Pricey New Snap-On & Matco Ratchets vs Milwaukee & DeWALT
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2023
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Today we test the latest from Matco & Snap-On in cordless ratcheting including Matco's Sealed Head 16V MCL1638SR and Snap-On's CTR861 to see if the extra coin these cost is justified in performance and features.
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As always, the creator of this channel works in product development for Astro Tools, who don't make cordless ratchets, but always consider multiple sources when looking as a tool! 
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Just went and purchased a Milwaukee high speed yesterday due to your testing! Many thanks for all the time, effort and money that's put into this testing!
Is it powerful enough to replace the old fuel ⅜?
@@PrestonSteele09not unless you really have a reason to replace your old fuely. I snapped the head on mine, only reason I bought the upgrade.
Can’t wait to see the new Milwaukee thru socket ratchet
If it has a really low-profile head, yes, please! (I use my through bolt sockets more to fit unto tight spaces than to thread really long bolts)
Me too! Saw MrSubaru post about it and it looks sweet!
Game Changer ☝️
Okay
Yes definitely I'd like to see that Milwaukee pass-through. I have a Craftsman one that's also made by TT I, I've long been wondering why they haven't come out with as a Ridgid or Milwaukee! Seeing this post just now just awakened me that they have! Judging by the one I have it's probably pretty good, it gets to the point where I want to do the final torquing manually no problem. The only issue I have with it is it's pretty big, and awkward in tight places.
I personally can’t sleep if my ratchet is in the “good enough” category. Great video.
Notice how none of the pro brands use the the dumb paddle design? Yeah, wish Milwaukee would notice that too, lol. I think the paddle is merely a throwback to mimic an air tool but the thing is it's not really what you want when you don't need to have that. Most other companies have discovered that, but Milwaukee just keeps on truckin' with it...and puts it on Ryobi ratchets too. The odd part is, the Ridgid ratchets have a trigger and it's *way* better as mentioned. So they know, but they just think it's cool or something to keep using this paddle nonsense 🙄
Pop the pin out of the bottom of the paddle and you have a button instead.
I’d like to see the new Hyper Tough cordless ratchet. I know it’ll get smoked, but it’d be cool to see how a $40 dollar ratchet/battery combo stands up. Especially with extra 2ah batts being $15.
I'd like to add my voice to this. I have the extended reach one and it has not stalled out on me before being within two cranks of where I would final torque any faster I used it on! And several of them were lock nuts and rusted bolts.
He did a cheaper version of this not long ago can't remember if hyper tough was in it tho
Yes would also love to see the Hyper Tough ratchets get tested. For their price point ($40 Regular, $60 Extended, both with battery and charger), how bad can they be? Many other reviewers have been very positive about them.
Bro I work at a Porsche dealership and have used it daily for months. If it breaks I’ll buy another. I also have the Milwaukee version, but that was 5x the cost for tool only.
I've been harassing them for months to do the hyper tough ratchet that everyone keeps buying and recommending . . . they seem to be ignoring us lol
I have the long head and higher speed snap-on. Man, what a huge upgrade from my m12 high speed. Wouldn’t have imagined it would have been that better.
I just recently bought the long head snapon. It's my first electric ratchet and I'm very happy with how it performs, and plenty of torque too, I have to be careful not to strip some small bolts. My only wish is that it had the power selector like their 1/2" impact does. These tools are very expensive but I'm fine with paying for a tool I can trust won't have issues with build quality. And if a tool breaks for, literally whatever reason, I can just walk right into the tool truck and talk to a person directly.
@@Dappersworthdoes the ratchet have lifetime warranty?
@@Masticas. No, just includes a year after purchase. Not sure if you can buy extended or not.
@@Masticas.I have the short head snap on, I talked to the snap on truck driver and he said there’s no extension to the warranty but they will service the tool for a small fee. He did say the service department is very quick
I got my first electric ratchet, the Milwaukee extended high speed. I've had it a month and i absolutely love it.
I suggest for kicks and giggles the Walmart Hyper Tough Extended Reach. That thing is so cheap, would be interesting to see how it performs.
Dang at $60 bucks even if it's half decent that wouldn't be bad for a DIY guy
For 60bucks it would serve most guys very well prolly not any techs tho but it’s a fun idea
I'd love to see a round of Amazon cordless ratchets like Alloyman 20v(75ft-lbs), Prostormer 12v(55ft-lbs), Wisetool 20v(44ft-lbs), and the S-Long 12V extended head(40 ft-lbs). On another product category I'd like to see the advertised 370ft-lbs of the Prostormer 20v Cordless Impact Wrench tested to see if it is true because if so the advertised price of $69.99(Nice) is a amazing deal for a kit product. On that topic, I saw SeeSii brought out some more powerful cordless impacts recently and a right angle impact.
I would love to see head size dimensions added as part of the rank scoring might be important for automotive applications. Also test out the the long neck brute version of the snap on slower rpm but higher torque.
bought my dewalt 12v cause of this channel and I've never been disappointed by it!
Yes been itching for a new video please test out the non fuel impact driver vs the other budget level brushless models
Another great one I’ll be watching this on my lunch break 👍👍👍👍
I have the high torque extended reach M12, thinking of maybe getting the high speed as well, but most places you can usually reach stuff with an impact driver. In this way you can have something with really high speed and great torque and then use the slightly slower M12 for those few hard to access bolts and nuts.
I actually appreciate the "elastic" limit of the snap-on's manual torque. Like it's warning the user not to push harder. Seems like they put some sort of effort into the overall system design of the tool to make that happen. I have a weird feeling that more users will break the Matco ratchet because of its rigidity, able to withstand the torque 100% until the pawl fails catastrophically like a similarly sized 3/8ths ratchet.
Sounds like you're sipping the koolaid. The "elastic" feeling is literally the head flexing in the body. You can actually see it in the video where it begins to dislocate. Keep using it for high manual torque and the first thing to break is the light and then eventually the housing cracks. I've seen 3 broken in the shop. Not bad ratchets but you're selling a myth that doesnt exist. I wish everyone made the housings strong enough to take the torque with the weak point being the anvil but its often not the case. Certainly not with Snap-on lol.
@@natea1042 fair, I'm not hands-on with the tool. Good to know!
@natea1042 idk I own like 4 snap on tools and would never buy the electric ratchet over Milwaukee due to price alone but I'd much rather have a very clear and visual indication I'm pushing the tool too hard because 90% of the time when my tools break its because I thought "5 more ft/lbs won't hurt" 😅
@@joey9511 That was exactly my thought! Tools aren't invincible, might as well give the user a heads-up. Even better if they used a torque-limiting clutch/detent mechanism to protect the tool considering how expensive these are.
I have the pro point reactionless Ratchet and it's amazing! It's around $120 CAD at Princessauto, I think it would reach around 70 ft lbs and be one the fastest maintaining close to 300 - 600 rpm under load. It's air powered and is basically an IMPACT AIR RATCHET!
I have a Milwaukee M12 1/4 extended with a 3/8 anvil swapped on it. While it's not the highest torque, it gets in all the areas a whole lot easier and is super convenient to use.
still have the chromed head snap ratchet ctr761-117and going strong many years later in a truck shop. not sure if i have been lucky or not but it has outlasted the other brands guys have had in the shop. dont spin it up and hit the bolt head and seems to last for ever.
Can confirm on the 'unmeasurable' torque of breaking a bolt free with the tool truck rachets. I have milwaukee and my lead tech has snapon. Mine takes bolts off "quicker" , but it doesn't really matter when I have to break the bolts free by hand first. That being said, the snapon ones a knuckle buster if your not paying attention
yea if you are not paying attention that thing will dumpster some fingers. Had it smash my fingernail into an exhaust manifold so hard it made me sick to my stomach.
I use the Milwaukee high speed 3/8 and the 2.5 high output batteries. Best combo I've used
Excited to see the new dewalt sealed head when it comes out!
The Dcf510. I'm waiting for it too. You can pre order them now off tool nut or Acme tools but I wanna see TTC get their grubs on it first
Wonder if they’ll come out with a transmission for the high speed. Put it in 4Low
My snap-on dealer when trying to convince me to trade up to the new brushless toy told me a few days ago that the new brushless long neck 3/8 ratchet is apparently the combination of both speed and torture you should test that next if you can get your hands on one. Just like Milwaukee, snappy used to make the long neck brushed in a higher speed standard torque model as well as a low speed high torque model. Apparently the new brushless model produces the high torque with no sacrifice in speed.
Love the look of that Matco with the flat head I had an ir air flat head and I loved it but air it terrible compared to battery now days. I just want to see a cordless air hammer style tool with lots of beans but somewhat small
Nice. Snap on being neck to neck with the matco. Same color as mine as well!
I have that identical Snapon. Those lights beat everything else and the trigger is second to none. My 20v DeWalt has more torque though. 👍
Thank you for the review!
Have a great Father's day weekend Friend!
Snap on also makes a high torque electric ratchet. It is slower but puts out way more torque.
Good test, thanks.
Snap on Long reach cordless ratchet is the only way to go!
I'd like to see you add a thermal cam shot at the end, during or both after your bolt tests and torture tests. As always great stuff.
Snapon is hands down the best. I’ve used them all and always come back to snapon. Say what you will I don’t care!
Stay away from the rip-off truck. The debt is getting to your brain, where you feel the need to justify your bad purchasing decision
Milwaukee's 2569 ratchet would be a good contender if available. I own both the high speed and the 2569. I more often reach for the 2569 since the longer slim head can make it more places without the stubby body being in the way, and it's even faster than the high speed. You've also got the long body to ratchet free whatever is needed. Would be cool to see how it stacks up on the leaderboard. Ty again for another great video!
They tested it already
Yep, same thoughts here, I sold my old bulky head long neck Milwaukee for the newer 2559 long neck with a smaller head. They tested it a while ago, but didn’t use the newer model in this test. it’s only rated for 35 foot pounds so it would be cool to see how it stacks up.
@@tylermcgonigal6031 LOL yeah it's right there on the chart in 6th, not sure how that guy missed it. It was also slower but only just at 108s v. 100s for the standard reach. The main reason it drops down to 6th is the price.
... audibly let out a 'nice' at the same time unintentionally. GG, Snap-on.
BTW -- think we can get a torque test on the new Makita microwave? I think y'all need to give it the beans. ;)
i own all of snappys, something you should know - if you prespin those ratchets they have WAY more break away force. hold the trigger, get them going, then drop them onto the bolt and they will break away with out torquing out as easily.
It's called the clutch dump
I’m excited to see the Matco !
Great videos!
I have the snap on 3/8" short neck and I love it.
I love the video you guys put out. Have really helped me in finding the right tools.
I have the extended neck Ryobi HP 1/4 & 3/8 and they have more than enough power to tighten / loosen stuff. Sometimes i have to put a little muscle into it to break a bolt first or an extra ugga to tighten a little more and then being able to be used like a ratchet is awesome. I've haven't touched my air tool version in almost a year now.
I love my Snap On ratchets. I have both the short and long 3/8s the the long 1/4 inch. Which I'm curious if you guys would be interested in testing as the rpm is much higher on the 1/4.
Love mine too and the 1/4” ones yank. They really should test it.
I think you're leaving one major key scoring system on these tools and I know it be hard for you to measure but I can personally tell you I have the brushed 1/4 long neck Snap-on cordless ratchet and the brushless short 1/4 snap-on cordless ratchet and the 3/8 long brushed cordless ratchet and have had them almost 2 year with everyday use they all still work perfect with no over heating all my co workers have either Dewalt or Milwaukee and none of theirs lasted more than 6 months of everyday use
Would still really like to see a MAC BRS038 on the show -- it's a 12V unit and pre-dates the DeWalt branded ratchets by a fair bit. It was, at the time anyway, one of the only cordless ratchets that fits nicely down into Subaru spark plug territory, hence why I have one.
I bought the sealed head Matco about a month ago it's a beast. I tend to use it more than my Snap-on 14 for brushless Long neck just because of the lever. I can't believe Milwaukee will not change that ridiculous paddle switch. I like the rest of their tools but I would never own one of their ratchets just because the lever and their high-speed ones are gutless in my opinion a one of the techs at the shop bought one off the Matco truck and he really doesn't like. If you're taking off a lot of bolts let's face it you using impact for the most part. Or I will use my Mac 1/4 Drive air impact ratchet that thing is fast and trick
Can't wait till you guys test the new dcf510 and dcf500!!
Snap-on says on the tool assembled in kenosha wisconsin with global components.
The dewalt Dcf510. It's not released yet but I'm hoping it'll be the do all cordless ratchet you speak of
My thing Is I want a powerful ratchet. The hi speed Milwaukee is gutless as hell. If I want to hand ratchet something I'll use a ratchet that has a fine tooth count 🤷. These electric ratchets have a very large swing arc and the argument of breaking it free first then spinning it off doesn't cut it in any remotely tight spots.
That's why the snap on at 60 ft lbs and still has some speed and not a stupid paddle switch is the clear winner for me.
Although that Matco is calling my name with that selector switch 🤔
I'd like to see the KRC-5000 cyclone ratchet. It is a pneumatic pass-through ratchet that is built like a tank. Seems fitting considering the Milwaukee m12 insider that is coming out.
For a ratchet i dont card if i have to break it by hand. I want it to run the nut on and off as quick as possible. If you want torque go get a right angle impact.
Wait till the dcf510 comes out with a swappable 3/8 and 1/2 inch anvil and 75 foot pounds of torque 👀 I'm definitely gonna get one
You bet! I'm gonna too.
I think a good idea would be testing the 1/4in cordless ratchets
The air ratchet I bought years ago works great for me.
I know you guys tested the brusheless Durofix in the past, but I really like my AC Delco brushed ratchet (ARW1218-3T). It seems unlikely that the brushed would be any better but it does make me wonder. And they still sell it too.
The Durofix they tested was brushed. The only brushless ones from Durofix are some of the red Delco ones--they clearly say brushless on the back at the top of the body. The Durofix models, some of the red Delco ones, along with the blue Delco ones, are all brushed-motor tools. The main caveat with the blue Delco ones is the non-variable trigger--it's either on or off, nothing in between (though there may be some ramp up on the motor before it gets to full speed). I seriously doubt the blue Delcos would be any better than the Durofix ones.
LUV THIS CHANNEL, T.Y. SO MUCH.
Hey stupid question...
Have you guys tested torque wrenches (electronic, click type, split beam, and beam etc etc) for out of the box accuracy?
Would you consider doing so?
Great channel 👍👍
Would like to see the 1/4” higher rpm snap on ratchet.
milwaukee has a new one coming out i believe called insider. its supposed to be more torque and fit in tighter spaces
ridgid is coming out with a cordless right angle impact ratchet in august
i hope you can test both. im getting the ridgid asap if u want me to ship it to you first
I know they are not out but I want to know what you think of the M12 milwaukee pass through ratchet. I think they call it an extended Reach Box Ratchet
Was there ever a video on an Ingersoll rand cordless ratchet?
I use one at work and it’s personally my favourite
I wish you guys did videos with the ingersoll rand cordless ratchets, currently trying to decide between theirs (because i already have batteries) or snap on or matco.
Waiting for the arrival of my extended Kimo today.
bring the mactool please!!! i bought one sometime ago and i love it, very sturdy and realiable, works on small 12v dewalt/mac batteries.
That Matco is brushed!! Dewalt has an identical version coming out with a brushless motor and 80ft lbs / 300rpm
Can't wait!
IMO, the extra lighting & battery stand are worth the $200+ over the Milwaukee for the Snap On, as a car guy. The ITT stuff is for construction like stuff, and that stuff has space for lighting.
Car stuff, specifically newer cars, stuff is so tight that not even a rachet will work! There's no way a light is going to fit once your hand is in (still may require a mirror to see the bolt or nut).
it's not worth it when SnapOn's cordless platforms don't offer crap for tools to actually use your puny 36 Wh/$120 batteries with making all their stuff extremely bad value by default because you're 100% going to end up buying some other brand in addition to it anyways. They're going to need A LOT more than some gimmicky ass stand and a ring light, lol.
And they only give you a 1 year warranty on the tool/battery. Absolutely pathetic for a $500 kit when the industry standard is typically 3 years minimum for most tools/batteries. And Milwaukee is 5 years on their ratchets. Imagine being considered a "pro" level brand and not being willing to even stand by your products for more than a year when just about everyone else will.
If you own both a high speed and a high torque, what makes you decide to grab one or the other? I can't imagine it would be terribly practical to swap between the two in use.
Can you test the hercules cordless ratchets
All I want is a long reach 1/4” 12v Dewalt ratchet. Don’t care what price they slap on it, I’ll buy it.
Please do air ratchets like the air cat long reach. Seems like a beast
I’d like to see a full speed reverse drop on progressively tighter fasteners.
Long neck testing as well.
I have 3 Snapon Rachets, and 2 Milwaukee, one of the Snapons is 8 years old and still uses the same battery, amazing, extended head 1/4 drive Snapon is in its on league, pretty much priceless. I hate the Milwaukee for a couple of reasons, first is not having a trigger and the safety on the paddle, it just waist a bunch of time, time we do not have, second is the head is very large on the 3/8, so it does not fit in the area of a rachet, if you can fit a Milwaukee rachet the a lot of time you can use a small inpact, and last is the Snapon is going on over 8 years, the Milwak, went 3 years and just died, no support from Home Depot, and the Milwaukee wanted closet to the same price to fix then replace.
I have the snap on and I love it. The trigger is worth the extra money.
Drop test them and see which battery brakes first. I bet the m12 has the lowest durability in a drop test. I like the Milwaukee price, but I like the Snapon durability and the magnet attachment for the battery is great also.
True, the Milwaukee batteries and the way they insert into the tool are so poorly designed
Not sure why I’m watching this. I’m using the $34 HyperTough ratchet and it’s more than enough for my needs.
I love and use my snap on extended gear reduced 3/8 ratchet and my extended brushless 1/4 ratchet. Both are in the 14.4 line and I don't believe they offer the extended length gear reduction 3/8 one anymore. The standard length ratchets in my opinion are not worth their price vs the extended length ones for professional everyday automotive use.
That snap-on light ring is very good
I run the Dewalt extended 12v 3/8 version. Some of my batteries are 8 years old. Basically all my electric stuff is their 12 and 20v
I'd like to see the Mac Tools 12V as well
great video, that is the sealed head matco. i own the 1/4” sealed head. That’s not the normal ratchet. I have the regular 3/8 drive power ratchet i’d be curious to see the diference. How do I send to you guys for testing? if your interested.
Snap-on CTR 768 its slow but very powerful would love to see tested mine is long reach
They need to try adapt the SP-AIR impacting air ratchet into a cordless design. That would be sweet
What about the DeWalt Mac tool combo I have one in my box I love it
I wish i could send you my CTR768 Brute. But I use it every day. 175rpm and 70ft-lbs brushed motor with a planetary gear reduction
Can we see drills or hammer drills? Looking for a new one and wondering what’s best
Im aurprised you guys font lole the paddle soich. I actually prefer it quite a bit. Just way more comfortable.
I really don't understand why no manufacturer has made a semi-cordless ratchet that has a very svelte head and handle that recieve their power from a short flexible tube to the motor and battery. That design would reach everywhere a regular ratchet can, and still be able to deliver torque without needing space to swing the ratchet. It would be a high-torque version of modern rotary tools that have long, flexible extensions.
Weird question... Does the 5.0 high output from team red change the numbers on their ratchets?
I can't get over the archaic battery design
Idk if anyone has some information about this- but I’m in the market for some chordless ratchets but I’m wondering if I should wait and hold out until they come out with a flex head version of them. Idk if that’s really going to happen anytime soon but it’s something I’m tossing around as I’m seeing some flex head impacts coming out
Please do adjustable wrenches in consumer size like 10 or 12 inch and industrial size specifically 16 inch spud wrenches.
Hey ttc! Love your videos! I have an old Montgomery Ward impact that I feel like would be cool to test. Let me know if you want me to send it to you!
What about the newer high output batteries on the Milwaukee Fuels?
Wonder how the new dewalt sealed head will go
Forgot the hyper tough one lol I use mine 5 days a week for a year now stil going
You should find a way to stuff the 20v battery on the 12v dewalt , gives a power wheels a big boost 🤷♂️
How do the AC delco ratchets hold up?
Do a test of spinning up the ratchets then putting them on the bolt. My high torque Milwaukee undoes bolts that would make it stall if just putting ot on the trying
Gotta test my Mac 12 volt!
Not sure if you tested it, but the Ingersoll rand 20v ratchet
Can you test butterfly impacts. They have over 10,000 rpm
dewalt has a sealed head inter-changeable ratchet coming soon to the mac trucks