STOP Shallowing The Golf Club Like This! (DON’T Dish It Out)
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Maybe you finally feel you're shallowing the golf club, but your shots are still curving off line? Let's fix that!
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In this video, Henry and Milo break down a critical missing piece they often see when students are trying to get a more shallow golf swing. If you've seen their Doorknob Move in the past, then this episode will run hand-in-hand with how to properly shallow the golf club to begin your downswing without losing face control. You'll learn the key elements you need! We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback.
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Ordered w the 10% discount MILO
Awesome. Should be 15% off.
LOVE this video. I have that tool and have been watching your videos for a while (I’m also one of Ed’s students). Doing this movement and getting this (wrist condition) feel is incredible. I’m far from an accomplished golfer… But I am learning how to do this. It is making a HUGE (positive) difference in my swing. Thanks for sharing this knowledge.
Ed is the Man!
Isn't the MoI squaring the (open) clubface in the follow-thru/downswing by itself if rotating properly w/o manipulation. See also Bradley Hughes. We shouldn't be feared of an open clubface in the downsing MOTION, and looking at positions like here is tricky anyway.
To some extent yes
In transition the weight of the club head wants to fall & shallow perfectly as long as you’re tension free & don’t rush the transition aka get quick from the top. If you were to go to the top, stop, let the club fall where it wants to which of course is back, that automatically causes lead wrist flexion, then the change of direction combined with the weight of the club creates lead wrist radial deviation. The longer you can wait & let gravity do its thing in the transition, the more the clubs wants to shallow. It seems like trying to force the shallow by muscling lead wrist flexion is what causes people to loose the angles (radial in the lead) in their wrist rather than letting it happen through light tension & the natural forces in transition. Again as long as the club is in a decent position at the top, the weight of the club combined with gravity & the direction change adds flexion & radial deviation in the lead wrist automatically unless the player keeps it from happening via tension or force. The key is light tension & a smooth transition which can feel like almost pausing at the top briefly while letting the club fall back with light tension for many people, it doesn’t need to be contrived through muscle force, in fact trying to force the shallow is where many people go wrong.
I agree generally however most people actually apply a big force in the steepening direction and must learn to let the club work a different way.
I’ve commented this before but this channel took me from a 155 ball speed guy to a high of 176 ball speed now. Zero cap. The only issue I’ve had is getting my ball to start on line. I’m hitting it solid and long, but I’m two way missing and can’t seem to fix it. This drill looks good to help me use my forearms and not just my wrists to shallow the club. Can I buy that tool somewhere?
Thanks for following along Johnny! Use code MILO for 15% off: www.hangergolf.com/?sca_ref=1241787.QjR9qxiaa7
Guys, it's good info and helpful. Thank you.
Pls keep the video short and simple. Too much talking
Thanks for watching! We try to mix it up to provide quality information and be thorough for those who also want that. Will keep 'em coming.
Feeling the hinge better from the last video and this one so much better. With the driver, the release happens a lil earlier??? Correct? Or for me it feels like I’m holding on to long? Thanks for all the great vids! Helped so much
Yes but that happens because of how we extend more and a little earlier with driver and as a result that energy release makes its way to the wrists.
Is this different from the “motorcycle move”? I have a problem imagining turning a door knob with my hands above my head
Similar, yes. Here is another episode that may be helpful: ruclips.net/video/XjV_r3ZQM48/видео.html
As JackNicklaus have shown over the years is that the golf swing is simply one complete twirling of the club handle clockwise existing left. Known as what I call The Twirl Waggle Golf Swing. Cheers.
Twirl Waggle, haha, love it. Thanks for watching!
@@MiloLinesGolf feel free to explore this for yourself and you will see why I love it. Hope you make a video about it.
This is great stuff, too much time, words spent on what not to do. Give me more of what to do
Some people ask us to be thorough, just covering it all =). Thanks for watching!
... i like Brian Manzella's "twist away" - motorcycle throttle move of lead hand/wrist. Another way to get what you're after here.
Wow, a light bulb just went off! Thanks!
You welcome Joseph!
Seems like a lot of people turn from the top but they don’t lower the arms. The other part that you all have addressed in other videos is arms dropping in transition rather than shooting out toward the ball.
Thanks!
Alan
Guys, thank you for going through step by step and explaining the what, how, and why on what makes this bad and good. I had trouble visualizing from the top of the downswing to the delivery position but not anymore. This video along with the lesson I got from a Golftec instructor a few weeks ago have been the key pieces missing in my swing.
Thanks for following along John and glad it helped provide some clarity!
Trying moving the Hanger around to the Right forearm. That gives you the right arm feel, if you don't like the left arm feel.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Thanks, guys.
Shedding light on the “shallowing” myth.
Will try on the range.
Greetings from Argentina.
Che! Yo Vivi dos anos en Argentina! Es un pais hermoso, ojala tu gobierno les sirve mejor que lo ha hecho historicamente.
Awesome I'm going to get one. Thx fellas
A wall, a doorknob, or a Hanger? 😂
@MiloLinesGolf Hangar with the MILO discount code. I'm doing the "waiter" thing. Been doing it forever. Time to fix it
This is great… after seeing your initial video on the topic, I used similar baseball analogy, but a pitching-based one that seemed to resonate with me. When you do the door knob motion incorrectly, it feels like throwing a slider, early release of right wrist extension with too much supination which opens the club face.
When you do it correctly, it feels like throwing a four-seam fastball/cutter, holding and delaying the release of the right wrist extension and only a slight amount of supination (cutter right = straight/fade) or even a bit of pronation (cutter left = draw) after the initial supination during transition.
Thanks for your content-you guys are fantastic!
Great visuals and feels
In a future video, I'd like to see both of your trackman numbers with all your clubs when you are twisting it square earlier vs a more traditional hinge and release swing.
Good idea, thanks for watching!
Thank you guys I have been following you guys since toward the end of last year and this video here makes all the sense to me because when l feel as if l am pushing rather than slinging the club l create a whole lot of club head speed with power. l have a muscular/strong upper body and it's a shame to sling when l can leverage with that strength. Again thank you and keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching and if we can be of further help, please do reach out or become a member of milolinesgolf.com!
Great video I just got one and compression of irons improved immediately. Also thx for the advice to swing no more than 70 %
You bet, thanks for following along!
The Hanger is great. Most will hate using it bc the feeling is so unfamiliar to most. Great vid guys !!
Thanks, and your tool is great as well! milolinesgolf.com/training-gear/
Question - how do you do this without adding tension and stifling your release?
This is an excellent question, and perhaps difficult to convey. Grip pressure, structure, tension, softness, are all challenging as everyone's feels and strengths are different. You will likely need to feel some structure at first before finding it with a softer, more allowing pattern. As for the release, we like to think of it more as a byproduct and less as an intent.
💡💡💡💡I had to stop mid video and go grab my club. Great stuff
Thanks for watching!
I feel like you have been teaching this exact move for the past three years lol
=) It's a good one in our mind!
Does the hangar help with an over the top swing would you say?
Most likely yes, but I'd have to see your swing to offer you the best advice. Have you looked into joining our online academy? milolinesgolf.com
100% buying the hanger. Almost did a few months ago but forgot abt it. Milo needs an affiliate link :)
I linked it in the description, but here you go: milolinesgolf.com/training-gear/
@@MiloLinesGolf ahh....my bad. Thanks as always
Waste of time. Get to the fix
Thanks for your feedback. Most people enjoy our process and content in identifying pitfalls so they can understand and make the necessary corrections. We have to cater to everyone.
Great stuff, Lads!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've always hated the term "shallow the club". What's really happening is flattening the swing with shoulder tilt, and rotating the club face slightly closed.
Az...... Please clarify... I'm not sure I agree with what you said.... But I want to fully understand it before saying so.
AZ.... In the golf swing the shoulders should rotate. They should not tilt. The golf swing is
***Posture
***Plane
***Balance (dynamic balance not static balance..... Which is created through correct Footwork)
*** Everything else is just details.... But the difference between good, great and the all-time Great players.... Is in the details.
If your shoulders are working incorrectly, meaning instead of rotating they are tilting..... That could poison all three areas... posture, plane and balance.
Regarding the subject of "shallowing the club" ......
*** Yes, The club does shallow but it is not something you 'make happen'. It is the result of good mechanics following the correct order of movement (sequencing) along with the correct tension relationships within the body during the swinging motion. We want motion, movement with both the body and club. Balance must be dynamic, not static. The body performs most effectively and efficiently when the muscles, joints and tendons are at ease before and during the movement.