JESUS MAN!! YOU SHOULD BE IGNORED, CAUSE YOU USED GLOBE MATH!! IT WAS PROVEN TO YOU!! YOU WERE NOT THROWN AWAY< CAUSE DUFFY SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING... FE ENTRY WILL BE ACCEPTED :d
@@willdavis5636 please tell me the names of the controllers. Not some broad agency or entity, but actual people. You people are losers who just want to feel like you have special information that others don't know about
The challenges were completely loaded questions. Duffy was like i need to see the measurement of the firmament curvature, how about Duffy shows us a measurement of the earths curvature
@@jd1677 He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km. He is obviously a scammer trying to sell e-books, as you can see in his youtube and facebook page.
He asked because the participant gave actual numbers for the firmament, so he is only checking the source of those numbers (which he took from the so claimed radius of the earth). But why can't you show measurements of the firmament? A very common question we see is "show measurement of the curve", so why the question "show measurements of the firmament" is not endorsed by you?
@@wideotekatwilight Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
@@Sqort-em7or there is only one sun. Every observer has their perspective relative to them. For example Polaris is a gold example. If will appear lower when you walk away from. Lowering in your perspective by 1 degree every 69 miles you move away
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology Interesting. That math is exactly what a globe Earth predicts. 1 degree of curvature every 69 miles for a circumference of approximately 24,850 miles.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmologyEstas olvidando que Polaris debe ser la estrella más alta en el firmamento. Por ende, en una Tierra plana nunca se vería cerca del horizonte.
What? Sorry but this does NOT prove FE, and I'm a flat earther. This is embarrassing. It could ONLY work if a person was standing at one spot on the ice wall, and seeing the sun make a little local circle around him, not going dark while the sun is way over 1000s of miles on the other side of the fe.
No. The sun is refracting on the reflective dome around the regions of Antarctica. It's really awesome. Watch his videos to understand. #FlatEarthforever.
Is this a parabolic dome reflection? Repeating along the great circle with the west to east ? Very impressive illustration. Perhaps you can draw the LINE showing the path direction from the SUN source of light?
Thank you for your work. A couple questions I got: 1) How is that Sun doesn’t hide over the horizon when viewed from the farthest point of the circle? 2) What is your take on pre-Copernican (Ptolemaic) Armillary sphere? Have a blessed day!
It's because it's an apparent reflection of the sun behind a super fluid medium below the reflective dome. That's why the Antarctica sun always looks so much different than the sun observed anywhere else.
@Flat_Works that's possible. I did that experiment in my kitchen with my children in the glass bowl. .. But also think it's highly possible that those guys just sold themselves out. And when Jaren came on that video he didn't look like somebody who was humbled he looked like somebody who was lying.. just my opinion right now it could be wrong
yeah this model is stupid and makes no sense. I think they are lying and those two FEs are controlled opposition. But the truth will come out at some point anyway. it could have been done this summer in the northpole and they are releasing it now. The earth is flat, no doubt. They cannot fool me.
Can you please explain not only how we observe the "sun," but also how we feel the heat and get sunburn, etc., with an apparent sun model. Also, plants seem to also react to the apparent sun and not the original source, (although there do not seem to be any plants in Antarctica).
There is no “apparent” Sun. Only the single, actual Sun is observed, exactly where it should be. The only explanation is… The Earth is a globe. It’s as simple as that.
That's great news well done,I have been wondering if this location is actually where they say it is as Vanson Mountain was named after a scientist. You can see a 24-hour Sun in December in places located within the Arctic Circle, such as northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Alaska, and parts of Canada. New Subscriber!
Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?
@@BrickWilbur2020 They are lying to you, this is the explanation. Both this channel and this Alonzo guy is pushing courses, e-books and apps through a series of distorted lies about TFE. He was the only FE submitter for the 3 FE predictions challenges, so he "won" the Flat Earth submissions. He used globe numbers (like radius) in his submissions, btw. And 3 globers won the 3 globe predictions challenges. As my other comments states: "Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?" "He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km."
@@guidourados Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
@@jd1677 I find it amusing globetardia claims to have sent a space probe to the sun to confirm the physical ball of fire nuclear fusion or whatever fiction you want to call it to explain your beliefs 🫡 touché
It is summer in the Antarctic. Means sun is in Capricorn while following the ecliptic in the sky. These two factors should make up the main parameters on the movement of the sun in your animation. Correct me if am wrong but the sun I. Your animation is way below Tropic of Capricorn.
Weird. So there is one big sun circulating on a plane earth and one small one locally? Or what this the physics behind it, please elaborate or refer me to a qualified link. Thanks.
@@Alex-d3b4d I'm the developer of the model. The large Sun is the only physical Sun located at the Solar Zenith. As it shines through the Firmament dome refraction causes us to see all celestial objects through our own perspective. Everyone sees objects different. So if we plotted multiple observers there would be two smaller Suns. Just like Polaris and how it's declination is 1 degree every 69 miles we move away from it despite its physical altitude never changing.
This doesn't explaina nything. Why would an observer in Antartica, see the, that is above Mexico, in the opposite direction as a sun above China, even tho they woul be in the same direction of the observer? It is basicly the same angle of incidence.
So what was the average AIRSPEED of the 4hour flight from Chile to Union Station?? Spinning Globe ----> -53 degrees latitude at Chile, South America ----> 780mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 780mph with the GROUND there in Punta Arenas??) Spinning Globe ----> -80 degrees latitude at Union Station, Antarctica ----> 180mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 180mph with the GROUND there at Union Station??) So the Airport at Union Station is supposed to PHYSICALLY be moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....than the Airport at Punta Arenas only 4hours away. How does an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West....then fly dead South towards an Airport and snow and mountains moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....and even be able to land?? How do you SLOW DOWN an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West...to a mere 180mph to the West...so it can line up with the Airport runway moving 180mph to the West (600mph SLOWER) than the one it took off from just 4hours earlier???? Please tell everyone how this is possible in the real world. I mean if you really were on a spinning ball in Punta Arenas moving 780mph to the West...on the runway before take off....and 4 hours away dead South was another runway moving 600mph SLOWER.....and you take off get up to say 500mph and keep that speed.......oh dear Lord this has now gone into the realm of Make Believe. Can anyone from TFE please tell me how to make this work in the real world??
“Dr” David. I didn’t get a chance to see the flight on FR24. Do you have the flight number? How long did the flight take? If the distance from Punta Arenas is approximately 1870 miles, then simple division should do quite nicely for an approximation of the average speed. Allowing for ascent and descent would be even better.
Some people just doesn't have a brain for physics. Yes, the air has basicly the same speed as the ground, otherwise you would constantly experience wind. The air plane has always a certain velocity relative to the air. Yes, it does slows down its westward speed. (by the way, this is an acceleration of 600 mph / 4h = 0.73 inches/sec² ..damn freedom units... or 0.0185 m/s²... or 0.0019 g ) But imagine this: You have a giant pool (lets say 10 meters (30 feet) in radius), that is rotating at 10 rpm ( so, the rim has a speed of about 10 m/s ). Would a swimmer, that starts from the center, would have trouble to reach a ladder on the edge of the pool?
Flat-Earth prediction? Really? Point me to where I can hear a flerf who predicting the altitudes of the Sun above the horizon with corresponding times. I’ll wait. LMAO! 🤣
@@jd1677 Walter Bislin’s model in 2017 was the first animated model to predict it. A model made by a globe proponent to try and falsify FE. The guy who made the video of this post is a flat earther who won all 3 of Will Duffy’s TFE challenges. He’s also the developer of the firmament trackers app that predicts the phenomenon as well.
@@josephhanvey5891 And I hope this doesn’t get me banned, but I’d still like to hear the explanation of how an equatorial mount works on a flat Earth, particularly South of the equator. A video would be super awesome for flat-Earth astronomers.
@ I’m planning on doing that one night soon. However it’s quite simple. They demand the earth be horizontal. There is no other way for them to work properly without a horizontal plane of reference to wrap a grid system around.
OMG, this is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Wow, you guys really were dropped on your head as kids
This matches all of their observations.
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Ad hominem attack from globe worshiper. Again.
Sorry i dont understand your comment youtube doesn't translate hebrew
@JournalofGeocentricCosmology
What is the reflective surface and why don't we see 2 Suns when the reflection is south of Antarctica?
Superb visualization thank you very much. Now I understand why they pick this timing to go down there it was all set up but the controllers.
"The controllers" please provide evidence of this other than "trust me bro." List the controllers, name them.
What an ignorant statement! If someone has to ask who the controllers are it's pointless even continuing with them. Good luck smart guy@@MotownModels
JESUS MAN!! YOU SHOULD BE IGNORED, CAUSE YOU USED GLOBE MATH!! IT WAS PROVEN TO YOU!! YOU WERE NOT THROWN AWAY< CAUSE DUFFY SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING... FE ENTRY WILL BE ACCEPTED :d
@@willdavis5636 please tell me the names of the controllers. Not some broad agency or entity, but actual people. You people are losers who just want to feel like you have special information that others don't know about
The challenges were completely loaded questions. Duffy was like i need to see the measurement of the firmament curvature, how about Duffy shows us a measurement of the earths curvature
@@kingovredcar3090 I'm Steven. I was still able to show my math for why the Flat Earth model is accurate.
Will you share it with everyone, please?
@@jd1677 He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km. He is obviously a scammer trying to sell e-books, as you can see in his youtube and facebook page.
@@guidouradosI was referring to Steven’s math.
He asked because the participant gave actual numbers for the firmament, so he is only checking the source of those numbers (which he took from the so claimed radius of the earth). But why can't you show measurements of the firmament? A very common question we see is "show measurement of the curve", so why the question "show measurements of the firmament" is not endorsed by you?
Is this a debunk or a bunk? I'm getting confused :-))
Epic footage by Dave. It will live forever.
Definitely debunks flat-Earth. They made no “predictions”. lol
@@pwmiles56 this has confirmed the Flat Earth model.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology MODEL DO NOT EXIST!! AE MAP IS DEAD!! TFE JUST DEBUNKED IT :d
@@wideotekatwilight Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
What is the mechanism that determines that the sun is going to do 24hr appearance... Why is the 24hr behavior not seen at the equator?
This guys attempt is not as good as your attempt Joe.
Reality is becoming clearer and more fascinating with every factual observation. It's cool as sh*t to be alive right now.
So is that Sun a duplicate Sun, or is it THE Sun? I'm confused by the bit where there are TWO Suns joined by a piece of string. How does that work?
@@Sqort-em7or there is only one sun. Every observer has their perspective relative to them. For example Polaris is a gold example. If will appear lower when you walk away from. Lowering in your perspective by 1 degree every 69 miles you move away
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology
Interesting. That math is exactly what a globe Earth predicts. 1 degree of curvature every 69 miles for a circumference of approximately 24,850 miles.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmologylol, liar
Simplemente no funciona. No tiene sentido.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmologyEstas olvidando que Polaris debe ser la estrella más alta en el firmamento. Por ende, en una Tierra plana nunca se vería cerca del horizonte.
What? Sorry but this does NOT prove FE, and I'm a flat earther. This is embarrassing. It could ONLY work if a person was standing at one spot on the ice wall, and seeing the sun make a little local circle around him, not going dark while the sun is way over 1000s of miles on the other side of the fe.
So this model assumes 2 suns? Just curious..
No. The sun is refracting on the reflective dome around the regions of Antarctica. It's really awesome. Watch his videos to understand. #FlatEarthforever.
Is this a parabolic dome reflection? Repeating along the great circle with the west to east ? Very impressive illustration. Perhaps you can draw the LINE showing the path direction from the SUN source of light?
Thank you for your work. A couple questions I got: 1) How is that Sun doesn’t hide over the horizon when viewed from the farthest point of the circle? 2) What is your take on pre-Copernican (Ptolemaic) Armillary sphere? Have a blessed day!
The sun in that video looks kind of fake and glitchy sometimes. Maybe just cuz it's a time-lapse
We will be getting more footage. The background mountains absolutely everyone's live streams.
Is a reflection of the real sun, nada knows that that's why they don't upload to many videos on their website about the antarctic 24 hrs sun,
It's because it's an apparent reflection of the sun behind a super fluid medium below the reflective dome. That's why the Antarctica sun always looks so much different than the sun observed anywhere else.
@Flat_Works that's possible. I did that experiment in my kitchen with my children in the glass bowl. ..
But also think it's highly possible that those guys just sold themselves out.
And when Jaren came on that video he didn't look like somebody who was humbled he looked like somebody who was lying.. just my opinion right now it could be wrong
@No1LikeYahuah I’ve watched it several times in 4K and see no glitching whatsoever.
How can one travel through the dome to end up being under it?
yeah this model is stupid and makes no sense. I think they are lying and those two FEs are controlled opposition. But the truth will come out at some point anyway. it could have been done this summer in the northpole and they are releasing it now. The earth is flat, no doubt. They cannot fool me.
Can you please explain not only how we observe the "sun," but also how we feel the heat and get sunburn, etc., with an apparent sun model. Also, plants seem to also react to the apparent sun and not the original source, (although there do not seem to be any plants in Antarctica).
There is no “apparent” Sun. Only the single, actual Sun is observed, exactly where it should be.
The only explanation is… The Earth is a globe. It’s as simple as that.
@@jd1677No its flat and these people are lying. It could be that they are at the northpole. I dont trust any or them. someone is lying here.
That's great news well done,I have been wondering if this location is actually where they say it is as Vanson Mountain was named after a scientist.
You can see a 24-hour Sun in December in places located within the Arctic Circle, such as northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Alaska, and parts of Canada.
New Subscriber!
…name a city in the northern hemisphere that you can see a 24h sun during December. I think you mean 24hrs of no sun?
Cool how flat earth won all 3.
Please explanation needed
Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?
@@BrickWilbur2020 They are lying to you, this is the explanation. Both this channel and this Alonzo guy is pushing courses, e-books and apps through a series of distorted lies about TFE. He was the only FE submitter for the 3 FE predictions challenges, so he "won" the Flat Earth submissions. He used globe numbers (like radius) in his submissions, btw. And 3 globers won the 3 globe predictions challenges.
As my other comments states:
"Do you know that it's about this FE submitter winning the FE submissions predictions (and he was the only one that submitted something in all 3 categories for FE), right? Which means 3 globers won 3 of the globe predictions submissions. Are you part of the lie or being lied to?"
"He shared. Wolfie (an airline pilot) used his "math" to calculate a flight route, and between two airports 10 miles apart his math gave 2800km."
@@guidourados Globie and reality denier wastes over $500,000 and the sun produces No spin and No curve of said spinning ball. One of the biggest failures of the Helios globe religion.
@@FlatWater588 Part of the lie it is! U go on and do your mega job my man, scam the rest of this community, sell the app, e-books, push everything.
Hahahahahaha. This must be a joke.
Not nearly enough explanation by OP. I'm a Flerfer, the graphics are quite obv BS, law of perspective completely ignored.
Are there 2 suns. And Does it's reflection have sun spots . The Light is So bright and it cannot replicate or mirror sun spots.
Earth is a Globe
Yes!! I was so sick of hearing from the ppl who were dissappointed. I'm thrilled!!!!
This is absolutely ridiculous. The sun is not even following the map anymore. You got it all over the place. Stop with your lies and accept defeat
I find it to be amusing, although it’s a bit worrisome that anyone would actually buy into it. 😂🤨
Your floor will always be flat, water finding its level and no curvature can be detected 🤷
@@jd1677 I find it amusing globetardia claims to have sent a space probe to the sun to confirm the physical ball of fire nuclear fusion or whatever fiction you want to call it to explain your beliefs 🫡 touché
What happened to the dome?
Nice one.
Very cool 🤩👍
Why are the sun and moon circling the Pacific?
If they were doing that, how would they be observing a 24 hour Sun in Antarctica and no Moon?
And At That Last Portion we have to observe then 2 suns at that point in Antarctica, so why not seen ?
Joseph”s sun count is rightfully jumping like a 🦘 lol amen
It is summer in the Antarctic. Means sun is in Capricorn while following the ecliptic in the sky. These two factors should make up the main parameters on the movement of the sun in your animation.
Correct me if am wrong but the sun I. Your animation is way below Tropic of Capricorn.
Weird. So there is one big sun circulating on a plane earth and one small one locally? Or what this the physics behind it, please elaborate or refer me to a qualified link. Thanks.
Reflection
@@Alex-d3b4d I'm the developer of the model. The large Sun is the only physical Sun located at the Solar Zenith. As it shines through the Firmament dome refraction causes us to see all celestial objects through our own perspective.
Everyone sees objects different. So if we plotted multiple observers there would be two smaller Suns.
Just like Polaris and how it's declination is 1 degree every 69 miles we move away from it despite its physical altitude never changing.
Is not the real sun that's why it looks fake and glitchy
It's a reflection off the dome at that angle.
@@JournalofGeocentricCosmology And a billion observers would generate a billion smaller Suns?
Is this Walter Bislin's model?
Flat earth confirmed thanks will.
It’s a house of mirrors
sun glitches out too much in the timelapse
Maybe because is a reflection of the real sun?
It's a 60 second timelapse but they have over 100TB so terabytes of data they are bringing back. Can't upload it all from Antarctica.
This doesn't explaina nything.
Why would an observer in Antartica, see the, that is above Mexico, in the opposite direction as a sun above China, even tho they woul be in the same direction of the observer?
It is basicly the same angle of incidence.
So what was the average AIRSPEED of the 4hour flight from Chile to Union Station??
Spinning Globe ----> -53 degrees latitude at Chile, South America ----> 780mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 780mph with the GROUND there in Punta Arenas??)
Spinning Globe ----> -80 degrees latitude at Union Station, Antarctica ----> 180mph GROUND SPEED (does the air also move 180mph with the GROUND there at Union Station??)
So the Airport at Union Station is supposed to PHYSICALLY be moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....than the Airport at Punta Arenas only 4hours away.
How does an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West....then fly dead South towards an Airport and snow and mountains moving 600mph SLOWER to the West....and even be able to land??
How do you SLOW DOWN an Airplane taking off with 780mph initial velocity to the West...to a mere 180mph to the West...so it can line up with the Airport runway moving 180mph to the West (600mph SLOWER) than the one it took off from just 4hours earlier????
Please tell everyone how this is possible in the real world. I mean if you really were on a spinning ball in Punta Arenas moving 780mph to the West...on the runway before take off....and 4 hours away dead South was another runway moving 600mph SLOWER.....and you take off get up to say 500mph and keep that speed.......oh dear Lord this has now gone into the realm of Make Believe.
Can anyone from TFE please tell me how to make this work in the real world??
Do you realize Wolf Packs flight would have traveled over North America on its way to Santiago in flerfland?
You sound like someone who has never seen an airplane, let alone ridden in one
“Dr” David. I didn’t get a chance to see the flight on FR24. Do you have the flight number? How long did the flight take? If the distance from Punta Arenas is approximately 1870 miles, then simple division should do quite nicely for an approximation of the average speed. Allowing for ascent and descent would be even better.
@@MotownModels who, the “dr”?
Some people just doesn't have a brain for physics.
Yes, the air has basicly the same speed as the ground, otherwise you would constantly experience wind.
The air plane has always a certain velocity relative to the air.
Yes, it does slows down its westward speed. (by the way, this is an acceleration of 600 mph / 4h = 0.73 inches/sec² ..damn freedom units... or 0.0185 m/s²... or 0.0019 g )
But imagine this:
You have a giant pool (lets say 10 meters (30 feet) in radius), that is rotating at 10 rpm ( so, the rim has a speed of about 10 m/s ).
Would a swimmer, that starts from the center, would have trouble to reach a ladder on the edge of the pool?
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Hercules Hercules!!!
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Flat-Earth prediction? Really? Point me to where I can hear a flerf who predicting the altitudes of the Sun above the horizon with corresponding times. I’ll wait. LMAO! 🤣
@@jd1677 Walter Bislin’s model in 2017 was the first animated model to predict it. A model made by a globe proponent to try and falsify FE.
The guy who made the video of this post is a flat earther who won all 3 of Will Duffy’s TFE challenges. He’s also the developer of the firmament trackers app that predicts the phenomenon as well.
@@josephhanvey5891 Is this the guy who used globe Earth mathematics in his solutions?
@@josephhanvey5891 And I hope this doesn’t get me banned, but I’d still like to hear the explanation of how an equatorial mount works on a flat Earth, particularly South of the equator. A video would be super awesome for flat-Earth astronomers.
@ I’m planning on doing that one night soon.
However it’s quite simple. They demand the earth be horizontal. There is no other way for them to work properly without a horizontal plane of reference to wrap a grid system around.
@ Awesome. That should be interesting. I don’t have all the gear you do, but have been an on again, off again amateur astronomer for 44 years.
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