What does the Bible say about "modern" psychology?
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Dr. Mike Shapiro, a clinical psychologist, three ways that the Bible understood human psychology 2,000 years before the "experts" figured it out.
1) Cognitive Behavior Therapy
2) Mindfulness Therapy
3) The Health Benefits of Forgiveness
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One of the reasons I started taking the Bible seriously was the fact that it described the human condition, and human behavior so well, at least from my experience.
Absolutely.
When you realize therapists are just using God's advice
Or at least, you hope so...
Find a Christian psychologist if you're looking for one.
Unless they promot transgender. The bible says we shouldn't get piercings or tattoos. Doesn't think He would like cutting off things that shouldn't be cut off. He would rather one accepts those thing you can not change and have the wisdom to know it can't be done.
Only the good ones, because the best advice has already been invented.
Hi, I'm from philippines! Praying for christian psychologist willing to do the mission in our church, help us know and understand ourselves better in godly perspective. I believe it's a huge help to every christian as we seek answers to the questions we've been asking about ourselves.
Psychology is wonderful. Many people have been helped by receiving psychological services however as Christians we should be very weary of new age practices like meditation and such. I don't mean cause any contention but I think mindfulness would also fall in this category.
My age is 15 and I want to be a Psychologist but I doubted that I might lose my faith. Well I'm an open minded,
I always listen to others advice.
Same brother, I don't know what to do!! Did you find any answer to your question????
A Christian can't leave God as God always keeps us (John 10:28-29, Romans 8:35, Romans 8:38-39 and Hebrews 13:5).
@@OragansDAristilde_TheChristianA Christian does, however, have free will. Of course, God calls certain people to be psychologists for sure
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Yes we have freewill but we're guaranteed paradise (Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians 4:30, 2 Corinthians 1:21-22, 2 Corinthians 5:5) we shall never perish, thirst, hunger, be driven out, or die, (John 3:16, John 4:14, John 6:35, John 6:37-40, John 10:28, John 11:26) and we have passed from death to life and will not come under judgment (John 5:24). Also a Christian can't continue to sin deliberately, knowingly, and habitually (1 John 3:6-10, 1 John 5:18).
@@OragansDAristilde_TheChristian Wait so, a Christian CANNOT habitually sin? Are you saying that if you habitually sin you are not a Christian? Not trying to argue, but want to learn from your wisdom
Thank you SO much, as a fellow Professional and Christian, having my spiritual mind and practices challenged by my colleagues who appear to doubt I can tackle my emotions via my cognitive processes, this has really helped me today, thank you! Love and light Amen!
The first scripture used was incomplete and this was an immediate cause of concern for me. Luke 10:27 actually says, "And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” This was when Jesus was praising God after the 72 returned with joyous results. Jesus was then speaking privately with His disciples when a lawyer tested Him about eternal life. Jesus asked him about what was written in the law and It was THE LAWYER who replied in verse 27 (and he was quoting Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18). Jesus did not say this verse although He told the lawyer he had answered correctly. This lead into the parable of the good Samaritan. The focus was on love and "Who is my neighbor". The focus was not on "God is interested in the way I think." This is what psychology does though because at its root is humanism - which is essentially that man and his knowledge have the answer, God does not have the answer (just what the serpent told Eve in the garden). There is no way possible for psychology to bear good fruit because it is a bad tree (Matthew 7:15-19, Luke 6:43-45 explain this). Also, CBT is not biblical because it puts power in man's theories and abilities, not in Christ (Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.") CBT is dangerously close to the occultic "Power of Positive Thinking" concept by Norman Vincent Peale (the power of your mind). The renewing of our mind comes through Christ alone. Romans 12:2 and Ephesians 4:17-24 explain about how we are to be renewed in the spirit of our minds, which is the new self that has been created in the likeness of God. CBT is also a 'method', which has nearly the same definition of 'technique', and that can swiftly dive into the realm of the occult. Philippians 4:6-7 "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and pleading with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus." Be blessed brothers and sisters! Stay strong in the faith!
This is a great response to this video, I was thinking the exact same thing. However, there are times when God uses the expertise of the people on Earth to help others gain healing. God can absolutely heal anything that burdens us. However, the means to which he does this is not always directly from him. For instance, if someone has a diagnosis of a severe illness and they pray to Him for help, God may, in fact, directly remove the illness himself OR he may put a doctor that specializes in this illness to watch over your case to ensure that you are healed through the best possible care.
The same goes for mental health. Dr. Mike Shapiro listed the characteristics that christians must uphold to live a healthy life. But sometimes, we as people struggle to uphold those characteristics. God may guide you through a journey to overcome these struggles and a part of that journey may be to call you into counseling so that someone who is anointed is able to provide the help you seek.
Just because humans are better able to understand creation does not take away from the power that God wields. It is shown throughout the Bible how God uses people of varying expertise to heal others, such as in the case of his apostles. God will not anoint someone who he believes does not wield the expertise that is needed for God to do his work in a persons' life. I don't think Psychology or any science is supporting an "occult" belief but rather provides God a means of working in our lives.
I needed that 🙏
@@billycampbell2165do you therefore think there is a place for psychology?
Thank you.
Who do you think invented psychology, and science, and everything. If you're Christian, you know who invented everything.
For many years I had a good prison ministry with two prisons in Massachusetts. One of the volunteer coordinators gave me a compliment for the work I did with the inmates. I just said back to him , "well, Jesus is the best counselor in there is....after all He was the One to invent the original form in of cognitive behavior therapy."". The volunteer coordinators stopped in his tracks, and realized how true my statement was. Got him thinking 🤔. Thank you for your channel and keep up the good work.👍💗🌷🙏
Thank you so much! I have always had conflictions between my love of Christianity and my interest in science and medicine. This was a real affirmation that it is still all God. As someone who is in treatment for mental health issues, this was so helpful in pinpointing what is truly needed. With so many choices these days, that is necessary for us to be living fully in Christ.
This is awesome Mike! Such a great video resource.
The Bible indeed talks a lot about the mind, spirit and conflict with the flesh. One of the biggest verses about influencing the mind through psychology is: be transformed through the renewal of the mind. So through positive thinking, and faith (repentance) you can change your life.
Agree!
I'm so happy I found this channel and video 😭😭😭 Dr. Mike, your book "Rejoice Always" has helped me so much. It helped and is continuously helping me to have the right heart, compassion and understanding with disciples that have mental challenges. That book inspired me to become a Psychologist and use my skill and knowledge in our ministry. It also inspired me to want to write my own book in the future as well. ❤
Great practical, relevant, understandable information for both the Christian counselor and those seeking counseling. Thank you.
Psychologist here, and I have to agree. Psychology is just religion put into a scientific model. Thanks for this video!
Yes. The difference is music. I was holding in the pain that my crush hasn't chosen me. So, in a while after being with him in a peaceful event and very much together, someone puts on a sad love song and my heart breaks and my tears run all over the place. It was a painful thought, but the music induced the theme.
Christian Psychologist Doctor Timothy Jennings.
"Could it be this simple?"
"The God-shaped Brain"
"The God-shaped Heart"
These books would benefit anyone especially Psychologist. 📚
I am a psychology matter an have also seen these parallels and more, especially as it pertains to renewing your mind.
Thanks, Dr. Shapiro, for simplifying the difference with Scripture not theory. Spiritual matters must be experienced, not explained in theory.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim. 3,16
Thanks you for telling me about the Bible on which l also need to do Research
This is also one of those things you can frame as a “Sufficiency of Christ” problems: Is Christ insufficient and we need Christ + psychology? Is Christ sufficient and we need Jesus + nothing?
When it’s presented this way, it seems like the devout who really believe ought to all weigh in on Jesus side and make him sufficient without needing anything further.
The problem with this view is that we don’t forgo: water, food, medicine, education and we never ask the question can’t God feed us without going to the grocery store? Can’t God cure us without medicine? Isn’t the teaching of the bible sufficient (why should I have a math text)? God is our teacher, our provider, our healer but it doesn’t render him “Insufficient in Himself” that he cares for us through these secondary means.
Psychology, when it’s helpful isn’t proof that God can’t heal us but it’s another way in which he does heal us.
I love this!! Very well phrased!!!
Thank you ! I wish people would be clear. I am a Christian, I was healed in both way with and without therapy. I still currently am in Christian therapy but I believe God is sufficient for all my needs !!! My faith hasn’t gone anywhere.
However I do see a big difference between secular vs Christian therapist
One thing is the spritual and other thing is the carnal. I think your argument isn't fairly stated. I do believe Christ is more than sufficient for our spiritual/psycological needs. If people want to go to therapy I respect it but I think that talking(praying) to God and reading the scriptures(soul's food) is much better time spent and ultimately the only thing that can really deliver you completely from your spiritual/psycological issues. There are no therapies in the world that can help you like when the Holy Spirit works in you.
This is amazing. Thank you Dr Shapiro.
well said, the Holy Ghost only works through THE BIBLE , never through the psychology , thats why God"s Word has the power to transform the man
The Apostle Paul was talking to Christians not demon possessed souls who are slaves to sin. So you apply secular humanist theories that want to remove the existence of God to try a heal someone. Trying to Christianise those theories to make them kosher is very deceptive. People need to come to the end of their sinful selves via the cross. Bow to Christ as Lord. Then build on that foundation with the Word of God and His Spirit to renew their minds. Not on Nichie or Yung.
For Mindfulness Therapy, a good Bible scripture is “Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”
Matthew 6:31-34 KJV you can read from Matthew 6:25 to the end of the chapter too. 🤍❤️🤍❤️🤍❤️
Please upload about between what Psychology said and bible said ...i want to know this diffrentiet..
These techniques DO help a person manage their thought processes. But taken out of context, it can make it seem as if the person has autonomy and control vs. God being sovereign and able to also intervene in our well-being and health. I don't think that's what's being presented here, thankfully. We just have to be diligent to always acknowledge God's rightful place in our lives, as well as His power and involvement (Prov. 3:6).
As a Christian counselor, I can say with great certainty that much of "mainstream" psychology today is bunk, as it denies many fundamental inherent truths about reality and human characteristics that were designed by God. It often relies on group-think and secular faux science to prop up its view of people; one that views as a series of biological processes, while denying the eternal spirit, the true soul (mind, will, emotions and consciousness), and the nature of sin.
This goes further, acknowledging that even our molecular / biological structure is formed and maintained (held together) by Christ Himself (John 1:3, 10; Col 1:16-17, 8:6; Prov 20:27; Psalm 119:73; 139:13-14; Heb 4:12; Isa 44:24). These truths are fundamental to the Christian faith and permeate the Bible from cover to cover. To properly address and deal with the human mind and soul, we must balance with the practical with the supernatural; the flesh vs. the Spirit.
This was really relatable and useful
Why would you need the help of a therapist to "get you there" as you say? What about supernatural grace? Isn't God enough? We have to avail ourselves of secular disciplines?
The idea I believe he's getting at there, is that, sometimes an issue cannot be addressed well without speaking to someone else. He may assume the listener would choose a fellow believer who is also a therapist because of this context, but yeah, it would have been nice for him to be clearer on if that's what he means for sure. I agree God is the best Therapist :-)
It's good to know what's trobuling you,so you can pray to God about it.
Did you really turn the commandment into psychology? Wow
So my daughter just wasted 10 years of university studying forensic psychology, she would have learned more simply reading the bible?
How can I get personal consultation?
The music too intense
Is it OK to vent your problems to a psychologist to heal from people who hurt you cos I'm suffering in silence cos the bible states that you shouldn't gossip if you could answer this question I would most appreciate it thanks
Psychology just think we as human being can solve our problem that means we just think we can be our God, sad.
Reality check, stay grounded
Great wisdom!
You have it all wrong doc.It is Jesus who renews the mind not your training how to think.It is Jesus who said “ The mind is deceitful above all else,who can know it ,come to me I am your Physician.”There is no psychology in the bible.Psychology is a religion on its own and in opposition to the bible it doesn’t know sin,repentance,being born again or the Holy Spirit.Psychology cannot get you into heaven or forgiven it has no eternal or temporary value.No one goes to hell for OCD,PTSD,ADHD,BIPOLAR or any other so called mental illnesses they go to hell for sin.Why not name the sin in every imaginary “ mental illness” by biblical terminology such as ,greed,anger,lust,selfishness,pride,envy,jealousy,gluttony,sloth etc.,at least then you can deal with the real problem.Psychology is only describing sin by other names,it has no solution to the problems of mankind it was begun by atheists and is riddled with atheists.Pastoral Psychology? The psychology part is still the theories of atheists.Psychology is no science at all ,since when can science examine the soul anyway.As a christian you should rather stick with Jesus alone and stop wasting your time and lead people to Christ,He is the only cure and solution,He doesn’t need help,He is the help.
Thanks for your video! I'm curious that how you see an other part of psychology. I mean what do you think about psychoanalysis and hypnotherapy. There are so many fear in the christians and many of them refuse theese thinks. Of course I don't mean the occult "hypnosis" which is perfectly unscientific. You learnd about these things. You know how these things work and you see what the Bible think about these. So I'd like to know what's your oppinion about these psychological aspects. And what do you think about meditation, relaxation.
Sorry about my English, I hope You might understand what I'd like to ask . :)
Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years?
The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist.
Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on RUclips. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
and so it was being practiced after Christ?
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The Bible points to Christ, not to psychology, that is secular.
What does modern psychology say abOOt the bible???
What about when we didn't have psychologists and therapists to go to for help? You take this for granted. I guess back in the day, God's supernatural Grace had to be enough but not now.
Satan works against it by creating multiple religions and he is now bringing them together for the New world order. You will own nothing and be doomed for eternity if you don't repent!
I guess because of the overload of information as well as a lot of possibilities and opinions, people's faith might be smaller now
I chuckled at the mention of Christians who began to forgive people. Until you forgive others, you are not forgiven...
This is just not the way I see it
Funny how his "scientific " presentation and premise fits all the criteria for psuedo science. #confirmationbias #Barnumeffect
When you realize the therapist has lost it and needs meds and therapy.
When are Christians going to shift the year that Jesus died because it's 2000 years every single year we're in 2021 and I've been hearing this since I was a kid it should be 2020 something years ago now
Jesus died and was resurrected year 33 AD,so its been 1988 since then but ppl say 2000 cause its easier to round it up and thats fine
There is no Christian psychological formula that is universal.
There is no communication formula that is universal.
Each person who works with psychologists is a unique case.
The Bible can help psychology and communication.
Psychology and communication do not have formulas to help the bible that will guarantee results.
The affairs related to Heaven and Hell are bigger in complexity for psychology and communication.
Cults are simple, based on psychology and communication.
Everything about psychology and communication is not enough for the content in the Bible.
Human wisdom is foolishness to God.
GID SAID HE CAN HEAL YOU FROM ALL AILMENTS NOT SIT IN A ROOM TALKING TO ANOTHER HUMAN WHO.MAY BE MORE MESSED UP THAN YOU OR TO STAY FIR YEARS TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM. A NEW MAN WILL EMERGE AND ALL THE STUFF PSCHIATRISTS WANT ENDLESSLY TALK ABOUT, AND GOD DOESNT CHARGE
Fantastic point 🙏
Complete heresy. What the video "Psychology and The Church" and you'll understand. Psychology and Christianity are not compatible.
Why not? Just want to hear your point of view of why what humans have discovered contradicts the scripture. And how could it be heresy, my friend?
Nothing about Psychology
Sorry. I don't believe you.
Crap 😂