Traktor Pro 3.6.0 - Back From The Dead? | Beatsource Tech
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- After a few years of apparent stagnation, Native Instruments seem to be taking a renewed interest in their DJ software, Traktor Pro. The new version, 3.6.0, brings with it some new features, as well as a subscription offering, Traktor Pro Plus. On the new episode of Beatsource Tech, we check those out, and look at the roadmap the company has provided for the future direction of the app.
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All this subscription stuff is really killing the vibes.
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Mojax
yes.
As an active Tractor user I see no value in subscription right now.
1) Pattern player - it's too minimalistic. I can easily replace it with remix deck or Maschine plugged into live input deck. What would sold it to me? If I could launch Maschine 2 in VST mode as a deck without external wiring - that would be awesome!
2) iZotope Maximizer - as Mojax explained - we don't need any extra compression on mastered tracks. Can be replaced with standalone compressor.
3) Additional FX - not sure how it would be implemented. If it's just extra FX available with the subscription - it sucks. What I'd like is ability to use VST FX in Traktor and even chain them (similar to how we do it in Maschine). That would make Traktor truly Pro!
Anyway I'm glad that the product is developing and would be glad to see new NI hardware released.
I agree. You kind of have to be able to show consistent development and innovation to warrant a subscription service. I would also like to see traktor come out with a mid-high level standalone unit like the denondj prime4 while being able to attach f1 x1 controllers
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
I've been a Traktor user for almost ten years and I'm still using it today. Elastic Beatgrids are the *only* thing I want. I play mainly older music, typically 80s, which is often drummed by humans and therefore timing is all over the place. I've invested a lot of money in most of the NI controllers, including DVS so I'm pleased to see some development at last.
Traktor was my first.. I spent more than a decade using it... I started using it less when I picked up the Denon Prime kit as it is standalone.. To date however, Traktor + Xone 96 + Kontrol X1 still sounds better than the dedicated players when rendering at 96khz... As such, very happy to see the product evolve. I personally am not in for the subscription at this time as I don't see a value to it - today. I also would LOVE to see elastic beatgrids. If I were to request future features from NI it would be HID control form Denon Prime decks, and Native SoundSwitch integration
I used Traktor every day for about seven years and in Dec 2019 I was sick of the lack of development… but still LOVE the platform. @Mojaxx nailed it, Traktor is hands down the BEST DJ software for insanely advanced MIDI mapping, and creating a modular custom DJ setup. BY FAR the nerdiest user base and that pushes the DJ culture forward too.
When I arrived at NAMM 2020, I was so upset that NI really had nothing significant to show us (and the booth was appointment only) that I said “I’m going back to Serato for a year and then I’ll decide what platform I prefer.” Then Denon started kicking ass with standalone equipment, so here I am with one foot in Serato world and one in Denon stand-alone gear. I kept my NI controllers, and Z2 mixers purely out of hope for an announcement like this. I’m excited but simultaneously bitter and scarred because they’ve abandoned us before.
Mannnnnn, I rode so hard for Traktor. So damn much for so damn long... To this day, I’ve never had Traktor crash on me at a gig, and had many Serato crashes. If it wasn’t for the radio silence from NI and feeling of abandonment, I’d be all in again with this news alone. I’m going to have my eyes on this very closely and if anyone at NI reads this…
I love this news and product, but I’m afraid you might kick us in the chest again… please please don’t let me down
Ironic this happened as I recently switch to Traktor. Personally, I’d love to see new, modern hardware. RGB cue points, a new mixer, or something crazy like an XDJ-type device designed specifically for Traktor.
I just recently bought a brand new S5 from NI on their Reverb store. It is excellent!
Traktor Z2, would love to see a new version on the roadmap
Bro, we all would but sadly, I don’t think it will ever happen
@@BigBuddyNoc Ya I gave up on my Z2, I'm using a Rane 72 with a custom mapping & it's pretty much what I would have wanted the Z2 to be
I would love a 4ch mixer version of that one 🙂
Awesome video, my friend. Honestly, I always loved Traktor but it’s the lack of hardware and third party support that ruins it all for me. Can we, will we ever get a Z2 MK2?!
Elastic Beatggrids are one of the only functions/features (and an option to edit them) needed on Traktor to compete with other DJ softwares out there. The fact that I can do plug & play with most CDJs out there in HID mode (Basically controlling CDJs like a controller) is keeping me from switching to other softwares out there like Serato, Rekordbox and VDJ for the mere fact that it's my most prioritised software for the past 10 years. Elastic Beatgrids can even help with quantizing tracks that's ripped from Vinyl since it doesn't have a set BPM due to external factors. Most of my old school tracks needs constant nudging when mixing in/out from one track to another.
Thanks for your honest opinion and what you contribute to the DJing industry across the world Mojaxx.
I still use a Numark 4trak with an F1 to the side running Traktor 3.6.0. Even tho I have Denon sc6000ms & x1850, I use the 4trak with a surface pro 5 when I'm asked to do house\garden parties 👍. Fingers crossed NI and Denon work on a HID mode together.
Traktor with beatport is a blessing. However the beatport search within traktor could do with some polishing as sometimes I want to only find a label or artist and not the entire BPs catalogue 🧐.... Hopefully this will be looked at.
Also can't wait for the long awaited flexi beat grids so I can play my stored vinyl rips with loops & beatjumps with minimal fuss 👌
Totally agree about the X1MK2. I have two that sit between a Xone 96 and my 1200s. Very flexible, capable, and adaptable setup. All other DVS setups aren’t all that interesting to me because the X1 is just so good.
X1 mk1 was probably the best modular controller made (albeit the ability to truly customise the look eg. Text on buttons). I would have continued to support NI if they continued to support their hardware. Now it doesn't connect to new Macs at all let alone you have to do tiresome workarounds to get it even working on any Macbook updated in the last few years.
I’m still using Traktor Pro and the Traktor S8. I love how it works. Can’t believe the S8 came out as long ago as it did.
same, so advanced and funny to use still today
I’m a huge Traktor guy! All of this is not really going to get me to fall in love with them again but it’s nice to know they haven’t forgotten about us. I waited years for an update on the Z2 and it never happened… so I bought a S7, and I quickly found out how superior the Traktor program is compared to Serato. Serato takes me back to Feel that Final Scratch had, and it’s okay because the S7 gives the illusion that Serato is a good DJ program but it’s not. My solution was to get a Traktor map for my S7 use the mixer at 20 percent, and have 100% of the Traktor program.
I will use Serato and my S7 together and it works. It’s very humbling. I still wait for Traktor to give me a Z2 MK2 and I’ll sell my S7 in a heartbeat.
I've moved over to serato after using Traktor for 10 years. I didn't see any development from their side as you said and there used to be dj craze and shiftee on board which a big plus for me as a hip hop dj. Traktor used to be also a hip hop dj software and we have seen big hip hop dj names using their software and hardware and doing some crazy routines. At some point they didn't bring any new dj mixer other than the Z2. They stopped there and unfortunately as the technology is moving forward they stayed back from that perspective. So I've bought the Rane 72 a-trak edition and moved on. It was a hard transition after being such a long user of Traktor but it was a necessary move because Traktor was Holding the hip hop DJ's back. I'm happy with this change. I liked some stuff from Traktor which serato don't have but maybe it's something that I got used to and in time it will get better. I still have much respect for Traktor and I wished they would continue their development and I would have never moved on. Hopefully they will get back on track again.
I did the same... very happy i switched now that ive started to finally get my cues back in order. NI pretty much abandoned us dvs users long time ago, i wish i made the shift sooner!
yes, got on traktor when the Z2 came out, back to Serato when the S9 came out. never looked back. Seems like Qbert still likes to rock the Z2, theyd be smart to collab w him on Z2 MK2 or Z2/Rev7 typa deal.
I've been a Traktor user since forever. I love using it at the clubs in HID mode on 2000 and 2000nxs. Solid. Haven't used it on the 3000's yet. DVS with Phase for Home and private parties is Solid too. No complaints here. Still Traktor strong.
Probably moving on now. I appreciate the roadmap, as it's told me that the things I need most aren't going to be here for a while.
Everyone's talking about the EBGs and I'm all in with that. Traktor pulled split cue from the software in the upgrade from 2.x to 3. I can make that work but it's a hassle and adds 2 more cables and another device. But let's face it - the hardware isn't new, and there aren't many choices out there for traktor software lovers.
The S4Mk3 was introduced 4 years ago and support for others' hardware has vanished. I love Denon hardware. Love Traktor's beatgridding, looping/beatjumping tech, and mapping ability. Between the 2 I've got a moderately remapped kit that works well for me. But I really want to upgrade the hardware. No going to happen. Not with Traktor anyway.
I can deal with the software limitations, but I can't play without a controller. Start mapping out new hardware from the major players and I'll probably come back.
I’m happy than N.I aren’t throwing the towel. I absolutely love the software and after 10 years of DJing I hate the idea of switching to other platforms.
I have a lot of DJ friends with remarks like “when are you going to use CDJs” to which I reply “never, I hate with a passion Pioneer’s software, their quirks and the sound of their FX”. I’m open tho with Prime stuff tho, they are the closest in terms of modus operandi to Traktor.
I mainly use a S4 MK3 with an X1 MK2, both with a little bit of a custom mapping.
I have to agree with the X1, it’s the most versatile piece of kit I ever had in my life.
Use it as an extension to my S4? Check
Use one or two with an external mixer so I won’t be that annoying DJ with a large footprint on a cramped booth? Check
Use it as an add-on for loops and FX with CDJs in HID? Check
I’m waiting to se if their beatgrid analysis is as spot-on when they’ll introduce flexible beatgrids
Compatibility with third party hardware is surely the biggest issue? I’ve been a Traktor user since 2011 and in recent years it’s become a major issue for me.
Agreed
Which is sad because in the early days, it was by far the most compatible.
I am honestly curious about this. Both Rekordbox and Serato seem to have made things very complicated recently in terms of which hardware unlocks which versions/features like DVS, forcing DJs to either take expensive subscriptions or expensive upgrades to enable, or buy a quite limited set of mixers or controllers. Ironically this is all the more true for the most expensive hardware, like e.g. the Pioneer DJM-V10 which in RB does not unlock DVS, neither does the 9000nsx2, (only DJM-750MK2 and a few other), and in Serato requires a DVS expansion pack or a paid upgrade. Forget about A&H which Serato is largely ignoring, and RB as well.
I wish engine Dj would buy traktor, I would love a native traktor on prime gear
That’s my dream too
I'm actually new to Traktor, but it is undeniably the best for scratching and beat juggling and when you need things moving fast to be very accurate. I've been using virtual DJ with a Numark scratch mixer and a reloop neon for almost a year and I'm very happy with that setup. Virtual DJ scratches quite nicely. But the fact that traktor just updated absolutely signs me over to it. It sounds way better in the scratching is Almost real. When I first found virtual DJ and realized how far and away better it is than Serato I never thought I'd find a better software. Traktor seems to be listening to the timecode at a much higher rate than the others
Great news, good on NI. Great to see they’re still invested with Traktor. I moved on, but still open to Traktor winning me back. My reasons for moving on was hardware integration, flex beatgrids, access limitations with hot cues & saved loops,(should be separate and not grouped together IMO) and just felt abandoned. Loved using the step sequencer in Traktor. So great to see they streamlined and enhanced it. I would have paid the subscription fee a few years back, instead of learning a different dj platform, but now I know two, so can’t be mad at that. 😎
I am a die hard trakor user. I have an x1 mk 2, z1, f1, and s2 mk 3. Thought about getting an s5 but also leaning towards a stand-alone deck. It’s good to see trakor pro isn’t dead. What I’ve been wanting from NI is for them to make a standalone controller themselves.
get the s8, you can't go wrong with it, def worth the money.
X1 and K2 are probably the best modular ones for Traktor. Also the F1, it can do a lot too.
I like the Kontrol D2s, but, no longer in production.
A pair of Xone k2 and a 92 or 96 mixer
FOR THE WIN
@@geraldgoodiii6993 More of a rotary fan myself, but the XONE: 96 is boss.
As much as I have enjoyed Traktor over the years, these days I even use DJay Pro on my iPhone more often, because it has DVS and elastic beatgrids. I really hope NI push the beatgrid development to first priority status, because that really kills them in a competitive field in my opinion. Honestly, if Algoriddim get cloud sharing of beatgrids working anytime soon so I can properly share libraries without third party tools, that would basically lock me in to them and ditch Traktor completely.
I’m a late comer to Traktor. After playing with the demo I fell in love with the workflow and audio quality. I nervously went down this route, not knowing where they were ultimately headed. This is a sigh of relief. The road map is a great idea, and Apple silicon and retina support will be welcome. I use DVS with a Xone 96 and 2 x X1 mk2’s. I wanted something a bit different. The X1 mk2’s are dope. Hard agree Mojaxx. Peace
As a Traktor user (with Denon 3700s) that switched to sc6000m stand alone I would love to see HID with the Denons and the X1 MK2 are so tight they are perfect. Traktor integration with Denons plus X1 for effects would be perfect.
Been a Traktor user since like 2009, when it still had yellow waveforms. I've had 2 S4's, and I just sold my cdj1000 mk3 in favor of the S4 9 years ago. the S4 still works like a charm, and mated to my old TTX turntables, my friends were amazed, at how the turntables would play digital media files off the laptop! and that was like 10-15 years ago. Traktor is a good product but the Pioneer and Serato alliance attracted many dj consumers all over the world. The S2 too, is built solid, compared to the Mixtrack, and the Pioneer DDJ SB, which is a little more plasticky for controllers during the last decade.
untouchable midi mapping? what about Virtual DJ with it's own scripting language?
Traktor is like that girlfriend who promised to change. You kept threatening to leave if she didn't, but there you were, again and again looking at the other girls wondering if your girl could change for the better. Fast forward to NOW when you have moved on, got a wife, kids, a whole damn family and here's your ex, NOT TELLING YOU SHE CHANGED... but she made an appointment for counseling and wants YOU to pay for it!?! Lol Babe, I'll always cherish the good times over the bad, but I've moved on! I wish you the best and you'll always have a place in my heart, but yeah!
@Phil Morse A bit much,bI know! But I wanted to put the situation on a human level. Us DJs take this stuff seriously you know 😆
Master!!!! :D
😂😂
For me it is more like the bad girlfriend; you try to leave, but keep coming back because the sex is too good. :p
Long term user, since version 1.2.7 , and a die-hard Traktor Pro user and I'm looking forwad to the updates. Yes, I subscribed. And for the record, I've tried Rekordbox, Serato DJ and even Denon, but I NI is home. I'm staying with Traktor 'til the wheels fall off.
There’s a lot of things I like about Traktor that serato doesn’t have and I was just recently thinking of moving to serato for the simple fact that they have stems, now that Traktor plans on having stems I don’t think I’ll make the move. I’ll just wait. Just hoping they drop an updated version of the z2, maybe a z3, idk something.
Long time Traktor user so excited to hear something from them. I don't know if Traktor is still interested in making mixers but with all the upgrades pioneer has made if Traktor made a mixer with paddles on it and banks for effects I'm all over that
..if traktor had a factory mappings for many pioneer controllers im sure many deejays would use traktor instead of rekordbox ....its so sad that we cant just plug and play traktor on pioneer controllers like djay pro ai....regards
What about new Dj mixer for us turntablist? I love my Z2.
I believe there will be no Zx in the future :(
i still use traktor with my komtrol s2 mk1. i bought it when it first came out and never stoped
to tell i did buy the s2 mk2 the z2 mixer and the s3 mk3 for traktor 3
I switched to Algoriddim DJay years ago and never looked back. I just keep adding exciting hardware to my setup.
Been Djing 24 years. Went from vinyl using SL 1200's and a citronic mixer to burning CD's and using Pioneer CDJ1000's MK1's and Pioneer DJM mixer, then around 2011, friend of mine got me onto Traktor and I bought a MacBook and the original S4 controller. Gigging suddenly became so much more portable and easy. I Started to miss the feel of a spinning platter though, 5 years ago I bought x2 Technics DZ1200's and a Traktor Z2 mixer which is what I still use today. I love the fact that these ancient original DZ1200 technics CDJ decks that were a complete flop and took technics out of business are now amazing scratch turntables when using DVS on the memory cards. Works amazing with the Z2 mixer, but my back hurts carrying all those in a flight case to gigs. I'd honestly thought Traktor had given up and NI saw their business more in Music production software and hardware. Flexible beat griding should be a walk in the park to design by a company of NI's standards, yet it's what we've all been missing for almost a decade. I can ride it with my DZ1200's like the old vinyl days, but I could never do that with the S4 controller, pitch was too small to get the incrementals rides and the jog wheel the same. I only stuck with Traktor because replacing the Z2 mixer would set me back massively and I love that thing. Traktors software FX are just so good. I have always been envious of seratos vertical music wave grid though. I'd love to see that introduced too. I just think overall NI's development when into music production where Serato new its place and stuck to producing DJ software and saw the advantages of licensing it out to third parties to create hardware like Rane and Pioneer whereas Traktor wants to keep venting in-house. Its a shame because if they really wanted to, NI have the software developers to destroy the competition. I should be a sertao DJ now, and if the Rane twelves were more affordable, I'd switch. Will probably buy them on ebay when the come down in price before NI updates traktor to where it should be...
No HID mode with Denon Prime players has made me shelve Traktor for now, but I loved it for the roughly ten years I used it.
I'll never understand why NI and Denon DJ haven't been working more closely together. They're both kind of the underdogs in their fields, but would make for an absolutely killer team.
@@Mojaxx Agreed!
Related, would really like you to do a follow up video on the SC6000s like you did with the 3000s, personally owning and using both I'd be really interested to hear your take on what the Denons do or don't do better the the club default (I will not call it standard).
@@inertiamonster That's coming soon!
Thank you for this really great very - encourages me to continue my long use of traktor pro. the subscription features are great and cheap if you compare to what Serato charges! Need to bear in mind that the full Traktor Pro licsense only costs 100 bucks and NI is very flexible with allowing license use on various computers (which I do with the whole NI product suite). Thumbs up for NI!
Big ups Mojaxx! Two things worth mentioning: There is a half off a year subscription TODAY (ending Sept 1). Also the Maximizer isn’t a brick wall limiter. The last two limiters in TRAKTOR were brick wall limiters but the maximizer is much more intelligent and won’t squash your transients like a brick wall limiter would.
Salute Endo! I learnt how to use the pattern player thanks to your video… ;)
I’ve heard the (non-Traktor) version of the the Ozone Maximiser referred to as a brick wall limiter in the past, so I guess that’s where I got that from. I still think it’s quite a useful descriptive term for those who aren’t too initiated in the production world, even if it’s not completely accurate.
@@Mojaxx awesome! From my understanding, that's one of the main differences between the Ozone Maximizer and the old Traktor limiters (Classic and Transparent). The old limiters (meaning the ones in the perpetual version right now) are brick wall limiters, whereas the Ozone Maximizer is much more intelligent and preserves the transients. If you set the threshold to 0 dB, then I think the Maximizer is a brick wall limiter, but if you lower the threshold, it starts to work its magic and even raises the RMS loudness. Don't quote me on that, but after reading a lot of information on it, that was my understanding on everything. Cheers!
I’m a beginner producer and started out on Traktor a year ago because I like the Stem and Remix decks. Elastic beat grids are SO NEEDED and I am stoked to see them working with Isotope for the Stems. I see Isotope in other NI products too, nice move! The pattern packs look dope and have so much potiential.
New traktor user!!!! im loving the old S4 MK1... couple that with the Maschine Jam... and you have alot of flexibility!!
Native instruments hardware is top of the line!!
Right after I sold my Kontrol S4. So long Traktor ... I got tired of waiting :-( But still, nice to see it's still moving up
I definitely agree about the X1 MK 2. I used to use that and a Z1 as my daily driver for weddings in barns with little to no space for the DJ to set up, and I'd tack on an F1 for corporate events that wanted a bunch of drum rolls and other sound effects.
They do seem to be hinting on socials that a new all-in-one is coming which would be epic if it rivaled the Prime 4 but was more premium
I'm sure NI will implement those features when they are good enough. The more I play with that drum machine the more I like it.
I love traktor. Been using it along time.
Not sure why no one is talking about this, but Traktor really could use better time stretching. While Serato has hands down the best time stretch algo on the market today, Traktor's compared to that is just utter trash. I'm really surprised it's not on the roadmap.
I couldnt agree more about Traktors key lock quite unusable warbled squeaky sounds, if a better keylock is in the subsription im in
Xone k2 mapped to my preference my number one controller with Traktor but still love using the X1
really nice to see that tractor is making progress... but monthly payments I find very doubtful. anyway you all have a wonderful evening 😇✌️
Don`t care. Been using Traktor since it came out. Not doing any subscription services but, I will buy a new Traktor version with vst support. Traktor should have been a vst the whole time.
Hallo … Yes … i love Traktor pro because Sync of 2 or 4 Tracks ist going perfekt 👌…. I Use Traktor with 2 Parts of X1 Mk2 and 2 of the Kontroler D2 with a 4 Chanel Mixer and the Soundcard Audio 10 …. Pioneer is tooooo expensive and at the Moment the Market is real Empty … w.a.f. …. Dear Chris from Germany …
I started my journey as a DJ with NI Traktor Pro; I've waited for Elastic Beatgrid for years! I love their Software/Hardwares.
It's funny that NI introduced the concepts of djing with Stems, but now NI will be playing catch up with "Live Stems Separation" built into Traktor Pro 3 to other DJ Companies! What a perfect time to raise the NI Kontrol S8, NI Kontol D2, etc.
, from the dead!
I guess I consider myself a former Traktor user. I still have my pro 3 license, but I’m just not using it so much anymore.
I did used to use it. It was great, for me, with DVS for example. I had previously used midi maps for my DB4 to perform entire sets right there in the mixer as the only hardware, and not needing to touch a keyboard.
But recently there has just been something about playing with 2-4 decks and a mixer, without a computer being involved.
Don’t get me wrong, I recently fired up Traktor and did both a 4 deck progressive house mix and a 4 deck techno mix using just my K2 and Xone 96. And I enjoyed them immensely.
But I guess im too lazy to keep 2 libraries, and too cheap to invest in a tool that will convert them. So I’ll likely stick with my XDJ’s and a Rekordbox library.
But I will say, beatgrids in Traktor are way tighter than in Rekordbox.
I cant wait for stems as long as thay are like vdj I will be happy I not long got an s8 and two d2s game changer
Nice one Mojaxx!!!
I wonder why they never figured out how to make smoother the movement of the waveform
Not a sniff of Stems ? That alone has given me a whole new world in mixing genres on Serato .
I just need video mixing and I’m back on Traktor!
All this add on should be free it’s just insane and please the elastic beatgrid top on the list NI , I would like playing some old funky music than I have please native instruments do the job please,every dj software have thus option since a long time ! Thanks Mojaxx
I love Traktor Pro, can’t wait for their new (modular 🤞🏻) Traktor Kontrol
i just tuned in whats it called ?
Any links for that?
NI teased for a new Traktor controller in a forum post several months ago, it was expected between July and August…
@@alessiorossi pls show the link or copy the statement
Stll looking for NI to support XDJ-XZ.
Serato just released their stem separation tech. It sounds fantastic, and I'd be interested if you believe the tech is there now. They also released it for Serato Lite, so I wonder if Traktor will change their mind about only offering it to Plus subscribers.
I just started using Traktor with a Denon X1850, Technics 1200s, and the MWM Phase. My first digital platform, your videos have been helpful! I would love to see better integration for MWM's Phase with Traktor! I love the Beatsource Link!
Still wish they'd make a dedicated Pioneer traktor controller...currently running a DDJ-SZ remapped but I'd love a REV7
Thanks for that great video Mojaxx! I too am a Traktor devotee and really pleased to hear that NI’s sound labs are active again. I use S4 mk3 and still love it! Before that S5, S4 Mk1&2. Flex beat grids is a must have for me being an open format DJ - glad to see it on the product roadmap. Not too thrilled about the subsc services though
I was always a Traktor fan, only changed because I got an xdj xz. I would love to see compatibly with the xz, would be cool to ad an x1 to use with channels 3 and 4. If this happened I would switch back to Traktor in a heartbeat!!
it's working perfect with xdj xz
@@MauriMoore thanks man, do you have to map it yourself? I’m hoping that NI themselves will release supported mapping for the xz. All the mappings that I have tried have not worked very well
@@darrentanner6245 DJ Estrela did the Tsi file , working perfect for me , not HID but good enought .
@@MauriMoore thanks!
I rock with a PX5 with two X1 MK2 Controllers. I have the S4 MK3 as well, and with my footprint and how I mix, Traktor works for me! Interested when the elastic beatgrids become available. BUT I would love to see a new 4 channel version of the Z2, that mixer was insane with the mapping you can do with it. I gave mine to my barber when I got my PX5!
Wow. Native Instruments are bringing all the stuff I want to Traktor. Flexible beat grids, live stems, pattern player, subscription, real limiter, improved browser... :)
You said it bro! Traktor is so powerfull! Give me a old version of Traktor from 2014 over the latest Serato software all day long! All it needs is Elastic Beat Grids and Quantised Hot Cues so we can trigger Hot Cues at 1/8 - 1/4 - 1/2 - 3/4 - 1/1 - 2/1 - 4/1 etc
I'm flabbergasted that compatibility with other DJ software isn't on the roadmap. How do you expect to gain your customers back when working with Rekordbox or Serato collections is still a pain in the butt?
my main reason why I will/can never change back.
Fully agreed
Wasn’t keen on the subscription at first but considering its cheap (esp at intro) I’m ok with it for the purposes of supporting future developments. I believe in the creative opportunities Traktor has over its competitors and want to see it continue to grow instead of fading into obscurity
I would even pay the double if I could just to see Tidal (or any other general music service) on the roadmap.
Denon gear has it, Serato Has it, Virtual DJ has it, djay pro has it. Pretty much any software but traktor has it.
For legal reasons who are too hard to specify, I really have to use something like Tidal since I work in a touristic zone and a lot of people come from a lot of places so, there's no easy way of playing all those songs needed without a streaming service.
I haven't used Traktor in years, but I still have the software just in case because I could grab practically any midi controller and sound card in a pinch. But just in case hasn't happened in a long time. I used to use it for simple gigs where I would take a really compact midi controller and m-audio sound card in a bag with my laptop.
Still only 8 slots for all of your cue points and saved loops, and no flexible beat grids, and nonexistent support (mappings) for new gear. They’ve even dropped talking about 4.0 altogether.
the X1 was way ahead of everything and is still a rockstar add on... but traktor on both the software and hardware side fell off so hard. The z2 was a monster and nothing more came of it... the s2/s4 and all the other controllers seem forgotten about. its sad :(
Still using my D2's. Bit on the big side. But it does make me not needing to look at my laptop all the time. That's why I keep on using them. Good news about the update and there future plans! 👌🏻
i love traktor🔥
Been a Traktor user for 4 years plus got a s4 mk3 and love it glad there putting more effort into it now! Wish they would do a pitch n time mode like serato also wanna see a z4 mixer and s8!
I agree with you 100% with Traktor X1 MK2 being a fantastic controller. I also have the S4 so I'm looking forward to making that work!
I Love Traktor. Always works, Never let me down. I wont be changing.
would be cool to have the customizable skins in traktor
This and to run traktor as a vst. It should have been a vst the whole time! So dumb.
@@MS-1 I dont think any of that is necessary, the reason traktor went down is very late adaptation of 64 bit windows, apart from that it always was great, plus apple making everyones live difficult with constant os updates breaking it all
Yeah I use Reaper`s rearoute to get Traktor`s audio in a track and, works fine as a workaround. Traktor with a turntable midi controller has zero latency.
Been waiting a long time to update my controller, thought NI would be by all this BS!
What happened to upgrades at least once a month?
Bye NI, Hello Pioneer 👋
Thank you for this video Mojaxx, I've been using Traktor for 8 years and I really love it. Elastic Beatgrids would definitely be a plus since I spin a lot of music that has live drummers, but it's still amazing software. I use an S4, I've thought about getting turntables but I'm really limited on space both in my live stream studio and most of my in person set ups.
Well I started on Traktor and moved on to Serato since it was missing some things that others were trying to teach me. I was thinking of coming back to Traktor as I like (and own) some of the NI hardware that lives in that ecosystem. Seeing this roadmap I gotta say thats killed off a lot of my desire to come back. The DJs I know are stoked about stems and use them as a good spice, AND Serato as well as RB don't hide them behind subs. Adding a new sub to get access on a feature that the bigger players offer straight out is a complete no go. That one thing along will keep Traktor as a zombie app imo.
Been a Traktor user since back when it was Stanton Final Scratch. Recently did some research and found out about Djay Pro AI and had to make the switch. Being able to play with a Ipad instead of a laptop is a game changer. PLus stems and flexible beatgrid. Probably won't go back to traktor unless they do some drastic changes
Your opinion on the stems separation has now changed since the Rane four came out 👍
Thanks mate. I agree with your opinion of the X1 Mk2. I got one and after a few goes with it I sold a lot of my other gear because the X1 is so good it made my other gear reduntant!
The X1 MK2 is truly my fav piece of hardware even tho I've framed it next to my Z1 above my DDJ FLX-4. I do miss and still love Traktor but, it just doesn't slap the same. Maybe worth the upgrade and give the new software a feel but I've since become a Rekordbox-er. Apart from festivals South African booths just don't cater to additional hardware much. It's easier to just bring headphones and 2 USBs than an entire DVS system + laptop stand + extension chord for a 1 hour set.
Always used Traktor for amateur small house party performances and a few underground raves. It was rad. But my controllers died. Than I had to make a choice. First tried a numark controller, which was really rad, but it worked with Serato, which I just really don't like. Then got a DDJ-400 and things are perfect. The Rekordbox software was already suprisingly good, but got even better, for free, and the controller is also really solid, for somebody of my level. Only the audio out is really lacking on that device. Still. Such a joy to play with.
Current setup is 2x Traktor D2s with a DJM 450. The stem separation interests me a bit, have purchased a few Stem tracks but most of them aren't complex enough to take advantage. Will stick with traktor until or unless throwing lots of $$ at stand alone gear is no biggie and just something fun to try. When I had a pioneer rekordbox controller the lag put me off, I think NI have the snappiest software when you rely on a laptop.
I'm in love with the pattern player. Syncing external drum machines is my thing but it's always been a bit of a faff. And this is just so easy to use. I've even dug out the djtt midi fighter twister and used it for the 4 FX units. There's some great mappings out there for that and it's just brilliant for adding some flare for live stuff. Add all FX units to two spare channels and you get loads of oomph. You are right, using on a separate channel is the way forward. Really looking forward to the additional content coming. I'm on the beta so they gave us 6 months pro for free but I'll be subscribing after that. I'm not sure I've got my head round the limiter tho. It defo keeps the levels tight, you can see that in the recording waveforms but I need to play with it more.... If you are doing things properly you shouldn't need a limiter.... But we all get carried away sometimes...and the idea of this one is it should beef up the sound a bit...but I don't think I've got it quite right yet. Think they need a better tutorial on how it works in depth.
Another thing to bear in mind with the maximiser is that depending on how you have your mixer setup it may not apply to the internal mix recorder. There's some notes about it on the NI community forum. I think it only works if you have it setup in internal mix recorder. It's always on the main output if enabled though.
Traktor + X1Mk2 Forever !
Hey Mo, I am using since many Years Traktor. tried rekordbox and Serato. but stick always to Traktor. because of the Sound, the steadyness and special the beatgridding analysis, which is still one of the best. I think tracker is taking now a lot steps forward. but in your Video you are using the Rane Seventy A track and a Traktor X1. and I have the exact same setup at home. why do you need to use for Traktor a X1, if you have a rane Seventy? why is there no official Support from traktor for midi Controller? this is for me the biggest gap. ... I try recently Djay Pro.... and with this I am quite happy.
I love the remix decks that is why I stick with traktor. I dont mind the subscription. Is either that or the death of traktor
Totally agree with the need for flexible beatgrids being a priority....they are so far behind
Flexible beatgrids are coming
Needs Touch Screen Support and 1080p Verticle Orientation!!!!!
Do You HEAR Me??
I would love to be able to flick (like a web page) through my song list and quickly get from A to Z
The verticle screen orientation should be easily implemented if you can just scale the top bar a 'little' more (it crops off off the right decks). I'll upgrade if this is added especially... Fuuukkkk!
TRAKTOR = FOREVER !!!
Jesus Christ. They STILL haven't got High DPI Browser or Flexible Beatgrids. I was asking for these features back in 2013. If these are priorities for them and it is 2022 I'm really not interested in going back to support them. Maybe ever again. The competition caught up in pretty much every single way and way more.
I have been waiting for this built in step-sequencer for so many years and now I have to renounce to 1 DECK and to 2 effect sections in order to use it : since I am playing Tech-House on 4 decks with a Xone96 and 2 x Traktor Kontrol X1 Mk2 (controlling with them 4 decks) and since I am using 4 FX Units with Single Panel Mode this amazing Step-Sequencer is a thing that I can't use, since you make me renounce to 1 deck in order to controller it and you make me renounce to 2 complete FX Units with Single Panel Mode, since I am using effects with parameters. Native Instruments when you bring out a new feature, don't force people to renounce to a thing like a DECK or 2 EFFECT UNITS that you created !
You should have been put the PATTERN PLAYER in the middle to a 5-Deck, since there is tha MODEL1, XONE96, DJM-V10, all mixer that have more than 4 channels and people using this kind of mixer wanna use the PATTERN PLAYER.
I use Traktor with my CDJ 350s. Been having an issue or two but still easy to use
Elastic Bestgrid and Tidal, Spotify, Deezer integration would be awesome!!! Traktor has been always the best DJ software...
Hey Mojaxx great video once again!!
I'm with Traktor my whole adult life since 2000 and been pioneering traktor in DJ booths since early 00's first midi mapped then long awaited original S4 and last 7 years I'm still with S8 although not really happy with development, still over the moon every time I lift the lid of the case and see it and perform with it. If I was a modern day DJ (I mean gen z and all that) I'd prefer and go for something way lighter like the Denon Prime Go but you might say that only goes the comfy way. I guess software loyalty is an actual thing 🤔
For me i am still think that the X1 MK1 is better than the MK2 why ! Well for one the MK2 lost the two browser knobs and now you have to use one , The decks are split into left and right which allows you to control either deck far better than one dial which you have to select which side to drop the track into ,Two the cue points show only 4 which you then have to select a button to get the other 4 the Mk1 shows all 8 up front ,Far better for the mixing that i do ,Great to see Traktor making improvements ,Let's hope they can delivery ,