😂😂😂
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What happened to the Worcester City save?
It’s my stream save - I do videos here for each season, we’ve just finished the next season, I recorded the script for it last night and I’m in the process of editing it.
@@Clayts looking forward to that
If the season performance got bad. Whom is gonna get fired?
Me… but I’d probably remove Peruzzi first! 😂 I can’t wait, it’s gonna be fun!
@@Clayts sometimes i still got fired even with full control 🤣. But i found that it depends on expectation, team level, board, etc.
Do you plan to go to full season holiday? What if there are conflicts like team dynamics, contracts, minutes played, etc?
Nah I’m not holidaying, I’m just holidaying the game days. And I’ve put all of the other responsibilities over to the assistant too so he’s dealing with it!
Allow the editor and bring in real managers when they’re either unemployed or can be poached
Cool
I always get nicky butt as assistant he got very nice attributes and he is cheap
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