What to know before you build (Ep 1 - Cedar Strip Canoe Build)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this video I explain what you should know before you start building your first cedar strip canoe. I just finished building my first canoe and I liked the process so much that I wanted to build another one and document the entire build on RUclips (click here to subscribe: goo.gl/z237Hb).
Here are some of the main points from this video:
Cedar Strip Canoes are beautiful, lightweight, very strong boats. They are a fun project and they are not as hard to build as they look! Anyone looking for a long term woodworking project should consider building one!
Process:
There are three major stages to building a Cedar Strip Canoe (building the hull, applying the fiberglass/epoxy seal, and putting on all the trim and finish work). Each stage has a series of unique processes that I will be posting an instructional video for.
Build location:
Where there's a will there's a way - just remember - keep climate changes (precipitation, seasonal temperature changes) in mind and be gracious to your loved ones that have to live in the midst of your build.
Skill Level:
While it will definitely help having woodworking experience, many people have built cedar strip canoes with little to no prior experience. More important than woodworking skills are problem solving skills, an ability to learn as you go, and the stubbornness it takes to not quit a multi-month project
Tools:
Here are some of the tools I find myself using most: orbital sander, table saw, planer, circular saw, jig saw, drill, router, hand tools, chisels, etc...
Time:
It took me 6 months (about 300 hours) to build my first canoe.
Materials:
I spent about $1500 building my first canoe. Cost can vary alot depending on the quality of materials you use, tools you need to buy, and if you can score any deals on craigslist. I try to maintain quality in everything I make while also spending as little as possible.
Here are a couple good resources to learn more about Cedar Strip Canoe Building:
www.amazon.com... - “Canoecraft” is the cedar strip canoe building bible. Buy it and read the whole book before you start building.
forum.woodenboa... - This site is actually really helpful. Usually if I type a specific boat building question into google a previous forum post from the Woodenboat Forum is near the top. You can also post your own questions.
www.instructabl... - This guy (Jim Clem) made a very detailed step-by-step guide to cedar strip canoe building. There are a lot of helpful process explanations for some of the trickier parts of building. I used his blog a lot while building my first canoe.
I get my canoe building materials from Noah's Marine Supply (www.noahsmarine...)
Noah’s has great prices, customer service and shipping. I am building a 15’ “Bob’s Special” (www.noahsmarine...)
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100% well craft I just wish that my father had the opportunity to see this beautiful job of you guys,I'm very impressed,I can recognize when a young man do jobs like this with all he's heart,Thank you.may the Lord guide you and prosper you an all you do.
I helped my dad build a cedar strip canoe one summer in MIchigan in my grandad's barn. I think I was upper middle school or lower high school. It's a long process. The book you mentioned was the same one we had. This was before RUclips videos.
Non è una normale costruzione ma un'opera d'arte. Complimenti!
Thanx Guy for doing awesome stuff, I was mesmerized with the cedar canoe build vid. Shout out from Melbourne Australia
Shopvac and fitting cuffs to your palm sander will solve a lot of dusty air issues. Love this shit. I don’t know how you find the way to put your mind and other things that come up in life to have time to focus on something like this. But I wanna get there.
You've made a thing of beauty there and I particularly like the motif along the side!
Dude! You are an artist!!
The best instruct .you can get. He is on the spot. I have built one, but look how hi made it. No shit as we say in Sweden.
So glad you did these videos...I plan attempting to make one later this year.
I watched your creation and was so impressed, it's an art bro.
I studied well and I go well.
Thank you.
South Korea (MASAN)
Dang! Coolest school counselor ever. Great vides!
Haha, thanks Julian!
#1 the glue used to edge of strips should never be to dense or too spongy. You will get crappy hull shaping that no amount of sanding will fix. #2 wet sand epoxy with 3M Flexible Diamond Hand Lap( i always found them called 3M Dia-Pads). Now i see 9 different micron grades available in my MSC Industrial Supply catalog on page 927. A small trickle from a garden hose with these yields cheeper results(better to) than hunderds of $ of sand paper!! Vetern of 22 canoes.53 years experience.
I can't wait! This is going to be way cool👍
Thanks!!!
I want a 20 ft canoe
This is exciting , I have around 800 cord of cedar on my property.
this was so sick. loved it great channel.
Thanks from Brasil
3:20 well... it would be quite ironic if you had problems with shipping
Très beau boulot que ce kayak 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🍾🍾🍾🍾
Adam!!!! Where are you? We need you to build something cool for us. Let’s go!
Hey, great video and look forward to watching the whole series...subscribed! -Kyle
Thanks Kyle!!!
It seems my dream will come true，thanks guy!
Lol true
Nice use of the rule of thirds.
Black Warrior Lures haha thanks! Just checked out your channel - cool stuff, I'm subbed👍🏽👊🏽
VERY INTERESTI
NG nice skiil good job...more explore
Thanks for the great video
Couple things. First, your canoe is fantastic, very esthetically pleasing and must have been major fun. However, your use of power tools needs serious attention. Never, ever use a table saw free-hand. You have a band saw that is specifically designed to safely cut free-hand. Next, cutting thin strips; you set the fence up about 1/4” to the right of the blade and proceeded to cut the strips, trapping the cutoffs between the blade and fence, anther very dangerous setup. You need to set the fence to the right of the blade, as you did, but run the “larger” piece against the fence and generate the thin cutoff strip to the left of the blade, free to move and not get trapped as you push the “larger” piece clear of the blade with a PUSH STICK. This does require resetting the fence for each cut but setting a simple stop-block enables very quick, repeatable cuts. Looking forward to your next project!
Terimakasih
Oh and I would recommend people who want to build a canoe try to make like a model see if it floats or sinks, stuff like that. Oh also you might find something about first nations people building canoes in books about first nations!
Bamboo slats are a good idea? Thanks.
people who hate this video need to think, this is a video about safety, and if you build a canoe without knowing how to be safe you would be bandaged up by now.
Amazing video
My 1 of my goals for 2017 is to build and sail a cedar canoe. (Which probbaly wont happen because im 10 almost 11) This video is really helpfull
emojilover2006 that's cool! Even if it doesn't happen this year it sounds like a good long term goal, good luck!
Nice use of Mendelssohn mate.
Hi Adam
I just finish my first canoe witch is for my cousin. I watched all your video over and over again and it was very helpful. Thank you so much to have taken the time to document all of this. Now I'm starting another one which will be mine. For the first one, on the hull middle line, I just cut the angle of each individual piece of wood witch is very hard to find the angle. You made a chalk line and used a circular saw. I don't know witch video it was but you mention that if you would have to make another one you would not do it this way anymore. My question is how would you do it
hey man congrats that's awesome! thanks for letting me know - I'd love to see photos of yours! There's a video made by "bear mountain boats" that I watched recently where he cut the line with plenty of extra room, then worked down to the line with a chisel and planer. That way seemed a little more safe than what I did. congrats again and good luck on your next one!
How can I send you photos
Dancing Lights aguydoingstuff@gmail.com or you could tag me on Instagram
Damn you sold me on it now. Gotta build a fucking canoe now 😅
can you use these techniques to build cedar strip anything (other boats namely)?
Hello. Fantistic work!! Could you please tell me if you make training. I want to learn building small boats. Thank you !!
I've watched several of your videos on canoe building. I'm building 15 foot cedar strip canoe. I'm now fairing the hull. I'm struggling filling voids. I made epoxy mix with saw dust. West system epoxy because I use it for stem glue up and also to mount stems to the boat. I've epoxyed about 5 times. After sanding I have holes I guess air pockets. I have less and less each time. I put tape on the inside. Tried wood filler huge mistake. Any hints?
cool
Having built your canoe with buying your wood and what not of craigslist and such what do you think about buying kit form canoes. Hind sight being 20/20
rhensley58 I like the idea of going from lumber to a finished product but it just adds more steps - I enjoy the extra step but can see how other people might want to skip them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hi how many gl of resin do you used on this canoe thanks
Excuse me: How to buy a ship's layout
Do you have a Stand-up Padle Wood 14' Kaholo Project to teach me? And congrats you are a f... artist man...if you come to Brasil anytime, lets take a beer together! rs
What is the minimum tool list you’d recommend?
Hi Adam, would you happen to have a list of tools needed for this build? Id greatly appreciate knowing which routers etc to get.thank you.
rene schuster hey Rene! I've never put together a list of must have tools. I think partly because there are so many different things you can substitute for other things... when it comes to brands and whatnot I just research on google and try to get deals on Craigslist.
This may be a daft question.. But what other woods could I use if I'm based in the UK... Thanks for the videos..
You can get cedar from Robbins timber www.robbins.co.uk/marine
They also give a guide to the uses for the wood, the materials suggested for boat building should all be fine
www.robbins.co.uk/Pdf%20Files/timber_guide.pdf
Andy Smitjil guero
Andy Smith
Motor no
found what I need! but would you recommend a quality palm sander? orbital or...?
rene schuster yes! I got a festool orbital sander for my second canoe and it was a game changer. It was their cheapest model - I think it was about $200. It made a huge difference though
Thumbnail, you know he had to do it to 'em
How much does it weigh?
Well. Try bambo
Morning, could you kindly pass on the author of the book canoe craft. I can't find it online. Cheers
by Ted Moores and Merilyn Mohr
Nah... Cedar sawdust is like oxygen for me.
I want a 20 ft boat
I have not read the book Canoecraft so I can not comment on it. I built several canoes using the book Building A Strip Canoe by Gil Gilpatrick. Gilpatrick's book is detailed and easy to follow. It also includes patterns for several hull designs including the 18 and 20 foot E.M. White guide canoes. I am not recommending one book over another. I will be buying and reading Canoecraft before building my next boat.
Yeah - I've seen that book - haven't read it yet though. I'd love to know what you think of a comparison if you read both from the perspective of somebody that has built before. Seems like I pick up a couple new ways of doing things from every book/video/blog I look at about canoe building. So many weird processes that can be done several different ways. Thanks for watching - you post any pictures of your boats anywhere online?
The patterns alone are worth the price of the book. His other books are good, too. I don't have any pictures on line but I plan to start making videos soon. This gives me an idea for one, a video presentation of my canoe and kayak collection. I won't be shooting that one until the snow melts next spring.
The Garlic Farm that's awesome - is love to see it when you post it. There are a ton of canoe/kayak builders on Instagram. It's kind of cool having a community to bounce ideas off each other. Let me know if you post any videos or make an Instagram!
It's probably buried in the comments somewhere, but what was the final weight?
Johnny Virgil yeah somewhere around 60 lbs. usually it would be even lighter but I used a lot of hardwood for the decorative strip.
Ah, makes sense. When you said "Lightweight" I was hoping for something about 10-15lbs less. Thanks!
What are the router bits you use on the strips in the beginning?
Tom Murphy I think I put a link to them in the video description
Tom Murphy *on the video about milling the strips*
A Guy Doing Stuff thanks
I wonder if you could use a different type of wood (like walnut).
yeah actually i know a guy on instagram making one with walnut right now instagram.com/blueashfarm/
is it heavy?
Cooper Garvin the walnut one? Probably quite a bit more. Mine only ended up way 50-60 lbs
Would make great accent strips but i wouldn't do a whole canoe in walnut.
Hey bud. I love your canoes and I too would love to build one. Where did you get your plans? Or would you email me a copy or link perhaps? :) Also, what about a sit on top kayak?
Daniel Littleton thanks man! I got my plans from "Noahs marine" - they have kayak plans too - not sure about sit top.
Thanks man
One other question, what do you think the weight capacity would be on a canoe like this? I am a tall fella at around 280lbs. Id like my wife (a lot smaller lol) and I to go together.
Daniel Littleton I would def build a longer one then. My wife and I are just over 300 together and it performs well with us but much more than that and it stops performing well. Still floats but not as gracefully
How long was your? I saw on a website that an 18ft has around 500+ capacity.
Does the canoe hold its shape in waves
Timothy White yes it does. There’s a little bit of flex but not much
Thanks I am very inspired
Around here, Menard's is the ONLY place you can get any real cedar, Lowes and Home Depot only has crappy fence boards.
Do you sell the plans?
You can buy a book - Building a Strip Canoe by Gil Gilpatrick, it has full sized plans included in the book.
It was tight in a 2 car garage??? What ever!!! I built an 18 ft skiff in our single car garage! Now that was a bit cramped!
mike underbrink
lol
Yo estoy aquí, por un poco de todo :v
1500??????????? Wood and epoxy?? 5 gallons of epoxy and 300 yards of fiberglass and $500 on wood this is a 50ft canoe? I built my with $700
If it is still in ok CONDITION sell it and build it again sell that one then another one and sooner than later you will have a channel
AWW NEVER MIND ROB FAMILIA IS A TROLLER
I have conoe
It's good to see Woodprix have new instructions to save my money and energy to build it.
You know he had to do it to em
Yikes, 300 hours and $1500? I love building stuff, but my wife would hate me and the boat by the time it was done. Maybe I can get her to do some sanding, hmmm... better or worse?
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Bambo is much stronger than seedar
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Ha I payed 0 for wood that grows on trees and if you use tar and resin instead of your modern epoxy that also is a tree product you can literally make this from one good tree for free
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I'm sure that looks great, too.
You make a squat bad, you have to go lower ;)
What the he’ll!?!... Balat music?!.... you ruined it 👎
whats wrong with your eyes ? you look so confused all the time
haha... I feel confused all the time! It might be a combo of me memorizing lines cause I had very specific things I wanted to say and it's just how I look? I hate videos where all I'm doing is talking to the camera - I feel very unnatural talking to it.
no worries man, you are doing a great job ^^, keep it up, very original content :)
I studied well and I go well.
Thank you.
South Korea (MASAN)