What Did Hoplites Wear INSIDE Their Helmets?
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- This video explains what ancient Greek warriors used inside their helmets, for padding, comfort, and shock absorption, in a fast #shots style.
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The straw arming cap is very interesting. I had assumed there was some sort of padding in Greek helmets before, but I never really pondered what it was made from. I mostly know about medieval armor.
Rope helmets and arming caps exist, similar sort of structure and function.
Athena legit just wore a welding cap in that mural.
nah it ain't so
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No warrior has ever treasured helmets as much as movies have hated them.
I used to be a construction worker. The way hard hats are built always interested me. They're made to hold the shell off the head, so its not actually touching. I always wondered if that type of system would have worked for midevil helmets.
Essentially that is what these arming caps do, however i believe later on they invented a floating harness inside the helmet
Nice love Ancient Greece and always wondered this question.
Thanks! Glad it helped!!
Very informative!
Thanks!
Great video!
Thanks!
i Like the AC Odyssey music in the background
I always wondered what they put in there helmets to shield from the blow, now I can make a leather cap with some cloth at the back of it, maybe in blue for Athens and red for Sparta.
Great video, great channel! 👍
Thanks so much!
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Thank you for this video! It completely answered my questions. The Ancient Greek world is my favorite historical time period. I love the music you used very much aswell! ❤️🏛️
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Hello, I am creating a helmet in the Corinthian style. And I wonder how they were kept safely for moving in a fight. They should have had a kind of chin strap. I did not see any yet on antic representations. The corinthian helmet worn by the Athena shows these 2 loops left and right. Looking like a folded chin strap. You now explain in this video that Athena wears a Scythian hat/cap. I looked online for Scythian hats. And I checked for Phrygian caps. I thought that Athena may rather wear a Phrygian cap instead of a Scythian. Scythians were considered bararbarians. Why would Athena be using a headgear of barbarians? If you have more information about the hat worn by Athena with or without helmets.. please give a hint.
I plan for a trial to create a hat with such chin straps which will fold and be rolled in the way it is shown on the 2 sides of Athena's helmet. I also continue to search for hints to the hat worn under helmets by other helmet users on original ancient Greek art.
www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=kataityx%20kyne
Hi! We actually have no evidence of chin straps on them. As per scythian hats being for barbarians, i have actually never heard of this, and it is quite commonly depicted in vase art and on statues. I suppose it is hard to tell on the athena one, as it is covered
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History Hello, Many thanks for your reply. I continue to search information about the way the users of Corinthian helmets secured this item especially in combat. Up to now I rather feel disturbed by this item which distracts my attention while the helmet is worn. Of course to show off with it when worn as a hat in the backward inclined position the stylish fashion headgear fullfills well its function. Another thing which I felt during my first trials was claustrophobia. Imagining how a blunt blow on the nose guard would easy get the head stuck into this bowl. I will create a phrygian style of skull cap with the 2 straps left and right where the temporal bones are and an extension covering the neck and making the rear edge of the helmet more comfortable. I will check how rain water flows. Can hardly imagine that anybody would have let water just run down straight into his colar of his body armor. The extension covering the neck in the back is shown on some ancient coins with Corinthian helmet wearing portraits. I added the link to such a helmet accessory shown here:
www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=kataityx%20kyne
I like how the assassin’s creed odyssey music playing in the background
The pilos hat that you named here is still worn by Albanians to this day, just that we have different names for it, anywhere from Plis to Qeleshe.
Great info man. What did greeks use for footwear for their armies?
Thanks! Usually sandals, also boots were available
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History im picturing lots of hobnails. How did they fight up mountains in winter i wonder. Gotta be some ugg boots somewhere.
@@billyelliot4141 probably would have not fought up hill, phalanx warfare was usually placed in a muteral landscape, flat is ideal. Not saying it never happened, but definitely not common
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History i hope u have played rome total war. U will love it. Usually guys make history short videos and get all the facts muddled up. You nailed it however. Great treatment. Keep up the good work. 🇮🇪🤣
@@billyelliot4141 thanks! And yes, i love that game!
I wish I had a vintage hoplite helmet.
Finding original would be pricey, but when I was in welding school, we make all kinds of replica armor, seriously the metal and the welder would cost much less than a real ancient helmet. Just a thought
Has a pogo sticks ever been found with hoplites?
Hey, what do you mean by pogo stick?
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History They are hop lites. How do they hop?
@@chrisazure1624 aha! Sorry i was a bit slow on that haha
The last hat is still around and it's part of Albanian identity, made from sheep wool. Pilos hat its called Plis in Albanian Language and it will reach UNESCO. Soon
The cap of liberty was worn as late as the French national and later old guard
Cloth caps, leather caps, straw hats, etc. They all served their purpose when metal is worn over it
Achilles stuffed his helm with aquatic sponges, IIRC.
I guess they would have used cheapest and readily available material, such as straws. straws probably were good for some ventilation too, and when smelly and moldy with sweat, also easily discarded and replaceable.
felt would be next.
They used leather and sea sponge. According Aristotle sea sponge is the best material to be used inside the helmet.
Interesting you say that, at the Plataea reenactment a few people tried that and found that the spounges soon compressed too much and didnt really grant any padding
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History Interesting, according Aristotle there are 4 types of sponges and every type has specific uses. Maybe they didn't use the right type, maybe it was processed differently or maybe he was wrong?
@@aokiaoki4238 all are certainly possible, sadly i dont think we can tell for sure
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Under the helmet they wore a kind of hat very similar to the knit hat Peruvian wears. It was made from dog leather.
Perhaps that is an option, as well as the ones mentioned in this video
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History it's a fact the name of this leather hat was kyni (kene) which comes from kynas which means dog .
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History canine
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History the reason that this leather hat was made from dog skin is that dog skin have no pores and can not absorb moisture easily which means that cannot get soaked and became loose neither shrink when dry . It keeps its dimensions. By the way I live in modern days Sparta which is build upon the ancient one. Spartans burry their battle casualties not in a cemetery but in the streets of the city so everybody remember them. In modern days during excavations for the new buildings foundations is not uncommon to find graves of those warriors and their helmets usually they wear under the helmet the leather hat. I have never hear or see straw inside the helmet. Wish you the best.
That last hat was totally just a Greek beanie right?
IN THE AND OF THE SHORT WE CAN SEE TRAD. STARTIAT,S HELMETS 6-5 H. B.C.
Cool
They wore Beats by Dre under them
That helmet is tough looking..
I've got a bicycle crash helmet beanie liner 😋
Heads?
I miss my Spanish conquistador Morion helmet which came with that conical cap you mention. Oh, to be epic.
Albanians still wear the pilos, we call it the plis.
Interesting, thanks!
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History Romans used it to, it was called the pilleum. It was used by the romans to signify not being a slave. Freeing of slaves had a ceremony where their heads would be shaved and a pilleum would be placed on the head.
The Albanian cap is round though
@@alcaeus701 They have different versions
Two rounds of cheese and pickle and a packet of Ready Salted.
It's an ancient beanie
Because god doesn't love us, the dorkiest clothing is always the most practical
/sarcasm
Bro the most important piece of armor is not the helm, is the shield
A shield isn't armour though
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History they were called the Argyraspides "silver shields" for a reason not the silver helmets.
@@fun-jq1wc sure, the macadonian silver shields were a unit. But a shield isn't armour... the helmet was the most important piece of armour. A shield was more vital in the way they fought, but then again, a shield isn't armour. Out of all pieces of armour, the one which protects your head is the most important.
@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History are you implying that because the shield is carried and not worn then it's not armor and therefore the helmet is the most important part? Like i just don't understand why this insistence that a shield; a personal armor carried in one's hand, is suddenly not that super relevant in comparison to a helmet, which admittedly is really important but i mean the helmet only protects the head while the shield protects the entire chest and arms.
@@fun-jq1wc as i said, the shield is the most vital in this era, but it is equipment, not armour. Its a little bit of splitting hairs but thats generally how we define the panoply :)
That looks like brass
so they wore beanies
Next week: Helmets in parliament.
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During that time all they so is fight and kill each other... mma is not invented yet
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