Air Force C-17 Crashes Just After Takeoff in Alaska | Dangerous Aerobatics (With Real Video)
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2021
- Find out why a C-17 Globemaster III transport plane of the United States Air Force crashed at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska while practicing for a flight display.
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My dad was on that plane. They found his body in the woods, as if he had been launched out of the plane as it crashed. He was later cremated.
I was only eleven years old when he died, and I remember that traumatic event like it was yesterday. My mom had me and my two younger brothers stay at our uncle's house for the night. We didn't know what was going on with her, but the very next morning, we got home and she told us what had happened. Jeff and I were devastated, but I don't remember how Alex reacted. He was only three years old at the time, so I'm assuming he didn't quite understand the nature of the situation at the time. Even today, his few memories of our dad are extremely fuzzy compared to my own.
It's been twelve years, and I still miss him. I'm doing better now than when I was younger, but even today, as I'm experiencing and learning new things, sometimes I wish he were still here. There's so much I want to show him, but that's impossible now. Rest in peace, Dad.
lamento mucho por lo sucedido a tu papá de seguro el está viendo todos tus logros de tu vida desde otro lugar. Un abrazo desde Chile 🇨🇱❤️🌹💪
I am very sorry for your loss.I hope your family is doing better.
@@chris24j48 We are doing better. Thanks for checking in.
My condolences to you and your family. Trauma at a young age seems to burn itself into the mind.
These specialized aircraft can do amazing things, but they have known flight parameters that demand respect.
@@caneladiaz111 indeed best wishes jake. Keep on being a hero as your da is. RIP sir
if i am on an airplane and i start to hear that somber piano music, imma jumping out asap
LOL hopefully with a parachute
The first song played in the video? What’s the name though?
@@BenderPY Sea of Clouds by Caleb Etheridge
I just saw this video get a like lol.. didn’t know it rendered unless you restart yt
Then you find out it was just another video somebody on board was watching.
Thank you TheFlightChannel for making this video. I am the widow of the loadmaster of this crew. 5 months after the mishap the USAF presented the information as to why the mishap occurred but I was not in an emotional position to be able to watch or understand. It is strange to be able to watch the last moments of my husband's life over and over.....
I’m incredibly sorry for your loss.
May he rest in peace.
Please accept my sincere condolences. May your husband’s memory be for a blessing.
I was back shop at JB Charleston then & we had a base commander's call about the mishap. Even now, watching this I can remember the horror of that assembly. I am sorry for your loss, I hope the AF stood by you in your time of need.
I’m so sorry for your loss… may these rest in peace beautifully. 😞
When I first started flying 40 years ago I remember my instructed telling that there are two things you do not want to run out of: speed and altitude. If you have at least one of those then you have a chance. If you have neither, you are dead.
This pilot was in deficit with both. Basic principles. He should have known better.
Even if you have altitude, stalling on spin-prone planes can become irrecoverable all the way down.
But if you have no altitude or speed, that means your plane is just sitting on the ground, not moving.
@@firesonic1010 No, it means you have crashed or are about to crash , as the OP correctly said.
@@firesonic1010 That is the best way to avoid crashes like this one. Never use speed or altitude.
He should have been grounded.
The video in real time shows how quickly it went wrong.
news now uk....Yes, I was amazed/stunned at watching the real video whereas this simulation was a lot longer. The actual flight was about 60 seconds from lift off to crash. My gut feeling is that the pilot and even co-pilot just got too complacent with "just another demo flight" for the public. They had just done the exact routine just 30 minutes before. Yea, I think just too cocky and too complacent.
The video in real time shows how expert pilots must be to keep their aircraft within well-established safe flight parameters. It isn't really that much different from driving between the lines on a roadway while keeping an eye on traffic conditions etc.
It is surprising that this pilot's disturbing lack of expertise and mental/emotional fitness didn't manifest itself any number of times in the presence of other pilots and crew members like it did with that B52 pilot who crashed his aircraft at Fairchild Air Force Base on June 24, 1994, killing all four crew members.
fighterjetsworld.com/air/the-story-of-the-rogue-b-52-pilot-who-crashed-his-bomber-after-manoeuvring-it-beyond-its-operational-limits-at-low-altitude/13850/
Another "airshow practice" gone wrong.
Yeah
Am I allowed to say they were just cocky jackasses? This flight up in the air was about the same time that Flight 255 lasted at Detroit to Phoenix. Pilot error again on Flight 255 this pilot error simply not checking flaps and slats. How simple tasks can be forgotten when they're done so often. In this case the pilots did not check flaps and slats.
I know that Flight 255 is shown on this channel, as well as the NTSB findings.
Four people were also killed on the ground as it slammed onto Middle Belt road which is a feeder road into Metro Airport.
My first cousin (Joann Downs) died on that flight flying back to Phoenix on that fateful August 16th.
But there was a miracle that day. All were killed except a 4 year girl named Cecelia Cichan. Her parents thought enough to buy an extra seat to put her heavy toddler chair on it, then strapped it into the plane seat. For some grace of God she was thrown from that fire still strapped into her airplane seat. Also blessed be the difficult first rescuers who heard a "moan" and then a "cry" and found her.
She was seriously injured with large area burns and a broken bone.
It all about airspeed and altitude...
As a veteran of 22 years, this one brought tears to my eyes to see these men die for senseless and 100% preventable reasons. I also did my pilot training in Spain and while aircraft can be "forgiving" of certain overstepping of boundaries, this was very sad and tragic and leaves me with a heavy heart.
I've only one thought on this crash (what a lie!) and that's at the end of the real footage that sadly wasn't complete, flashed up on the screen in large letters should have been GAME OVER.
My only logical thought is that they'd spent too much time in simulators as clearly none of them had much concept of reality.
So, what went wrong ?
1. They were low. 2. They were slow. 3. They were in a turn. Add those 3 together and you always get the answer crash & death. I note the video didn't report hours flown by the idiot pilot or the idiot co-pilot. No mention was made of the idiot(s) that game them a licence to fly.
I also blame Boeing - there were anti-stall systems mentioned - the computer should have locked out the pilot's controls and refused to give control back to them - other than offera limited menu of places to land.
My tears are for Sully. One of man's greatest achievements. What we can do when we get it nearly right.
On of our other greatest achievements was to rescue the 33? Chilean miners trapped underground for 22 days. A feat made possible by forward planning.
@@seltaeb9691 Air shows seem to be disaster shows - noting the pilot that killed was it 11 people on the road - London way ? He shouldn't be flying again.
Didn't Cheggers fly a chopper into some trees - and G-NOEL was written off too. SAD
@@millomweb Do you think they died intentionally? Or did they have a lack of REAL training that demonstrated the limits of the aircraft. We all fail at something, at sometime. It just doesn’t usually cost your life so you lived and hopefully learned.
Actually never saw it. Fades to black by whoever posted it
A lot to unpack here. For background, I'm a former F-14 pilot and 30 year airline pilot. 7 or 8 years ago, I flew with a First Officer that was on the accident investigation team that investigated this accident. He said the biggest contributing factor was the attitude of the pilot flying the routine. The PIC was a frustrated fighter pilot wanna-be, and was apparently very disappointed that he "only" got to fly C-17's. So in his mind, he was going to be the most "shit hot" C-17 pilot in the USAF, and wound up flying demos at air shows. As he would taxi out for take-off for practice or the air show, he would ask the other crew members, "Does everybody know what time it is?", and they would answer in unison, "It's SHOWTIME". His routine was supposed to have him lift off and rotate the a/c to about 30 degrees nose up and climb up to 1500 ft at a considerably faster airspeed than what they actually did. As the video stated, he over-rotated to 40 degrees in an attempt to look more impressive and that bled off so much airspeed that they never got close to reaching 1500 ft altitude. So now they're low and slow in their routine, which you might be able to get away with if you're in an airplane with an afterburner and a much higher thrust to weight ratio, (and an ejection seat if all else fails). The routine now has the co-pilot retract the flaps, and the third pilot in the cockpit is responsible for manipulating the throttles. He pulled the power back on the engines which is what the routine called for, only they're low and extremely slow, which no-one recognized. Once the PIC initiated his turn to the right, they were basically doomed. Their only chance was to immediately level the wings and go to max thrust and hope they could recover before impacting the ground. I'm guessing that the other two pilots were possibly intimidated by the aggressiveness and flamboyance of the PIC. Flying an airplane to it's max performance close to the ground in front of a crowd requires extreme professionalism and hitting all your target parameters (altitude, airspeed, power setting, flap configuration, heading, g loading, etc) precisely. This crew was deficient in many areas, and unfortunately paid for it with their lives.
I thought they were going to stall right as they took off with that insane climb angle.
He was probably passed over for fighter-pilot EXACTLY for his "shit-hot" attitude... Fighter Pilots are required to have 100% focus 100% of their time in the air. That means being able to check the attitude, arrogance, and ego at the damn GATE. It shouldn't even make it to the door...
I don't fly stunt craft. The most impressive piece I've taken off the ground was a glorified "flying go-cart"... Had an EJ-22 engine, though (lucky me)...
BUT I DO ride motorcycles. AND I see a lot of the same personalities among the sporty and stunter guys. The "shit-hot" types are always blaming the bikes, the set-up, the track conditions, mechanics, etc... It's ALWAYS got to be some BS about cables out of adjustment, too much grease, not enough grease, torques out of spec', running to lean, running too rich, cold tires, hot tires, worn tires, tires not scrubbed in... OR the track's dirty here, wet there, Someone doesn't know BEANS about a launch ramp... Can't use a tape measure to set the landing ramp...
The guys who are SERIOUS aren't scared to hit the brakes half-way up the ramp, even though it means dumping the bike off the end and possibly taking a rough landing... They just KNOW "it's not right" before they've left the ground and it's better to sprain an ankle or break a leg or arm than to take the launch flat-out and end up with an 18 month coma and God only knows what all else after the shrapnel's cleared... They're not afraid to shrug it off and just say, "I f***ed up." and "Reset"... I need a few more dry runs...
Same goes with racers. I knew a guy who'd hit the track hot, hard, and heavy... He'd practice for certain notorious turns until he'd washed out AND high-sided at least 3 times each... AND somehow, once the racing started, he was nearly impossible to get out of line enough to crash or run off... He'd work to know EVERY suitable line through every curve and corner on the track, not just the tightest or optimal for speed, he knew EVERY SINGLE LINE that could be made there... He never considered himself "all that great" though he could and DID win regularly. His attitude when he won was simply "It was a good day"... and that's it.
On the streets, the "shit-hot" riders don't slow down to realize what they're even trying to do. They've barely got the time in to get a bike through a few basic cone-drills in the parking lot, and head straight out to "The Dragon's Tale" or some similar road around here only to YEET themselves and their bikes off the sides of mountains, flip them upside down as they bounce through ditches and slide up the slopes, wash out when the road suddenly turns to gravel, and launch through trees and bushes into rock outcroppings or someone's car parked on the shoulder while they've gone foraging for anything from ginseng to mushrooms for the day...
I'd imagine, exciting things like motorcycles and jet planes are similar in that they both attract similar cross-sections of society. I'd be a liar if I didn't admit we're all JUST A LITTLE BIT self destructive, or we wouldn't be attracted to them in the first place, but there's just nothing good to come of making ANY of it any more dangerous than it has to be...
In this guy's case (speaking of the PIC) I have to wonder, "The book says climb to 1500... He didn't get to 900... Can't he EVEN COUNT???" I know that plane had an altimeter. This WAS supposed to be a demonstration TEST sortie. I remember in the Navy, as soon as you did a single thing out of spec' an instructor would call a HALT to the whole task. Whatever test or inspection or thing you were getting graded on was "failed" and you'd reset to start ALL OVER... Even from my "flying go-cart" I could tell when I wasn't much more than half-way as high as I wanted to be... 1000 isn't terribly hard to tell, but you HAVE to know you haven't made 1500... It's a glance at the glass ffs... ;o)
> The PIC was a frustrated fighter pilot wanna-be
This ran thru my mind first thing given it was a military aircraft. Of course it's far from the only possible cause of irresponsible flight decisions, but I know what gods fighter jocks are encouraged to think of themselves as.
I read about a B-52 pilot that though he was hot chit and crashed.
I have zero sympathy.
Was stationed there from '98 to '03. Before they cut all the trees down on the line, it was the most beautiful flightline I'd ever seen. In the winter with a heavy snowfall and the darkness...nothing else like it. Very glad I was able to experience that!
I know guys that were on the launch crew that day. The guy that signed off the forms just before the flight relieved himself of his duties due to a mental breakdown afterward. One of my friends goes through the emotions of this crash on the anniversary every year as he was one of the last people to see the crew before they left. As aircraft mechanics, we put a lot of emotion into our job because we know what is at stake if we don't, and when things like this happen it hits everyone pretty hard.
Hold your heads high mechanics, there is nothing you can do to adjust the ego of stupid dangerous pilots
I lost the C-130H I was an assistant Crew Chief on, 74-1681 Aug 9 ,1989. I was at Pope AFB when it crashed at the Sicily drop zone at Ft. Bragg. Didn't want to crew after that.
@@retiredcop158 Sorry, brother
@@saucerset12 our load master Tsgt Charles "Red" Alfred was killed.
I hear youl
God bless you, and thank you for your diligent service!
As a former E-5 tech on the KC-135 flight simulator, I spent almost 4 years observing crews going through training in the flight simulator. I was always impressed with the professionalism and skills that most crews demonstrated when flying simulated "missions". However, I did see some pilots push the limits of the aircraft, sometimes resulting in a simulated crash. Instead of owning up to their mistake, they'd blame the simulator. I took a great deal of pride in the performance of the simulator and had to bite my lip whenever they would deny their incompetence and blame the simulator.
This flight crew was murdered via nueral weapons. Amplifies mood, behaviors, etc.
@@nickkaning7616 tell me more...
@@nickkaning7616 Yes, tell us more please.
@SkyCop Wife retired Out of tech school (Chanute AFB) I was assigned to Loring AFB in northern Maine from '76 to '80. Loring is gone now but it was a huge SAC base with nine B-52 bombers loaded with nukes. Loring had the largest stockpiles of nukes in the US. Of course, there were plenty of KC-135's to provide air refueling should the need arise. I only did one four year tour (plus a six month extension) and moved back to California. My wife and I made great friends at Loring. Looking back, it was a great time in our lives. Both of our sons were born while stationed at Loring.
@@nickkaning7616 dont invite us to the party just to be a no-show, boss.
You got something to say, say it.
I'm sad to say that "over confidence" played a huge role in this tragedy. Yes, the C-17 can do many amazing things. But, we can't forget that we're still talking about over 140 tons of airplane that can't just be dipped, and turned and hard rolled like a balsa wood plane.
Not at that altitude at least
Overconfidence can be a killer! You would think that B-52 that was crashed by an overconfident pilot nearly 30 years ago flying it like it was a fighter jet would have sent a long lasting clear message to all pilots but unfortunately this pilot of the C-17 either never heard of that crash or forgot it.
@@phayzyre1052 ...or just ignored it, trying to be another 'Tom Cruise'
@@None-zc5vg Probably. Like the old saying goes “those who don’t learn the lessons from history are condemned to repeat the same mistakes in the future!“
@@None-zc5vg The power of myth.
I was a US Navy jet pilot and flight instructor many years ago, 1966-1970, and 99% of my time was in single piloted small A/C. All were highly maneuverable aerobatic capable. I am constantly amazed in these accident analysis presentations of the non-input of copilots and engineers concerning vital information of airspeed, angle of attack and altitude. A single pilot must keep all those criteria in mind at all times. Multi piloted A/C crew must get too complacent thinking they are safe, especially when executing seldom performed activities.
"The co-pilot and safety observer did not realize the dangerous developing situation." Tell me again, the purpose of those two extra bodies on board.
The "safety observer" wasn't observing and wasn't safe either...so sad.
@@jsprite123 He was a safety observer, not a unsafety observer.
There is no way he could have seen this comming.
Very sad..
The co-pilot isn't an extra. The safety officer I can't understand in terms of his inattentiveness in observing the manuever.
"Watch your bank! Watch your bank! Watch your bank!"
Doesn't sound to me like he was inattentive, and didn't see something bad coming.
@@markl2322 True except he should have caught the low airspeed that was before the bank and the fact there was no callouts by the crew.
Pilot seemed to forget that cancelling the manoeuvre is always an option.
Twas showing off to the crowd.
I don’t think he was doing the maneuver at all nothing seemed to be followed
@@onekerri1 There was no crowd, it was a practice run. Showing off the his buddies probably.
Saddens me, deeply.
Poor bastards all.
Damn near a tail strike
the pace at which the sequence of events happened was really much faster than i expected. With the way the video goes into detail about every single step i Didnt realise how fast it actually was until the video recording at the end
Coming home from work in Anchorage in the hillside area, I was looking right at them in flight, although they were a fair way off so I didn't know this about to happen. I thought they had just gone out of sight ... until I saw the explosion ... I just went numb ... heartbreaking. My wife and I went to the airshow on Saturday and we were the first to place flowers at the memorial the AF had set up there near the flight line ...
>Roberta
>my wife
Lmao what
What a tragic memory for you, and how good of you and your wife to take the time to place flowers near the memorial. How astonished the four crew members must have felt at the moment they knew they would all die. I wonder how traumatized some members of the audience ended up.
As the wife of the Loadmaster I have been diagnosed with PTSD because the crew's death was so unnecessary and so public. I still cannot recover. @@nancysherburne7445
As a USAF veteran who was at Elmondorf AFB in the early 1980’s, may God bless their souls and families. 🙏🙏
I was stationed on "The Rock" (Shemya) in Sep 1969 - Sep 1970 and I can't say enough good things about the guys who flew out from Elmendorf twice a week to us. They brought the incoming mail and any new dudes starting their 1 year tour. The weather often was absolutely horrendous and these guys would attempt four or five landings before calling it quits and returning to Elmendorf. I think in all my time there, there were only one or two times they couldn't get those badass C-141's landed. These guys were awesome. To the crew that lost their lives, RIP.
@J Jones, I absolutely detest grammar freaks who think that they have a God given right to correct other people's grammar. Stay off RUclips and go get a job.
To think these goons were trained pilots
@@mattrowan2680 Beautiful post, thank you.
@J Jones - pathetic troll.
Sometimes you just wonder: what the hell was that man thinking?
Also, what was the co-pilot and the safety officer thinking?
@@channelsixtysix066
Well the point of no return didn't take very long.
"I'm so good. I am the greatest pilot in the world. Look at meeeee. Oh Shit!" That's what he was thinking
@@Charon58
Perhaps, but in doing so physics still never changes. One must wonder if he ever got into a dire flying situation to cool his own playful jets.
@@larrybe2900 No, it didn't. All happening at airspeeds and attitude out of the plane's safety envelope and at an unrecoverable altitude. From start to finish, that flight was one error after the next.
Some aircrafts are "forgiving", in the sense that they have several boundaries you must not cross, but if you accidentally cross one, you won't die
Cross them all and you're going to complete the boom boom on the ground challenge real soon
Nice point. The tolerances seemed tight and the crew was below or on the edge the whole time
The swiss cheese affect. Meaning a little swiss cheese is fine until the holes line up.
The terrifying moment between the the sky and the ground where you know you're not pulling out of it. Tragic.:(
The loadmaster was killed by his three brothers in arms who lost sight of their training, mission, and common sense.
It seems CRM doesn't apply to military pilots.
@@jhargrove1108 what does crm stand for
@@devin5531 Crew Resource Management
@@devin5531 Crew Resource Management. After many crashes the FAA decided that the PIC being a god had to come to an end. They trained the pilots to rely on their crew members for help, especially in emergencies. This is an accepted practice in all major airlines, but not in the military it seems.
I would disagree with the idea that CRM doesn’t apply to military pilots. I’m a retired loadmaster, and it really only applies to individual persons on how they treat/respond to other crew members. Also, there are other details about this crash that aren’t available to the public that explain some of the causal factors of this mishap.
I admire your dedication when it comes to presenting this fatal accidents in a very respectful way.
Well said
'Real video' stamped on a thumbnail of a fake crashing plane, is far from respectful. It's exploiting (another) crash for views, much like the 'what really happened' video(based on poor assumptions) immediately after the Pakistan plane crash - the video was unsurprisingly not what really happened.
???
Respectful is also not playing the video of the "fireball" which they didn't. The video was "Respectful" in my opinion and is appreciated. USAF Ret. E7.
I see nothing wrong with presenting the reality of such events for historical, documentary, and cautionary purposes. The crash and consequences ought to be shown. We are adults.
These videos are done well. I'm a Marine Veteran and currently serving in the Florida Army National Gaurd. Thank you for respectfully making these videos! Very well done.
Gee, the"saftey officer" did a fine job that day, imagine what vould have happened without him!
As a retired Airforce veteran my heart goes out to the families of the victims of this tragic crash. I'm deeply saddened that this happened and could have easily been avoided. May the crew of C-17 SN# 00-0173 rest in peace.
Keep in mind, the aircraft commander was not a Victim, he was the Terminator, literally.
The 'Bud Holland' syndrome: carrying out violent manoeuvres at the stall boundary.
Not 'victims' - morons !!!
The C-17 is as forgiving to fly as a C-130, meaning you have to really really screw up to crash one.
I wonder if he had ever been reported in the past for "aggressive" flying? Or as us non military people call it, Stupid flying :)
They were in trouble when they began that (first) left turn without building up sufficient airspeed and lift...when they began the right 280 degree turn they were already in a hole and just were digging it deeper. The C-17 uses lift-spoilers to initiate the bank...every time they initiated a turn they were killing lift and bleeding off airspeed. After that aggressive pitch-up on rotation they should have allowed themselves a straight and (relatively) level segment to regain airspeed, but the pilot whipped it into that left hand turn right at the top of the climb. Then they should have/could have allowed the airspeed to recover on the cross-wind leg, but they threw it into the sweeping right turn early. The over-bank and retraction of the slats only sealed the deal, but they were going to stall either way. Speed=energy, energy=life.
It seems like those people didn't understand how airplanes fly. I would have been screaming my head off just by going by gut feel.
Great explanation.
And adding rudder to the bank sealed their fate!
@dražen g It has all kinds of fail safe warnings, but the pilots ignored all of them!
@dražen g You mean to physically stop him? That's not possible for now.
The Globemaster is such a gorgeous airplane. Where I’m from in Charleston,SC this was the home base to many C-17s before Boeing moved in. Living just 6 miles from the base, it’s not abnormal to see them climbing at close to 40d nose up or banking close to 60d. And when you see this first hand, it’s amazing to such a large aircraft in those AOAs. What a modern marvel of cargo aviation and prayers to the families who lost loved ones 🙏🏼
This pilot effectively committed suicide, and killed his colleagues, by ignoring all his training and the aircraft limitations. Massive pilot error, unforgivable
Cockiness will ALWAYS get you in trouble, whether you're on wheels or wings.
Similar to what the pilot did while flying a B-52. Looked like he was attempting a barrel-roll at minimum altitude and speed.
She nosed right into the ground. RIP crew.
It was the copilot who retracted the slats early (188 vs 193), while entering a tight turn.
@@briant7265 That's why I flew single pilot ground attack, you can't trust others with your life. I would rather make my own screw ups thank you.
Showboating, same a the clown who was flying this B52 ruclips.net/video/7-S_NM--evM/видео.html
10:41
"Ay bro watch your bank"
" watch your bank bro!"
"WATCH YOUR BANK!!"
AYO THAT GROUND GETTIN’ CLOSER
ay bro watch yo jet
I am! But theres still no money there!
@@thedocnak NOT YO BANK ACCOUNT! BANK ANG-*crash*
This was a sad day for the USAF, specifically the C-17 community. RIP to that aircrew. And praying that the families are being taken of.
Thanks for your service bro
I remember this flight. I just got back to the states during my leave from Germany (RMS), and as you know it is difficult, even as a CAT-III to fly during the summer months. I almost took a flight to Elmendorf AFB, just to get back to the states, and then try to hitch a ride down to the lower 48. Plenty of seat available to Alaska, but did not take it, got lucky and took a flight to McGuire instead. I hit many people hard because we lost good military people.
Thank you for your service, friend. 5 years as a H-53E Super Stallion crew chief, I know how close crews can be. The same as family, and even more so! It's always sad to here of these tragedies. 'Godspeed' to that crew.
I can imagine everyone was hit hard by that. Very sad. What I can't understand is how otherwise solid, reliable people like that crew, can make a series of errors like that. It seems so unbelievable.
@@channelsixtysix066 Yeah...but bad things happen to good people every day! Life really is a lottery.
This just re-confirms what we all know about "old, bold" pilots.
They do not exist..
@@aldenunion I'm 75 so I guess it depends on what you consider old.
@@ramtek2702 or bold
The AC thought he was smarter than the flight control computer.
"Not so tight brother" calm final words of a fallen soldier.
That plane was so beautiful and graceful in flight. Thank you Flight Channel for featuring this story even though it's ending was heartbreaking and tragic. Rest in peace to those that were lost that day.
Say Rest in Peace to those lost, first. Then write about the aesthetics of the damn plane. Decency, madame. Good afternoon.
@@burtlangoustine1 I stand by what I said. Don't tell me what to say or how.
A beautiful, respectful and factual presentation of this tragic accident. Thank you for the wonderful work you do in sharing aircraft accidents and incidents in a most objective and factual manner. Fantastic job.
Wow. Totally avoidable. Reminds me of the 1994 B-52 crash at Fairchild AFB in which the pilot operated the aircraft beyond it's limits.
Same.
yep,,,,i saw the whole video of that one,,,that guy was really pushing that plane
I just found this channel & I am extremely impressed! It is explained in ways anyone can understand, providing information what it should be & what actually happened. This was an easy follow! Thank You!
I feel sorry for the Loadmaster, he was alone in the back while those three other jackasses killed him
First thing I thought of too.
May be a dumb question but, Why would they need a Loadmaster on that demonstration flight if there is no cargo aboard. I would think for safety that they wouldn't do a public AIRSHOW with cargo on board.
@@patrickmollohan3082 The Loadmast is part of the standard aircrew configurations for that aircraft. He stands long wire during engine start, configures the rear/cargo compartment for the mission they are on and during flight is the eyes in the rear for the pilot in command.
There is only a 3 man crew which includes a loadmaster on C-17.
Isn't "jackass" a bit harsh? I mean, to the
real donkeys here. I also, feel sorry for the loadmaster.
The DIP$#!+s driving? Did the safety officer know
the flight specs for the C-17? 60 degree coordinated
bank is 2 Gs. 80 degrees is 5.7 Gs. They hit 82
degrees. That is 6 Gs. I'm surprised the wings
didn't fold up. (Well, not really. Douglas Aircraft
built good aircraft!)
steve
Well done flightchannel. Your videos teach all of our future pilots to not commit these mistakes.
We can only hope. They're far less frequent, but today's Planes are so Over Programmed, that the slightest error in judgment could be disastrous.
Carmine's RC Yes. We can hope
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 'Slightest error in judgment'? They repeatedly disregarded warnings and intentionally flew the aircraft outside it's KNOWN parameters.
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks or poorly programed like the 737Max. They ought to bring Sullenberger back and have him lead a board that raises the bar for safety.
Exactly!, the videos Flight Channel makes have an outstanding amount of knowledge not only to aeronautic enthusiasts but to current pilots, copilots and students. I love this channel been following for years...Flight Channel and XPilot are my favs although XPilot disappeared has not uploaded for months.
Very professional , tasteful and respectful to those who lost their lives. My heart goes out to those lost and those who are left behind remembering.
I've never seen an incident report with this many pilot errors all in a matter of a few minutes. Was the pilot sniffing glue or what?
RIP guys.
.....or conscious suicide attempt........ what other explanation is there?....too many issues in a short period of time....all ignored.
The pilot was a renown risk-taker. There's another video here that looks more closely at his persona.
@@tuomoniemela8868 if you find the video can you share the link
Complacency and complete disregard for procedure creeps in to certain personality types in all lines of work. Obviously piloting should not be one of them. I dont fly but they sure seem to try to keep ego and attitude off the flight deck. Some egos and attitudes take these measures as a challenge i guess. Just tragic. So much lost because of one mans ego.
Less the Loadmaster, it seems the three stooges were flying the plane.
The graphics of these videos are actually incredible and outstanding. These are the best graphics I have ever seen. Good job TheFlightChannel! Another amazing video!!
I know Xp11 msfs2020 msfs X and others are soooooo good graphics ever.
This is msfs2020
Since the rest of these guys are v busy.. It's a recording of a flight simulator computer game, made by microsoft.. played by the people making the video.. still cool graphics though
@@tekanova7480 no it is MfsX
I would much rather have actual video than this imaginary graphic show.
I am so sorry for the loss of this aircrew and aircraft. In all aircraft, life or death is just seconds away. Remember always, aviate, and then navigate. Be aware of the future seconds. To all pilots out there, remember: Your first job is to land the airplane safely. Peace! Love! Charity!
Correct
To add on to that aviate, navigate, then communicate. I agree with what you said
@@cakeadventure8412 don't forget to appreciate
Good message...
You mean the man responsible for mishandling this aircraft, which was in pristine condition, into the ground?
I will never understand how this can happen when you have a copilot and safety engineer on board. Even the PIC ignored the warnings, with all apparently acting like passengers on a sight seeing tour. Every possible emotion is evoked when something like this happens. The most impactful is the unbelievable sadness for families, friends etc. of those who so unnecessarily perished. Saddled with a lifetime of what if’s is a horrible burden. May these men Rest In Peace and our prayers and God be with the surviving victims of this crash. I am so sorry for your loss.
I served with the Loadmaster in the Summer 2003 for operation Enduring Freedom at an "unspecified base"...he was a good man as he could have been flying a desk that day, but chose to help another serviceman to have that day away to take care of business. Last time I saw him alive was July 2008 as he remembered me and it was good to see him as I'll never forget him.
Thank you for your kind words about my beloved Tom. He had a great time in 2003.
Moral of the story...Speed is life...if you get a stall warning in a bank, immediately get the hell out of the bank. Unforgivable pilot error (a Ph.D. Aerospace Engineer who works for a large American defense contractor's Aero company.
I will never forget this day. Standing on Red ramp, watching the plane bank and dip below the tree line. The shock wave of something so massive ripping through the trees. Echoing off buildings.
Never in my life do I want to experience that again. Fly high airmen.
Wow!! You was stationed there or off post? That most had been shocking! Only a real witness could describe it as you did! That's for sure!
I'm so sorry.
Some experiences can never be unseen/unheard. We have to remember that for the victims they are long over.
That's how I deal anyway. It's the only thing that seems to help.
😥❤
My husband witnessed a crash when he was an airman and still remembers it to this day because he was so close to the aircraft when it crashed he could see the pilots. It's so shocking to see that. I saw one when I was in but the plane was far away. I feel for the families of the crew who.had to see this. I'm sure the pilot didn't get in the seat thinking hey, I'm crashing today.
@@melaniecarver5719 No, but the training should have prevented this. The pilot was a professional was he not ?
@@tabithadebolt1708 The pilot was a known hotdog and his command should have not let him fly. Now his family has to live with the consequences of his arrogance. Unfortunately, he took others with him. I don't know if it can be said his training failed but it can sure be said that his command failed.
This was eerily similar to the B-52 crash at Fairchild AFB in 1994, which also occurred while practicing for an air show.
TFC; as always, your graphics are spot on. More importantly is the dignity with how you portray each and every aircraft incident. Such a tragedy. RIP to our Brothers In Arms.
It is shocking to me when seeing the actual footage just how fast everything went. Great job TFC!!!
should have stopped that manoeuvre at rotate nose to high start of problems i thought.
Yeah the vid is a great illustration of how much the act of flying is more than meets the eye. Most of the vid is a run through of everything involved in the whole event. Roughly 11 minutes of video. And even then it seems meaty, like a lot is involved in a compressed amount of time. Then it shows the actual vid of the actual event in its entirety - and it all actually takes place in just a minute. Illustrates how truly compressed so much detail is in time, how little room there can be for mistakes.
Also its always spooky to see that moment of transition of when the vehicle switches from seeming to be moving under its own thrust/lift/control to moving merely by the whim of momentum and gravity w/all ability to affect things by the pilot lost. I'm no expert but 11:51 to 11:53 are the moments my muscles clenched in fear of having lost hope of recovery, though of course from the title/description I knew what was coming. I wonder what time stamp an experienced pilot would say was the point recovery was improbable, and at what time stamp it had become impossible. Though I guess we know that just from physics being applied to instrumentation data, but its interesting to hear what a pilot's instincts just from watching would tell them.
Mad respect to pilots who handle all this in real time and safely.
@@SmegInThePants It faded out before the crash
What's TFC
@@NumberousJEDI The flight channel
My father is in Indian Air Force. This heavier globemaster often comes on routine transport sortie to the small town I live in. It's a nightmare to even think of this one going down due to stall.
Jai hind hat's off to your father 💪💪
This one crashed because it was handled recklessly during practice for an air display. For one to crash doing a normal landing is extremely unlikely.
Jai hind
@@vip5108 why do Indians always say jai hind and what does it mean? I’m curious to know as I’m learning just a bit of the language to impress my Indian friend.
@@nazbmn242 jai hind is salutation, it means "Victory to india", "long live India".
I was stationed at Elmendorf when this happened. I found your video very accurate to the report we got after the investigation was complete. I'm a fuel guy which is the first thing that gets blamed for A/c crashes I had to go the sight and try to find any and all liquids to be tested. Tragic day.
@@Johnny-ql2vd No He's the gasser
@@Johnny-ql2vd No he drinks fuel
I'm still amazed that a channel successful as this can exist on RUclips that makes people read text on the screen. The luckiest content creator on the platform.
One moment everything is fine, you are worrying about the event tomorrow, feeling excited...
and in the next few minutes, there is no sign of you anymore...
i can’t imagine the fear and horror in the cockpit during any crash 😓
Exactly! One minute you're here and the next you're gone. Which is why the following is so important...
The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! And delight/happiness is our highest desire.
Men have killed to have it. Kings have gone mad trying to find it. Wars have served it. Affairs have worshiped it. We all seek it.
Sadly, billions have died without discovering its secret... namely, that joy is not an it, but a He.
The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him.
God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. He is the only being in the universe for whom self-exaltation is the highest virtue.
Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion.
Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world...
Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE!
We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ.
Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming!!!
😊... thanks for taking the time to read my comment.
I pray the Lord bless you with all things necessary for life and goodness.
God Bless
@@janepatton8100 Beautifully written and you are exactly right.
I have had other experiences throughout my adult life. The first time I noticed it was when the tire rolled off my front bicycle rim in a 35 mph downhill turn. I clearly remember that moment in time: I was nearly flat on my side in the air, thinking "uh-oh" and that in a moment I would be hurtin' for certain. In that moment I felt fantastic! I saw the distant mountains, the blue sky, and I didn't hurt anywhere! The next thing I remember is sliding headfirst down the road. Somehow I had rolled over (the back of my shirt and right sleeve were missing) and was sliding with my right arm tucked under my torso. No pain yet, just a sense of urgency: I tried to start rolling and get off my arm but it was not to be. Another missing few seconds and I was crawling around on the road like a bug. But ever since then, when something was going very wrong I had a sense of calm, the way I feel when trying to decide what to do about whatever crisis is in front of me.
@@janepatton8100 a very beautiful comment. My mind always wonders, though. Why must God be a man? And not a woman? Perhaps I’m opening a can of worms here and i mean no disrespect or insult. Regardless I wish you health and happiness!!
@@ocdpzildjian
God is a Spirit who stepped out of eternity into His own creation thru the man Christ Jesus, (as foretold in the Torah).
Christ was 100% man and 100% God. He made peace between God and man within Himself.
I served in the U.S. Air Force from Feb 1982 - Mar 2002, twenty years on Active Duty. During this entire career I was assigned to the Base Primary Disaster Response Force. Part of this responsibility was to assist with ALL Aircraft accidents. In my 20 years of service, I assisted with a total of 4 Aircraft crashes. These consisted of two F-16 crashes while stationed at Misawa Air Base Japan, a T-37 Crash while stationed at Holliman AFB New Mexico and my last crash was during Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm, where we lost a F-111 aircraft during a training mission at Taif Air Base Saudia Arabia. Two of these crashes were later determined to be Pilot error and two were caused by aircraft malfunction. All crews were lost except for the second F-16, where the Pilot was able to eject safely. Looking back, my career with the U.S. Air Force was very educational in many aspects.
Man, this really hits home. I retired in 2010 after working on C-130s and then the C-5. My unit was transitioning from the C-5 to the C-17 on my way out. This is very sad.
As a non-pilot I can only imagine the degree of reluctance to jump in and take over the controls when you feel that a pilot's maneuver is unsafe. At what point do you do that?
At the moment you feel it necessary. The problem is, especially in a strict rank structured organisation, the reluctance to 'question' a 'superior'
I know someone whose military career was tanked because he questioned the safety of the pilot, who also happened to be the squadron commander. His fitreps went from the best from his old CO to the worst after the change of command.
@@flyingpigskincare6918 that is so wrong and unfair.
"In memory of the Loadmaster who had absolutely NO hand in the flagrant disregard of regs that ultimately led to his demise and the destruction of a beautiful airplane--that happened to be piloted by maroons."
Maroons?
@@nighthawkindarkness Yeah, nice chocolate coated sweet coconut things.
@@DefinitelyAPotato I love those. 😇
@@DefinitelyAPotato I think you mean macaroons?
@@falcoperegrinus82 haha maybe ;)
Something you can get away with at 10k feet you can't at 2k feet. Situational awareness will save your life.
those videos are so wonderfully made and appear peaceful with music of hope, but carry a deadly message. Its co confusing but nice at the same time :)
Watching these videos has really opened my eyes to the complexity of flying! I have a whole newfound appreciation for the skills of pilots. It's unfortunate that sometimes poor judgement in the end cost so many lives.
Amazing that with that type of airmanship, the pilot didn't kill himself before.
he should have, he would have saved three other lives
As the investigators said: Misplaced motivation. The old airshow, "the show must go on" mind set.
This seemed like a carbon copy of the Bud Holland crash just 16 years later smh
@@NewscasterNews4 or the blue angels crash. It's all the same, pilots not following SOP. No reason for it.
@@JayandSarah Which Blue Angels crash do you speak of?
I heard the audio from the flight deck during a safety brief shortly after this took place. In the last second or two of the recording, there is a noise that I never want to hear again, and pray I never make.
Why and what was that??? If you don't want to say,no problem i am not forcing you....
@@thebaguettecompany terror
We're going to fucking die...
A joint scream of "NOOO!!!"
@@brianjob3018 sad.....
This channel is phenomenal. Graphics and explanations are so much better than hour long re-enactments.
He flew that plane like a fighter jet. My god how could none of the other officers on board tell him that he is way to aggressive
Such a shame and a completely avoidable accident, RIP to those who lost their lives
Hardly an accident.
Reminds me of the Hot Shot pilot of the B52 that by exceeding the bank at an air show a few years back. Fell like a brick with wings.
yes i saw that as a non flyer as soon as he banked left i thought yes not enough speed to much of a bank angle in pointed at the screen to where he was to crash it was one plane width out.
Yes. The B52 went down at Fairchild AFB outside Spokane WA. They were also training for a show. Pilot was experienced but a 'hot dog' and rule breaker & scared some of the younger crew members on previous flights so badly that some folks refused to fly with him. Tragic.
@@markg4459 he used too tight of a bank angle, which was far beyond what it was designed for. The plane stalled because of the loss of airspeed needed to stay aloft. That caused an aerodynamic stall which caused it to crash. Tragic loss of life because of the pilot.
sociopath pilot.
I thought of that as well.
That poor loadmaster down in his cargo area was probably wondering what the hell was going on up on the flight deck.
These men are people and didn't want this for themselves or their families. I'm proud of them.
Every time I forget to hit the like, I come back again to make sure it's done.
I hear ya
In healthcare they have the concept of "never events". This are mistakes that are preventable and should never be allowed to happen. Like a surgeon amputating the wrong leg. This is one of those.
From the time of takeoff till the time of the crash the pilot was under intense pressure to perform perfectly. Getting a 100,000+ lb plane to perform maneuvers like this take extreme skill and training and any slight mistake can snowball into what you just saw happen in a matter of seconds. At that altitude there is not enough time to regain airspeed and recover from a stall. In short, the ground was just too close to fuck up and the pilot fucked up. A doctor doesn't have 60 seconds to figure which limb needs to be amputated either. They aren't under the pressure of a fast paced high risk maneuver that could mean life or death for them.
@Peter Evans you have zero idea what you are talking about.
@Peter Evans what facts, even your sentence doesn't make sense. "The investigation precluded pilot error, stating that the pilot's overconfidence in executing an aggressive right-turn maneuver led to a low-altitude stall and subsequent crash, despite the warnings correctly provided by the aircraft's stall-warning system, to which neither the pilot nor any other crew member responded effectively", these are the facts.
@Peter Evans Oh, aviation crash investigators just put forward an opinion do they? They don't gather evidence, FDR, CVR, current and former C17 pilot and engineer statements, aircraft maintenance history, recreate the flight to the minutest of detail, run it through a C17 simulator? Lol, you're unhinged.
@Peter Evans what the hell are you talking about, the full crash report is located here, there are no conspiracies or opinions, just fact based outcomes:
commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_Alaska_USAF_C-17_crash_report.pdf
The Flight Channel is simply the best, I remember being rejected by the RAF, I was so heart beoken, all I ever wanted to do was be a fighter pilot, 2 years later 9/11 happened and the USAF welcomed me in with open arms, I am retired now, and just fly for the love of it but thanks to The US I was able to fulfill a dream the saddest part if this story is my own country, said I wasn't good enough to fight for them, It was my honor to fly with the men and women of the USAF, absolutely, positively, the best of the best in the world, I love you all, keep Fighting!!!!!
Watching this video, I kept saying aloud, "Dammit, follow the procedure to the inch! You're too low, too slow, you're gonna blow. You are not a fighter pilot and that ain't no f---ing fighter jet."
And to the producers at TheFlightChannel, these videos are the GOLD STANDARD in my humble estimation. Yes, live video is always best but for what you guys produce, live video is often not an option but this is as real as it gets and they are superbly done! I watch aviation videos pert near daily and I ALWAYS come back to TheFlightChannel for the grand finale, so to speak. Thank you so much for the very succinct commentary during the videos as well. It's great stuff and great learning materials for all pilots.
To me they're the silver standard due to lack of narration. Still good, but narration should be an option.
I grew up as a Air Force child. Born in Big Springs, Texas. My father retired in 1973. I cried. I will always love the Air Force. My son JASON W. FRYE IV was also in the Air Force. He died, because the VA gave him medication that made a strong, happy VERY NORMAL MAN, psychological meds for PAIN MANAGEMENT. I HAVE LOST THE 2 greatest men in my life. My father was 54, MI HEART FAILURE. MY SON MURDERED BY THE VA in the LOS Vegas area. Age 31. Left behind a PREGNANT wife and 2 sons, and myself.
So very sorry for your losses. I trust you will keep their memories alive for your grandchildren. 💔
The crash killed three Alaska Air National Guardsmen and one active-duty Air Force member. The men killed in the crash were Capt. Jeffrey Hill, 31, Maj. Aaron "Zippy" Malone, 36, Maj. Michael Freyholtz, 34, and Master Sgt. Thomas Cicardo, 47, who was posthumously promoted to senior master sergeant.
Cicardo was not a pilot, unlike the other three airmen. He worked as a guard loadmaster, a flight member who generally plans cargo and passenger placement.
As a professional RUclips watcher for the past 7 years with thousands of videos under my belt I can say this is sad 😔
TheFlightChannel still going strong after I first watched him over three years ago. Can’t believe he doesn’t have more subscribers
" There are old pilots and bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots"..
..Yes, true..but I can think of one exception..James Doolittle...saw an interview once when he was quite old...he said something to the effect: when he got old and realized his reflexes, quick thinking skills, and general flying abilities were diminishing, he quit flying altogether...very smart move, thus he lived to a ripe old age, instead of "dying while doing what he loved", as they always put it...Jimmy was a remarkable man in all respects...perhaps Mac McCauley should have considered this?....
True. Every time I get on a plane, I breathe a sigh of relief when the pilots are over 60.
@@hillarybillary21 Until they have a heart attack
True but this was their job for the day. They weren't being bold, they were just supposed to follow a routine.
Which they didn't follow very well
Possibly true, but I know of one in his late 90s last I heard, who flew the U.S. Army Air Corps P-38 in North Africa and Italy during WWII against the Germans. He even had to bail out over the North African desert once, flying back in from the Mediterranean Sea after escorting B-24 Liberators on a mission into Italy. Mechanical failure. He saw some men coming over the horizon and wasn't sure if it was good or bad, but thankfully it was the French Foreign Legion coming to rescue him. Thank God for His blessings and mercy I would say! :-). He told me the story back in the 1970s-80s as I recall. Saw a pic of him a year or two back, still going strong, with his daughter that I had dated a little in the 9th and 11th grades. Pretty cool.
I was one of the C-17 maintainers assigned to the 703 AMXS on that fateful day. I had just gotten home from work when it crashed. I'll never forget looking out my window and seeing black smoke filling up the sky after a coworker called me and told me the news. I don't know how I didn't hear the impact; I lived on Elmendorf then, and the crash was maybe 3 or 4 miles from my house. I've seen and been through a lot in my 21 years in the military, but this one was really tough to get through. The wife of one of the pilots on Sitka 43 lost her father in a plane crash two weeks after this crash.
This was a very well put together video, very informative!
I never thought I'd be addicted to watching plane crashes, but here I am. Love your videos! ❤
LOL same
I agreed because these videos just showed you that that life is too short and cherished every moment. But also these videos don’t discourage me to fly on a plane. I love flying on a plane. I say a prayer before I go on a plane
I was a Flight Engineer on the C141 I remember several times having tell the pilot to watch his bank , sometimes you have hot dog pilots that think they dont have to follow the regulations another time we took off into a thunderstorm when the tower told him everything was grounded , we popped about 30 rivets on the wing due to severe turbulence, I only feel sorry for the Loadmaster the other three were knuckleheads that should have been permanently grounded a long time ago. Safety officer what was he doing sleeping.
Clearly the pilot wasn’t in a condition to be piloting a plane. The fact that even on takeoff he wasn’t doing the right thing should have alerted the other crew members that something was wrong with the pilot.
Maybe the pilot had an aggressive and/or cocky personality and had the others shut up with his attitude. I am not an airman, not a pilot or something. But I, after watching tons of videos and documentaries, do know that; learn the limits of your plane, follow the regulations, watch the instruments and always keep an ear on your team. And if your aircraft warns you, leave what you're doing and let the aircraft recover itself, or cooperate with the other crew members and listen to them to overcome the incident.
C141 always had popped rivets somewhere. I worked on the A a d B models for 10.5 yrs.
@@woodrowwilliams1812 Drunk, on drugs, having a mental episode of some kind ?!, take your pick...sad.
It's shocking how fast these accidents happen when you see them on tape vs. being taken through it step by step.
As former aircrew this hits hard. We are taught and drilled DAILY on how important it is to follow the checklist, warnings, and cautions like your life depends on it, because it does...
It sad for the crew’s family, may they find peace. RIP CREW.
I was stationed in Alaska with the C-17 Squadron when this happened. It was on my birthday. I just had gotten off work and went home and sat down to eat dinner. (My house was on base) I got a call that Sitka 43/ A/C 173 crashed. We lost 4 brothers that day!
Wow
Another story my moms freind husband was in 9/11 in a elevator and the wing struck the elevator he was in but he survived. He had tons of broken bones and fractured
Later in the hospital he stopped breathing from rockets stuck in him
Sad
I live in Anchorage and remember driving by the base right after it happened and seeing the smoke from the crash. The airshow that year wasn't the same...
In the video they did not stall, they lost hight because of the bank angle and the manouver they were flying. abort the turn, level out was all that was needed to save the plane.
The inside wing was stalled, leaving little chance to level the plane out.
Lived in anchorage at the time, watched it happen from my balcony. Turns out, the pilot had an obnoxious amount of flight hrs and a ton of air show flights. That was their Achilles heel, over confidence is one of the more common killers. Same story with the B-52 in ‘94.
i was going to mention that is is just like the B-52 crash...pilot error in both cases. showing off gets people killed.
Pretty similar, yeah. Low speed, high bank, with a pilot showing off. But there are a few differences.
The B-52 was doing a practice run for the airshow, came in to land, there was another plane on the runway and had to do a go-around and requested permission to do a fly-by of the tower. It was an unplanned maneuver, and a bloody stupid one. Completely unnecessary to attempt a reckless maneuver like that.
This C-17 was performing a planned, max-effort maneuver. How the hell did they not have airspeed callouts planned? They had a plan! And then they didn't follow it. And they didn't take note of how far off the plan they were. It sounds like they began the turn as soon as the gear and slots were retracted. Why wasn't the turn planned to begin at a certain point (2.4 DME for example) or a certain airspeed?
The B-52 pilot was reckless and stupid, and decided to show off with an impromptu maneuver. The C-17 pilot had this max effort maneuver fully planned out and still managed to fuck it up. I'm not sure which one's worse.
If I remember correctly, the pilot on controls had been reprimanded several times before for violating flight rules but he still managed to keep his flight status.
Well yeah, because in the very back of the US constitution it says: “If at first you don’t succeed-try, try again.”
Eerily similarities to the B-52 crash at Fairchild AFB in 1994. Same story with a pilot that kept his flight status despite violating rules.
ruclips.net/video/YQa4PpIkOZU/видео.html
You’re thinking of Bud Holland in a similar situation but in a BUFF
I’m not even a pilot but through flight simulator I have an appreciation for basic aerodynamics and the meticulousness of flight. I’m also a paramedic who understands attention to detail and the importance of following protocol and procedure. Why would the US Air Force let someone fly such a huge and complex machine with lives in their hands who doesn’t have the discipline, integrity, maturity, and decency to respect the aircraft and it’s procedures? They should know how to prevent that plane from stalling blind folded with their hands tied behind their backs. I really do not understand such reckless behavior.
Stick to games. You have no idea what happened here.
Thats the mindset of some Fly boys for you ! Unfortunately, like racing drivers and motor cyclists they think they are invincible and can't resist pushing things that bit further each time.. To them it is intoxicating.
Sadly, graveyards are full of 'invincible' racing car drivers, motorcyclists and airmen.
@@johnallen8680 I imagine it’s better to die pushing the limit than not
@@bbbildhuu Well, that's a matter of opinion I reckon.. I like to think I know my limits and also I'll live longer for it..
@@bbbildhuu It sucks pushing the limit spontaneously iun an unsafe manner and killing several high-skilled people while ruining millions and millions of dollars of property and natural landscape.
The detail, graphics and explanations on this channel are second to none. Addictive and riveting!!!
Thank you so much for all your time and effort.
“O God, protect the men who fly
Through lonely ways beneath the sky...”
I was an aircraft mechanic, it was astounding how many pilots didn’t know their aircraft or its abilities. I’ve been on a few flights where the pilot was attempting to show off and flying dangerously. I definitely appreciate a competent pilot, just not a reckless one.
His dad was flying the B-52 at Fairchild Air Force Base in 1994.. ( looks like he taught his boy everything he knew )
One of these days our Wingnuts will realize that not every aircraft and far from every pilot, is billeted with their flight demonstration team.
Maximum performance maneuvers have little margin for error.
Straddling the razor’s edge on too many fronts, you can fall off in an instant.
Those angles at those speeds without lifting aids, gave me knots in my stomach and brought a tear to my eye.
Be safe fellow aviators, you don’t get a second chance.
I can't understand why they were not looking at that airspeed more closely. The copilot is retracting flaps and slats too early, why ?
FANTASTIC graphics. The content and production quality of this series makes "The Flight Channel" one of my top You Tube viewing selections. 👍
As usual never pay attention to the minimum and maximum limit of speed and bang angle!!
Congrats! !!...you made your day and someone else with you ended that day!
On August 9, 2010, we boarded an Alaska Railroad train for the journey from Denali National Park to Anchorage. As we approached Elmendorf the train slowed down and the crew informed us that we were the first train passengers carried through the site of a terrible airplane crash. We were asked not to take pictures, out of respect for the lost airmen, but I'll never forget the sight: the C-17 had crashed directly on the rails and most of the plane was still on site: some of it loaded onto to large trailers to clear the train tracks, other pieces scattered across the smoldering landscape. The forest was incinerated and the ground was blackened. It was a terrible, terrible, sobering sight: no one spoke a word until we pulled into the Anchorage station. That same week another cargo plane (a commercial craft) had crashed into the forest near our lodging by the Denali visitor center, leading the NP to close all hiking trails in the vicinity. The day of our train trip, a small plane crashed near a fishing village, killing former U.S. Senator Ted Stevens. Every time I fly I am grateful that our flight crews are careful, prudent, well-trained professionals. The costs of miscalculation, inattention, or poor judgment are usually fatal. This video explains a tragic event in a clear and respectful way, without sparing the truth.
I remember when this happened. I was on the C-17 West Coast Demonstration Team at March ARB at the time. It was devastating to us.
A week prior, I watched another pracrice video and he was definitely putting the airplane outside its performance envelope. While watching it, I said aloud, "he is going to crash that thing!". Sure enough, a week later, this happened. Terrible and could have been prevented. Everything he did, was wrong; from rotating early, to not maintaining proper climb speed, to retracting slats and flaps way too early. That is not even including crew coordination. Or the lack thereof. What a shame!
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I hope you’re OK…As Police, we know there are some things from which we never recover. I’m a nervous flier…I felt better listening to the cockpit radio during flights. When they quit after 9/11 it took me a long time to stay consistently calm. And before you ask, yes, police have things we never get over also…
@@WenbruReviews I do understand 100%
Ahhh Moreno Valley/Riverside.
First Military Appreciation Day I ever saw the Harrier was at March.
Then many years later saw the SR-71 fly into Norton AFB in San Bernardino.
All respect, appreciation, and thanks for all of you who serve(d).