12:19 "In terms of priority, it is making sure you get the largest size that will fit into your chassis comfortably." My sister has been living by this mantra for years.
I've had the same Corsair H100i for almost 5 years for my overclocked 6700K and it still runs and cools like a dream. I have reapplied thermal paste once or twice but am still a VERY happy AIO customer.
@@fiercebon14 I swapped the fans on day 1 when I got it to the corsair maglift fans vs the ball bearing ones they came with. (the ML 120's) Plus, they came in color vs just black or grey. the ML 120's still work great to this day.
Even underclocked mine still acts like a space heater. It's so sad xD I'm gonna build some water chiller contraption when I can. Formula Z board gets waaaay too hot, and then just dies. Stability eludes me
@@dangstalker I used a Gigabyte 990FXA UD3 and the vrms didn't get that hot surprisingly. It was a very solid board. The processor however, I could cook a meal on but joking aside it was a half decent processor for its time even if it did run a little hot.
I LOVE THIS. I literally posted on your old rad guide about u making a new video, and tweeted you about it - and TWO DAYS LATER you post this. Amazing. Swear you are the best ever
I have some been spinning away for years and are as silent as the day i got them, i was going to buy the h150 and was wondering if they'd out perform the supplied corsair fans?
@@addz17 Kinda. The fans they include are low RPM, and the radiator is optimized for low RPMs(low airflow restriction, sub-30mm thickness). Meaning it gets almost no scaling from more airflow/static pressure. As you get thicker/more restrictive radiators(like 60mm+ thickness or very high FPI rads), you want something like EK Varder EVOs, Noctua 12x25, or gentle typhoons.
I personally am using an H60 in combination with my i9 9900K simply because I’m not overclocking and will likely never truly push it to its TDP. This frees up the top and front fans to dump as much cool air into the case as possible.
@Daniel Plainview If you have a good aio with good thermal headroom you can also use it with the fans going 10% because it takes a long time to thermal throttle with an aio i think ltt oder Dawid doesTech Made an video about running an aio without the Air cooling just the aio it did very well
I reused my old coolermaster case with the double wide 120 AIO. There was space for two fans on the top of the case already, so I mounted the radiator to the top inside of the case, then mounted the fans on top of the case in a pull configuration. This gave me enough clearance to put the new MB in place. I had to customize the mount, because the old fan spacing didn't match the radiator, and also needed to drill a new hole and put a grommet to bypass the fan cables into the case. Very satisfactory result.
i literally just ordered a Corsair H115i Pro before watching this... this will be the first time i'm putting any liquid in a computer other than thermal compound.
@@killerash13 "through"? You mean "throw"? Why should they throw it away? it is getting the job done. The old saying, if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
I completely believe you, no reason it shouldn't be able to. The h100-115 series can easily handle any high end i7 on the market. I had an undelidded i7-7700k which is known to run as an inferno at 4.8ghz running at 80°C in IBT and Prime95, after delid (my cpu had absolutely TERRIBLE TIM, replaced it with liquid metal) now getting 55°C under load at 5.0ghz in iBT and prime95 on one of the hottest chips to date.
@@M4Inchan if they are trash then explain why they are so popular and widely used? If they were trash them multiple people would be complaining about them and they wouldn't be so popular
I recently purchased the H100i Pro. After using a Cryorig C7 low profile cooler for my i5-6600K (not overclocked) for a while, I figured the H100i would be mostly eye candy. Instead my load temps went from 65c to 37c. Such a massive jump for my CPU, it's insane. When I finally get around to OCing my CPU, I've got tons of headroom to work with because of that AIO.
I have this exact same cooler, it’s absolutely amazing I have never taken it off since 2012 and it still keeps i5 4690k below 70c in 2020, I’m sad I just upgraded my cpu but it’s going to my younger brother and will be put to good use.
I was able to fit a 240 corsair aio on the top of a corsair 220t case with about a mm of room to spare between the ram, vrms and fans. I love how it turned out. Everything is so closely packed together and it looks so good.
When it comes to AIOs I personally use a H100i with Noctua fans. If I need more cooling I use the industrial fans that are black and brown, but under normal circumstances the cream and brown fans are perfect. The EK Vardar fans are great too (considering they are made for static pressure) and so are the Corsair ML (magnetic levitation) fans. I like the ML fans because they have a pretty good static pressure, they are quiet and they come with a 5 year warranty. Of all my builds over the past 18 or so years, fans are one of the first failure points within the first 3 years or so, so spend the extra money on good fans from reputable companies and save your system from overheating from a fan failure. Building a new system from the ground up is a lot more expensive than buying good fans to start off. Also, clean you dust filters regularly because dust getting into your fans is what causes them to fail most often (from my experience), plus it clogs airflow and can cause static electricity to build inside your case and that will quickly brick your board.
Would have liked to see a temperature comparison just to see the approximate cooling potential disparities between the different sizes. Besides that; great explanation.
He's under NDA currently with those specific coolers, plus every AIO will be different. But from what I can tell at least, 1 fan for non-OC or itx, 2 for overclocking (perferred), 3 for less noise overall.
So I started doing some digging bc my pc does not match the image of what I paid for. Luckily the pc was advertised with the radiator being installed basically upside down. This channel is my favorite source to figure out things I should have known before making my purchases BUT all these videos are helping me learn not only what is in my pc but how they should be installed how to install tear down etc. thank you for all of your work and research!
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i got an old i7-920 slightly overclocked water cooled since day one of installation still running a comfortable 35-40 Celsius 24/7 with a single 120mm radiator from Corsair (i think it is the H50 or something similar). no hick-ups in the last 9 years. so i can confirm the stability over time for AIOs. and finally, i love your videos as they're very educational and funny to watch - thanks man :-)
I have both Corsair and Fractal Designs AIOs and both have worked well. I tend to favor the Fractal Celsius. No bloatware software control and a black color neutral design.
No matter what, I always come back to Jayz channel and videos, because Jay explains is simply, and practically. To me that's efficient and doesn't require the over explanation that other video content people offer. (If I wanted that I'd go watch Linus for an hour.. lol.) I'm over here like, "I need to OC my new 9700K, what AIO do I need?... Oh, Jayz got me. Here I am. Thank you Jay!
After watching Linus' video on the new Corsair custom water cooling products, I decided to go custom water cooling. Planning on a new PC build next year.
You see, that was my mind set until I learned about all the maintenance and the number of headaches that come along with custom water. I just gonna go with the h100i, it will hold up fine
280 mm radiators are comparable to 360s not 240s. Surface areas are 288, 392 and 432 sq.cm for the 240. 280 and 360 respectively, which makes the 280 36% larger than the 240 and only 10% smaller than the 360.
+1 for the Gentle Typhoons!!! They outperform every other fan I've tried in terms of both temps AND noise when cooling off my 7700k @ 5.1 gHz with a 240mm AIO
@@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 Yea that video really helped solidify my stance on AIO coolers. In general they are more expensive, have more ways of failing and potentially much much worse consequences of failure than comparable air coolers. The only reasons to go with AIO would be looks or the small form factor. Otherwise air is cheaper, less ways to fail, and not so bad when they do fail and are easy to fix. Just slap a new fan on it instead of buying a new one.
@ Also true, which will depend on your motherboard and ram config. Aside from these special circumstances, AIOs just don't have a great value proposition. Even something like a Hyper 212 Evo has a much better value in terms of price to performance.
Great video Jay and loving the new set. Would love to see a more in-depth video on air flow as AIO’s are only part of the overall system and how these interact with different methods of cooling.
Just to add I think the only reasons you need an AIO are (1) If the country you're at is really hot and (2) If you stream, record gameplay, and do something that stresses your computer. I was using a Cryorig Quad Lumi and it can't handle game recording because I use my processor as the encoder. Switched to Corsair H100i Platinum RGB and its the best!
After a few builds now with AIO's I've found 280mm rads to be the sweet spot for chips being pushed. But honestly, there are a few air coolers that are performing at the same level or in some cases better than AIO's. Most notably the Noctua NH-D15, which is almost half the price of my current Kraken X62.
I use a Noctua D15 and have for years now and am very satisfied with the quality and the couple of times I've contacted customer support for a different mounting bracket and additional fan they've been very responsive and helpful.
I bought an original H100i back in 2014 and I really enjoyed it. I used it to overclock my FX 8320 to 4.56ghz in an attempt to push some more use out of it. That cooler went out on me late last year(evap through the rubber tubes? It sounded all sloshy inside), so I got a H100i Pro from Best Buy for 110$(cheaper than my original I got from NewEgg haha). I have since upgraded and I use it on my R7 2700X. It keeps me cool and while on full load I don't get over 65c on non-overclocked 2700X. I would recommend it. 👍🏻 EDIT: something I would like to add is that when I had the rad fans set to output the air the PC acted as a space heater in my small room. I have switched them to intake and the heat output is now low enough my room doesn't get hot. There is now a nice positive pressure inside the case, too. The case gets warm to the touch. My GPU is unaffected by this, I was worried at first about this. I also have it mounted slightly to the side. I have a honeycomb patter on the top of my case. As you mentioned my Gigabyte Aorus board has a large VRM heatsync and it interferes with my rad, I just shifted the radiator to mount in the honeycomb instead of the fan mounting holes. It works just as it would normally, but is slightly offset when I take off the side panel.
Hardware Unboxed answered that question in one of their last QnA videos. Their experiences were more around 2 years. Would love to see Jay do a video on that.
Mine is 10 years old... that's right im still gaming on x58 chipset. I still think I can get a couple more years out of her. Edit: because the guy above me I leave my pc on 24/7 and game about 4-6 hours a day. With a reboot every 2days
I run an i9 9900k and 1080 FTW on a custom loop with a pair of 360 rads. One front and one top mounted. 6x fans on top 5x fans on front. I did this so that all fans run on min speed all the time. The added thermal buffer absorbs heat spikes easily without having to rev up fans.
Does depend on use though for someone trying to squeeze out 4.9Ghz+ CPU’s then sure a bigger rad helps. I have my 8700k at 4.8Ghz and even with a 240mm radiator I rarely exceed 70’C because my fans are maxed out. I can’t hear anything when I have my headset on so fan noise is not an issue.
TheJamsplat I want to get the same CPU and overclock it to 4.6 GHz, but I’m confused because of the video made by Linus. By his test A normal fan is better than a water cooler in temperatures
@@foop8964 All depends on the environment of your case and the budget you have. An air cooler is usually your more cost effective option but when overclocking you might need some beefy fan to cool effectively and you will need to maintain your case(dust building up). AIO is the low noise, low maintainence option only having to replace the unit when you feel the temps are no longer stable (dust is less of an issue but you should still clean every 6-12months).
I'm so glad you made this video. Just yesterday I was looking to see if the H60 would be sufficient for what I was running. Was gonna give my parts to someone else that was going to be rendering a lot and while I know my cooling isn't very good, it wasn't going to tax it like they were going to so was gonna see if a smaller, cheaper AIO would be good. Good timing, Jay!
Finally a video that talks properly about AIOs - it would be great to do a video about what configuration these watercoolers can be used in, e.g. at the front, top, back - push and pull
Hello, I have one from Arctic. Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240. The CPU is Ryzen 5 3600, I have only set the game profile in BIOS to 4,2GHz. CPU sits on MSI B450 Tomahawk Max. Paired with 2x 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 HyperX Predator. I am very satisfied. In idle 30-40°C. In max load was 72°C. I had 88°C in max load with stock cooler. I also have 4 more 120mm vents from Arctic. 1 for intake and 3 for exhaust. The rad is mounted in front of the case and vents are as intake. Arctic has simply connection, just connect to CPU_FAN and that's it. I have been mounting one from Corsair for friend of mine. And a lot of wires are leading from cooler. I had to read the manual which wire to connect to. You do great job. Nice videos.
I would love a video that focuses on building af silent computer, how important is the individual fans?.. AIO vs fan for CPU, what about all the other fans? Thank you for all the great content you make!
The right size for me is the Noctua size because I am a set and forget kind of guy. Been running my NH-D14 on 2600k for almost a decade now, and it still runs fine.
Just ordered an h100i. Excited for it to arrive and I’ve been running a stock wraith cooler on my 3600, so I’m ready for the improvement. I’m currently just upgrading my whole system step by step because I can’t get a gpu yet.
if you dont overclock its better value to get a air cooler,you can get a 120mm aio if you prefer the looks and silence,if you overclock get a 240mm and up
I'm overclocked at 5.2ghz on my i5-9600K and I use 1 single 120mm fan/radiator setup (mini-ITX setup). And I'm at 50-52 degC at max during extreme gaming. And I game for at least 8 hours a day. So yes, 1 single 120mm fan/radiator setup is good enough cooling even for overclocked setup.
I'm here after finding out lowering the pump speed to avoid the noise on my 360 rad caused the temps to skyrocket. Something I don't see mentioned practically anywhere is how noisy pumps are in water cooling setups (or at least AIOs). They emit an awful buzzing noise above a certain 'RPM' and if you lower the speed to make the buzzing go away, the pump may not even have enough pressure to make the exchange work in the first place. A far cry from lowering fan RPM which still works just fine, but doesn't cause the massive issue with heat build up. After owning 2 different AIOs over the last few years, I'm going back to air cooling with an NH-D15. Can't afford an entire custom loop and even if I could there's no guarantee those separate pump units are silent.
My pump makes no noise at all and I have the H150i Pro so you may have had a defective pump. My setup doesn’t make a sound even when i’m overclocked to 5 Ghz on my i9-9900K.
Love your videos, man. The content, the editing, the little onscreen explanations, jokes, everything. For me, it makes the content interesting, catchy, funny and many other things beside being informative. You guys go far and beyond when it comes to providing quality content. Keep up the excellent fucking work you are doing.
Let's put it this way... modding a mazda MX5 car rad and utilising the 2 x 12 inch car rad fans produced a similar noise to a C130 aircraft. Amazing sound.
Thanks for this. Ive been looking into getting into water cooling with my new build, and I know AIO's are the best first step into it. Looking to actually OC my Ryzen 7 2700X thats currently sitting at stock speeds with the stock cooler.
You know, years ago Linus made a series of videos on a whole-room watercooling project. As you may have expected, he completely bungled it up in every possible way. I'm interested in the idea of infrastructural watercooling, since being able to exhaust heat outside would be an amazing thing in the summer months. Any chance you could give it a shot? In less absurd requests, could you recommend some cases with lots of clearance for mounting radiators and maintaining the system?
Old video, but I have to give props to the corsair H70 (thicker rad then the H60) that I bought when the intel 2600K i7 came out. The H70 ran for 10 years with a 4,8Ghz overclock (56C @ full load/ two fans cnfg) before I upgraded to a new CPU and cooler. Now there where less water in it, but the performance was still there when it got taken out.
I found a good balance using the Corsair with a double fan, but replacing the original fans with Noctua's specific radiator models. The performance is great and the noise is much smaller than the original, since these need less rotation to move the air.
I have a 120mm aio with a 10th gen i7 10700k overclocked on push/pull config and honestly I have never had an issue. Never passed 55 degrees on full load. To be fair I have the 220t case with 8 fans in it.
When I purchased my H60, the dudes at Microcenter scoffed at the "uselessness" of my choice for an entry level AIO. I was able to fit it comfortably in my old and cramped NZXT Vulcan MicroATX case and OC my 3570k to 4.5 GHz @ 1.256V without ever getting above 73°C during prime95 stress tests. Keeping this 2012 build chugging along in 2019 is a win in my book. AIO's are a clean and simple solution.
12:19 "In terms of priority, it is making sure you get the largest size that will fit into your chassis comfortably." My sister has been living by this mantra for years.
Damn.
i'm confused, i'm seeing this as a dirty joke. Is that a dirty joke?
I need to know, I can't sleep because of this.
Hyokins “What are you doing StepBro?”
Oh, trust us...we know. =)
@@GentlyUsedFrog lmao
Personally I would say the size of watercooler depends on the square footage of your office and maybe the amount of coworkers you have
Under rated comment deserves more up votes.
Damn fine comment
This is beautiful
@R J what about the weight of mice per month?
@@marcleblanc3225 I see you are a reddit man
1:01 was that sound an editing mistake? because it scared the shit out of me
Yeah, blame Phil :P
I fell off my bed
Glad I’m not the only one
Yeah me too, i were suprised.
lol i thought i was hearing stuff lol god dammit phil
being hearing impaired is almost a blessing when it comes to high end pc hardware, i can run my fans full blast without being bothered lmao
Andrew Fowler tbh even with perfectly functioning hearing with headphones on you can barely hear it
Maybe I got lucky but even at 100% rpm on all fans with my 360mm aio my PC is near silent. Until the 1080ti ramps up to 100% that is.
@@kylequinn1963 damn thats awesome, i wouldnt know but my brother tells me my pc sounds like an airplane taking off 😂😅
@@kylequinn1963 what aio :)?
I have Hyperacusis so i’m the opposite and it’s awful, Good thing is that i’ve been able to train my ears to be better.
5:16 Size doesn't matter, you just need the right technique on how to put it in.
Haha
Lol
Rude xD
Ahh ein Spion von Klixtra aha :D
Sanic The Hedge Hawk Klixtra ist auch nice
I've had the same Corsair H100i for almost 5 years for my overclocked 6700K and it still runs and cools like a dream. I have reapplied thermal paste once or twice but am still a VERY happy AIO customer.
I have had the same cooler and CPU for the same period of time and never seen temps over 41c under load. Never reapplied thermal paste either :)
Have you ever replaced the fans on it?
@@fiercebon14 I swapped the fans on day 1 when I got it to the corsair maglift fans vs the ball bearing ones they came with. (the ML 120's) Plus, they came in color vs just black or grey. the ML 120's still work great to this day.
The more of these videos I watch the more I realize I dont know wtf I'm doin
Haha..
yeah, happens to me as well. it is called Dunning-Kruger effect. google it to look more information about it
😂😂😂😂😂
@@jantski5084 thanks, you taught me something new today :)
@@turbo_bikini you're welcome :)
I remember when I had my FX9590. I used a pond pump and fish tank to keep that thing cool.
i'm still using a 9590 had to downclock to 4ghz to keep cool my vrm's were being raped
@@bubbabo2308 If there's one thing, they double as a space heater.
Even underclocked mine still acts like a space heater. It's so sad xD I'm gonna build some water chiller contraption when I can. Formula Z board gets waaaay too hot, and then just dies. Stability eludes me
@@dangstalker I used a Gigabyte 990FXA UD3 and the vrms didn't get that hot surprisingly. It was a very solid board. The processor however, I could cook a meal on but joking aside it was a half decent processor for its time even if it did run a little hot.
@@LordPoshnameVonPlumbingparts When it runs, it's cool, but I've spent years on this thing and can't afford to swap parts yet, maybe someday!
Wow I can’t wait to add this to my chromebook
Why stop there? Install a car radiator to your chromebook! It will make it very cool.
Or better yet, operate your chromebook inside a freezer room!
Were you thinking about intake or outtake? I have my radiator drilled into the bottom of my chrome book to draw in cool air
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
120 : Normal AIO
240 : OverClock
360 : Quiet
Yes
@@justint.6618 Fake ass Justin
Anthony Thomas fake Anthony
I have a 120 and i overclocked to 4.8ghz
Zenma what cpu? 9700k?
01:01 what the hell was that sound effect?
@João M. obviously. the platform.
Obviously. It's jayz's true alien form...
think it was music that was meant to be muted during recording got unpaused
Jay said "blame Phil"
it was software
I LOVE THIS. I literally posted on your old rad guide about u making a new video, and tweeted you about it - and TWO DAYS LATER you post this. Amazing. Swear you are the best ever
Never thought I'd hear the name Gentle Typhoon again in 2019. Those were legendary fans.
I have some been spinning away for years and are as silent as the day i got them, i was going to buy the h150 and was wondering if they'd out perform the supplied corsair fans?
@@addz17 Kinda. The fans they include are low RPM, and the radiator is optimized for low RPMs(low airflow restriction, sub-30mm thickness). Meaning it gets almost no scaling from more airflow/static pressure.
As you get thicker/more restrictive radiators(like 60mm+ thickness or very high FPI rads), you want something like EK Varder EVOs, Noctua 12x25, or gentle typhoons.
I personally am using an H60 in combination with my i9 9900K simply because I’m not overclocking and will likely never truly push it to its TDP. This frees up the top and front fans to dump as much cool air into the case as possible.
How about the temperature peformance?
Thanks, I’m gonna go with the biggest boy!. I have hyper sensitive hearing so i want the least noise from my computer as possible :)
@Daniel Plainview ?
@Daniel Plainview If you have a good aio with good thermal headroom you can also use it with the fans going 10% because it takes a long time to thermal throttle with an aio i think ltt oder Dawid doesTech Made an video about running an aio without the Air cooling just the aio it did very well
@Daniel Plainview yeah I think it's all both very quiet but she/he bought it like 1 year ago so nvmd
I recently went from aio's to full custom loops. I don't think i'll ever look back. And yes, it's all because of you Jay!! Thank you!
Loving the new set. Nice to see you stocking up corsair products on the back shelves for this vid Kappa
yeah i like corsair too /s
zJager Kappa?
#corsairarmyhere
@@AdrenalineRushMX its a twitch.tv chat meme
I'm a big Corsair fan. Lovin' my 250D case.
The proper JayzTwoCents title would be "What size is right for you"
It's not the size of the AIO but the motion of the....
@@EddieLynn pump
ladies...
@Jorus C'baoth I love how you put NZXT in its own category when they use the exact same pumps as corsair.
I reused my old coolermaster case with the double wide 120 AIO. There was space for two fans on the top of the case already, so I mounted the radiator to the top inside of the case, then mounted the fans on top of the case in a pull configuration. This gave me enough clearance to put the new MB in place. I had to customize the mount, because the old fan spacing didn't match the radiator, and also needed to drill a new hole and put a grommet to bypass the fan cables into the case. Very satisfactory result.
i literally just ordered a Corsair H115i Pro before watching this... this will be the first time i'm putting any liquid in a computer other than thermal compound.
I love your videos, you inspired me to build my first PC and water cool it. Keep up the awesome work.
Still using a H110i GTX from the previous series of Corsair to cool down a 4790K OC at 4.9 Ghz. Believe me or not it's still getting the job done.
Just through it away already.
@@killerash13 "through"? You mean "throw"? Why should they throw it away? it is getting the job done. The old saying, if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
I completely believe you, no reason it shouldn't be able to. The h100-115 series can easily handle any high end i7 on the market. I had an undelidded i7-7700k which is known to run as an inferno at 4.8ghz running at 80°C in IBT and Prime95, after delid (my cpu had absolutely TERRIBLE TIM, replaced it with liquid metal) now getting 55°C under load at 5.0ghz in iBT and prime95 on one of the hottest chips to date.
The Platinum series from Corsair is made by Cool-IT and not Asetek btw. The Cool-IT pumps are meant to perform better
Doesn't really matter when the corsair fans are still trash.
@@M4Inchan Preach brother! Waiting on the blacked out new fans from Noctua to replace all of mine
@@copy.4123 How is it meant to perform better? :)
@@M4Inchan The ML Pro series are a lot better than the others.
@@M4Inchan if they are trash then explain why they are so popular and widely used? If they were trash them multiple people would be complaining about them and they wouldn't be so popular
12:18 - short and simple answer you guys want
I recently purchased the H100i Pro. After using a Cryorig C7 low profile cooler for my i5-6600K (not overclocked) for a while, I figured the H100i would be mostly eye candy. Instead my load temps went from 65c to 37c. Such a massive jump for my CPU, it's insane. When I finally get around to OCing my CPU, I've got tons of headroom to work with because of that AIO.
Bismarck is looking good on the new set! Ever thought of doing a video about modeling?
How long would one last
He wrote on his instagram once that he won't do any videos about modeling even tho he's quite good at it.
ruclips.net/video/_RTuaqL-eD4/видео.html I cant help myself I see Bismark I gotta share this.
King of the ocean
Looking forward to a definitive breakdown on push vs pull configurations controlling for ambient temperature and fan types.
Seth Larson me too man. Hopefully he’ll be able to answer a lot of the rumors floating around lol
For me, pull works better. H500m. I pull in from the top.
My Cosair H55 has been running non-stop since 2010.
don't lie
you pry have like 2 droplets of liquid leftn
I have this exact same cooler, it’s absolutely amazing I have never taken it off since 2012 and it still keeps i5 4690k below 70c in 2020, I’m sad I just upgraded my cpu but it’s going to my younger brother and will be put to good use.
A 120x240mm vs 140x280mm vs 120x360mm aio video would be well received. I personally believe that the 280mm is the "sweet spot" vs the 240mm.
I was able to fit a 240 corsair aio on the top of a corsair 220t case with about a mm of room to spare between the ram, vrms and fans. I love how it turned out. Everything is so closely packed together and it looks so good.
I can’t cut mine on top or front with new gpu so now gotta look at a 120mm one on the back as exhaust
When it comes to AIOs I personally use a H100i with Noctua fans. If I need more cooling I use the industrial fans that are black and brown, but under normal circumstances the cream and brown fans are perfect. The EK Vardar fans are great too (considering they are made for static pressure) and so are the Corsair ML (magnetic levitation) fans. I like the ML fans because they have a pretty good static pressure, they are quiet and they come with a 5 year warranty. Of all my builds over the past 18 or so years, fans are one of the first failure points within the first 3 years or so, so spend the extra money on good fans from reputable companies and save your system from overheating from a fan failure. Building a new system from the ground up is a lot more expensive than buying good fans to start off. Also, clean you dust filters regularly because dust getting into your fans is what causes them to fail most often (from my experience), plus it clogs airflow and can cause static electricity to build inside your case and that will quickly brick your board.
Would have liked to see a temperature comparison just to see the approximate cooling potential disparities between the different sizes. Besides that; great explanation.
He's under NDA currently with those specific coolers, plus every AIO will be different. But from what I can tell at least, 1 fan for non-OC or itx, 2 for overclocking (perferred), 3 for less noise overall.
Jay I have asked for a long time you benchmark radiator scaling in an open loop to show how cooling potential scales. This would be the perfect time
I would be interested in this as well!
So I started doing some digging bc my pc does not match the image of what I paid for. Luckily the pc was advertised with the radiator being installed basically upside down. This channel is my favorite source to figure out things I should have known before making my purchases BUT all these videos are helping me learn not only what is in my pc but how they should be installed how to install tear down etc. thank you for all of your work and research!
i got an old i7-920 slightly overclocked water cooled since day one of installation still running a comfortable 35-40 Celsius 24/7 with a single 120mm radiator from Corsair (i think it is the H50 or something similar). no hick-ups in the last 9 years. so i can confirm the stability over time for AIOs. and finally, i love your videos as they're very educational and funny to watch - thanks man :-)
Crazy how I started researching AIOs and you uploaded a video.
@@rama-rao-y8u He knows *all*
Same, I've been researching them and trying to decide what case and fans to choose all day literally for like 12+ hours.
I have both Corsair and Fractal Designs AIOs and both have worked well. I tend to favor the Fractal Celsius. No bloatware software control and a black color neutral design.
Wow that is amazing! I mean what are the chances of someone out there researching AIOs and coming across a video of just that? WOW!
@@toriawelsh7274 Wow an asshole. Never thought I'd see one with my own eyes. Amazing find.
No matter what, I always come back to Jayz channel and videos, because Jay explains is simply, and practically. To me that's efficient and doesn't require the over explanation that other video content people offer. (If I wanted that I'd go watch Linus for an hour.. lol.)
I'm over here like, "I need to OC my new 9700K, what AIO do I need?... Oh, Jayz got me.
Here I am.
Thank you Jay!
Quit lying man, I see you over on Greg Salazar's channel way more than here
I can't wait to see the Corsair Hydro X build. :)
@Cemil are you stupid
@Cemil tbh any fan is good for a radiator. Back before static pressure fans were a thing we had to use regular fans on out radiators
@Cemil yes they are good
Yeet
I have a grow tent and an exhaust fan in my office. Sound from cpu fans is almost unnoticed. Love your channel!
Warranty matters as well. My corsair h110i is now 4years old and only had to replace the fans. Still running 100%.
1:01 that scared the crap outta meh(the random sound)
Sound hiccup. :P
After watching Linus' video on the new Corsair custom water cooling products, I decided to go custom water cooling. Planning on a new PC build next year.
You see, that was my mind set until I learned about all the maintenance and the number of headaches that come along with custom water. I just gonna go with the h100i, it will hold up fine
So have you bought your pc already?
"Making sure you get the largest size that will fit in your chassis comfortably". So that's how it works.
280 mm radiators are comparable to 360s not 240s. Surface areas are 288, 392 and 432 sq.cm for the 240. 280 and 360 respectively, which makes the 280 36% larger than the 240 and only 10% smaller than the 360.
+1 for the Gentle Typhoons!!! They outperform every other fan I've tried in terms of both temps AND noise when cooling off my 7700k @ 5.1 gHz with a 240mm AIO
I'd put a Noctua NH-D15 up against any water cooler head to head any day. If your case can fit a large air cooler, that's the way to go IMO.
Noctua crushes the 120 and 240 with ease, Linus showed that some time ago!
@@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 Yea that video really helped solidify my stance on AIO coolers. In general they are more expensive, have more ways of failing and potentially much much worse consequences of failure than comparable air coolers. The only reasons to go with AIO would be looks or the small form factor. Otherwise air is cheaper, less ways to fail, and not so bad when they do fail and are easy to fix. Just slap a new fan on it instead of buying a new one.
counter argument:
buy Noctua air coolers!
@ Also true, which will depend on your motherboard and ram config. Aside from these special circumstances, AIOs just don't have a great value proposition. Even something like a Hyper 212 Evo has a much better value in terms of price to performance.
@@Sophistry0001 Air Cooling > < Custom Liquid Cooling
AIO's are trash
Jay and sizes...
Name a more iconic duo.
Yeah, I'll wait
linus and sizes xD
Great video Jay and loving the new set. Would love to see a more in-depth video on air flow as AIO’s are only part of the overall system and how these interact with different methods of cooling.
Just to add I think the only reasons you need an AIO are (1) If the country you're at is really hot and (2) If you stream, record gameplay, and do something that stresses your computer. I was using a Cryorig Quad Lumi and it can't handle game recording because I use my processor as the encoder. Switched to Corsair H100i Platinum RGB and its the best!
I got a triple sized one because I said I might as well go big or go home. Definitely don’t regret it
That 280mm needed to be included in this review :o/
Thanks for the video.
I was just staring at that 2080ti Kingpin in the back🤤
After a few builds now with AIO's I've found 280mm rads to be the sweet spot for chips being pushed. But honestly, there are a few air coolers that are performing at the same level or in some cases better than AIO's. Most notably the Noctua NH-D15, which is almost half the price of my current Kraken X62.
I use a Noctua D15 and have for years now and am very satisfied with the quality and the couple of times I've contacted customer support for a different mounting bracket and additional fan they've been very responsive and helpful.
I have a small room so I went with 360, so I could run the fans at lower rpm. It’s been working out fabulously so far.
I bought an original H100i back in 2014 and I really enjoyed it. I used it to overclock my FX 8320 to 4.56ghz in an attempt to push some more use out of it. That cooler went out on me late last year(evap through the rubber tubes? It sounded all sloshy inside), so I got a H100i Pro from Best Buy for 110$(cheaper than my original I got from NewEgg haha). I have since upgraded and I use it on my R7 2700X. It keeps me cool and while on full load I don't get over 65c on non-overclocked 2700X. I would recommend it. 👍🏻
EDIT: something I would like to add is that when I had the rad fans set to output the air the PC acted as a space heater in my small room. I have switched them to intake and the heat output is now low enough my room doesn't get hot. There is now a nice positive pressure inside the case, too. The case gets warm to the touch. My GPU is unaffected by this, I was worried at first about this. I also have it mounted slightly to the side. I have a honeycomb patter on the top of my case. As you mentioned my Gigabyte Aorus board has a large VRM heatsync and it interferes with my rad, I just shifted the radiator to mount in the honeycomb instead of the fan mounting holes. It works just as it would normally, but is slightly offset when I take off the side panel.
me thinking I'm insane hearing a small jingle thing
me replaying the video and realizing that its just there
I wish the H150i Pro would come in the Platinum version
White 360mm is needed only enermax
Can you do a video on the longevity of aio coolers? Thanks !
Typically around 3-5 years
@@ButchFX no i would say 2 to 3 years and 4 is the maximum
Hardware Unboxed answered that question in one of their last QnA videos. Their experiences were more around 2 years. Would love to see Jay do a video on that.
Mine is 10 years old... that's right im still gaming on x58 chipset. I still think I can get a couple more years out of her.
Edit: because the guy above me I leave my pc on 24/7 and game about 4-6 hours a day. With a reboot every 2days
7 years, still rocking.
I have an H80i v2 and I love it. Never understood why it's not more popular.
I run an i9 9900k and 1080 FTW on a custom loop with a pair of 360 rads. One front and one top mounted. 6x fans on top 5x fans on front. I did this so that all fans run on min speed all the time. The added thermal buffer absorbs heat spikes easily without having to rev up fans.
Easy answer... Largest you can fit in your case. Lower temps & Lower noise.
Does depend on use though for someone trying to squeeze out 4.9Ghz+ CPU’s then sure a bigger rad helps. I have my 8700k at 4.8Ghz and even with a 240mm radiator I rarely exceed 70’C because my fans are maxed out. I can’t hear anything when I have my headset on so fan noise is not an issue.
TheJamsplat I have like 20-30dB of noise in my case, with all fans (if i open it’s maybe 40dB) but i still get irritated by it.
Like 3 fans and one of the are the cpu cooler xD
TheJamsplat I want to get the same CPU and overclock it to 4.6 GHz, but I’m confused because of the video made by Linus. By his test A normal fan is better than a water cooler in temperatures
@@foop8964 All depends on the environment of your case and the budget you have. An air cooler is usually your more cost effective option but when overclocking you might need some beefy fan to cool effectively and you will need to maintain your case(dust building up). AIO is the low noise, low maintainence option only having to replace the unit when you feel the temps are no longer stable (dust is less of an issue but you should still clean every 6-12months).
I'm so glad you made this video. Just yesterday I was looking to see if the H60 would be sufficient for what I was running. Was gonna give my parts to someone else that was going to be rendering a lot and while I know my cooling isn't very good, it wasn't going to tax it like they were going to so was gonna see if a smaller, cheaper AIO would be good.
Good timing, Jay!
set is looking good Jay
you mean my 5 rads in my case are a waste???? lol
Finally a video that talks properly about AIOs - it would be great to do a video about what configuration these watercoolers can be used in, e.g. at the front, top, back - push and pull
Hello, I have one from Arctic. Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240. The CPU is Ryzen 5 3600, I have only set the game profile in BIOS to 4,2GHz. CPU sits on MSI B450 Tomahawk Max. Paired with 2x 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 HyperX Predator. I am very satisfied. In idle 30-40°C. In max load was 72°C. I had 88°C in max load with stock cooler. I also have 4 more 120mm vents from Arctic. 1 for intake and 3 for exhaust. The rad is mounted in front of the case and vents are as intake. Arctic has simply connection, just connect to CPU_FAN and that's it. I have been mounting one from Corsair for friend of mine. And a lot of wires are leading from cooler. I had to read the manual which wire to connect to. You do great job. Nice videos.
I just finally noticed that you're using the new set. Your previous videos using it I had zero clue lol.
I see the terror of the seas.
The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
2000 men and 50 000 tons of steel.
Sabaton, fuck yeah
@@rockytom5889 set a course for the Atlantic with the allies on their heel!
@@Osean_Kitty
Firepower,firefight
@@rockytom5889 Battle Stations, keep the targets steady in sight
I would love a video that focuses on building af silent computer, how important is the individual fans?.. AIO vs fan for CPU, what about all the other fans?
Thank you for all the great content you make!
Tariro10000 as i learned, you will always hear the pump then :) So in that case a dual fan air cooler is the most quiet
The right size for me is the Noctua size because I am a set and forget kind of guy. Been running my NH-D14 on 2600k for almost a decade now, and it still runs fine.
Just ordered an h100i. Excited for it to arrive and I’ve been running a stock wraith cooler on my 3600, so I’m ready for the improvement. I’m currently just upgrading my whole system step by step because I can’t get a gpu yet.
I feel that. I've been buying a bunch of other stuff to upgrade my rig because I can't get a gpu lol
if you dont overclock its better value to get a air cooler,you can get a 120mm aio if you prefer the looks and silence,if you overclock get a 240mm and up
Don't say silence to a Thermaltake 120mm AIO that comes with Batwings fans in push/pull config, they are loud AF!!!
I have the Corsair H150i PRO in Push/Pull configuration. Keeps my 9700k icy cool. its a bit over kill though.... but that's what i like about it.
mine is in push pull, replacing it with an air cooler for same performance
@@zooker2185 ecuse me? Noooo
@@zooker2185 the aio is better and is far more silent
@@oof5882 i have an h150i
@@oof5882 i get around the same perf as the drp4 or d15 with much more noise
Nooo Jay! You should have reviewed the 140mm Fans as well!!!
Last year around September, I bought my first AIO, an H100i, by and large influenced by videos from Jay. I'm never looking back, again.
I'm overclocked at 5.2ghz on my i5-9600K and I use 1 single 120mm fan/radiator setup (mini-ITX setup). And I'm at 50-52 degC at max during extreme gaming. And I game for at least 8 hours a day. So yes, 1 single 120mm fan/radiator setup is good enough cooling even for overclocked setup.
I was looking into some Custom Loops instead of AIO but it is sooo expensive.
EK does sell kits
Let's see some FLIR footage of each rad at different loads!
Size doesn't matter, it's all about the technique... Atleast that's what she said
the Radiator not fitting on top of the case is why you install the radiator in the front of the case with a decent mesh front
I'm here after finding out lowering the pump speed to avoid the noise on my 360 rad caused the temps to skyrocket.
Something I don't see mentioned practically anywhere is how noisy pumps are in water cooling setups (or at least AIOs). They emit an awful buzzing noise above a certain 'RPM' and if you lower the speed to make the buzzing go away, the pump may not even have enough pressure to make the exchange work in the first place. A far cry from lowering fan RPM which still works just fine, but doesn't cause the massive issue with heat build up.
After owning 2 different AIOs over the last few years, I'm going back to air cooling with an NH-D15. Can't afford an entire custom loop and even if I could there's no guarantee those separate pump units are silent.
My pump makes no noise at all and I have the H150i Pro so you may have had a defective pump. My setup doesn’t make a sound even when i’m overclocked to 5 Ghz on my i9-9900K.
The gentle typhoon is back AP-15 on Amazon
My ex had a chassis that could accommodate the widest and longest of components
My question Jay is, should a person stick with the fans that come with the AIO or would you suggest to changing them out?
www.amazon.com/dp/B00650P2ZC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If that shared correctly. Nactua makes amazingly great and quiet fans.
Love your videos, man. The content, the editing, the little onscreen explanations, jokes, everything. For me, it makes the content interesting, catchy, funny and many other things beside being informative. You guys go far and beyond when it comes to providing quality content. Keep up the excellent fucking work you are doing.
Let's put it this way... modding a mazda MX5 car rad and utilising the 2 x 12 inch car rad fans produced a similar noise to a C130 aircraft. Amazing sound.
Thanks for this. Ive been looking into getting into water cooling with my new build, and I know AIO's are the best first step into it. Looking to actually OC my Ryzen 7 2700X thats currently sitting at stock speeds with the stock cooler.
AIO : summer is coming
noctua NH-U12A : i am a joke to you?
You know, years ago Linus made a series of videos on a whole-room watercooling project.
As you may have expected, he completely bungled it up in every possible way.
I'm interested in the idea of infrastructural watercooling, since being able to exhaust heat outside would be an amazing thing in the summer months. Any chance you could give it a shot?
In less absurd requests, could you recommend some cases with lots of clearance for mounting radiators and maintaining the system?
I’ve been using the H60 with my stock 5600X and no issues. Thanks Jay
You give so much information that at the end of the video I have no idea what I just watched.
You didn't include the asetek 645lt, the only 92mm aio on the market!
Me when im going all out on a liquid cooler: I just want the one with 3 fans not 2 or 1 3!
i actually the H60 on my 1080ti and have it over clocked some temps never pass 60c
Old video, but I have to give props to the corsair H70 (thicker rad then the H60) that I bought when the intel 2600K i7 came out.
The H70 ran for 10 years with a 4,8Ghz overclock (56C @ full load/ two fans cnfg) before I upgraded to a new CPU and cooler.
Now there where less water in it, but the performance was still there when it got taken out.
I found a good balance using the Corsair with a double fan, but replacing the original fans with Noctua's specific radiator models. The performance is great and the noise is much smaller than the original, since these need less rotation to move the air.
Asymptotic. I haven't seen that word since my college days.
Edit: Dear Zeenies, I'm a GenX'er. Now get off my lawn!
shut up boomer
Ok boomer
🅱️oomer
I think they wanted to say that it would be an exponential decay when comparing the number of fans against its effectiveness.
The problem is it's actually logarithmic. . .
Exponential effort for incremental increase.
The H115i Platinium is not an ASETEK
CoolIT FTW
suddenly notice a KMS Bismarck on the top left screen...
I have a 120mm aio with a 10th gen i7 10700k overclocked on push/pull config and honestly I have never had an issue. Never passed 55 degrees on full load. To be fair I have the 220t case with 8 fans in it.
When I purchased my H60, the dudes at Microcenter scoffed at the "uselessness" of my choice for an entry level AIO. I was able to fit it comfortably in my old and cramped NZXT Vulcan MicroATX case and OC my 3570k to 4.5 GHz @ 1.256V without ever getting above 73°C during prime95 stress tests. Keeping this 2012 build chugging along in 2019 is a win in my book. AIO's are a clean and simple solution.