Hello. After RVLoader's installed, could I still access the Homebrew Channel and normal Wii Menu like usual? Or is it a permanent install? I'm still a little confused. I'd like to try Other M and Black Knight with GC controls, but without losing emulator functionality, Wiimmfi or other things.
While this piece of software doesn’t work for Donkey Kong Country Returns, it is entirely possible to patch your ROM with a Gecko code to remap shake to a shoulder button on a Wii Classic Controller! It’s the way I played the game and it was fantastic. It’s no GameCube controller, but the Classic Controller Pro is still a very good controller in my opinion so I didn’t mind the difference.
I'd be interested to know how many of these games become playable/more enjoyable with Gecko/Riivolution patches. Especially games like Twilight Princess which have GameCube versions and therefore should be easy to mod traditional controls back in
@@traviscunningham7062On the other end of the spectrum, there are games like Sonic and the Secret Rings and Mario Party 8 (both released in 2007, by the way) that rely way TOO MUCH on motion controls.
There's also many Wii games that have motion controls has a fundamental part of it's gameplay. In fact, I'm pretty sure most of my Wii library uses motion controls in major ways. What's your point? Not every Wii game needed to use motion controls. Many were just fine with standard control.
Honestly screw usb loader gx, every time I've tried to use it with a usb drive it gets stuck on "Initializing drive" or something, wiiflow is better in every way
@@daddykarlmarx6183thats your fault for using a flash drive, that's a problem with the Wii supporting them for game loading in general, not USB Loader GX. You'll find weird problems in different apps when using them.
Some games like Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros. Wii actually have game-specific Ocarina codes which allow you to play with the Wii Classic Controller. The latter most notably is in fact included as a native option in the mod Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii!
Still don't understand why SMG2 wasn't included in the 3D All Stars collection when they could have introduced their own controls natively for it at the time.
Also kirby's adventure wii (kirby's return to dreamland) new super mario bros wii and sonic 4 episode 1 with gecko codes and both the super mario galaxy games with riivolution
You can emulate the sideways wii remote controls with a Wii U gamepad by setting the option to when you're injecting a Wii game into a virtual console app using a computer program to install on a homebrewed Wii U
3:53 Happy to see that Sonic and the Black Knight has been getting more and more love over the years! Also, these tools are really cool in general! The Wii is getting better and better each year thanks to Homebrew!
Don't know if that's a hot take or not, but motion based aiming is amazing, gyro is great, but i wish newer consoles also had sensor bars, i didn't play a lot of games on wii, but the precision in Mario Galaxy 2's aiming with Yoshi is incredible and it's a pity that this game might be stuck on the wii cause the alternatives don't even come close to replicating it.
This is exactly why we need romhacks for Wii games to support traditional controllers, starting with the ones that would benefit the most with them, like Donkey Kong Country Returns!
Weird to hear Jon call them the IR sender and receiver at the end of the video, given the sensor bar just draws power to run some IR lights (this is why battery powered sensor bars don't even connect to the console as well as why the infamous candle set up works)
What I'm really hopeful to see is really good VR Wii emulation in the future. Not to long ago a PSP emulator fork released that allowed you to play PSP games like a native VR title, it's incredibly cool and a very amazing way to experience certain psp titles. While VR PSP is really cool, the Wii would be a bigger step up since Wii games would translate perfectly into VR. Motion Controls can be emulated and translated so well into REAL Motion Controls, now you can personally box Matt in the face in Wii Sports! VR Wii Emulator development has been very rocky, and surprisingly it hasn't been necessary because it was challenging to develop. The original developer from back in the 2010s was developing in a way that others in the emulation community was against, so they eventually ceased development. Fast forward many depressing years with lack of progress and after finishing the PSP VR Emulator I previously discussed the developer decided to take a shot at Wii VR emulation. Things were going mostly smoothly, however unfortunately now that Nintendo went after Yizu (switch) and Cirta (3DS) emulation developers they got paranoid and wanted to stay on the down low for the time being, which for them meant ceasing development for the time being. Another developer that was assisting with development has decided to carry on the development, however are developing it behind the scenes for the time being without updates to the public, so we don't know how well development is progressing. Originally it was being developed for Oculus Quest, however the new developer that has taken over has decided to switch to developing for PC for the time being since that is were their knowledge is. After completion of the PC version, the PSP VR emulator says he'll be happy to return from his break to add Oculus Quest Support. I'm hopeful things are progressing smoothly, it's unfortunate that we aren't getting updates but I understand wanting to stay on the down low now and avoid Nintendo's eyes.
Metroid: Other M is such a seriously underrated game. That story was emotionally intense like few other games ever made. Pointer aiming on the Wii version of LoZTP was also super nice even if the waggle to swing controls felt awkward.
Hit one button to anticipate swing. Hit second button to swing. Different sequences do different things. Something like, A>A Forehand, B>B Backhand, A>B Lob, B>A Drop, AB>AB SMASH. Such a great feeling system! In fact, this seems very unwieldy in motion controls
In the ending section you mentioned that the Wiimote sends IR to the sensor bar, but from my understanding it is reversed, with the bar emitting IR which the Wiimote picks up from its sensor.
Yeah, there's a low resolution IR camera in the controller and the "sensor" bar is two groups of several IR LEDs spaced out (I want to say two groups of five with each group being spaced slightly unevenly 1/3/1 if I recall from looking at mine with a phone camera a few years back?). It's why you can use third party ones like the Dolphinbar on the Wii still or even other sources of IR light like a couple of candles spaced out in a pinch
Jon, your videos about weird, obscure and cool details about the Wii and Nintendo in general are a bless after a hard day of work. Keep it up, and thank you and GVB for every video.
Thanks for this. Interestingly enough, I just watched your video about how to improve the Wii's visuals by tweaking the deflicker settings in USB Loader GX and it works like a dream, even on a CRT. This just made my mission to make the Wii a much more enjoyable system that much more doable. Shoehorning in motion controls was never something that felt great on a lot of games. Donkey Kong Country Returns is one of the most annoying instances of this in my opinion when you have to waggle to roll because it just isn't intuitive enough on such a difficult game.
One of the best wiimote/nunchuck experiences was PES. Being able to drag players into space and then have a pinpoint 50yrd pass get you in behind the defence was truly amazing. None of the frustrating passing that most football games suffer from. I honestly don't think anyone talks about it enough.
For donkey Kong country returns there was a cheat code to make the game playable with a regular controller as it assign the motion controls to regular buttons
You’ve been able to map motion controls including tilt to the classic controller for years using cheat files and USB Loader GX. I played Donkey Kong Country the week it came out on a classic controller.
thankfully there are unofficial charger adapters which make it way better than manually replacing batteries, but they should've had some option to charge it with a cable that you plug in to the wii, like with what the 360 and ps3 (officially in this one's case) have
If you have USB Loader GX, Nintendont, the d2x cIOS installer, and Priiloader installed on your SD card for your Homebrewed Wii, you don’t need a Wii Remote to turn on your Wii and play GameCube games on USB Loader GX.
Hah! I went into the same rabbit hole as you Jon. I really wanted to play DKC Returns but map a button for the wagglings. I finally found a way. But you need a Wii U. I uploaded a video yesterday showing how it’s being done. And it plays great!! Gone are the waffling!
There is only one Wii game for which I wish there was a way to at least allow you to toggle off tilt motion controls. That’s Alien Syndrome. A pretty decent game which I almost loved but it was ruined by forcing an “all times” motion control that would spin the camera. It meant that it was often very hard to just sit and play it without accidentally spinning the camera while using the controls, normally. They should have put a toggle button, but they decided not to. This feature would almost be heavenly for that game, but alas there are certain times you want to spin the camera, so this does still pose a problem. Though, the auto camera, in it, isn’t that bad either.
If only their was a console that Nintendo could put Donkey Kong Country Returns on with not only button inputs and 60fps but also 1080p resolution. Though I guess there's no incentive, its not like they're making a theme park attraction based on the game of something.
I remember seeing someone decouple the Missiles in OtherM from Aiming altogether so its possible to get an even smoother experience with that one. Played with a similar layout to what you did here on Dolphin and besides the story and level design that game holds up surprisingly well even after so long.
is wild how much more playable both Other M, and Sonic & the Black Knight become when you can play them with actual controls not being able to play Rythm Heaven with the DK Bongos is a crime tho
You have how the IR works backwards. The black thing on the end of the wiimote is an IR camera, the sensor bar is a misnomer as it's just 2 IR LEDs that are visible to the camera in the wiimote. You can even replace it with 2 candles.
i love the wii remote so much i would actually use it to control my computer as a mouse as if it was a tv remote, if i had a living room btw i suggest touchmote as a program to do that to all ppl who'd like to do this too, it works perfectly fine but you have to shut it down if you want to play games with the remote, youll need a bluetooth adapter and the program will connect ur remote more easily than doing it on your own and turning the program off wont disconnect ur remote so its a good way to play more quickly games on wii u emulator, dolphin actually connects ur remote pretty quickly so you wont need touchmote if you want to play dolphin emu
Something I find really funny is the multiplayer party games in Sonic and the Secret Rings, despite the games clearly being designed for Wii remote, they actually support GameCube controller (and maybe classic controller, I’ve never had one to test). It is not advertised anywhere at all, not even on the box. Found out by accident as a kid, haha. Really interesting that they bothered to do that when the main game only supports Wii remote.
gamecube controllers work on the USBloader menu. I just autoboot to USBloader and never use the Wii controller lol. I'm really excited to watch the video, I appreciate the Wiimote, but I much prefer the gamecube controller.
@@LadiacureBones UWUVCI is the program for injecting games to play on the gamepad. For the patched ISO search for “donkey country returns patched iso” and look for the archive dot org link.
Donkey Kong country returns on wii you can replace shaking the wii remote with the B button using the ocarina cheat system, i use usbloader gx which has ocarina cheat system support, you can either load the original disc and download the cheat codes, or load from a wbfs usb or sd card
Gonna try to use this for my Wii, I’ve been meaning to finish a replaythrough of Epic Mickey before Rebrushed is released but my Wiimotes are all broken with the nunchuck slot disconnecting constantly so it would be nice to play without motion.
If GCtoWiimote could be implemented to USB Loader GX with tilt controls, then playing Sonic and The Secret Rings with the GameCube controller with all of the disabled blurry filters and with mClassic upscaling would be the perfect fix for that game, even tho the controls are pretty good on a Wiimote IMO
Muramasa and The Last Story already not requiring motion controls to begin with: "are we a joke to you?" jokes aside, the Wii homebrew community is insane and I love it
Off topic but one project that would be really cool would be If someone took a Wii and put It Inside a GameCube shell It looks like a gamecube, It plays gamecube games, It used a gamecube controller but It also has wifi and plays wii games
Such a shame DKC returns wasnt cooperating, its the first thing i thought of, im curious though, could this program work with the controllers from the nes/snes mini consoles? They use the nunchuck connector and they work for emulators on wii and the sideways wii mote is basically a nes controller, man imagine play DKC returns with a snes controller, perfection
Btw Jon can you please do a tutorial video for Fakemoute? It's been in my radar for several years but afaik there are not visual tutorials of how to install it, at least not in English, I wanted to install it on my Wii U especially to use my DoulSock 4 as a Gamecube controller alternative.
Hi John. From one NGC controller 💜 lover to another, did you know you can remap buttons on a NGC controller on the Switch using the build in re-map function? Using the 8BitDo Wii Classic and NCG Bluetooth adapter, it tricks the Switch into thinking it is an official Switch Pro Controller you have connected and therefore lets you re-map all the buttons! And yes I played the heck out of Bayonetta, Tropical Freeze, Oddysey and Crash N-sane trilogy. 💜💜💜
Oh when it comes to nunchuck shakes, they're actually two different inputs - shake is one and directional acceleration is another. Also an unpopular opinion probably but Wii and DS games adapted to more traditional controls with a bit of gyro or motion movements would make for some of the best games in history. Metroid Other M would easily be an 8/10
I played Other M on Dolphin with a DS4, and there's just no button combo that replaces the point-and-shoot missile action well enough to keep up 100% with later bosses. It gets rough.
The Wii is literally unplayable for me and others like me since I have severe arthritis pretty much everywhere in my body and need at least 5-6 joints replaced. I've known about this for a while, and it's a godsend. ...emulation still is by far the best thing to use in this case, though...
How about playing Classic Controller games with a GameCube pad via RVLoader? Examples include: • Blast Works: Build, Trade, Destroy • GTI Club Supermini Fiesta • The Last Story • Xenoblade Chronicles • No More Heroes 2: Desparate Struggle • A Boy And His Blob • Kamen Rider Dragon Knight • Toshinden • Baroque • Tetris Party Deluxe • TrackMania • Samurai Shodown Anthology
RVLoader creator here. Thanks for the video about it! Nunchuk shake is still to be implemented. I will improve it
Hello. After RVLoader's installed, could I still access the Homebrew Channel and normal Wii Menu like usual? Or is it a permanent install? I'm still a little confused. I'd like to try Other M and Black Knight with GC controls, but without losing emulator functionality, Wiimmfi or other things.
@@JinzoFiter you can use RVLoader even without installing it. Just press B on boot when it asks if you want to install it or not
@@AurelioMannara Gotcha. Thanks so much!
@@JinzoFiter it's actually better not to install it on a non-portable setup
Hi ☺️ fantastic app, any GBA support for remapping controls to GameCube controller???
While this piece of software doesn’t work for Donkey Kong Country Returns, it is entirely possible to patch your ROM with a Gecko code to remap shake to a shoulder button on a Wii Classic Controller! It’s the way I played the game and it was fantastic. It’s no GameCube controller, but the Classic Controller Pro is still a very good controller in my opinion so I didn’t mind the difference.
Yep. This is the best way to play it imo. Jon needs to check this out.
I use my 8bitdo Pro 2 with this setup. It's so bad.
I'd be interested to know how many of these games become playable/more enjoyable with Gecko/Riivolution patches. Especially games like Twilight Princess which have GameCube versions and therefore should be easy to mod traditional controls back in
It does work for DKCR you just have to set PADReadMode to bypass
There's so many Wii games where motion control is barely used, but they sill make you play with Wiimote, so it's a really interesting feature
Most shovelware in a nutshell.
@@traviscunningham7062On the other end of the spectrum, there are games like Sonic and the Secret Rings and Mario Party 8 (both released in 2007, by the way) that rely way TOO MUCH on motion controls.
There's also many Wii games that have motion controls has a fundamental part of it's gameplay. In fact, I'm pretty sure most of my Wii library uses motion controls in major ways. What's your point? Not every Wii game needed to use motion controls. Many were just fine with standard control.
Hope to see GC2Wiimote added in USBLoader GX! That way we could use discs as well as sd backups
More like pirated games off an SD card 😂
@@I-See-In-The-Dark Shhhhhhh
Honestly screw usb loader gx, every time I've tried to use it with a usb drive it gets stuck on "Initializing drive" or something, wiiflow is better in every way
@@daddykarlmarx6183thats your fault for using a flash drive, that's a problem with the Wii supporting them for game loading in general, not USB Loader GX. You'll find weird problems in different apps when using them.
@@daddykarlmarx6183 literally skill issue
Some games like Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros. Wii actually have game-specific Ocarina codes which allow you to play with the Wii Classic Controller. The latter most notably is in fact included as a native option in the mod Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii!
13:31 The IR receiver is actually on the Wii remote itself. That's why you can use two canldes in the place of the sensor bar.
Still don't understand why SMG2 wasn't included in the 3D All Stars collection when they could have introduced their own controls natively for it at the time.
Because Galaxy 2 never happened. It was a hallucination
You can play DK returns using a wii classic controller via gecko codes
Yep, came here to say this. This was actually doable around launch.
Also kirby's adventure wii (kirby's return to dreamland) new super mario bros wii and sonic 4 episode 1 with gecko codes and both the super mario galaxy games with riivolution
You can emulate the sideways wii remote controls with a Wii U gamepad by setting the option to when you're injecting a Wii game into a virtual console app using a computer program to install on a homebrewed Wii U
3:53 Happy to see that Sonic and the Black Knight has been getting more and more love over the years! Also, these tools are really cool in general! The Wii is getting better and better each year thanks to Homebrew!
I wish one day we get a fan port of Super Paper Mario on the GameCube and experience what the game could've been had it not been pushed to the Wii.
The Wii homebrew community never ceases to amaze me
i think it's beautiful that i can always tell which gvg videos are jon's before even clicking on them
Because they’re the only good ones
So true
Don't know if that's a hot take or not, but motion based aiming is amazing, gyro is great, but i wish newer consoles also had sensor bars, i didn't play a lot of games on wii, but the precision in Mario Galaxy 2's aiming with Yoshi is incredible and it's a pity that this game might be stuck on the wii cause the alternatives don't even come close to replicating it.
Interesting I wonder if any PS4 games have camera based DS4 tracking or if everything is gyro and accelerometor based.
This is exactly why we need romhacks for Wii games to support traditional controllers, starting with the ones that would benefit the most with them, like Donkey Kong Country Returns!
Weird to hear Jon call them the IR sender and receiver at the end of the video, given the sensor bar just draws power to run some IR lights (this is why battery powered sensor bars don't even connect to the console as well as why the infamous candle set up works)
Whenever Jon goes down a rabbit hole I know it's going to be interesting, love these videos exploring quirks of original hardware
What I'm really hopeful to see is really good VR Wii emulation in the future. Not to long ago a PSP emulator fork released that allowed you to play PSP games like a native VR title, it's incredibly cool and a very amazing way to experience certain psp titles.
While VR PSP is really cool, the Wii would be a bigger step up since Wii games would translate perfectly into VR. Motion Controls can be emulated and translated so well into REAL Motion Controls, now you can personally box Matt in the face in Wii Sports!
VR Wii Emulator development has been very rocky, and surprisingly it hasn't been necessary because it was challenging to develop. The original developer from back in the 2010s was developing in a way that others in the emulation community was against, so they eventually ceased development.
Fast forward many depressing years with lack of progress and after finishing the PSP VR Emulator I previously discussed the developer decided to take a shot at Wii VR emulation. Things were going mostly smoothly, however unfortunately now that Nintendo went after Yizu (switch) and Cirta (3DS) emulation developers they got paranoid and wanted to stay on the down low for the time being, which for them meant ceasing development for the time being. Another developer that was assisting with development has decided to carry on the development, however are developing it behind the scenes for the time being without updates to the public, so we don't know how well development is progressing.
Originally it was being developed for Oculus Quest, however the new developer that has taken over has decided to switch to developing for PC for the time being since that is were their knowledge is. After completion of the PC version, the PSP VR emulator says he'll be happy to return from his break to add Oculus Quest Support. I'm hopeful things are progressing smoothly, it's unfortunate that we aren't getting updates but I understand wanting to stay on the down low now and avoid Nintendo's eyes.
Now i can finally play Godzilla Unleashed
same thought
I love all of these homebrew-type videos you’ve been doing lately.
Metroid: Other M is such a seriously underrated game. That story was emotionally intense like few other games ever made. Pointer aiming on the Wii version of LoZTP was also super nice even if the waggle to swing controls felt awkward.
Finding out Mario Power Tennis was a GameCube game blew my mind. The kid in me wonders how you'd even play it without motion controls.
Yeah, I haven't played Power Tennis, but I reckon it would play significantly better with Wii controls.
Doesn’t the front cover of the Wii version say “play classic GameCube games with enhanced Wii control”?
You hit the ball with A or B. I honestly keep forgetting there's a Wii version lol.
@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa I was a child who didn't know how to read
Hit one button to anticipate swing. Hit second button to swing. Different sequences do different things.
Something like, A>A Forehand, B>B Backhand, A>B Lob, B>A Drop, AB>AB SMASH. Such a great feeling system!
In fact, this seems very unwieldy in motion controls
In the ending section you mentioned that the Wiimote sends IR to the sensor bar, but from my understanding it is reversed, with the bar emitting IR which the Wiimote picks up from its sensor.
Yes, you are right
That's the first I've heard of that 🤔, that explains then why Gyro on the switch doesn't feel quite as precise
Yeah, there's a low resolution IR camera in the controller and the "sensor" bar is two groups of several IR LEDs spaced out (I want to say two groups of five with each group being spaced slightly unevenly 1/3/1 if I recall from looking at mine with a phone camera a few years back?). It's why you can use third party ones like the Dolphinbar on the Wii still or even other sources of IR light like a couple of candles spaced out in a pinch
Yup, I remember pointing my phone camera at the sensor bar once and seeing the lights. Thought that was pretty neat.
Jon, your videos about weird, obscure and cool details about the Wii and Nintendo in general are a bless after a hard day of work.
Keep it up, and thank you and GVB for every video.
I really hope the IR sensor can somehow come back on switch 2 joycons. They can make the doc a sensor bar similar to the Wii U gamepad
I mean a sensor bar is the only thing stopping it from being on current switch
Thanks for this. Interestingly enough, I just watched your video about how to improve the Wii's visuals by tweaking the deflicker settings in USB Loader GX and it works like a dream, even on a CRT. This just made my mission to make the Wii a much more enjoyable system that much more doable. Shoehorning in motion controls was never something that felt great on a lot of games. Donkey Kong Country Returns is one of the most annoying instances of this in my opinion when you have to waggle to roll because it just isn't intuitive enough on such a difficult game.
Jon is legitimately hitting my favorite niche on youtube right now, I live for these
It feels John is in a good streak, so many videos from him... I'm loving it
Nice video! (Little info: wii twilight princess has an option to aim just with the stick. No need to map the wiimote IR)
One of the best wiimote/nunchuck experiences was PES. Being able to drag players into space and then have a pinpoint 50yrd pass get you in behind the defence was truly amazing. None of the frustrating passing that most football games suffer from. I honestly don't think anyone talks about it enough.
Omg to play strikers charged without motion controls would unreeeeeal
For donkey Kong country returns there was a cheat code to make the game playable with a regular controller as it assign the motion controls to regular buttons
You’ve been able to map motion controls including tilt to the classic controller for years using cheat files and USB Loader GX. I played Donkey Kong Country the week it came out on a classic controller.
"If it makes nintendo angry, It's what the fans want"
-idk Buddha probably
Misquoting a brazillian quote that says "Pirating Nintendo games is a moral obligation".
Jon could build a Wii from a potato and a piece of string at this point.
This has easily become the best homebrew channel on youtube.
You go, john, you're my homebrew homie.
Not being able to play Sonic and the Secret Rings is a blessing.
your intro always reminds me of the Pokemon Channel game on gamecube
The most annoying thing about the Wii Remote is it using batteries. I have to charge some batteries just to turn my Wii on and play a Gamecube game.
thankfully there are unofficial charger adapters which make it way better than manually replacing batteries, but they should've had some option to charge it with a cable that you plug in to the wii, like with what the 360 and ps3 (officially in this one's case) have
@@Spacething7474 Yeah, and I had one of those for years. It was a Rabbids one. But the wire broke so I have been back to batteries for over a decade.
If you have USB Loader GX, Nintendont, the d2x cIOS installer, and Priiloader installed on your SD card for your Homebrewed Wii, you don’t need a Wii Remote to turn on your Wii and play GameCube games on USB Loader GX.
I have mine set up so it boots to homebrew menu. So no Wii remote needed! I do have one though.
the wiimote drains batteries even when its not on so i just take em out when im not using it
We need more What's that track, Jon!
Hah! I went into the same rabbit hole as you Jon. I really wanted to play DKC Returns but map a button for the wagglings. I finally found a way. But you need a Wii U. I uploaded a video yesterday showing how it’s being done. And it plays great!! Gone are the waffling!
The 3ds version is apparently the superior version due to the extra content and lack of motion controls.
@@ultraspinalki11 yeah but it only plays in 30 fps compared to 60 fps on Wii. Also I prefer playing on my big screen.
@@tranceenergy3121 I wonder if anyone has tried porting the extra world(s) into the wii version via hacks.
@@ultraspinalki11 from the 3DS? That’s impossible
@@tranceenergy3121 or rather, instead of porting them, they're instead recreated in the wii version.
There is only one Wii game for which I wish there was a way to at least allow you to toggle off tilt motion controls. That’s Alien Syndrome. A pretty decent game which I almost loved but it was ruined by forcing an “all times” motion control that would spin the camera. It meant that it was often very hard to just sit and play it without accidentally spinning the camera while using the controls, normally. They should have put a toggle button, but they decided not to.
This feature would almost be heavenly for that game, but alas there are certain times you want to spin the camera, so this does still pose a problem. Though, the auto camera, in it, isn’t that bad either.
If only their was a console that Nintendo could put Donkey Kong Country Returns on with not only button inputs and 60fps but also 1080p resolution. Though I guess there's no incentive, its not like they're making a theme park attraction based on the game of something.
I have that Zelda Wiimote as well. My favorite one, for sure.
I remember seeing someone decouple the Missiles in OtherM from Aiming altogether so its possible to get an even smoother experience with that one. Played with a similar layout to what you did here on Dolphin and besides the story and level design that game holds up surprisingly well even after so long.
finally, most shovelware's reputations are (debatably) saved!
Ninjabread man but playable?
@@TokuWaffle yes!
although in that one's case it has ps2 and windows versions, so there already exists playable versions of it
Excellent video. More Wii content please
Is there anything Jon can’t conceive of? No there isn’t
is wild how much more playable both Other M, and Sonic & the Black Knight become when you can play them with actual controls
not being able to play Rythm Heaven with the DK Bongos is a crime tho
You have how the IR works backwards. The black thing on the end of the wiimote is an IR camera, the sensor bar is a misnomer as it's just 2 IR LEDs that are visible to the camera in the wiimote. You can even replace it with 2 candles.
if you remove the motion from a wii it's an i.
i love the wii remote so much i would actually use it to control my computer as a mouse as if it was a tv remote, if i had a living room
btw i suggest touchmote as a program to do that to all ppl who'd like to do this too, it works perfectly fine but you have to shut it down if you want to play games with the remote, youll need a bluetooth adapter and the program will connect ur remote more easily than doing it on your own and turning the program off wont disconnect ur remote so its a good way to play more quickly games on wii u emulator, dolphin actually connects ur remote pretty quickly so you wont need touchmote if you want to play dolphin emu
Something I find really funny is the multiplayer party games in Sonic and the Secret Rings, despite the games clearly being designed for Wii remote, they actually support GameCube controller (and maybe classic controller, I’ve never had one to test). It is not advertised anywhere at all, not even on the box. Found out by accident as a kid, haha. Really interesting that they bothered to do that when the main game only supports Wii remote.
I forget how I did it, but on my Wii U, I have Donkey Kong Country installed via a VC inject and gecko codes, allowing me to use the gamepad as input
If you want to play dkc returns, there is a cheatcode that allows you to remap the buttons on a classic controller
I remember being amazed that the Guitar Hero guitar let you move the pointer with its analog stick and wondering if I could use it on other games
Would be great to see this adapted to put bongo controls back into DK Barrel Blast.
gamecube controllers work on the USBloader menu. I just autoboot to USBloader and never use the Wii controller lol. I'm really excited to watch the video, I appreciate the Wiimote, but I much prefer the gamecube controller.
That’s a crazy experience!
You can use Gecko codes to allow Classic Controllers for New Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong Country Returns, and I believe Metal Slug Anthology.
Thank you John
There’s a patch for DKCR with classic controller support. I play it injected on my Wii U Gamepad. It’s amazing.
Yooo do you have a guide that I could follow to do that?
@@LadiacureBones UWUVCI is the program for injecting games to play on the gamepad. For the patched ISO search for “donkey country returns patched iso” and look for the archive dot org link.
Donkey Kong country returns on wii you can replace shaking the wii remote with the B button using the ocarina cheat system, i use usbloader gx which has ocarina cheat system support, you can either load the original disc and download the cheat codes, or load from a wbfs usb or sd card
i came across a mario party 8 mod for gamecube controllers recently pretty cool
I've been looking for this. I've seen it used on portables in the past but I didn't know what it was.
I need this so much! Love the Wii but my physical disability means I can't do the motion stuff
TMW you find out that Super Paper Mario was meant to be a GameCube game instead of the Wii
Wonder if gc controllers on gc-controller compatible wii games will ever be doable on wii u with the gc controller adapter
Do you happen to know if something like this works on Wii U Virtual Console games? 👀
Wonderful videos as always :)
Even though I don’t mind motion controls, it’s surprising to see people find a hack to play games without motion controls.
This is ideal for Web of Shadows on Wii U someday
Gonna try to use this for my Wii, I’ve been meaning to finish a replaythrough of Epic Mickey before Rebrushed is released but my Wiimotes are all broken with the nunchuck slot disconnecting constantly so it would be nice to play without motion.
damnnnnnnn now I really want a true Sonic and the Black Knight remaster
If GCtoWiimote could be implemented to USB Loader GX with tilt controls, then playing Sonic and The Secret Rings with the GameCube controller with all of the disabled blurry filters and with mClassic upscaling would be the perfect fix for that game, even tho the controls are pretty good on a Wiimote IMO
For Metroid why not put the aiming button waggle on the Z button or a trigger so you aren't taking your hands off the joystick when going into aiming
Muramasa and The Last Story already not requiring motion controls to begin with: "are we a joke to you?"
jokes aside, the Wii homebrew community is insane and I love it
This was super interesting, but yeah I agree with hot take time, ultimately. The Wi is a wonderful system!
This is great that you can do this on an actual Wii. But I know that you can do this on the Dolphin emulator and it will work with nunchuck shaking
Off topic
but one project that would be really cool
would be If someone took a Wii and put It Inside a GameCube shell
It looks like a gamecube, It plays gamecube games, It used a gamecube controller
but It also has wifi and plays wii games
Google Gamecube nano
For Donkey Kong Country you have to set PADReadMode to bypass in the games settings
Ive played it already a bit and it feels responsive
I wonder if we get to use an adapter to add keyboard/mouse support to this feature. Cursors work much better with a mouse.
Topic suggestion: Browsers on old consoles. Or, GBC as a universal infrared remote.
Such a shame DKC returns wasnt cooperating, its the first thing i thought of, im curious though, could this program work with the controllers from the nes/snes mini consoles? They use the nunchuck connector and they work for emulators on wii and the sideways wii mote is basically a nes controller, man imagine play DKC returns with a snes controller, perfection
If switch pro controller could be adapted with Gyro, could be a perfect package to allow pointer/tilt controls in games with the gyro.
Alright, tempted to learn decompilation so I can remap Secret Rings on a controller
Btw Jon can you please do a tutorial video for Fakemoute? It's been in my radar for several years but afaik there are not visual tutorials of how to install it, at least not in English, I wanted to install it on my Wii U especially to use my DoulSock 4 as a Gamecube controller alternative.
I'd liked to see the Mario Party 8 and 9 minigames ported to GC controllers
For sonic and the black knight do you hit a wall at the cave mission where you havd to light crystals
Take a sip every time he says super mary-oh. Have a good time
I agree, the wiimote is great.
Hi John.
From one NGC controller 💜 lover to another, did you know you can remap buttons on a NGC controller on the Switch using the build in re-map function?
Using the 8BitDo Wii Classic and NCG Bluetooth adapter, it tricks the Switch into thinking it is an official Switch Pro Controller you have connected and therefore lets you re-map all the buttons! And yes I played the heck out of Bayonetta, Tropical Freeze, Oddysey and Crash N-sane trilogy. 💜💜💜
Oh when it comes to nunchuck shakes, they're actually two different inputs - shake is one and directional acceleration is another.
Also an unpopular opinion probably but Wii and DS games adapted to more traditional controls with a bit of gyro or motion movements would make for some of the best games in history.
Metroid Other M would easily be an 8/10
Personally, I feel Other M's gameplay has more issues than the forced Wii controls. But that simple change is still an improvement regardless.
You can play DKC Returns with a Classic Controller using game shark codes.
I hope some Kinect games get the same treatment, for example Sonic Free Riders without Kinect
Donkey Kong country returns has a direct patch for the game that removes the motion controls.
I played Other M on Dolphin with a DS4, and there's just no button combo that replaces the point-and-shoot missile action well enough to keep up 100% with later bosses. It gets rough.
Can you do this video again with the dual shock 4 controller? Is DS4 good for MOM?
The Wii is literally unplayable for me and others like me since I have severe arthritis pretty much everywhere in my body and need at least 5-6 joints replaced. I've known about this for a while, and it's a godsend.
...emulation still is by far the best thing to use in this case, though...
you should check out the metroid other M mod that was made so you can fire missiles in third person that makes the game way better and more playable
How about playing Classic Controller games with a GameCube pad via RVLoader? Examples include:
• Blast Works: Build, Trade, Destroy
• GTI Club Supermini Fiesta
• The Last Story
• Xenoblade Chronicles
• No More Heroes 2: Desparate Struggle
• A Boy And His Blob
• Kamen Rider Dragon Knight
• Toshinden
• Baroque
• Tetris Party Deluxe
• TrackMania
• Samurai Shodown Anthology
We’re you able to get past the tilt mechanics in other M?
I remember tilting the shit out of the Wiimote in that game