@@Doctor-Fate You do realize if you took 100 people and tell them to state who she was in a single sentence some answers would be bound to be quite similar ,if not identical, right? There's only so many ways that can be said. If I was gonna do that I would've just copy pasted it between quotes and given a link, as I tend to do. Also, the way they put it is way better sounding than the way I did lol Edit: On a side note, kind of ironic that someone with the name "Doctor fate" had to go to wikipedia to look up Cassandra lol
Lol at the OP. If 100 mindless idiots had to say something some other ass said, some would sound similar. Yea, dumbasses quote dumbasses, because people are too dumb to create their own conclusions, in turn looking like bitches rather than people who think for themselves. In this case, its 405 idiots, but it's all the same.
Something to remember about Jim Sterling is that he's very much playing a character. He plays this smug self important arrogant narcissistic asshole, but I've met him in person and he was a really down to earth and nice guy.
@Kaboom Baby i mean i am a fan of jim from all the way back in the destructoid days, and his politics piss off chuds, since he is openly anti capitalist. and while most people can agree to disagree since he has a legitimate, evidence backed point of view, some people are pissed off by that. well that and his alleged defense of "censorship" (read he is ok with content being cut for sensibility reasons- again corporations do far worse and it is absurd to be pissed off that)
@Mario Mirabal, I'm openly capitalistic, but I'm not an idiot, I don't think that what these companies do is capitalism at all, it's pure exploitation, capitalism by definition is meant to increase both parties value, take the good old story about how capitalism should work, Bob is hungry, so Bob goes to Bart the baker to buy bread, Bob gives Bart some money, and Bart gives Bob a piece of bread, Both Bob and Bart are happy about this, because Bart earned a percentage of Bob's work which he can use to improve his life or business, meanwhile Bart helped Bob to improve his life via alleviating Bob's hunger. It's a win-win situation, that's how pure capitalism should be looked at. And yes, Jim's a bit of a right cunt sometimes, but everyone can't be a perfect human being, I for once don't brush my teeth, but I'm otherwise pretty normal, except for my belief that Death is indeed a good thing, and that all people who intentionally wants to exploit others should be granted Death in the most hasteful manner possible.
The only negative thing I remember of Jim was that he called that one Dead Or Alive game not getting a western release due to feminist outrage totally ok, and called the people that wanted it "entitled". My memory might just be fucking with me on some details though. Any other thing you guys remember, and can you guys confirm?
I mean he even addressed it before he started his persona. In his previous job as a games journalist he started to take note of just how much monetization and stuff companies were doing "External to the game itself" were affecting the game itself. No one was talking about it at the time and his bosses told him to just focus on the game itself, that pissed him right off given the impact he saw that external element was having and was going to have.
@@tenjenk Playing Maplestory for years(a korean MMO) with it's ''cubes'' that are basically micro transactions didn't suprise me when those came here, but more pissed a bit since it's not that great, specially for payed games.
Until one of them tried to drag his name through the dirt, or should I say courts? Also funny how the said company is called Digital Suicide. When Steam removed 'em because of suing customers, Steam Digital Seppuku'd their ass off the platform. LOL
@@tenshi7angel Digital Homicide. They barely even count as indie devs. And I'm not sure what you mean by that. The fact that Digital Homicide had a law suit against Jim for a while didn't change his videos in the slightest or stop him from preaching the shit that goes on in gaming. For a short time he wasn't allowed to discuss DH much due to the law suit but that's totally normal with anything that's dragged through the legal system. Once he won that he was free once more to drag their name as much as he wanted, and does, and he's never let up on AAA companies either.
@@tenshi7angel Well you started off your sentence with "Until one of them..." which implies Jim *was* dragging companies through the dirt *until one of them* took him to court. The use of "until" tends to mean something stopped happening at that point.
@@Spamhard Yeah he had to be silent about Digital Homicide while the case was in the process. Afterward, he resumed his savage review of the man who runs that crap show. lol
25:40 For those wondering which Cassandra being quoted here, this is from Wikipedia "Cassandra was cursed to utter prophecies that were true but that no one believed. The older and most common versions state that she was admired by the god Apollo, and he offered her the gift to see the future in order to win her heart. Cassandra agreed to be his lover in return to his gift, but after receiving the gift, she went back on her word and refused him. Apollo was angered that she lied to and deceived him, but since he couldn't take back a gift already given, he cursed her that though she would see the future accurately, nobody would ever believe her prophecies. Some of the later versions have her falling asleep in a temple, where snakes licked (or whispered in) her ears so that she could hear the future.[a]"
I think the funny part is that this is such an old video. I mean old in age, not that it is outdated. It’s actually pretty sad that it is still relevant.
Fun fact. From what I read, the self-parodying orc from Shadow of War was explicitly designed that way because the actual developers HATED the micro-transaction system they were forced to put in game.
Jim Sterling is weird but man his videos are on point...... sometimes you just gotta get past his wrestling openings lol... yes he is an amateur wrestler here in the US
LOL! I'm always going wtf an I watching when he puts on that wrestling show and the thing is, this whole thing started because the WWE (or something very close to it) was copyright striking him.
I get the feeling that the wrestling thing is that video game enthusiast needs a new hobby because the state of video games are is so depressing. The knowledge and skill he shows in his videos show how deep his love runs for video games but the industry has got him jaded from exploitative practices and greed.
The thing that turns a lot of people off Jim is the Character he plays in his video's. In reality, Jim is not a superego asshole and is actually very sincere and humble.
@@talonlan I thought he was unbearable initially but it's obvious the dude knows his stuff and makes excellent points. If you can put up with his strange persona his videos are very informative and well researched.
talonlan this comment deserves more likes. I think I’ve watched every “Jimquisition” he’s made, and he is an entertainer and likes playing the villain in his videos. I find it hilarious and endearing
15:57 - Oh, you don't know what Jim meant by that Digital Homicide clip? Ohh, the videos and story behind that debacle... I'll put it like this. He once reviewed a bad steam game called "Slaughtering Grounds" and called it an absolute failure. To make a long story short, the "developer" went insane... By trying to censor Jim, including copyright strikes, censoring the steam forums, videos attempting to insult Jim (but made us all laugh instead), threatened a bunch of steam users... well, it all ends up with Digital Homicide getting banned on Steam and failing to actually sue Jim Sterling - for 10 to 15 MILLION dollars. Here's one video to sum it up. ruclips.net/video/qS-LXvhy1Do/видео.html
Oh man. Now I gotta watch it again, it's hysterical how bumbling that guy was. And I say 'that guy', because I can't remember his actual name (having not yet rewatched the video), but it's really just the one dude successfully creating stress and a minor impedance (but little more) to Jim while essentially destroying himself. But yeah, I remember 'Jim Fucking Sterling Son', "Is it fair to say that slaughtering grounds was a failure... now?", that the guy couldn't add and was asking for an amount that was beyond reasonable. I remember he tried to get Steam to give them user info for negative reviews, and got himself thrown off of Steam as a result. But his name? Well... I guess he's just 'the guy who sued Jim Fucking Sterling Son' now.
I know that Digital Homicide was run by two brothers named James & Robert Romine. Maybe it was one of them speaking out? (Thanks TV Tropes for the helpful reminder, by the way. :P)
I've been a subscriber to Jim's content for quite a while. He might characterize himself as a crass individual, but he's been looking out for gamers and keeping them up to speed on the industry's predatory nature for years.
For sure, some of his little skits can be a little on the odd/crazy side (especially weird to try and explain when you're trying to introduce someone to his stuff), but the whole self-indulgent, arrogant act is part of his character. In real life he's modest, self-depricating and low on esteem. Makes sense to create an alter-ego for the camera if your own one doesn't really suit the content, many youtubers do it.
Jim doesn't always run with his Sterling persona in all his content either. When he appears as a guest on the co-optional podcast, he does away with the whole dress up with the suit and hat and just talks about the games themselves and not tearing the games industry a new asshole like he does every Monday. XD
@@yordlejay6820 Yeah, sort of! But that's kind of the point. He's a big fan of wrestling and it's sort of along the same vein as that, where an alter ego doesn't have to be a likeable person. The character he's aiming for is one who spews the truth and says what they think without beating around the bush or worried about offending some folk, so the arrogance and over the top persona plays into that.
I like to put it this way, if game developers think they are entitled to $60+ of my hard earned cash then I consider myself entitled to something half decent.
For people that don't follow Jim: the Digital Homicide, publisher/developer of Slaughtering Grounds sued Jim for millions of dollars over "defamation". Later tried suing customers on Steam for bad reviews. He got axed from Steam.
Yeah I was confused when I say that. Most people who watch asmongold are used to someone playing a character or making edgy jokes. Also didn't realise people still ate up all the stuff that the mainstream media says about jim.
As someone who has been following Jim for a few years now, I'm pretty sure they cringe because Jim's got a lot of unpopular opinions about the industry (opinions that have been consistently proven correct and have continuously predicted where the industry could worsen), he's criticized the ways in which women are portrayed alongside other commonly disliked topics about games (which nowadays immediately makes you an sjw because the stupid modern gaming community can't help but consider anything remotely left-leaning a threat, or an NPC act), and finally... Jim kinda loves to troll his detractors. He once got harassed by rabid fans for giving Breath of the Wild a 7/10 and nowadays he'll put it back up again whenever he can to playfully trigger the little whiners. I don't bring this up to agree or think that any of those reactions are justified (Quite frankly, you couldn't be more fucking childish or weak nowadays if your only means of expressing negative opinions about someone boil down to cringe and sjw accusations), but i'd like to make abit of clarity.
@@kyteehunter7787 16:00 says he doesn't know what Digital Homicide is. This is one of Jim's greatest accomplishments and his two videos documenting it are the most viewed on his channel. Asmo should definitely check them out. Also, why are you so aggressive and provocative?
ohhh don't mean to be aggressive, is the way things are, i don't care to much, it's just like the media say " just look where the real money are", if you are in the circle , you know whats going on. Don't say Asmongold doesn't know ..........he know exactly what is going on in the industry ;)
@@paarahful Its almost as if TB saw all this drama coming this holiday season and said nope fuck it cancer take the win because this shit is worse then you. Miss having conversations with that man
I mean, just recently we got a remastered Spyro. And guess what? No microtransactions, no seasonpasses, no gold silver or whatever the fuck editions, none of that bullshit. You just pay $60 once for an entire trilogy. And that has been selling super well, topping the sales charts in a lot of places.
they never did that, or more appropriately, mostly no 1 ever funded a game for the love of it. The people putting money into games dont give a rats ass if its games, or banana bread or fucking oil, they just want return of investment, they dont care. They didint care 20 years ago either, it was just simply a "golden age" because no 1 came up with optimized ways of making money off it.
That's literally never been the case. Every video game ever sold was created so that the people creating it could make a living. I'm not saying this gross shit is good for gaming, and we should be voting with our wallets and not rewarding these scumfucks, but trying to divorce business from gaming is just naiive. The pursuit of profit is the reason video games exist at all.
You should definitely watch Jim. Not only is he right very often, but he takes the time to research and develop his ideas. He isn't like some youtubers who just give their "stream of conciousness" opinion. He makes sure he's informed. Also, the "Batman Villain" (he would be happy that you called him that) persona is exactly that: a persona. He's actually a very humble and nice guy in person. People called him "a fat arrogant prick", so he said, "Arrogance? You ain't seen nothing yet! Thank God for me!".
Jim Sterling is pretty awesome. I first found his youtube stuff because of TotalBiscuit and his Podcast. and happily watch Jim because of the flashy over the top character he is on his show.
The matchmaking thing from Activision is basically what they already do on Destiny 2. I was level 20 max as I didn't have the DLC and was going against people that were lvl50 with weapons types that I don't even have access to, powers that I dont have access to and that are overall way more powerful than the gear I could ever get.
Its shitty but at the same time youre not really at an disadvantage. Having played at 20 against people of higher levels and gear I have yet to acquire i would still find myself on top of the board.
@@JarimannYT Yeah, I'd still find myself at the top of the board too, at least in normal matches. But if you try the ranked games, you get smashed by an entire team of lvl 50s while ur team maybe has one lvl 50.
I do agree that destiny 2 dlc is stupid in the way that they release multiple dlcs overpriced for little amount of content but you are complaining that you don't have access to the new stuff of a game because you're playing in its past is stupid cause most people who play the game and the crucible actually play the current game
I've been listening to Jim Sterling's podcast, The Jimquisiton, and that guy has alot more going on than we can see on his youtube. Guy seems like a very cool individual. Am I also to assume this is the very first time Asmongold has seen a Jim Sterling intro? he seemed thoroughly impressed with the opening.
@@koenwijnen4157 Is he now? And you are basing this on this video? The video that is railing against turning Players into payers? I mean gosh, if wanting to not turn children into gamblers is a SJW douche move.... Then I am fine with being on his side.
I'm not surprised honestly nor should anyone really they're exactly alike which is why they can be friends without meeting but if they disagreed on something expect shit
never been a fan of asmon to this day but i was readin the chat and saw that dude, trollin about " companies want money " and was so triggered because i hate those type of people. and asmon picks it up and tell this dude exactly what i was thinkin. so probs from me man.
I know this is an old video but i feel the need to say this: I'm a third year student learning a game development course and we're literally marked on the way of *implementing micro transactions* and *monetizing the game* and i think it's completely ridiculous and unfortunately a part of game culture now. Lets hope that someday the plague is removed
The problem with this is that many people employ a broad range of logical fallacies to attack Jim Sterling while ignoring the issue. He's been a huge proponent to covering the industry and the way they monetize their content but "oh it's Jim Sterling that guy is fat lolololol" or "he's an sjw" or some shit without realizing or caring that he's doing us a big favor by putting light on incredibly awful business practices. But no, lets be huge ass holes and talk shit because of the fact that a dude with an English heritage has an English accent instead - chat. Same thing with Asmongold. You share that reddit post Asmongold wrote in regards to his (lack of) enjoyment of the game without mentioned it was written by him and even staunch opposers would likely agree with his points or at least be significantly less hostile.
I agree. Outside of Jim’s channel, He’s a massive leftist. BUT, in his channel he actually spreads info we NEED to get these practices under control and stop them. I don’t mind Jim being a leftist by any means. It’s only when he starts to use them as ‘evidence’ that I’d stop watching him. As of now, I am subscribed to him until his content becomes political or politically influenced. So I’m with Jim Sterling as of now.
I watched him for years and was saying the stuff he does for years as well and I was all ways told it's ok you don't have to buy them, or it's ok there not that much better.
More his arrogance and childish way he describes somebody who disagrees with him. Not everything he says is wrong, quite often the opposite. But he holds his opinion as the highest one on the internet. That's his shtick, and it's an annoying and shitty one.
The1rust I think it’s important to draw a line with Jim, he has extremely good content when it comes to exposing greedy video game companies and shady business practice, but he SHOULD NOT be looked to for his opinions on politics or thoughts on how many genders there are
Jim is a voice of a reason in a world blinded by corporate greed. They dont even see themself as the bad guy in the scenario which is pretty ironic judging from that mad max analogy.
Etriuswimbleton agreed, everyone has their political views. It’s only when they shove their views down other’s throats that they should be frowned upon. Luckily Jim is shoving his politics into his vids, so we can still defend him.
@@Dr.Oofers You mean... Jim isn't shoving politics into his vids (usually), right? There was like 2 or so in the past year he did and I disliked them. I'm in the same boat, really. I really like the jimquisition, but watching Jim's twitter talk about politics makes me roll my eyes sometimes.
@dakky 13 So what insider knowledge do you have about the game industry? Oh you went to gamestop and heard about a new release next week. intriguing. Im not sure if your dumb as fuck or just trolling. Prolly just dumb, Ive been a gamer for 30 years and met ALOT of uninformed crybabies who get salty about facts they don't like to hear.
He wasn't against "game journalists" and their unethical behavior until they attacked him all of the sudden. 28:55 Yes they should be watchdogs and Yes game developers do that, but our dear Jim here thought that the accusation was just a smoke screen to attack women - until he is the target by Gamasutra of all places - the irony.
Ssethzeentach and Mandalore gaming are really great content-makers too Yes they're games reviewers but they mainly cover underground indie and oldass forgotten consumer-friendly gems you can get for dirt-cheap
Is this why they sometimes hide the price on websites and you have to click to "show the price"? Because they're charging different amounts for the same product based on what information they have on you?
I have been saying this for ages that game companies will match you with players who have spent money on purpose with players who are new and barely spent money so you will want to spend the money. I also have a feeling that they make you lag on purpose. For some fps games they give invisible aimbots to streamers so reg players will be like omg if i play more i can be as good as xstreamer.
Humans are as good at something as hours they have put into it. As a broad general rule, ignoring the effects of talent/aging etc. So the streamer is not using an aimbot, it's simply the hours they put in.
The ironic part: He's playing World of Warcraft...which still requires a subscription fee to play live content. You've been a payer for a long time, my friend. Though Blizzard hasn't been that upfront and scheming with their greedy practices...yet. Old video (last year), but goddamnit it's still relevant.
subscriptions and microtransactions arent the same. nobody is mad that they have to pay for wow, the wow community is mad that the cash store was introduces.
22:58 I think Jim meant to say "games as service", not "gamer service". As in, games are not a product you buy once and can use as you wish, but something that can be used to repeatedly draw payments from customers, like a service.
Point taken, but i think if they joined an indie group, they could change their ways. They only do what theyre told, or they face instant replacement. @@honeybadgermaldog7545 "Add loot boxes or your fired" its a hellish predicament.
They have the choice to do their own thing and they do not. One path is inherently more risky but more rewarding while the other is safer but filled with drudgery. That is why "they sold out" is appropriate.
@@paulmiddleton7168 "Add loot boxes or your fired" its a hellish predicament. It's not, really. When money trumps your morals and ethics, you're part of the problem.
These megacorps that say "everyone does it" when their morality is called in to question, are the same ones who condemn people who say "everyone does it" when the morality of piracy is brought in to question.
While he is late to this party, as am I with this reply, I think it is a good reminder to keep us aware of this issue and keep the party going, it is happening in mainstream gaming, it is confirmed (through released patents) EA's FIFA uses dynamic pricing though, one you won't notice, since it's dynamic pricing in the form of outcome not the actual purchase price. Plus all sorts of big data gathering is being done all over the (and many other) industry(s), many for good uses but also many for bad manipulative uses. The solution is simple, they listen only to your wallet, so don't give them a sound.
Hey Az, just 19:20 in and wanted to mention the secondary currencies are not there just for a disconnect but also they can be offered ingame as a reward as a small amount, and there is no way they would offer real $$$ reward for in game actions no matter how small, because some people somewhere would farm it, a relevant example would be if wow tokens could be changed to real money.
250 bucks is nothing. there are app games that have 499 single "micro transactions" for biweekly events. they wouldnt offer them if someone wasnt buying them
29:16 that's exactly what's happening and has been happening from a while. There are MASSIVE quantities of irrefutably proven claims where 'gaming journalists' are embargoed by companies (and subsequently embargoed by EVERY large company as part of a shared industry-wide blacklist) resulting from critical reviews of games pre-release. In other words, if you get a free release copy to review you either write something good or the company makes sure you don't write anything ever again (early).
Nah, those aren't normies. They are just stupid modern gamers. You know, the ones that consider anything remotely left-leaning a threat, will stick up for companies forever until the company makes a mistake so big you'd be blind not to see it (referencing the blizzard's fans that thought loot boxes weren't "so bad" or "just cosmetic"), and will cannibalize each other and many other communities out of spite.
yeah whatever happened with agree to disagree? maybe some proper counterarguments before you start calling people a commie? lol i don't agree with some of his strong social justice opinions on things, but i still love the guy because of his awesome rants and delivery, and share his position on predatory business practices. and he helps getting shit done too, the way i see it, he's a real asset to the betterment of the games industry.
@@demsterclippy4252 what the fuck are you talking about? Most (if not all) of these money grabber publishers are left leaning. You are talking out of your ass here, most of these greedy sellout companies went full SJW in the past couple years FYI. People who diss Jim are most likely children who have no relevant life experience because they are spoonfed and they have no actual sense of the world around them (or you could call it reality), it has nothing to do with left or right leaning, even if you MUST bring politics into this atleast do it right...children in chat dissing Jim who disses left-leaning companies make the children in chat hating on "anything thats left-leaning" u wot m8?
I don't really agree with some of Jim's political views, but no one can deny that he's doing a hell of a lot of good for gaming. The guy is brilliant and we need more people like him in the world.
Not only are secondary currencies a disconnect between the product and real money, but they can also set it up so that the quantities of secondary currency you have to purchase never match up with the cost to buy anything; you'll always have some left over as a slight nudge to spend more to get your "money's worth".
Gamers are entitled and think they deserve good games. Please tell me that was sarcasm... would you say that of movie buffs? Avid readers? People who eat food?
@@Relptica__ I don't know, that's Mcconnell, right? I think he is serious. I don't want to be mean but I've watched other videos with his commentary and the dude just isn't all that bright.
@@cloverjoker I have no idea if he's being serious but I've just assumed at this point he's basically there to stir the pot. Any time I've seen Asmon ask for his opinion he's either given incredibly ill-informed, knee-jerk answers, or failed to give any answer at all as though he's incapable of creating his own personal opinions.
16:50 It's not exactly a "chicken and egg" thing. People don't respect mobile games, because the complexity of the games has to be dumbed down by necessity, by virtue of the limitation of control a player can have in the medium. It's irrational to hate on mobile games, if they were just another platform for PC games, because then there wouldn't be any distinction between them, but in fact there is, the complexity. The issue about attitude of developers towards players, and the reaction vise versa inflamed from that is a secondary thing, that also spawned after the fact. The problem here is, the attitude of gamers towards mobile is passive, the alienation of developers towards gamers is hostile.
and there is also a reason why i dont want to ever get a alexa or something of the like, because it is always listening. unless you completely remove any power source, or provider.
There are actually a few good mobile games that don't prey upon players, but none of those are from the West. Sdorica, Azur Lane, and Honkai Impact 3rd are subscribed of the best examples. Sdorica pushes absolutely nothing, Azur Lane provides so much of their resources for free that you don't ever need to pay for anything, other than cosmetics of you want. And HI3 took warframes approach where everything can easily be earned.
I love Jim Sterling, been following him for years and am a Patron. I understand that his asshole character that he portrays rubs people the wrong way, he is playing the part of a Heel, but there is no greater advocate for consumers then Jim Fucking Sterling Son. Thank God for Jim.
It's kind of interesting to watch someone just discovering Jim Sterling after I've been viewing him for several years. The guy makes a lot of good points and the persona's he uses in his videos really keep me entertained while I'm absorbing the information he's offering. Much of his older Jimquisitions are still very relevant today so they're definitely worth a look into. And to those wondering why Asmongold hasn't seen this guy before; come on, he's still relatively small with under a million subs. Though honestly I feel he should have a lot more.
The buying stuff with coins so you don't associate it with money thing is the same thing Vegas does with chips at the tables. Long proven that you'll spend more if you disassociate it with money
Also, the fact that you don't actually pay money for Items allows them to avoid having a refund system, because you bought the coins, and as you don't have them anymore you can't get your money back
i dont really think players think that they are entiteld to good games, i guess players just want a good game since a couple years, every game is pre pre pre alpha, full of loot boxes or any other pay system, too many expansions to be paid for and just generally buggy and underdeveloped games with good ideas behind them.
@@joshheinink no ofc not but times have changed, investors were investors back then and now the customers are the investors even buying unfinished product and giving the publishers no reason to further improve a game or even finish it, theres a lot of examples, let me just drop no mans sky, dayz, mavericks, star citizen and a couple more titles. i understand why people are frustrated, because they get promised so much but get so little-nothing in return
I think I've heard the argument "everyone's doing it" somewhere else before... I'm having a difficult time remembering what other industries said that as well. It's like my memory has gone up in smoke.
@Hesus wat? I made this comment to say that even tho McConnell understand taxation is theft he doesn't realize what this country's foundation was we didn't have income taxes we didn't have a lot of things personally I am saying that the federal or BIG government is always bad so that is why(and I know it will never happen) if we banned all personal federal taxes we would have a better time at removing corruption because at that point there is no money for them to make off us
Social institutes and services that are available via government are what makes people have less natural selection in our daily life, so people who weren't lucky with what nature gave to them or with their parents have more chance to live tolerably. Of course, there is a bad side of this (welfare leeches, corruption) but it's better than not having this. Can't imagine how fun it might be to live in the US, being on the borderline poverty situation and accidentally break the leg.
Cassandra was the Oracle from Greek mythology that would give prophecies that would be ignored and then lead to ruin. She was meant to represent how people would ignore the warning signs of their own hubris.
Currency in video games serves both to disconnect you from your money, but also to force you buy fixed amounts of currency for stuff that never costs the exact amount of currency that you bought, which forces you to spend money for leftover currency that you'll never use. Fking brilliant.
sad part is gamerbro's are turning to fascism instead of something like marxism. From my experience they seem to love trump, a guy who deregulating/giving tax cuts to the top 1%
@oneslimeboy rimuru tempest the biggest brain takes of the century. Socialism is when the workers collectively own the means of production, does that sound like the soviet union to you? No it wasnt, it was an authoritarian regime where the government controls the means of production. Just like fascism, this is why people say socialism hasnt been tried because it hasnt. When people advocate for worker coops they arent advocating for stalinism, they just want capital to be democratically owned instead of being owned by a capitalist
@oneslimeboy rimuru tempest capitalism was at one point in the same stage, mercantilism was an utter failure as it was a warped version of what we now know as capitalism. Many socialized programs work tremendously like universal healthcare much like how some aspects of mercantilism worked seeing as it was part of what would be modern day capitalism
@@DATskorge exactly, nothin like working all day all year at 9$ an hour to make me feel like an individual. fuck workers rights and finding meaning in life when you can keep bezos at 150 billion in net worth!!!!!
Scientific Revenue actually seems a fair and good idea. Not sure if in practice it can still be, because I suspect that an entry level player would pay more than an established player which already has been profiled and is far more predictable. But other variables like: location, type of phone, wallet spend... could make way to adjusted prices for people who are less fortunate than others, instead of having the same prices for low-class, middle-class, high-class.
I never turn on Asmongold's chats because he has so many haHAA kids it is disgusting. Instead of banning trihard, try banning haHAA and see how many people can last. Edit: Any form of cringe emote.
I have noticed he also doesn't seem to do a "Sub Only" chat when he goes live, and I think that causes more spam as well. I follow Day9 and he goes into that mode when he goes live, but I also find his chatroom to be more reasonable as well.
I personally don't use or read Twitch chat,I just have the stream on Fullscreen. Twitch chat is too edgy for me,everyone trying to act like the worst imaginable way. Like @I'm Out said, it's a bad place to be and thankfully we have the decision to close it up.
Cassandra is a figure from greek mythology, that was cursed to be able to see into the future but nobody would ever believer her. She was cursed to know the horrible fate people would have, but she was powerless to ever change them
Gamers are entitled to good games? So we should be playing bad games to be less entitled? Has anyone ever called out publishers as being entitled to free money?
"he looks like a batman villain" yeah, that actually does a decent job of describing his persona. He is purposely as outspoken and self-congratulatory as possible for that reason
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If I remember right Cassandra was a character from greek mythology who was cursed to be able to see the future but no one would ever believe her.
Welp he was pretty dead on
it's funny cause that sentence is like 90% the one that's on wikipedia
@@Doctor-Fate You do realize if you took 100 people and tell them to state who she was in a single sentence some answers would be bound to be quite similar ,if not identical, right? There's only so many ways that can be said.
If I was gonna do that I would've just copy pasted it between quotes and given a link, as I tend to do. Also, the way they put it is way better sounding than the way I did lol
Edit: On a side note, kind of ironic that someone with the name "Doctor fate" had to go to wikipedia to look up Cassandra lol
@@ragnar97 oh shit dat edit good
Lol at the OP. If 100 mindless idiots had to say something some other ass said, some would sound similar. Yea, dumbasses quote dumbasses, because people are too dumb to create their own conclusions, in turn looking like bitches rather than people who think for themselves. In this case, its 405 idiots, but it's all the same.
Something to remember about Jim Sterling is that he's very much playing a character. He plays this smug self important arrogant narcissistic asshole, but I've met him in person and he was a really down to earth and nice guy.
@@cellsec7703 nah, he's old enough to remember the UK before Thatcher.
@Kaboom Baby i mean i am a fan of jim from all the way back in the destructoid days, and his politics piss off chuds, since he is openly anti capitalist. and while most people can agree to disagree since he has a legitimate, evidence backed point of view, some people are pissed off by that. well that and his alleged defense of "censorship" (read he is ok with content being cut for sensibility reasons- again corporations do far worse and it is absurd to be pissed off that)
@Mario Mirabal, I'm openly capitalistic, but I'm not an idiot, I don't think that what these companies do is capitalism at all, it's pure exploitation, capitalism by definition is meant to increase both parties value, take the good old story about how capitalism should work, Bob is hungry, so Bob goes to Bart the baker to buy bread, Bob gives Bart some money, and Bart gives Bob a piece of bread, Both Bob and Bart are happy about this, because Bart earned a percentage of Bob's work which he can use to improve his life or business, meanwhile Bart helped Bob to improve his life via alleviating Bob's hunger.
It's a win-win situation, that's how pure capitalism should be looked at.
And yes, Jim's a bit of a right cunt sometimes, but everyone can't be a perfect human being, I for once don't brush my teeth, but I'm otherwise pretty normal, except for my belief that Death is indeed a good thing, and that all people who intentionally wants to exploit others should be granted Death in the most hasteful manner possible.
@@livedandletdie let's agree to disagree.
The only negative thing I remember of Jim was that he called that one Dead Or Alive game not getting a western release due to feminist outrage totally ok, and called the people that wanted it "entitled". My memory might just be fucking with me on some details though.
Any other thing you guys remember, and can you guys confirm?
Jim has been saying this for years. Late to the party but better late than never. Yes get the word out.
I mean he even addressed it before he started his persona. In his previous job as a games journalist he started to take note of just how much monetization and stuff companies were doing "External to the game itself" were affecting the game itself. No one was talking about it at the time and his bosses told him to just focus on the game itself, that pissed him right off given the impact he saw that external element was having and was going to have.
@@tenjenk Playing Maplestory for years(a korean MMO) with it's ''cubes'' that are basically micro transactions didn't suprise me when those came here, but more pissed a bit since it's not that great, specially for payed games.
Also along with like BigfryTV
Watch more of Jim's videos. He's been preaching this stuff and dragging companies through the dirt for years.
Until one of them tried to drag his name through the dirt, or should I say courts? Also funny how the said company is called Digital Suicide. When Steam removed 'em because of suing customers, Steam Digital Seppuku'd their ass off the platform. LOL
@@tenshi7angel Digital Homicide. They barely even count as indie devs. And I'm not sure what you mean by that. The fact that Digital Homicide had a law suit against Jim for a while didn't change his videos in the slightest or stop him from preaching the shit that goes on in gaming. For a short time he wasn't allowed to discuss DH much due to the law suit but that's totally normal with anything that's dragged through the legal system. Once he won that he was free once more to drag their name as much as he wanted, and does, and he's never let up on AAA companies either.
@@Spamhard Yeah you're not sure what I mean by anything.
@@tenshi7angel Well you started off your sentence with "Until one of them..." which implies Jim *was* dragging companies through the dirt *until one of them* took him to court. The use of "until" tends to mean something stopped happening at that point.
@@Spamhard Yeah he had to be silent about Digital Homicide while the case was in the process. Afterward, he resumed his savage review of the man who runs that crap show. lol
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For those wondering which Cassandra being quoted here, this is from Wikipedia
"Cassandra was cursed to utter prophecies that were true but that no one believed. The older and most common versions state that she was admired by the god Apollo, and he offered her the gift to see the future in order to win her heart. Cassandra agreed to be his lover in return to his gift, but after receiving the gift, she went back on her word and refused him. Apollo was angered that she lied to and deceived him, but since he couldn't take back a gift already given, he cursed her that though she would see the future accurately, nobody would ever believe her prophecies.
Some of the later versions have her falling asleep in a temple, where snakes licked (or whispered in) her ears so that she could hear the future.[a]"
Thanks, dude. Learned something new :D
The Greek God equivalent to buying drinks for a girl at a bar.
I think the funny part is that this is such an old video. I mean old in age, not that it is outdated. It’s actually pretty sad that it is still relevant.
*More relevant than ever. :(
Watch Perfect Pasta Sauce and realize how relevant that one still is
Fun fact. From what I read, the self-parodying orc from Shadow of War was explicitly designed that way because the actual developers HATED the micro-transaction system they were forced to put in game.
Source?
@@300IQPrower we don't need sources... didn't you read the comment? he read it somewhere! what more proof do you need?
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 - I'm the source, i "went there" in person and heard it live. You can trust me.
@@theguywhowentthere3346 i trust you, take me daddy
this is an incredibly believable anecdote, which i will chose to believe until it is disproven or more likely proven
Jim Sterling is weird but man his videos are on point...... sometimes you just gotta get past his wrestling openings lol... yes he is an amateur wrestler here in the US
LOL! I'm always going wtf an I watching when he puts on that wrestling show and the thing is, this whole thing started because the WWE (or something very close to it) was copyright striking him.
I get the feeling that the wrestling thing is that video game enthusiast needs a new hobby because the state of video games are is so depressing. The knowledge and skill he shows in his videos show how deep his love runs for video games but the industry has got him jaded from exploitative practices and greed.
The thing that turns a lot of people off Jim is the Character he plays in his video's. In reality, Jim is not a superego asshole and is actually very sincere and humble.
@@talonlan I thought he was unbearable initially but it's obvious the dude knows his stuff and makes excellent points. If you can put up with his strange persona his videos are very informative and well researched.
talonlan this comment deserves more likes. I think I’ve watched every “Jimquisition” he’s made, and he is an entertainer and likes playing the villain in his videos. I find it hilarious and endearing
15:57 - Oh, you don't know what Jim meant by that Digital Homicide clip? Ohh, the videos and story behind that debacle...
I'll put it like this. He once reviewed a bad steam game called "Slaughtering Grounds" and called it an absolute failure. To make a long story short, the "developer" went insane...
By trying to censor Jim, including copyright strikes, censoring the steam forums, videos attempting to insult Jim (but made us all laugh instead), threatened a bunch of steam users... well, it all ends up with Digital Homicide getting banned on Steam and failing to actually sue Jim Sterling - for 10 to 15 MILLION dollars. Here's one video to sum it up.
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Oh man. Now I gotta watch it again, it's hysterical how bumbling that guy was. And I say 'that guy', because I can't remember his actual name (having not yet rewatched the video), but it's really just the one dude successfully creating stress and a minor impedance (but little more) to Jim while essentially destroying himself. But yeah, I remember 'Jim Fucking Sterling Son', "Is it fair to say that slaughtering grounds was a failure... now?", that the guy couldn't add and was asking for an amount that was beyond reasonable. I remember he tried to get Steam to give them user info for negative reviews, and got himself thrown off of Steam as a result. But his name? Well... I guess he's just 'the guy who sued Jim Fucking Sterling Son' now.
Jim fucking Sterling son
I never thought I would feel smart for having extensive knowledge of Jim Sterling Lore. Oh how wrong I was. Thank god for Jim
I know that Digital Homicide was run by two brothers named James & Robert Romine. Maybe it was one of them speaking out? (Thanks TV Tropes for the helpful reminder, by the way. :P)
I hope @Asmongold actually sees this
I've been a subscriber to Jim's content for quite a while. He might characterize himself as a crass individual, but he's been looking out for gamers and keeping them up to speed on the industry's predatory nature for years.
"Crass"
Yeah, the guy with the giant purple dildo hates female sexuality depicted in games. I hope you aren't showing too much knee.
For sure, some of his little skits can be a little on the odd/crazy side (especially weird to try and explain when you're trying to introduce someone to his stuff), but the whole self-indulgent, arrogant act is part of his character. In real life he's modest, self-depricating and low on esteem. Makes sense to create an alter-ego for the camera if your own one doesn't really suit the content, many youtubers do it.
Jim doesn't always run with his Sterling persona in all his content either. When he appears as a guest on the co-optional podcast, he does away with the whole dress up with the suit and hat and just talks about the games themselves and not tearing the games industry a new asshole like he does every Monday. XD
@@Spamhard So his alter ego makes him less likeable as a person?
@@yordlejay6820 Yeah, sort of! But that's kind of the point. He's a big fan of wrestling and it's sort of along the same vein as that, where an alter ego doesn't have to be a likeable person. The character he's aiming for is one who spews the truth and says what they think without beating around the bush or worried about offending some folk, so the arrogance and over the top persona plays into that.
One of Jims best episodes, the orc merchant almost made me fall off my chair when i saw it the first time
@@HiddenStr3ngth Oh the rubbing the hands together thing was the most hilarious "pot calling the kettle black" moment. xD
I like to put it this way, if game developers think they are entitled to $60+ of my hard earned cash then I consider myself entitled to something half decent.
Me in Brazil.
R$ 325,99 for the New assassin's Creed.
$1= R$ 5,65.
i love how the sentence 'instead of boars, its credit cards' made sense. what a time to be alive.
For people that don't follow Jim: the Digital Homicide, publisher/developer of Slaughtering Grounds sued Jim for millions of dollars over "defamation". Later tried suing customers on Steam for bad reviews. He got axed from Steam.
not to mention that one company he outed who kept making the same series of shitty games and releasing them on steam under different names.
@@tenjenk that was Digital Homicide lol
Thank God for Jim Sterling.
Jim Fucking Sterling, son.
@@Just_Pele An SJW?! Oh, the humanity!
@ED2 09 Don't sign your posts
I hate all of those social rejects in chat who cringe at everything and spam haHAA
absolutely agree
Yeah I was confused when I say that. Most people who watch asmongold are used to someone playing a character or making edgy jokes. Also didn't realise people still ate up all the stuff that the mainstream media says about jim.
fucking same dude
Literally cringing rn because I live under a rock and any kind of social interaction or just seeing a person speak makes me cringe haHAA
As someone who has been following Jim for a few years now, I'm pretty sure they cringe because Jim's got a lot of unpopular opinions about the industry (opinions that have been consistently proven correct and have continuously predicted where the industry could worsen), he's criticized the ways in which women are portrayed alongside other commonly disliked topics about games (which nowadays immediately makes you an sjw because the stupid modern gaming community can't help but consider anything remotely left-leaning a threat, or an NPC act), and finally... Jim kinda loves to troll his detractors. He once got harassed by rabid fans for giving Breath of the Wild a 7/10 and nowadays he'll put it back up again whenever he can to playfully trigger the little whiners. I don't bring this up to agree or think that any of those reactions are justified (Quite frankly, you couldn't be more fucking childish or weak nowadays if your only means of expressing negative opinions about someone boil down to cringe and sjw accusations), but i'd like to make abit of clarity.
lol has Asmongold been living under a rock, he should watch all Jim's videos' to get upto speed.
@@kyteehunter7787 16:00 says he doesn't know what Digital Homicide is. This is one of Jim's greatest accomplishments and his two videos documenting it are the most viewed on his channel. Asmo should definitely check them out. Also, why are you so aggressive and provocative?
ohhh don't mean to be aggressive, is the way things are, i don't care to much, it's just like the media say " just look where the real money are", if you are in the circle , you know whats going on. Don't say Asmongold doesn't know ..........he know exactly what is going on in the industry ;)
most people live under rocks and just consume, when TB died I was shocked everyone around me in RL and online was like who?
@@paarahful Its almost as if TB saw all this drama coming this holiday season and said nope fuck it cancer take the win because this shit is worse then you.
Miss having conversations with that man
No he shouldn't sterling is a scumbag who condones doxing.
remember when people made games for the love of playing it. and those games were successful.
I mean, just recently we got a remastered Spyro. And guess what? No microtransactions, no seasonpasses, no gold silver or whatever the fuck editions, none of that bullshit. You just pay $60 once for an entire trilogy. And that has been selling super well, topping the sales charts in a lot of places.
Pepperidge farm remembers
they never did that, or more appropriately, mostly no 1 ever funded a game for the love of it. The people putting money into games dont give a rats ass if its games, or banana bread or fucking oil, they just want return of investment, they dont care. They didint care 20 years ago either, it was just simply a "golden age" because no 1 came up with optimized ways of making money off it.
That's literally never been the case. Every video game ever sold was created so that the people creating it could make a living. I'm not saying this gross shit is good for gaming, and we should be voting with our wallets and not rewarding these scumfucks, but trying to divorce business from gaming is just naiive. The pursuit of profit is the reason video games exist at all.
Kefka Palazzo Remember Modern Warfare remastered, they can always patch in the micro transactions later, just like Black Ops 3.
I'd love to see this guy react to Jim's video discussing the time that Digital Homicide tried suing him for $10 million!
Time to break the popcorn out once more.
You should definitely watch Jim. Not only is he right very often, but he takes the time to research and develop his ideas. He isn't like some youtubers who just give their "stream of conciousness" opinion. He makes sure he's informed. Also, the "Batman Villain" (he would be happy that you called him that) persona is exactly that: a persona. He's actually a very humble and nice guy in person. People called him "a fat arrogant prick", so he said, "Arrogance? You ain't seen nothing yet! Thank God for me!".
He's a Killzone villain.
17:56
Those are all Clash of Clans clones.
hence the reference.
22:45 - Enough proof for Asmongold's audience to trust in Jim Sterling.
Jim Sterling is pretty awesome. I first found his youtube stuff because of TotalBiscuit and his Podcast. and happily watch Jim because of the flashy over the top character he is on his show.
The matchmaking thing from Activision is basically what they already do on Destiny 2. I was level 20 max as I didn't have the DLC and was going against people that were lvl50 with weapons types that I don't even have access to, powers that I dont have access to and that are overall way more powerful than the gear I could ever get.
Its shitty but at the same time youre not really at an disadvantage. Having played at 20 against people of higher levels and gear I have yet to acquire i would still find myself on top of the board.
@@JarimannYT Yeah, I'd still find myself at the top of the board too, at least in normal matches. But if you try the ranked games, you get smashed by an entire team of lvl 50s while ur team maybe has one lvl 50.
They do this in Call of duty as well im prestige 8 on B04 and i go against people who just got the game that day or like 2 days ago
So basically you dont play the game to its fullest potential and expect to get the same results as someone who does play it to its fullest potential
I do agree that destiny 2 dlc is stupid in the way that they release multiple dlcs overpriced for little amount of content but you are complaining that you don't have access to the new stuff of a game because you're playing in its past is stupid cause most people who play the game and the crucible actually play the current game
Of course Asmongold would like Jim Sterling, their personas are a match made in heaven
I've been listening to Jim Sterling's podcast, The Jimquisiton, and that guy has alot more going on than we can see on his youtube.
Guy seems like a very cool individual.
Am I also to assume this is the very first time Asmongold has seen a Jim Sterling intro? he seemed thoroughly impressed with the opening.
@@nhagan001 Jim sterling is a massive SJW douche lmfao. He always takes the political correct bullshit route. Hes a pos.
@@koenwijnen4157 Is he now?
And you are basing this on this video? The video that is railing against turning Players into payers?
I mean gosh, if wanting to not turn children into gamblers is a SJW douche move.... Then I am fine with being on his side.
@@koenwijnen4157 i dont think you have seen very much of his content, and if you have it makes your statement even more stupid.
I'm not surprised honestly nor should anyone really they're exactly alike which is why they can be friends without meeting but if they disagreed on something expect shit
never been a fan of asmon to this day but i was readin the chat and saw that dude, trollin about " companies want money " and was so triggered because i hate those type of people. and asmon picks it up and tell this dude exactly what i was thinkin. so probs from me man.
Digital Homicide is the asset flipper who tried to sue Jim Sterling and lost.
Saw another comment and im so glad to hear they lost lol
Im so amazed You didn't know about the Scientific Revenue OR Jim Sterling!
Press F to pay respects for tech_ssbm
Oh who am I kidding he doesn't even deserve respects
I know this is an old video but i feel the need to say this: I'm a third year student learning a game development course and we're literally marked on the way of *implementing micro transactions* and *monetizing the game* and i think it's completely ridiculous and unfortunately a part of game culture now. Lets hope that someday the plague is removed
Cut the roots.
END EA.
"You can lose or pay twenty dollars", sounds like Hearthstone in a nutshell.
The problem with this is that many people employ a broad range of logical fallacies to attack Jim Sterling while ignoring the issue. He's been a huge proponent to covering the industry and the way they monetize their content but "oh it's Jim Sterling that guy is fat lolololol" or "he's an sjw" or some shit without realizing or caring that he's doing us a big favor by putting light on incredibly awful business practices.
But no, lets be huge ass holes and talk shit because of the fact that a dude with an English heritage has an English accent instead - chat.
Same thing with Asmongold.
You share that reddit post Asmongold wrote in regards to his (lack of) enjoyment of the game without mentioned it was written by him and even staunch opposers would likely agree with his points or at least be significantly less hostile.
I agree. Outside of Jim’s channel, He’s a massive leftist. BUT, in his channel he actually spreads info we NEED to get these practices under control and stop them. I don’t mind Jim being a leftist by any means. It’s only when he starts to use them as ‘evidence’ that I’d stop watching him.
As of now, I am subscribed to him until his content becomes political or politically influenced. So I’m with Jim Sterling as of now.
I watched him for years and was saying the stuff he does for years as well and I was all ways told it's ok you don't have to buy them, or it's ok there not that much better.
More his arrogance and childish way he describes somebody who disagrees with him. Not everything he says is wrong, quite often the opposite. But he holds his opinion as the highest one on the internet. That's his shtick, and it's an annoying and shitty one.
The1rust I think it’s important to draw a line with Jim, he has extremely good content when it comes to exposing greedy video game companies and shady business practice, but he SHOULD NOT be looked to for his opinions on politics or thoughts on how many genders there are
personally I don't like him as a game critic, but on customer advocacy topics he is spot on
Jim is a voice of a reason in a world blinded by corporate greed. They dont even see themself as the bad guy in the scenario which is pretty ironic judging from that mad max analogy.
lol I was expecting hate cause its Jim sterling. Good on ya community and Asmon for actually liking it.
Etriuswimbleton agreed, everyone has their political views. It’s only when they shove their views down other’s throats that they should be frowned upon. Luckily Jim is shoving his politics into his vids, so we can still defend him.
@@Dr.Oofers You mean... Jim isn't shoving politics into his vids (usually), right? There was like 2 or so in the past year he did and I disliked them.
I'm in the same boat, really. I really like the jimquisition, but watching Jim's twitter talk about politics makes me roll my eyes sometimes.
I guess you could say that... P(L)AYERS took the L.
Cudos from god
We lost so bad, we even lost the damn L lol.
Underrated comment
Beautiful
I press F they go for L
Jim Sterling should be a legitimate advocate for gamers in the political sphere. The man is an absolute god.
thank god for Jim
@dakky 13 So what insider knowledge do you have about the game industry? Oh you went to gamestop and heard about a new release next week. intriguing. Im not sure if your dumb as fuck or just trolling. Prolly just dumb, Ive been a gamer for 30 years and met ALOT of uninformed crybabies who get salty about facts they don't like to hear.
Its amazing how quickly jim fell in so few years.
The left, not even once.
He wasn't against "game journalists" and their unethical behavior until they attacked him all of the sudden. 28:55 Yes they should be watchdogs and Yes game developers do that, but our dear Jim here thought that the accusation was just a smoke screen to attack women - until he is the target by Gamasutra of all places - the irony.
For anyone who might wonder, the song at 29:38 is Tycho - Ascension
Jims Sterling is great always keeps me up to date with this crap
I remember Jim in his time in Destructoid, when Destructoid was still worth reading being a polar opposite of industry shilling.
Thank GOD for Jim Sterling, and thank YOU for expanding his audience. I hope he blasts you back.
"If bodypaint is allowed, then paintings of bodies must also be allowed" is the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Intentional or not.
Jim Sterling is the best gaming channel on this website hands down
Ssethzeentach and Mandalore gaming are really great content-makers too
Yes they're games reviewers but they mainly cover underground indie and oldass forgotten consumer-friendly gems you can get for dirt-cheap
Is this why they sometimes hide the price on websites and you have to click to "show the price"? Because they're charging different amounts for the same product based on what information they have on you?
I have been saying this for ages that game companies will match you with players who have spent money on purpose with players who are new and barely spent money so you will want to spend the money. I also have a feeling that they make you lag on purpose. For some fps games they give invisible aimbots to streamers so reg players will be like omg if i play more i can be as good as xstreamer.
Humans are as good at something as hours they have put into it. As a broad general rule, ignoring the effects of talent/aging etc. So the streamer is not using an aimbot, it's simply the hours they put in.
Wow all of these people who have never heard of Jim Sterling. Thank god for Jim.
Does no one else fucking realize how dystopian scientific revenue's system?! You want some Cyberpunk corpo shit?! Here it fucking is!
The full of him stuff shit, like the "thank god for me" is just part of the show, he is actually pretty humble about his success
The ironic part: He's playing World of Warcraft...which still requires a subscription fee to play live content. You've been a payer for a long time, my friend. Though Blizzard hasn't been that upfront and scheming with their greedy practices...yet. Old video (last year), but goddamnit it's still relevant.
Jonny Rogers subscription doesn't fall in that category
subscriptions and microtransactions arent the same. nobody is mad that they have to pay for wow, the wow community is mad that the cash store was introduces.
22:58 I think Jim meant to say "games as service", not "gamer service". As in, games are not a product you buy once and can use as you wish, but something that can be used to repeatedly draw payments from customers, like a service.
I prefer the old Jim. He was like a big Elton john
Asmongold's face when the warning signs he sees in WoW correspond to a full blown leprosy outbreak in the rest of the videogames world.
We dont hate developers, just their shareholders and ringmasters.
Paul Middleton
Naw we hate the developers. They sold out
Point taken, but i think if they joined an indie group, they could change their ways. They only do what theyre told, or they face instant replacement. @@honeybadgermaldog7545
"Add loot boxes or your fired" its a hellish predicament.
They have the choice to do their own thing and they do not. One path is inherently more risky but more rewarding while the other is safer but filled with drudgery. That is why "they sold out" is appropriate.
@@paulmiddleton7168 "Add loot boxes or your fired" its a hellish predicament.
It's not, really. When money trumps your morals and ethics, you're part of the problem.
"flexible pricing" basically means: the highest price we can get away with
These megacorps that say "everyone does it" when their morality is called in to question, are the same ones who condemn people who say "everyone does it" when the morality of piracy is brought in to question.
to add to that, most of their "everyone" are the 5 or so existing gaming megacompanies and their ceo's all hang out on the weekend
Jesus Christ, the different currencies in the games are the literal embodiment of chips in the casino.
At least that could be traded back for proper cash when you're done playing...
While he is late to this party, as am I with this reply, I think it is a good reminder to keep us aware of this issue and keep the party going, it is happening in mainstream gaming, it is confirmed (through released patents) EA's FIFA uses dynamic pricing though, one you won't notice, since it's dynamic pricing in the form of outcome not the actual purchase price.
Plus all sorts of big data gathering is being done all over the (and many other) industry(s), many for good uses but also many for bad manipulative uses.
The solution is simple, they listen only to your wallet, so don't give them a sound.
Hey Az, just 19:20 in and wanted to mention the secondary currencies are not there just for a disconnect but also they can be offered ingame as a reward as a small amount, and there is no way they would offer real $$$ reward for in game actions no matter how small, because some people somewhere would farm it, a relevant example would be if wow tokens could be changed to real money.
250 bucks is nothing. there are app games that have 499 single "micro transactions" for biweekly events. they wouldnt offer them if someone wasnt buying them
Anyone who spends money on micro transactions is an absolute moron
29:16 that's exactly what's happening and has been happening from a while.
There are MASSIVE quantities of irrefutably proven claims where 'gaming journalists' are embargoed by companies (and subsequently embargoed by EVERY large company as part of a shared industry-wide blacklist) resulting from critical reviews of games pre-release. In other words, if you get a free release copy to review you either write something good or the company makes sure you don't write anything ever again (early).
Lol at chat dissing jim sterling. The normies will always show themselves.
Nah, those aren't normies. They are just stupid modern gamers. You know, the ones that consider anything remotely left-leaning a threat, will stick up for companies forever until the company makes a mistake so big you'd be blind not to see it (referencing the blizzard's fans that thought loot boxes weren't "so bad" or "just cosmetic"), and will cannibalize each other and many other communities out of spite.
Chat tends to be overly jaded.
yeah whatever happened with agree to disagree?
maybe some proper counterarguments before you start calling people a commie? lol
i don't agree with some of his strong social justice opinions on things,
but i still love the guy because of his awesome rants and delivery, and share his position on predatory business practices.
and he helps getting shit done too, the way i see it, he's a real asset to the betterment of the games industry.
@@demsterclippy4252 what the fuck are you talking about? Most (if not all) of these money grabber publishers are left leaning. You are talking out of your ass here, most of these greedy sellout companies went full SJW in the past couple years FYI. People who diss Jim are most likely children who have no relevant life experience because they are spoonfed and they have no actual sense of the world around them (or you could call it reality), it has nothing to do with left or right leaning, even if you MUST bring politics into this atleast do it right...children in chat dissing Jim who disses left-leaning companies make the children in chat hating on "anything thats left-leaning" u wot m8?
+I Am Norkore What
One of Jim's best Quisitions. Glad more folks are finally finding this shit out
I don't really agree with some of Jim's political views, but no one can deny that he's doing a hell of a lot of good for gaming. The guy is brilliant and we need more people like him in the world.
"Someone's about to get roasted"
*gets popcorn*
My dude you need to check out the Jim Sterling vs digital homicide stuff. It's amazing.
Not only are secondary currencies a disconnect between the product and real money, but they can also set it up so that the quantities of secondary currency you have to purchase never match up with the cost to buy anything; you'll always have some left over as a slight nudge to spend more to get your "money's worth".
Gamers are entitled and think they deserve good games.
Please tell me that was sarcasm... would you say that of movie buffs? Avid readers? People who eat food?
Yeah, that guy in the background said some questionable stuff. At least hes subed to Jim now.
@@Relptica__ I don't know, that's Mcconnell, right? I think he is serious. I don't want to be mean but I've watched other videos with his commentary and the dude just isn't all that bright.
@@cloverjoker I have no idea if he's being serious but I've just assumed at this point he's basically there to stir the pot. Any time I've seen Asmon ask for his opinion he's either given incredibly ill-informed, knee-jerk answers, or failed to give any answer at all as though he's incapable of creating his own personal opinions.
@@cloverjoker yeah.. he's being serious. that wasn't sarcasm. Mcconnell is just a piece of shit
Sometimes, sarcasm and believability can blend so well, you can hardly tell the difference anymore.
16:50
It's not exactly a "chicken and egg" thing. People don't respect mobile games, because the complexity of the games has to be dumbed down by necessity, by virtue of the limitation of control a player can have in the medium. It's irrational to hate on mobile games, if they were just another platform for PC games, because then there wouldn't be any distinction between them, but in fact there is, the complexity.
The issue about attitude of developers towards players, and the reaction vise versa inflamed from that is a secondary thing, that also spawned after the fact. The problem here is, the attitude of gamers towards mobile is passive, the alienation of developers towards gamers is hostile.
so fun to watch someone see this first
and there is also a reason why i dont want to ever get a alexa or something of the like, because it is always listening. unless you completely remove any power source, or provider.
There are actually a few good mobile games that don't prey upon players, but none of those are from the West. Sdorica, Azur Lane, and Honkai Impact 3rd are subscribed of the best examples. Sdorica pushes absolutely nothing, Azur Lane provides so much of their resources for free that you don't ever need to pay for anything, other than cosmetics of you want. And HI3 took warframes approach where everything can easily be earned.
Honkai Impact 3rd unfortunately died out.
I love the difference between Asmon and Mcconnell. Mcconnell: SHARE THIS STREAM RIGHT NOW. Asmon: Forget the self promotion, share the video.
It amazes me to no end ... that "this" is news to many streamers ...
I love Jim Sterling, been following him for years and am a Patron. I understand that his asshole character that he portrays rubs people the wrong way, he is playing the part of a Heel, but there is no greater advocate for consumers then Jim Fucking Sterling Son. Thank God for Jim.
It's not wrong if people are paying for it........ I'm sure the drug cartells would love to hear that.
It's kind of interesting to watch someone just discovering Jim Sterling after I've been viewing him for several years. The guy makes a lot of good points and the persona's he uses in his videos really keep me entertained while I'm absorbing the information he's offering. Much of his older Jimquisitions are still very relevant today so they're definitely worth a look into. And to those wondering why Asmongold hasn't seen this guy before; come on, he's still relatively small with under a million subs. Though honestly I feel he should have a lot more.
Gaming's Prophet Jim Sterling
at around 28:40, i was watching the background vid of a character take out those mobs with just one hit. Is this what WoW is like now? Like Diablo?
I'm watching youtube through someone else's computer watching youtube in Twitch while I'm in youtube! future :D
The buying stuff with coins so you don't associate it with money thing is the same thing Vegas does with chips at the tables. Long proven that you'll spend more if you disassociate it with money
asmongold watched this too early, should had waited for diablo immortal release KEKW
Funny that Asmon is now being subjected to that exact same algorithm. He's finally fallen for it. 1:08 That's you Asmon!
Also, the fact that you don't actually pay money for Items allows them to avoid having a refund system, because you bought the coins, and as you don't have them anymore you can't get your money back
What you said is one of the reasons, but the main one is the one above
i dont really think players think that they are entiteld to good games, i guess players just want a good game since a couple years, every game is pre pre pre alpha, full of loot boxes or any other pay system, too many expansions to be paid for and just generally buggy and underdeveloped games with good ideas behind them.
Because I want something doesn't mean I'll get it does it
@@joshheinink no ofc not but times have changed, investors were investors back then and now the customers are the investors even buying unfinished product and giving the publishers no reason to further improve a game or even finish it, theres a lot of examples, let me just drop no mans sky, dayz, mavericks, star citizen and a couple more titles. i understand why people are frustrated, because they get promised so much but get so little-nothing in return
@@d4rkh4l34 what they put out is worth 20 at best no way 50/60
@@joshheinink 100% agreed
I think I've heard the argument "everyone's doing it" somewhere else before... I'm having a difficult time remembering what other industries said that as well. It's like my memory has gone up in smoke.
but the government knows the best how to spend your money
yes to aid the illegal immigrants
@Hesus wat? I made this comment to say that even tho McConnell understand taxation is theft he doesn't realize what this country's foundation was we didn't have income taxes we didn't have a lot of things personally I am saying that the federal or BIG government is always bad so that is why(and I know it will never happen) if we banned all personal federal taxes we would have a better time at removing corruption because at that point there is no money for them to make off us
Social institutes and services that are available via government are what makes people have less natural selection in our daily life, so people who weren't lucky with what nature gave to them or with their parents have more chance to live tolerably. Of course, there is a bad side of this (welfare leeches, corruption) but it's better than not having this. Can't imagine how fun it might be to live in the US, being on the borderline poverty situation and accidentally break the leg.
@@OGRUclipsEnjoyer it doesn't take billions to fund a competent police force
@@OGRUclipsEnjoyer Get the strap, back to the 1700s LUL
The moment all the lootbox talk started, it was plainly obvious that Blizzard are using the same philosophy in WoW, just with different tools.
Well we know what Diablo Mobile will be like now xD
We all already knew
Cassandra was the Oracle from Greek mythology that would give prophecies that would be ignored and then lead to ruin. She was meant to represent how people would ignore the warning signs of their own hubris.
ah before jim lost the plot
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Currency in video games serves both to disconnect you from your money, but also to force you buy fixed amounts of currency for stuff that never costs the exact amount of currency that you bought, which forces you to spend money for leftover currency that you'll never use. Fking brilliant.
Late capitalism blues.
sad part is gamerbro's are turning to fascism instead of something like marxism. From my experience they seem to love trump, a guy who deregulating/giving tax cuts to the top 1%
@oneslimeboy rimuru tempest the biggest brain takes of the century. Socialism is when the workers collectively own the means of production, does that sound like the soviet union to you? No it wasnt, it was an authoritarian regime where the government controls the means of production. Just like fascism, this is why people say socialism hasnt been tried because it hasnt. When people advocate for worker coops they arent advocating for stalinism, they just want capital to be democratically owned instead of being owned by a capitalist
@oneslimeboy rimuru tempest capitalism was at one point in the same stage, mercantilism was an utter failure as it was a warped version of what we now know as capitalism. Many socialized programs work tremendously like universal healthcare much like how some aspects of mercantilism worked seeing as it was part of what would be modern day capitalism
marxism will never work in the west because people have too strong a sense of self
@@DATskorge exactly, nothin like working all day all year at 9$ an hour to make me feel like an individual. fuck workers rights and finding meaning in life when you can keep bezos at 150 billion in net worth!!!!!
Scientific Revenue actually seems a fair and good idea.
Not sure if in practice it can still be, because I suspect that an entry level player would pay more than an established player which already has been profiled and is far more predictable.
But other variables like: location, type of phone, wallet spend... could make way to adjusted prices for people who are less fortunate than others, instead of having the same prices for low-class, middle-class, high-class.
Spoilers from the future: It got worse.
The video being watched a year later. Now share. Been watching Jim since he was on The Escapist. That being said glad this is being shared again.
I never turn on Asmongold's chats because he has so many haHAA kids it is disgusting. Instead of banning trihard, try banning haHAA and see how many people can last. Edit: Any form of cringe emote.
I have noticed he also doesn't seem to do a "Sub Only" chat when he goes live, and I think that causes more spam as well.
I follow Day9 and he goes into that mode when he goes live, but I also find his chatroom to be more reasonable as well.
I personally don't use or read Twitch chat,I just have the stream on Fullscreen. Twitch chat is too edgy for me,everyone trying to act like the worst imaginable way. Like @I'm Out said, it's a bad place to be and thankfully we have the decision to close it up.
Cassandra is a figure from greek mythology, that was cursed to be able to see into the future but nobody would ever believer her. She was cursed to know the horrible fate people would have, but she was powerless to ever change them
Gamers are entitled to good games? So we should be playing bad games to be less entitled?
Has anyone ever called out publishers as being entitled to free money?
"he looks like a batman villain"
yeah, that actually does a decent job of describing his persona. He is purposely as outspoken and self-congratulatory as possible for that reason