One thing we probably didn't point out enough is the grease & oil resistance Mac uses on these two impacts and their Mac branded batteries vs the DeWalts, which DeWalt is starting to roll out now as well. But either way, SBD continues to pretty accurately rate their impacts compared to most on this channel, in this case even between brands rating the high torques the same - which should have nipped this debate in the bud, but salesmen will be salesmen! Torque of TTC is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
@@joshcrisp5261 They have a reaction bar, the dyno doesn't current have anything to "react" against. But we could I suppose, but they only really work in forward which we dont do a ton of in the day to day.
Warranty plays a big part in cost. Mac has a 3 year full coverage warranty. Dewalt has a 3 year limited warranty. Macs pretty lenient in their warranty and more often than not, has better turnaround time with repair. As you pointed out, the glass blown nylon housings also add to the cost difference.
The way my Mac dealer explained it as he carries both on the truck: Mac has a 30% glass fiber reinforcement and is more solvent/ drop resistant than DeWalt. They are however the same functional parts and should perform nearly identical. Mac batteries are also padded and also the same pa6gf30 as the Mac tools.
@@adampetten1009 most likely the same. Mac warranty on power tools is if I remember right 3 years and Dewalt is also 3 years. Support depends on your dealer. If they are like my local dealer and actually take care of the customer yes Mac support is better however allot of Mac trucks carry a decent amount of Dewalt and even if they don't they can 100% get you whatever Dewalt tool you want.
dewalt tools also are pa6gf30 for the housing, just for reference my brushed craftsman v20 impact is pp-gf30, curious if the brushless is pa6 or also pp.
From a hobby RC guy, and clarification on a statement....yes the difference could very well just be programming. Being they are brushless, the use an ESC to control the motor. The difference could be programming on the motors timing or in the programmed power curve or both.
@@CPthetooladdict Believe it or not, and I'm not saying it means anything, the Mac was 0.2lbs lighter. I believe I have footage to this effect as well. The mids weigh the same
The newer Snap On 1/2” battery impact is by far the strongest impact I’ve ever used. My buddy could tighten bolts that my Milwaukee 2760 could not bust loose and then he would break them loose in 1/2 second of impacting. It was far stronger than my Snappy 850 air, the aircat high torque air impacts, and the Ingersoll 1/2 air impacts. Maybe Thor is better, but I’ve never used a stronger impact than the newer SO electric 1/2”. Absolutely a beast, but still too expensive. I think the kit is $900.
I own several of the Mac 3\8" impacts as well as several DeWalt drills and drivers. The big difference I've found is durability. The tpu overmold is way more chemical resistant (the dewalts I use at work have all the tpu peeled off) and the plastic seems to take impacts better. The batteries are also physically tougher, I've broken cases on multiple DeWalt batteries and no Mac ones.
I've had the big boy 1/2 inch impact for over 5 years now and constantly everyday and I can say if you are using either one of these guns without a flexvolt battery you need to start. It makes a big difference.
The DCF894/MCF894 Have the exact same parts except for housings and anvil. Simple look up the parts break downs. The dcf899/bwp153 have different parts except for the impactor. This marketing concept is not new. Years ago "Black and Decker" (ya know before DeWalt?) sold the I believe 2750 grinder. At the same time it was marketed as a Black and Decker, DeWalt, Craftsman and SnapOn. The "ONLY" difference was the housings colors (chrome head for the SnapOn). The pricing was all over the board from roughly $59.00 to $225.00! The guys that got them out of the SnapOn van were all sorts of butt hurt when you informed them that the grinders had the exact part numbers and they just paid an extra $125. for a chrome housing! And yes the "yellow" DeWalt color is the worst in the industry for a mechanic to keep clean!!
It's a tool, who gives a flying rats azz if it gets dirty unless you're just buying them to collect and store in glass cabinets as garage queens then something wrong with you man
You mentioned "depending on how you hold it". Is there enough of that to make a video on using your preferred technique? Or does it not matter in real world application?
It's specific to SBD made impacts. There's no RIGHT answer, you just have to sort of tilt it from 12 to 6'oclock bias until you find the angle it likes (by seeing the socket make progress again)
We got a DeWalt mid torque 1/2" impact for a fixture in the shop I work at, and it will stop moving the nut completely until you angle it a certain way, then you get that extra half turn lol. Even brand new, it sounded like it was gonna blow up any second.
This is weird. I was just thinking about the reduction of torque to the bolt by allowing the impact to bounce around when you made the statement about how holding the impact can change the reading by 20-30 Ftlbs. I have used the technique of holding the body of the tool tightly to prevent the loss of torque from bouncing. It can help if the fastener is on the edge of loosening. Also, tightening slightly can help break loose a fastener stuck from corrosion but be careful.
Its not so much vibration as it is a binding affect on the internals of the gun if things aren't held perfectly level with the fastener. I own many pneumatic and pixie powered impacts from different brands (I have a tool buying problem) and all of them have that problem to some degree. The electrics seem to be affected the worst but I have two pneumatic guns that wont even start if they are not level enough with the fastener.
I use pretty much only the 60v Dewalt batteries anymore. The main reason I get the 60v is run time and cost. When a 60v is on sale its often less than the 20v of the same amp hours. Now I can use the battery on both tools. I have noticed some tools are stronger with the 60v batteries.
@jami w I don't do what these guys do. I have 2 of the 10ah batteries that came with my lawn mower. The only time I have noticed batteries make a difference in power for me is my Vacuum, and blower. I am a contractor. My use scenario is different, but I appreciate these guys test for sure. I have noted the 60v runtime to be substantially better in most cases than the 20v equivalent. I have not used the 10ah batteries in much so I cant say with those.
@jami w thats only the 6ah flexvolt because its 18650 cells. The 9ah and 12ah are stronger which is 15 21700 cells compared to 10 21700 cells in the 8ah
As a mechanic I’d say it’s probably the fact not everything is made the exact same. Those are probably all the same internals, some made with more and less copper in the motor just by happen chance at the plant. I’ve bought a brand new mid torque the day before a coworker bought the Mac version of my dewalt. They removed the exact same bolts and could remove the exact same bolts.
I'm hoping dewalt releases a new high torque to replace the outdated dcf899. My 899 is 5 years old and hurting but I wanted to wait until a new one comes out to replace it.
Love this channel! Thank you for everything you do, just picked up a Kobalt right angle over the Milwaukee after seeing the difference, also got one of your hoodies for the shop. Can't wait to see more!
I'm only four minutes in and I'm still happy with the Milwaukee 2760 and the Thor 1894. One fits with air, one fits with gigantic battery. Life is good.
We need a BOLTR of the dewalt vs Mac, I also find it funny how these are always called tool truck tools, but in my area I can mac or match etc in store. No truck needed.
I love these rebranding coming out videos! And it happens all over the place. I guess the Mac's 'grease & oil resistance' only matters in industries with pretty aggressive chemicals coming into contact with the tool? In my experience most of the usual plastics are perfectly durable. 🤔
I wonder if this is maybe a "binning" situation, they're ostensibly the same, but e.g. the motors get tested and sorted into high and low bins, determining the color of their destination. Happens all the time in technology, wouldn't be surprised if it happened here. They could bin motors, driver boards, impact mechanisms....
This is what I was thinking too. I think it is a combination binning and loose quality control, since it seems pretty inconsistent among even the same tools. I'd like to see tests of 5 or 10 of the same tool from different manufacturers to know who has the best QC tolerances.
A great point! However - as with biscuits, baked beans & Canon camera lenses - the binning will lead, in this case, to the 'good' ones getting the red livery, & the rest going in under the yellow livery.
IIRC, my mac dealer told me dewalt builds the mac tools under some slight differences. So in my book, either one is fine really because I can use tbe batteries interchangeably
i bought the MAC high torque boot from the tool truck, and the dewalt high torque impact from the farm store. they had a special, buy bare tool, get a 5ah battery free.
There is one difference you did not mention, that is the mac tools version uses a glass-filled nylon housing for the tool something like Nylon PA6, vs dewalt using the cheaper Polycarbonate or PBT from what i have gathered. You could pull the case halves apart and look for the markings to see what they are made of for sure. Im due to rebuild and re-grease my MAC high torque soon maybe i will have a gander and post what i observe here. I look forward to seeing the other tool truck offerings results. And that Makita 3/4", damn she's so sexy with all those beans i might have to try team blue finally...asian delight...
man I cant wait to see you guys with some of the new power stack batteries from dewalt. I hope the new business opportunity is going good for you as well!! Keep on rocking it !!
Personally I was pretty impressed with the Mac. But is it worth the extra money? Of course not, nobody working outside of a shop would go onto the truck to buy it. So other than having the convenience of a truck come to you each week, which is definitely a convenience, why buy it from them? Credit, same as any of the hand tools. Probably 90% of mechanics have a running account on at least one truck, many on multiple trucks. When I need a tool to perform my job I can walk onto the truck and depending on your relationship with the truck owner I can walk off without having to open my wallet at that time. At the very least I can put down a much smaller amount than what it actually costs. Personally I do not own any truck brand tools but I do understand why they are there. Value, service and convenience is measured in different ways. A good truck owner can help you to be able to do your job better with providing quality tools and helping to ease the opening of your wallet at that time.
I used to have thousands of dollars in snap on tools. I had all the 1st generation lithium ion snap on electric impacts. Now I have dewalt and I have great results with them. Only complaint I have is that dewalt doesn't make an electric ratchet so I bought a kobalt which works great and shares a battery with my kobalt shop vac. Also it's blue. Yellow isn't my favorite color but the high quality of the tools is enough to sell me on them and the color grows on me. Far as colors are concerned I have liked green and blue since I was a kid so biases aside, my tools work well and that's all that matters. I almost bought Milwaukee ratchets one day I saw an ad online for 1/4 & 3/8" electric ratchets with battery, charger and tool bag for around $300. I was nearly decided on buying the kit because of the perceived value. When I got to home depot they didn't have that set and buying individual components I would have easily spent $300 for one ratchet, battery and charger, no 1/4" no tool bag, one battery. That was a deal breaker so for barely a couple hundred dollars I bought kobalt. It works well, it's a pretty blue color, so is my shop vac which is also excellent. Plus I'm never using them both at the same time so I only need the one 24v battery I bought. 6S power! Furthermore my Dewalt Impacts have worked great, conveniently tore apart my old subaru and replaced head gaskets (I know, ha ha) then put the car back together in time for work Monday morning and my new electrics worked great. [Only assemble engines with hand tools and torque wrenches]. The bottom line is you need tools that work well for you. Typically quality tools are worth a little more money but not tool truck prices. Often times newer brushless motor technology and quality tools can be found in the middle price point and do very well for someone who knows how to use them. The best part is technology is still improving and a few years from now the current gen stuff will be obsolete. Put in work. God bless
This is a great example of how price doesn't always equal power. Love the video, keep up the great work. My questions is longevity. Does Mac last longer in an abusive environment compare to DeWalt? Long term longevity is more important to me then top power.
The difference between the Mac high torque in the DeWalt is probably from the weight difference if the detent pin anvil vs the hog ring anvil, since the detent pin anvil would have a hollow hole through it, would weigh as little less and probably not hit quite as hard, just my 2 cents
Plus you can get both DeWalt tools much cheaper. I got my 894 for $105 shipped brand new on eBay and the 899 for $179 shipped from Acme Tools during a sale. If Mac will replace the tools no questions when they break, that's the only reason I can see them being worth it.
WOW! I have the high torque MAC gun and used it for 3 years an haven't heard any of these rocks as a diesel tech but there are a few times I need my air Snap-on MG725 to break loose those stubborn rustys.
I would like to see the tool held by a vice vs by hand. DOing it by hand isnt a true accurate reading of the tools output due to wrist fatigue and finger grip not holding the tool true
Thank you for revisiting the Dewalt High torque with the bigger better battery! Every since I bought Dewalts 8ah batteries and run them on this impact, I have noticed a great deal of power difference. It would be nice to see you test out the dewalt 3/4 times electric gun as I had been interested in it for some time but I believe it’s honestly the same tool but with the bigger anvil. I’m sure we might see a tiny bit of difference but not enough to purchase it in the addition to this 1/2 gun. Hopefully dewalt releases a new 1/2 high torque soon and explore more into the 3/4 and 1” game as you feel maybe with there 60v battery system could make great larger anvil guns🤷🏻♂️
The thing for me about Mac vs DeWalt doesn't really have to do with performance it's to do with support. If I have an issue or something I don't have to leave work with a Mac. I text my dealer she comes by as soon as I need her and I got a replacement or repair in my hands when I need it. With a DeWalt I have to wait till work is done and spend my time to drive to the store and deal with the warranty there and I gotta spend my time to register it too. And then I might have to wait for a repair and then go back to the store at a later meanwhile my tool is gone or I was forced to buy more batteries. My time is worth the difference In price to me aswell as the convenience.
What? Dewalts are very comparably priced to Mac tools. Depending on what it's the same price. If you compare XR tools to bl spec they are the same price from what I've seen. It's about 300$ after tax for a Mac bl spec hex driver kit and it's @about 300$ for a DeWalt XR hex driver
My brother works for dewalt (stanley black and decker), he told me that they built dewalt and crafstman at the same factory in mexico. He said that they share 100% all the same components, but the crafstman uses a weaker tune, and the dewalt uses a different tune to outperform the crafstman. Then he said that they also run dewalt and mac tools at the same factory in the usa. They are the same, but the housing and tune is different.
@@CPthetooladdict It's usually end of day 1 or day 2 and 3 when all the new guys start poking around and think we have an axe to grind or are just some yahoo's with a bias trigger finger.
Would love to see the 9ah on the dewalt as i have one that gets used as a spare or when bolts are stubborn 😅. My dewalt is 8 years old and still going strong had to replace anvil once as sheared it off but was about £10 repair. Gun probably hasn't lost much power
I would bet the only difference in the age of the grease in them. If that mac has been runnly a lot more it's broken down more. Giving it better runs. I would love to see a TTC episode on tools with new vs old grease.
Well, that's sort of this epsiode. We tested a used DeWqalt originally, people said it was bad. So we also bought a new one here to compare to that, AND this used Mac.
The Mac battery packs are much more rugged then the dewalt. The housing is made out of a different plastic that doesn’t break as easy when the tool gets dropped.
You guys are the best. Like you pointed out, the service of your own dealer will probably be the finer selling point for the Mac. Hopefully videos like this will push SBD to differentiate their tools more. Thanks for another amazing test, looking forward to seeing who takes the crown here.
Thanks for the info. The 6Ah vs 5Ah battery comparison was very good to know. Would it be possible to also compare a flexvolt battery to see if it “impacts” the torque produced by these two Dewalts? Cheers from 🇨🇦.
But which of the tool trucks themselves has the most torque? I think you need to get the trucks to find out. Hook the axels up to the rig. Maybe you can perform a drop test on the trucks after that.
My 3/8 Mac gun took a shit three years ago, but I was wondering what motor can I get to fix it. As a transmission tech, I'm guessing I got tranny fluid inside the gun and made it weak. I opened it up and cleaned it, but it's still weak. Ever since then, I've replaced it with a 3/8 Milwaukee Fuel for work, but would like to fix the Mac gun for home use.
Thank you sir. I am honored to have a awesome brother like you! You have always helped and been there for me. I’m truly proud and blessed. I can’t wait for your live stream show on Friday. 🇺🇸😎🇺🇸
I bet they can pretty easily change the forward and reverse bias of the tool. Also, as you say in your pinned comment, the plastics are better on the mac tools when it comes to an auto envrionment.
Any plans on testing drills too? Anyway thanks for solving the mystery of potential differences between mac vs dewalt (vs craftsman) at least for torque!
In my experience most current Gen and even the last gen models impacts suffer from the problem of loosing power rather quickly over time. Even on new batteries. My uncle returned his Dewalt Impact driver (not sure which exact model) after 6 months of admittedly above average use because it was no longer able to drive those big wood screws you use for making roofs. They did replaced it, so no problems there, but the guy on the counter said they all have the same problem, all the brands they carry actually crap out under hard use way within the warranty period (This being Europe is at least 2 Years). They all seem to go for the "better replace tools on heavy users and make our money of the 95% who don't actually use them that often" approach. Even Hilti is guilty of doing that to some degree with the batteries. They sell you a warranty they now is going to include a replacement. Still cheaper than buying a second battery i would assume.
Commenting before watching I am guessing the Mac has a proprietary hammer more tuned for automotive or industrial use vs home builders. And I am probably wrong, wishful thinking, I like the red track suite. Don't judge me, I don't build houses for a living.
It’s important that you use the same Milla amp hour batteries. Higher Milla amp about batteries have more cells and can deliver a little bit more current at the same voltage. So a 6mah should put perform a 2mah on the same tool. I haven’t seen all your videos, so maybe you covered this?
i need to know if turning the socket with your hand while taking off the socket actually does anything. i do it all the time and it seems to add more torque to the nut and takes it off.
My Mac truck driver straight up tells his customers to buy DeWalt tools over the Mac ones because they are the same just cheaper. He does also sell them on the truck tho.
I just can’t stand most people that have tool truck tools… they expect me to be jealous and I’m just thinking “you spent twice the money for the same performance, and I can go back to store 3 miles away faster than you can wait for the tool truck next Monday.” On one occasion I had some guy tell me that his new SnapOn impact wrench was rated at ‘1900’ [ft. lbs. of torque was implied]. I looked up the impact in question, and it is in rated for ‘1900.’ 1900 impacts per minute.
Maybe. Two tools can look the same, but what switch are they using for a trigger? How are the connectors? Sintered or machined gears? Only wat to tell if it's worth the price is take it apart, or use them equally and see what breaks.
Most of the people that own tool truck tools, own them because they use them all day every day to make money and fix your broken machines. Honestly, you sound kinda jealous. That said, anyone buying truck air or power tools thinking they're better is delusional. I do love my snappy 14.4 tools, but mostly for the form factor. They are NOT more powerful than anything else and as the prices have gone up hundreds of dollars over the years, I would not be buying them again.
@@-tr0n I'm a mechanic, so how am I any different than a tool truck tool owner? I'm not a hobbyist. I can afford them if I so choose. Disliking people who have a delusional superiority complex in no way implies jealousy. If you like your SnapOn tools, I don't care. But if you go around claiming they have stats that they don't, or especially talking down to people who don't own SnapOn tools, then screw you.
i have an idea. i have the stubby 1/2 milwalkie m12 and ive found that if i keep just a slight bit of tension on the socket as its impacts it off a lot more of the power is deleiverd to the bolt. hope you see this and think it would be worth looking into. love TTC.
The mactools gun is designed for the garage environment. The outer shell is made of a different material more suitable for garage use. Its also more protected in a drop test. This is not a construction tool like the dewalt . The dewalt is a global brand for construction. Do confuse the two.
Hi TTC I was wondering if you would be interested in testing a mastercraft Maximum high torque impact. It’s a canadian company I think I paid $220 for a battery, charger, and the impact and it’s rated for 1100 ft lbs I think. I was a mechanic and it kept up with everyone’s Milwaukee’s just fine
I’m having trouble trying to find a Milwaukee 2763 torque test. Have u done one? Also the old school brushed Milwaukee (not around it to get model sry)
From my experience over the past decade, most electric impact guns have a "break in" cycle despite no talk of it.... they somehow gain more torque over the few dozen aggressive uses. Maybe if you buy new guns, run them for a while first for a more realistic test
I'd just like to point out a few reasons why people are willing to pay more for the tool truck brands. The biggest one is convenience. Is sure is easy to spend money when the store comes to you. Another reason is the ability to pay over time with no credit check involved. The third reason is the warranty process. You just hand the guy your broken tool and he gives you another. You don't have to send it in and wait for a replacement. The fourth reason is the customer service... When my 1/2 gun quit, my tool guy sent it in to be rebuilt and gave me a brand new one off the truck as a loaner. What other store does that? Certainly not Amazon.
And you still get ripped off. It's going to cost less to bring it to the store and get a replacement and ship it off for warranty than it is to get scammed by the tool man.
@@svn5994 You clearly don't use your tools at work. Having to deal with not having a tool you use every day sucks. My tools make me $200 to $600 a day. It's definitely worth the extra expense.
How about testing how much battery temperature effects performance? For example on electric cars the colder the battery, less power they can make. Like from 20°C to all the way -20°C. I live in Europe, so I dont know what that is in freedom units.
tool truck tools are nice because they come to you once a week or what ever to try to sell u stuff but also allows to to have them take a look at your stuff its its broken or what ever that being sais i think power tooks have onky a 3 or 2 year warranty most the time on the trucks n i doubt they would break that fast so yeah
Hi TTC, can you please check if your dcf899 on 3-rd speed trigger fully pressed the indicator bars will turn off or three of them will stay on while fully pressing the trigger of course... TIA I just bought a used one but im not liking the power it has i just wanna be sure there is a battery problem.
New video idea We take a lot of semi lugs off at the shop and sometimes even our most powerful guns aren't enough to crack em loose with all the rust and cold we get up here in Michigan. I recently heard about a relatively newer tool called a "nut buddy" or a torque multiplier that people use to get stubborn semi lugs off. They're around 100$ on Amazon and claim to hold some high torque numbers. Before I spend any money on one,I was wondering if you guys could test one out on a series of tests?
Hey thanks for the suggestion. Theres a couple different types and price ranges. We've planned to do about 3 of them which is $$$ so just saving the channel's money for one of these side projects.
They work. It’s just a planetary gear set to give you the torque multiplication. They’re not normally used with an impact. All the rattling would be hard on the gears, and the slop would take a lot of the power away from the impact.
This comment has nothing to do with the video, which was fantastic as always. Do you know, or can you find out why Astro tools only offers a 1 year warranty on their sockets and other products and not lifetime like just about everyone else. Thanks!
@@TorqueTestChannel After downloading the product info I see it says "Lifetime Warranty" thank you. I spoke to someone on the phone and was told they only had a 1 year warranty. Thank you for clearing up the confusion!
I just got the mid 3/8 and 1/2 combo deal from my dealer a 2a and a 5a and a charger for 476 if it was not for the deal I would have just got the yellow one I would not pay for the red color
I have a (probably) early year Dewalt high torque XD, got it for free from my uncle who was tool truck junkie chevy mechanic for 30 some odd years, claimed when no other impact in the shop would get something loose, it would. He gave it to me after he "upgraded" to whatever minecraft looking ass snap on unit came out and I'd helped him bale an untold amount of hay and fix his random shit. To this day (6 years ish later) my jank ass dewalt is still the gun we run to in my shop in the half inch category, we use extended anvil milwaukee one keys for tires, our other mechanics have older milwaukees, and we even have 3/4 and 1 inch air guns but when someone needs the sauce in the smaller socket range they're calling me to borrow my shit.
One thing we probably didn't point out enough is the grease & oil resistance Mac uses on these two impacts and their Mac branded batteries vs the DeWalts, which DeWalt is starting to roll out now as well. But either way, SBD continues to pretty accurately rate their impacts compared to most on this channel, in this case even between brands rating the high torques the same - which should have nipped this debate in the bud, but salesmen will be salesmen! Torque of TTC is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
@TorqueTestChannel have you guys considered testing Hytorc's cordless tools?
@@joshcrisp5261 They have a reaction bar, the dyno doesn't current have anything to "react" against. But we could I suppose, but they only really work in forward which we dont do a ton of in the day to day.
You need to test the new power stack Dewalt battery
Warranty plays a big part in cost. Mac has a 3 year full coverage warranty. Dewalt has a 3 year limited warranty. Macs pretty lenient in their warranty and more often than not, has better turnaround time with repair. As you pointed out, the glass blown nylon housings also add to the cost difference.
i use both mac and dewalt battery dont see much a difference
You gotta hold the tool upside down. The gravity helps the electrons fall into the tool faster.
All this time we've been doing it wrong!
Don't forget you gotta key them for a while - electrons move *very* slowly!
Naa. I think holding it at 90 degrees while you use it yields better results. Plus you would look so much cooler while throwing those ugga duggas. :)
You literally have to hold them upside down after a couple years of hard use!😂
Well now you know I hear sideways is a kill shot too
The way my Mac dealer explained it as he carries both on the truck: Mac has a 30% glass fiber reinforcement and is more solvent/ drop resistant than DeWalt. They are however the same functional parts and should perform nearly identical. Mac batteries are also padded and also the same pa6gf30 as the Mac tools.
I would also assume the mac has better warranty?
@@adampetten1009 most likely the same. Mac warranty on power tools is if I remember right 3 years and Dewalt is also 3 years. Support depends on your dealer. If they are like my local dealer and actually take care of the customer yes Mac support is better however allot of Mac trucks carry a decent amount of Dewalt and even if they don't they can 100% get you whatever Dewalt tool you want.
@@dreadswizzard9142 I can attest to the Mac being more durable.
dewalt tools also are pa6gf30 for the housing, just for reference my brushed craftsman v20 impact is pp-gf30, curious if the brushless is pa6 or also pp.
@@brycedavis907 I personally don't have any of either brand of power tool. All but one of my battery tools are Makita...
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From a hobby RC guy, and clarification on a statement....yes the difference could very well just be programming. Being they are brushless, the use an ESC to control the motor. The difference could be programming on the motors timing or in the programmed power curve or both.
@@CPthetooladdict be pretty interesting to tear the 2 down and check part numbers and compare the weight on the hammers.
It would be rare for a manufacturer to develop an all new hammer mechanism all to advertise the same power as before unless there was a quality issue
@@CPthetooladdict Believe it or not, and I'm not saying it means anything, the Mac was 0.2lbs lighter. I believe I have footage to this effect as well. The mids weigh the same
The tears are really going to flow when snap on gets tested. Can't wait
The newer Snap On 1/2” battery impact is by far the strongest impact I’ve ever used. My buddy could tighten bolts that my Milwaukee 2760 could not bust loose and then he would break them loose in 1/2 second of impacting. It was far stronger than my Snappy 850 air, the aircat high torque air impacts, and the Ingersoll 1/2 air impacts. Maybe Thor is better, but I’ve never used a stronger impact than the newer SO electric 1/2”. Absolutely a beast, but still too expensive. I think the kit is $900.
Thinking the same lol. SnapOn is stupidly overpriced, and outside of the States you don’t even get warranty.
Let's be honest the snap on will prob stop working half way through the tests and we will have to wait 3 months for a warranty repair!
@@SebastianBlix lol
Finally! I can show no coworker that they are the exact same. The amount of times he argues me on it was exhausting
If its the brushless, yes same same. Macs previous brushed version however is a facom
Coworker is right, one is red and the other yellow, how could you miss that?
Looks pretty darn same to me.
Tell your coworker to go ride a bike with no seat
I own several of the Mac 3\8" impacts as well as several DeWalt drills and drivers. The big difference I've found is durability. The tpu overmold is way more chemical resistant (the dewalts I use at work have all the tpu peeled off) and the plastic seems to take impacts better. The batteries are also physically tougher, I've broken cases on multiple DeWalt batteries and no Mac ones.
I've had the big boy 1/2 inch impact for over 5 years now and constantly everyday and I can say if you are using either one of these guns without a flexvolt battery you need to start. It makes a big difference.
The DCF894/MCF894 Have the exact same parts except for housings and anvil. Simple look up the parts break downs. The dcf899/bwp153 have different parts except for the impactor. This marketing concept is not new. Years ago "Black and Decker" (ya know before DeWalt?) sold the I believe 2750 grinder. At the same time it was marketed as a Black and Decker, DeWalt, Craftsman and SnapOn. The "ONLY" difference was the housings colors (chrome head for the SnapOn). The pricing was all over the board from roughly $59.00 to $225.00! The guys that got them out of the SnapOn van were all sorts of butt hurt when you informed them that the grinders had the exact part numbers and they just paid an extra $125. for a chrome housing! And yes the "yellow" DeWalt color is the worst in the industry for a mechanic to keep clean!!
It took me about 2 days using my Dewalt to completely give up on keeping the yellow plastic from getting stained.
It's a tool, who gives a flying rats azz if it gets dirty unless you're just buying them to collect and store in glass cabinets as garage queens then something wrong with you man
Took me one day of heavy use
Never forget, the first step to solving a problem, is admitting you have a problem.
Do they even have a 12 step program for tools?
You mentioned "depending on how you hold it". Is there enough of that to make a video on using your preferred technique? Or does it not matter in real world application?
It's specific to SBD made impacts. There's no RIGHT answer, you just have to sort of tilt it from 12 to 6'oclock bias until you find the angle it likes (by seeing the socket make progress again)
We got a DeWalt mid torque 1/2" impact for a fixture in the shop I work at, and it will stop moving the nut completely until you angle it a certain way, then you get that extra half turn lol. Even brand new, it sounded like it was gonna blow up any second.
I've been pretty happy with my DeWalt 1/2" impact wrench.
This is weird. I was just thinking about the reduction of torque to the bolt by allowing the impact to bounce around when you made the statement about how holding the impact can change the reading by 20-30 Ftlbs. I have used the technique of holding the body of the tool tightly to prevent the loss of torque from bouncing. It can help if the fastener is on the edge of loosening. Also, tightening slightly can help break loose a fastener stuck from corrosion but be careful.
Its not so much vibration as it is a binding affect on the internals of the gun if things aren't held perfectly level with the fastener. I own many pneumatic and pixie powered impacts from different brands (I have a tool buying problem) and all of them have that problem to some degree. The electrics seem to be affected the worst but I have two pneumatic guns that wont even start if they are not level enough with the fastener.
No way I’m paying extra for any rebranded tool. Thanks
I use pretty much only the 60v Dewalt batteries anymore. The main reason I get the 60v is run time and cost.
When a 60v is on sale its often less than the 20v of the same amp hours. Now I can use the battery on both tools.
I have noticed some tools are stronger with the 60v batteries.
@jami w I don't do what these guys do. I have 2 of the 10ah batteries that came with my lawn mower. The only time I have noticed batteries make a difference in power for me is my Vacuum, and blower. I am a contractor. My use scenario is different, but I appreciate these guys test for sure. I have noted the 60v runtime to be substantially better in most cases than the 20v equivalent. I have not used the 10ah batteries in much so I cant say with those.
@jami w thats only the 6ah flexvolt because its 18650 cells. The 9ah and 12ah are stronger which is 15 21700 cells compared to 10 21700 cells in the 8ah
As a mechanic I’d say it’s probably the fact not everything is made the exact same. Those are probably all the same internals, some made with more and less copper in the motor just by happen chance at the plant.
I’ve bought a brand new mid torque the day before a coworker bought the Mac version of my dewalt. They removed the exact same bolts and could remove the exact same bolts.
Thanks for cutting through all of the marketing and showing useful numbers👍
I was pretty confident that the Matco ones were just DeWalts as well you should test those in the future! They claim 1,600ft lbs on a 1/2.
On it!
I'm hoping dewalt releases a new high torque to replace the outdated dcf899. My 899 is 5 years old and hurting but I wanted to wait until a new one comes out to replace it.
In 2022 I believe.
tons of new updates tools coming quickly
Love this channel! Thank you for everything you do, just picked up a Kobalt right angle over the Milwaukee after seeing the difference, also got one of your hoodies for the shop. Can't wait to see more!
Hey thanks!
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I saw the same vid. Can you let me know if the battery gets in the way.
I'm only four minutes in and I'm still happy with the Milwaukee 2760 and the Thor 1894.
One fits with air, one fits with gigantic battery.
Life is good.
We need a BOLTR of the dewalt vs Mac, I also find it funny how these are always called tool truck tools, but in my area I can mac or match etc in store. No truck needed.
I love these rebranding coming out videos! And it happens all over the place.
I guess the Mac's 'grease & oil resistance' only matters in industries with pretty aggressive chemicals coming into contact with the tool? In my experience most of the usual plastics are perfectly durable. 🤔
@@CPthetooladdictI hear you. But in this case it seems the DeWalt is a good alternative. 😮
I wonder if this is maybe a "binning" situation, they're ostensibly the same, but e.g. the motors get tested and sorted into high and low bins, determining the color of their destination. Happens all the time in technology, wouldn't be surprised if it happened here. They could bin motors, driver boards, impact mechanisms....
This is what I was thinking too. I think it is a combination binning and loose quality control, since it seems pretty inconsistent among even the same tools. I'd like to see tests of 5 or 10 of the same tool from different manufacturers to know who has the best QC tolerances.
You mean power tool selective breeding?
Was thinking the same, a combination of binning and brand markup.
@@Yamatool That's probably the best short explanation of binning I've heard.
A great point! However - as with biscuits, baked beans & Canon camera lenses - the binning will lead, in this case, to the 'good' ones getting the red livery, & the rest going in under the yellow livery.
IIRC, my mac dealer told me dewalt builds the mac tools under some slight differences. So in my book, either one is fine really because I can use tbe batteries interchangeably
i bought the MAC high torque boot from the tool truck, and the dewalt high torque impact from the farm store. they had a special, buy bare tool, get a 5ah battery free.
You don’t get the respect you deserve this channel is underrated and you should easily be grossing over 1 million subs
There is one difference you did not mention, that is the mac tools version uses a glass-filled nylon housing for the tool something like Nylon PA6, vs dewalt using the cheaper Polycarbonate or PBT from what i have gathered. You could pull the case halves apart and look for the markings to see what they are made of for sure. Im due to rebuild and re-grease my MAC high torque soon maybe i will have a gander and post what i observe here. I look forward to seeing the other tool truck offerings results. And that Makita 3/4", damn she's so sexy with all those beans i might have to try team blue finally...asian delight...
man I cant wait to see you guys with some of the new power stack batteries from dewalt. I hope the new business opportunity is going good for you as well!! Keep on rocking it !!
Personally I was pretty impressed with the Mac. But is it worth the extra money? Of course not, nobody working outside of a shop would go onto the truck to buy it. So other than having the convenience of a truck come to you each week, which is definitely a convenience, why buy it from them? Credit, same as any of the hand tools. Probably 90% of mechanics have a running account on at least one truck, many on multiple trucks. When I need a tool to perform my job I can walk onto the truck and depending on your relationship with the truck owner I can walk off without having to open my wallet at that time. At the very least I can put down a much smaller amount than what it actually costs. Personally I do not own any truck brand tools but I do understand why they are there. Value, service and convenience is measured in different ways. A good truck owner can help you to be able to do your job better with providing quality tools and helping to ease the opening of your wallet at that time.
I used to have thousands of dollars in snap on tools. I had all the 1st generation lithium ion snap on electric impacts. Now I have dewalt and I have great results with them. Only complaint I have is that dewalt doesn't make an electric ratchet so I bought a kobalt which works great and shares a battery with my kobalt shop vac. Also it's blue. Yellow isn't my favorite color but the high quality of the tools is enough to sell me on them and the color grows on me. Far as colors are concerned I have liked green and blue since I was a kid so biases aside, my tools work well and that's all that matters. I almost bought Milwaukee ratchets one day I saw an ad online for 1/4 & 3/8" electric ratchets with battery, charger and tool bag for around $300. I was nearly decided on buying the kit because of the perceived value. When I got to home depot they didn't have that set and buying individual components I would have easily spent $300 for one ratchet, battery and charger, no 1/4" no tool bag, one battery. That was a deal breaker so for barely a couple hundred dollars I bought kobalt. It works well, it's a pretty blue color, so is my shop vac which is also excellent. Plus I'm never using them both at the same time so I only need the one 24v battery I bought. 6S power!
Furthermore my Dewalt Impacts have worked great, conveniently tore apart my old subaru and replaced head gaskets (I know, ha ha) then put the car back together in time for work Monday morning and my new electrics worked great. [Only assemble engines with hand tools and torque wrenches]. The bottom line is you need tools that work well for you. Typically quality tools are worth a little more money but not tool truck prices. Often times newer brushless motor technology and quality tools can be found in the middle price point and do very well for someone who knows how to use them. The best part is technology is still improving and a few years from now the current gen stuff will be obsolete. Put in work. God bless
This is a great example of how price doesn't always equal power. Love the video, keep up the great work.
My questions is longevity. Does Mac last longer in an abusive environment compare to DeWalt? Long term longevity is more important to me then top power.
The difference between the Mac high torque in the DeWalt is probably from the weight difference if the detent pin anvil vs the hog ring anvil, since the detent pin anvil would have a hollow hole through it, would weigh as little less and probably not hit quite as hard, just my 2 cents
Looking forward to seeing the new DeWalt batteries vs the old once they drop for sale
PowerStack on a MAC will be very interesting. It may change everything? 🤷♂️
yeah, dewalt batts are insanely expensive...
Plus you can get both DeWalt tools much cheaper. I got my 894 for $105 shipped brand new on eBay and the 899 for $179 shipped from Acme Tools during a sale. If Mac will replace the tools no questions when they break, that's the only reason I can see them being worth it.
That would be nice, but they won't. I have several Mac 20v impacts and they have a 3 year warranty.
WOW! I have the high torque MAC gun and used it for 3 years an haven't heard any of these rocks as a diesel tech but there are a few times I need my air Snap-on MG725 to break loose those stubborn rustys.
I would like to see one day on tools boxes (TTC) for (Torque Test Certified)
I would like to see the tool held by a vice vs by hand. DOing it by hand isnt a true accurate reading of the tools output due to wrist fatigue and finger grip not holding the tool true
Then all the previous testing would need a redo. Umm...
@@paedahe4975 Such is the Scientific Method
More repeatable sure, more real world realistic no
Thank you for revisiting the Dewalt High torque with the bigger better battery! Every since I bought Dewalts 8ah batteries and run them on this impact, I have noticed a great deal of power difference. It would be nice to see you test out the dewalt 3/4 times electric gun as I had been interested in it for some time but I believe it’s honestly the same tool but with the bigger anvil. I’m sure we might see a tiny bit of difference but not enough to purchase it in the addition to this 1/2 gun. Hopefully dewalt releases a new 1/2 high torque soon and explore more into the 3/4 and 1” game as you feel maybe with there 60v battery system could make great larger anvil guns🤷🏻♂️
The thing for me about Mac vs DeWalt doesn't really have to do with performance it's to do with support. If I have an issue or something I don't have to leave work with a Mac. I text my dealer she comes by as soon as I need her and I got a replacement or repair in my hands when I need it. With a DeWalt I have to wait till work is done and spend my time to drive to the store and deal with the warranty there and I gotta spend my time to register it too. And then I might have to wait for a repair and then go back to the store at a later meanwhile my tool is gone or I was forced to buy more batteries. My time is worth the difference In price to me aswell as the convenience.
What? Dewalts are very comparably priced to Mac tools. Depending on what it's the same price. If you compare XR tools to bl spec they are the same price from what I've seen. It's about 300$ after tax for a Mac bl spec hex driver kit and it's @about 300$ for a DeWalt XR hex driver
My brother works for dewalt (stanley black and decker), he told me that they built dewalt and crafstman at the same factory in mexico.
He said that they share 100% all the same components, but the crafstman uses a weaker tune, and the dewalt uses a different tune to outperform the crafstman.
Then he said that they also run dewalt and mac tools at the same factory in the usa. They are the same, but the housing and tune is different.
Will Dewalt batteries work on Craftsman?
They will not
@@TorqueTestChannel Damn 🤨
Loving your videos! Do the flexvolt batteries add any power on 20v tools?
Some people are going to get pissy
It's all good, no doubt we didn't adequality investigate the pixie dust they sprinkle on red models coming from the same assembly line.
@@CPthetooladdict It's usually end of day 1 or day 2 and 3 when all the new guys start poking around and think we have an axe to grind or are just some yahoo's with a bias trigger finger.
@@CPthetooladdict the butthurt will come I'm sure give it a day or two brother
Would love to see the 9ah on the dewalt as i have one that gets used as a spare or when bolts are stubborn 😅. My dewalt is 8 years old and still going strong had to replace anvil once as sheared it off but was about £10 repair. Gun probably hasn't lost much power
I would bet the only difference in the age of the grease in them. If that mac has been runnly a lot more it's broken down more. Giving it better runs.
I would love to see a TTC episode on tools with new vs old grease.
Well, that's sort of this epsiode. We tested a used DeWqalt originally, people said it was bad. So we also bought a new one here to compare to that, AND this used Mac.
The Mac battery packs are much more rugged then the dewalt. The housing is made out of a different plastic that doesn’t break as easy when the tool gets dropped.
You guys are the best. Like you pointed out, the service of your own dealer will probably be the finer selling point for the Mac. Hopefully videos like this will push SBD to differentiate their tools more. Thanks for another amazing test, looking forward to seeing who takes the crown here.
Thanks for the info. The 6Ah vs 5Ah battery comparison was very good to know.
Would it be possible to also compare a flexvolt battery to see if it “impacts” the torque produced by these two Dewalts?
Cheers from 🇨🇦.
But which of the tool trucks themselves has the most torque? I think you need to get the trucks to find out. Hook the axels up to the rig. Maybe you can perform a drop test on the trucks after that.
My 3/8 Mac gun took a shit three years ago, but I was wondering what motor can I get to fix it. As a transmission tech, I'm guessing I got tranny fluid inside the gun and made it weak. I opened it up and cleaned it, but it's still weak. Ever since then, I've replaced it with a 3/8 Milwaukee Fuel for work, but would like to fix the Mac gun for home use.
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I bet they can pretty easily change the forward and reverse bias of the tool. Also, as you say in your pinned comment, the plastics are better on the mac tools when it comes to an auto envrionment.
Any plans on testing drills too? Anyway thanks for solving the mystery of potential differences between mac vs dewalt (vs craftsman) at least for torque!
In my experience most current Gen and even the last gen models impacts suffer from the problem of loosing power rather quickly over time. Even on new batteries. My uncle returned his Dewalt Impact driver (not sure which exact model) after 6 months of admittedly above average use because it was no longer able to drive those big wood screws you use for making roofs. They did replaced it, so no problems there, but the guy on the counter said they all have the same problem, all the brands they carry actually crap out under hard use way within the warranty period (This being Europe is at least 2 Years). They all seem to go for the "better replace tools on heavy users and make our money of the 95% who don't actually use them that often" approach. Even Hilti is guilty of doing that to some degree with the batteries. They sell you a warranty they now is going to include a replacement. Still cheaper than buying a second battery i would assume.
You guys should do a comparison with the new Matco electric ratchet, as well as the Mac, and Milwaukee. Haven’t seen much on the Mac or matco ratchets
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I am guessing the Mac has a proprietary hammer more tuned for automotive or industrial use vs home builders. And I am probably wrong, wishful thinking, I like the red track suite. Don't judge me, I don't build houses for a living.
I want to know if Mac is releasing a new high torque and mid torque like Dewalt has with the dcf900 & dcf891.
It’s important that you use the same Milla amp hour batteries. Higher Milla amp about batteries have more cells and can deliver a little bit more current at the same voltage. So a 6mah should put perform a 2mah on the same tool. I haven’t seen all your videos, so maybe you covered this?
Cp talks very highly of you guys. I enjoy both of your shows
i need to know if turning the socket with your hand while taking off the socket actually does anything. i do it all the time and it seems to add more torque to the nut and takes it off.
I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH YOUR TESTING,,, GOOD JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Mac truck driver straight up tells his customers to buy DeWalt tools over the Mac ones because they are the same just cheaper. He does also sell them on the truck tho.
The craftsman mid torque is the same as the dewalt, craftsman’s the same as dewalt look at their 3/8 impact and the brushless 1/4 impacts
I just can’t stand most people that have tool truck tools… they expect me to be jealous and I’m just thinking “you spent twice the money for the same performance, and I can go back to store 3 miles away faster than you can wait for the tool truck next Monday.”
On one occasion I had some guy tell me that his new SnapOn impact wrench was rated at ‘1900’ [ft. lbs. of torque was implied]. I looked up the impact in question, and it is in rated for ‘1900.’ 1900 impacts per minute.
Maybe. Two tools can look the same, but what switch are they using for a trigger? How are the connectors? Sintered or machined gears? Only wat to tell if it's worth the price is take it apart, or use them equally and see what breaks.
Most of the people that own tool truck tools, own them because they use them all day every day to make money and fix your broken machines. Honestly, you sound kinda jealous. That said, anyone buying truck air or power tools thinking they're better is delusional.
I do love my snappy 14.4 tools, but mostly for the form factor. They are NOT more powerful than anything else and as the prices have gone up hundreds of dollars over the years, I would not be buying them again.
@@-tr0n well said.
@@-tr0n I'm a mechanic, so how am I any different than a tool truck tool owner? I'm not a hobbyist. I can afford them if I so choose. Disliking people who have a delusional superiority complex in no way implies jealousy. If you like your SnapOn tools, I don't care. But if you go around claiming they have stats that they don't, or especially talking down to people who don't own SnapOn tools, then screw you.
i wonder what that klein BAT20-7161 impact is like compared to the dewalt, mac and craftsman
i have an idea. i have the stubby 1/2 milwalkie m12 and ive found that if i keep just a slight bit of tension on the socket as its impacts it off a lot more of the power is deleiverd to the bolt. hope you see this and think it would be worth looking into. love TTC.
This is a way better channel than it should be.
The mactools gun is designed for the garage environment. The outer shell is made of a different material more suitable for garage use. Its also more protected in a drop test.
This is not a construction tool like the dewalt . The dewalt is a global brand for construction. Do confuse the two.
thought you were going to do a tear down. to see what the real differences might be that'd be cool
Cp is a great guy. I like watching both of your channels
"A Dewalt in a fancy red track suit"
*squatting intensifies
Hi TTC I was wondering if you would be interested in testing a mastercraft Maximum high torque impact. It’s a canadian company I think I paid $220 for a battery, charger, and the impact and it’s rated for 1100 ft lbs I think. I was a mechanic and it kept up with everyone’s Milwaukee’s just fine
This is why I've always gone with Milwaukee. Is close to the top and always gets what I need done.
I’m having trouble trying to find a Milwaukee 2763 torque test. Have u done one? Also the old school brushed Milwaukee (not around it to get model sry)
From my experience over the past decade, most electric impact guns have a "break in" cycle despite no talk of it.... they somehow gain more torque over the few dozen aggressive uses. Maybe if you buy new guns, run them for a while first for a more realistic test
I'd just like to point out a few reasons why people are willing to pay more for the tool truck brands. The biggest one is convenience. Is sure is easy to spend money when the store comes to you. Another reason is the ability to pay over time with no credit check involved. The third reason is the warranty process. You just hand the guy your broken tool and he gives you another. You don't have to send it in and wait for a replacement. The fourth reason is the customer service... When my 1/2 gun quit, my tool guy sent it in to be rebuilt and gave me a brand new one off the truck as a loaner. What other store does that? Certainly not Amazon.
And you still get ripped off. It's going to cost less to bring it to the store and get a replacement and ship it off for warranty than it is to get scammed by the tool man.
@@svn5994 You clearly don't use your tools at work. Having to deal with not having a tool you use every day sucks. My tools make me $200 to $600 a day. It's definitely worth the extra expense.
How about testing how much battery temperature effects performance? For example on electric cars the colder the battery, less power they can make. Like from 20°C to all the way -20°C. I live in Europe, so I dont know what that is in freedom units.
I like it. Especially the new powerstack pouch batteries, is it any different or worse?
I've been a fan of dewalt for years. Glad to see I havent been waiting money on the truck brand. That is made by the company
tool truck tools are nice because they come to you once a week or what ever to try to sell u stuff but also allows to to have them take a look at your stuff its its broken or what ever that being sais i think power tooks have onky a 3 or 2 year warranty most the time on the trucks n i doubt they would break that fast so yeah
Hi TTC, can you please check if your dcf899 on 3-rd speed trigger fully pressed the indicator bars will turn off or three of them will stay on while fully pressing the trigger of course... TIA I just bought a used one but im not liking the power it has i just wanna be sure there is a battery problem.
New video idea
We take a lot of semi lugs off at the shop and sometimes even our most powerful guns aren't enough to crack em loose with all the rust and cold we get up here in Michigan. I recently heard about a relatively newer tool called a "nut buddy" or a torque multiplier that people use to get stubborn semi lugs off. They're around 100$ on Amazon and claim to hold some high torque numbers. Before I spend any money on one,I was wondering if you guys could test one out on a series of tests?
Hey thanks for the suggestion. Theres a couple different types and price ranges. We've planned to do about 3 of them which is $$$ so just saving the channel's money for one of these side projects.
They work. It’s just a planetary gear set to give you the torque multiplication. They’re not normally used with an impact. All the rattling would be hard on the gears, and the slop would take a lot of the power away from the impact.
This comment has nothing to do with the video, which was fantastic as always.
Do you know, or can you find out why Astro tools only offers a 1 year warranty on their sockets and other products and not lifetime like just about everyone else.
Thanks!
Which sockets? Most of that category IS lifetime
@@TorqueTestChannel
The 3/8 Metric Nano Impact Sockets. When I click on the warranty it shows a 1 year limited warranty.
Those are lifetime. Click on warranty where? I don't see 1 year or anything to click on for the item
@@TorqueTestChannel After downloading the product info I see it says "Lifetime Warranty" thank you. I spoke to someone on the phone and was told they only had a 1 year warranty. Thank you for clearing up the confusion!
No problem. All impact sockets and impact bits are lifetime. A photo of the broken piece will get you a replacement shipped
If you can get a student discount with MAC, the MAC versions can be purchased for less than the Dewalt versions.
Why didn’t you compare the MAC with the DCF900 instead ??
Because the DCF900 didnt exist yet
Thanks again for the knowledge
I bought my mac impact in a bundle, pretty happy with performance and price
How about disassembling the dewalt & mac to compare the internal ?
I've been waiting for this!!!!! thank you.
Any chance Stanley/B&D don't push their motors as much to increase the longevity before they'd need replacement?
For sure. No doubt they all do to some degree
More than time Dewalt updated, perhaps we will see a new high torque released with a big boy power stack.
I just got the mid 3/8 and 1/2 combo deal from my dealer a 2a and a 5a and a charger for 476 if it was not for the deal I would have just got the yellow one I would not pay for the red color
Anyway you could dyno the different settings in the Dewalt dcf921. Curious about speed 1 and precision lbs. thanks love the channel
Didn't we do the settings of that gun in its video?
Your channel rocks. I still think you should have over 100Ks subscribers.
I have a (probably) early year Dewalt high torque XD, got it for free from my uncle who was tool truck junkie chevy mechanic for 30 some odd years, claimed when no other impact in the shop would get something loose, it would. He gave it to me after he "upgraded" to whatever minecraft looking ass snap on unit came out and I'd helped him bale an untold amount of hay and fix his random shit. To this day (6 years ish later) my jank ass dewalt is still the gun we run to in my shop in the half inch category, we use extended anvil milwaukee one keys for tires, our other mechanics have older milwaukees, and we even have 3/4 and 1 inch air guns but when someone needs the sauce in the smaller socket range they're calling me to borrow my shit.
i wonder if the mac spins faster in one direction vs the other
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I don't know much but Shouldn't the Mac be tested with the Mac battery?