Great class and a beautiful female electus. Interesting how the perch vs a flat surface changed her thinking, and this little change made a huge difference. This is one lucky bird to hava a family who cares enough to take her to the best. Thank you for sharing.
I have never read a title more applicable to me. My ekkie is so easy to trigger. Even head scratches are restricted and closely monitored for mating behavior. Edit: two minutes in and it's relatable. I taught Holly to turn one way with an under the perch cue, and when I was trying to use and above the head cue for the other direction she'd sometimes misread the signal and "squat" to be tread. She doesn't anymore, thankfully.
What a small world, Lincoln's mom here. Yeah only time Lincoln let's me touch his head is when he's getting aroused so those are a big no-no. I can't bring him near my computer either otherwise it immediately triggers hormones. Not sure why.
@@rinacamden3629 we're good! I post most everything of interest in Holly's daily updates. Right now I'm working in making and freezing the motherload of chop
I love watching you guys with people, you are so good at finding things to praise about what people are doing before you bring in the criticism. Also love how animals learn what you're teaching them, which might not be what you think you are training them to do.
I really enjoyed this training session. I feel so relaxed and chill when watching, which I'm sure is a good thing. If you have both owner and bird relaxed it goes smoother. I'm starting to noticed way more what to look for in a Hormonal bird. Great session. Love the side lesson from dave, " jumper means sweatshirt ". I swear over a year of watching I'm much better equipped to get my bird. Thx and keep them coming. Kathleen.
Oh Dave thank you for letting people know about sleep my Eclectus has a separate cage in a quiet warm dark room to maximize his sleep and it helps so much. But everyone kept saying I was spoiling him. Lol.
Oh my goodness the first half of this video was me wincing and making faces 😅 I love that these owners reached out and are trying, but also omgomgomg staaapppp! I'm so glad they took it in stride and did their best to change all the things they were struggling with.
Canary: no stick, no clicker but by showing treat like u do, I got him to step up onto t perch on scales, he learnt so fast. he loves hemp seeds n now the ONLY way he gets hemp seed is for reward he's earnt. thanks so much for your awesome videos. I use the same words for any comand and some hand signals with the word but its been so sucessful and he is so amazing, and so clever.
Thank you for sharing! It amazed me always - targeting looks so simple but it's not! I understand now it's a base for any further training so it should be done properly! Thank you♥️
Haha!!! Great training from the little I know, but such a great point about giving a trophy when it wasn’t earned, lol. I’m watching your videos in preparation for my Eclectus next month (or early November). Thanks for the videos
I have an eclectus and would love to apply some of this such as your clicker to train. The problem is down in tassie shipping will be 39$ so that’s 49$ just for some clickers, plus your toy boxes sound amazing but shipping makes it to expensive, You should like look into a store or supplier in Australia if that’s possible, Love you guys thanks for the constant upload
I don’t agree with Ekkies having to do stupid tricks. Just enjoy the wild bird in her & talk to her a lot as a family member. My Ekkie has a massive vocabulary and always speaks clearly and in context. I NEVER handle my 15yo female Ekkie as she doesn’t want to be manhandled.. fair enough. She’s beautiful healthy never plucked and she’s in the lounge room with a cover at night so she can see & be part of all the activities.
i was just watching the parrot care and routine vid and it had the cutest bandit vids! i amost cried! im just so sorry that he passed away! if i get a galah i will name it bandit!
In reference to the shirt.... a bird is a prey animal. Could that woman have stood in front of a mirror and thought, "Would my bird appreciate this image standing in front of her?"
That's an issue that I have not seen any training video address. Would clothing choices have a direct impact on the success or failure of a formal training session? I've heard of stories when a family bird takes offense at a new hat or pair of purple fuzzy slippers and starts to act out, but shouldn't we consider the type clothing we wear during times when we want our birds to be able to focus and learn?
Ahh target training puts my Male eclectus into a hormonal state before it has even begun! Just seeing the stick causes him to start regurgitating. When I walk away from his training bubble and hide the stick from his view he will pluck out feathers and blow them at me. He just stays hyped hormonally for an extended period of time, plucking, rubbing his beak aggressively on anything he can, weaving his head back and forth etc. He doesn't bite me or anything but you can tell he is so frustrated and uncomfortable!
My eci just laid her first egg yesterday, she does have a male friend but could you do a video on how to tell if an egg has been fertilised or not please 😊
since ur an expert with birds i need ur help! i have 2 green cheeked conures that are tamed andare adorable! they love me and love playing with me and are super energetic and quite affectionate but there is an issue. They do not like being pet or scratched on the head or any physical contact.The only physical contact they like is stepping up on my finger and going on my shoulder. Any advice?
And what about the ones who don't need any hormonal triggers at all? My ekkie girl is hell bent on laying eggs no matter what season it is or what distractions I put in place. She became egg bound and her oviduct was removed, then a hormone implant went in. Her strong desire to lay kept going until she had a horrid mass of egg yolks in her abdomen. The Avian vet assures me that I have done, and am doing, everything right for my girl, she is just a prolific layer. So we keep an eye out for the telltale nesting behaviour and replace the implant as needed.
Hey, I’m getting a green cheek conure soon from a friend who didn’t have the time to take care of it. It’s wings ARE clipped and I don’t know if I should keep getting them trimmed until I can train it. I have to budgies already and they will be housed separately in the same room. If anyone has any tips or anything that they could share that would be epic. 👍
I adopted a 7 year old green cheek in February. His wings were clipped but he was able to fly quite well short distances. I've worked hardest on what I think of as behavioral training - station/recall, step up/step down and target training and I've managed several tricks as well. He's almost always quite eager to train and is very well behaved. He's fully feathered now and we are having a lot of fun together. I've adhered very carefully to permission based training advocated on this channel. Good luck!
I have a green cheek. I would recommend not letting your budgies out when the conure is out. They can be a bit aggressive around smaller birds, and their beaks are much stronger. I hope you enjoy your new friend. Just be patient with them, everything is new for them too. Lots of treats for good behaviour, and love.
Molting and getting all flighted feathers in takes a while and we are big advocates of flight. I think it also holds you more responsible for doing your training properly because it makes you really think how to get the bird to do what you want by choosing to stay with you rather than flee.
You guys must have banked out in Australia 💴💴💴. I imagine it would be tough with covid bc like most of us that rely on in person interactions for work you must have needed to alter your consultations 😩
My bird behavior is just off the wall. He is friendly , but! Always always hormonal .. unfortunately, he is my first bird pet as far as his breed cockatiel. Pie I was told . He is a amazing when talking and loving nature. As far as diet goes, he won't eat anything raw. I have to cook every veggie.. He loves carrots and potatoes...very fussy appetite...I thought I'd try getting him a companion, but! The breeder told me not too because he has been on his own with me since he basically came off formula. Any suggestions on what I can or stop giving him to slow down his urge to mate??? He is definitely a loner and again very friendly also, fussy very very fussy about treats. I also noticed any new toy I try to introduce him to, he becomes afraid and just freaks out. I don't understand why this is happening??? I end up having to give toys , expensive ones away. Any suggestions??? Would be appreciated. He is 7 years old as of today.
I have a question, Can I get a pair of Macaws (Hyacinth Macaws) and will they be able to breed and raise their own babies in captivity? I think my main question is will they lay eggs in captivity and if so will they be fertile?
I got some bad bites from my adopted female eclectus during the first month, but since I started to tell her "tch-tch-tch" as soon as I saw her nervous, she has calmed down and doesn't bite anymore. Now when she feels like biting she herself says "tch-tch-tch" and steps back as soon as I make the "don't bite me" facial expression ahahah.
Do female birds have stronger hormone reactions than male birds? I don’t own bird but am looking into getting one in the near future. Just wondering if that’s true. Because from videos I’ve seen it seems like female birds have a stronger hormone reaction.
That's hard to say, I think it's more of a "bird by bird" basis than gender related. I tend to see more hormonal male amazons and cockatoos than females in those species, but in macaws I notice it more in the females... and with the eclectus specifically... probably more in the females. So I really think it varies case by case.
Jamie, With your 3 Macaws. What is the birds' weight if all feathers were off? We know what it's weight covered in feathers. Does what they eat make feather lighter or weakers or heavier? I came across this reading talking about feather count on birds. NUMBER OF FEATHERS AND BODY SIZE IN PASSERINE BIRDS sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/auk/v055n04/p0651-p0657.pdf My question is feather seems to be the same size/weight all the time by just looking at them. But you can overfeed bird and in gets to be chubby? Chubby birds seem to fly unstable.
Omg hi love the vid so I need some advice do you think a green cheek Conure, a moustache parakeet, cockatiel, dusky Headed Conure, or peach fronted Conure would be good for an apartment?
All of these birds can get pretty loud. Whether they bother your apartment neighbors or not probably would depend on the neighbors. I'd recommend going to a rescue and telling them you what your looking for, because there are individual birds that are quieter or louder in any species. If you can't or don't want to go to a rescue maybe get a female cockatiel. I hear they tend to be quiet. Cockatiels are also less screechy then conures, so maybe the neighbors wouldn't mind the noise as much.
I have a green cheek that is so quiet I wouldn't worry for a minute having it in an apartment. The trick is keeping her entertained and make sure sure is comfortable with cage time. A lot of green cheeks will scream for their person so from the start I gave her time in her cage with lots of toys. A rescue is a great idea!!
I can see that the birds feather condition is not that nice e.g matted feathers on the breast and stomach, is this due to hormones or poor diet or something else?
Usually in ekkies it's poor diet and over-handling (the oils on our hands mess with the oils in their feathers) and there seems to be a huge misunderstanding of the ekkie diet.
Come on works as a command my girl will say that to my boy when she wants him or say it to me when she doesn't want to come. She reminds me of my eccy but she is better behaved. However I can get her in her cage easily. My boy tho I have to trick him in and then he makes sad little noises but I can pick him up with my hands and he won't bite. I've had birds for 16 odd years and I think that my female eccy is the most difficult bird I've ever had. I would never get rid of mine I love her but female eccys should only go to males, she has bit every one of my girlfriends.
Hay...., Actually i want to buy your book regarding parrots.... Do you do international shipping? Can i get your mail ✉ id if possible Thank you ☺ in advance
@@suzithewitch Sorry, I have to disagree. Baby boomers were born between 1944 to 1964 and are currently 55 to75 old. Gen X were born 1965 to 1979 and currently are 40 to 54 and millennials were born between 1980 -1994 . If anyone is responsible for current millennials ,it's millennials and Gen X. Nice try though!
@@fiddlefaddle1 Yes, I know, I'm a boomer mysellf (turning 56 this year). My son (not grandson) was born in 92. Never once did he demand a trophy for showing up. Yet schools and sports kept giving them out. I wonder who came up with the idea of participation trophies? The kids? Are you saying the grownups aren't in charge?
@@suzithewitch No, I'm saying every bloody liberal is the reason. It's the liberal education system that's giving out the trophies. It's the liberal parents that wants the kids to have them. Get it? The liberals are the ones in charge!
Suzi the Sea Witch, Sorry, didn't mean to seem snippy. It's just my opinion. I have two grandnieces that I care a lot about and I worry about their future.
The best is when she fails to get a reward, you can see her thinking. Thanks for finding great owners of Eclectus. So fun to what.
She is a very beautiful and smart parrot.
Your daughter is going to grow up with such an incredible understanding and love for the world.
Great class and a beautiful female electus. Interesting how the perch vs a flat surface changed her thinking, and this little change made a huge difference. This is one lucky bird to hava a family who cares enough to take her to the best. Thank you for sharing.
The worst part about your videos is that they end! Love how informative this was
Aw thanks so much!
Wow, those colors. Absolutely beautiful. That temperament too. She's so chill.
Lol she really likes to step onto that hand holding the treats. What a cutie. So glad she's and her human got what they needed!
I have never read a title more applicable to me. My ekkie is so easy to trigger. Even head scratches are restricted and closely monitored for mating behavior.
Edit: two minutes in and it's relatable. I taught Holly to turn one way with an under the perch cue, and when I was trying to use and above the head cue for the other direction she'd sometimes misread the signal and "squat" to be tread. She doesn't anymore, thankfully.
What a small world, Lincoln's mom here. Yeah only time Lincoln let's me touch his head is when he's getting aroused so those are a big no-no. I can't bring him near my computer either otherwise it immediately triggers hormones. Not sure why.
omgg i follow you and holly on tumblr. how are you guys?
@@rinacamden3629 we're good! I post most everything of interest in Holly's daily updates. Right now I'm working in making and freezing the motherload of chop
I love watching you guys with people, you are so good at finding things to praise about what people are doing before you bring in the criticism. Also love how animals learn what you're teaching them, which might not be what you think you are training them to do.
What a beautiful bird. I really hope they can work through the hormone issues with her.
I really enjoyed this training session. I feel so relaxed and chill when watching, which I'm sure is a good thing. If you have both owner and bird relaxed it goes smoother. I'm starting to noticed way more what to look for in a Hormonal bird. Great session. Love the side lesson from dave, " jumper means sweatshirt ". I swear over a year of watching I'm much better equipped to get my bird. Thx and keep them coming. Kathleen.
Beautiful bird! She learns quickly 😀
Loved the "loser" anology...pure gold!
Oh Dave thank you for letting people know about sleep my Eclectus has a separate cage in a quiet warm dark room to maximize his sleep and it helps so much. But everyone kept saying I was spoiling him. Lol.
Love these videos, so helpful!
You guy's are awesome love watching your RUclips channel, im learning a lot from all the target training 🦜
Another great video! Thanks for sharing!
Oh my goodness the first half of this video was me wincing and making faces 😅 I love that these owners reached out and are trying, but also omgomgomg staaapppp! I'm so glad they took it in stride and did their best to change all the things they were struggling with.
Cute couple, beautiful bird and love all that space ...
YES! Earn the trophy! 👏👏
Awe she’s so cute :) I have a male eclectus and I think the females are soooo beautiful too 😍
Omg the touch spin she’s talking about at the beginning with target training that happens with my female eclectus!! So bizarre hahah
These are my favorite videos ❤️
Love the shirt man, Carey!!!
Canary: no stick, no clicker but by showing treat like u do, I got him to step up onto t perch on scales, he learnt so fast. he loves hemp seeds n now the ONLY way he gets hemp seed is for reward he's earnt. thanks so much for your awesome videos. I use the same words for any comand and some hand signals with the word but its been so sucessful and he is so amazing, and so clever.
This was so interesting!!
Love, love, love these videos
She is SO pretty omg
Thank you for sharing! It amazed me always - targeting looks so simple but it's not! I understand now it's a base for any further training so it should be done properly! Thank you♥️
2 against 1 Dave, it's a Jumper 🇬🇧🤭 Love you guys ♥️
Haha!!! Great training from the little I know, but such a great point about giving a trophy when it wasn’t earned, lol. I’m watching your videos in preparation for my Eclectus next month (or early November). Thanks for the videos
I must have missed the part about NOT triggering hormones. That's what I watched this almost 20 minute video for!
Loved the comment at 8:08...if you are a loser you are a loser. So true!!!
Again, exzellent video
There is a bird in the background who keeps sounding like solid snakes phone alert from the videogames lol
lol
She is beautiful! If you watch, at about 9:39, she waves. I can’t see what prompted it, couldn’t see.💞
I have an eclectus and would love to apply some of this such as your clicker to train.
The problem is down in tassie shipping will be 39$ so that’s 49$ just for some clickers, plus your toy boxes sound amazing but shipping makes it to expensive, You should like look into a store or supplier in Australia if that’s possible, Love you guys thanks for the constant upload
I don’t agree with Ekkies having to do stupid tricks. Just enjoy the wild bird in her & talk to her a lot as a family member. My Ekkie has a massive vocabulary and always speaks clearly and in context.
I NEVER handle my 15yo female Ekkie as she doesn’t want to be manhandled.. fair enough. She’s beautiful healthy never plucked and she’s in the lounge room with a cover at night so she can see & be part of all the activities.
Montreal Canadiens bro? Leafs for Life... this video still rocks!!
What are you using for treats?
Beautiful bird!
Awesome 👍
i was just watching the parrot care and routine vid and it had the cutest bandit vids! i amost cried! im just so sorry that he passed away! if i get a galah i will name it bandit!
By the way, do I need to begin as soon as I get my baby boy? Ticker training?
The thing that you said about the cage cover, is that applicable for all birds??
yes
In reference to the shirt.... a bird is a prey animal. Could that woman have stood in front of a mirror and thought, "Would my bird appreciate this image standing in front of her?"
That's an issue that I have not seen any training video address. Would clothing choices have a direct impact on the success or failure of a formal training session? I've heard of stories when a family bird takes offense at a new hat or pair of purple fuzzy slippers and starts to act out, but shouldn't we consider the type clothing we wear during times when we want our birds to be able to focus and learn?
Hehehhe at 9.35 she lifts her foot in the background when hes talking about teaching her to lift her foot!
What type of treats are they feeding them please? Anyone know
Cheers
wow she's beautiful
Ahh target training puts my Male eclectus into a hormonal state before it has even begun! Just seeing the stick causes him to start regurgitating. When I walk away from his training bubble and hide the stick from his view he will pluck out feathers and blow them at me. He just stays hyped hormonally for an extended period of time, plucking, rubbing his beak aggressively on anything he can, weaving his head back and forth etc. He doesn't bite me or anything but you can tell he is so frustrated and uncomfortable!
Kimberlee R could you target with something that isn’t a stick or does the same thing happen?
How do u get your bird to start free flying with out him/her flying away?
My eci just laid her first egg yesterday, she does have a male friend but could you do a video on how to tell if an egg has been fertilised or not please 😊
since ur an expert with birds i need ur help! i have 2 green cheeked conures that are tamed andare adorable! they love me and love playing with me and are super energetic and quite affectionate but there is an issue. They do not like being pet or scratched on the head or any physical contact.The only physical contact they like is stepping up on my finger and going on my shoulder. Any advice?
And what about the ones who don't need any hormonal triggers at all? My ekkie girl is hell bent on laying eggs no matter what season it is or what distractions I put in place. She became egg bound and her oviduct was removed, then a hormone implant went in. Her strong desire to lay kept going until she had a horrid mass of egg yolks in her abdomen. The Avian vet assures me that I have done, and am doing, everything right for my girl, she is just a prolific layer. So we keep an eye out for the telltale nesting behaviour and replace the implant as needed.
Hey, I’m getting a green cheek conure soon from a friend who didn’t have the time to take care of it. It’s wings ARE clipped and I don’t know if I should keep getting them trimmed until I can train it. I have to budgies already and they will be housed separately in the same room. If anyone has any tips or anything that they could share that would be epic. 👍
I adopted a 7 year old green cheek in February. His wings were clipped but he was able to fly quite well short distances. I've worked hardest on what I think of as behavioral training - station/recall, step up/step down and target training and I've managed several tricks as well. He's almost always quite eager to train and is very well behaved. He's fully feathered now and we are having a lot of fun together. I've adhered very carefully to permission based training advocated on this channel. Good luck!
I have a green cheek. I would recommend not letting your budgies out when the conure is out. They can be a bit aggressive around smaller birds, and their beaks are much stronger. I hope you enjoy your new friend. Just be patient with them, everything is new for them too. Lots of treats for good behaviour, and love.
Molting and getting all flighted feathers in takes a while and we are big advocates of flight. I think it also holds you more responsible for doing your training properly because it makes you really think how to get the bird to do what you want by choosing to stay with you rather than flee.
You guys must have banked out in Australia 💴💴💴. I imagine it would be tough with covid bc like most of us that rely on in person interactions for work you must have needed to alter your consultations 😩
Interesting
My bird behavior is just off the wall. He is friendly , but! Always always hormonal .. unfortunately, he is my first bird pet as far as his breed cockatiel. Pie I was told .
He is a amazing when talking and loving nature. As far as diet goes, he won't eat anything raw. I have to cook every veggie..
He loves carrots and potatoes...very fussy appetite...I thought I'd try getting him a companion, but! The breeder told me not too because he has been on his own with me since he basically came off formula.
Any suggestions on what I can or stop giving him to slow down his urge to mate???
He is definitely a loner and again very friendly also, fussy very very fussy about treats.
I also noticed any new toy I try to introduce him to, he becomes afraid and just freaks out. I don't understand why this is happening???
I end up having to give toys , expensive ones away. Any suggestions???
Would be appreciated. He is 7 years old as of today.
9:40 wave
I have a question,
Can I get a pair of Macaws (Hyacinth Macaws) and will they be able to breed and raise their own babies in captivity? I think my main question is will they lay eggs in captivity and if so will they be fertile?
We don't breed birds so I'm unaware of the answers to your questions, sorry.
Ok thanks😂
How do you stop biting? When i research i see “ let them bite you and don’t react” or “ make a loud noise “ but is there any other way?
I got some bad bites from my adopted female eclectus during the first month, but since I started to tell her "tch-tch-tch" as soon as I saw her nervous, she has calmed down and doesn't bite anymore. Now when she feels like biting she herself says "tch-tch-tch" and steps back as soon as I make the "don't bite me" facial expression ahahah.
@@GirYlla imma try that. Mine legit bit me on Christmas day in the lip
but it's cute yours is stepping back like that hehe
Do female birds have stronger hormone reactions than male birds? I don’t own bird but am looking into getting one in the near future. Just wondering if that’s true. Because from videos I’ve seen it seems like female birds have a stronger hormone reaction.
That's hard to say, I think it's more of a "bird by bird" basis than gender related. I tend to see more hormonal male amazons and cockatoos than females in those species, but in macaws I notice it more in the females... and with the eclectus specifically... probably more in the females. So I really think it varies case by case.
Jamie, With your 3 Macaws. What is the birds' weight if all feathers were off? We know what it's weight covered in feathers.
Does what they eat make feather lighter or weakers or heavier? I came across this reading talking about feather count on birds.
NUMBER OF FEATHERS AND BODY SIZE IN PASSERINE BIRDS sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/auk/v055n04/p0651-p0657.pdf
My question is feather seems to be the same size/weight all the time by just looking at them. But you can overfeed bird and in gets to be chubby?
Chubby birds seem to fly unstable.
Bahh... Very Beautiful Birds vlog shre DR fnd....👌👌👍++ > 🔔
Omg hi love the vid so I need some advice do you think a green cheek Conure, a moustache parakeet, cockatiel, dusky Headed Conure, or peach fronted Conure would be good for an apartment?
All of these birds can get pretty loud. Whether they bother your apartment neighbors or not probably would depend on the neighbors. I'd recommend going to a rescue and telling them you what your looking for, because there are individual birds that are quieter or louder in any species.
If you can't or don't want to go to a rescue maybe get a female cockatiel. I hear they tend to be quiet. Cockatiels are also less screechy then conures, so maybe the neighbors wouldn't mind the noise as much.
Probably a cockatiel or fancy parakeet would work well. I also have a Canary Winged Parakeet which can be pretty quiet.
I have a green cheek that is so quiet I wouldn't worry for a minute having it in an apartment. The trick is keeping her entertained and make sure sure is comfortable with cage time. A lot of green cheeks will scream for their person so from the start I gave her time in her cage with lots of toys. A rescue is a great idea!!
She really picked up fast
By the way she really is thinking
I can see that the birds feather condition is not that nice e.g matted feathers on the breast and stomach, is this due to hormones or poor diet or something else?
Usually in ekkies it's poor diet and over-handling (the oils on our hands mess with the oils in their feathers) and there seems to be a huge misunderstanding of the ekkie diet.
Come on works as a command my girl will say that to my boy when she wants him or say it to me when she doesn't want to come. She reminds me of my eccy but she is better behaved. However I can get her in her cage easily. My boy tho I have to trick him in and then he makes sad little noises but I can pick him up with my hands and he won't bite. I've had birds for 16 odd years and I think that my female eccy is the most difficult bird I've ever had. I would never get rid of mine I love her but female eccys should only go to males, she has bit every one of my girlfriends.
go habs!
Hay....,
Actually i want to buy your book regarding parrots.... Do you do international shipping?
Can i get your mail ✉ id if possible
Thank you ☺ in advance
Yes, you can order and have it shipped via my website here birdtricksstore.com/products/natural-feeding-system-parrot-cookbook
Lol, idk why but she, (as in the eclectus) looks sleepy
What does a Dora parrot look like
first!
Second
Keeping Jamie out of the videos lately makes my 6'3" 285lb self very, very hormonal. 🤣❤
Poor thing needs a nice shower. 🚿 🚿 🚿
OH MY GOD! I love it when he said, "everyone gets a trophy, no you're a loser!" That describes American millennials to a tee.
Lol :) I don't think the millennial kids were demanding the trophies :) I think the parents (baby boomers) were :)
@@suzithewitch Sorry, I have to disagree. Baby boomers were born between 1944 to 1964 and are currently 55 to75 old. Gen X were born 1965 to 1979 and currently are 40 to 54 and millennials were born between 1980 -1994 . If anyone is responsible for current millennials ,it's millennials and Gen X. Nice try though!
@@fiddlefaddle1 Yes, I know, I'm a boomer mysellf (turning 56 this year). My son (not grandson) was born in 92. Never once did he demand a trophy for showing up. Yet schools and sports kept giving them out. I wonder who came up with the idea of participation trophies? The kids? Are you saying the grownups aren't in charge?
@@suzithewitch No, I'm saying every bloody liberal is the reason. It's the liberal education system that's giving out the trophies. It's the liberal parents that wants the kids to have them. Get it? The liberals are the ones in charge!
Suzi the Sea Witch, Sorry, didn't mean to seem snippy. It's just my opinion. I have two grandnieces that I care a lot about and I worry about their future.
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