This is great. Proves that you can create dense, lush shoegaze sounds w/ a very basic setup. That's very much what the shoegaze spirit is all about. People forget that the OG shoegazers used a lot of cheap boss/digitech stuff and just messed around w/ the knobs and pedal positions.
I agree so much! Ive been doing shoegaze stuff for years and 90% of my rig is cheap shit ive found online, behringer pedals and amps with kmise pedals and an 80$ strat copy. Not to mention all the early bands that mostly just plugged into amps which were usually cheap solid states.
@@gupster24 Indeed, Behringer is great for shoegaze. I really like that they are (mostly) Boss clones, so for the price of one Boss delay pedal you can get like 5 different Behringer pedals and go wild. I have the HM300 (like the one in this video), and it's great in this type of setup, at the end of the chain. Pump delay and reverb into it and you get a nice wobbly, fuzzy, rough around the edges kind of sound, which the OP captures well in his demo.
Playing starts at 1:08 - sorry for the talking. This is camera audio only because I wanted to give an idea of the "room sound" or "sound in the room" This video and pedalboard was inspired by seeing the Trauma Ray frontman's pedalboard at Andy's in Denton Texas April 27th 2023. He has a Walrus Audio RED distortion pedal on his board as his first dirt box in his chain. I looked it up and the Walrus RED pedal is a clone or based on the Boss HM-2 pedal. The behringer HM300 is a direct clone of the boss HM-2 (Source JHS)
@@Ian-Threaded Well if you're adamant I know there's sections for RUclips now? No clue how you set them up as a creator but you can label parts/chapters and people can see where stuff starts and ends
This sounds really cool, i love seeing what people can do with relatively inexpensive setups, behringer seems like the go to for really cheap really solid sounding distortion pedals, I've seen their different pedals replicate sounds from classic vintage pedals.
@@tsg_frank thanks for the kind words frank! I also love seeing what’s possible on relatively budget setups. JHS exploring the Behringer pedals really turned me on to them when he opened them up and found they are identical clones of classic pedals. There is an ethical issue there I suppose but in terms of sound you cannot really hate on them right?
It is entirely okay to use an HM-2/clone at not completely maxed out. Sounded good on its own. Take that, everyone. So did the not klon. You’re gonna make me bust my Behringer out (it doesn’t live on the board) I also like chorus before dirt just generally.
@@therewasascene preach! As soon as I saw the trauma ray guitar player basically use a HM-2 style clone not all maxed out I was like hold up I gotta try that. That not Klon is so great. I’ve never played a real one but I cannot believe how loud this cheap clone is. Its unity volume at like 20% volume. Insane Also have been exploring putting chorus in different places. Chorus after delay and chorus seem to be kind of interesting for solo and lead stuff
Hehe trying to get an order for a bass (Vintage VS4) sorted as we speak. It's been a nightmare but staying hopeful. Then got to get the pedals. I'll see what I can do when the time comes. 😎 Edit: I do have a bass already (Ibanez Mikro) but I damaged the key hole for the truss rod too badly. I'll be keeping it but I'm going to try putting guitar strings on it instead.
@@Nutamago I will look into the old zoom models. I have a g1x4 zoom model and absolutely love it so I have high hopes. As for the Klon clone I don’t think it is marked and appears to be from temu or wish or something like that
@@Nutamago looking up a CDR now. And yeah the clone looks pretty darn good. I honestly have no idea what a Klon should even sound like (I hear that a electroharmonix soul food is Klon based but I’ve never tried one) all I know is I was extremely impressed by this cheap clone. It has an unbelievable amount of volume on tap and sounds amazing at any gain setting. So clear and pleasant sounding even with the gain maxed
@@elliesarchive7 appreciate all the kind words and love! Will do. And it is in standard I believe yes. I am 99% sure. The only other option would be drop C# but I don’t believe so for this one
@@kurtfl0 nothing wrong with that. TC electronic is a very reputable brand name but you can absolutely find these used for around $30. Check Facebook marketplace. They are online like guitar center used and reverb etc etc but the shipping cost ends up being half as much as the pedal unless you do a bigger order of a couple pedals all at once from guitar center that would make it make more sense. If you wanted to go even cheaper than that. Or cannot find a prophet used I can recommend the Kmise analog or digital delay (one is green and the other is brown) both are $17.99 on Amazon prime with free returns if you don’t vibe with it. They just aren’t as “cool” looking as the prophet or falling star. They are also a little more simple
Very interested in your thoughts behind pedal chain order. Your setup is backwards from everything I’ve ever seen and read. Is there a method to your madness? 🤘
@@RhoadesGuitars most of the time I like my modulation into dirt into delay into reverb But for more blown out crazy Shoegaze sounds I sometimes like getting a little crazy and starting off with delay and reverbs first in the chain. It really makes a wall of sound. If the delay is last I find the repeats to be more subtle as you would normally hear. With the delay and reverb first they get crazy because the delay repeats and reverb swells are getting distorted themselves by the dirt effects. It is definitely backwards and “not best practice” but I think it can be fun to do and it definitely makes me play differently and come up with different song ideas
I been liking Iset pedals off Amazon, very cheap. Phaser and Flanger are top notch. Flange is better than my Helix. Phoenix Wings tremelo. Caline Time Space. No chorus yet but wanna find another micro pedal one.
@@binomial6473 I find reverb to be way too pricy. All these that were used were from guitar center or music go round. I found that if I buy more than one used pedal from guitar center online I only pay one shipping fee even if one is from California and another is from New York etc. I have gotten 3+ before and only paid $18 shipping total. But I try to just buy from my local guitar center and music go round and avoid shipping fees. Facebook marketplace is also a favorite but I hate driving an hour and waiting for someone to meet at a Sheetz etc
@@Ian-Threaded that's a useful tip about guitar center online, i never knew that! marketplace in my experience tends to be the best but like it's so often so inconvenient
@@binomial6473 heck yeah I hope it helps. I find myself putting a hand full of cheap used guitar center pedals in my cart and then just pulling the trigger all together for a very reasonable single shipping fee. Also (for New pedals) gear hero is a great website from Florida. No tax outside of Florida + free shipping and they seem to run promo codes a lot. I just used “pedalgenie” and got 15% off that new eqd hoof. Discount + no tax + free shipping is the way to go for new purchases. Got it cheaper than some used eqd hoof pedals I was seeing
@@Ian-Threaded Yeah I totally hear My Vitriol here in your playing too! Amazing band, still play live occasionally. Check out the Finelines album, it’s full of sounds like this.
This is great. Proves that you can create dense, lush shoegaze sounds w/ a very basic setup. That's very much what the shoegaze spirit is all about. People forget that the OG shoegazers used a lot of cheap boss/digitech stuff and just messed around w/ the knobs and pedal positions.
@@Davalexon couldn’t have said it better myself. Thanks for the kind words
I agree so much! Ive been doing shoegaze stuff for years and 90% of my rig is cheap shit ive found online, behringer pedals and amps with kmise pedals and an 80$ strat copy. Not to mention all the early bands that mostly just plugged into amps which were usually cheap solid states.
@@Ian-Threaded 👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸
@@gupster24 you should do a little video of your rig. I would love to see your setup and even more importantly - how you use it etc
@@gupster24 Indeed, Behringer is great for shoegaze. I really like that they are (mostly) Boss clones, so for the price of one Boss delay pedal you can get like 5 different Behringer pedals and go wild. I have the HM300 (like the one in this video), and it's great in this type of setup, at the end of the chain. Pump delay and reverb into it and you get a nice wobbly, fuzzy, rough around the edges kind of sound, which the OP captures well in his demo.
Playing starts at 1:08 - sorry for the talking. This is camera audio only because I wanted to give an idea of the "room sound" or "sound in the room"
This video and pedalboard was inspired by seeing the Trauma Ray frontman's pedalboard at Andy's in Denton Texas April 27th 2023. He has a Walrus Audio RED distortion pedal on his board as his first dirt box in his chain. I looked it up and the Walrus RED pedal is a clone or based on the Boss HM-2 pedal. The behringer HM300 is a direct clone of the boss HM-2 (Source JHS)
hey man you yapped accordingly. one minute of talking at the beginning is the perfect amount for a 15 minute video. great tone. great video!
@@chivopalacios thank you! That makes me feel better - and glad you liked the tones. Always looking for more cool sounds with budget gear
@@Ian-Threaded Hey again lol what he said, dont feel bad about talking for 1 minute dude☠
@@Texasisthereasonn thank you man but trust me I do. I wish there was an auto skip for people that just want playing
@@Ian-Threaded Well if you're adamant I know there's sections for RUclips now? No clue how you set them up as a creator but you can label parts/chapters and people can see where stuff starts and ends
Nice to hear some Riffs from my favorite Bands over there. Trauma Ray, Citizen, Cloakroom… You nailed it!
@@marounso thank you so much! You have amazing taste
2:47 Took me to space man
@@reubenrozeyt5716 dude thank you so much that’s sick
Dude this sounds so good. Great setup!
@@lknez13 thanks man! I finally got these on a board. Absolutely love them. Total gems
I have equivalents to all of these in some form, it would simply never have occurred to me to put them in that order though, so thanks for the tip.
@@-processdrone- no problem! I hope it gets you some cool sounds and inspires you to play different things
This sounds really cool, i love seeing what people can do with relatively inexpensive setups, behringer seems like the go to for really cheap really solid sounding distortion pedals, I've seen their different pedals replicate sounds from classic vintage pedals.
they have a lot of affordable options in the synth market too
@@tsg_frank thanks for the kind words frank! I also love seeing what’s possible on relatively budget setups. JHS exploring the Behringer pedals really turned me on to them when he opened them up and found they are identical clones of classic pedals. There is an ethical issue there I suppose but in terms of sound you cannot really hate on them right?
@@diggle7046 I need to check that out. Synth pedals are so cool
Nice playing!
@@Steven-kj7xq thanks Steven!
great video man!
@@Tuff_Bananas thank you, Jeremy!
Awesome to see someone in an excellent band using "budget" stuff to make such good music.
@@Hilaire_Balrog thank you for the kind words, hilaire. If it sounds good it is good. Plain and simple
Killer tone dude 🗣🔥🔥
@@theonetime1009 dude thank you so much! Appreciate the comment
Amazing tone and playing!
@@MrJBC-bv7ob hey thank you so much! Appreciate the comment
superheaven and cloakroom riffs🔥
@@joonlee1717 two of the best bands ever. I just saw cloakroom in Pittsburgh this summer. Wish I could play their riffs correctly - unreal band
Excellent
@@shanerose5348 thank you Shane
Sounds great man!
@@serpentiris01 thank you Joe for the kind words!
Incredible sound!
Edit: Also what song was that? Your playing is beautiful btw
@@MassiveCompositions a lot of the riffs I was playing ended up becoming the song strayline. - void (it’s on Spotify, Apple Music, bandcamp etc)
It is entirely okay to use an HM-2/clone at not completely maxed out. Sounded good on its own. Take that, everyone. So did the not klon. You’re gonna make me bust my Behringer out (it doesn’t live on the board)
I also like chorus before dirt just generally.
@@therewasascene preach! As soon as I saw the trauma ray guitar player basically use a HM-2 style clone not all maxed out I was like hold up I gotta try that. That not Klon is so great. I’ve never played a real one but I cannot believe how loud this cheap clone is. Its unity volume at like 20% volume. Insane
Also have been exploring putting chorus in different places. Chorus after delay and chorus seem to be kind of interesting for solo and lead stuff
this is heavenly man ima save up n get these pedals
@@Porridge_bland dude thank you I’m glad you like it
Sounds fantastic. I want to do shoegaze bass and keyboard now.
@@Some_Cat_ that would be sick to hear
Hehe trying to get an order for a bass (Vintage VS4) sorted as we speak. It's been a nightmare but staying hopeful. Then got to get the pedals. I'll see what I can do when the time comes. 😎
Edit: I do have a bass already (Ibanez Mikro) but I damaged the key hole for the truss rod too badly. I'll be keeping it but I'm going to try putting guitar strings on it instead.
@@Some_Cat_ the VS4 looks super cool. Love that look for a bass guitar
get old zoom digital multifx. you can stack delays and made a preset just for crazy stuff.
btw what is that klon brand?
@@Nutamago I will look into the old zoom models. I have a g1x4 zoom model and absolutely love it so I have high hopes. As for the Klon clone I don’t think it is marked and appears to be from temu or wish or something like that
@@Ian-Threaded your best bet would be zoom CDR. but what I have is the g1xon, earlier release.
that klon looks like an original hahaha.
@@Nutamago looking up a CDR now. And yeah the clone looks pretty darn good. I honestly have no idea what a Klon should even sound like (I hear that a electroharmonix soul food is Klon based but I’ve never tried one) all I know is I was extremely impressed by this cheap clone. It has an unbelievable amount of volume on tap and sounds amazing at any gain setting. So clear and pleasant sounding even with the gain maxed
hello. what guitar are you using? thanks
@@AmiGuitar hi thanks for the question - it is a Silvertone bobkat. You also see these under the name harmony
@@Ian-Threaded ok thanks
Some od this reminds me of the guy from kitchens of distinction, sounds great
@@heggy_69 I’m going to look them up. Ashamed to say I am not familiar with that band yet
sounds like Hum bro amazing tone
@@Nick-om8kc huge compliment man wow thank you!
Some really cool riffs and gnarly tones. Love your attitude, keep on yapping my man.
No way this is all standard tuning, is it?
@@elliesarchive7 appreciate all the kind words and love! Will do. And it is in standard I believe yes. I am 99% sure. The only other option would be drop C# but I don’t believe so for this one
The void is so underrated
@@gloryxkid couldn’t agree more. Not a bad sound in it
So which delay pedal would you recommend out of the two? Or any others I should look at?
@@kurtfl0 I think I recommend the prophet if you can find it for $30 used but if it’s only around for around $50 I recommend the falling star delay
@@Ian-Threaded cool. I’m just a bedroom player so don’t need anything fancy/expensive lol. Appreciate it! 🤘
@@kurtfl0 nothing wrong with that. TC electronic is a very reputable brand name but you can absolutely find these used for around $30. Check Facebook marketplace. They are online like guitar center used and reverb etc etc but the shipping cost ends up being half as much as the pedal unless you do a bigger order of a couple pedals all at once from guitar center that would make it make more sense.
If you wanted to go even cheaper than that. Or cannot find a prophet used I can recommend the Kmise analog or digital delay (one is green and the other is brown) both are $17.99 on Amazon prime with free returns if you don’t vibe with it. They just aren’t as “cool” looking as the prophet or falling star. They are also a little more simple
@@Ian-Threaded simple is what I was looking for so went with the kmise. Thanks for the help!
@@kurtfl0 no problem! Let me know if you dig it
What is the guitar?
@@cwmarch21 Silvertone bobkat
Very interested in your thoughts behind pedal chain order. Your setup is backwards from everything I’ve ever seen and read. Is there a method to your madness? 🤘
@@RhoadesGuitars most of the time I like my modulation into dirt into delay into reverb
But for more blown out crazy Shoegaze sounds I sometimes like getting a little crazy and starting off with delay and reverbs first in the chain. It really makes a wall of sound. If the delay is last I find the repeats to be more subtle as you would normally hear.
With the delay and reverb first they get crazy because the delay repeats and reverb swells are getting distorted themselves by the dirt effects.
It is definitely backwards and “not best practice” but I think it can be fun to do and it definitely makes me play differently and come up with different song ideas
@@Ian-Threaded thanks for sharing, now I’ve been inspired to experiment!
@@RhoadesGuitars very cool. Let me know how it goes
I been liking Iset pedals off Amazon, very cheap. Phaser and Flanger are top notch. Flange is better than my Helix. Phoenix Wings tremelo. Caline Time Space. No chorus yet but wanna find another micro pedal one.
@@R3dbudd I will check those out. I have seen the name ISET
where do you buy your used pedals from? reverb?
@@binomial6473 I find reverb to be way too pricy. All these that were used were from guitar center or music go round. I found that if I buy more than one used pedal from guitar center online I only pay one shipping fee even if one is from California and another is from New York etc. I have gotten 3+ before and only paid $18 shipping total. But I try to just buy from my local guitar center and music go round and avoid shipping fees. Facebook marketplace is also a favorite but I hate driving an hour and waiting for someone to meet at a Sheetz etc
@@Ian-Threaded that's a useful tip about guitar center online, i never knew that! marketplace in my experience tends to be the best but like it's so often so inconvenient
@@binomial6473 heck yeah I hope it helps. I find myself putting a hand full of cheap used guitar center pedals in my cart and then just pulling the trigger all together for a very reasonable single shipping fee. Also (for New pedals) gear hero is a great website from Florida. No tax outside of Florida + free shipping and they seem to run promo codes a lot. I just used “pedalgenie” and got 15% off that new eqd hoof. Discount + no tax + free shipping is the way to go for new purchases. Got it cheaper than some used eqd hoof pedals I was seeing
Sounds like you could play some My Vitriol with those sounds
@@_Uh_Oh_ that’s a new name to me let me look them up. Do they put delays and reverbs in the front of their chain too?
@Ian-Threaded oh I don't have a clue sorry, its like an early 2000s alt rock band from England i used to follow, your setup reminded me of them :)
@@_Uh_Oh_ that’s sick though I’ll check them out
@@Ian-Threaded Yeah I totally hear My Vitriol here in your playing too! Amazing band, still play live occasionally. Check out the Finelines album, it’s full of sounds like this.
@@RichWordsMusic that’s awesome for real. Thanks for the kind words
This guy yaps
Guy never stops
@@Ian-Threaded 😂
I spy some trauma ray
@@Vegitaled best band in the world
What kind of guitar is that? Is it a Kappa?
@@theuniverseinstereo3453 that’s a 1966 Silvertone bobkat
proof that you don't bootique pedals to gaze
@@friedtinola5644 so true. There are so many hidden gems out there that just don’t get any credit. I mean that prophet even has top mounted jacks
based
@@Ben_19M thank you Ben! This setup really inspires me to write
TRAUMA RAY
@@sheemy3586 them and Money are unbeatable
the irony of panning up to show you were playing on a marshall while having the cheap pedals and guitar is like the funniest thing ever /pos
The Marshall MG gets a lot of hate for being a “bad” solid state amp but I like it especially for the $100 I paid for it used.
@@Ian-Threaded no shot, i gotta get on that, thanks ❤️
Less room tone. More drums.
@@Hexus13th song being made with these exact pedals and studio drums as we speak
Boring
@@ihatezgoogle6264 I agree. Yaps too much too
Aren’t you a ray of sunshine
Never mind this guy...hes a dope. Nice vid.
@@caddisking thank you for the kind words caddisking