People say that Kang in Quantumania was underwhelming, and I could see that the first part, but in reality Kang is weakened in this film. A lot of people don't really understand that. Kang is weakened because he is in the Quantumn Realm. Now, if Kang was outside of the Quantumn Realm and had access to time, then Kang would have been more capable and more powerful like traveling through time, manipulating time, and summoning any weapon from any point in time just like in the comics. And I liked how they did this because it proves that a weak Kang, or even the weakest Kang, can be a big threat, like how Kang conquered the Quantumn Realm, like a whole dimension basically, a weakened Kang conquered a whole dimension. It just goes to show the capability of Kang, and I hope that they can expand on this Kang stuff like every Kang after the one in Quantumania will be stronger and stronger just showing the danger of Kang as a whole.
and even then, he was a beast. he just get down and single handedly forced the rebels to retreat, defeated a character who just one shot a giant monster that make giant man look small in seconds, mopped the floor with scott hope and cassie all at once. not even the ants was gonna stop him if it wasnt for modok's kamikaze
Kang is Thanos-level. The problem is that with the ants he has encountered the "angry villagers rule." It does not matter how tough you are you can be overrun by a sufficient number of highly motivated peasants. And ants make for one hell of an overrun.
The ants in this case were also highly evolved in tech just like Kang is but they weren’t the ones to kill this variant. It was Scott who detonated the core with quick thinking that did it.
@@Megaproductions302, there is a trope involved in which the heroes turn the antagonist's hubris against them and so overcome the perceived power of that antagonist.
Kang's powers are limited "outside of time" he doesn't know what comes next for example... His suit was also damaged. Given that and a flood of Super-Ants he takes a beating but still comes back... That's pretty tough!
@@Megaproductions302 which is a primary reason why I hated the movie. I wish either scott or his wofe should have died there & scott goes back & Kang is stuck.
As the HISHE guys pointed out, if Janet had just taken an hour to explain her time/experience in The Quantum Realm this whole movie could have been avoided.
@C K You don’t think they were asking what she was doing for 30 years and how did she survive anyway? Even saying “there was a man with this psychokinetic technology I helped him fix it but then I saw how dangerous he was and couldn’t let him escape, that’s why I was trapped.” would be enough explanation.
That's dumb as hell. So then Odin shouldn't have died so Ragnarok wouldn't happen. Woulda coulda shouda. You can make these arguments against every event in history yo fit your narrative.
I think the big action climax had a real issue with it having no proper sense of scale. Like, they verbally remind us multiple times how big Scott is, or Cassie... because they don't look big, standing in this sci-fantasy CGI backdrop. There's nothing familiar to measure their size against, so they just kind look regular sized.
I also found it decent, but Kant was hugely underwhelming, his empire was nearly useless in that final battle, makes you wonder how he ever had those freedom fighters on the run to begin with. I understand he should’ve been weakened from being exiled, but even still after such a huge build up with him saying he doesn’t even know who Scott is because the amount of Avengers he’s killed makes them all “blur together” just to get zerg rushed by intelligent ants is just anticlimactic The actor for Kang was incredible tho
@@Blockshot16 yeah gotta agree. Kang never even came remotely close to the feeling of power and competence that Thanos had, and its just not at all believable he will be the next Avengers level threat.
@@Doomfoolable He basically got nerfed in this quantum realm and wasn’t even at 50% of what he could have done. This Kang Probably also isn’t the one the avengers will face.
Hand describes the ants as a "Class Two Civilization." He's describing the ants as being on the Kardesev Scale, which means that they have harnessed the entire power of a blasted solar system. So Kang was defeated by the focused power of a solar system.
where in that battle are they focusing the power of an entire solar system into Kang? Are we supposed to believe they are containing that energy in their bodies? That their tiny guns are actually orders of magnitude more powerful that the Death Star superlaser? This just seems like a bunch of waffling to try and explain away a disappointing fight.
@@Doomfoolable no the point is that the level of general tech that the ants have are far more than earth on average in the MCU, they are at the level that surpasses wakanda or stark. so they can fight kangs forcres. earth in real life is less that one on the Kardesev Scale. a one is a civilization is able to harness the total power out of a planet. geothermal hydro thermal, wind also material sciences, storage of energy ect. two is the total power out put of a star. not in as a weapon but in complexity of technology. yup it is still a way to explain the fight, that the hero's couldn't win other wise.
@@Doomfoolable, there is something called "willing suspension of disbelief," however, there is no reason not to accept that these ants from a Kardeshev Class Two civilization are not each embodying energies equal to what Hulk channeled during The Battle for New York. If you found the fight disappointing, that's on you.
@@LeeCarlson Haha yeah no. Its not on me, its on the multi-billion dollar company making the movie to make fights that feel satisfying and engaging. The fight and movie in general being pretty disappointing is not a hot take.
@@Deimos2k5 idk that kind of hyperbole is what makes online discourse frustrating. Ofcourse they were trying. For some, it didn’t work and they didn’t have the time, money or ideas needed to crush the landing. Happens to a lot of movies. The good parts were fun but the bad parts are quite distracting
This would have to happen AFTER Loki season 1 because there was only one Kang (He Who Remained) and one universe, until the events of that season allowed the multiverse to come into being. Without a multiverse there can be no 'Council of Kangs' to exile *this* Kang to the Quantum Realm.
Technically there is never not a multiverse, as the events of Loki don’t take place in any timeline. So they only happen in the memories of the people who experienced them.
@@NerdyNightly the events of Loki happening aren’t effecting what is happening Ny in the multiverse regardless of it it happens outside of the timeline or not. U have to physically be in the timeline to effect it. And silvie did just that in episode 2 when she set off all the charges and sent them all over the timeline, which is where the new branches began to splinter of u remember. From that point foward, regardless of what was going on outside the timeline on the tva, the multiverse was set into play. Before silvie set the charges in episode two, there definitely was only one universe. They showcased it all throughout the season. Many images from Miss minutes showing the one singular spherical line.
About why the probability storm copies went away - I thought it was because they weren't on their own anymore and observed each other, which collapses the probabilities into a locked state. Pop-sci quantum physics.
I think Claroos was confused by Kang's comment to Scott about leaving. He wasn't referring to the earlier deal, but the moment there at the end of battle where they were all going home. Of course, Kang is a little insane; so you can't be sure of what he meant at all.
My review of Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania 1: I’ll agree it’s not a perfect movie but I actually really like it and I think it’s the right project to start Phase 5 2: The comedy was funny but there were some times that it was kinda cringe or odd 3: M.O.D.O.K was a interesting character and I like his design but I didn’t like that they killed him off and it doesn’t matter of his face because he is supposed to look goofy regardless 4: Cassie Lang deserved better in this movie she was done kinda dirty although I did like her in the movie and I’m excited for her return in possibly in the future and be a part of the Young Avengers 5: Don’t you dare disrespect Kang The Conqueror he is a menacing villain, very badass, and don’t you dare disrespect his Comic Accurate suit it’s one of the best suits of all time and straight up ripped out of the comics although he was done dirty in this movie he is still one of my favorite MCU villains 6: Disrespected the post credit scenes in this movie which is Council of Kangs reveal and set up to Avengers: The Kang Dynasty which is now Doomsday but he is still going to return and the Loki Season 2 teaser was insane and one of the greatest shows of all time 7: It is a 7.5/10 movie it’s not a bad movie it’s pretty good
I actually really like adam warlock in guardians 3 it's his first appearance there's so much more character development that can be done with that character he hasn't even learnt magic yet maybe he'll learn from krugarr
At least with Adam Warlock he seems uncomfortable doing bad bad things/being the bad guy. Cross abruptly caring that anyone thinks he's bad after two movies of not doing that was...weird.
The thing about Kang, the story armor that he has is that while it is one character, it is infinite versions of that character. They can do; literally, anything with the character. His threat level isn't a finite thing... they just need to bring in another version of him. This Kang wasn't the Kang in Loki
Comic book Kang has no powers, his threat is his future tech suit, ability to grab tech and resources from different eras, his tactical skills and scientific knowledge, help he gets from the Council of Kangs, and the fact that he sometimes has super-powered troops or even armies at his disposal. Regarding the Ooze, learning other languages or information through a liquid is a concept seen before in several stories such as JOHN CARTER and Grant Morrison's THE INVISIBLES.
Remember one important thing... After Loki the timeline is changed. We have variants and branches now. Janet can NOT have met Kang at the end of the Ant Man and The Wasp (as there were no Kang variants until Loki) but now that Loki (Sylvie) has killed Kang, there are Kangs everywhere... Aaagh! Also, was the one Janet met the one who set up the TVA? If so, they just killed him earlier than Sylvie did... AAAAAGH!
the multiverse has existed in the MCU since the beginning. Sylvie killing he who remains happens outside of time so therefore the timeline we have been observing has never been affected by any of the events that happen in Loki, its insanely confusing but its impossible for the multiverse to not exist
It is affected by that. The only way the kang varients would appear is when Sylvie killed He Who Remains. They literally say it and Loki s2 finale confirms this too@@Pobsworth
1:10:58 You fail to understand what makes Kang the conqueror an Thanos level nemesis, is that Kang always finds a way to cheat death, even if you manage to kill that one kang variant, Kang always comes back, he can transfer his mind to one of his variants body, and if you kill one kang, his variants will take its place, takeover that Kangs empire and go out to conquer something else.
Katy O'Brian who played Jentorra in this, and Elia Kane in Mandlorian, is an accomplished martial artist, so as far as I know she didn't have to get extra ripped for this movie
In Giant Man form, Scott gains power similar to the way Hulk becomes stronger and more invulnerable. Think of the airport fight in Civil War and blasting out of Avengers HQ in Endgame.
Cassie calling out Scott, saying people still need help, to me is one of my favorite parts. Even if you saved the world, your work doesn’t end (Doctor Strange, Thor, Wakanda, Falcon/Captain America, Ant-Man, etc;).
I guess you can say that M.O.D.O.K has some sort of an arc,cause he does something good at the end...High Evolutionary in Guardians 3 was way more threatening than Kang in Quantumania...
The biggest problem with the movie is its core premise - the silliest Avengers (though maybe not the weakest) battle a villain we're expected to fear more than Thanos... and win? Imagine that instead they get demolished and only Cassie escapes alive, now hellbent on putting together a Young team Mighty enough to AVENGE her family. Real tension, real stakes, looming threat, a real direction for the franchise currently.
This isn’t even kang at 50%. He basically got nerfed being in the quantum realm. And judging by how the movie turned out probably isn’t the strongest one we have yet to see.
While very likely true, the movie didn't tell us that this was a "weak" version. I was under the impression that this variant had already conquered/destroyed several universes and had been exiled by their peers for it, implying that he was one of the more powerful Kangs. We shall see though.
@@offcenterideas actually yes the movie did tell you that. he got introducted as an exile with no power. and without his ship's core, his suit was all he had and doesnt reflect the true power of his arsenal. also the premise of this show was ''look out for the little guy'' telling us that even an ant can be the end of a conqueror. that is why thorough the whole movie, whenever kang belittle someone, that someone turned out a pain in his ass later. which was a good message. and im glad they didnt sweep that theme under the rug to kiss kang's ass just so we know what a real deal he is. because we know that. and we aint done with the character by a long shot. kang at his early stage. the same stage that people use to make fun of thanos for only sitting on his throne and do nothing
1:14:11 Because they're are different levels to that realm as janet says in this movie. She sent him to gather some radiation nd thats all. Also movie can't make mistakes, it is humans that make them. Unless yall want A.I to do it
After explaining that you're both high, it makes the reaction more fun watching you two. Nerdy laughing at everything and Clarus is like "focus, focus, stay focused" 😂😂.
Ants aren't stronger than humans. It's just that strength isn't really a factor when you're that small. If you actually supersized an ant to human size, their legs would shatter under their own weight.
this kang was trying to get out to try and stop the other kang's, so he was kinda a good guy but was willing to destroy timelines to stop the other versions of him
Janet being the hero, "Oh, you are killing people!" All of that sh!t, and Kang is over there like, "Oh, that doesn't matter." No BS, at the final part of the Multiversal Saga people will be routing for Kang, or saying that Kang is right, like as Kang said, and the other versions of his and those things, they will destroy the timelines, or the incusions will destroy the Universes and timelines anyway, so there is no real way to save the people that Janet mentions, because they are all going to die anyways, and so they would be left with, "it's either they die, or everyone dies," kind of situation, where sacrificing a few lives and universes means and ensures the survival of everyone else, or at least save as much as can be saved, because in this situation with Kang and the incursions and all that not everyone can be saved.
fun fact: the writers of avengers endgame wanted to use ants in the final battle, but decided against it once they realized they couldn't figure out a reasonable way to for thanos and his army to beat them, i'm not kidding
This movie is way underrated. Certainly not perfect, but definitely better than it was made out to be, and better than the majority of post-Endgame MCU movies.
I hate the Ant-Man suit in this movie. Ant-Man's suit withstood blast from Kang's ships, Kang's own blast, but when he gets beat up by Kang, then his suit breaks. They made Ant-Man's suit durable to the point where it didn't make sense.
1:13:50 the inability to actually think and comprehend a movie on first viewing.. smh this is a clear observation of people who are full of themselves. They're sooooo smart
This was a great movie... to watch drunk on a Thursday on my TV, knowing that I didn't pay for it. It would have sucked to blow money on a theater ticket to see this.
That's fine and all but we go to theaters for different reasons. I go for the dark room, large screen, full immersive surround sounds, lounge chairs, with some snacks. Quantumania may not have been the best MCU film but it was a spectacle of sight and sound that made me appreciate it even more than watching it at home.
The Major problem marvel has right now is that everyone expects endgame level stuffs ( the story, the stakes, the villains). Y'all need to chill, let them build up. There's literally no way they are showing the most powerful variant of Kang 3-4 years before Kang dynasty without proper build up. Think of it has being in the age of ultron phase. They did a great job showing Kang was weakened but still a force, move on.
If you aren't happy with Quantumania (so are MOST of US FANS), don't worry; the next MCU movie to watch on Disney+ is a really solid movie and a perfect Marvel swansong from James Gunn, not to mention it's gonna be an absolute tearjerker!
Kang Did not betray Antman , antman betrayed Kang when he refused to give Kang the Multiversal core when Kang asked Cause Janet told Scott not to do it The Kang Took it by force and thereafter the deal was off
You are disappointed because one version of died, but that doesn't matter, The thing about Kang is that you kill one Kang, and another one will show up and take its place. And His Variants are already out there and they can literally do anything in the multiverse
1:03:09 no chemistry??? Im guessing you haven't watched all 3 antman films. Little did you know they are all connected, so the love they had from the 2 one is still there. They were clearly separated the whole movie soooooo, why are yall expecting the love story to be more prominent. Its crazy what people complain about when they have know idea what they're talking about
Well, I can say I’ve seen (at least some of) it now… & agree, the first part seemed interesting but it really fell off in the second part. Overall a solid Meh.
The first time we *really* see Thanos on screen - within 3 mins he's bested Thor, battered the Hulk and murdered loki. We have seen 2 kangs now lose to "comedy" characters. His threat is lacking big time. They should have killed off scott here & set the stakes. He sacrifices himself to keep this kang contained cos he's just so powerful. Hell, even have Cassie be forced to close the portal trapping scott with kang who kills him in a 1 sides ass whooping(play the "we just both have to lose!" line hard here), really twist the knife. would have been good to get those 'Infinity War' vibes again at the end cos it would really set up all the OG avengers at risk of being killed(cos they all pretty much have replacements now, so marvel can afford to play a lil' less safe)
Quantity has a quality all of its own… That said, this was a Kang in exile, stripped of most of his power and resources. The one in Loki is complacent and overconfident. We haven’t really seen Kang yet, much less a multiverse of him.
We've only seen a Kang that was stripped of most of his power and one that didn't mind dying. We've yet to see a Kang that actually wants to win AND has the power to do so
The thing about kang that u gotta remember is that he’s not just one person’ there’s going to be hundreds of king’s out there all with different powers and time travelling abilities’ I’m pretty sure that MARVEL said there was at least one or two in each universe’ I think there’s going to be a couple like this one that will be a bit easier to take down than others and some clearly impossible’ if I’m correct MARVELS secret wars is supposed to have something to do with all the kang’s coming together and the all the new super heroes having to defeat them all’ the only real threatening thing I find with kang’s is that unlike Thanos since they have the ability to travel through time without having to find any stones they will have the opportunity to travel through time and get rid of super heroes before they even become AVENGERS or get their powers’
4:37 remember when superheroes had actual practical costumes not just cgi i miss those days like when iron man and thor had actual helmets i miss those days
lmaoo yeah. i watched it for the first time today and gasped when he came on screen! I'm so glad I didn't see this movie in cinemas because i would've shouted loudly
Scott’s book is actually something you can preorder now. It’s dropping early September. My favorite funny moments were Scott’s audiobook, Quaz’s powers, and M.O.D.O.F.K. Three things in particular that I liked about this film: 1.) Scott and Hope now have portable suits. 2.) No matter the situation, Scott’s driving force is his daughter Cassie. 3.) The final fight between Scott/Ant-Man vs. Nathaniel/Kang. They didn’t say her codename, but Cassie in her suit is known as Stature. I feel like the citrus scene is a callback to Scott needing orange slices after getting a double whammer from Iron Man and War Machine. We didn’t get to see Scott’s friends in this movie, but Veb was portrayed by David Dastmalchian - the same actor who portrayed Kurt. Jentorra was portrayed by Katy O’Brian, the same actress who portrayed Elia Kane in The Mandalorian. Parts of this movie gave me Star Wars, Guardians, TRON: Legacy, and Avatar vibes all at once. The first post-credit scene showcases the Council of Kangs. The three variants that spoke in order of appearance were Rama-Tut, Centurion, and Immortus. There was one variant who teleported wearing a suit and tie. He’s known as Mr. Gryphon. This paves the way to Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. What I’m about to say is a rumor. I’d take it with a grain of salt, but in the event that they end up making a second season of Moon Knight they’ll consider making Rama-Tut the next main villain. As for the second post-credit scene, I don’t know if Victor Timely is a member of the council and I definitely don’t know if Mobius regained his memories or not, but for now I’ll take comfort knowing he and Loki are working together again. The adventure continues in Loki season 2, and you’ll be happy to know that we finally have a release date. It’ll premiere on Friday, October 6. They also announced that Maya Lopez’ solo series Echo will premiere on Wednesday, November 29. All episodes are expected to drop that day.
I don't get how people complain about nano tech suits and the bunching up of the shirt. Yet tony stark wears metal suit, and nobody worries about his clothes. But oooh no let the ant men has somewhat nano tech
Awwww... What a buzz kill... LOL! Go back and do it AFTER the "cleansssse..." Worth it. My "personal" choice for the "psychédélique" snack bar ("🎶Let's all go to the LObby!🎶") was a square from a "Cosmic Magic Mushroom Bar." One square. I STRESS. One... I'll be saving the other squares for just such occasions. I have to say this really took me back to the late 60's and early 70's issues of Marvel. "Doctor Strange." "Silver Surfer." "Fantastic Four." "Adam Warlock" (the TRUE mind f#%k comic.) It's what "The Eternals" SHOULD have been.
I can't tell if Nerdy needs to smoke more, or eat less edibles... My best guess about the probability thing is they observed each other, thus nullifying the schrodingers cat? The answer is Quantum something.
The only reason you stopped “digging it” is because you didn’t know what was going on basically them ants transformed into a Type 2 civilisation when they traveled thousands of years in a day so they had the power of a star and was super intelligent hence why they was able to weaken Kang also Kang was more weak is because he was exiled to the qauntum realm obviously Kang relise on time and power so he was limited to that in the qauntum realm otherwise he would be unstoppable like Janet saw when she touched his ship also you know he is still very powerful when weakened because at the end he trapped Scott in a different universe hence why you see purple and green everywhere which are the colours of Kang and everyone around him on the street looks at him really weird
It was a collaborative effort between her and a couple of guys that he went to college with, they just forgot to actually put in some "effort". The fact that super politically woke Disney didn’t fire him instantly, and are actually backing him up, I mean that alone is a pretty solid indication that the allegations aren’t very credible lol.
the characters in this really didnt make too much sense to me. Hope and Hank set foot in the quantum realm and see a freaking ship flying around and they hardly even react to it.
@@Halbam This person used the term "cis", so there’s a strong possibility that they don't even know their medical history lol. But hey, that’s science fiction for ya! 🤣
Kang was awesome, I love that Cassie’s suit is purple similar to how Kate’s is from Hawkeye & then you have Black panther’s suit has purple energy & Kang’s was purple a bit too. idk much about MOODOK other than he’s an Ironman AIM villain but I liked them tying it back to antman 1 & hope the shit with the Kang actor gets resolved idk if there gonna reacts him or not but he’s great in the role. I’d rather him be okay than all the Ezra shit
Scott doesn't have superpowers, however, he does have the suit which is designed to protect his body from the stress of size-changing, and he has fought alongside Steve Rogers, so at the very least he has learned how to throw a punch and how to take one.
People say that Kang in Quantumania was underwhelming, and I could see that the first part, but in reality Kang is weakened in this film. A lot of people don't really understand that. Kang is weakened because he is in the Quantumn Realm. Now, if Kang was outside of the Quantumn Realm and had access to time, then Kang would have been more capable and more powerful like traveling through time, manipulating time, and summoning any weapon from any point in time just like in the comics.
And I liked how they did this because it proves that a weak Kang, or even the weakest Kang, can be a big threat, like how Kang conquered the Quantumn Realm, like a whole dimension basically, a weakened Kang conquered a whole dimension. It just goes to show the capability of Kang, and I hope that they can expand on this Kang stuff like every Kang after the one in Quantumania will be stronger and stronger just showing the danger of Kang as a whole.
Kang is only super powerful if he has access to time & space. In the quantum realm he's cut off. Kang here is no where near his full strength
Yep exactly.
and even then, he was a beast. he just get down and single handedly forced the rebels to retreat, defeated a character who just one shot a giant monster that make giant man look small in seconds, mopped the floor with scott hope and cassie all at once. not even the ants was gonna stop him if it wasnt for modok's kamikaze
Kang is Thanos-level. The problem is that with the ants he has encountered the "angry villagers rule." It does not matter how tough you are you can be overrun by a sufficient number of highly motivated peasants. And ants make for one hell of an overrun.
The ants in this case were also highly evolved in tech just like Kang is but they weren’t the ones to kill this variant. It was Scott who detonated the core with quick thinking that did it.
@@Megaproductions302, there is a trope involved in which the heroes turn the antagonist's hubris against them and so overcome the perceived power of that antagonist.
Kang's powers are limited "outside of time" he doesn't know what comes next for example... His suit was also damaged. Given that and a flood of Super-Ants he takes a beating but still comes back... That's pretty tough!
@@Megaproductions302 which is a primary reason why I hated the movie. I wish either scott or his wofe should have died there & scott goes back & Kang is stuck.
Hank was studying under Squirrel Girl between movies.
As the HISHE guys pointed out, if Janet had just taken an hour to explain her time/experience in The Quantum Realm this whole movie could have been avoided.
This entire movie is absolutely Janet’s fault. Even when they’re in the Quantum Realm she refuses to explain putting them in more danger.
@C K “There is a dangerous man who personally destroyed numerous realities and timelines down there.” Would have been enough.
@C K You don’t think they were asking what she was doing for 30 years and how did she survive anyway? Even saying “there was a man with this psychokinetic technology I helped him fix it but then I saw how dangerous he was and couldn’t let him escape, that’s why I was trapped.” would be enough explanation.
Not as epic as their other recent one on Little Mermaid with the savage, savage eels.
That's dumb as hell. So then Odin shouldn't have died so Ragnarok wouldn't happen. Woulda coulda shouda. You can make these arguments against every event in history yo fit your narrative.
i love how Nerdy is laughing most of the time while Clarus looks like she's trying to hold onto her sanity every other moment lol
I feel like that they should do more reaction with only one of them stoned out of thier mind .... And the other one sober but keep switching it up
I think the big action climax had a real issue with it having no proper sense of scale. Like, they verbally remind us multiple times how big Scott is, or Cassie... because they don't look big, standing in this sci-fantasy CGI backdrop. There's nothing familiar to measure their size against, so they just kind look regular sized.
I had a few problems with this movie, but I will NEVER understand why it got the hate it did. It's a pretty good movie.
Disney is now very political as a topic. There’s likely some criticism (and support) that is just people seeing what they want to see.
I also found it decent, but Kant was hugely underwhelming, his empire was nearly useless in that final battle, makes you wonder how he ever had those freedom fighters on the run to begin with. I understand he should’ve been weakened from being exiled, but even still after such a huge build up with him saying he doesn’t even know who Scott is because the amount of Avengers he’s killed makes them all “blur together” just to get zerg rushed by intelligent ants is just anticlimactic
The actor for Kang was incredible tho
@@Blockshot16 yeah gotta agree. Kang never even came remotely close to the feeling of power and competence that Thanos had, and its just not at all believable he will be the next Avengers level threat.
@@Doomfoolable He basically got nerfed in this quantum realm and wasn’t even at 50% of what he could have done. This Kang Probably also isn’t the one the avengers will face.
@@comicjack93 thats all fascinating stuff, but it doesn't make this whole movie and fight feel any less underwhelming.
Hand describes the ants as a "Class Two Civilization." He's describing the ants as being on the Kardesev Scale, which means that they have harnessed the entire power of a blasted solar system. So Kang was defeated by the focused power of a solar system.
yup a Dyson sphere creating civilization level
where in that battle are they focusing the power of an entire solar system into Kang? Are we supposed to believe they are containing that energy in their bodies? That their tiny guns are actually orders of magnitude more powerful that the Death Star superlaser? This just seems like a bunch of waffling to try and explain away a disappointing fight.
@@Doomfoolable no the point is that the level of general tech that the ants have are far more than earth on average in the MCU, they are at the level that surpasses wakanda or stark. so they can fight kangs forcres. earth in real life is less that one on the Kardesev Scale. a one is a civilization is able to harness the total power out of a planet. geothermal hydro thermal, wind also material sciences, storage of energy ect. two is the total power out put of a star. not in as a weapon but in complexity of technology. yup it is still a way to explain the fight, that the hero's couldn't win other wise.
@@Doomfoolable, there is something called "willing suspension of disbelief," however, there is no reason not to accept that these ants from a Kardeshev Class Two civilization are not each embodying energies equal to what Hulk channeled during The Battle for New York. If you found the fight disappointing, that's on you.
@@LeeCarlson Haha yeah no. Its not on me, its on the multi-billion dollar company making the movie to make fights that feel satisfying and engaging. The fight and movie in general being pretty disappointing is not a hot take.
This movie got way too much hate
😅 no it didn't
@@tonybeltran4366 last act is pretty whack but imo it got a weird and excessive amount of hate. You can have yours.
It's just a lil bit crappy. Marvel have definitely made worse, but honestly it felt like they weren't really trying with this one
@@Deimos2k5 idk that kind of hyperbole is what makes online discourse frustrating. Ofcourse they were trying. For some, it didn’t work and they didn’t have the time, money or ideas needed to crush the landing. Happens to a lot of movies. The good parts were fun but the bad parts are quite distracting
Because u expect too much..
This would have to happen AFTER Loki season 1 because there was only one Kang (He Who Remained) and one universe, until the events of that season allowed the multiverse to come into being. Without a multiverse there can be no 'Council of Kangs' to exile *this* Kang to the Quantum Realm.
Technically there is never not a multiverse, as the events of Loki don’t take place in any timeline. So they only happen in the memories of the people who experienced them.
@@NerdyNightly the events of Loki happening aren’t effecting what is happening Ny in the multiverse regardless of it it happens outside of the timeline or not. U have to physically be in the timeline to effect it. And silvie did just that in episode 2 when she set off all the charges and sent them all over the timeline, which is where the new branches began to splinter of u remember. From that point foward, regardless of what was going on outside the timeline on the tva, the multiverse was set into play. Before silvie set the charges in episode two, there definitely was only one universe. They showcased it all throughout the season. Many images from Miss minutes showing the one singular spherical line.
“We are doing drugs legally”most Canadian thing I’ve ever heard 🤣 love y’all’s reactions.Hi from Seattle 👋
About why the probability storm copies went away - I thought it was because they weren't on their own anymore and observed each other, which collapses the probabilities into a locked state. Pop-sci quantum physics.
Yes that was my thought too. They collapsed the wave-function.
Kang could disintegrate lots of humanoids but never even tried to with the Ants... or Scott
I think Claroos was confused by Kang's comment to Scott about leaving. He wasn't referring to the earlier deal, but the moment there at the end of battle where they were all going home. Of course, Kang is a little insane; so you can't be sure of what he meant at all.
My review of Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania
1: I’ll agree it’s not a perfect movie but I actually really like it and I think it’s the right project to start Phase 5
2: The comedy was funny but there were some times that it was kinda cringe or odd
3: M.O.D.O.K was a interesting character and I like his design but I didn’t like that they killed him off and it doesn’t matter of his face because he is supposed to look goofy regardless
4: Cassie Lang deserved better in this movie she was done kinda dirty although I did like her in the movie and I’m excited for her return in possibly in the future and be a part of the Young Avengers
5: Don’t you dare disrespect Kang The Conqueror he is a menacing villain, very badass, and don’t you dare disrespect his Comic Accurate suit it’s one of the best suits of all time and straight up ripped out of the comics although he was done dirty in this movie he is still one of my favorite MCU villains
6: Disrespected the post credit scenes in this movie which is Council of Kangs reveal and set up to Avengers: The Kang Dynasty which is now Doomsday but he is still going to return and the Loki Season 2 teaser was insane and one of the greatest shows of all time
7: It is a 7.5/10 movie it’s not a bad movie it’s pretty good
I actually didn't mind Darren Cross becoming M.O.D.O.K., but similar to Adam Warlock in Guardians 3 his development/redemption felt rushed.
I actually really like adam warlock in guardians 3 it's his first appearance there's so much more character development that can be done with that character he hasn't even learnt magic yet maybe he'll learn from krugarr
At least with Adam Warlock he seems uncomfortable doing bad bad things/being the bad guy. Cross abruptly caring that anyone thinks he's bad after two movies of not doing that was...weird.
Adam didn't feel rushed. He's premature and a day old. He's literally learning everything for the first time.
The thing about Kang, the story armor that he has is that while it is one character, it is infinite versions of that character. They can do; literally, anything with the character. His threat level isn't a finite thing... they just need to bring in another version of him. This Kang wasn't the Kang in Loki
I like to think Michael Douglas was playing Hank as starting to go a little bit senile, but still self aware enough to enjoy the ride.
I was sad no one made a 'double penetration' joke when Hank first was flying the flying thing.
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That guy's about to remind you of Professor Charles Xavier from the X-Men movies.
Kang is not in his full power in Quantum realm. That's why other kangs put him in there, and I'm telling you he didn't die.
Comic book Kang has no powers, his threat is his future tech suit, ability to grab tech and resources from different eras, his tactical skills and scientific knowledge, help he gets from the Council of Kangs, and the fact that he sometimes has super-powered troops or even armies at his disposal. Regarding the Ooze, learning other languages or information through a liquid is a concept seen before in several stories such as JOHN CARTER and Grant Morrison's THE INVISIBLES.
The "drink the ooze" thing is ripped straight from John Carter.....which very umderated and highly recommended
I really like that movie
Remember one important thing... After Loki the timeline is changed. We have variants and branches now. Janet can NOT have met Kang at the end of the Ant Man and The Wasp (as there were no Kang variants until Loki) but now that Loki (Sylvie) has killed Kang, there are Kangs everywhere... Aaagh!
Also, was the one Janet met the one who set up the TVA? If so, they just killed him earlier than Sylvie did... AAAAAGH!
the multiverse has existed in the MCU since the beginning. Sylvie killing he who remains happens outside of time so therefore the timeline we have been observing has never been affected by any of the events that happen in Loki, its insanely confusing but its impossible for the multiverse to not exist
It is affected by that. The only way the kang varients would appear is when Sylvie killed He Who Remains. They literally say it and Loki s2 finale confirms this too@@Pobsworth
1:10:58 You fail to understand what makes Kang the conqueror an Thanos level nemesis, is that Kang always finds a way to cheat death, even if you manage to kill that one kang variant, Kang always comes back, he can transfer his mind to one of his variants body, and if you kill one kang, his variants will take its place, takeover that Kangs empire and go out to conquer something else.
The big problem is that the depiction of MODOK (MODOFK?) is so authentic to the comic book which is why he seems so weird to the average movie-goer.
Katy O'Brian who played Jentorra in this, and Elia Kane in Mandlorian, is an accomplished martial artist, so as far as I know she didn't have to get extra ripped for this movie
In Giant Man form, Scott gains power similar to the way Hulk becomes stronger and more invulnerable. Think of the airport fight in Civil War and blasting out of Avengers HQ in Endgame.
Cassie calling out Scott, saying people still need help, to me is one of my favorite parts. Even if you saved the world, your work doesn’t end (Doctor Strange, Thor, Wakanda, Falcon/Captain America, Ant-Man, etc;).
This was basically an extended episode of Rick and morty
33:16 The Dewey decibel system is only for audiobooks
I guess you can say that M.O.D.O.K has some sort of an arc,cause he does something good at the end...High Evolutionary in Guardians 3 was way more threatening than Kang in Quantumania...
The biggest problem with the movie is its core premise - the silliest Avengers (though maybe not the weakest) battle a villain we're expected to fear more than Thanos... and win?
Imagine that instead they get demolished and only Cassie escapes alive, now hellbent on putting together a Young team Mighty enough to AVENGE her family. Real tension, real stakes, looming threat, a real direction for the franchise currently.
This isn’t even kang at 50%. He basically got nerfed being in the quantum realm. And judging by how the movie turned out probably isn’t the strongest one we have yet to see.
While very likely true, the movie didn't tell us that this was a "weak" version. I was under the impression that this variant had already conquered/destroyed several universes and had been exiled by their peers for it, implying that he was one of the more powerful Kangs.
We shall see though.
@@offcenterideas actually yes the movie did tell you that. he got introducted as an exile with no power. and without his ship's core, his suit was all he had and doesnt reflect the true power of his arsenal.
also the premise of this show was ''look out for the little guy'' telling us that even an ant can be the end of a conqueror. that is why thorough the whole movie, whenever kang belittle someone, that someone turned out a pain in his ass later.
which was a good message. and im glad they didnt sweep that theme under the rug to kiss kang's ass just so we know what a real deal he is. because we know that. and we aint done with the character by a long shot.
kang at his early stage. the same stage that people use to make fun of thanos for only sitting on his throne and do nothing
1:14:11 Because they're are different levels to that realm as janet says in this movie. She sent him to gather some radiation nd thats all. Also movie can't make mistakes, it is humans that make them. Unless yall want A.I to do it
Kang is I'd say nearly as strong as Thanos but the fact there's so many of him makes him more dangerous
After explaining that you're both high, it makes the reaction more fun watching you two. Nerdy laughing at everything and Clarus is like "focus, focus, stay focused" 😂😂.
Ants aren't stronger than humans. It's just that strength isn't really a factor when you're that small. If you actually supersized an ant to human size, their legs would shatter under their own weight.
this kang was trying to get out to try and stop the other kang's, so he was kinda a good guy but was willing to destroy timelines to stop the other versions of him
Janet being the hero, "Oh, you are killing people!" All of that sh!t, and Kang is over there like, "Oh, that doesn't matter."
No BS, at the final part of the Multiversal Saga people will be routing for Kang, or saying that Kang is right, like as Kang said, and the other versions of his and those things, they will destroy the timelines, or the incusions will destroy the Universes and timelines anyway, so there is no real way to save the people that Janet mentions, because they are all going to die anyways, and so they would be left with, "it's either they die, or everyone dies," kind of situation, where sacrificing a few lives and universes means and ensures the survival of everyone else, or at least save as much as can be saved, because in this situation with Kang and the incursions and all that not everyone can be saved.
Am I the only one who notice kangs hand to hand combat?
As a diabetic I can sympathize with the shortage of savory edibles in the world. Everything is just loaded with sugar at my local shop.
“You can’t untake an edible”
Oh boy.
fun fact: the writers of avengers endgame wanted to use ants in the final battle, but decided against it once they realized they couldn't figure out a reasonable way to for thanos and his army to beat them, i'm not kidding
This movie is way underrated. Certainly not perfect, but definitely better than it was made out to be, and better than the majority of post-Endgame MCU movies.
I hate the Ant-Man suit in this movie. Ant-Man's suit withstood blast from Kang's ships, Kang's own blast, but when he gets beat up by Kang, then his suit breaks. They made Ant-Man's suit durable to the point where it didn't make sense.
How can the ant men take the core they're using to escape with at the end. If they take it, then there's no portal
Michelle Pfeiffer's contract just says: permanent duck face or payments voided
1:13:50 the inability to actually think and comprehend a movie on first viewing.. smh this is a clear observation of people who are full of themselves. They're sooooo smart
What happened was the probability of them doing literally anything else collapsed into a singular action
This was a great movie... to watch drunk on a Thursday on my TV, knowing that I didn't pay for it. It would have sucked to blow money on a theater ticket to see this.
That's fine and all but we go to theaters for different reasons. I go for the dark room, large screen, full immersive surround sounds, lounge chairs, with some snacks. Quantumania may not have been the best MCU film but it was a spectacle of sight and sound that made me appreciate it even more than watching it at home.
And some of us have quite a few reasons to prefer watching at home and find the theater experience quite obnoxious. Horses for courses.
@@VerticalBlank like I said Perfectly fine. Movie gets a lot of shit, just wanted to go up to bat for it a bit.
The Major problem marvel has right now is that everyone expects endgame level stuffs ( the story, the stakes, the villains). Y'all need to chill, let them build up. There's literally no way they are showing the most powerful variant of Kang 3-4 years before Kang dynasty without proper build up. Think of it has being in the age of ultron phase. They did a great job showing Kang was weakened but still a force, move on.
If you aren't happy with Quantumania (so are MOST of US FANS), don't worry; the next MCU movie to watch on Disney+ is a really solid movie and a perfect Marvel swansong from James Gunn, not to mention it's gonna be an absolute tearjerker!
Kang Did not betray Antman , antman betrayed Kang when he refused to give Kang the Multiversal core when Kang asked
Cause Janet told Scott not to do it
The Kang Took it by force and thereafter the deal was off
Ant man’s suit increases his strength when he changes size
Kang says it himself "He is just a man". But a man with emense knowledge of the Multi-verse
Hey, Thanos got beat by squirrels! The Marvel world is crazy!
You are disappointed because one version of died, but that doesn't matter, The thing about Kang is that you kill one Kang, and another one will show up and take its place. And His Variants are already out there and they can literally do anything in the multiverse
1:03:09 no chemistry??? Im guessing you haven't watched all 3 antman films. Little did you know they are all connected, so the love they had from the 2 one is still there. They were clearly separated the whole movie soooooo, why are yall expecting the love story to be more prominent. Its crazy what people complain about when they have know idea what they're talking about
"did he ooze in her mouth too?"
"yes, it's a family affair."
what the FU--
Well, I can say I’ve seen (at least some of) it now… & agree, the first part seemed interesting but it really fell off in the second part. Overall a solid Meh.
The first time we *really* see Thanos on screen - within 3 mins he's bested Thor, battered the Hulk and murdered loki. We have seen 2 kangs now lose to "comedy" characters. His threat is lacking big time. They should have killed off scott here & set the stakes. He sacrifices himself to keep this kang contained cos he's just so powerful. Hell, even have Cassie be forced to close the portal trapping scott with kang who kills him in a 1 sides ass whooping(play the "we just both have to lose!" line hard here), really twist the knife. would have been good to get those 'Infinity War' vibes again at the end cos it would really set up all the OG avengers at risk of being killed(cos they all pretty much have replacements now, so marvel can afford to play a lil' less safe)
Quantity has a quality all of its own…
That said, this was a Kang in exile, stripped of most of his power and resources.
The one in Loki is complacent and overconfident.
We haven’t really seen Kang yet, much less a multiverse of him.
We've only seen a Kang that was stripped of most of his power and one that didn't mind dying. We've yet to see a Kang that actually wants to win AND has the power to do so
Aww, you should probably run to the store and get a box of tissues, cause crying on the internet ain’t gonna soak up them tears my friend. 😭😭😜
"No MAN! I'm 'tall.' I'm 'tall.'"
The thing about kang that u gotta remember is that he’s not just one person’ there’s going to be hundreds of king’s out there all with different powers and time travelling abilities’ I’m pretty sure that MARVEL said there was at least one or two in each universe’ I think there’s going to be a couple like this one that will be a bit easier to take down than others and some clearly impossible’ if I’m correct MARVELS secret wars is supposed to have something to do with all the kang’s coming together and the all the new super heroes having to defeat them all’ the only real threatening thing I find with kang’s is that unlike Thanos since they have the ability to travel through time without having to find any stones they will have the opportunity to travel through time and get rid of super heroes before they even become AVENGERS or get their powers’
4:37 remember when superheroes had actual practical costumes not just cgi i miss those days like when iron man and thor had actual helmets i miss those days
Is that friggin Ryan Boo-gara from BUN/Watcher at 4:07?
lmaoo yeah. i watched it for the first time today and gasped when he came on screen! I'm so glad I didn't see this movie in cinemas because i would've shouted loudly
Tchalla opened up the world to vibranium, maybe Hank got a hold of a little. They're is always logic in a knowledge gap.
You absolutely missed that the ants had evolved to a type 2 civilization. ADVANCED beyond most in the galaxy.
Scott’s book is actually something you can preorder now. It’s dropping early September.
My favorite funny moments were Scott’s audiobook, Quaz’s powers, and M.O.D.O.F.K.
Three things in particular that I liked about this film:
1.) Scott and Hope now have portable suits.
2.) No matter the situation, Scott’s driving force is his daughter Cassie.
3.) The final fight between Scott/Ant-Man vs. Nathaniel/Kang.
They didn’t say her codename, but Cassie in her suit is known as Stature. I feel like the citrus scene is a callback to Scott needing orange slices after getting a double whammer from Iron Man and War Machine.
We didn’t get to see Scott’s friends in this movie, but Veb was portrayed by David Dastmalchian - the same actor who portrayed Kurt.
Jentorra was portrayed by Katy O’Brian, the same actress who portrayed Elia Kane in The Mandalorian.
Parts of this movie gave me Star Wars, Guardians, TRON: Legacy, and Avatar vibes all at once.
The first post-credit scene showcases the Council of Kangs. The three variants that spoke in order of appearance were Rama-Tut, Centurion, and Immortus.
There was one variant who teleported wearing a suit and tie. He’s known as Mr. Gryphon.
This paves the way to Avengers: The Kang Dynasty.
What I’m about to say is a rumor. I’d take it with a grain of salt, but in the event that they end up making a second season of Moon Knight they’ll consider making Rama-Tut the next main villain.
As for the second post-credit scene, I don’t know if Victor Timely is a member of the council and I definitely don’t know if Mobius regained his memories or not, but for now I’ll take comfort knowing he and Loki are working together again.
The adventure continues in Loki season 2, and you’ll be happy to know that we finally have a release date. It’ll premiere on Friday, October 6.
They also announced that Maya Lopez’ solo series Echo will premiere on Wednesday, November 29. All episodes are expected to drop that day.
I don't get how people complain about nano tech suits and the bunching up of the shirt. Yet tony stark wears metal suit, and nobody worries about his clothes. But oooh no let the ant men has somewhat nano tech
Him: "I'm already so high"
Me: subscribe! 😂❤❤
Awwww... What a buzz kill... LOL! Go back and do it AFTER the "cleansssse..." Worth it. My "personal" choice for the "psychédélique" snack bar ("🎶Let's all go to the LObby!🎶") was a square from a "Cosmic Magic Mushroom Bar." One square. I STRESS. One... I'll be saving the other squares for just such occasions.
I have to say this really took me back to the late 60's and early 70's issues of Marvel. "Doctor Strange." "Silver Surfer." "Fantastic Four." "Adam Warlock" (the TRUE mind f#%k comic.) It's what "The Eternals" SHOULD have been.
i wish i was high when i saw this movie.... instead of what i saw in sober..
I think it was a fun enough movie and really cool with the design of the quantum realm.
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Can you make friends with Abiyoyo?
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Me neither.
I can't tell if Nerdy needs to smoke more, or eat less edibles...
My best guess about the probability thing is they observed each other, thus nullifying the schrodingers cat? The answer is Quantum something.
I was wondering did he eat her edible after that she can't eat it cause he sooo stoned got me super jealous
I did yeah...
The only reason you stopped “digging it” is because you didn’t know what was going on basically them ants transformed into a Type 2 civilisation when they traveled thousands of years in a day so they had the power of a star and was super intelligent hence why they was able to weaken Kang also Kang was more weak is because he was exiled to the qauntum realm obviously Kang relise on time and power so he was limited to that in the qauntum realm otherwise he would be unstoppable like Janet saw when she touched his ship also you know he is still very powerful when weakened because at the end he trapped Scott in a different universe hence why you see purple and green everywhere which are the colours of Kang and everyone around him on the street looks at him really weird
Time different in quantam realm and quantam vortex
the wasp was in this movie? barely noticed
the skill of the 4 main actors did not save this film from being so boring as to be quickly forgettable.
I kinda wish I was also high when I saw this now…
Also Scotts not a genius, he has no idea what quantum means yet Cassie does
Really enjoyed your reaction
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Veb!
pretty sure the woman who accused Jonathan majors admitted to lying for monetary gain.
It was a collaborative effort between her and a couple of guys that he went to college with, they just forgot to actually put in some "effort". The fact that super politically woke Disney didn’t fire him instantly, and are actually backing him up, I mean that alone is a pretty solid indication that the allegations aren’t very credible lol.
This reaction format would be funnier reacting to things that don’t fit being high
the characters in this really didnt make too much sense to me. Hope and Hank set foot in the quantum realm and see a freaking ship flying around and they hardly even react to it.
Wasn’t perfect but it wasn’t as terrible as people say it was. I give it a c+ or B-.
I’m this guy except I was on lsd, I love this movie
But Clarus… you made a book.. -let. The quote book. 😁
AntMan and the Wasp Quantumania Reaction & Review, with Nerdy Highly
Scott was on another level, when they was dusted, not so deep.
Katie's abs need to show up in Mando.
Where are they getting 7 holes?
2 ears, 2 eyes, 2 nostrils, mouth, one in the front (assuming Scott is cis), one in the back.
I doubt the eyes count as orifices, though I don't know your medical history...
@@Halbam This person used the term "cis", so there’s a strong possibility that they don't even know their medical history lol. But hey, that’s science fiction for ya! 🤣
Kang was awesome, I love that Cassie’s suit is purple similar to how Kate’s is from Hawkeye & then you have Black panther’s suit has purple energy & Kang’s was purple a bit too. idk much about MOODOK other than he’s an Ironman AIM villain but I liked them tying it back to antman 1 & hope the shit with the Kang actor gets resolved idk if there gonna reacts him or not but he’s great in the role. I’d rather him be okay than all the Ezra shit
Scott doesn't have superpowers, however, he does have the suit which is designed to protect his body from the stress of size-changing, and he has fought alongside Steve Rogers, so at the very least he has learned how to throw a punch and how to take one.
HEADLINE: Beautiful Woman Puts Up With Stoned Boyfriend : ) Really funny dude ; )
A drug user passed judgement on a violent man🤔
The blue face is great
20 minutes into the movie and he says the plot is meh?? How do you infer that?
Don't worry, i'm stoned too!