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They want to get it cancelled because it doesn't fit the "agenda". It's a truly great game AND it's apolitical, and these envious jerks want to tear it down because they can't handle excellent things flourishing without their approval.
My money is on Game Science working hand in hand WITH IGN to try and drum up controversy. I mean, we've seen the results from EVERY.... SINGLE....TIME people try to boycott or cancel a game. That result? More sales for that game.
@@Norcat10And sky is blue And Nestle is evil MF And Garten of banban is disgrace of mascot horror. It's been said before and it can be said again. IGN is bad. That's the fact, not original but Facts.
There're two misunderstandings: first, 'getting licked' means being flattered in Chinese, so this post by the creator from the studio has nothing to do with sex. What it really means is basically He want to hire more people but too many people want to be hired so they flatter him too much and he can't get used to it. Second, the translation of the snake spirit is correct by IGN as '冲' does mean jerk off nowadays (though originally it does not, this is why GPT translate it the other way). But this pic has nothing to do with the studio as It's a post on a forum called Zhihu by some random guys.
That sentence does express the meaning of being flattered, but it does use a more vulgar metaphor (licking, erection), but for Feng Ji, "erection inability" in addition to being flattered, it also means that he feels the market's great expectation puts him under great pressure.
Basically getting harassed by wokes on twitter because he used some crude slang like say, "people keep fucking with me" or "you really suck at this" Oh and for the snake lady it was something like : "if you cover the lower snake body she's fappable" How could a young male gamer dev in his twenties say something so horrible...!
I remember watching the reveal about half a decade ago and I was certain it was fake. Then more and more footage just kept coming out now I can't believe we are almost at release
@@huricanethreeonesix I remember when a teaser was released for this game and the only reason why I believed it was legit was because Maximilian Dood noticed that when Wukong was fighting all those soldiers the FPS dropped. Games don't usually show FPS drops, especially fake ones, so when that happened people started believing that the game is real.
I was looking forward to it as well, until I found out it was just a boss rush game. I love bosses in souls-like games don’t get me wrong, but I’m not interested in ONLY fighting bosses.
I hope Luke sees this： Although the studio is new, the core members are not unknown. They were from Tencent's Quantum studio and were responsible for developing a discontinued MMORPG named Asura Online based on Journey to the West, the same as Wukong. You can still find Asura online's opening cinematic on RUclips, which is made by the same company that makes the recent Wukong CG teaser, named Original Force, based in Nanjing, China. The art director, Yang Qi, had also described the inspiration behind the company logo in a Weibo post or a comment reply years ago, as a bolt of energy striking an elementary particle, elevating it to a higher quantum state. The concept reflects the company name, Game Science.
@@andreichetan4694 Making a wonderful Journey to the West video game has been a dream for many of them. It's their passion and vision, and after years of collecting cash from mobile game market they finally pulled enough resource to try again. It's one of the reasons why they're receiving so much support.
@@andreichetan4694 actually it was released.But they dont have agreements with some parts of that game such as pay to win which is the studio disagree,so tencent got that game hidden(english not well,like the EA to the Dead Space)
@@shib5267 On the contrary, I think you should be hyped. The Asura MMO failed because the team originally intended to develop it as a single-player ARPG. Nevertheless, single-player games were not profitable in China at that time, so in order to gain Tencent's approval, they had to transform it into an online game. The public test version included plenty of elaborate music, voice-overs, and NPC backgrounds. However, when making an MMO, it is essential to pump out content as fast and regularly as possible for players to consume. After 1.0, they were unable to meet the deadlines while maintaining the initial quality standards, leading to a lack of financial success. Eventually, future updates were scrapped by Tencent. The core members departed and establish Game Science in 2014. By developing successful mobile games, they were able to generate funds to bring Black Myth to life, with the 2020 trailer dedicated to talent recruitment. The Wukong game is truly their passion project.
someone told me this about the company logo: "Because the Chinese abbreviation for "game science" is "游科" (yóu kē), it sounds similar to "游蝌" (yóu kē) which means "swimming tadpoles" when read in Chinese. The humorous play on words comes from the fact that the pronunciation of "游科" (yóu kē, for game science) is nearly identical to "游蝌" (yóu kē, swimming tadpoles) in Chinese. So when someone says "游科", it evokes a silly imagery of frolicking with tadpoles. Using the English approximation "Yo-kuh" for the Chinese "游科" highlights this delightful linguistic ambiguity that arises from reading the tonal Chinese language, capturing the entertaining double meaning."
Dont overcomplicate things. Chinese has a nick of habit to shuffle on words. Go look at their local shops. Also it serves a purpose so that they can avoid duplicate trademarks (or sue the actual brand, like they did with Air Jordan)
As early as July 2021, someone asked the chief game graphic designer Yang Qi on Weibo what the LOGO meant. Yang Qi had already answered at that time that it meant lightning hitting an atom.
well, the official story I've heard is that lightning strikes atoms, and swimming tadpoles is more of a player-to-player rumor (although it does sound plausible)
Takes me back to late middle school/early HS when I was obsessed with Wukong and started wondering if there were any Wukong games out there. Image my shock when the first thing I saw was this!
I picked up a copy of Monkey Folk Tale of China which is a very streamlined version of Journey to the West with only certain chapters but it’s still awesome
As a Chinese player, I want to clarify some parts of the video. Firstly, regarding the company name and logo: The company is called Game Science. While the logo might appear misleading and resemble a sperm, the company explained in a 2021 interview with Chinese media that the logo represents an atom being struck by lightning. It's that simple. The comment suggesting that the Chinese abbreviation for "Game Science" ("游科" yóu kē) sounds like "游蝌" (yóu kē), meaning "swimming tadpole," is just a playful term used by players. It's not an official name given by the company. Secondly, about the signboard advertising: There's no denying that the Chinese player Luke quotes in the video is correct. Their recruitment advertisements are indeed vulgar, but that doesn't mean they are sexist. Next, they accused the game art director, Yang Qi, of calling for no female players. This is completely taken out of context. When quoting his statement, you must consider the development context of the Chinese game industry. At that time, and even now, many character designs in Chinese games aesthetically pursued "白幼瘦" mindlessly（"白幼瘦" means having white skin, a youthful appearance, and a slender body.）. This applies not only to female characters but also to male characters in many game companies. It's absurd, right? Imagine if Kratos were a slender, fair-skinned man. Imagine if Arthur Morgan looked like an idol. It doesn't fit their story backgrounds at all, does it? This is precisely what the game art director was trying to convey. We shouldn't pursue this kind of aesthetic because it makes men not look like men. We need to create something that truly embodies masculinity. Do you think that's sexist? At least, I don't think so. Parts of the content as above are through the translation software. If there is something unclear to the READER, I can explain further.
I have no idea how IGN even has a say in anything at this point. They lost credibility many years ago - who is giving them the attention so that they stay relevant? Luke, it’s really simple and not that bizarre, the writer is actually the racist one. It really isn’t complicated.
Totally agreed. As an Indian I can say that China and Chinese studios are gonna be at the forefront of AAA game industry in the coming years. They deserve respect, not mocking.
@@Rising._.ThunderI won't say that. Considering the amount of blatant rip off, they have I don't think the Chinese deserve that much respect. This studio definitely does though Aside: I don't think AAA/mobile studios deserves respect in the first place. The amount of micro transactions mechanics is sickening
I appreciate you doing your own research on that ign article and not just taking it at face value. Especially when it comes to translating. American's think every word they translate is literal just like the english language when in reality foreign languages are waaaaaay more complex with their words and can be translated many different ways.
It's especially perilous to translate between a glyph based language to a character based language. These Chinese glyphs each represents whole words and even phrases, unlike character based languages such as English where words are made up by individual distinct letters.
Allow me to give you an example. In Chinese, "Zhe shi she me?" when translated literally into English, would be "This is what?" Yes, when literally translated, the phrase is in broken sounding English, whereas the grammatically correct translation would be "What is this?" This makes it incredibly easy to either unintentionally or maliciously mistranslate and misinterpret the Chinese language, for a wide variety of reasons.
@@acherontiaatropos6048 Yeah, but in significantly different ways. It's like asking a professional baker to cook and serve ratatouille. Baking isn't easy by any means, but making something like ratatouille is difficult in a completely different way and has a completely different skill set attached to it.
@@jmo8192 Sure, but what is weird grammar to English speakers is just normal grammar to Chinese speakers and vice versa. All languages have grammatical differences, idioms, puns, etc. that don't make sense in another language if you try to translate word for word. Somewhere out there are Chinese people saying how complex English is because it's only half-phonetic so you pretty much have to memorize how every word is spelled and our grammar and idioms sound exotic or nonsensical to them.
This game has probably the most beautiful postprocessing in any game to date. The particle effects, motion blur, DoF... not to mention the animation fluidity, lumen, nanite, VSMs,.. it's a feast for the eyes. Truly amazing use of UE5's features. 😲 It's so dense with detail that anyone on RUclips who doesn't know how to properly record and process videos to minimize compression artifacts is doing this game a disservice.
I think Rise of the Ronin showed you can get a skill heavy game and make it accessible enough. If that is not replicated widely then Souls types deserve to remain AA
@@kirechix there should be a niche for gamers who prefer a more challenging game.. everything gets worse and dull when diluted for "casual audiences".. in my opinion, far too many games have gotten more massive and lost focus.
@@kirechixrise of the ronins is also a game no one talks about. “Souls game remain to be AA” this statement tells me people like you ruin the industry.
Well, just look at Hogwarts Legacy and Stellar Blade. Both game studios had only made mobile games previously, and when they attempted to make AAA console games, they absolutely blew it out of the park, and there wasn't a single microtransaction in sight for either game. So let's hope that it's the same case for this studio with this promising looking game that I for one am absolutely looking forward to playing and can't wait to get my hands on!
And now that studio that mad3 hogwarts legacy is doing liv3 service and leaving that game so they didn't do anything that great with it. Game was mediocre
Worst case scenario the game studio was having a bit of cheecky fun and decided to make the logo look like sperm. Best case scenario when designing the logo the deves accidentally miss drew a lighting bolt or a projectile . Either way WHO THE HELL CARES. This game speaks for it self and Game Science should be very proud of the work they have produced. Also, if you are really getting butt hurt over a logo then I feel bad for you because I cant imagine how you are reacting to other things in the world that are FAR WORSE then this.
23:30 it's a tadpole, aka young frog. In chinese the short name of Game Science (游戏科学) is 游科, which has the exact same pronunciation of "游蝌", meanning "swimming tadpole", and hence the tadpole logo, it's just a pun
@@Astristul Why do you say that? I don't care if it is a souls like or not, it just looks fun...I get a bit of a Nioh combat vibe from looking at it though...
@atgwiuz I stopped watching ACG. He doesn't call out problems in games like he used to. The large majority of his videos are him rambling on and saying absolutely nothing of merit. Each to their own, the difference in quality is most certainly clear to see, though. Its funny how the more subscribers a channel gets the worse they become.
I'm kinda shocked. What else is there to discuss about that game that haven't been said already? And for eight hours to boot. I guess some people just don't value their time all that much.
@@yous2244 still a literally who asian developer that are making a very ambitious project and are working on it very professionally. Gives me very much the same vibe.
I definitely see it being more like God of War than a souls game. A lot of dark fantasy games with a roll button are instantly going to be incorrectly labelled souls games now I reckon.
So about the content between boss fights, there is more info in Chinese community. Those who got invited to play said that the maps are separate by storyline, and each chapter may have slightly different map designs, some is more linear and some is more open world. For the latest 2-hour demo, they say the map is like 3 big areas, each has several branches, and on each branch route there maybe some elite monsters, or quests, collecting job, these kind of stuff, and you can get things like armors, new transformation, new magic acctaks, making the map final boss relatively easier. Or you can just ignore the branches and rush to the final boss
What a lot will not know, is how draped in chinese fantasy this game is. The monkey king i first came across in the 70's with the tv series monkey magic, and capcoms 'sonson' in the arcade from 1984. This is deep into chinese fantasy lore as you will ever get. Ign are living up to the name 'ignorant'
Dragon Ball was my first introduction to journey to the west... Hearing what it was based off got me interested, Now there is a video game adaptation of that same folk lore that Akira Toriyama (R.I.P) used for inspiration. Im invested and it looks good.
Listen you can make the argument that as a Chinese developer they should not be supported due to heavy ties to the government which is practically a dictatorship and they rule by fear and class divides, However I’m of the mindset that people should enjoy a game no matter where it’s made. If it looks and feels fun to play, then what’s the issue
Shift Up, the developers of Stellar Blade, are also a mobile games company who made their console debut and that was a success, which makes me hopeful that this will be a similar situation if not better
The Korean Round8 and Neowiz were also mobile game devs but Lies of P was just an incredible first effort. Serviceable lore, polished gameplay, good level design and even the voice acting and the OST were pretty amazing IMO. Oh and it runs amazing. My FPS usually hovered around 150-170 FPS at 1440p with an RX 6900 XT. Which is crazy when Steel Rising could barely hit 80 on my system.
Stellar blade is alright, but I don't like shift up as an organisation due to their extreme unethical working enviroments, my gf worked there as administrator and she told me women over there are absolutely exploited and patronised. So when that stellar blade controversy came along I knew it had many slivers of truth.
This seems to be turning into the path for indie dev companies to become AAA studios: Step 1. Make tons of money selling mobile games Step 2. Use that money to fund your AAA amazing PC/console game without having to answer to a publisher There are 3 examples of this happening now: - Lies of P (more AA) - Stellar Blade - Black Myth Wu Kong
I mean... it's a decent game, but GOTY? in 2023??? Tell me you didn't play a lot of games in 2023 without telling me you didn't play a lot of games in 2023. Either that, or you have really narrow genre preferences.
@@blackshard641 I played pretty much all the heavy hitters and while it’s not my game of the year, I can totally see it being someone’s favorite. Probably the best action rpg (I didn’t play Armored Core tho) of the year and there were a lot
Luke you've already shown your investigative skills, you're perfectly capable of finding out what caused the nontroversy. I know it's a topic you don't want to cover but you'll gain a lot of respect if you do.
To quote miss Anita: "Everything is racist. Everything is sexist. And you have to point it ALL out." These journalists took that quote to heart and made it their mission to carry out.
Gamescience’s logo looks like a swimming tadpole. Gamescience’s Chinese name is 游戏科学 and the Chinese usually shortened it as 游科。游科 sounds similar to 游蝌(swimming tadpole). That’s where their logo comes from, I think (read it from somewhere).
@knightjoker6142 I think he just wanted to make the creative idea for the company logo sound more high-end, so he made up the statement that lightning struck the atom.
Last time a game came from "a relatively unknown Studio" known more for "mobile gaming", we got Stellar Blade which is BY FAR 2024's Game of the Year. A game that came out complete, with barely to no bugs, beautiful graphics and even better character designs, and no micro-transaction whatsoever. So I'm WAY more inclined to give the devs of Black Myth Wukong a chance, than I am to give any more chances to anything out of garbage "AAA" Studios like Ubisloth or Woketivision Blizzard.
Very very good video, Luke. "Doesn't appear to have been done in good faith" was a wonderful statement. Your restraint and willingness to treat people with respect rather than dumping on them (no matter how much they seem to have earned it) is a great quality and part of the reason your opinions are so reliable. Yours is the kind of example people need and I'm confident that you are making the online community a better place. I can't wait to play this.
Whoever wrote that article at IGN was either incredibly desperate or had a serious grudge. Either way, their post was not professional, and they deserve to be punished for it.
I'm currently playing Wo Long because I'm new to Souls games. I'm enjoying it a lot, mainly because I love the Romance of the 3 kingdoms stories. Almost as much as I love Journey to the West and Wukong. I'm looking forward to playing this game!
I know the reason some people are trying to tear the game down. It's bc the game is from China. That's it. That's the entirety of the reason. It's a political hit job.
This one won't have super complicated level design. The devs literally said they don't want to make the levels a maze, with a lot of doors that won't open from this side, because they don't want to ruin the JOURNEY to the West. I think they are aiming for a story-driven linear level design like God of War.
@@rayxxx8187 Honestly, hearing that just increased my hype for this game even more. Open world and maze-like designs are so boring and overdone at this point. Give me a DMC or Ninja Gaiden style experience where I go through levels with tight pacing and zero wasted time.
People are way too emotional these days in the gaming industry,we’ll have horrible games and it gets praised so much but then we have games that have a chance to be a masterpiece and people will try to find an issue and blast it before it comes out
The version currently played by game media is a specially designed version. removed many things, such as NPC, tasks, and so on. This is a response received by the gaming media.
1. According to the information currently available, overall, this is a linear game (a linear story). Of course, between boss battles, there will be many RPG elements, such as items, equipment, upgrades, skill tree, side quests, mini bosses, hidden rewards, etc. It is likely that the game is level-based, each level will have branching paths and secrets to explore. There are regular enemies, and they will respawn like in Soulslike games, but compared to bosses, they are less difficult. Challenging Boss fights are the focus of the game. The graphics are super realistic, but there is no in game map, you can easily get lost, just like in a real jungle. Some players may consider this a bad design. Because if you ignore or miss those cultivation and exploration mechanisms, you may miss some important skills/weapons or some necessary growth, and the boss battle will become even more difficult. Or maybe others like it, we can't draw a conclusion yet. 2. On the surface, IGN's translation is not without basis, if you insist on interpreting it that way. However, many people have explained -> What the developer said is actually some common Chinese Internet slang that everyone uses. Some of the words may have some sexual connotations in real life slang at the beginning, but gradually they have become regular expressions on the Internet, and do not contain any special discriminatory meanings. Chinese language is very context-dependent. In real life, you can't just take the words literally. Well, I guess this is true for any language, especially in informal situations, such as on social media. The developer said a lot of things in his post ten years ago, and he was indeed criticizing some things, such as the gaming environment in China at that time. But in the IGN article, they only picked one sentence, distorted its meaning without considering the context, and drew a conclusion they wanted. I don't know why they are so shameless. Maybe because they're just plain stupid, maybe because they didn't get any $$$ from Game Science, or maybe they just hate China/Chinese. Sadly, we are living in a weird world.
The reason IGN is trying to to cancel this game might be that they rejected working with Sweet Baby Inc. for they stupid DEI scores. They are part of the global fight to force "diversity" and "inclusion" in videogames.
I think Xbox series s was a mistake because it is holding back developers and the Xbox series x. If this game is good, we need the Xbox boiys to support it too at launch to show devs these are the type games we like.
Supposedly it was because they didn’t want to pay sbi a $7 million consultation fee, and sbi made ign right that article. I don’t know if that’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.
@@HahahMamamanThat Story was bullshit UEG made a Video tracking the Source. Still a good example to be wary of gaming press regardless which side you Tage.
IGN article is an example of modern (gaming) journalism. No facts, clickbait title, full of emotions and opinions to cause certain behaviour of readers instead of presenting the information as it is and let the people to build the opinion based on the data they gained. Personally, I'm excited about Wu Kong and curious what the final game will be like. Hope it will have similar levels to Sekiro or Dark Souls series.
I for one am NOT down for it to be just loading into boss fights, because I don’t really like the souls-like allure where the draw is just how crazy and difficult the boss fights are, I’m hoping there’s more meat around the bone in terms of narrative and exploration.
I agree. Personally I think there is, but they're not showing it so despite all they've revealed, there's still surprises and things no one has seen. Hopefully.
Why is IGN digging on them? Because Sweet Baby Inc asked them millions of dollars to "curate" their games to make it more "inclusive" and they refused.
People keep saying this and I'm still waiting for any proof it actually happaned. The only thing this is based on is some anonymous Chinese blogger, who nobody can verify, providing this information and the information can also not be verified.
@@zacheltringham8524 People don’t really care if it’s real or not, they’ll make things up just to hate on Sweet Baby Inc more. I can make a rumor that Sweet Baby were really pushing in making the main character from Stellar Blade a fat chick but couldn’t because they lost a sword fight against the creators, and gamers will believe it because for them it’s more reasons to hate Sweet Baby. For gamers, Sweet Baby is basically Hitler.
@@zacheltringham8524while there is no concrete proof, with how SBI does things, nobody would be surprised if they did do that. Plus it's weird that all these hit pieces started to come out after their apparent refusal.
@Zerovin No, it's not. IGN has talked negatively about the game before, people just happened to notice it now. It's like when that train with toxic chemicals derailed in Ohio a few years back, people suddenly started to see more articles about train derailings. A lot of people were convinced it was connected, but train derailings were just more common and now articles about them were getting more clicks.
If IGN tells you not to buy a game, then it's more than likely good. If they tell you to buy a game, then research is needed to see why as they always have ulterior motives. They are not good games journalists.
I read articles from Chinese gaming journalism that this game seems to go all-out on the bosses, this game has more than 100 uniquely designed and fun boss encounters. But very little side activities to do between the boss fights.
Disappointing but understandable as there's a decent market for that style. Probably pass on it personally, souls likes are not my thing. Hope it turns out great for those that are though.
We Chinese players and the video maker who played the game demo for two and a half hours speculated that the reason for the large amount of guesses is that the game is based on the eighty-one tribulations of a mythological story, so there are many big and small BOSSes, and the map exploration is to reduce the difficulty of fighting the BOSS. There was very little exploration in the trial play, but the amount of map exploration content is kept very secret by the official. It is speculated that the amount of exploration in the later stage will be very large, mainly to prevent spoilers for Chinese players, so there are very few places to go. Because the number of Chinese players is too large, there will always be people who have thoroughly studied the geographical location of Journey to the West.
"But very little side activities to do between the boss fights." Don't be worry, the GS staff claims the real game won't be like this. (but I'm not sure about the design quality)
It's totally a lightning bolt hitting you in one testicle. I can see something that isn't there too, IGN. Every time Luke wheezes when laughing, I want to call him Luke Wheezens.
This is just another example. Can you really blame any gamer that they have nothing but scorn for IGN, Kotaku and all those other trash sites? They literally care ONLY for one thing and screw truth, integrity and honesty, screw professionalism. And they will go to absurd lengths to put EVERYTHING in context with their goals, even use false evidence, even forget any sort of professional scrutiny. But tell me, do you really ask yourself why? At this point, this isn't an isolated case, it's a method.
If there's anyone looking at gamescience logo and see male gametes, that tells more about the writer than the studio....geez that journalist is thirsty
There are some outlets that have done 4k captures that look good, VGC comes to mind. But IGN’s captures are almost always really poor quality. Idk why…
This game looks amazing, and the hit pieces by IGN are a very sad sight, and are seriously overplaying what has been said. Don't fall for their nonsense
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Who the fuck still takes IGN into consideration on anything anyway?
It's because Game Science wouldn't hire DEI consultants like Sweet Baby Inc. Remember how the SBI president said to scare your marketing department about the consequences of not hiring them? The IGN article was that consequence: a hit piece by a DEI ally. I realize that it's suuuuuper shocking that IGN has no journalistic integrity.
Woke people in the US that have never traveled outside of the US or Europe are the worst. They don’t realize that their ideology is the minority in the world. I like that people from completely different cultures are creating big games. That’s real diversity.
It's a Souls-like game, whether you like it or not. Whether the studio acknowledges it as a Souls-like or not. I hate how Chinese and Korean games are classified. They think the Souls-like genre is outdated and want to innovate
The IGN article apparently came after the studio rejected Sweet Baby Inc, Hit Detection, Baby Ghost and affiliates attempts at trying to get them to hire them as DEI consultants. But I'm not 100% sure if that is a fact, or if someone misreported it.
Thanks for explaining the negative talk arising from the IGN article. I didn't know about that. I'm looking forward to this game's release, and will get it on PS5. I don't normally play these kinds of games but I really like the Chinese mythology and the "Journey to the West" story.
Some director or something from Black Myth Wukong tweeted that sweet baby inc. was extorting them over I think 7(?) million dollars. To make their game 'inclusive' and when he told them its not the vision of his game they said they would cancel him. The IGN and kotaku shitstorm followed up.
no they didn't. the post you are referencing was a baidu post by an anti-American video game blogger who claimed a company "like" sweet baby inc tried to extort them. the claim was made without evidence or a first hand account
@@rosecity_chris Luke asked why ign was doing this weird shit, this is why this weird shit is happening. put your head in the sand and act like you better weirdo.
I speak Chinese, the snake spirit thing was correctly translated, it is indeed about covering the lower half and jking off, BUT the person that posted it, doesn't work for Game Science! Some people in his comment section say like "What? Is the game made by this dude j**king off to their own work?" and he responded "What are you talking about? I don't even work for game science." So people mistaken him to be game science people while he is actually not. BTW as I checked the post right now, he edited the post, he removed the whole "covering the lower half" thing, he probably feel bad for letting people use his words against Game Science while he doesn't even work for them. For the Chinese speakers, go to知乎 platform and search 戴巍, that's the dude.
I don't know if it's true or not but some people say that IGN is trying to cancel this game because the studio didn't want to work with Sweet baby inc. So it's culture war BS as far as I understand it anyway.
One random coment in the chinese "facebook" said that ign and SBI were trying to cancel de studio, and because it culture wars generate click people and keep us divided people have been parroting it as true while there is no proof and tons of things are proven to not be like the commenter said of just false. For example with IGN being one of the media with better treatment and exclusive access given by the studio.
That was a _false_ (AS USUAL) narrative pushed by Americans grifters based on a single post from the Chinese Twitter. *And most importantly* Ay coño, basta. Enough with the SBI nonsense. They are not bogie man. They are not a secret cabal controlling the industry. Try and _think_ a little bit and grow up.
The "rumour" is that they refused SBI's 7 million consultation fee. As there is a massive circle jerk with access media and these consultants , these hit pieces makes more sense. Your either in the cult or get cancelled.......
If you take a rumor where the only source is some rando on Weibo who has no corroborating evidence or sources at face value, you are a mark and should probably not be allowed to use a fork without adult supervision.
@@TauntauntauntaunIt just sounds like the rumor was made by someone that really hates SBI to the point that will make shit up so others join in on the hate.
Pretending that IGN is a legitimate, good faith player in the industry is always a mistake. I dont think the majority of the gaming community recognizes them at this point. They are a gaming rag for casuals and normies and are propped up by a small bubble of players with a loud megaphone.
What he said about the snake woman thing, the word he used in the end about "if I block the bottom half of her body from view, I can still..." He used the word 冲，which literally means rush, but it's a relatively new Internet slang, meaning to do all one can to reach a good result, and to put this in the context, what he's saying is, although her face looks different than what he expected, but she's still a damsel that he's willing to doing anything to fight for
Well to be completely fair, Judging by the context, “冲” in the sentence here would be the shortened word“手冲”. which means jerk off. But who cares, people be crazy if they think this justifies canceling a whole group of hard working developers’ passion project.
The more the likes of IGN try desesperately to find controversies and even manufacture them , the more the conspiracy theories about it being retaliations and blowback from their refusal to work with consulting DEI firms , make sense
@@Thanosdidtherighthing like i said it's a conspiracy theory ... so it seems farfetched . But the more they do crap like that , the more they make this feel sane . it's not even like the other prevalent theories , like they" just hate non western games and studios" make more sense
@@Thanosdidtherighthing Ask people claiming that . Makes zero sense to me . This would be beyond just being incompetent imho . How does one even hate asian studios , but enjoy videogames , especially on consoles ?
As an Xbox player I feel like the series S is holding the X behind. If MS allowed devs to opt out of making games for the sS I feel the platform would have far more games.
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Les go
Je suis excité
They want to get it cancelled because it doesn't fit the "agenda". It's a truly great game AND it's apolitical, and these envious jerks want to tear it down because they can't handle excellent things flourishing without their approval.
My money is on Game Science working hand in hand WITH IGN to try and drum up controversy. I mean, we've seen the results from EVERY.... SINGLE....TIME people try to boycott or cancel a game.
That result?
More sales for that game.
Lucas, are you wearing guy-liner? Asking for my mom.
Can't spell ignorance without ign
Are you people social needs? Genuinely asking. Nothing ignorant about it, it was all blatant facts. You're just triggered. It's pathetic.
@@bobdylan1968 0/10 Bait.
How original. IgN bAD!
Can you see the ratios on replies of comments?
@@Norcat10And sky is blue
And Nestle is evil MF
And Garten of banban is disgrace of mascot horror.
It's been said before and it can be said again. IGN is bad. That's the fact, not original but Facts.
There're two misunderstandings: first, 'getting licked' means being flattered in Chinese, so this post by the creator from the studio has nothing to do with sex. What it really means is basically He want to hire more people but too many people want to be hired so they flatter him too much and he can't get used to it. Second, the translation of the snake spirit is correct by IGN as '冲' does mean jerk off nowadays (though originally it does not, this is why GPT translate it the other way). But this pic has nothing to do with the studio as It's a post on a forum called Zhihu by some random guys.
That sentence does express the meaning of being flattered, but it does use a more vulgar metaphor (licking, erection), but for Feng Ji, "erection inability" in addition to being flattered, it also means that he feels the market's great expectation puts him under great pressure.
Basically getting harassed by wokes on twitter because he used some crude slang like say, "people keep fucking with me" or "you really suck at this"
Oh and for the snake lady it was something like : "if you cover the lower snake body she's fappable"
How could a young male gamer dev in his twenties say something so horrible...!
this game genuinely looks like a dream game. if you would have shown this to me 10 years ago i wouldnt have believed it was real
I remember watching the reveal about half a decade ago and I was certain it was fake. Then more and more footage just kept coming out now I can't believe we are almost at release
@@huricanethreeonesix I remember when a teaser was released for this game and the only reason why I believed it was legit was because Maximilian Dood noticed that when Wukong was fighting all those soldiers the FPS dropped. Games don't usually show FPS drops, especially fake ones, so when that happened people started believing that the game is real.
@@buggart I remember that too!
Pre ordered and cannot wait❤
I was looking forward to it as well, until I found out it was just a boss rush game. I love bosses in souls-like games don’t get me wrong, but I’m not interested in ONLY fighting bosses.
I hope Luke sees this：
Although the studio is new, the core members are not unknown. They were from Tencent's Quantum studio and were responsible for developing a discontinued MMORPG named Asura Online based on Journey to the West, the same as Wukong. You can still find Asura online's opening cinematic on RUclips, which is made by the same company that makes the recent Wukong CG teaser, named Original Force, based in Nanjing, China.
The art director, Yang Qi, had also described the inspiration behind the company logo in a Weibo post or a comment reply years ago, as a bolt of energy striking an elementary particle, elevating it to a higher quantum state. The concept reflects the company name, Game Science.
So basicaly they made a game that was never released. Im much more hyped now
@@andreichetan4694 Making a wonderful Journey to the West video game has been a dream for many of them. It's their passion and vision, and after years of collecting cash from mobile game market they finally pulled enough resource to try again. It's one of the reasons why they're receiving so much support.
@@andreichetan4694 actually it was released.But they dont have agreements with some parts of that game such as pay to win which is the studio disagree,so tencent got that game hidden(english not well,like the EA to the Dead Space)
now im even more skeptical. they went from making an mmo to a souls like. Larian went from making a crpg to a better crpg, that's why bg3 was good
@@shib5267 On the contrary, I think you should be hyped. The Asura MMO failed because the team originally intended to develop it as a single-player ARPG. Nevertheless, single-player games were not profitable in China at that time, so in order to gain Tencent's approval, they had to transform it into an online game. The public test version included plenty of elaborate music, voice-overs, and NPC backgrounds. However, when making an MMO, it is essential to pump out content as fast and regularly as possible for players to consume. After 1.0, they were unable to meet the deadlines while maintaining the initial quality standards, leading to a lack of financial success. Eventually, future updates were scrapped by Tencent. The core members departed and establish Game Science in 2014. By developing successful mobile games, they were able to generate funds to bring Black Myth to life, with the 2020 trailer dedicated to talent recruitment. The Wukong game is truly their passion project.
Boy, cant wait till IGN finds out about the logo volvo uses :D
Are they reviewing cars now? 😂
I can’t wait for IGN to file for bankruptcy because that’s what this type of journalism is leading to.
@@raigresham1298what do they review anyway?
@@hahahafunniness I’m sure they have a description on their page that will inform you. You should check it out!
good one😂
someone told me this about the company logo:
"Because the Chinese abbreviation for "game science" is "游科" (yóu kē), it sounds similar to "游蝌" (yóu kē) which means "swimming tadpoles" when read in Chinese.
The humorous play on words comes from the fact that the pronunciation of "游科" (yóu kē, for game science) is nearly identical to "游蝌" (yóu kē, swimming tadpoles) in Chinese. So when someone says "游科", it evokes a silly imagery of frolicking with tadpoles.
Using the English approximation "Yo-kuh" for the Chinese "游科" highlights this delightful linguistic ambiguity that arises from reading the tonal Chinese language, capturing the entertaining double meaning."
Dont overcomplicate things. Chinese has a nick of habit to shuffle on words. Go look at their local shops. Also it serves a purpose so that they can avoid duplicate trademarks (or sue the actual brand, like they did with Air Jordan)
yo this makes a lot of sense. since videogame is called 电玩, the word 电 itself means electric, go figure
That's right. This is a small homophone. As a Chinese, it also made me smile knowingly when I saw this logo for the first time.
As early as July 2021, someone asked the chief game graphic designer Yang Qi on Weibo what the LOGO meant. Yang Qi had already answered at that time that it meant lightning hitting an atom.
well, the official story I've heard is that lightning strikes atoms, and swimming tadpoles is more of a player-to-player rumor (although it does sound plausible)
I’m so stupid for this game. I picked up a copy of Journey to the West because of it.
Same! The lore is about to be juicy
Me too!!!
Takes me back to late middle school/early HS when I was obsessed with Wukong and started wondering if there were any Wukong games out there. Image my shock when the first thing I saw was this!
这本书光是故事就非常吸引人，但里面有非常隐晦的细节甚至中国人都看不出来，就比如说，唐僧去取经是因为观音菩萨告诉他他念的经是小乘佛法渡不了亡魂，但是唐僧在被猎人救了以后，出于好心念经渡猎人已经去世的母亲的亡魂，虽然他知道他的经渡不了亡魂。但猎人的母亲却当晚托梦告诉猎人，唐僧念经渡了她的亡魂。这里就是在告诉唐僧，他念的经有没有用，是佛想让它有没有用。
I picked up a copy of Monkey Folk Tale of China which is a very streamlined version of Journey to the West with only certain chapters but it’s still awesome
As a Chinese player, I want to clarify some parts of the video.
Firstly, regarding the company name and logo: The company is called Game Science. While the logo might appear misleading and resemble a sperm, the company explained in a 2021 interview with Chinese media that the logo represents an atom being struck by lightning. It's that simple. The comment suggesting that the Chinese abbreviation for "Game Science" ("游科" yóu kē) sounds like "游蝌" (yóu kē), meaning "swimming tadpole," is just a playful term used by players. It's not an official name given by the company.
Secondly, about the signboard advertising: There's no denying that the Chinese player Luke quotes in the video is correct. Their recruitment advertisements are indeed vulgar, but that doesn't mean they are sexist.
Next, they accused the game art director, Yang Qi, of calling for no female players. This is completely taken out of context.
When quoting his statement, you must consider the development context of the Chinese game industry. At that time, and even now, many character designs in Chinese games aesthetically pursued "白幼瘦" mindlessly（"白幼瘦" means having white skin, a youthful appearance, and a slender body.）. This applies not only to female characters but also to male characters in many game companies. It's absurd, right? Imagine if Kratos were a slender, fair-skinned man. Imagine if Arthur Morgan looked like an idol. It doesn't fit their story backgrounds at all, does it?
This is precisely what the game art director was trying to convey. We shouldn't pursue this kind of aesthetic because it makes men not look like men. We need to create something that truly embodies masculinity. Do you think that's sexist? At least, I don't think so.
Parts of the content as above are through the translation software. If there is something unclear to the READER, I can explain further.
You are wrong about most of your points.
@@Norcat10You can’t just say that without elaborating 💀
@@FatherToxic I literally just did 🔥
@@Norcat10 rage baiter 🙂↕️
@@FatherToxic You are arguing with a bot
I have no idea how IGN even has a say in anything at this point. They lost credibility many years ago - who is giving them the attention so that they stay relevant? Luke, it’s really simple and not that bizarre, the writer is actually the racist one. It really isn’t complicated.
The reason is Racism. Why? It's probably because IGN hates the fact that a Chinese studio made a visually stunning game instead of a Western one.
Totally agreed. As an Indian I can say that China and Chinese studios are gonna be at the forefront of AAA game industry in the coming years. They deserve respect, not mocking.
IGN 🤢🤮
I also think they are upset that they can’t put their fingers all in the to make it more “westernized” 😵💫 like AC shadows. 🤢
I’ll die on the hill of Ghost Of Tsushima is the real Japanese AC 😁 hey but everyone got the right to play whatever 😅
@@Rising._.ThunderI won't say that. Considering the amount of blatant rip off, they have I don't think the Chinese deserve that much respect.
This studio definitely does though
Aside: I don't think AAA/mobile studios deserves respect in the first place. The amount of micro transactions mechanics is sickening
I appreciate you doing your own research on that ign article and not just taking it at face value. Especially when it comes to translating. American's think every word they translate is literal just like the english language when in reality foreign languages are waaaaaay more complex with their words and can be translated many different ways.
It's especially perilous to translate between a glyph based language to a character based language. These Chinese glyphs each represents whole words and even phrases, unlike character based languages such as English where words are made up by individual distinct letters.
Allow me to give you an example.
In Chinese, "Zhe shi she me?" when translated literally into English, would be "This is what?"
Yes, when literally translated, the phrase is in broken sounding English, whereas the grammatically correct translation would be "What is this?"
This makes it incredibly easy to either unintentionally or maliciously mistranslate and misinterpret the Chinese language, for a wide variety of reasons.
All languages have these issues when translating. Even English.
@@acherontiaatropos6048 Yeah, but in significantly different ways. It's like asking a professional baker to cook and serve ratatouille. Baking isn't easy by any means, but making something like ratatouille is difficult in a completely different way and has a completely different skill set attached to it.
@@jmo8192 Sure, but what is weird grammar to English speakers is just normal grammar to Chinese speakers and vice versa. All languages have grammatical differences, idioms, puns, etc. that don't make sense in another language if you try to translate word for word. Somewhere out there are Chinese people saying how complex English is because it's only half-phonetic so you pretty much have to memorize how every word is spelled and our grammar and idioms sound exotic or nonsensical to them.
This game has probably the most beautiful postprocessing in any game to date. The particle effects, motion blur, DoF... not to mention the animation fluidity, lumen, nanite, VSMs,.. it's a feast for the eyes. Truly amazing use of UE5's features. 😲 It's so dense with detail that anyone on RUclips who doesn't know how to properly record and process videos to minimize compression artifacts is doing this game a disservice.
I don’t know what most of that stuff is, but I can tell you’re right 😅
@@DietersYT 😅 tldr is: If you have a good PC and a proper HDR monitor, this should really pop. 😁
@@DietersYT lighting, shadows, fog, god rays, light shining/scattering through thin objects etc
And the visuals is what got my attention 😅
They've shown the "connective tissue" quite a bit. There's even stealth parts that they've shown where you turn into a fly and what not.
A fly 😂 That's hilariously funny. I love the idea ❤
@@tarwod1098 a golden cicada to be precise :D. I cant wait to play this game :D
That’s what I was going to say.. they’ve show a decent bit of the “connective tissue” with some gameplay they released about a year ago.
It still looks extremely linear. Which is fine I just hope people aren't expecting souls like level design.
@@tomgreene5388i don’t want that tbh
Something tells me this game will be skill heavy and people will complain about it.
hope you're right
I think Rise of the Ronin showed you can get a skill heavy game and make it accessible enough. If that is not replicated widely then Souls types deserve to remain AA
@@kirechix there should be a niche for gamers who prefer a more challenging game.. everything gets worse and dull when diluted for "casual audiences".. in my opinion, far too many games have gotten more massive and lost focus.
@@kirechixrise of the ronins is also a game no one talks about. “Souls game remain to be AA” this statement tells me people like you ruin the industry.
@@kirechix Elden ring is AA?
Well, just look at Hogwarts Legacy and Stellar Blade. Both game studios had only made mobile games previously, and when they attempted to make AAA console games, they absolutely blew it out of the park, and there wasn't a single microtransaction in sight for either game. So let's hope that it's the same case for this studio with this promising looking game that I for one am absolutely looking forward to playing and can't wait to get my hands on!
Let's not forget Lies of P as well
Wukong is also selling at 50 dollars? idk why that seems odd to me.
@@huskytzu7709why? Do you prefer spending more money?
@@huskytzu770960 and 70 for deluxe. Not really that odd
And now that studio that mad3 hogwarts legacy is doing liv3 service and leaving that game so they didn't do anything that great with it.
Game was mediocre
Worst case scenario the game studio was having a bit of cheecky fun and decided to make the logo look like sperm. Best case scenario when designing the logo the deves accidentally miss drew a lighting bolt or a projectile . Either way WHO THE HELL CARES. This game speaks for it self and Game Science should be very proud of the work they have produced. Also, if you are really getting butt hurt over a logo then I feel bad for you because I cant imagine how you are reacting to other things in the world that are FAR WORSE then this.
The negative article is probably from that guy who tweeted about Baldurs Gate 3, saying it shouldn’t be the standard for games or whatever.
23:30 it's a tadpole, aka young frog. In chinese the short name of Game Science (游戏科学) is 游科, which has the exact same pronunciation of "游蝌", meanning "swimming tadpole", and hence the tadpole logo, it's just a pun
This game looks like it's gonna be good!
If it's not a souls like, it will be good!
@@Astristul Why do you say that? I don't care if it is a souls like or not, it just looks fun...I get a bit of a Nioh combat vibe from looking at it though...
@@Astristulsouls like difficultly
@brucepreston3927 true..
Wait for reviews that aren’t IGN, Polygon, or Kotaku. Probably some of the most biased ‘journalism out there’
Add Eurogamer to that list.
ACG and Skillup are good, also fextralife and cowboy for souls like action adventure.
*Videogame Urinalists😂
Just use RUclips.
@atgwiuz
I stopped watching ACG. He doesn't call out problems in games like he used to.
The large majority of his videos are him rambling on and saying absolutely nothing of merit.
Each to their own, the difference in quality is most certainly clear to see, though.
Its funny how the more subscribers a channel gets the worse they become.
Bro said 8 Hours on the Starfield video... Holy shit. A straight full days shift of a video 😅
I'm kinda shocked. What else is there to discuss about that game that haven't been said already? And for eight hours to boot. I guess some people just don't value their time all that much.
Tbh, after Lies of P, a game made by literally who korean dev which was fantastic, I have nothing but high hopes.
But this is a Chinese game not Korean
Speaking of, I need news on their dlc NOW
Stellar Blade too
@@yous2244 still a literally who asian developer that are making a very ambitious project and are working on it very professionally. Gives me very much the same vibe.
u didn't notice but on 1650 card(min req) they tested the game on 1080p with DLSS
I definitely see it being more like God of War than a souls game. A lot of dark fantasy games with a roll button are instantly going to be incorrectly labelled souls games now I reckon.
I think we will live.
It looks 100% soulslike, it's not a bad thing
@@glowinTHX Of course, I love souls games and God of War so it's a win regardless for me.
@@TurtlePops I don't see any resemblance to GoW but you may seeing something I don't which is cool. 👍
@@glowinTHXdevs said it’s not a souls like
So about the content between boss fights, there is more info in Chinese community. Those who got invited to play said that the maps are separate by storyline, and each chapter may have slightly different map designs, some is more linear and some is more open world.
For the latest 2-hour demo, they say the map is like 3 big areas, each has several branches, and on each branch route there maybe some elite monsters, or quests, collecting job, these kind of stuff, and you can get things like armors, new transformation, new magic acctaks, making the map final boss relatively easier. Or you can just ignore the branches and rush to the final boss
What a lot will not know, is how draped in chinese fantasy this game is. The monkey king i first came across in the 70's with the tv series monkey magic, and capcoms 'sonson' in the arcade from 1984. This is deep into chinese fantasy lore as you will ever get.
Ign are living up to the name 'ignorant'
Dragon Ball was my first introduction to journey to the west... Hearing what it was based off got me interested, Now there is a video game adaptation of that same folk lore that Akira Toriyama (R.I.P) used for inspiration. Im invested and it looks good.
I'm sure a fair but will know lol
Wukong has been depicted in games movies and shows for decades
@@lucaleone4331 you know my friend,
Many dont make the connection. Its great that you know and i hope im very wrong 😄
Listen you can make the argument that as a Chinese developer they should not be supported due to heavy ties to the government which is practically a dictatorship and they rule by fear and class divides,
However I’m of the mindset that people should enjoy a game no matter where it’s made. If it looks and feels fun to play, then what’s the issue
Shift Up, the developers of Stellar Blade, are also a mobile games company who made their console debut and that was a success, which makes me hopeful that this will be a similar situation if not better
The Korean Round8 and Neowiz were also mobile game devs but Lies of P was just an incredible first effort. Serviceable lore, polished gameplay, good level design and even the voice acting and the OST were pretty amazing IMO. Oh and it runs amazing. My FPS usually hovered around 150-170 FPS at 1440p with an RX 6900 XT. Which is crazy when Steel Rising could barely hit 80 on my system.
Dude, Stellar Blade was an amazing game! Best game I've played this year by far. I hope we see more solid games from this part of the industry.
Stellar blade is alright, but I don't like shift up as an organisation due to their extreme unethical working enviroments, my gf worked there as administrator and she told me women over there are absolutely exploited and patronised.
So when that stellar blade controversy came along I knew it had many slivers of truth.
@@pandemix69Play more games
This seems to be turning into the path for indie dev companies to become AAA studios:
Step 1. Make tons of money selling mobile games
Step 2. Use that money to fund your AAA amazing PC/console game without having to answer to a publisher
There are 3 examples of this happening now:
- Lies of P (more AA)
- Stellar Blade
- Black Myth Wu Kong
Unless I'm mistaken, Lies of P devs started with mobile games and that game is my Game of the year for 2023.
for 2023 right?
for 2023 right?
Here’s to hoping there will be a dlc
I mean... it's a decent game, but GOTY? in 2023??? Tell me you didn't play a lot of games in 2023 without telling me you didn't play a lot of games in 2023.
Either that, or you have really narrow genre preferences.
@@blackshard641 I played pretty much all the heavy hitters and while it’s not my game of the year, I can totally see it being someone’s favorite. Probably the best action rpg (I didn’t play Armored Core tho) of the year and there were a lot
Luke you've already shown your investigative skills, you're perfectly capable of finding out what caused the nontroversy. I know it's a topic you don't want to cover but you'll gain a lot of respect if you do.
Exactly. Sweet baby inc detected.
IGN goofing off once again, knew they couldn't go two-for-two after the hit that was the Suicide Squad review
To quote miss Anita: "Everything is racist. Everything is sexist. And you have to point it ALL out." These journalists took that quote to heart and made it their mission to carry out.
Wow, 3 minute intro followed directly by an ad...nice
I've been waiting for this game for 2 plus years like a lot of us and if it's not good I'll be heartbroken
I'm sorry, I really couldn't help laughing when you said the logo part.
Gamescience’s logo looks like a swimming tadpole. Gamescience’s Chinese name is 游戏科学 and the Chinese usually shortened it as 游科。游科 sounds similar to 游蝌(swimming tadpole). That’s where their logo comes from, I think (read it from somewhere).
游科 and 游蝌 sounds exactly the same, and yes, that's where their logo comes from.
but actually it just means lightning hitting an atom.(from a leader of Gamescience,Yang Qi)
As a native Chinese, I never thought about it before seeing this on ytb. lmfao
@knightjoker6142 I think he just wanted to make the creative idea for the company logo sound more high-end, so he made up the statement that lightning struck the atom.
Last time a game came from "a relatively unknown Studio" known more for "mobile gaming", we got Stellar Blade which is BY FAR 2024's Game of the Year. A game that came out complete, with barely to no bugs, beautiful graphics and even better character designs, and no micro-transaction whatsoever.
So I'm WAY more inclined to give the devs of Black Myth Wukong a chance, than I am to give any more chances to anything out of garbage "AAA" Studios like Ubisloth or Woketivision Blizzard.
IGN: shit floats to the top
Very very good video, Luke.
"Doesn't appear to have been done in good faith" was a wonderful statement.
Your restraint and willingness to treat people with respect rather than dumping on them (no matter how much they seem to have earned it) is a great quality and part of the reason your opinions are so reliable. Yours is the kind of example people need and I'm confident that you are making the online community a better place.
I can't wait to play this.
Im surprised ''Urnalists'' didn't pull the racist card because it is called ''BLACK'' Myth Wukong.
Whoever wrote that article at IGN was either incredibly desperate or had a serious grudge. Either way, their post was not professional, and they deserve to be punished for it.
I'm currently playing Wo Long because I'm new to Souls games. I'm enjoying it a lot, mainly because I love the Romance of the 3 kingdoms stories. Almost as much as I love Journey to the West and Wukong. I'm looking forward to playing this game!
LUKE WHY DONT YOU DO A SKEPTICAL LOOK AT ASSASSINS CREED SHADOWS PLEASE INSTEAD OF TIP TOEING AROUND WHAT YOU SAY B/C YOU GOT PAID BY THEM.
Seriously 🤣
this is a brain dead comment
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Because that game isn’t near release like this one
He normally does them near release mate
They wouldve had better luck claiming the logo was one bolt from the SS logo LOL
I know the reason some people are trying to tear the game down. It's bc the game is from China.
That's it. That's the entirety of the reason. It's a political hit job.
My only concern so far has been good level design which fromsoftware excels at. Aside from that game looks great
This one won't have super complicated level design. The devs literally said they don't want to make the levels a maze, with a lot of doors that won't open from this side, because they don't want to ruin the JOURNEY to the West. I think they are aiming for a story-driven linear level design like God of War.
So lower your expectation on that one
@@rayxxx8187 Honestly, hearing that just increased my hype for this game even more. Open world and maze-like designs are so boring and overdone at this point. Give me a DMC or Ninja Gaiden style experience where I go through levels with tight pacing and zero wasted time.
People are way too emotional these days in the gaming industry,we’ll have horrible games and it gets praised so much but then we have games that have a chance to be a masterpiece and people will try to find an issue and blast it before it comes out
I feel the same it's true😊
100% FACTS
The version currently played by game media is a specially designed version. removed many things, such as NPC, tasks, and so on. This is a response received by the gaming media.
So this is a skeptical look at IGN more than anything, it appears there's not much negative to say about the game as of now
Game journalists is a joke
They are all owned by the same people. Small hats
1. According to the information currently available, overall, this is a linear game (a linear story). Of course, between boss battles, there will be many RPG elements, such as items, equipment, upgrades, skill tree, side quests, mini bosses, hidden rewards, etc. It is likely that the game is level-based, each level will have branching paths and secrets to explore. There are regular enemies, and they will respawn like in Soulslike games, but compared to bosses, they are less difficult. Challenging Boss fights are the focus of the game. The graphics are super realistic, but there is no in game map, you can easily get lost, just like in a real jungle. Some players may consider this a bad design. Because if you ignore or miss those cultivation and exploration mechanisms, you may miss some important skills/weapons or some necessary growth, and the boss battle will become even more difficult. Or maybe others like it, we can't draw a conclusion yet.
2. On the surface, IGN's translation is not without basis, if you insist on interpreting it that way. However, many people have explained -> What the developer said is actually some common Chinese Internet slang that everyone uses. Some of the words may have some sexual connotations in real life slang at the beginning, but gradually they have become regular expressions on the Internet, and do not contain any special discriminatory meanings. Chinese language is very context-dependent. In real life, you can't just take the words literally. Well, I guess this is true for any language, especially in informal situations, such as on social media. The developer said a lot of things in his post ten years ago, and he was indeed criticizing some things, such as the gaming environment in China at that time. But in the IGN article, they only picked one sentence, distorted its meaning without considering the context, and drew a conclusion they wanted. I don't know why they are so shameless. Maybe because they're just plain stupid, maybe because they didn't get any $$$ from Game Science, or maybe they just hate China/Chinese. Sadly, we are living in a weird world.
The reason IGN is trying to to cancel this game might be that they rejected working with Sweet Baby Inc. for they stupid DEI scores. They are part of the global fight to force "diversity" and "inclusion" in videogames.
I think Xbox series s was a mistake because it is holding back developers and the Xbox series x. If this game is good, we need the Xbox boiys to support it too at launch to show devs these are the type games we like.
Maybe it’s because there isn’t any monetization and that’s why IGN wants it canceled
Supposedly it was because they didn’t want to pay sbi a $7 million consultation fee, and sbi made ign right that article. I don’t know if that’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.
@@HahahMamamanThat Story was bullshit UEG made a Video tracking the Source. Still a good example to be wary of gaming press regardless which side you Tage.
@@HahahMamamanthat’s some conspiracy level stuff, zero chance it’s anything but rage bait.
@@HahahMamamanThat sounds stupid.
terrible vacation then!
Between boss fights you do base building, collect resources and try tame many dinosaurus which help you fighting with bosses.
IGN article is an example of modern (gaming) journalism. No facts, clickbait title, full of emotions and opinions to cause certain behaviour of readers instead of presenting the information as it is and let the people to build the opinion based on the data they gained.
Personally, I'm excited about Wu Kong and curious what the final game will be like. Hope it will have similar levels to Sekiro or Dark Souls series.
I for one am NOT down for it to be just loading into boss fights, because I don’t really like the souls-like allure where the draw is just how crazy and difficult the boss fights are, I’m hoping there’s more meat around the bone in terms of narrative and exploration.
I agree. Personally I think there is, but they're not showing it so despite all they've revealed, there's still surprises and things no one has seen. Hopefully.
Play Pokémon then
@@rosecity_chris some articles mentioned there will be NPSs with side quests and also crafting and set armors which give bonuses
I heard it’s a boss rush type of game.
@@jesosos5914 that’s a shame.
Why is IGN digging on them? Because Sweet Baby Inc asked them millions of dollars to "curate" their games to make it more "inclusive" and they refused.
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
People keep saying this and I'm still waiting for any proof it actually happaned. The only thing this is based on is some anonymous Chinese blogger, who nobody can verify, providing this information and the information can also not be verified.
@@zacheltringham8524 People don’t really care if it’s real or not, they’ll make things up just to hate on Sweet Baby Inc more. I can make a rumor that Sweet Baby were really pushing in making the main character from Stellar Blade a fat chick but couldn’t because they lost a sword fight against the creators, and gamers will believe it because for them it’s more reasons to hate Sweet Baby. For gamers, Sweet Baby is basically Hitler.
@@zacheltringham8524while there is no concrete proof, with how SBI does things, nobody would be surprised if they did do that. Plus it's weird that all these hit pieces started to come out after their apparent refusal.
@Zerovin No, it's not. IGN has talked negatively about the game before, people just happened to notice it now. It's like when that train with toxic chemicals derailed in Ohio a few years back, people suddenly started to see more articles about train derailings. A lot of people were convinced it was connected, but train derailings were just more common and now articles about them were getting more clicks.
If IGN tells you not to buy a game, then it's more than likely good. If they tell you to buy a game, then research is needed to see why as they always have ulterior motives. They are not good games journalists.
Where’s the “skeptical look” on Star Wars Outlaws or AC Shadows…oh yeah Ubisoft pays you so those aren’t coming.
You're skeptical of this but you will keep giving kill the Justice League optimistic chances over and over.
I read articles from Chinese gaming journalism that this game seems to go all-out on the bosses, this game has more than 100 uniquely designed and fun boss encounters. But very little side activities to do between the boss fights.
Disappointing but understandable as there's a decent market for that style. Probably pass on it personally, souls likes are not my thing. Hope it turns out great for those that are though.
@@MichaelJPThis is 100% not a Souls-like game
@@MichaelJPwell good thing this isn't a souls like
We Chinese players and the video maker who played the game demo for two and a half hours speculated that the reason for the large amount of guesses is that the game is based on the eighty-one tribulations of a mythological story, so there are many big and small BOSSes, and the map exploration is to reduce the difficulty of fighting the BOSS. There was very little exploration in the trial play, but the amount of map exploration content is kept very secret by the official. It is speculated that the amount of exploration in the later stage will be very large, mainly to prevent spoilers for Chinese players, so there are very few places to go. Because the number of Chinese players is too large, there will always be people who have thoroughly studied the geographical location of Journey to the West.
"But very little side activities to do between the boss fights." Don't be worry, the GS staff claims the real game won't be like this. (but I'm not sure about the design quality)
It's totally a lightning bolt hitting you in one testicle.
I can see something that isn't there too, IGN.
Every time Luke wheezes when laughing, I want to call him Luke Wheezens.
This is just another example. Can you really blame any gamer that they have nothing but scorn for IGN, Kotaku and all those other trash sites?
They literally care ONLY for one thing and screw truth, integrity and honesty, screw professionalism.
And they will go to absurd lengths to put EVERYTHING in context with their goals, even use false evidence, even forget any sort of professional scrutiny.
But tell me, do you really ask yourself why? At this point, this isn't an isolated case, it's a method.
Awesome breakdown Wukong looks epic, but I swear if it's as hard as Elden Ring DLC, I'm gonna need a therapist on speed dial 😂
游戏科学的logo的意思是“捕捉光子”
😂😂
If there's anyone looking at gamescience logo and see male gametes, that tells more about the writer than the studio....geez that journalist is thirsty
Game is so good that they are trying to stop it 😂
I hope it will run well on most PC hardware 👍
I still don't get why the game looks like it's 1080p and blurry??? Why can't anyone show at 4K or even 2K???
There are some outlets that have done 4k captures that look good, VGC comes to mind. But IGN’s captures are almost always really poor quality. Idk why…
@@LukeStephensTVat this point I just look at iGN for trailers (sometimes) 😅
@@LukeStephensTV have you seen the system requirements on steam and that theyre posted using dlss and fsr??
This game looks amazing, and the hit pieces by IGN are a very sad sight, and are seriously overplaying what has been said. Don't fall for their nonsense
Who the fuck still takes IGN into consideration on anything anyway?
telling us your wife does not interest you very much without saying your wife and family don't interest you very much lol
Auch
It's because Game Science wouldn't hire DEI consultants like Sweet Baby Inc. Remember how the SBI president said to scare your marketing department about the consequences of not hiring them? The IGN article was that consequence: a hit piece by a DEI ally. I realize that it's suuuuuper shocking that IGN has no journalistic integrity.
Na Ign has been saying whatever they can to have more viewers. I suspect they're on a downtrend financially.
Maybe it's like shadow of the colossus, where you just move from one area to the other to fight the bosses(monsters or colossus..)
Woke people in the US that have never traveled outside of the US or Europe are the worst. They don’t realize that their ideology is the minority in the world. I like that people from completely different cultures are creating big games. That’s real diversity.
Been waiting fr this game for sooooooo long
still waiting got it preordered got a month to go ughhhhhhh I hate waiting xD
The logo looks like lightning strike punch that used on old manga to me
I'll admit. It still cocks my eye brow that there's no physical disc version and they are charging full price.
It's a Souls-like game, whether you like it or not. Whether the studio acknowledges it as a Souls-like or not. I hate how Chinese and Korean games are classified. They think the Souls-like genre is outdated and want to innovate
Looks like a souls-like except the gameplay actually looks good
Souls games are 💩
Oh no not innervation!
What makes you say it's a Souls-like game? Because for a lot of people, anything third person with melee combat gets classified as Souls-like.
@@zuriyel5368 Hopefully it's not..looks fun and fast to me... Stellar Blade rocked!
The IGN article apparently came after the studio rejected Sweet Baby Inc, Hit Detection, Baby Ghost and affiliates attempts at trying to get them to hire them as DEI consultants. But I'm not 100% sure if that is a fact, or if someone misreported it.
How are these journalists not getting canceled themselves for attempting to cancel others
Thanks for explaining the negative talk arising from the IGN article. I didn't know about that. I'm looking forward to this game's release, and will get it on PS5. I don't normally play these kinds of games but I really like the Chinese mythology and the "Journey to the West" story.
Even I am worried about the between the boss fights.. right now it's looking like just boss fights one after another.
The game definitely has other aspects to it.
because it is just a demo ,the real one won't be like that.
Some director or something from Black Myth Wukong tweeted that sweet baby inc. was extorting them over I think 7(?) million dollars.
To make their game 'inclusive' and when he told them its not the vision of his game they said they would cancel him.
The IGN and kotaku shitstorm followed up.
DEI(DIE) a corporate WEF/Blackrock initiative. IGN and Kotaku are part of the corporate media that exist to enforce the narrative.
no they didn't. the post you are referencing was a baidu post by an anti-American video game blogger who claimed a company "like" sweet baby inc tried to extort them. the claim was made without evidence or a first hand account
Please touch grass
Incorrect, that was a rumor from a baidu comment and wasn't backed by any evidence
@@rosecity_chris Luke asked why ign was doing this weird shit, this is why this weird shit is happening. put your head in the sand and act like you better weirdo.
This is my most anticipated game of the year.
Thx for this skeptical look telling us everything we already know about the game. “Its good”
You can never know if a game is good for you or not until you play it.
They told sweet baby inc to take a hike. That's enough for me to trust the game will be good.
I preordered it! I cannot wait for August. Im not skeptical I’m psyched!
This is how you make a 28 minute video without saying anything
I speak Chinese, the snake spirit thing was correctly translated, it is indeed about covering the lower half and jking off, BUT the person that posted it, doesn't work for Game Science! Some people in his comment section say like "What? Is the game made by this dude j**king off to their own work?" and he responded "What are you talking about? I don't even work for game science." So people mistaken him to be game science people while he is actually not. BTW as I checked the post right now, he edited the post, he removed the whole "covering the lower half" thing, he probably feel bad for letting people use his words against Game Science while he doesn't even work for them. For the Chinese speakers, go to知乎 platform and search 戴巍, that's the dude.
I don't know if it's true or not but some people say that IGN is trying to cancel this game because the studio didn't want to work with Sweet baby inc. So it's culture war BS as far as I understand it anyway.
I've heard the same thing
One random coment in the chinese "facebook" said that ign and SBI were trying to cancel de studio, and because it culture wars generate click people and keep us divided people have been parroting it as true while there is no proof and tons of things are proven to not be like the commenter said of just false. For example with IGN being one of the media with better treatment and exclusive access given by the studio.
LMAO
Anti-wokes will literally make up anything to cope themselves into feeling relevant. It's truly impressive.
That was a _false_ (AS USUAL) narrative pushed by Americans grifters based on a single post from the Chinese Twitter.
*And most importantly*
Ay coño, basta. Enough with the SBI nonsense. They are not bogie man. They are not a secret cabal controlling the industry.
Try and _think_ a little bit and grow up.
@@TheMysterieRPGguy that was and still is a false narrative.
Grifters have clearly damaged your brain.
The "rumour" is that they refused SBI's 7 million consultation fee. As there is a massive circle jerk with access media and these consultants , these hit pieces makes more sense. Your either in the cult or get cancelled.......
If you take a rumor where the only source is some rando on Weibo who has no corroborating evidence or sources at face value, you are a mark and should probably not be allowed to use a fork without adult supervision.
Oy vey
A rumour without robust evidence... 😅
Cool “rumor”….and you don’t know what being “cancel” means if you think this game is cancelled lol
@@TauntauntauntaunIt just sounds like the rumor was made by someone that really hates SBI to the point that will make shit up so others join in on the hate.
Pretending that IGN is a legitimate, good faith player in the industry is always a mistake. I dont think the majority of the gaming community recognizes them at this point. They are a gaming rag for casuals and normies and are propped up by a small bubble of players with a loud megaphone.
Don’t know why I didn’t think of it, but that could be a lightning bolt coming from the nimbus cloud.
What he said about the snake woman thing, the word he used in the end about "if I block the bottom half of her body from view, I can still..." He used the word 冲，which literally means rush, but it's a relatively new Internet slang, meaning to do all one can to reach a good result, and to put this in the context, what he's saying is, although her face looks different than what he expected, but she's still a damsel that he's willing to doing anything to fight for
Well to be completely fair, Judging by the context, “冲” in the sentence here would be the shortened word“手冲”. which means jerk off. But who cares, people be crazy if they think this justifies canceling a whole group of hard working developers’ passion project.
The more the likes of IGN try desesperately to find controversies and even manufacture them , the more the conspiracy theories about it being retaliations and blowback from their refusal to work with consulting DEI firms , make sense
I doubt IGN cares about that. They know people like you will jump on a side in the culture war and give them views lol
@@Thanosdidtherighthing like i said it's a conspiracy theory ... so it seems farfetched . But the more they do crap like that , the more they make this feel sane . it's not even like the other prevalent theories , like they" just hate non western games and studios" make more sense
@@ZarathosDaimaoh What would be their motive for hating them ? lol . I’m genuinely curious
@@Thanosdidtherighthing Ask people claiming that . Makes zero sense to me . This would be beyond just being incompetent imho . How does one even hate asian studios , but enjoy videogames , especially on consoles ?
Bruh just look up Alyssa Mercante and it'll all make sense. These are the "journalists" covering these games.
As an Xbox player I feel like the series S is holding the X behind. If MS allowed devs to opt out of making games for the sS I feel the platform would have far more games.