DPS SHOWDOWN! Anemo vs Geo vs Electro Traveler! Who's the STRONGEST?! Genshin Impact

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • In today's DPS Showdown, we compare Anemo Traveler to Geo Traveler and Electro Traveler! Find out WHO is the STRONGEST in Genshin Impact version 2.6!
    My Discord where I you can vote on video ideas: / discord
    0:00 | Intro
    0:19 | Disclaimers, Builds, & More!
    2:54 | Victim #1 - Regisvine (no shenanigans)
    5:00 | Victim #2 - Regisvine (WITH shenanigans)
    7:12 | Victim #3 - Masanori
    10:24 | Victim #4 - Primogeovishap
    13:27 | Victim #5 - Nuke Showcase
    14:16 | Victim #6 - Abyss 12
    20:28 | Summary and Bonus Victim
    #Genshin #GenshinImpact
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  • @IWinToLose
    @IWinToLose  2 года назад +1092

    A couple things to note:
    I fought Masanori in the rain with Anemo Traveler. This way I was able to gain bonus swirl damage. Yes, I literally changed the time constantly to fish for rain.
    There's also at least 1 typo >_>

  • @betterthanyu
    @betterthanyu 2 года назад +1560

    2:41 The disclaimers tho "just because lumine did better than lumine in a specific scenario doesnt mean lumine is better than lumine because lumine will always be equal or greater than lumine"

    • @le0t0rr3z
      @le0t0rr3z 2 года назад +117

      And we need more official art of her xD

    • @blank69690
      @blank69690 2 года назад +23

      Ofc lumine isn't better cuz aether is the best

    • @BattyButtercup
      @BattyButtercup 2 года назад +80

      i wonder how MUCH stronger Lumine turns out when co-op'd with an Aether? playing the twins together SHOULD give some Secret Cheese Buff. especially if they're resonating with each other.

    • @Hikikomoriiiii
      @Hikikomoriiiii 2 года назад +1

      lmao i loved that

    • @laterespond6600
      @laterespond6600 2 года назад +25

      @@blank69690 no.

  • @lithium5425
    @lithium5425 2 года назад +1461

    The traveler's elemental skill is like a really bad version of the archons burst
    ("Black hole", "meteorite dropping", electro stuff ER support long cooldown stuff)

    • @alexanderluna4598
      @alexanderluna4598 2 года назад +55

      Yeah kinda lost that theory on the third example there huh 😂😂😂 “electro stuff”
      The other skills I can see maybe but raidens burst has literally nothing in common with electro travelers e skill besides element. Hell, raidens e skill has more in common with travelers burst since they both cause lightning strikes when you attack an enemy. But the e skill is completely different.

    • @whatever5401
      @whatever5401 2 года назад +12

      Finally someone who thinks the same

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmm5866
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmmm5866 2 года назад +48

      well thats probably because the traveler gets power from the statue of the seven so it makes sense for it to be similar

    • @baileydombroskie3046
      @baileydombroskie3046 2 года назад +15

      Here’s the thing: geo lumine is a much much better sub DPS than Zhongli. Damn near twice as good.

    • @baileydombroskie3046
      @baileydombroskie3046 2 года назад +4

      @@zenith.17 there’s also the fact that when electro lumine and raiden r unavailable to a player, there best batteries for there geo main DPS is pretty well tied between geo lumine and yun Jin. Both provide a solid amount of geo particles with there skills on a relatively short CD.
      But kinda the main point of why I compared them 2 is cuz I’ve seen many ppl build Zhongli as a sub DPS instead of a shielder.

  • @kye2379
    @kye2379 2 года назад +1536

    Ive tried using electro lumine as a physical dps by combining her electro atks along with a cryo unit like rosaria/diona and fischl for extra energy. It can work, but i still think geo traveler is best. And anemo lumine is a good option for vv support if you dont have any other anemo units

    • @mariesvilmy5680
      @mariesvilmy5680 2 года назад +33

      Same here i use electro traveler for physical dps. I use qiqi with sac sword for superconduct. And use yunjin buff for more damage. So my team is Aether qiqi yunjin zhongli(for shield and res shread)

    • @banditdoggo
      @banditdoggo 2 года назад +7

      My electro aether with no buffs or team resonances does like 16k charged atks with aquila favonia 25% physical dmg and 18% atk artifacts and physical goblet. My crit ratio is only 60/140 and could have better cr and cd if i got a better sands

    • @kye2379
      @kye2379 2 года назад +1

      @@banditdoggo nice im glad that ypure happy with the damage youre doing :) i havent leveled my travelers talents at all (on any element for that matter) cause i was just trying to see what kind of team comps i could run. But id definitely try it again with leveled talents

    • @thewackykid
      @thewackykid 2 года назад +5

      i think anemo lumine would be better if built her as full EM...

    • @TheElino
      @TheElino 2 года назад +4

      Geo definitely best

  • @Zedrinbot
    @Zedrinbot 2 года назад +695

    the content drought do to be hittin hard
    plus clearly the strongest traveler is the elemental-less traveler.

    • @theaudiocrat
      @theaudiocrat 2 года назад +24

      No element traveler that scales with physical damage would be pretty awesome

    • @Vizible21
      @Vizible21 2 года назад +48

      Ngl the content drought made these content creators more creative with their content. They're actually better than what they usually put out.

    • @teldarin7557
      @teldarin7557 2 года назад

      based

    • @S1NN13_STVFF
      @S1NN13_STVFF 2 года назад

      True

    • @RVUI
      @RVUI 2 года назад +1

      crux clash 5k atk traveller 💀

  • @AsianGuyStream
    @AsianGuyStream 2 года назад +1023

    GEO TRAVELLER SUPREMACY
    Also hope you get better soon IWTL!!

  • @lunasquib
    @lunasquib 2 года назад +1048

    If Electro Lumine didnt have such a long cooldown she’d be a lot more enjoyable

    • @amberxv4777
      @amberxv4777 2 года назад +12

      You should use her with sacrificial sword

    • @lostblueboy
      @lostblueboy 2 года назад +76

      @@amberxv4777 but sacrificial sword is much better used on someone like xingqui or qiqi or even kazuha and jean and stuff. And also r5 sac sword still has a 16 sec long cooldown which doesn't align with electro traveller. So it's a waste, to put it on her than xingqui but obvs if u wanna, it's a good option

    • @joeltoomer3332
      @joeltoomer3332 2 года назад +32

      @@amberxv4777 she works better with favonius sword

    • @shinyyordle9233
      @shinyyordle9233 2 года назад +9

      @@lostblueboy Me: laughs in two Sacs R5 and don't have Kazuha.
      Also why everyone keeps using Qiqi with Sac? she can't proc it off field, and keeping her on field to reset the E is a waste of time, dmg and healing because most of her healing comes from her talisman, better use an ATK based or even the Prototype if you have it R5 to maximize healing as much as you can (I recommend in order Clam, Millelith or Noblesse full sets)

    • @lostblueboy
      @lostblueboy 2 года назад +16

      @@shinyyordle9233 ....you are aware that even with r5 sac sword......electro traveller does not go good with it since the cooldown doesnt line up. It has 3 seconds of delay between them which is the recipe for a messed up rotation.
      And also people run qiqi with sac for full uptime and just switching in the middle is enough to proc it esp at r5 but even at r1 its good since qiqis cd is so long, but yeah there are better options such as flute or even favonuis or aquilla or any attack weapon.

  • @exoticcats6119
    @exoticcats6119 2 года назад +439

    I know that Geo traveler is strongest, but I like anemo traveler the most so far. I wish we could keep her ult in one spot without needing great placement.

    • @cringemaster1307
      @cringemaster1307 2 года назад +52

      Anemo lumine reminds of playing the game for the first time and her skill is so satisfying. Best lumine

    • @miaki6299
      @miaki6299 2 года назад +26

      If the devs made anemo traveler's burst travel a bit and stopped at a certain distance, it would be so much better. Somehow it would be like venti who needs to back a bit if they want to place the burst perfectly at the center.

    • @QZ-nw1ys
      @QZ-nw1ys 2 года назад +14

      If they just make the burst stops when hitting an enemy and sucks nearby enemies it will be perfect

    • @christopherflores5405
      @christopherflores5405 2 года назад +12

      Imagine if the tornado stayed where you cast it like kazuha's E. It'd be more consistent for sure.

    • @PerceptualAbyss8777
      @PerceptualAbyss8777 Год назад +5

      I agree the anemo one is the most fun and I dont like geo traveler that much and electro is meh

  • @blippy117
    @blippy117 2 года назад +486

    geo mc is so underrated, i use him as a sub dps/battery for noelle and he does so much damage while providing crit rate and energy for her with quick rotations. theyre niche, but they work exceptionally well where they work
    also sick here with covid, hopefully our health recovers soon 💪

    • @tobito0
      @tobito0 2 года назад +3

      Do you think geo mc is better support for noelle/itto than ningguang? idk which one to lvl up for itto team

    • @pmq6645
      @pmq6645 2 года назад +27

      I used to run geo MC as battery for my dps Noelle, but since I got Gorou, he's much better. Gorou generates a bit less energy but his skill is less annoying than the geo balls and he gives bonus def, bonus def for Noelle means bonus damage.

    • @acanthafiore
      @acanthafiore 2 года назад +24

      @@tobito0 I have a preference for geo Traveler because of the crit boost but Ningguang is a much better battery and also offers a geo buff if you pass through her screen. Ningguang is also a stronger sub dps.

    • @teldarin7557
      @teldarin7557 2 года назад +14

      They asked for a comparison of Geo MC and Ningguang for a Noelle or Itto Team. I'd personally say go for Geo Traveler over Ningguang as support. Geo MC with a high refinement favonius sword takes care of your team's energy needs and 4 piece noblesse obliged provides a nice extra buff for the team.
      Ningguang is a little easier as battery and she can act as a solid burst support as well.
      They both are viable, but I'd stick to MC because of the extra crit rate. Unless you have Gorou. He is the best Geo Support, especially for Itto.

    • @tobito0
      @tobito0 2 года назад

      @@Crentist-ii5hb thank you!!

  • @Ph42oN
    @Ph42oN 2 года назад +190

    When i was still playing traveler, i always thought anemo is best. I saw geo might do bigger hits but anemo swirling other elements did more damage at lower levels. I hated using geo traveler so much, enemies always get on top of rocks and then you have to climb to hit them.

    • @ixirion
      @ixirion 2 года назад +36

      Anemo travel destroys mobs until Inazuma.

    • @viatrix8327
      @viatrix8327 2 года назад +16

      same. I also thought anemo lumine is better than geo

    • @iiFallenWish
      @iiFallenWish 2 года назад +7

      Yeah I hate geo for that same reason

    • @user-vr8qd4hk6y
      @user-vr8qd4hk6y Год назад

      LMAO... skill issues

    • @bruh-js7tz
      @bruh-js7tz Год назад +1

      i actually used to like using geo traveler. not that i didn’t like any of the other ones, i just thought it was a strong element, i didn’t need a certain element to kill an enemy, and didn’t mind having to climb the rocks.

  • @leafgreenbeast
    @leafgreenbeast 2 года назад +123

    electro traveler can pair with a cryo unit for superconduct, letting you get some pretty respectable physical dps, rather than just... doing nothing at all different for the "shenanigans" showcase
    a team like ele-traveler/[cryo of choice]/zhongli/yunjin or bennett works pretty great. could potentially sub out zhongli for xinyan (for pyro resonance instead of geo and roughly similar dps increase, but markedly flimsier shield)

    • @Effelon
      @Effelon 2 года назад +7

      Traveler is also somewhat decent with 4p TF and Xingqui for faster E resets which does decent damage

    • @Squiggles.
      @Squiggles. 2 года назад

      Was thinking the same. I wondered why he didn't try that

  • @hurawra9086
    @hurawra9086 2 года назад +541

    Lumine's Tornado should have stuck when she hits non-suckable enemies like how Ayaka's Burst does.
    but that's just a wishful thinking.
    edit. thank you for giving heart to my comment. i wish for your quick recovery!!

    • @asher4964
      @asher4964 2 года назад +5

      She will be budget ayaka

    • @chorki4801
      @chorki4801 2 года назад +102

      But then she'd be... USABLE?!?! Hoyoverse can't have that!

    • @sucklemecockles541
      @sucklemecockles541 2 года назад +9

      @@chorki4801 they would rather have the players spend money on actual functioning anemo characters than Anemo mc

    • @hurawra9086
      @hurawra9086 2 года назад +25

      @@chorki4801 yah, should've been. hahaha. or the tornado should not be moving forward, but rather in a small circle like how pyronado spins.
      but again, just a wishfull thinking. hoyo wont even bother fixing the MC other than being the most powerful dull blade user.

    • @chorki4801
      @chorki4801 2 года назад +20

      @@hurawra9086 ikr, hydro traveler is probably just going to be barbara clone but can't even use thrilling tales.

  • @lunasquib
    @lunasquib 2 года назад +112

    Cant wait for Dendro Lumine with a 30 second skill cooldown 😭🤪

    • @Frey_00
      @Frey_00 2 года назад +16

      Nope. Dendro leaked gameplay kit is so good for reaction comps and aoe damage dealers

    • @TenthOfChaos
      @TenthOfChaos Год назад +1

      @@Frey_00 copium 😭

    • @lumineobsession
      @lumineobsession Год назад +18

      this didnt age well

    • @HelloZzzzZz
      @HelloZzzzZz Год назад +3

      Its only 7-8 sec

    • @lunasquib
      @lunasquib Год назад

      @@HelloZzzzZz this was 4 months ago when I commented this
      I couldn’t kniw 🥲🥲

  • @hebislay
    @hebislay 2 года назад +236

    I remember when I got bored after 1.6 so I just leveled 90 my traveler and may have tripled crowned her Geo skills 😭

    • @Kurumi_6_10th
      @Kurumi_6_10th 2 года назад +17

      wait, you guys still have crowns??

    • @heathcliff3530
      @heathcliff3530 2 года назад +7

      Rip three Crowns

    • @Heaven0707
      @Heaven0707 2 года назад

      @@Kurumi_6_10th i have 4 crown 👑👑

    • @squawkers7536
      @squawkers7536 2 года назад +5

      @@Kurumi_6_10th I have 12 lmao

    • @traincore1955
      @traincore1955 2 года назад +2

      Never level your traveler

  • @brandonguffey5959
    @brandonguffey5959 2 года назад +79

    I feel like DPS electro lumine is meant to be the physical attacker of the bunch. prolly shoulda given her a physical damage cup and a cryo teamate if you're gonna give geo lumine resonance.

    • @manjunath414
      @manjunath414 2 года назад +9

      Not with those sad multipliers

    • @kaikawasumi
      @kaikawasumi 2 года назад

      Yeah it was weird too because he specifically said he wasn't using geo resonance when you can clearly see Zhongli there

    • @cdslice1869
      @cdslice1869 2 года назад +18

      @@kaikawasumi geo resonance only activates if you have a shield and he didn’t have a shield in that showcase

    • @bokicake
      @bokicake 2 года назад +20

      @@kaikawasumi he didn't use geo resonance in the clip where he said he wasn't going to use it tho. you can clearly see there are only three party members there.

    • @DhrithionVocals
      @DhrithionVocals 2 года назад +1

      @@kaikawasumi you can't activate resonance with only 3 party members, you need 4...

  • @kasperandersen547
    @kasperandersen547 2 года назад +84

    Can you make a “fun teams to use” video. A video with fun and different team comps because i know there is a lot of burnt out players and trying some new teams with characters you usally dont use would make the game more exciting

    • @baani4217
      @baani4217 2 года назад

      That's such a good idea, I've actively been searching for videos like that

    • @Indivinity
      @Indivinity 2 года назад

      pretty sure he's already done that

    • @Indivinity
      @Indivinity 2 года назад

      nevermind I was thinking of his Shenhe team combination video

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 2 года назад +7

      Kind of hard to define that, though. Fun varies from person to person, and there's also a matter of what it can accomplish. One person might find an all shorties team fun, but, well, they don't exactly have great synergy together. And keep in mind that IWinToLose likes speed-running, so power is probably a pretty big factor in what he considers fun, as opposed to, say, rolling around in combat with Sayu.
      Anyway, one fun one I've been enjoying is Noelle, Xinyan, Albedo, and Yae Miko. Geo resonance, shielding, BP weapon for Xinyan. Yae's turrets interact with the DoT from Xinyan's burst. And with Albedo and Yae, there's some nice off field damage happening. Not the most effective team, I have, but I do find it fun, despite Xinyan's janky kit (really wish she had a hold E option that would give her elemental skill the burst's DoT).
      Another I've been enjoying recently is Diona, Shenhe, Ningguang, and Albedo. Again, shielding + geo resonance. My Ning rocks the Verity (she can trigger the stacks super easy/fast, thanks to her C2), so she hits pretty hard for a four star. Shenhe is there because mine is C2 (so long duration burst) and her hold E buffs elemental skill and burst DMG. And, of course, she'll add damage to both her own cryo damage and Diona's.

    • @iturnedmypikachuintoararec4846
      @iturnedmypikachuintoararec4846 2 года назад +8

      Fun is subjective so that's impossible to do.

  • @teldarin7557
    @teldarin7557 2 года назад +138

    I actually use Geo Lumine for my Hu Tao double Geo vape team. That's mostly because I don't have Albedo, but I genuinly like having a viably built Traveler in my arsenal.
    She uses an R5 Favonius Sword and Noblesse Obliged and provides a reliable buff because of that. Also the extra crit rate she gives to the team isn't terrible either.

    • @fafka1445
      @fafka1445 2 года назад +18

      try Ningguang with TTDS and 4pc Intructor

    • @naufalr.9521
      @naufalr.9521 2 года назад +1

      @@fafka1445 good idea

    • @teldarin7557
      @teldarin7557 2 года назад +8

      @@fafka1445 I'd have to level up her, her talents and the artifacts for that, since I don't really play catalyst characters. That's a little too much investment for now, right now I'm still farming hard on two artifact sets, that would be a lot of "wasted" resin at the moment.
      My Hu Tao has the baseline 100 EM, would that 120 EM boost be valid enough? Between 100 EM and 220 EM should be a boost of roughly 20% reaction damage am I right?
      Traveler is doing good work for now and my team manages a 36* abyss anyway.
      I'll give it some thought though, thanks fot the suggestion.

    • @panic_noises_intensifies
      @panic_noises_intensifies 2 года назад +9

      Atk bonus from TTDS is not really big for Hu Tao coz she have low base atk. Additional crit rate from geo traveler looks better I think.

    • @walter1824
      @walter1824 2 года назад

      4pc Instructor duration is low+the wearer needs to trigger reaction for the effect.
      And dont forget the low base atk

  • @aquakitty06
    @aquakitty06 2 года назад +41

    For electro lumine shenanigans, you could have had teammate(s) pick up the purple things on the ground to reduce her skill cooldown.

  • @tyro4634
    @tyro4634 2 года назад +109

    An incredible traveler buff or something that would just make trav more fun is if you could use different element travelers in the same team. Considering canon traveler will eventually be able to use all elements simultaneously in canon Genshin lore, I think it's fair enough that we get to use 4 (3 for the time being) in-game.
    I just really like the idea of traveler being able to combo with themself. For instance, Anemo Traveler's burst could probably be easier to use on large enemies when paired with Geo Traveler's skill and burst. I think it'd give people more incentives to try building traveler.
    Edit: I'm thinking one of the ways Hoyoverse can do this is that after we reunite with our twin we can have them in our party as a different or maybe even the same element as our Traveler. It'll definitely be a long time before we get there though.

    • @004chestnut8
      @004chestnut8 2 года назад +6

      thats absolutely broken but i like it

    • @aether3602
      @aether3602 2 года назад +14

      @@004chestnut8
      The archons are basically guaranteed to be broken, so it's probably fair that the main character who saved their nations would be OP too.

    • @markchristophersarmiento2554
      @markchristophersarmiento2554 2 года назад

      @@004chestnut8 how the heck is that broken? What?

    • @004chestnut8
      @004chestnut8 2 года назад +2

      @@markchristophersarmiento2554 i think its self-explanatory why

    • @KazeMemaryu
      @KazeMemaryu 2 года назад

      The depressing version could be that your twin dies, and you inherit his/her power, granting you the ability to choose Skill and Burst independently, but at the cost of no longer having an element of your own, thus limiting party setups to one resonance.
      Also, dual-element Traveler would probably still only be okay. Considering the powercreep even on the overworld, Traveler has problems just keeping up with Inazuma's mobs - being able to basically solo-setup reactions would still result in disappointing numbers due to bad scaling. So, I think it's very possible for Traveler to get such a feature.

  • @coffeeholic8325
    @coffeeholic8325 2 года назад +344

    Fun fact: Lumine deals more damage than Aether with her sword charged attk, don’t remember by how much, but then again it won’t matter that much since you mostly gonna use her E and Q, which deal the same amount of damage as Aether’s, thus making her better in battle since he dashes further away when dodging, still Lumine is the better option due to sheer face expressions. Hail to the pouting queen!

    • @toast7969
      @toast7969 2 года назад +38

      lumine is the best mc for me. I level her 90 and got god artifacts on her with misplitter. 80 crit rate and 180 crit damage. All thats left is to max out her talents.

    • @Shon_-
      @Shon_- 2 года назад +3

      @@toast7969 nice!

    • @nguyenlightduy7020
      @nguyenlightduy7020 2 года назад +40

      I like the Aether dash more
      It help me keep distance with enemies and dodge enemies attack easier
      (Lumie have 12% charge attack dmg higher than Aether but i dont like use traveller charge attack because it costed Stamina make me sometime run out stamina to dodge and it isnt deal much dmg)

    • @unstable7505
      @unstable7505 2 года назад +45

      it is so miniscule it really doesn't change the damage number by much
      also having a farther dash is almost always more useful, including combat
      faster walking speed is also just better cause you won't be in combat with traveler much anyway
      also aether is hot and we need more husbandos

    • @amberxv4777
      @amberxv4777 2 года назад +14

      @@unstable7505 I agree with your last statement and last statement only

  • @tyshen0329
    @tyshen0329 2 года назад +18

    Electro traveler's Q, which comes with delayed electro application perfect to act as reaction triggers, actually makes EM build great on her. I feel like the dev purposedly butchered the multipliers so we can look into electro reaction as main source of dmg.

  • @soccerguy7986
    @soccerguy7986 2 года назад +25

    10:27 is why geo traveler wins no question

    • @hanabi.1
      @hanabi.1 2 года назад +1

      man knows the priority

  • @oyshikaadi9631
    @oyshikaadi9631 2 года назад +30

    Pretty sure you can shorten Electro Lumine's E skill cooldown by switching her out and then have other characters pick up the amulets.
    That said, wouldn't an EM reaction based Electro Lumine technically deal better damage?

    • @blahblahsuperanon
      @blahblahsuperanon 2 года назад +10

      I thought we’d see superconduct physical electro traveler here. Or overloaded or electro-charged. Not sure why he didn’t use a cryo support

    • @TheCatWhoAteTheCanary
      @TheCatWhoAteTheCanary 2 года назад +2

      ​@@blahblahsuperanon maybe he didn't want to use cryo against cryo Regisvine BUT its not like its immune to cryo

  • @Zenflower54
    @Zenflower54 2 года назад +22

    You can reduce electro lumine's cd with anemo resonance in the team! That might help her enough to make a difference.

    • @pepegawarfare2843
      @pepegawarfare2843 2 года назад +1

      5% is too low

    • @SpacificNocean
      @SpacificNocean Год назад

      ​@@pepegawarfare2843 it is viable, but you have to have the right team comp. C2 Chongyun not only helps reduce it further, but also imbues your sword with cryo while you are waiting for your CDs

  • @ayakoha
    @ayakoha 2 года назад +19

    geo traveller is best traveller. I guess they put more thought into her kit since there weren't a lot of geo characters at that time so I hope they will make an ok dendro traveller when it gets released. Anemo traveller would be a decent alternative to other anemo if her burst could stay in place. I don't know what to say about electro traveller, she's a Raiden without the damage and without the ability to battery herself, long cooldown, high cost burst etc., there's just no reason to use her imo At least geo can open to resonance, battery and provide crit rate and anemo can use the vv set and add some damage.

  • @rona0427
    @rona0427 2 года назад +9

    now THIS is the character showdown we’ve been waiting for!

  • @justwobbie
    @justwobbie 2 года назад

    love your content!! this was really interesting to see :)

  • @alannguyen5050
    @alannguyen5050 2 года назад

    You did a great job on the video, I enjoyed the content!

  • @louisschuster3666
    @louisschuster3666 2 года назад +4

    you know that when Iwintolose starts to make dps showdown about the traveler the content is DRY

  • @FrezASH5
    @FrezASH5 2 года назад +16

    I myself still use Anemo MC for story quests and exploration because of anemo resonance and grouping plus a little healing from their passive. Yes Geo MC has bigger dps but i don't like the rock they put mostly interuppting and heck Electro MC subjectively has a long skill cd for one hit skill.
    And yes I do think Anemo is the og Traveler than any other element

    • @softjytsu
      @softjytsu 2 года назад +1

      and lore wise, we see traveler has more of a connection with Mondstadt in general

  • @p1ngu_
    @p1ngu_ 2 года назад

    ayo i wasn't expecting this. nice content!!

  • @najminmaliki9472
    @najminmaliki9472 2 года назад

    thank u for making this vid. wanted to build my traveller so i need this!

  • @b.r.52
    @b.r.52 2 года назад +7

    Due to the update delay, I've revisited my Lumine and appreciate her Geo version more.

  • @gravewalker2175
    @gravewalker2175 2 года назад +5

    I like how in the disclaimer, even IWinToLose agrees that Lumine needs more official art, it's also funny because of how fast he said everything. Hope you get better soon as well!

  • @yorookieh1196
    @yorookieh1196 2 года назад

    i feel 4 u i cant imagine how brutal this mustve been to put together...that said it was prolly one of the funniest things ive seen in a while so ty...oh n feel better 😁

  • @fleks4187
    @fleks4187 2 года назад +1

    the best part of this video has to be the disclaimer, especially that lumine(s) comparisons part. Really caught me there

  • @HectorCotto97
    @HectorCotto97 2 года назад +33

    For the life of me I don't understand why they made the Traveler so weak no matter the element. I don't necessarily want them to be stronger than the other characters but I at least want to be able to use the Traveler without feeling like I'm going through hoops to do it. My favorite element for the Traveler had always been Anemo and when Inazuma came out I was looking forward to using electro which used to be my favorite element but when I finally saw the gameplay for the electro Traveler I was disappointed.
    Honestly if every new element is just gonna be a weak gimmick with not a lot of damage output then I don't see the point of looking forward to anything new for the Traveler, I also wish they didn't force you to have to level up your normal attacks between elements, there are at least 7 elements and if I'm gonna have to level the normal attack for each one whenever a new one comes out I'm gonna be upset to say the least.

    • @KazeMemaryu
      @KazeMemaryu 2 года назад +4

      Free character, obviously. It's the same with Amber, Kaeya, and Lisa. They want you to get into the gacha, not clear everything comfortably with the default cast. That's also why Noelle is the beginner's promo character: during early-to-midgame, her shield+heal makes her incredibly useful, and she's rather easy to build. But you still need to pull to get her, so the bait is cast.

    • @softjytsu
      @softjytsu 2 года назад

      they don't force you tho? it's like saying "i have to level up bennett and miko's NA" you can just farm for the E and Q??

    • @HectorCotto97
      @HectorCotto97 2 года назад

      @@softjytsu That's not my point though, what I mean is that they shouldn't have made the normal damage between different elements different since it just mean more grinding for the same thing. Beside I prefer to get more mileage out of my characters rather than just using them as a gimmick. An example of what I mean is: Barbara is mainly a healer but if setup right she can become a fairly good dps too. While it all just comes down to player preference I still stand by what I said, if you don't care about normal attack damage then yeah you can ignore it.

    • @zadokutah2315
      @zadokutah2315 2 года назад +2

      In defense of Geo Traveller, They actually somewhat decent Geo Sub DPS and a good CC.
      Sure they are nowhere near Albedo, but they can still hit hard.
      My Geo traveller can do 27k Skill, 11k Per tick Burst (no buff) and up to
      57k Skill, and 27k per Tick Burst with only Bennett and Geo Pyro Resonance.
      Their Burst can actually help to group enemies and especially useful for Maguu Kenkii.
      Geo only weakness is enemy can get stand on top of the Rock. But then again, it can easily avoided by properly positioning it, which wouldn't even take a sec.

    • @brendathevehicon
      @brendathevehicon 2 года назад +1

      Since in the story the traveller keeps getting stronger, it may sync up with the progression of the story. Like later traveller elements may be stronger. I mean I see that electro was a step down from Geo, but we only have 3 elements for traveller atm and there will be like 7 so. Also, I've heard tell of a "light" element that the traveller may be able to harness, which while very far away could be very sick

  • @blubblub3786
    @blubblub3786 2 года назад +6

    6:55 why not superconduct? Against the cryo flower you can set it up without another character and it's kinda part of her kit

  • @lolololten
    @lolololten 2 года назад

    Get well soon!! And thanks for the great video~

  • @Lei_0016
    @Lei_0016 2 года назад

    Bro you are hilarious! Have fun on your vacation and get well soon!

  • @lolosh99
    @lolosh99 2 года назад +7

    Also geo traveler’s gem colors fits their cloths better therefore it’s objectively superior.

  • @Rub3z
    @Rub3z 2 года назад +5

    Have you tried using Anemo Lumine with an Instructor's Set, then using other characters who can apply elemental dmg off-field (Fischl, a Cryo field burst character, Xiangling, Mona etc.), and then using her elemental skill to swirl all of them together?
    I call it Lumine's 5-Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique. I did it a long time ago when I was very low level to kill the regisvines faster. I wonder what it could do with higher level characters and more investment...

    • @Nagataeatscorn
      @Nagataeatscorn 2 года назад +1

      I wanna see that as well. I think it would be better with VV set though.

  • @natalieadon1015
    @natalieadon1015 2 года назад

    Feel better soon and enjoy your break!

  • @cristianpaz2976
    @cristianpaz2976 2 года назад

    Excelente vídeo amigo , me gusto mucho.

  • @greenled3939
    @greenled3939 2 года назад +23

    Mistsplitter is actually better for traveler than Jade cutter, especially anemo and geo traveler since the last attack of their normal attacks do geo/anemo damage, allowing by you to fully use the mistsplitter passive on anemo and geo mc.

    • @snowlynx1585
      @snowlynx1585 2 года назад +2

      It's usually not worth it to do the full auto combo just for the mistsplitter passive

    • @pepegawarfare2843
      @pepegawarfare2843 2 года назад

      thats exactly why he used jade cutter i think

  • @robertbhattarai9434
    @robertbhattarai9434 2 года назад +3

    Teacher: whats the impossible thing?
    Me: getting heart from IwintoLose Gaming

  • @lucynsuns
    @lucynsuns 2 года назад

    OHH WHAHAH I was ab to say u sounded stuffed/sick :0 Glad ur doing better

  • @MeraLee82
    @MeraLee82 2 года назад +2

    Yes to more Lumine official art! And I hope you feel better soon!

  • @nicolacanella3969
    @nicolacanella3969 2 года назад +5

    In the closing statements, when you said "in terms of raw dps" I was expecting "we have no raw dps" to end the phrase

  • @francisanthonyh_
    @francisanthonyh_ 2 года назад +3

    I use electro traveler in an overload comp with yoimiya. Build is triple EM with as much ER I can get from the weapon and artifact substats. It does respectable damage, especially when pyro is swirled by an anemo unit with viridescent venerer beforehand. The ER utility also helps traveler and yoimiya (w/ shimenawa) get their bursts back faster. Definitely not the strongest, but I do have fun playing with it.

  • @ericbembenek6092
    @ericbembenek6092 2 года назад

    Good video, feel better soon

  • @balloonwithglasses
    @balloonwithglasses 2 года назад

    hope u get better mate !! very fun videos

  • @dirkstrickland135
    @dirkstrickland135 2 года назад +28

    Favonius Sword Geo traveler definitely worths the investment. That’s the one I use to progress through story quests.

    • @J.sh_CDN
      @J.sh_CDN 2 года назад

      I often went sacrificial sword on all of them. Worked really well, especially for electro

  • @lynell2B375
    @lynell2B375 2 года назад +3

    2:14
    when you said that this is a damage testing, and not support capabilities testing, I think me(and probably almost everyone)can guess geo variant is gonna win most of the time. It's a bit predictable since she has the most dps-ness

  • @rooooollll
    @rooooollll 2 года назад

    Thank you IWTL. Hope you get well soon. Please make alvedo vs kazuha vs electro traveler 😁

  • @Kasraken
    @Kasraken 2 года назад

    No problem, take a break and get well, I hope you have a nice vacation!

  • @marvertjaysonneyra457
    @marvertjaysonneyra457 2 года назад +8

    Electro traveler deserved more😕,
    Shouldve used atleast superconduct comp, or overload comp

    • @blahblahsuperanon
      @blahblahsuperanon 2 года назад +7

      Yeah this is the first video of his that I’m not a fan of. You can’t say “shenanigans to make them stronger” and then not even do superconduct or overloaded reactions

    • @EruditoGaming
      @EruditoGaming 2 года назад

      Exactly cause I've done 15-20k overloads with electro travelers normal attack while using her burst.

  • @altogrey9712
    @altogrey9712 2 года назад +5

    Its sadly true, how they intentionally made the traveler a bad character, considering how each of their other 5 star counterparts fix their problems, like anemo travelers burst should be like Ayaka's burst, it get stuck on enemies, or big enemies, electro traveler is attempting to be like Raiden Shogun, geo traveler is a really great mode, and they do offer great utility with them being a p good battery, and a small bump in crit rate while in their burst, but the geo constructs are just so annoying, really wish they dont make the other traveler modes as terrible, but thats wishful thinking

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 2 года назад

      Free characters don't bring Hoyoverse money. That's why they made Traveler's kit bad compared to even 4 star character despite the Traveler being 5 star character themselves.

    • @icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
      @icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 2 года назад

      Maybe it’s cause I’m use to the rocks but I don’t really have trouble with them

  • @KazeSenseii
    @KazeSenseii 2 года назад

    YESS!!! THANK YOU!!

  • @renreia8133
    @renreia8133 2 года назад +1

    Get well soon, IWTL :)
    Thank you for making our day better!! Please get enough rest and don't stress much. Most of us will still be here!!

  • @TenthOfChaos
    @TenthOfChaos 2 года назад +12

    I don’t know if using overloaded counts for EMC but that would definitely be the better option for her/him

  • @flamingknight11
    @flamingknight11 2 года назад +8

    Its ok. With the release of the dendro element soon. Lumine would probably be the best if not at least top 3 dendro character for a while. (Until she gets powercrept)

    • @Nowaylarry
      @Nowaylarry 2 года назад

      Considering we will probably only have Traveler and one other dendro character for 3.0, they will at least be 2nd best for a patch.

  • @schwichan
    @schwichan 2 года назад

    Hope you get well soon IWTLG!

  • @angelwearwolf1573
    @angelwearwolf1573 2 года назад

    I've also been waiting for this video but also questioning why now there's about four more regions is there going to be a part 2? All jokes aside this was a great video

  • @iSkaeith
    @iSkaeith 2 года назад +8

    "Doesn't mean that Lumine is better than Lumine, because Lumine will always be equal to or not greater than Lumine"
    I got a chuckle out of this.

  • @CityDestroyer
    @CityDestroyer Год назад +6

    Can’t wait for dendro traveler to mop the floor😉

  • @drantino
    @drantino 2 года назад +2

    ive always found the travelers as really good supports, like electro trav with 200 ER and fav sword can battery xiao from 0 energy to max from trav E>pick up>double xiao E. and yes i do ignore the burst in this case.
    anemo wise, if you know the spawn patterns, its a decent group tool. but if you have venti and/or sucrose its still not even a contest

  • @Fordrake21
    @Fordrake21 2 года назад +1

    Nice video, as a traveler main i loved it. I personnaly play my traveler with, Mona Benett and Zhongli. And woth some very decent artifacta giving him some nice 78% crit rate and 205% crit damage and 2680 attack power from a 2 petra, 2 gladiator build. My travaler sends some insane nukes. Now after watching your video, i got some new ideas! Very good videos! Thank You

  • @adrianmeneses5309
    @adrianmeneses5309 2 года назад +4

    You know Genshin is out of content when whales compare the first free character we get lol

  • @electrafying
    @electrafying 2 года назад +7

    I sometime like to use Geo Aether in a Mono-Geo Comp with Itto Gorou and Zhongli (since I don’t have Albedo sadly) and oh my gosh, those rocks pack a punch and really resonate easily with Zhongli’s pillar. The other two are easily outclassed by my reasonably well built Sucrose and Fischl, but it is fun to try them out from time to time. :)

  • @mahadevm8533
    @mahadevm8533 2 года назад

    Hope you’re doing well! Take some rest

  • @JoshuaLye
    @JoshuaLye 2 года назад +1

    i would like to once again thank you for all the puns in the video as they really do make me laugh no matter how lame XDD
    oh and get well soon!!

  • @boredperson1011
    @boredperson1011 2 года назад +8

    I don’t think traveler is that bad to be honest but the problem with anemo is that u need zhongli to do alot of dmg and geo traveler is just good in dps and basically a all rounder but electro traveler has a extremely long cd

  • @cyrosgold7
    @cyrosgold7 2 года назад +37

    You didn't use the strongest traveler. Cryo Traveler...which is just Anemo traveler in the cryo set with Chungyun, Shenhe, and Ideally Kazuha for VV. Fun fact for those who don't know, regardless of other elements in play, Anemo traveler always absorbs cryo first, all other anemo characters prioritize pyro.

    • @mitsuhaha
      @mitsuhaha 2 года назад +22

      Are you blind my guy, go to the start of the video

    • @kenrize1400
      @kenrize1400 2 года назад +12

      Its literally on the start of the vid

    • @cyrosgold7
      @cyrosgold7 2 года назад

      Yes I saw him using it, but it was only as something happening in the background.

  • @Kurovespertine
    @Kurovespertine 2 года назад

    Lol I've legit been waiting for this exact video

  • @meraketh
    @meraketh 2 года назад +1

    In the regisvine with shenanigans, you might be able to bring a cryo applicator with your shockingly purple Lumine for superconduct for the normal and charge attacks. It might shave off a few seconds.

  • @v.infinity269
    @v.infinity269 Год назад +3

    Well now dendro traveler is out and is better then them all

  • @yukinishi9872
    @yukinishi9872 2 года назад +4

    This is a 5 star character too, let's hope that they fix the traveller before full completion of the game to match other 5 stars especially considering the twins seem canonically very powerful

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 2 года назад +1

      They won't. She might be a five star, but she'll always be balanced toward the power level of a four star, and typically on the weaker side of four stars. She's the unit there to make sure people always have access to the needed element for puzzles in that element's domain. The reason why is simple: she's free, and Mihoyo wants you to spend money.

    • @anyaaa2801
      @anyaaa2801 2 года назад

      @@Axterix13 yes exactly. I roll my eyes whenever players are yelling mihoyo needs to "buff" free characters like aloy, traveler and the rest of the cast. They're not stupid and not generous. They're never going to give smth op for free. They want players to spend moneyyyy.

  • @prasoontripathi4179
    @prasoontripathi4179 2 года назад

    get well soon IWTL and thank you for the content and i preffer anemo lumie as geo lumine is tricky to play

  • @RejectedInch
    @RejectedInch 2 года назад

    Get better soon! And thank you for the always top notch dad jokes. :D

  • @junkotamiya
    @junkotamiya 2 года назад +6

    Ummm..... isn't Geo Traveler getting an unfair advantage because she is benefiting from Geo Resonance with Zhongli also being on the team? Anemo and Electro Traveler do not get Geo Resonance's 15% DMG increase nor the 20% Geo RES debuff to enemies.

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 2 года назад +1

      Not unfair because having that elemental resonance is part of their elemental kit and is advantage of having that particular element.

    • @thattimeigotreincarnatedas
      @thattimeigotreincarnatedas 2 года назад +1

      Thats the power of geo when you have daddy and the family

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 2 года назад +2

      It is a bit unfair, yes, particularly for the electro one. If you are using Geo Traveler as damage, you'll pretty much always run geo resonance, as he says. So figuring that in makes sense (and this why the geo traveler did fine against the geo boss). But the unfairness of it is that, if you are using Electro Traveler as a main DPS, you're probably always running either a cryo (for super-conduct) or anemo (for VV debuff), the same way a geo traveler will always have another geo along.

  • @mychemicaldisasterxd
    @mychemicaldisasterxd Год назад +3

    this need to be remade, with faruzan and dendro mc

    • @Ent1610
      @Ent1610 Год назад

      Yes please. Also Electro trav can benefit from aggravate now

  • @fbis1informant.606
    @fbis1informant.606 2 года назад

    Wow for once the disclaimer actually was my favourite part of the video. It caught me of guard

  • @ame5851
    @ame5851 2 года назад +1

    I hope you take a rest if you really need, I don't mind waiting a little longer for a video, I hope you get well soon.

  • @acanthafiore
    @acanthafiore 2 года назад +9

    I feel Electro Traveler is better off as a physical dps rather than electro.

  • @shadowstorm657
    @shadowstorm657 2 года назад +6

    So you did not hold the skill for the anemo at the start you instead quick cast it. That is one of the biggest reasons why the time was so long. On another note if you have the sacrificial sword anemo traveler will certainly be faster than all of the others.

    • @ryandugan9176
      @ryandugan9176 2 года назад

      Pressing anemo traveler's skill is more dps efficient. You're talking about a loss of some 45% scaling ticks of swirl for being able to cast a slightly lower damage version 3x as often.

    • @shadowstorm657
      @shadowstorm657 2 года назад

      @@ryandugan9176 ​ @Ryan Dugan Okay. I can prove you wrong to some degree with one fight in paticular. The Masanori fight is a clear example of how holding the skill would have changed how it went. If you watch at 7:30 - 7:45 when they quick cast their skill there, you can see the damage difference. Looking at the end of the fight too, you can see that if they would have held the quick cast earlier, he would have died at least a few seconds earlier.
      To that effect, if he had the sacrafical sword equip at all every fight would have gone differently with Aenmo traveler. The biggest reason why Geo traveler was so much faster in virtually every test is because GEO res was used in nearly all cases, with Zhonglis pillar to add damage with constructs. For a free player, this is a terrible DPS showcase.

  • @miigs3214
    @miigs3214 2 года назад +2

    So for electo traveller if you pick up the marks with another character it reduces the cooldown for the elemental skill, so you could have casted the skill swap and pick up the marks, then swap back to have the skill sooner

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 2 года назад

      Problem is using her skill doesn't generate energy. And picking up the orbs only provides energy for the character picking them up. So if you don't pick up the orbs with Lumine, you hamper her ability to use her burst. One of the worst parts of her design, and part of why he says that she needs a battery to battery.

  • @RTFL_
    @RTFL_ 2 года назад

    the music at 3:25 is titled "Fleeting Colors in Flight" from the genshin 2.4 event. This track is not found in game

  • @mistflower5945
    @mistflower5945 2 года назад +6

    One redeeming thing for Anemo MC is that they prioritize cryo swirls, unlike the other anemos who prioritize pyro. This can be pretty useful for shield shredding like in 12-2-2, but ig that's kinda it.
    I was so excited to use Electro MC, but was severely disappointed when I realized a decently built 80/90 MC was outperformed by a randomly built level 20 C1 Fischl. The energy regen, offield damage, support ability. Literally every part of it was done better by Fischl, and I know for a fact my build for her was literally just atk and a passable crit ratio.

  • @drekhunter
    @drekhunter 2 года назад +3

    Before I finish the video I'll bet on geo.
    Edit: kind of was waiting for a surprise but yeah no contest at all.

  • @J.sh_CDN
    @J.sh_CDN 2 года назад

    Id like to see Traveler paired alongside their Archons.
    Ventis burst into traveler burst appears to work well for smaller characters as shown by your video.
    Zhongli pillars and Geo Traveler works amazing.
    Id be curious to see if Shogum and Electro traveler actually paired well together

  • @dubiouslobo9190
    @dubiouslobo9190 2 года назад +2

    My Geo traveler hits pretty good for not that high investment. With Mistsplitter his crits on his skill and burst are around 15-19k and 25-30k respectively. Being a Geo battery for my Itto is also a huge plus

  • @Akiduy
    @Akiduy 2 года назад +3

    "Lumine's balls" 😳😳😳

  • @renreia8133
    @renreia8133 2 года назад +7

    Traveller mains, assemble

  • @Fineartguy
    @Fineartguy 2 года назад

    I hope you enjoy your vacation!

  • @hakugei-_-5800
    @hakugei-_-5800 2 года назад

    Exactly what I needed

  • @marios.2975
    @marios.2975 2 года назад +4

    Unfortunately MC at C6 is a mere shadow of a 5* character. Many 4* C0 are better than him in many cases. MiHoyo wasted so much potential on him, maybe one day the Pyro or Cryo MC will be a great unit to play. But I highly doubt that.

    • @J.sh_CDN
      @J.sh_CDN 2 года назад

      I imagine cryo and pyro to be the last 2 elements released, which, accounting for power creep, might actually make Traveler more powerful then a lot of earlier characters? Maybe

    • @asoret
      @asoret 2 года назад

      imagine hydro mc healing

  • @thecommenter578
    @thecommenter578 2 года назад +5

    So at the beginning programmers didn't knew how strong later characters would be, once they released new characters she stayed behind. (Similar to Diluc nowadays) they kinda fixed it in her Geo form, now it feels like a 5 star and for her electro form they just nerfed just because

    • @ixirion
      @ixirion 2 года назад +1

      While I like MC it still feels like 4 star. Almost all c6 5 star chars are game changing while at c6 MC just works.

    • @royal_pyth3n811
      @royal_pyth3n811 2 года назад +2

      @@ixirion well that's always gonna be the case as the mc is a free c6

    • @Aliens1337
      @Aliens1337 2 года назад

      This is just bad take.
      Xingling, Xingqiu, Bennett have been OP since 1.0 and is still OP now. The latest character Atato is a sidegrade to Childe, who’s one of the first characters added to the game. Ganyu, Hu Tao, Zhongli, Venti were all added over a year ago and are still S tier. People keep believing in the myth that new characters powercreep old characters lol.

    • @ixirion
      @ixirion 2 года назад +1

      @@Aliens1337 In fact there is powercreep. Fortunately its slow. exampes - Diluc, Hutao, Venti - Kazuha, Xinqui porbably Yellan, Razor - Eula, Bennet is beggining to be slightly nerfed by Def chars and supports like Shenhe, Fichsl - Rayden and even Yae, Noelle - Itto etc.

  • @ryryisthe1
    @ryryisthe1 2 года назад

    I completely agree with what you said in the disclaimer!
    WE NEED MORE OFFICIAL LUMINE ART!!!

  • @GeneralChrisGaming
    @GeneralChrisGaming 2 года назад +2

    Damn. It took a lack of content for IWin to make a lumine video. Feels bad being a geo lumine main🤣