Moto Gymkhana Techniques Level 1: #4 No Clutch?
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2018
- Did you know that for most motorcycles, no clutch is necessary for Moto Gymkhana? Remember that Moto Gymkhana is NOT a slow speed style so slipping the clutch is not needed!
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Motorcycle riding is inherently dangerous. This video was filmed in a controlled environment with riders who have years of riding and teaching experience. Lexco Moto Gymkhana and all related personnel are not to be held responsible for any injury resulting from attempting these techniques.
Please wear safety gear, know your limits, know your motorcycle's limits, have fun, and always practice in a safe and controlled environment. 
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This chanel is not only about Gymkhana its about correctly learn how to ride a moto. Really LOVE THIS CHANEL!
Wow. Thank you for your comment. I am very happy to hear that you like the videos. Thanks for watching.
I am a beginner rider and recently found interest in the motorcycle gymkhana. I really love to practice maneuvering my motorbike on a small tight space. I watched a lot of videos in youtube and practice following their teaching and most of them are saying that we have to stay in the "Friction Zone" to turn on a tight space. And when I looked at the motorcycle gymkhana, man I still remember how my body chills and thinking "how are these guys able to turn in such a tight space with such a precision and speed using NO CLUTCH, OMG I want to learn that". The problem is that there are barely any videos talking about the gymkhana techniques. Therefore, I thank you so much for opening up channel that talks about gymkhana motorcycle techniques. I'm looking forward to more of your videos, maybe also make a video on what are the best adjustment (such as clutch adjustment, suspension, break, etc) on a motorbike, if there is any, when I want to get into motogymkhana.
I’m glad you found my channel. I hope that the videos will help get you started on your Moto Gymkhana journey. I am planning to do a short series of videos on modifications and adjustments soon. Stay tuned for those videos and thanks for watching. Take care, Brother.
Here in the Philippines, the land transport office accredited riding school is Honda riding to get your license. They teach beginners to moto gymkhana and this is the technique they teach. Throttle control and no clutch.
Excellent! That sounds like a fun way to learn to ride. I think it's great to know how to use the clutch but I think it's also important to learn to make a tight turn without it. Both skills are important and here in America, no one teaches people the "gymkhana" way. I hope to change that over time. Thanks for watching!
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana regular u turns basic clutch technique. Also depending on the power of your motorcycle, you can practice the no clutch on 2nd gear while doing a figure of 8. Going tighter and tighter. Great chanel. Keep en coming!
Glad to see that this isn't wrong. I tend to not use clutch when doing tight stuff...I'm just not going fast enough to? And I guess I feather front/rear brake sometimes.
That’s exactly right. When I’m doing really slow maneuvers on the street, I use lots of clutch but for Moto Gymkhana, the goal is to carry enough speed so that you don’t have to use the clutch. It’s better to modulate between the throttle and brakes :)
Hello, thank you very much for the videos, they are of great help for me who is just starting out. please don't forget to activate the subtitles in Spanish 😭🤣. Gracias un saludo desde España ✌️.
Gracias por la sugerencia. Lo voy a investigar inmediatamente. Gracias por visitar el canal. Cuidate, Amigo :)
Finally something about Gymkhana. That's great, and thank you! Quick question, you seem to hold the FD with the two "front fingers", I've learned to hold the throttle with my index finger and the and three fingers on the FB, like as "o.k" sign on the bike. Is that going to be a problem? I've been riding for quite a while so making a switch is going to take some time...
I don't think that you necessarily need to do it my way. If you look at professional MotoGP riders, you will find that they all have different ways of using the throttle and front brake with different amounts of fingers on the FB. Rossi uses 3 fingers on the FB, Marquez uses 1 finger and so on. It's the same with pro Moto Gymkhana riders too. As long as you have something that works well for you and get's the job done, who cares, right? The point is to have a technique that allows you to trail on and off the brake as you use the throttle and do it in a relaxed and accurate way with good feel.
My suggestion would be to try different techniques out and find out which is best for you and your motorcycle. If you try other techniques and they just don't feel right, then stick with what you're doing; If it ain't broke, don't fix it :)
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana Thank you! And by the way, Fast Eddie brought me here.
Excellent! I'm glad you follow Fast Eddie because he has motivated me and taught me so much. I'm very fortunate to know him :)
Wow i thought what i was doing is wrong " no clutch" still new and when i'm trying to do circle and fig8, i opted to not using clutch (i think 4-1 cylender is very smooth vs 2cylender engine, BuT at times i grab it as i hear the rpm goes down. But not try yet modulating throttle and rear brake. Thank you. What would be the recommended RPM and recommended speed if you would? My bike is CB650R and this is my first bike ever. Very new in riding
It's hard to say which rpm and speed will be right for you because every bike is a little different. You want to try to stay in the "powerband" of your motorcycle as much as possible. In Gymkhana, this is done by proper throttle and brake technique, adjusting the "idle rate" and adjusting the gearing of the motorbike. I will be making videos of these topics soon. Stay tuned :)
Great
How to use (or not use) the clutch is one of the biggest questions I get asked about. No clutch is needed :)
Ehy, i'm starting to do some moto gymkhana, i have a '07 zx10r, i'm trying to not use the clutch, but in 1st gear with only the idle, no throttle aplied the bike goes 12-13mph, wich is way too much, the bike have veeeery long gears, i'm thinking about using a bigger rear sprocket, adding 3-4 teeths, would that be a good idea or is alredy fine and i've just to learn better?
Loving your videos btw, been looking for this type of content! Thanks!
Hello and thanks for the question. It's difficult to answer that question because as your skills improve, your preference on gearing and how the bike delivers power will change. 12-13 mph might be too fast for you now, but later on when you are more comfortable with the techniques and you are able to lean further and carry more speed through tight turns, you might end up wanting the bike to go that fast. Going down 1 tooth in the front sprocket or going up a few teeth on the rear might help for now and you might decide later on to change it back when you improve. That is a valid strategy. Also, you might have to be a little firmer when using the rear brake when shaving off speed relative to the pressure I use on my little Ninja 300. Just make sure you are not being too aggressive or you will overheat the brake fluid. I haven't made a video on front brake yet, but I will very soon. The front brake in combination with the rear is also important but they are both used differently and at different times. That video is going to help you with this also. Thanks for watching the videos and I am glad they have been helpful :)
@@LexcoMotoGymkhanaThanks for your quick and precise answer! Maybe i'll consider going for a couple of tooth more on the rear sprocket, i'm a begginer, just got today my first set of cones so i'll start tomorrow to pratice a figure 8 (an advice on the distance between the two cones?)
I'm also going to buy an ABM conversion kit to have a higher handlebar.
Looking forward for the video on the front brakes! i'm kinda scared to use it right now on low speed, i got 10 years of experiences on the road, but absolutely zero on low speed skills!
Keep up the great work, so far you're the first i've find that explain in a clear way the idea behind gymkhana!
(i hope that nothing sounds silly since english is not my first language)
Are slipper clutches preferred? What is the ideal bike for competition in this sport? Ninja 300?
Slipper clutches are not necessary. You don’t really even change gears very much during a Gymkhana course.
As far as the ideal bike...that’s going to be personal preference. I don’t consider my Ninja 300 ideal but it works. If I had the money to buy something new, I would choose something that’s relatively light weight with quick handling and good torque. Maybe a Kawasaki Z650, KTM Duke 390 or a Yamaha MT-07. But again, that’s my preference :)
I also notice that they have a larger sprocket on the back. The pros accelerate very fast.
Once you want to start getting competitive, there are a few modifications that are necessary. I think the most important modification for Gymkhana is gearing.
Ive seen a few Kawi ZRX's. I own a 1200. Tons of low end torque and perfect fueling.
Can you recommend a timer?
Sorry but I don’t know anything about timers. I don’t really use a timer when I practice.
I'm a new rider and I find these techniques very intriguing. The only bike I own now is an Indian Springfield, lol, I know it's waaaaaay too big for these techniques in competition but I'll be getting a smaller bike soon (like a Triumph Speed Twin) and I practice slow-speed maneuvers a lot on my Indian. My question is, without using the friction zone what speed are you going while turning and approx. what rpm? When I do weaves and 8's, I'm doing about 5 - 6 mph and I always use the "flip flop" motion along with rear brake. Your vids are much appreciated and I wish you much success; thanks for your efforts
Thanks for the comment, Fred. I can't really say what the speed and RPM's are for any given turn are because it really does depend on the exact line you are taking. My advice would be to just pay attention to what the bike's engine feels like. Give it enough rev's to keep it happy and not lug the engine. If you're rpm's are dropping too low, it might be because you need to take a slightly wider line, lean the bike further and carry a little more speed at the beginning. Also, maybe get on the throttle a little sooner and only give it maintenance throttle and use a little more rear brake if you need to slow more. If that doesn't work, you might need to use a little bit of clutch. Moto Gymkhana requires a lot of knowledge and understanding of the techniques and how your bike responds. There is a definite aspect of problem solving and self mastery that takes a while to develop but if you stick with it, you will figure it all out on your bike. I hope this comment helps a little :)
Thanks Alex, that makes perfect sense. I just finished watching several vids by a Japanese instructor teaching the same types of skills and even though it was in Japanese, it was perfectly clear, in his demonstration, the rhythm he used the throttle & rear brake and the timing of using the rear brake just before the "flip flop" going into the turn (regardless of the type of turn) and throttle coming out. Your vids are great Alex, I'm going to work my way through them all.
Thanks, Fred. I appreciate the support and I'm glad the videos are to your liking. Let me know if you have any other questions :)
@@ftelarico Hello, I don't know if you will read my message but would it be possible to have the video of the Japanese instructor even if it's been 2 years? Thank you.
how about set the rpm high like 1700?
Yes. Riding without clutch is easier when you have the right idle rate and gearing. I keep the idle rate a little higher on my Ninja 300: between 2000 and 2400 rpm. On my BMW, I cannot adjust the idle rate so I have to use a little clutch on full rotation turns.
And how many fingers do we use on clutch?
That is personal preference. I like to use 2 fingers. It also depends on how heavy your clutch is. If it is a light pull, 1 or 2 fingers is fine but if it’s a heavy clutch, then I would use 3-4 fingers.
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana Thanks
Don't they use recluse clutches
Good question. Im not sure if there are riders that use those types of clutches. But I do know that most don’t. I never installed one but use clutch-less style. It’s a matter of getting a good overlap technique down and adjusting the idle rate and gearing ratio. On some stock bikes, like Honda Groms, you can go clutch-less just fine.