What Does Disperser Actually Do?
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What Does Disperser Actually Do?
Great explanation, Dash! ❤
I love you guys
Dash must be both wet dream and nightmare of any dev lol, dude goes deep
A really great explanation. Truely!
So are you guys gonna attach a phasescope to it ;P
Legends. Thank you for the free bundle, everything a broke producer needs
Disperser has been a secret weapon for movies and video games sound design for years. You can make sounds that are out of this world by just stacking them, I use it all the time! You get a lot of scifi stuff if you mix Disperser with distortion and heavy filtering
There is also another VST which is EXTREME called "Diopser" which you can also decide how many filter passes you can do, and it goes up to 500 ahah. But I use the Kilohearts stuff EVERYDAY and I always tell people to buy their stuff, truly game changer
I had no idea people were using multi-band processors like this. Super interesting, thanks.
Wow, is that your voice over? Dude...DUDE 😍😍😍 And hell yeah, I can't wait to learn what this does!
Yea it's me with some FX :) Thanks!
@@DashGlitch man, I would love to do audio plays collaborations with you some day
This say the kilohearts side :
Magic All-Pass Filter
Have you ever wanted to rotate the phases of your signal to create frequency sweeps? Funny, neither had we, but then we tried it and were blown away! Disperser smears high energy transients through space and time without modifying the gain of the sound.
The result is a different take on transient shaping or, when used at extreme settings, an effect capable of shaping the sounds in ways you didn’t know you wanted to do. Boomy kicks, snappy hihats, synthetic wet basses or just a sweet utility to shape your signal's peaks and crest factor. The choice is yours!
cooles intro . Hat dir kilohearts etwa die Hardware geschenkt , zum filmen ? Ich kenne nur die VST version für die DAW .-(
Die stimme ist im Video ist 1a, wie von den "TvShows"
I check the disperser in my setup and it is a wunderfull plugin- what is the trick, disperser not for all lines ready to make made. I meaning , disperser in all channels. The plugin is nice, very nice . it looks like a Lowshelf , but it is it not.
I put it on Bass , drumset,picklute3,sinevital etc and it makes it better then before. some % better, but ............................... I wish (lol) the video comes earlier. Yet I have a hour freetime, but I still waiting . THX for the Trailer .
Waaa, thanks for that explanation. Damn you for the "cliffhanger" though.. 😅 Looking forward to see your usage of the disperser in prod.
Best explanation of Disperser I have seen. Thank you!
At first I was like "the sound of multiband? that doesn't make any fucking sense" but then I was like "ooooohhhhhhhhhh"
i love what disperses does to even a simple kick. it creates that cosmic punch i was looking for lol
Wow dude, that is actually amazing!!!! I remebering sitting there and try to recreate samplepack basses in serum with just the amount of harmonics and their phases. Didn't worked out that well haha.
Thanks alot mate!!!
Keep it up!
This earned a subscription. I love how well you explain things. I watched a couple other videos on Disperser, and yah, I mean, at best I found people saying it's "an all pass filter" and/or "changes the phase". Some were just simple "it makes things sound better." I don't typically need to know the science behind something, but your explanation was much more thorough and it actually is going to help me understand how to use this plugin properly, so thank you. I actually hadn't heard of the plugin until watching ComTruise use it on a kick.. and I am not sure if even he explained it well (if so, I may have just glossed over that), but I just took it as "magical tool, makes kick sound better." Time to apply this to other stuff.
I know this was about Disperser, but Plugin Doctor just blew my mind ! (wow - I want to look at everything I like to use with it!)
Very nice to see you explain the science behind it. Very comprehensible and concise, I definitely understand it better now. Next time I apply Disperser, I won't just be screwing around! Looking forward to more videos like this. Keep them coming!
this is incredible, this video feels like a production secret!
Top quality content. Thank you for explaining this.
Really interesting, in depth video! Thank you for taking the time to make it.
Hey Dash, nice video. I use the plugin now and again on my basses but was never quite sure what it was doing, so this video cleared up my wondering.
Great work!
Plugin Doctor never gets enough spotlight for what it does
I was using multi-band processors or all pass filters to get that effect on the bass, didn't know about disperser thx for explanation
very well explained. could be easier with Volcano 3, becuase what you see (within plugin doctor) is only a split made by an all pass filter. you get phase shift with no frequency shift.
it makes watery
Great video! I wanted to point out that you used the term "linear" several times in this video to refer to things being a straight line. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that in DSP the term has a different meaning. Perhaps going forward it would be better to make sure that you're clear about which definition you're using.
I sometimes use Dispersaer to phase align my kick and bass.
I learned to do it from your tutorial brother 🙏🏻
Nice video! Great explanation 👍
Wow i kinda just gave up with this plugin lol
Im gonna use it again
This was great, thanks Dash!
I disagree that just processing this way solves phase cancellation with the kick. The fundamental is still contained within the signal and if it is at 180 to the kick it will cancel, I think
Try it, in today's video I will go a bit more in detail, showing that you can further split the fundamental - but one thing you will notice is that it's almost offsets the fundamental in a similar fashion - resulting in a similar effect with almost any kick drum. You're also much less likely to hear the result of phase cancellation when the partials have offset phases, as only 1 partial band will be affected and our ears will rarely perceive that.
Of course shaggywould be a producer after retiring from catchies baddies
the only problem i discover with the "bandsplitting phase rotations" are; how u wanna tell that the sound is actually superb and does not just sound superb on your monitoring which pretty much has phase rotation on the output. so u could use mixcubes or headphones (but then the sub is missing). u actually need a monitoring with linear phase response to precisely hear what u are actually doing. HEDDs with lineariser give me that confidence.
I guess that applies with anything related to sound, any decision you make will be coloured by your room/acoustics/speakers. I use Sonarworks for room/headphone correction, works wonders - especially if you already have acoustic treatment
@@DashGlitch yeah man of course that is true. but the thing with the phase rotation is not just such a thing as "colouring". its really a psychoacoustic masking effect going on. though our cochlea seems to able to preceive the phaseposition of diffrent harmonics resulting in theese timbres we love so much for bass.
of course i use sonarworks too. i tested every room correction software and methods outthere on several diffrent speakers in diffrent studios. i built many studios up to date. so i had the chance to hear many diffrent speakers in nice treated rooms. i was using bandsplitting since years as a subtle effect on basslines- subtle becasue my yamahas back when i discovered this, only showed a subtle effect on the bassline - guess the speakers were so bad that ears couldnt hear whats going on with the sound when bandsplitting the signal, the whole bass area in some speakers seems to be a phase smear festival. i mean this is a topic a few years ago nobody would have talked about and never seemed relevant before. at least not for conventional stuff like rock music. but this phaseporn stuff is clearly revolutionizing our sounddesign. so with that comes the "revolution" of monitoring. and most speaker manufacturers are really working on that! and yes i am aware that P.A System probably are not able to play linear phase response anyway ;)
greetz
Great explanation, thx man! cheers
You could also say ''If that makes sense'' : D : D, but still good decision! :D Nice Intro.
Awesome
pinch is nice if you process highend percussion
11:15 so if you pitch the saw wave low enough it will effectively turn into a repeating kick?
Kinda, it won't sound as snappy due to the nature of wavetables, but the concept is there
Phaserotation is almost inaudible as long there is no cancellation.
I can only imagine dispenser being non-linear, so the linear analysis on plugin doctor won't give you any useful information.
Its definitely audible, it delays the low frequencies compared to the highs, this creates a lazery effect that this plugin is known for. Plugin Doctor tells you exactly which frequencies are rotated and allows you to either counteract it, or recreate the exact effect in other plugins. Very useful.
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Great intro hahah
I love it when you talk nerdy to me... 🤓
I put it on my led vocal and it kind of acts like a de-esser
That's crazy because there's no dynamics processing, interesting tho thanks
An all pass filter?
32 all-pass filters
@@DashGlitch Ooh, cool I look forward to seeing what you do with it.
There is a free allpass filter on github that makes the same effect. Is like glue all the sounds and sounds less raw on headphones.
i only found the all pass phase plugin... do you have a direct link ?
or is it the same maybe ...
@@Nenko_Music probably the same, I'm checking
@@Nenko_Music is from enum music
MFreeformPhase
Nice video brah; that plugin Dr seems very useful. I thought Disperser acted like a low pass filter because I used to low pass a kick but also moving the frequency that were cut, and that produced a very similar sound to what Disperser does. What do you think of what I wrote... I'm certain in what I'm saying or it's has nothing to do with the topic?
Glad you had a two day wait just to gas up the next video
Old boomer here , I used to make stuf like these in reaktor , pure data 10-15 years ago .
Now the magic is gone because all these effects are for grabbing .
Sure :)
Disperser is easy to be replaced in Bitwig :)
disperser is many multiband-2 in row
basically
I was told by an audio engineer that phase rotations should be avoided at all costs, since they kill headroom and make the signal sound like it's coming from a different room compared to the rest of the mix
People for some reason seem to believe that best practices from mixing a church choir translate to for example dnb. They don't.
Then they will use an EQ which does the same thing
@@orbitfold Right ... people say clipping should be avoided at all costs and then ignore all of rock and metal music as if that isnt literally a prerequisite to it.
@Cody Braden Right the truth is in the nuance. The point was ... as you seem to have missed it. That making broad sweeping generalisations is almost always not useful.
You hear phase differences in real life but people are not analyzing it. Phase issues does reduce headroom but all that matters in the end is if it sounds good or not.
You gotta make a tutorial on your video vocal chain lmao please
hehe legendary intro :D
really helpful vid cheers Dash
Nice! What about the Kilohearts Phase Distortion plugin? Is it similar to the Disperser?
No it's not
can you do a 2nd Sense Audio Engineering Filter ?
Sure, just use any EQ
if you fast forward 5 seconds everytime u sound from sweden
just searched youtube and found out.. bit of an own goal this premiere thing :D
And so it came to (band) pass…
Lulu Dallas, multipás 😅
Kiliohearts describes it as an allpass filter. I've also seen Mr, Bill recreate the phase differences with multiple 3 band EQs in Ableton. The end result is I'm still confused about this plugin. To be honest it seems a little like a cliche sound at this point that may be overused.
Perhaps you skipped the video and went straight to comments? I explained what disperser is and what it attempts to recreate sonically. It's a multiband simulation, without the effects (think fabfilter saturn without the saturation). I wouldn't call something cliche'd if 90% of people don't even understand what it is, including yourself. The word means "overused", let's maybe talk about some of the companies who release the same processes over and over again with new fancy GUIs.
@@DashGlitch wow..wasn't being hostile and definitley didn't skip the video. I watched it multiple times and then went to the online manual- which is where I got the all pass description. I wound up at your video after watching Mr. Bill recreate the same sound with multiple 3 band EQs and was looking for more clarification. Not going to comment on the overused portion again as I didn't mean to disparage the plugin or anyone using it. I'm sure my lack of understanding is my own issue.
you say like 20 000 words in 12 min.. relax.. breath.. go to the point
Sadly people loose interest on anything technical over 10 minutes, so editing helps to cram words in
@@DashGlitch I watch videos on 2x speed! saves a lot of time and with your speed.. It's AWESOME!
Btw. Good explanation! especially when you showed the comparison with the multipasses x 10 .. This really makes sense now
Lilo Dallas, Multipass.
Awesome