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don't take this some perverse analyzation of your character, but from this video and the ones before it i think you, as well as I, struggle with categorizing things. what i mean by that is that our way of perceiving things hinges on the genres and types we use to describe them. I honestly think genres are completely stupid and have hindered my own creative strength by forcing me to turn songs into hat they should sound like, not some experimental idea that doesn't use anyone's preconceived ideas of genre. i feel like it might be the same for you as a youtuber. anyway im kind of tired remind me to finish the thought
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@@quifesco3635 Genres are incredibly important for finding music, you would only know half the music you know because it had been categorized into an accessible label for you to find more like it, if genre's weren't important then we'd just be referring to music in "scenes" but we can't since musicians outside those scenes still make songs in those certain styles. Genre theory and taxonomy is important and I believe there should be more of it. I hate this idea that's come up in the last few years were people are becoming anti-genre or believing that genres are pointless. The progression of music in the last 100 years was reliant on the history and culture surrounding genres.
@@kelechi_77 i agree with this and it makes me rethink some of what i've said, i'm more afraid of perceiving things in aesthetics, and creating ideas of the culture and style and history behind these genres that we treat kind of stupidly. i just can't stand people who live their life seeing things as different aesthetics. 70s, 00s, punk, vaporwave) yes, genre helps you discover the art, but you have to put it aside for a bit to treat it as it's own work.
bro literally same, I have a playlist that I update almost every day with new songs lolol but I do have to admit, it's getting harder to find new artists and older artists aren't getting as many views (goreshit aside)
Yeah same here, Breakcore is honestly the easiest stuff to find for me as well. Dude shoulda made "Future Riddim is dead" and it would have made a bit more sense. That shit is like finding buried treasure.
the problem is, break core as he gets into, isnt really anything defined. my favorite vaporwave artist i cant even bringup, because people just scream its not vaporwave. had a conversation with the guy, and the irony of music, is the album art defines the genre more than the actual music a lot of times.
Hi ...this is Jason Bong-Ra...got this in my feed and congratulate for a great piece of work and energy put into it. Thanks for reminding me I'm getting old ;) Take care!
Your album 'New Millennium Dreadz' blew me away when I was 18 and launched my lifelong interest in breakcore and I loved your work, including the colab with Sickboy, ever since.
Bong Ra breakcore originator! Your last set at Bangface was one of my best ever musical experiences. I regularly play Murder You at the end of a dub set to confuse the crowd. Huge thanks for everything!
@@Darkfreed0m I get what you mean, certain genres aren’t really meant for the general public and should probably have their own fanbases, and a lot of genres settle into this over time.
Sewertranny keeps making garbage beats after their ""gf"" killed themselves lol, tonnes of trooncore Breakcore artists keep appearing and making shitty breakcore and some Breakcore that isn't even breakcore, it's liquid DNB but they all live in a gotdamn echochaimber so nothing gets through to them Plus Acidgirl makes the worst Breakcore because it's the same generic shit over and over again with a random generic shitposting title
Either that or "Ultrakill type beat no. 666". I would say breakcore is indeed not completely dead so to speak, it's just revived in a misunderstood manner. Still though across all that's happened, therer are a few artists here and there that DO understand how to do breakcore rather than just make a misbranded jungle/dnb genre for the sextrillionth time for that tiktok zoomer clout.
word. A lot of it is just ambient DnB or Jungle. Venetian Snares, Igorrr, The Flashbulb and many others make...Breakcore. Nothing wrong with ambient jungle and DnB, I LOVE those genres, but Breakcore is different and it's neat.
I think Sewerslvt isn’t the problem, it’s all the people trying to imitate her and not even doing it well, and also things like the clibait ’brekcore’ mixes, turning a form of art into a masspoduced aesthetic.
True like, i think some of their older content is like very edgy but like istg all i see is ppl taking that and cranking that shit up to 11 with no rhyme or reason to the point i just stopped listening to their music for a while. But now i listen to their songs again and ngl its pretty good as i remember i js dont rlly fw sewerslvt as a person tho-
@@Ivorys_slushie I got into this whole amen break sampling rabbit hole through those ambient jungle videos that are 1 or 2 hours long back then. I would like to mentione gta 3's and liberty city stories' msx fm station has another huge factor too as I had no business jamming real hard to those two stations back when I was a kid. I kept seeing jvne's name all around at the time and decided to take a listen, I would say though I don't fw her music anymore. It's just now my preference in this genre has been reshapped, I still do think jvne's songs are pretty neat and all but that style of jungle/dnb is too generic and has been copied everywhere else. I do know this style of euphoric/atmospheric breaks was first adopted from her and all but it has gotten to the point where it's the same case as drift phonk where everyone just tries to copy eachother with the instant spamming of loud bass kicks or the cow bell. From another standing point, I try to separate an artist with their creation knowing how jvne is a controversial individual in itself. I don't like jvne as a person because of their past actions, I don't like their music because it's not my preference anymore not because of what the artist has done in the past
@@wills.junks7 tru and ig its the right approach to interact w/ music like if the artist done sum fucked up shit you can still enjoy their music theres only a few exceptions when the song is actually fucked up like their child sacrifice ep but still i like their albums like skitzofrenia sim, we had good times together dont forget that, IRLY and draining love story
@@Ivorys_slushie yeah exactly, I do find some of their songs pretty fucked up and some are good, some are decent. She definitely has a knack for creating good tracks that's for sure. Anywho though, in regards of the huge misidentification of breakcore and jungle in this day and age of tiktok mfs trying to claim huge amounts of clout. You tend to find some good artists along the way, it's just sometimes the way they misintepret their creations to be the so called "breakcore" creations. This whole thing has basically ruined an entire drum break focused genres because everyone would just blab out "breakcore! ultrakill! sewerslvt!" As soon as they hear one single amen break sample on a song
@@wills.junks7 TRUUEE LMAO if i show SIN MIEDO by jpegmafia to them theyre gonna freak the fuck out because it has like 13 seconds of using a sample commonly used in drum n bass songs Hell even one of the scaring the hoes songs that had a amenbreak in the background lolll
they all dead lol, and Henry Collins from Shitmat is pimping out his international crisp (potato chip) packet collection on Good Morning TV now in a lovely beige sweater... instead of doing a Henry Collins/Henry rollins collaboration which would be \m/
I'm an oldschool breakcore head and member of the Bangface hard crew and I like all the new stuff, Sewerslvt and Machine Girl are fucking dope, its nice to hear people out there pushing boundaries and doing something different. Recs: Anything off Varispeed or Love love records. Wisp - synthy classy breakcore Spongebob Squarewave - ott cheesey "happy"-Breakcore Shere Khan - memed out Breakcore, masterfully done Sound Murderer - one of the OGs 0=0 - blissful Ragga breakcore Platapussy - again more really good ragga core Usedtobecool - chip breakcore Murdahorse Marousa Laxenchaos Biohanna Iglooghost Wan Bushi Datach'i Dolphin My favourite is possibly The Teknoist, Like a Hurricane Made of Zombies is a classic album in the genre that we should all listen to at least once. Thanks for the recs, some good stuff in the video. Try and get over for Bangface some time, best Breakcore festival on the planet.
dolphin is dope, idk how deep you are into that type of uk/industrial hardcore but I'd also recommend nagazaki and djipe for that industrial hardcore sound with lots of break choppage. also fish&rice aka hellfish & akira are goated
breakcore got tiktok-ified and atmospheric dnb was mislabelled as breakcore constantly, purely because it has the word 'core' in it and sounds cool to tiktok 14 year olds who are too lazy to do any research and believe everything on the internet that they see :D the same thing happened to phonk, with phonk being seen purely as 'tokyo drift car edit cowbell' music despite it having many deeper layers and subgenres.
I remember similar mislabeling etc during the MySpace days. Also so many crappy rock bands tagging themselves as breakcore because I guess anything ending in “core” confused them?
Same thing happened to dubstep because people kept mislabeling things that aren't even close dubstep and absolutely ruined the image of what people think of the genre.
@@supercellex4D Not even close, lmao. What happened to dubstep is that it diversified into many different subgenres, and a lot of older fans didn't like some of those new styles and thus insisted it wasn't "real dubstep" but "brostep" instead. Unless you're referring to normies who thought anything with wobbles was "dubstep", in which case ... they really did not influence the dubstep scene in any way like happened with breakcore and chillout drill n bass
❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 oh damn we just got to the GoldenBoy section. Easily one of my favorites and huge reason why I got back into breakcore after a hiatus around 2013. RIP Paris. And yeah that album INMFTTH is top tier 🖤
RIP DJ Sammy P. I only got to know them through other breakcore artist friends, but they were good fun and someone that I will remember for a long time.
As a big Metalhead I can't help but see the similarities between the extreme metal community and the edm communities. "Is Metalcore punk or metal?" "Is Sewerslvt Breakcore or Ambient Jungle?" The real answer is it doesn't matter and people shoukd just enjoy music. Regardless of what any one person thinks in the long run Jvne will be probably be seen as Breakcore the same way early Linkin Park is now Metal instead of "hard rock".
@guyg.8529 Yeah the ambience of stuff like Igorr and Venetian Snares was what drew me in coming from an extreme metal background. Metal definitely has the worst sub dividing though. Shit like "Blackened Deathcore" just doesn't even sound real lol
I don't consider Linkin Park nu-metal. There's a minimum level of intensity that much of their material fails to meet. Same with Tool not being prog metal, System of a Down not being alt metal, etc. Sure, there are some songs that meet the minimum criteria (Hit The Floor, Ticks & Leeches, and War, respectively) but they are a minority in their catalogues, which focuses on slower tempos, sung vocals, and clear mixes. That said, the distinction is largely irrelevant, like you pointed out. Those terms are only useful for getting a grasp of the soundscape you find yourself in and the terms of engagement and expectations of the audience. It's a spectrum of sound and cutting it up is only useful for communication about it.
@@ThomasWake-k9jI think the mistake isn’t caring about the differences, it’s identifying with and gatekeeping based upon the differences. With any scene you can keep carving out microgenres if you want but most of the time you’re not really gaining anything by doing it except a more nuanced understanding of your own tastes - and if you start being an asshole to people based on that carving up, then you lose a lot more than you could ever gain.
idk why a lot of people seem to have a similar relationship with sewerslvt. like for me they were making the best music i had ever heard at that point, but somehow everytime i hear any of it i feel this deep dread, like it reminds me of the worst time in my entire life 😭😭 maybe its like related to lockdown or something idk but ive heard it a LOT
I actually feel the opposite, her music feels sorta hopeful to me. Love the contrast of her chaotic beats with a really pretty melodies or sounds which guide you through the chaos. Glad that Jvne is back as Cynthoni now :)
Kinda hilarious to me that it breaks down to "genre built on not following rules and indie production is ruined by kids not following rules with their indie production"
Agree. Watching the video I felt a heavy "Grrrr kids ruin everything >:(" sentiment from the community that the video showed. Like isn't breakcore about breaking rules and having fun? I'm still kinda confused about what breakcore is
@@valenxizaw245 Breakcore always felt like the punk rock of electronic music for me. Sure you can find well produced, high-quality sounding artists like Venetian Snares, but within the same genre you can also find Oxygenfad and Nero's Day At Disneyland. Like an old friend used to say about any kind of weird/outsider art: "It's Calvinball."
@@valenxizaw245 Breakcore literally just means hardcore techno with breakbeats. Hence break-core. It has nothing to do with breaking anything, lol... Half the stuff these "kids" are making isn't even breakcore, but drill n bass. People will call any fast jungle beat "breakcore" nowadays, lmao. It only takes a couple of seconds to look up what these words mean
This is an incredibly important video, thank you so much for making this. It is clearly well-researched and extremely passionate about the subject at hand. This has been a genre I've been in love with for 10 years now (and more to come!) and I've been trying to put into words why I don't like where the genre has been heading but there was a lot more to it than just "Oh its getting popular." I feel like this video puts what I've been feeling into words.
I also think this video puts into perspective what my biggest issue with newer stuff is and that's just respect for the genre. I've always enjoyed less "breakcorey" styles of breakcore (Umio, for reference) but I always felt like there was some underlying respect and passion for the genre with what I was listening to. A lot of stuff I hear now almost feels like it's just following a trend and nothing felt truly passionate. I'm not looking for crazy choppage in my breaks or super brutal music -- as much as I like it -- but rather a clear showcase of wanting to strive for something passionate and creative. I don't get that with a lot of newer stuff. Bye2 as you mentioned I think is a fantastic example of contemporary breakcore; I don't recall the breaks being immensely crazy but I can tell there's an extreme amount of fun being had with the production
@@Fveal Breakcore used to be about a disregard or counter of popular culture and took alot of influence from the punk scene...at least mentally wise. Hence the harsh tone of it. I dont know what has happened nowadays but the stuff being labeled breakcore today is something else and I cant really get into it. Im still going crazy over the old stuff though so its not me just getting old but rather the new stuff sounding rather formulaic...the complete anti-thesis of the original breakcore.
So happy with how well this turned out. Thanks a bunch for really delving into our world and really taking a significant amount of time to truly understand and appreciation everything. Was a massive pleasure to help :)
It's very interesting being a fan of artists like bong-ra and venetian snares but also sewerslvt/cynthoni. I'm just in a place where I truly do not care about genre names and as long as it scratches my brain I'll listen to it. Also the problem of being a sewerslvt/cynthoni fan is that her sewerslvt alias was absolutely full of projects that she would end up deleting due to either the album covers or samples. A notable example is "don't be afraid of dying" which had an intro track that was just a 911 call of a child walking in on her brother after he shot himself and literally nothing else. Some of the song names from the albums that did stay up also just rub me the wrong way, titles like "kawaii razor blades" just feel so fetishy and disrespectful to me as someone who had SH issues until last year.
So genuinely glad that someone else enjoys the sound of some sewerslvt (as well as real breakcore) but doesn't like the more edgy tracks, I felt so alone in being a fan of some and a hater of others lol. It's really nice to see cynthoni being a completely different alias to sewerslvt and moving away from the less than tasteful styling (I hope she's actually grown a bit as a person too considering how long it's been).
@@crabinasuitShe definitely has, considering her last album was a memento. That was clearly a wakeup call to her and she's distancing herself from all that.
Same idrc about genres, if i like it I like it. As for the song names yea some are edgy as hell but I also see them the same way I do with the genres, idrc, I like the music. This is also coming from someone with current SH issues so maybe it'll be different for someone who's out of it vs someone still actively doing, that song is genuinely one of my favs of hers lol although that's just a coincidence cause the name of a song has absolutely no correlation to how much I like it. However couldn't you say the same for songs like mr kill yourself that they're also fetishizing it? I feel like someone can have those edgy names while still struggling with said things like SH and they just wanted to call it that, especially cause SH has been in quite a few of her album arts and that's the way she wanted to express it.
@@brandonzamora5718 by jvne's history they're also victim of SH and SA(Rumor has it that they where actually RP by the description of some music tracks on patreon or old uploads but please take this claim with a grain of salt) from what I've heard hence why their music is the way it is, most of it is a representation or a way to cope what they've experienced which is another explanation to why they tend to delete some music tracks and reupload or deleted forever, the only album that's an exception is the one mentioned "don't be afraid of dying" and I believe "it just gets worse". They have admitted that these old albums were done out of pure edgy values. Of course that doesn't justify their work in the end, but it does give an explanation as to why it is the way it is. Hate the intro but the music tracks are amazing, wish it didn't have the association with a literal horrible crime and the implications of automatic life ender, it would've just been nicer.
I've produced breakcore music for a solid 5 years now after being inspired by artists ike aphex twin, vsnares and machine girl. Kind of a disheartening feeling knowing someone could stumble upon my work and put it off because they hear an amen break and instantly associate it with the bad parts of this genre or assume I'm just another generic clout seeking zoomer hopping on tik-tok trends. I do this shit is out of pure love of the game man. I am prolly just being paranoid tho and im sure anyone with respect for the genre would give my stuff a fair shake lol and plenty have. (This comment is not an advertisement either idgaf I mostly do this for my own enjoyment)
Tbh same I sometimes have this weird feeling maybe my music will be cast aside and ridiculed because it's "not real breakcore" I have a full album on the way and I have thought about trashing it many times,,,
your conclution is giving me very similar feelings to how the dubstep/140 scene felt post 2011, with the new generation exploring sounds seen as too agressive for the older heads. But, in hindsight of that era some of the most interesting and groundbreaking tracks has been released post Skrillex despite the new publics relation to what dubstep is. The darker uk sound is still thriving underground today and even having a bit of a revival to a lesser extent. I have faith the new generation with time will learn more about the history of breakcore and would feel inspired by its older sound and flip that with newer modern ideas to keep the scene alive
@@vhroom3436 Be interested in your take on phonk? I first heard the term to describe a diverging sound of funk future garage that shared similarities with some of the vapourwave scene and future funk. But yeah hearing it recently It was very different in style. Reminded me of how Riddim became a genre that sounded nothing like what riddim had historically been used for.
@@thehearingaid i honestly have no take. I just know that the kind of phonk (drift phonk) that was popular on social media is just a small fraction of all of the phonk that's actually out there.
I love this video. Not because its well researched but it holds care for both sides of the argument and hears them out. As a top teir sewerslvt glazer I have to admit I was ignorant of the history of it. Regardless of if Sewerslvt is breakcore or not, I still love her music and the help she gave and gives me in hard times. Huge respect man.
I recommend the album Detrimentalist by Venetian Snares for breakcore starters. Not too harsh but still experimental for its time (2008). Very fun to listen to.
@@jeppyjepi remember when i first started listening to sewerslvt when they began to get popular, i was listening to detrimentalist a lot, as well as igorrr's hallelujah and several goreshit albums and mixes
I am 14 minutes into this video, and I can already tell that you 1000% set out what you intended to do. The editing, the research, the interviews. This is by far the most in depth catagorization of the history of breakcore. ONLY 14 MINUTES IN 😂. Now if you excuse ima watch the rest of this masterpiece
Actually there has been continuous anime influence on breakcore from the late 90s/early 00s way through to now. DJ Sharpnel (and related stuff), Cycheouts, CDR, Onomatopeee and Loli Ripe (who coined the name for lolicore subgenre) predate Goreshit. The anime aesthetics in breakcore and breakcore-adjacent music just kind of took off more in the 2010s.
Yeah, that's why people taking the "keep anime out of breakcore" thing seriously always made me wonder what do they really mean. Like just the new post-sewerslvt stuff, or are you against DJ Sharpnel and such too? There's a whole scene in Japan and it's been pretty influential, way before this new wave happened.
Venetian Snares, Kid606, Christoph De Babalon, Alec Empire, Bong-Ra, Machine Girl, Igorrr, Xanopticon, and even drill n bass artists like Aphex Twin, Bogdan Raczynski, Squarepusher, u-ziq, Wisp, The Flashbulb 🔥
This is a really well made video. As someone who found into breakcore thru sewerslvt's brand of emotionally-charged atmospheric & industrial beats, I think it's very tempting to write her music off as its own thing and sequester it from its cultural influences (and its cultural influence). As you mentioned in your video, most artists are going to bring their own identity & style into whatever music they create. I think her style made the waves it did, mainly with Gen Z for a reason. I'm glad for the new kinds of art we got to witness because of the waves her music made, and i think its cool that we got to see a new mode of expression from a lot of folks in my generation. Although that style has its fair share of slop to sift thru, i dont think that necessarily compromises the overall genre and true artistry always manages to shine thru regardless of labels. Overall, really awesome video and i learned a lot!
Amazing work! As a Sewerslvt fan its refreshing to finally have some good clarification on what breakcore really means. While I appreciate the take on Sewerslvt, I still feel like theres something genuinely special about their music that is still overlooked. In particular their last album. Its nothing revolutionary and certainly shows some amateur production, but I don’t think its unique combination of melancholic atmospheres and harsh beats has been successfully recreated since, despite the many imitators. Artists like Boys Hotel capture the gritty aesthetic well but miss the emotional core that made Sewerslvt so popular. This "depressing" aesthetic is what resonated with a generation of edgy teens, though I don't think is inherently immature.
I recommend the album Detrimentalist by Venetian Snares for breakcore starters. Not too harsh but still experimental for its time (2008). Its not depressing as the atmospheric Drum and Bass that Sewerslvt does, but its so much fun to listen to.
Its the vibes. the vibes and aesthetics of sewerslvt where always different on her first and last album. her last album had this almost dark noir kind of vibe to it. Where as her first was way more atmospheric and also had that dark texture to it. It was rough all around its edges but that just made it cut deeper.
Frankly I'm disappointed he didn't mention Schizophrenia Simulation. That is sewerslvt's standout album for me. It's an incredible experience from start to finish. The starting ambience of My Fvcked Up Head dropping perfectly into I Break my Heart and Yours, the dirty, visceral sound of I Bleed getting reprieved by Restlessness and the beautiful Existing Everywhere. I love it all! Even though Car Accident is kind of annoying after listening to it too many times I think it's a great intermission into the second half of the album. I always feel like I'm floating when I listen to Purple Hearts in Her Eyes. Then it just goes insane with Slvtcrusher and Ecocide Suite. You get the idea I'm running out of things to say haha. Hope I don't get flagged for spam for this long comment.
I think people are just afraid of change. Breakcore did not "die," and neither did Gen Z "ruin it." Both divisions are still present and appreciated in their own niches. People who dispute and fight against the younger generation's admiration for breakcore fail to recognize that their particular interests has now spread globally. It should be a wonderful thing that a younger generation is interested in a genre that appears to be dead, but instead of welcoming the younger breakcore fans, the older people are unable to understand that many people like things for many reasons. Both sides like various things about the music they label breakcore, and instead of fighting, gatekeeping, and arguing, just listen to what you like and avoid what you don't.
While I do agree that breakcore is not dead and that genres evolve over time and what not, there's this aura of absurdity that comes with the mislabelling of breakcore. The new 'breakcore' can easily be classified as a type of DnB with very little difficulty with even some tracks from the 90's resembling the current music. It's sorta different from the situations dubstep and phonk underwent were a subgenre that only encapsulates some of the principles of the genre becomes the popular one. At least in those cases you can argue that is the nature and evolution of the genre, whereas the changing point for breakcore is merely the mislabeling of another genre
Most of the new Gen Z breakcore is just DnB...and its not even creative or breaking boundaries, it always sounds the same. Even the DnB artists that have been doing music for decades are coming up with more creative music than this new "breakcore" wave.
@@heibk-2019 Gen Z'ers sort of remind me of younger versions of boomers' parents. It's weird how younger people seem to be even more fossilized and old in so many ways. You almost never hear any of these genres in public (in most of the USA at least).
what i hate the most about all this is that if you try to accurately explain the difference between Breakcore and the stuff people call Breakcore, they will accuse you of gatekeeping, and complain about "how limiting" the concept of genres is.. and it's like i never said you can't make this stuff, if anything i actually like the post-Sewerslvt Jungle/Ambient DnB stuff better.. my current personal theory is that the modern generation learned about Breakcore through Machine Girl, and found out about Sewerslvt through the same playlists that would often feature Machine Girl (usually ENA inspired playlists, or weirdcore playlists) and thus made the connection.. personally i found out about Breakcore through those 2000s Lolicore playlists (i'm not a lolicon i promise) and those "10 Hour ADHD Breakcore" playlists i used to listen to back in elementary/mid-school, along-side the occasional Speedcore and Mashcore those playlists tend to feature.. i'm not even that big a fan of the genre, and the older i get the less i like it actually.. but i do like DnB and its subgenres, and sometimes it's sad to see DnB culture dying out in favor of other genres hitting the mainstream (remember that time when everyone thought DnB was Dubstep? heck, even one of the members of Delta Heavy "allegedly" called out that behavior, or so i heard)
a RUclips recommendation of venetian snares made me realize how i love breaks. after going through many songs i can safely say my favorite genre is lolicore. how my dumb brain sees it is that breakcore feels kinda "serious" and lolicore is that but with nonsense high pitched Japanese girls singing or just cut up words. and they are so damn happy, exciting and insane. you can't not smile at the happy insanity blasting and destroying your ears. add some noisy shit to it and it's even better. i love it. i love it when I'm streaming and listening to stuff when someone pops up in chat saying "wtf is this shit" and leaves, that makes it even more amusing.
@@SilentOnion if you like Lolicore, i definitely recommend Furrycore (idk if that's what it's officially called, but i call it that) Gorehound for example sounds a lot like Goreshit in my opinion
Lmao @ the time when dubstep and dnb were such a popular trend that even people who normally care too little about music to even understand the concept of BPM were asking me to explain the difference between the 2
I started learning the basics of music making like 5 days ago and I already know that whatever I'll end up making, I sure as hell won't risk labeling it Breakcore and just make up a new genre instead.
im glad this video exists. i like knowing what genres im listening toand being able to explain it properly when getting new folks into it. the newer and "edgier" offshoots of it is what im attached to im gen z and very little else reflects how i feel and what i struiggle with than this stuff, especially when it feels less refined. to me the messiness adds to it. im learning to be okay when other people call what i like edgy or cringe, just like what you like even if everyone else hates it
i feel like we can tell people when something is or is not breakcore without putting their music down, help then find the genre they're looking for and the place they belong. saying that something is not something else does not make it inherently bad if anything i believe it helps people to find the community that they would thrive best in
That's funny because ... Venetian Snares is actually ground zero for this entire issue. He was by far the biggest name in breakcore, and usually the first that new fans would come across ... except a lot of his music wasn't really breakcore, which gave them a skewed perception of the genre from the start. Anytime they heard drill n bass it reminded them of some Venetian Snares tracks, and since Venetian Snares is known as "a breakcore producer" they then figured it must all be breakcore. Now those new fans have grown up, started making their own music under the "breakcore" banner they misunderstood the meaning of, and now this broader inaccurate usage is more prevalent than the original. Venetian Snares makes great breakcore but ironically his creativity made his popularity the indirect cause of the word having lost its meaning
@@DaveGreanYeah, calling venetian snares true breakcore is peak irony. Complicated because he was a big name regardless, but if he played at a breakcore party he would play the tracks that actually fit
@@DaveGrean his 90s and very early 2000s stuff was real breakcore tho, somewhere in 2008 a switch flipped in his brain and he turned to classic jungle with idm elements
Sewerslvt is one of a kind and I will always have a special place in my heart for her music. Glad she’s now back and continuing to make music again but in her absence there were lots of sewerslvt clones that tried to emulate her style and while they might have gotten a decent grasp on it they never were able to capture her style
thanks for being the person to finally and properly explain what the fuck ive been listening to. i will admit im one of the ambient synth depressed anime girl fans, but ive briefly tried to find older shit, but became super overwhelmed. im definitely using that reference doc a lot in the near future.
I find it odd that a lot of people put such a focus on Sewerslvt for things like "Ruining Breakcore" when it's mostly the listener's fault for not understanding the Breakcore label. I've listened to basically everything she's done under that moniker and now as Cynthoni I still love her music as it's able to hit deep into my heart or enable me to open my brain and meditate on emotions I don't know how to process yet. From my view, I don't see a reason to hate or get annoyed with people who think Sewerslvt = Breakcore as it isn't the artist's fault nor completely the fan's, I think it has more so to do with (Breakcore specifically) how it's an issue with certain genre's becoming too specific or almost scientific in it's labeling when the thing you're labeling isn't a state of matter that can be defined well with technical terminology, labels/genre's only work to a certain extent like differentiating Classical to Jazz. In short, I don't feel like it's worth becoming overly upset with someone over something that is hard to control or define in the first place, something that is outside their control. As for Sewerslvt's past, I feel it's redundant, especially what they did as a 16 y/o with a moniker having a big bang reference in it to even be mentioned as it only fans old flames for those who obsess over the past that have nothing to do with the present. I think anyone can recall how retarded they were during their teens and even I as a 20 y/o think the same (and will think the same of my current self years down the line). As for her other works that Sewerslvt made containing audio of self-harm, I personally don't have much experience with it besides hitting my own head, I've seen it with a few people I knew before, and it's something I have a hard time processing as I really can't explain my sentiments much besides the generic "darkness" and whatever romantization I can use to try and describe it. Whenever I hear the audio play during a song, specifically "This Fleeting Feeling", it's either two responses, I skip it because I'd like my mood to not be drained down the gutter, or I listen to it and quite literally be frozen as it causes me to feel so many emotions in the moment and upon the next song playing I immediately reflect on it and my own personal life as well. Like I said, I can't nor am able to explain my sentiments well or even feel like I have the right to say anything about the audio, so feel free to take what I said as nothing. With the thing about people hating weebs I feel is ironic cause like westerners have always put japanese shit on their album art or whatever for so long I feel like because it looks cool lmao. Like it's there with Machine Girl a bunch or just anywhere you look outside of music. idk man cry more lol, it's just an artstyle and like it looks sick af at times, I get how it can feel cheap at times but it's capabilities when done well are, imo, really impressive. As for the video I def will take it as a song reccomendation lmao and maybe read that book mentioned. Def wanna look more into what hardcore fans feel like what breakcore really is. It was also fun recognizing a bunch of songs/artists I've listened to before, it def gave me the chance to see how deep I am into Breakcore (which I'd say is like a light/med amount)
people dont like it when their community that they call home changes into something they don't really recognize, and they usually will figure out something to blame for it. i think this happens all the time with plenty of communities. also some people are just really touchy about genre names lol
I honestly love when people or a friend find out what breakcore is and they love it, it reminds me of when i first heard of it while no one was watching
originally came from squarepusher, enduser and vsnares camp, but over time i've grown fond of goreshit and some of the 'depressive breakcore' offerings (even though they're technically gen-z atmospheric dnb but i'll take it in all the same). i'd say like dnb, the rabbit hole goes pretty deep if you're willing to dive into many subgenre takes, and trace back the roots, as i did today from your extensive research. it's a sight to behold really seeing this many musical influences coming together in one melting pot, then you get some very cool projects happening, like blood of heroes for example, one of my personal fav group. in the end, what really matters is new music we've found along the way, regardless of genres or whatever they're called. thanks for your deep-dive efforts
TL;DR Breakcore is Breakbeat with (Early) Hardcore, it's Breaks + Hardcore Kicks (Distorted 909s) = Breakcore. And Breakcore isn't fast, just like Terrorcore, it's the energy that it delivers not the BPM itself!
15:50 and 29:01 surprised me alot, never in a million years would I have thought that I would hear someone talk about bye2 even though you mentioned her more popular songs. I believe that part of the magic of breakcore lies in its "underground-ness" , it is very easy to find crazy good songs which won't get any recognition in the form of very very low listens/views in comparaison to the production quality. soundcloud specifically excels at this
2:45 takes a man to admit these kinds of mistakes instead of ignore or hide them, earned a sub. Creativity and content creating is hard so don’t be too rough on yourself. 😊
The one thing I would have liked to hear about, was a segment on how the production aspect of breakcore changed throughout the years and why the heavily chopped amens became the staple sound that people can build up on, bc as you mentioned in the video, the amen break lends itself to be incorporated into any genre, but anyways, yeah, also I always say a cultural lesson on what breakcore is, always takes way too long when it comes to helping people "get" what it is, rather than showing them the production techniques (so they understand what they're listening for) and giving breakcore track recommendations like rmd vsnares bongra, bc I already know people will get confused when you give them tracks that lead to artists that don't exclusively (or almost exclusively) make breakcore etc etc
A casual listener is gonna have to do a lot more research to get it, but a beginner producer might just need a few screenshares on a discord call showing them a breakcore project, to get it
nu breakcore being co-opted as an aethstic for edgy teenagers is definitely a detriment to the genre. As someone who is a breakcore fan and huge fan of Lain and other works by ABe I hate that lain has been reduced to the meme breakcore icon for teenage girls with a host of random mental issues that they project onto her to say "shes literally me". It strips all the nuance, history, culture/cultural significant, and dilutes the art of the original material while making it way harder to find people interested in the stuff that made it interesting for me, instead just stripping the show down to the cute dissociated computer girl good vid btw, hopefully feel like you put out something you can be proud of vs the things that you regret, this is very researched and thoughtful.
maybe so. But I think that if they just added that extra layer to the new wave of breakcore it could be something great. I think Sewerslvt almost did that with a lot of her references to degeneracy and horrible stuff. But it never went anywhere and was abandoned after first album. Shame, going back it just don't hit like it used to.
I agree to an extent. I do think this mentality borders on gatekeeping, but I understand why it might irk some people on a personal level. As long as you don't take it too seriously, I don't care. People should be allowed to like whatever they like for whatever reason they like it. Kind of reminds me of punk in a way. It started off as a bit of a movement, but ultimately kind of just got dumbed down into bratty suburban teenager music over the years.
@urphakeandgey6308 I would argue it is gatekeeping, or at least, I've seen it been used to gatekeep based on the random stuff RUclips recommended to me. I remember reading the comments of some of the more higher viewed videos that had were of "normies" infiltrating the genre. I think that anxiety will always be a part of Breakcore. However, these were on nuBreakcore videos with an depressive anime aesthetic. This was already an "infiltration", but they couldn't see it because they were a part of it without knowing. When the oldheads pointed it out, they were called gatekeepers. Overtime, I saw heavier depressive & self-abusive language in the videos titles in abundance. I am also aware this language has also alwas been apart of the genre to " keep the normies out", but it's uually kept mostly to the artist's names & not quite used this extensively (to my knowledge). It felt more like channer / far-right tactics to keep vulnerable people within those closed gates by placating to their self-loathing than keeping uncurious people out. I eventually stopped listening to the genre when I started seeing video titles that were normalising pdf-ilic channer language. A shame because, I actually like the depressive aesthetic. Sometimes it helps me process stuff. But there comes a point where feels less like processing and more like isolating a community from people who could help them.
@@urphakeandgey6308 I dont take it too seriously, I try not to interact with the people doing their own weird thing with a thing I like. Its just a bummer when "let people like what they like" ends up lowering the quality of the content being created in that space. A big reason I stopped being so into breakcore was because of this sewerslt era and the clones and the slop it produced, combined with how overrun the community is with angsty teens that I dont enjoy interacting with. I get it, I was once an emo teen listening to emo, punk, metal, nightcore, happy hardcore and whatever else and I definitely was not respecting the culture of those things and probably consuming mostly the super popular stuff/slop. its a bummer to be an oldhead and i feel for the people more invested in the scene, to see the thing you love get a bit bastardized, but what can you do I guess
it's esentially hardcore jungle in my mind , chopped breaks, multiple pads, chopped pitched up vocals , maybe some hardcore kicks ..it's honestly whatever you want to perceive..that's why it's art/music.
Reminds me of the 2000s where a lot of alternative and numetal bands became popular and the oldschool fans said no...this is not real metal. And these kind of people still listen to their same few favorite bands for the past 20 years. That's okay, but others want to try out new things and have fun. Same with the EDM scene. Or when Babymetal became popular like a decade ago. Truly a traumatic experience for some.
@@DaveGrean That's not true. a distorted 909 kick, is a major breakcore trope, just like hoovers and Reese Bass tones... but those sounds are tropes in so many other genres. I get personal preferences. I have my own personal preferences. Authentic breakcore has breakbeats, and they're chopped and finely edited. Without the breaks, it's probably just hardcore or gabba, without the tight editing, it's just jungle.
@@ajplays-gamesandmusic4568 I mean, I thought it kind of spoke for itself that it also beeds breaks, lmao. I certainly didn't mean that the kicks would be enough lol
Found you channel today, and I have to say, the quality and effort putted in this video is 10/10, you made me remember the times people actually used to do research about themes, and not just do a quick look over and done. Excellent work at minimum you deserve thousands more of subscribers, likes!
i really have to give you kudos for your self awareness, man. the fake smart guy shit is a phase every cool person goes through. i had a very similar experience to yours - finding sewerslvt in 2020, thinking anything with a break was breakcore, the usual. i really regret those days and look back on them with cringe and hatred. my current favorite dnb/breakcore artist at the moment is enduser! i recommend checking out his stuff! XD
i just started watching and holy shit this mustve taken so much time. i really fucking appreciate the work youve put into this. reminds me a lot of "all my homies hate skrillex" idea-wise but still very much its own thing. i love it
no mention of renard? arguably one of the most influential artists in the mid-late 2000s breakcore tonal shift to a less serious and more playful sound. they took heavy inspiration from gabber and reggae + cardopusher's breakcore tracks, and went on to be a large influence on later breakcore artists like goreshit and shoebill + the wider electronic hardcore scene as a whole. also no japanese artists :( check out cycheouts for some japanese breakcore from the mid 90s
hey thanks for the mention, I'd like to say that renard was my first introduction to this whole sound 10 years ago and is the reason I do this shit now but cardopusher has for sure been a bigger influence on me lately - I feel as though renard was kind of the sewerslvt of their time in terms of being a gateway and probably shifting the sound in a way a lot of people weren't into but it's what hooked me
That's kinda strange. LapFoxTrax was my introduction into breakcore, hardcore and speedcore somewhere in 2009. Is renard just too niche for breakcore community?
Fantastic fucking video! Sent it to all my friends who also like the genre… i love the artistic fun visual you ise and the script is very easy to follow!
As someone who comes from the drum and bass scene, this is fascinating. I'm a sucker for pretty much all breakbeat type music, but this stuff always kept a certain distance. I love Venetian Snares, Igorrr, Ruby My Dear and some other stuff, but never really dabbled too much into the scene. Also, your style is amazing dude. This editing is so good for this topic. It feels like I'm watching a mid 2000's doc done today... which it's kind of exactly what it is lol.
Real great deep cuts here, especially on cracking open the Whelan's "Breakcore: Identity, Peer-to-Peer" (something I eyed in undergrad but was too stingy to pay the publisher...or even just dig on scihub). I'd still have to throw my critical 2 cents tho, as while Breakcore as Sub-Culture lives and dies less on technical specifics (between the spectrums of IDM to Drill n Bass and Jungle), but rather on the "communal vibes" of the time, I have to point out the either arbitrary or rather how clean-washed said "gate-keeping" was presented, obviously in that "That's not REAL Breakcore" is the classic "No True Scotsman", since beyond having a million ambiguous definitions, it's more used to pose the "Insiders" vs "Outsiders". There's obviously a complete lack of historical lineage that Zoomers would know or could really be exposed to, especially when originally Breakcore built itself on "vibes" as harsh as is, but to raise the barrier NOW is more just re-drawing the generation lines. But I have to point out the hypocrisy in practice, explained in the differential treatment of Goreshit vs Swrslvt, side-stepped with "I don't like Anime when it's shoved down my throat", and downplayed the Lolicore vs Edgy RUclipsr teen in the same level, but the fact the Breakcore community has given Goreshit clemency at all: Possibly because of seniority, possibly his metal band origins physically connect and travel in the scene, possibly even more that projects like Semantics are way closer in Break-style but still both his admission of depression and initial themes of edginess can only parallel Jvne Even beyond just "This is Ambience House-y DnB, not Breakcore", the knee-jerk reaction to Jvne has been FAR harsher, between not just the in-Breakcore community, but as well just straight up cancelled in the Sadboy Sheldon reveal (something more noteworthy that Jvne actively tried to erase, while you can still pretty much download Tomboyish love and dancefloor muthafucka straight on Goreshit's bandcamp easy). While not to demonize Leon or to absolve Jvne of being less of an imperfect victim, it's so drastic how everyone has to pull the "I always knew s/he was trouble, just look at the [Anime/Angsty themes/Sexualization/Trans-ness]" and it's more apparent that Jvne is symbolically treated as "the ultimate outsider/Zoomer shift" and therefore reviled in every facet. I find it less "What IS actually Breakcore" or "Why does it even matter" to be even more pertinent than "Breakcore is whatever it needs to be to keep the Zoomers out" and twisting the punk ethos of anti-establishment/anti-authority/anarchist communal and to suddenly age out enough to turn around and be "Anti-Anime, Anti-Crying Teen, and well as it turned out, Anti-Trans" in an unfortunately louder voice than could be expected. I'll still admire diving into the history and if anything, the highly contested "Breakcore Revival" might be fraught with Old-head vs Zoomer screeching, ironically the best winners wound up the openminded who regardless of if they DID know what was or wasn't breakcore, wound up also reviving interest in Jungle, Drills and even a bit yes who DID follow up Jvne with their own takes back into more "classic" Break cutting and such. It's just such a shame that instead of constructive bridge building, Breakcore Purists wound up hazing Jvne into the gutter and demanding respect without giving newbies any.
ngl bro, just wanted to say that, you are really good on what u do. u know, i couldn't ignore the fact that i was scrolling through your videos and having that thought in my mind saying: "OMG, i relate to a lot of videos this guy makes". so i just needed to say that, dont stop being who you are and, continue to do what u like, wish you the best bro
amazing video, OMG!!! i've been getting into breakcore and electronic music as a whole since about 2020, and have found a lot of new artists and tracks since. this video is such a love letter to breakcore with inclusions i wasnt expecting. now THIS is how you make a video essay!! beautiful visuals and even better writing ❤❤
I like some breakcore. But my problem with it is that theres a certain point where it starts to sound like just random noise. Especially when you listen for long periods of time.
That's why breakcore fans want it to stay underground lmfao. It's not for everyone and the reason people hate seweslvt really just comes down to the music being actually tolerable lmfao.
i am in love with your dedication to this subject as a whole. each song you picked is so perfect and unique. exciting to recognize some of my favorites!!
Dude this video really goes in depth and I certainly did not except LONE to be mentioned. You can certainly hear his influence on some artists mentioned here. Much like you can hear a lot of DJ Rashad in the WLFGRL album from machine girl. ALSO while not mentioned in the video, psychoangel, miya lowe/evaboy, golemm... so many good fucking artists out there man.
i just wanna say that it's nice to hear some good sound mixing where you can hear all that crazy music but at the same time it's still easy to follow the words you say. miles above the sound editing in your average youtube video.
Digital Hardcore and Atmospheric DNB Are amazing genres on their own and def have contributed to the "growth" of real breakcore in the modern day all 3 genres are fire truthfully though real breakcore is my least favorite out of the 3
Based on the thumbnail, I expected this video to be a Sewerslvt hate video, but instead I was given exactly what I have wanted on RUclips for a long time. Someone giving everyone credit for what everyone has done for the genre and surrounding genres, with people like Sewerslvt and goreshit kinda creating their own genres and sub-genres. To me, the communities have just become the "oldschool" and "newschool" fighting each other for no real reason making it feel toxic to be around. The sudden growth of DnB surrounding genres during the late 10's early 20's kinda caused this, due to people being a little under educated where they should've been, causing a bastardisation on the mainstream internet of what DnB as a whole is "supposed" to be.
nah but banger of a video legit i can feel the thought and research that went into it. For the eletist, I'll bring my example, I started with the obv sewerslvt wave but that led me to find the "real" breakcore gods and by that making me able to experience what is the true essence of breakcore and engraving into my soul the bangers of my personal favorite album my so called life.
I had the pleasure of listening to FlowerBoyDeMii, Kaizo Slumber and Astrophysics live back in March. All such good artists and each bringing their own take for the genre.
that's massive man! thanks a lot for your efforts to make the material! I am quite a nerdy geek myself and prefer to have a consistent naming, taxonomy and stuff at all times, but in spheres of human creativity or art if you like, it is very important to have less restictions, prescriptions, boundaries and gates. As for "the true underground", I am pretty confident that the term completely lost its initial meaning in free part of the world with pretty unrestricted and not severely regulated Internet. The true underground today is represented by Iranian or Afgani female singlers for quite a sad but valid example... Thanks again! Great video and the story behind. You have my solid like here and a sub! Keep that core broken ;)
Is this where I get to dump my breakcore opinions? I don't like sewerslvt or her music. I think she uses suicide and self harm as an edgy aesthetic in a way that really bothers me. She literally has multiple different songs with samples from people's REAL SUICIDES RECORDED ON AUDIO. Is there anyone stopping her from doing that? No, of course not- but it's plenty enough to disavow her music for me. I also think the music is lazy, and basically relies on ripping tracks wholesale and doing the bare minimum to make them sound different.
OMG OMG THIS!!!!! I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE SUICIDE PART?! Not surprised cuz she’s a massive cunt. But you’re spot on production wise!! Everyone thinks she’s some god but her production is so basic. I was listening to the Porter remix and all it was was a drone, vocals and breaks 😂 At first I was hooked but then I realized it’s like mostly just the song itself ahaha
I always found those themes to be comforting when my depression was at its worst. I agree that using those audio samples is... kind of an unsubtle way of incorporating those themes, and find them much more difficult to listen to on a better mental state. While Sewerslvt does have some lazy remixes, they also have some tracks that are more original and interesting. What I like about Sewerslvts sound is the juxtaposition of ethereal, dreamy soundscapes against harsh, dense walls of noise and sonic distortion. I have yet to find another artist that combines that serenity with that unnerving, chaotic, harshness. When my depression was at its worst, that sound helped me process my similarly complex emotions. You have good criticisms of Sewerslvt, and so I want to give an equally thought out reason for what I do enjoy about their music (the tracks that sound that way, at least)
@@StrykerMagnum That's understandable, everyone will have a different connection to art that is very personal. I have been hospitalized for an attempt before and to me there is a line you can cross that starts to feel like normalizing and glorifying it. You should not feel guilty for enjoying the music and valuing how it helped you through and I hope I didnt make you feel that way.
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don't take this some perverse analyzation of your character, but from this video and the ones before it i think you, as well as I, struggle with categorizing things. what i mean by that is that our way of perceiving things hinges on the genres and types we use to describe them. I honestly think genres are completely stupid and have hindered my own creative strength by forcing me to turn songs into hat they should sound like, not some experimental idea that doesn't use anyone's preconceived ideas of genre. i feel like it might be the same for you as a youtuber. anyway im kind of tired remind me to finish the thought
Have you bought the amazing book on extreme electronic music :
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@@quifesco3635 Genres are incredibly important for finding music, you would only know half the music you know because it had been categorized into an accessible label for you to find more like it, if genre's weren't important then we'd just be referring to music in "scenes" but we can't since musicians outside those scenes still make songs in those certain styles. Genre theory and taxonomy is important and I believe there should be more of it. I hate this idea that's come up in the last few years were people are becoming anti-genre or believing that genres are pointless. The progression of music in the last 100 years was reliant on the history and culture surrounding genres.
@@kelechi_77 i agree with this and it makes me rethink some of what i've said, i'm more afraid of perceiving things in aesthetics, and creating ideas of the culture and style and history behind these genres that we treat kind of stupidly. i just can't stand people who live their life seeing things as different aesthetics. 70s, 00s, punk, vaporwave) yes, genre helps you discover the art, but you have to put it aside for a bit to treat it as it's own work.
“ tearout” might be a style worth investigating
"What happened to breakcore?"
Me who still listens to breakcore: *"HUH?"*
bro literally same, I have a playlist that I update almost every day with new songs lolol
but I do have to admit, it's getting harder to find new artists and older artists aren't getting as many views (goreshit aside)
Yeah same here, Breakcore is honestly the easiest stuff to find for me as well. Dude shoulda made "Future Riddim is dead" and it would have made a bit more sense. That shit is like finding buried treasure.
the problem is, break core as he gets into, isnt really anything defined.
my favorite vaporwave artist i cant even bringup, because people just scream its not vaporwave.
had a conversation with the guy, and the irony of music, is the album art defines the genre more than the actual music a lot of times.
same
IKR. WTF???
Imagine a youtuber docubiographer trying to suggest something happened to breakcore in their title.
Hi ...this is Jason Bong-Ra...got this in my feed and congratulate for a great piece of work and energy put into it. Thanks for reminding me I'm getting old ;) Take care!
get this man to tpp comment :p
bless you, mr Jason Bong Ra. big fan
love your work!
Your album 'New Millennium Dreadz' blew me away when I was 18 and launched my lifelong interest in breakcore and I loved your work, including the colab with Sickboy, ever since.
Bong Ra breakcore originator! Your last set at Bangface was one of my best ever musical experiences. I regularly play Murder You at the end of a dub set to confuse the crowd. Huge thanks for everything!
it's not dead. it just went back underground, where it started from.
“where it belongs” i think all good music deserves to be heard
@@Clover298 yeah, i think i should have rephrased that. Like "where it started from"
@@Darkfreed0m I get what you mean, certain genres aren’t really meant for the general public and should probably have their own fanbases, and a lot of genres settle into this over time.
yeah from fuckin tiktok, a place known for underground music
Sewertranny keeps making garbage beats after their ""gf"" killed themselves lol, tonnes of trooncore Breakcore artists keep appearing and making shitty breakcore and some Breakcore that isn't even breakcore, it's liquid DNB but they all live in a gotdamn echochaimber so nothing gets through to them
Plus Acidgirl makes the worst Breakcore because it's the same generic shit over and over again with a random generic shitposting title
I don’t think breakcore is COMPLETELY dead…
But I wouldn’t mind seeing the genre redefine itself when they stop making “sewerslvt type beat no. 335”
thank you! mind you, I don't mind atmospheric breaks but it really feels like break has gotten the drift phonk treatment
real
@@fencingfireferret1188 so true!
Either that or "Ultrakill type beat no. 666". I would say breakcore is indeed not completely dead so to speak, it's just revived in a misunderstood manner. Still though across all that's happened, therer are a few artists here and there that DO understand how to do breakcore rather than just make a misbranded jungle/dnb genre for the sextrillionth time for that tiktok zoomer clout.
its not dead, it was always an experimental underground music you have to search for.
"notseverslvt breakcore" is pretty much the same as it was.
born too early for shaboobey
born too late for shamone
born just in time for this isnt breakcore this is ambient jungle
ambient jungle is really good!
REAL!
word. A lot of it is just ambient DnB or Jungle. Venetian Snares, Igorrr, The Flashbulb and many others make...Breakcore. Nothing wrong with ambient jungle and DnB, I LOVE those genres, but Breakcore is different and it's neat.
its funny spotting how many people that cant differ amen break from regular dnb
@@IvoryMadness. no its not, its turned to shit
I think Sewerslvt isn’t the problem, it’s all the people trying to imitate her and not even doing it well, and also things like the clibait ’brekcore’ mixes, turning a form of art into a masspoduced aesthetic.
True like, i think some of their older content is like very edgy but like istg all i see is ppl taking that and cranking that shit up to 11 with no rhyme or reason to the point i just stopped listening to their music for a while.
But now i listen to their songs again and ngl its pretty good as i remember i js dont rlly fw sewerslvt as a person tho-
@@Ivorys_slushie I got into this whole amen break sampling rabbit hole through those ambient jungle videos that are 1 or 2 hours long back then. I would like to mentione gta 3's and liberty city stories' msx fm station has another huge factor too as I had no business jamming real hard to those two stations back when I was a kid. I kept seeing jvne's name all around at the time and decided to take a listen, I would say though I don't fw her music anymore. It's just now my preference in this genre has been reshapped, I still do think jvne's songs are pretty neat and all but that style of jungle/dnb is too generic and has been copied everywhere else. I do know this style of euphoric/atmospheric breaks was first adopted from her and all but it has gotten to the point where it's the same case as drift phonk where everyone just tries to copy eachother with the instant spamming of loud bass kicks or the cow bell.
From another standing point, I try to separate an artist with their creation knowing how jvne is a controversial individual in itself. I don't like jvne as a person because of their past actions, I don't like their music because it's not my preference anymore not because of what the artist has done in the past
@@wills.junks7 tru and ig its the right approach to interact w/ music like if the artist done sum fucked up shit you can still enjoy their music theres only a few exceptions when the song is actually fucked up like their child sacrifice ep but still i like their albums like skitzofrenia sim, we had good times together dont forget that, IRLY and draining love story
@@Ivorys_slushie yeah exactly, I do find some of their songs pretty fucked up and some are good, some are decent. She definitely has a knack for creating good tracks that's for sure. Anywho though, in regards of the huge misidentification of breakcore and jungle in this day and age of tiktok mfs trying to claim huge amounts of clout. You tend to find some good artists along the way, it's just sometimes the way they misintepret their creations to be the so called "breakcore" creations. This whole thing has basically ruined an entire drum break focused genres because everyone would just blab out "breakcore! ultrakill! sewerslvt!" As soon as they hear one single amen break sample on a song
@@wills.junks7 TRUUEE LMAO
if i show SIN MIEDO by jpegmafia to them theyre gonna freak the fuck out because it has like 13 seconds of using a sample commonly used in drum n bass songs
Hell even one of the scaring the hoes songs that had a amenbreak in the background lolll
The real breakcore was the friends we made along the way
And the amen breaks we chopped along the way!
they all dead lol, and Henry Collins from Shitmat is pimping out his international crisp (potato chip) packet collection on Good Morning TV now in a lovely beige sweater...
instead of doing a Henry Collins/Henry rollins collaboration which would be \m/
I got into it on like 2010s and made none 😂😂
I'm an oldschool breakcore head and member of the Bangface hard crew and I like all the new stuff, Sewerslvt and Machine Girl are fucking dope, its nice to hear people out there pushing boundaries and doing something different.
Recs: Anything off Varispeed or Love love records.
Wisp - synthy classy breakcore
Spongebob Squarewave - ott cheesey "happy"-Breakcore
Shere Khan - memed out Breakcore, masterfully done
Sound Murderer - one of the OGs
0=0 - blissful Ragga breakcore
Platapussy - again more really good ragga core
Usedtobecool - chip breakcore
Murdahorse
Marousa
Laxenchaos
Biohanna
Iglooghost
Wan Bushi
Datach'i
Dolphin
My favourite is possibly The Teknoist, Like a Hurricane Made of Zombies is a classic album in the genre that we should all listen to at least once.
Thanks for the recs, some good stuff in the video. Try and get over for Bangface some time, best Breakcore festival on the planet.
dolphin is dope, idk how deep you are into that type of uk/industrial hardcore but I'd also recommend nagazaki and djipe for that industrial hardcore sound with lots of break choppage. also fish&rice aka hellfish & akira are goated
I played a vinyl breakcore set before Djipe at Fractal in Leeds once. Crowd was nuts!!
@@bassterix7151 Aye, DJIPE is incredible. I'd consider that more hardcore though but its all good obvs
@@bassterix7151 Dolphin is a gent and a legend as well by all accounts.
you listen to any of Fanny's stuff? i think he's a top tier breakcore dude
breakcore got tiktok-ified and atmospheric dnb was mislabelled as breakcore constantly, purely because it has the word 'core' in it and sounds cool to tiktok 14 year olds who are too lazy to do any research and believe everything on the internet that they see :D the same thing happened to phonk, with phonk being seen purely as 'tokyo drift car edit cowbell' music despite it having many deeper layers and subgenres.
I remember similar mislabeling etc during the MySpace days. Also so many crappy rock bands tagging themselves as breakcore because I guess anything ending in “core” confused them?
How can you make it ANY more obvious you're an insecure fucking boomer lmao
Same thing happened to dubstep because people kept mislabeling things that aren't even close dubstep and absolutely ruined the image of what people think of the genre.
tiktokers when they hear amen break loops:
@@supercellex4D Not even close, lmao. What happened to dubstep is that it diversified into many different subgenres, and a lot of older fans didn't like some of those new styles and thus insisted it wasn't "real dubstep" but "brostep" instead.
Unless you're referring to normies who thought anything with wobbles was "dubstep", in which case ... they really did not influence the dubstep scene in any way like happened with breakcore and chillout drill n bass
RIP Paris, I hope you're raving hard up there and having fun
❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 oh damn we just got to the GoldenBoy section. Easily one of my favorites and huge reason why I got back into breakcore after a hiatus around 2013. RIP Paris. And yeah that album INMFTTH is top tier 🖤
Thanks for having me! Was a lot of fun and amazing job on the video
Very insightful stuff from you in this video! Glad to hear an opinion from you, was always a fan of your stuff btw! Cheers :)
holy shit its breakforce1
@@kaybrandon3083 kneel before me
my man having fun
RIP DJ Sammy P. I only got to know them through other breakcore artist friends, but they were good fun and someone that I will remember for a long time.
I remember getting their music randomly recommended to me on Soundcloud a bit ago. I had no idea they passed away, may their soul rest in peace
wtf he dead bruhhhhb
As a big Metalhead I can't help but see the similarities between the extreme metal community and the edm communities. "Is Metalcore punk or metal?" "Is Sewerslvt Breakcore or Ambient Jungle?" The real answer is it doesn't matter and people shoukd just enjoy music. Regardless of what any one person thinks in the long run Jvne will be probably be seen as Breakcore the same way early Linkin Park is now Metal instead of "hard rock".
@guyg.8529 Yeah the ambience of stuff like Igorr and Venetian Snares was what drew me in coming from an extreme metal background.
Metal definitely has the worst sub dividing though. Shit like "Blackened Deathcore" just doesn't even sound real lol
I don't consider Linkin Park nu-metal. There's a minimum level of intensity that much of their material fails to meet. Same with Tool not being prog metal, System of a Down not being alt metal, etc. Sure, there are some songs that meet the minimum criteria (Hit The Floor, Ticks & Leeches, and War, respectively) but they are a minority in their catalogues, which focuses on slower tempos, sung vocals, and clear mixes.
That said, the distinction is largely irrelevant, like you pointed out. Those terms are only useful for getting a grasp of the soundscape you find yourself in and the terms of engagement and expectations of the audience. It's a spectrum of sound and cutting it up is only useful for communication about it.
The differences and specificities DO matter to true fans. There’s a huge difference between that bedroom jungle stuff and breakcore
@@ThomasWake-k9jI think the mistake isn’t caring about the differences, it’s identifying with and gatekeeping based upon the differences. With any scene you can keep carving out microgenres if you want but most of the time you’re not really gaining anything by doing it except a more nuanced understanding of your own tastes - and if you start being an asshole to people based on that carving up, then you lose a lot more than you could ever gain.
idk why a lot of people seem to have a similar relationship with sewerslvt. like for me they were making the best music i had ever heard at that point, but somehow everytime i hear any of it i feel this deep dread, like it reminds me of the worst time in my entire life 😭😭
maybe its like related to lockdown or something idk but ive heard it a LOT
I liked a few of her songs until i learned what kind of person she was, and i haven’t listened since, it just kinda makes me feel sick
I actually feel the opposite, her music feels sorta hopeful to me. Love the contrast of her chaotic beats with a really pretty melodies or sounds which guide you through the chaos. Glad that Jvne is back as Cynthoni now :)
@@CordChomp stupid way to interact with music
@@CordChompyou can separate art and artist
@@heepofreepsexe the art is you seeing the world through the eyes of the artist.
now that we know sewerslvt is a weirdo, how do u like the view
Kinda hilarious to me that it breaks down to "genre built on not following rules and indie production is ruined by kids not following rules with their indie production"
Agree. Watching the video I felt a heavy "Grrrr kids ruin everything >:(" sentiment from the community that the video showed. Like isn't breakcore about breaking rules and having fun? I'm still kinda confused about what breakcore is
@@valenxizaw245 Breakcore always felt like the punk rock of electronic music for me. Sure you can find well produced, high-quality sounding artists like Venetian Snares, but within the same genre you can also find Oxygenfad and Nero's Day At Disneyland. Like an old friend used to say about any kind of weird/outsider art: "It's Calvinball."
i think you missed the point entirely
@@toolassistedspeedcoreWhat are you talking about?
@@valenxizaw245 Breakcore literally just means hardcore techno with breakbeats. Hence break-core. It has nothing to do with breaking anything, lol...
Half the stuff these "kids" are making isn't even breakcore, but drill n bass. People will call any fast jungle beat "breakcore" nowadays, lmao. It only takes a couple of seconds to look up what these words mean
This is an incredibly important video, thank you so much for making this. It is clearly well-researched and extremely passionate about the subject at hand.
This has been a genre I've been in love with for 10 years now (and more to come!) and I've been trying to put into words why I don't like where the genre has been heading but there was a lot more to it than just "Oh its getting popular." I feel like this video puts what I've been feeling into words.
I also think this video puts into perspective what my biggest issue with newer stuff is and that's just respect for the genre. I've always enjoyed less "breakcorey" styles of breakcore (Umio, for reference) but I always felt like there was some underlying respect and passion for the genre with what I was listening to. A lot of stuff I hear now almost feels like it's just following a trend and nothing felt truly passionate. I'm not looking for crazy choppage in my breaks or super brutal music -- as much as I like it -- but rather a clear showcase of wanting to strive for something passionate and creative. I don't get that with a lot of newer stuff. Bye2 as you mentioned I think is a fantastic example of contemporary breakcore; I don't recall the breaks being immensely crazy but I can tell there's an extreme amount of fun being had with the production
Holy shit it's fables bug
Breakcore used to have heart and soul put into it. Now it's shitty, repetitive, and easy to make
@@jambott5520 HOLY MOLY
@@Fveal Breakcore used to be about a disregard or counter of popular culture and took alot of influence from the punk scene...at least mentally wise. Hence the harsh tone of it. I dont know what has happened nowadays but the stuff being labeled breakcore today is something else and I cant really get into it. Im still going crazy over the old stuff though so its not me just getting old but rather the new stuff sounding rather formulaic...the complete anti-thesis of the original breakcore.
So happy with how well this turned out. Thanks a bunch for really delving into our world and really taking a significant amount of time to truly understand and appreciation everything. Was a massive pleasure to help :)
Happy Bi visibility month!
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It's very interesting being a fan of artists like bong-ra and venetian snares but also sewerslvt/cynthoni. I'm just in a place where I truly do not care about genre names and as long as it scratches my brain I'll listen to it. Also the problem of being a sewerslvt/cynthoni fan is that her sewerslvt alias was absolutely full of projects that she would end up deleting due to either the album covers or samples. A notable example is "don't be afraid of dying" which had an intro track that was just a 911 call of a child walking in on her brother after he shot himself and literally nothing else. Some of the song names from the albums that did stay up also just rub me the wrong way, titles like "kawaii razor blades" just feel so fetishy and disrespectful to me as someone who had SH issues until last year.
So genuinely glad that someone else enjoys the sound of some sewerslvt (as well as real breakcore) but doesn't like the more edgy tracks, I felt so alone in being a fan of some and a hater of others lol. It's really nice to see cynthoni being a completely different alias to sewerslvt and moving away from the less than tasteful styling (I hope she's actually grown a bit as a person too considering how long it's been).
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@@crabinasuitShe definitely has, considering her last album was a memento. That was clearly a wakeup call to her and she's distancing herself from all that.
Same idrc about genres, if i like it I like it. As for the song names yea some are edgy as hell but I also see them the same way I do with the genres, idrc, I like the music. This is also coming from someone with current SH issues so maybe it'll be different for someone who's out of it vs someone still actively doing, that song is genuinely one of my favs of hers lol although that's just a coincidence cause the name of a song has absolutely no correlation to how much I like it. However couldn't you say the same for songs like mr kill yourself that they're also fetishizing it? I feel like someone can have those edgy names while still struggling with said things like SH and they just wanted to call it that, especially cause SH has been in quite a few of her album arts and that's the way she wanted to express it.
@@brandonzamora5718 by jvne's history they're also victim of SH and SA(Rumor has it that they where actually RP by the description of some music tracks on patreon or old uploads but please take this claim with a grain of salt) from what I've heard hence why their music is the way it is, most of it is a representation or a way to cope what they've experienced which is another explanation to why they tend to delete some music tracks and reupload or deleted forever, the only album that's an exception is the one mentioned "don't be afraid of dying" and I believe "it just gets worse". They have admitted that these old albums were done out of pure edgy values. Of course that doesn't justify their work in the end, but it does give an explanation as to why it is the way it is.
Hate the intro but the music tracks are amazing, wish it didn't have the association with a literal horrible crime and the implications of automatic life ender, it would've just been nicer.
I've produced breakcore music for a solid 5 years now after being inspired by artists ike aphex twin, vsnares and machine girl. Kind of a disheartening feeling knowing someone could stumble upon my work and put it off because they hear an amen break and instantly associate it with the bad parts of this genre or assume I'm just another generic clout seeking zoomer hopping on tik-tok trends. I do this shit is out of pure love of the game man. I am prolly just being paranoid tho and im sure anyone with respect for the genre would give my stuff a fair shake lol and plenty have. (This comment is not an advertisement either idgaf I mostly do this for my own enjoyment)
lmfao i felt called out kinda even though im more of a jungle producer when they started talking bout "gen z ruined breakcore!"
Don’t worry, most people don’t associate amens with breakcore.
Bro I just listen to the music. Idgaf about what's said on the internet. Please make more breakcore.
I love machine girl
Tbh same
I sometimes have this weird feeling maybe my music will be cast aside and ridiculed because it's "not real breakcore"
I have a full album on the way and I have thought about trashing it many times,,,
your conclution is giving me very similar feelings to how the dubstep/140 scene felt post 2011, with the new generation exploring sounds seen as too agressive for the older heads. But, in hindsight of that era some of the most interesting and groundbreaking tracks has been released post Skrillex despite the new publics relation to what dubstep is. The darker uk sound is still thriving underground today and even having a bit of a revival to a lesser extent. I have faith the new generation with time will learn more about the history of breakcore and would feel inspired by its older sound and flip that with newer modern ideas to keep the scene alive
People calling it 140 is because so many people had the wrong idea of what dubstep was. Same thing with skrams/screamo
Similar to what happened to Phonk, too.
@@vhroom3436 Be interested in your take on phonk? I first heard the term to describe a diverging sound of funk future garage that shared similarities with some of the vapourwave scene and future funk. But yeah hearing it recently It was very different in style. Reminded me of how Riddim became a genre that sounded nothing like what riddim had historically been used for.
@@thehearingaid i honestly have no take. I just know that the kind of phonk (drift phonk) that was popular on social media is just a small fraction of all of the phonk that's actually out there.
I love this video. Not because its well researched but it holds care for both sides of the argument and hears them out. As a top teir sewerslvt glazer I have to admit I was ignorant of the history of it. Regardless of if Sewerslvt is breakcore or not, I still love her music and the help she gave and gives me in hard times. Huge respect man.
I recommend the album Detrimentalist by Venetian Snares for breakcore starters. Not too harsh but still experimental for its time (2008). Very fun to listen to.
@@jeppyjepi remember when i first started listening to sewerslvt when they began to get popular, i was listening to detrimentalist a lot, as well as igorrr's hallelujah and several goreshit albums and mixes
I am 14 minutes into this video, and I can already tell that you 1000% set out what you intended to do. The editing, the research, the interviews. This is by far the most in depth catagorization of the history of breakcore. ONLY 14 MINUTES IN 😂. Now if you excuse ima watch the rest of this masterpiece
Fancy seeing you here 😂
Actually there has been continuous anime influence on breakcore from the late 90s/early 00s way through to now. DJ Sharpnel (and related stuff), Cycheouts, CDR, Onomatopeee and Loli Ripe (who coined the name for lolicore subgenre) predate Goreshit. The anime aesthetics in breakcore and breakcore-adjacent music just kind of took off more in the 2010s.
This is my era pretty much. Odaxelagnia and Reizoko Cj were also some pretty good ones. Renard would also make some pretty good breakcore songs.
if you stretch it to cartoons in general and not just anime then this stuff was in breakbeat hardcore even before first breakcore appeared, early 90s.
Yeah, that's why people taking the "keep anime out of breakcore" thing seriously always made me wonder what do they really mean. Like just the new post-sewerslvt stuff, or are you against DJ Sharpnel and such too? There's a whole scene in Japan and it's been pretty influential, way before this new wave happened.
Venetian Snares, Kid606, Christoph De Babalon, Alec Empire, Bong-Ra, Machine Girl, Igorrr, Xanopticon, and even drill n bass artists like Aphex Twin, Bogdan Raczynski, Squarepusher, u-ziq, Wisp, The Flashbulb 🔥
That's about my list as well, but id throw ruby my dear in there too
This is a really well made video. As someone who found into breakcore thru sewerslvt's brand of emotionally-charged atmospheric & industrial beats, I think it's very tempting to write her music off as its own thing and sequester it from its cultural influences (and its cultural influence). As you mentioned in your video, most artists are going to bring their own identity & style into whatever music they create. I think her style made the waves it did, mainly with Gen Z for a reason. I'm glad for the new kinds of art we got to witness because of the waves her music made, and i think its cool that we got to see a new mode of expression from a lot of folks in my generation. Although that style has its fair share of slop to sift thru, i dont think that necessarily compromises the overall genre and true artistry always manages to shine thru regardless of labels. Overall, really awesome video and i learned a lot!
I recommend the album Detrimentalist by Venetian Snares for breakcore starters. Not too harsh but still experimental for its time (2008).
Amazing work! As a Sewerslvt fan its refreshing to finally have some good clarification on what breakcore really means. While I appreciate the take on Sewerslvt, I still feel like theres something genuinely special about their music that is still overlooked. In particular their last album. Its nothing revolutionary and certainly shows some amateur production, but I don’t think its unique combination of melancholic atmospheres and harsh beats has been successfully recreated since, despite the many imitators.
Artists like Boys Hotel capture the gritty aesthetic well but miss the emotional core that made Sewerslvt so popular. This "depressing" aesthetic is what resonated with a generation of edgy teens, though I don't think is inherently immature.
I recommend the album Detrimentalist by Venetian Snares for breakcore starters. Not too harsh but still experimental for its time (2008). Its not depressing as the atmospheric Drum and Bass that Sewerslvt does, but its so much fun to listen to.
The depressing aesthetic is the point lmao I mean back in the day they had my chemical romance now we have this
Sewerslvt is making music again not sure if it's mentioned here or not
Its the vibes. the vibes and aesthetics of sewerslvt where always different on her first and last album. her last album had this almost dark noir kind of vibe to it. Where as her first was way more atmospheric and also had that dark texture to it. It was rough all around its edges but that just made it cut deeper.
Frankly I'm disappointed he didn't mention Schizophrenia Simulation. That is sewerslvt's standout album for me. It's an incredible experience from start to finish. The starting ambience of My Fvcked Up Head dropping perfectly into I Break my Heart and Yours, the dirty, visceral sound of I Bleed getting reprieved by Restlessness and the beautiful Existing Everywhere. I love it all! Even though Car Accident is kind of annoying after listening to it too many times I think it's a great intermission into the second half of the album. I always feel like I'm floating when I listen to Purple Hearts in Her Eyes. Then it just goes insane with Slvtcrusher and Ecocide Suite. You get the idea I'm running out of things to say haha. Hope I don't get flagged for spam for this long comment.
I think people are just afraid of change.
Breakcore did not "die," and neither did Gen Z "ruin it."
Both divisions are still present and appreciated in their own niches.
People who dispute and fight against the younger generation's admiration for breakcore fail to recognize that their particular interests has now spread globally.
It should be a wonderful thing that a younger generation is interested in a genre that appears to be dead, but instead of welcoming the younger breakcore fans, the older people are unable to understand that many people like things for many reasons.
Both sides like various things about the music they label breakcore, and instead of fighting, gatekeeping, and arguing, just listen to what you like and avoid what you don't.
While I do agree that breakcore is not dead and that genres evolve over time and what not, there's this aura of absurdity that comes with the mislabelling of breakcore. The new 'breakcore' can easily be classified as a type of DnB with very little difficulty with even some tracks from the 90's resembling the current music. It's sorta different from the situations dubstep and phonk underwent were a subgenre that only encapsulates some of the principles of the genre becomes the popular one. At least in those cases you can argue that is the nature and evolution of the genre, whereas the changing point for breakcore is merely the mislabeling of another genre
Most of the new Gen Z breakcore is just DnB...and its not even creative or breaking boundaries, it always sounds the same.
Even the DnB artists that have been doing music for decades are coming up with more creative music than this new "breakcore" wave.
@@heibk-2019 Gen Z'ers sort of remind me of younger versions of boomers' parents. It's weird how younger people seem to be even more fossilized and old in so many ways. You almost never hear any of these genres in public (in most of the USA at least).
what i hate the most about all this is that if you try to accurately explain the difference between Breakcore and the stuff people call Breakcore, they will accuse you of gatekeeping, and complain about "how limiting" the concept of genres is.. and it's like i never said you can't make this stuff, if anything i actually like the post-Sewerslvt Jungle/Ambient DnB stuff better..
my current personal theory is that the modern generation learned about Breakcore through Machine Girl, and found out about Sewerslvt through the same playlists that would often feature Machine Girl (usually ENA inspired playlists, or weirdcore playlists) and thus made the connection..
personally i found out about Breakcore through those 2000s Lolicore playlists (i'm not a lolicon i promise) and those "10 Hour ADHD Breakcore" playlists i used to listen to back in elementary/mid-school, along-side the occasional Speedcore and Mashcore those playlists tend to feature..
i'm not even that big a fan of the genre, and the older i get the less i like it actually.. but i do like DnB and its subgenres, and sometimes it's sad to see DnB culture dying out in favor of other genres hitting the mainstream (remember that time when everyone thought DnB was Dubstep? heck, even one of the members of Delta Heavy "allegedly" called out that behavior, or so i heard)
a RUclips recommendation of venetian snares made me realize how i love breaks. after going through many songs i can safely say my favorite genre is lolicore.
how my dumb brain sees it is that breakcore feels kinda "serious" and lolicore is that but with nonsense high pitched Japanese girls singing or just cut up words. and they are so damn happy, exciting and insane. you can't not smile at the happy insanity blasting and destroying your ears.
add some noisy shit to it and it's even better. i love it.
i love it when I'm streaming and listening to stuff when someone pops up in chat saying "wtf is this shit" and leaves, that makes it even more amusing.
@@SilentOnion if you like Lolicore, i definitely recommend Furrycore (idk if that's what it's officially called, but i call it that)
Gorehound for example sounds a lot like Goreshit in my opinion
@@12DAMDO I'll check that out thanks
I agree 100% if someone actually wants to just accurately explain the difference but a lot of people actually are just assholes and gatekeep
Lmao @ the time when dubstep and dnb were such a popular trend that even people who normally care too little about music to even understand the concept of BPM were asking me to explain the difference between the 2
I started learning the basics of music making like 5 days ago and I already know that whatever I'll end up making, I sure as hell won't risk labeling it Breakcore and just make up a new genre instead.
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im glad this video exists. i like knowing what genres im listening toand being able to explain it properly when getting new folks into it. the newer and "edgier" offshoots of it is what im attached to im gen z and very little else reflects how i feel and what i struiggle with than this stuff, especially when it feels less refined. to me the messiness adds to it. im learning to be okay when other people call what i like edgy or cringe, just like what you like even if everyone else hates it
i feel like we can tell people when something is or is not breakcore without putting their music down, help then find the genre they're looking for and the place they belong. saying that something is not something else does not make it inherently bad if anything i believe it helps people to find the community that they would thrive best in
Sad things is that this new gens always denied it.
I’m so happy Venetian Snares was mentioned, I think Aaron is the best example of real “breakcore”
That's funny because ... Venetian Snares is actually ground zero for this entire issue.
He was by far the biggest name in breakcore, and usually the first that new fans would come across ... except a lot of his music wasn't really breakcore, which gave them a skewed perception of the genre from the start. Anytime they heard drill n bass it reminded them of some Venetian Snares tracks, and since Venetian Snares is known as "a breakcore producer" they then figured it must all be breakcore.
Now those new fans have grown up, started making their own music under the "breakcore" banner they misunderstood the meaning of, and now this broader inaccurate usage is more prevalent than the original.
Venetian Snares makes great breakcore but ironically his creativity made his popularity the indirect cause of the word having lost its meaning
@@DaveGreanYeah, calling venetian snares true breakcore is peak irony. Complicated because he was a big name regardless, but if he played at a breakcore party he would play the tracks that actually fit
@@DaveGrean his 90s and very early 2000s stuff was real breakcore tho, somewhere in 2008 a switch flipped in his brain and he turned to classic jungle with idm elements
@@Newtined Haven't heard ever single thing he did ever, but sure, that's sounds believable based on his records that I'm familiar with
Sewerslvt is one of a kind and I will always have a special place in my heart for her music. Glad she’s now back and continuing to make music again but in her absence there were lots of sewerslvt clones that tried to emulate her style and while they might have gotten a decent grasp on it they never were able to capture her style
Sewerslvt does make good DnB music
sammy mentioned!!!! rlly good video, thank you for taking the time to do this :)
The genre discussion is one of my favorites. Crazy how heated it can get, but that's passion for ya.
I am so enamored by this style of editing, and the overall content here. The whole flow of this video just rules. Big love.
RAHHH bye2 SHOUTOUT!!! Need to watch the rest of the video now (was scrubbing through after 5 minutes)
Amazing video. Got me hooked on your channel. The MDE style graphics in between the sections are super cool.
thanks for being the person to finally and properly explain what the fuck ive been listening to. i will admit im one of the ambient synth depressed anime girl fans, but ive briefly tried to find older shit, but became super overwhelmed. im definitely using that reference doc a lot in the near future.
I find it odd that a lot of people put such a focus on Sewerslvt for things like "Ruining Breakcore" when it's mostly the listener's fault for not understanding the Breakcore label. I've listened to basically everything she's done under that moniker and now as Cynthoni I still love her music as it's able to hit deep into my heart or enable me to open my brain and meditate on emotions I don't know how to process yet. From my view, I don't see a reason to hate or get annoyed with people who think Sewerslvt = Breakcore as it isn't the artist's fault nor completely the fan's, I think it has more so to do with (Breakcore specifically) how it's an issue with certain genre's becoming too specific or almost scientific in it's labeling when the thing you're labeling isn't a state of matter that can be defined well with technical terminology, labels/genre's only work to a certain extent like differentiating Classical to Jazz. In short, I don't feel like it's worth becoming overly upset with someone over something that is hard to control or define in the first place, something that is outside their control.
As for Sewerslvt's past, I feel it's redundant, especially what they did as a 16 y/o with a moniker having a big bang reference in it to even be mentioned as it only fans old flames for those who obsess over the past that have nothing to do with the present. I think anyone can recall how retarded they were during their teens and even I as a 20 y/o think the same (and will think the same of my current self years down the line). As for her other works that Sewerslvt made containing audio of self-harm, I personally don't have much experience with it besides hitting my own head, I've seen it with a few people I knew before, and it's something I have a hard time processing as I really can't explain my sentiments much besides the generic "darkness" and whatever romantization I can use to try and describe it. Whenever I hear the audio play during a song, specifically "This Fleeting Feeling", it's either two responses, I skip it because I'd like my mood to not be drained down the gutter, or I listen to it and quite literally be frozen as it causes me to feel so many emotions in the moment and upon the next song playing I immediately reflect on it and my own personal life as well. Like I said, I can't nor am able to explain my sentiments well or even feel like I have the right to say anything about the audio, so feel free to take what I said as nothing.
With the thing about people hating weebs I feel is ironic cause like westerners have always put japanese shit on their album art or whatever for so long I feel like because it looks cool lmao. Like it's there with Machine Girl a bunch or just anywhere you look outside of music. idk man cry more lol, it's just an artstyle and like it looks sick af at times, I get how it can feel cheap at times but it's capabilities when done well are, imo, really impressive.
As for the video I def will take it as a song reccomendation lmao and maybe read that book mentioned. Def wanna look more into what hardcore fans feel like what breakcore really is. It was also fun recognizing a bunch of songs/artists I've listened to before, it def gave me the chance to see how deep I am into Breakcore (which I'd say is like a light/med amount)
Some genres don't do anything breaking rule so stay safe a good music right?
people dont like it when their community that they call home changes into something they don't really recognize, and they usually will figure out something to blame for it. i think this happens all the time with plenty of communities. also some people are just really touchy about genre names lol
it should be illegal to have such a high quality upload yet still be so underrated. only 7k subs for this masterpiece?! wow...
I honestly love when people or a friend find out what breakcore is and they love it, it reminds me of when i first heard of it while no one was watching
as someone new to breakcore, it soothes my adhd tendencies. kinda gives off those 2000s dystopian sci-fi psychological anime vibes.
originally came from squarepusher, enduser and vsnares camp, but over time i've grown fond of goreshit and some of the 'depressive breakcore' offerings (even though they're technically gen-z atmospheric dnb but i'll take it in all the same). i'd say like dnb, the rabbit hole goes pretty deep if you're willing to dive into many subgenre takes, and trace back the roots, as i did today from your extensive research. it's a sight to behold really seeing this many musical influences coming together in one melting pot, then you get some very cool projects happening, like blood of heroes for example, one of my personal fav group.
in the end, what really matters is new music we've found along the way, regardless of genres or whatever they're called. thanks for your deep-dive efforts
TL;DR Breakcore is Breakbeat with (Early) Hardcore, it's Breaks + Hardcore Kicks (Distorted 909s) = Breakcore. And Breakcore isn't fast, just like Terrorcore, it's the energy that it delivers not the BPM itself!
15:50 and 29:01 surprised me alot, never in a million years would I have thought that I would hear someone talk about bye2 even though you mentioned her more popular songs.
I believe that part of the magic of breakcore lies in its "underground-ness" , it is very easy to find crazy good songs which won't get any recognition in the form of very very low listens/views in comparaison to the production quality. soundcloud specifically excels at this
2:45 takes a man to admit these kinds of mistakes instead of ignore or hide them, earned a sub. Creativity and content creating is hard so don’t be too rough on yourself. 😊
24 years still listening to it. Stuntrock for the winners
Finally someone mentions Stuntrock. Milwaukee went hard. I want to shoutout my bud Shiny McShine for his awesome album Dead At Esthers.
love the mde graphic you made that shit looks just like sams old stuff good job
The one thing I would have liked to hear about, was a segment on how the production aspect of breakcore changed throughout the years and why the heavily chopped amens became the staple sound that people can build up on, bc as you mentioned in the video, the amen break lends itself to be incorporated into any genre, but anyways, yeah, also I always say a cultural lesson on what breakcore is, always takes way too long when it comes to helping people "get" what it is, rather than showing them the production techniques (so they understand what they're listening for) and giving breakcore track recommendations like rmd vsnares bongra, bc I already know people will get confused when you give them tracks that lead to artists that don't exclusively (or almost exclusively) make breakcore etc etc
A casual listener is gonna have to do a lot more research to get it, but a beginner producer might just need a few screenshares on a discord call showing them a breakcore project, to get it
Overall, this was a good video though
I did NOT expect to hear Gu-L's theme song when opening this video, loved this video from that moment, thank you thank you!
Probably the most in depth video on breakcore out. This needs to blow up
I love your content already. Keep going dude!!
nu breakcore being co-opted as an aethstic for edgy teenagers is definitely a detriment to the genre. As someone who is a breakcore fan and huge fan of Lain and other works by ABe I hate that lain has been reduced to the meme breakcore icon for teenage girls with a host of random mental issues that they project onto her to say "shes literally me". It strips all the nuance, history, culture/cultural significant, and dilutes the art of the original material while making it way harder to find people interested in the stuff that made it interesting for me, instead just stripping the show down to the cute dissociated computer girl
good vid btw, hopefully feel like you put out something you can be proud of vs the things that you regret, this is very researched and thoughtful.
maybe so. But I think that if they just added that extra layer to the new wave of breakcore it could be something great. I think Sewerslvt almost did that with a lot of her references to degeneracy and horrible stuff. But it never went anywhere and was abandoned after first album. Shame, going back it just don't hit like it used to.
I agree to an extent. I do think this mentality borders on gatekeeping, but I understand why it might irk some people on a personal level. As long as you don't take it too seriously, I don't care. People should be allowed to like whatever they like for whatever reason they like it.
Kind of reminds me of punk in a way. It started off as a bit of a movement, but ultimately kind of just got dumbed down into bratty suburban teenager music over the years.
ain't it children of "Atari Teenage Riot" + Wipeout XL beats ?
Or maybe DJ Neophyte with the Wiped out aesthetics?
@urphakeandgey6308 I would argue it is gatekeeping, or at least, I've seen it been used to gatekeep based on the random stuff RUclips recommended to me. I remember reading the comments of some of the more higher viewed videos that had were of "normies" infiltrating the genre. I think that anxiety will always be a part of Breakcore. However, these were on nuBreakcore videos with an depressive anime aesthetic. This was already an "infiltration", but they couldn't see it because they were a part of it without knowing. When the oldheads pointed it out, they were called gatekeepers. Overtime, I saw heavier depressive & self-abusive language in the videos titles in abundance. I am also aware this language has also alwas been apart of the genre to " keep the normies out", but it's uually kept mostly to the artist's names & not quite used this extensively (to my knowledge). It felt more like channer / far-right tactics to keep vulnerable people within those closed gates by placating to their self-loathing than keeping uncurious people out. I eventually stopped listening to the genre when I started seeing video titles that were normalising pdf-ilic channer language. A shame because, I actually like the depressive aesthetic. Sometimes it helps me process stuff. But there comes a point where feels less like processing and more like isolating a community from people who could help them.
@@urphakeandgey6308 I dont take it too seriously, I try not to interact with the people doing their own weird thing with a thing I like. Its just a bummer when "let people like what they like" ends up lowering the quality of the content being created in that space. A big reason I stopped being so into breakcore was because of this sewerslt era and the clones and the slop it produced, combined with how overrun the community is with angsty teens that I dont enjoy interacting with.
I get it, I was once an emo teen listening to emo, punk, metal, nightcore, happy hardcore and whatever else and I definitely was not respecting the culture of those things and probably consuming mostly the super popular stuff/slop. its a bummer to be an oldhead and i feel for the people more invested in the scene, to see the thing you love get a bit bastardized, but what can you do I guess
it's esentially hardcore jungle in my mind , chopped breaks, multiple pads, chopped pitched up vocals , maybe some hardcore kicks ..it's honestly whatever you want to perceive..that's why it's art/music.
0:57 ALMOST CLICKED OFF THE VIDEO, YOU GOT ME.
yea i was gonna get sad
Same lol
heard the name sewerslvt and was ready to dislike and leave
i bet so many people did😂
@@SilentOnionwhat did she do?
Reminds me of the 2000s where a lot of alternative and numetal bands became popular and the oldschool fans said no...this is not real metal.
And these kind of people still listen to their same few favorite bands for the past 20 years. That's okay, but others want to try out new things and have fun. Same with the EDM scene.
Or when Babymetal became popular like a decade ago. Truly a traumatic experience for some.
If there’s no breaks, it isn’t breakcore. If there’s breaks, but very little editing, it’s probably closer to jungle than breakcore.
you don't need breaks to make breaks
@@thirteen12 then you dont need air to breath air. tf?
If I can't even hear a single hardcore kick in the entire song, it's not breakcore period
@@DaveGrean That's not true. a distorted 909 kick, is a major breakcore trope, just like hoovers and Reese Bass tones... but those sounds are tropes in so many other genres. I get personal preferences. I have my own personal preferences. Authentic breakcore has breakbeats, and they're chopped and finely edited. Without the breaks, it's probably just hardcore or gabba, without the tight editing, it's just jungle.
@@ajplays-gamesandmusic4568 I mean, I thought it kind of spoke for itself that it also beeds breaks, lmao. I certainly didn't mean that the kicks would be enough lol
Found you channel today, and I have to say, the quality and effort putted in this video is 10/10, you made me remember the times people actually used to do research about themes, and not just do a quick look over and done. Excellent work at minimum you deserve thousands more of subscribers, likes!
i really have to give you kudos for your self awareness, man. the fake smart guy shit is a phase every cool person goes through. i had a very similar experience to yours - finding sewerslvt in 2020, thinking anything with a break was breakcore, the usual. i really regret those days and look back on them with cringe and hatred. my current favorite dnb/breakcore artist at the moment is enduser! i recommend checking out his stuff! XD
i just started watching and holy shit this mustve taken so much time. i really fucking appreciate the work youve put into this. reminds me a lot of "all my homies hate skrillex" idea-wise but still very much its own thing. i love it
holy shit, good video.
nasenbluten + notes on breakcore mentions is godly
Watched a couple of your vids before, but now I noticed the MDE style eyecatches. Keep it up brother, you are talented.
0:59 Dude how did you know
Bro I just came to say the same thing 😂
Ty so MUCH for putting the artists in the description!!!
no mention of renard? arguably one of the most influential artists in the mid-late 2000s breakcore tonal shift to a less serious and more playful sound. they took heavy inspiration from gabber and reggae + cardopusher's breakcore tracks, and went on to be a large influence on later breakcore artists like goreshit and shoebill + the wider electronic hardcore scene as a whole.
also no japanese artists :(
check out cycheouts for some japanese breakcore from the mid 90s
hey thanks for the mention, I'd like to say that renard was my first introduction to this whole sound 10 years ago and is the reason I do this shit now but cardopusher has for sure been a bigger influence on me lately - I feel as though renard was kind of the sewerslvt of their time in terms of being a gateway and probably shifting the sound in a way a lot of people weren't into but it's what hooked me
@@Shoebill no actually. renard has pretty classic uk hardcore/breakbeat hardcore/jungle based stuff.
cycheouts made dnb breakbeat and jungle. cycheouts ghost made breakcore in late 90s and 2000s.
That's kinda strange. LapFoxTrax was my introduction into breakcore, hardcore and speedcore somewhere in 2009. Is renard just too niche for breakcore community?
Fantastic fucking video! Sent it to all my friends who also like the genre… i love the artistic fun visual you ise and the script is very easy to follow!
having sewerslvt on the thumbnail is a bold move
We love jvne.
What's bold about it?
@@HNcomicsCause it’s literally not breakcore
@@1shyy524 it literally has a no sign over it.
@@HNcomics It will literally still attract a bunch of sewerslvt fans
As someone who comes from the drum and bass scene, this is fascinating. I'm a sucker for pretty much all breakbeat type music, but this stuff always kept a certain distance. I love Venetian Snares, Igorrr, Ruby My Dear and some other stuff, but never really dabbled too much into the scene.
Also, your style is amazing dude. This editing is so good for this topic. It feels like I'm watching a mid 2000's doc done today... which it's kind of exactly what it is lol.
Real great deep cuts here, especially on cracking open the Whelan's "Breakcore: Identity, Peer-to-Peer" (something I eyed in undergrad but was too stingy to pay the publisher...or even just dig on scihub).
I'd still have to throw my critical 2 cents tho, as while Breakcore as Sub-Culture lives and dies less on technical specifics (between the spectrums of IDM to Drill n Bass and Jungle), but rather on the "communal vibes" of the time, I have to point out the either arbitrary or rather how clean-washed said "gate-keeping" was presented, obviously in that "That's not REAL Breakcore" is the classic "No True Scotsman", since beyond having a million ambiguous definitions, it's more used to pose the "Insiders" vs "Outsiders". There's obviously a complete lack of historical lineage that Zoomers would know or could really be exposed to, especially when originally Breakcore built itself on "vibes" as harsh as is, but to raise the barrier NOW is more just re-drawing the generation lines.
But I have to point out the hypocrisy in practice, explained in the differential treatment of Goreshit vs Swrslvt, side-stepped with "I don't like Anime when it's shoved down my throat", and downplayed the Lolicore vs Edgy RUclipsr teen in the same level, but the fact the Breakcore community has given Goreshit clemency at all: Possibly because of seniority, possibly his metal band origins physically connect and travel in the scene, possibly even more that projects like Semantics are way closer in Break-style but still both his admission of depression and initial themes of edginess can only parallel Jvne
Even beyond just "This is Ambience House-y DnB, not Breakcore", the knee-jerk reaction to Jvne has been FAR harsher, between not just the in-Breakcore community, but as well just straight up cancelled in the Sadboy Sheldon reveal (something more noteworthy that Jvne actively tried to erase, while you can still pretty much download Tomboyish love and dancefloor muthafucka straight on Goreshit's bandcamp easy). While not to demonize Leon or to absolve Jvne of being less of an imperfect victim, it's so drastic how everyone has to pull the "I always knew s/he was trouble, just look at the [Anime/Angsty themes/Sexualization/Trans-ness]" and it's more apparent that Jvne is symbolically treated as "the ultimate outsider/Zoomer shift" and therefore reviled in every facet.
I find it less "What IS actually Breakcore" or "Why does it even matter" to be even more pertinent than "Breakcore is whatever it needs to be to keep the Zoomers out" and twisting the punk ethos of anti-establishment/anti-authority/anarchist communal and to suddenly age out enough to turn around and be "Anti-Anime, Anti-Crying Teen, and well as it turned out, Anti-Trans" in an unfortunately louder voice than could be expected.
I'll still admire diving into the history and if anything, the highly contested "Breakcore Revival" might be fraught with Old-head vs Zoomer screeching, ironically the best winners wound up the openminded who regardless of if they DID know what was or wasn't breakcore, wound up also reviving interest in Jungle, Drills and even a bit yes who DID follow up Jvne with their own takes back into more "classic" Break cutting and such. It's just such a shame that instead of constructive bridge building, Breakcore Purists wound up hazing Jvne into the gutter and demanding respect without giving newbies any.
I was NOT expecting one of my posts to be in the video lol, I was not confused I was getting second opinions I swear
0:26 you have great music taste what i love vansire and vacations
ngl bro, just wanted to say that, you are really good on what u do. u know, i couldn't ignore the fact that i was scrolling through your videos and having that thought in my mind saying: "OMG, i relate to a lot of videos this guy makes". so i just needed to say that, dont stop being who you are and, continue to do what u like, wish you the best bro
S+ tier video
seriously wtf you went so hard with the editing
amazing video, OMG!!!
i've been getting into breakcore and electronic music as a whole since about 2020, and have found a lot of new artists and tracks since. this video is such a love letter to breakcore with inclusions i wasnt expecting.
now THIS is how you make a video essay!! beautiful visuals and even better writing ❤❤
I like some breakcore. But my problem with it is that theres a certain point where it starts to sound like just random noise. Especially when you listen for long periods of time.
noise music for people who don't like noise music lol
That's why breakcore fans want it to stay underground lmfao. It's not for everyone and the reason people hate seweslvt really just comes down to the music being actually tolerable lmfao.
Thoroughly enjoy this. Very informative and well made video, thanks for putting this together!
Small world haha
song at 2:57 is The Illnes by Kid606
Thank u omg
@@fwurbz watch the official mv!
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This document is so well written and made I loved it, thanks for your hard work ^^
I never considered it breakcore and if people ever asked me what kind of music I listen to, I just tell them I like sub genres of electronic or edm.
i am in love with your dedication to this subject as a whole. each song you picked is so perfect and unique. exciting to recognize some of my favorites!!
All the Breakcore artists got arrested for child porn or committed suicide. It is what it is
They all commented suicide because they are troons
Dude this video really goes in depth and I certainly did not except LONE to be mentioned. You can certainly hear his influence on some artists mentioned here. Much like you can hear a lot of DJ Rashad in the WLFGRL album from machine girl. ALSO while not mentioned in the video, psychoangel, miya lowe/evaboy, golemm... so many good fucking artists out there man.
i didnt know golden boy died, her song breakbeat gangsta is one of my favorites. RIP
i just wanna say that it's nice to hear some good sound mixing where you can hear all that crazy music but at the same time it's still easy to follow the words you say. miles above the sound editing in your average youtube video.
Digital Hardcore and Atmospheric DNB Are amazing genres on their own and def have contributed to the "growth" of real breakcore in the modern day all 3 genres are fire truthfully though real breakcore is my least favorite out of the 3
notes on breakcore is also what got me deep into breakcore after learning about venetian snares
7:18 is that Pig Destroyer lyrics I see? Didn't expect that in a breakcore video
I was JUST coming here to comment that! I couldn't believe it.
Check out Pig Destroyer Destroyer by Drumcorps
@@urinstein1864 big fan of Aaron's work!
jesus, i'm so frustrated because i had same idea for video last year, but i'm was so lazy to start doing it
good job pal, this is interesting theme
Based on the thumbnail, I expected this video to be a Sewerslvt hate video, but instead I was given exactly what I have wanted on RUclips for a long time.
Someone giving everyone credit for what everyone has done for the genre and surrounding genres, with people like Sewerslvt and goreshit kinda creating their own genres and sub-genres.
To me, the communities have just become the "oldschool" and "newschool" fighting each other for no real reason making it feel toxic to be around. The sudden growth of DnB surrounding genres during the late 10's early 20's kinda caused this, due to people being a little under educated where they should've been, causing a bastardisation on the mainstream internet of what DnB as a whole is "supposed" to be.
I'm just waiting for the TikTok kids to go away so that we can be back to the underground
PUKE GIRL MENTION LETSGOOOO!!
also great video, havent finished wayching yet tho
nah but banger of a video legit i can feel the thought and research that went into it.
For the eletist, I'll bring my example, I started with the obv sewerslvt wave but that led me to find the "real" breakcore gods and by that making me able to experience what is the true essence of breakcore and engraving into my soul the bangers of my personal favorite album my so called life.
same
VANSIRE MENTIONED 0:28
I had the pleasure of listening to FlowerBoyDeMii, Kaizo Slumber and Astrophysics live back in March. All such good artists and each bringing their own take for the genre.
that's massive man! thanks a lot for your efforts to make the material! I am quite a nerdy geek myself and prefer to have a consistent naming, taxonomy and stuff at all times, but in spheres of human creativity or art if you like, it is very important to have less restictions, prescriptions, boundaries and gates. As for "the true underground", I am pretty confident that the term completely lost its initial meaning in free part of the world with pretty unrestricted and not severely regulated Internet. The true underground today is represented by Iranian or Afgani female singlers for quite a sad but valid example...
Thanks again! Great video and the story behind. You have my solid like here and a sub! Keep that core broken ;)
Is this where I get to dump my breakcore opinions? I don't like sewerslvt or her music. I think she uses suicide and self harm as an edgy aesthetic in a way that really bothers me. She literally has multiple different songs with samples from people's REAL SUICIDES RECORDED ON AUDIO. Is there anyone stopping her from doing that? No, of course not- but it's plenty enough to disavow her music for me. I also think the music is lazy, and basically relies on ripping tracks wholesale and doing the bare minimum to make them sound different.
OMG OMG THIS!!!!! I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE SUICIDE PART?! Not surprised cuz she’s a massive cunt. But you’re spot on production wise!! Everyone thinks she’s some god but her production is so basic. I was listening to the Porter remix and all it was was a drone, vocals and breaks 😂 At first I was hooked but then I realized it’s like mostly just the song itself ahaha
I always found those themes to be comforting when my depression was at its worst. I agree that using those audio samples is... kind of an unsubtle way of incorporating those themes, and find them much more difficult to listen to on a better mental state. While Sewerslvt does have some lazy remixes, they also have some tracks that are more original and interesting. What I like about Sewerslvts sound is the juxtaposition of ethereal, dreamy soundscapes against harsh, dense walls of noise and sonic distortion. I have yet to find another artist that combines that serenity with that unnerving, chaotic, harshness. When my depression was at its worst, that sound helped me process my similarly complex emotions. You have good criticisms of Sewerslvt, and so I want to give an equally thought out reason for what I do enjoy about their music (the tracks that sound that way, at least)
I never bothered checking out breakcore and I'm glad I didn't. Is a single person involved with this "scene" a remotely good person? Seems unlikely.
@@StrykerMagnum That's understandable, everyone will have a different connection to art that is very personal. I have been hospitalized for an attempt before and to me there is a line you can cross that starts to feel like normalizing and glorifying it. You should not feel guilty for enjoying the music and valuing how it helped you through and I hope I didnt make you feel that way.
@@periapsis413 my comment got deleted wtf
Saving this video so I can reference it and widen my net for breakcore. I appreciate all the work you put into this! Subbed!
finally a quality video about real breakcore, this is great work man