@Oracle1221-d8p Why did Ten Haag get sacked then? If you base it purely on trophies, in the 2 seasons he was at United, he won 2 trophies. Only Pep did better than that.. by your measure, Ten Haag was a better manager than Klopp. Do you believe Ten Haag was a better manager than Klopp during his time at United?
@@willc6434 statistically going further down the league table reduces your chance of winning trophies. That's why he got the boot. If it were guaranteed he won Europa League but finished 13th the club would boot him but I would keep him
@@El-Rattled yes, but he was the anomaly, united went down the league and still won trophies. Do you think he deserved to be sacked when he did, after winning 2 trophies in 2 years?
I remember a while ago these fans are tired of staying top 4 with Arsene and asked for him to left the club. It will be just a matter of time the same argument will hit Mikel
That's not what he said 🤦🏼he said if you judge the united manager just on trophies, it's deceiving, because they win 2 trophies in 2 years, but they were a terrible outfit who absolutely stunk the league out. Listen to what he said 😂🤦🏼
@@raycarlbrown-amory3509 now you are progressing.. it's not just about trophies. If it was just about trophies, Ten Haag would still be in a job, 2 trophies in 2 years is good. And yet he was still sacked. And there are very few people who think it was wrong to sack him.
@willc6434 well lets face Areta. We need to win things because he has been there for 5 years and 1 fa cup and a couple of a couple of chairtes shiled wtf. They sacked ten hag for winning at utd something Arrea is not doing at Arsenal
Too funny this fanbase they love arteta more than the club lol it’s a simple fact in all sports winner get trophies and that how much you judge success at the club
Supercopa in LaLiga is a 2-stage tournament.. Besides that it holds some prestige in LaLiga just like Italian super cup and DFP super cup.. Only pReMieR leAguE haven't held their super cup with prestige becuz of their ego
If trophies are all the game is about, some clubs have never won anything, based on the comments they should all give up and play tennis. Man city and real madrid will play 38 times a season what a great sport it would be!!!!!!! Good job it isn't just about trophies
And he's officially won 3 whether people like it or not. He didn't take over a team as Slot inherited. Arteta had to rebuild the team from the ground up whilst constantly being doubted for his lack of experience. Challenging in the past 2 seasons shows just how far he's taken Arsenal who weren't even in the CL. Progressipon takes time, but we're heading in the right direction. Trophies will come. Don't seek the destination, if you can't handle the journey
Why did Ten Haag get sacked then? By your measure, Ten Haag did an outstanding job at United, 2 trophies in 2 seasons. Do you think Ten Haag did a great job?
Brummie talking so much sense i had to double take i was still listening to talksport
Im going to choose to take this as a compliment to me 😂
Sad thing is he actually thinks he’s won 3 trophies.
Yes he should, trophies are literally the aim of the sport.
It's the aim for top clubs, especially Arsenal
@Oracle1221-d8p Why did Ten Haag get sacked then? If you base it purely on trophies, in the 2 seasons he was at United, he won 2 trophies. Only Pep did better than that.. by your measure, Ten Haag was a better manager than Klopp. Do you believe Ten Haag was a better manager than Klopp during his time at United?
@@willc6434 statistically going further down the league table reduces your chance of winning trophies. That's why he got the boot. If it were guaranteed he won Europa League but finished 13th the club would boot him but I would keep him
@@El-Rattled yes, but he was the anomaly, united went down the league and still won trophies. Do you think he deserved to be sacked when he did, after winning 2 trophies in 2 years?
@@willc6434 no. Just because he fell down the table doesn't mean he was going to stay there
Arsenal are the 3rd 4th place place team for at least as long as i can remember
Trophies are too simplistic?? No wonder Arsenal is a small club
I remember a while ago these fans are tired of staying top 4 with Arsene and asked for him to left the club. It will be just a matter of time the same argument will hit Mikel
So it ok to judge utd managers on trophies but not Artea 😂😂😂
That's not what he said 🤦🏼he said if you judge the united manager just on trophies, it's deceiving, because they win 2 trophies in 2 years, but they were a terrible outfit who absolutely stunk the league out. Listen to what he said 😂🤦🏼
United are huge asana are small club
@SaeedMobayed wining trophies are part of the game. There is more going on at utd than just the manager. It more because of player power
@@raycarlbrown-amory3509 now you are progressing.. it's not just about trophies. If it was just about trophies, Ten Haag would still be in a job, 2 trophies in 2 years is good. And yet he was still sacked. And there are very few people who think it was wrong to sack him.
@willc6434 well lets face Areta. We need to win things because he has been there for 5 years and 1 fa cup and a couple of a couple of chairtes shiled wtf. They sacked ten hag for winning at utd something Arrea is not doing at Arsenal
Too funny this fanbase they love arteta more than the club lol it’s a simple fact in all sports winner get trophies and that how much you judge success at the club
Community shield is a glorified friendly.
Supercopa in LaLiga is a 2-stage tournament.. Besides that it holds some prestige in LaLiga just like Italian super cup and DFP super cup.. Only pReMieR leAguE haven't held their super cup with prestige becuz of their ego
Jesus mate, you seriously need to see someone. I think you’ve got a genuine problem…you can’t go 10 minutes without talking bow locks in a comment!
It's still Mickey mouse. If brokelona ever found themselves winning a club world cup you'd put it on the same level as the actual world cup
they may do for Barca because they win nothing but you'll never catch Madrid celebrating a supercopa
If u don't want to count em then why have em ?
If trophies are all the game is about, some clubs have never won anything, based on the comments they should all give up and play tennis. Man city and real madrid will play 38 times a season what a great sport it would be!!!!!!! Good job it isn't just about trophies
What the hell am i listening to??
What do u mean likeable players and too simplistic to judge on trophies 😂😂😂😂
Community shield is a damn trophy imo
In your opinion lol so spurs also have trophies than according to you because they’ve won Audi cups multiple times
They both friendly matches btw so what’s the difference?
@ lol…that’s low, comparing Audi cup to the community shield, Emirates Cup is bigger than Audi cup respectfully
from invincible's to gassing up community shields... 🤣🤣🤣
It's a major trophy, but I don't count any supercups including club world cup. The charity bit doesn't help either
You won't find a more stupid take.
That's literally his job as a manager to win trophys lol
And he's officially won 3 whether people like it or not. He didn't take over a team as Slot inherited. Arteta had to rebuild the team from the ground up whilst constantly being doubted for his lack of experience. Challenging in the past 2 seasons shows just how far he's taken Arsenal who weren't even in the CL. Progressipon takes time, but we're heading in the right direction. Trophies will come. Don't seek the destination, if you can't handle the journey
Why did Ten Haag get sacked then? By your measure, Ten Haag did an outstanding job at United, 2 trophies in 2 seasons. Do you think Ten Haag did a great job?
If you win the cup or league before, its a trophy... if you're 2nd behind a double winning team, it doesn't count
The only trophy he won is with the non serious team then! So he molded a team that doesn’t win. Doesn’t make sense !😂
No problem just don't be calling Arsenal a big club no more if they cant be judged on trophies...
3 years since Chelsea last won a trophy btw
@@El-Rattled yeah whats wrong with that its been 5 for Arsenal and 20 since their last league embarrassing numbers...